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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: evo1986 on 21 January 2016, 15:21
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Golf GTI Clubsport Edition details not finalised
21 January 2016
Hot hatch model information expected in late Q1 2016
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The Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 is going to be sold in the UK but pricing, specification and open for order date are still to be determined.
We expect to have more details before the end of Q1.
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
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I feel your pain we have 2 deposit's for the Golf R400 and 2 for the Edition 40...........but no details to base the order on.
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That's a bit of a let down to be honest.
Dave
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Golf GTI Clubsport Edition details not finalised
21 January 2016
Hot hatch model information expected in late Q1 2016
VW0094-16
The Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 is going to be sold in the UK but pricing, specification and open for order date are still to be determined.
We expect to have more details before the end of Q1.
Who is the source for this? Its not that I don't believe you but last week this forum said the 14/15th Jan, earlier today it was the 1st Feb and last week my dealer said he had heard nothing and his owner is on the VW UK board.
I really hope this is not the case as that now looks like a June car at the very earliest :sad:
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
Whoa easy tiger its not too bad, just a possible delay for a short while.
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Who is the source for this? Its not that I don't believe you but last week this forum said the 14/15th Jan, earlier today it was the 1st Feb and last week my dealer said he had heard nothing and his owner is on the VW UK board.
I really hope this is not the case as that now looks like a June car at the very earliest :sad:
evo1986 (Lee) is a dealer who is also a forum sponsor. If you look at his signature you'll see whereabouts.
He doesn't post that often but when he does post it is usually pertinent things about VW and in particular Golfs :laugh:
He'll be taking it straight from a VW bulletin.
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Apologies, my anger made me type too quick before seeing his signature
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Just mimics my experience with VW so far over the clubsport.
Emailed two local dealers at the beginning of the year, have not had a single reply from Northampton VW - surely someone there must at that branch dealing with this!
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
Imo the R400 is never going to happen. VW have more to worry about with their diesel cars and winning back consumer confidence.
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Just some thoughts..
The standard 18's seem to be making German deliveries the latest, back to week 25 or so. Maybe this has an influence for us.
Price rise rumoured in Germany in March, anyone know something on this for UK?
And with later order opening, meaning the cut off for any loyalty discount might be stretched.
Dave
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I give up. Lunatics asylum springs to mind.
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VW are just keeping buyers keen, when they are finally announced there will be some hype about possibly limiting numbers and buyers will be so grateful to get one and probably not even be concerned about discount!
As much as I would like to, it's not really a car I understand in the expected specification at this price point?
There is tough competition in this sector now, including other Vag offerings.
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
Imo the R400 is never going to happen. VW have more to worry about with their diesel cars and winning back consumer confidence.
They can't even get their builder page to work right. Xenon so and keyless are just two things on their site that you can spec on a GTD but they are both standard. For the Tiguan R line edition it says that it comes with both RNS315 and Discover navigation.
I'm sure the people that are dealing with the fallout from the diesel scandal are not operating their website so I don't see the need for such stupid mistakes.
What was their website like before the scandal, was it the same mess as it is now?
As for the car being delayed I'm not too bothered with because my wife doesn't want the car before the new plate change because her favourite number is 66
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They can't even get their builder page to work right. Xenon so and keyless are just two things on their site that you can spec on a GTD but they are both standard.
Really? I'm just off their site speccing a GTD for a relative and never seen that.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure/extras/1523/1527
That would really annoy me as I've spent the last few months telling them how this, that and the next thing are all standard on the GTD :shocked:
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Delay is a shame as it was going to be used as the PGTI Saftey car.
Hopefully will be delivered for 2nd half of the season.
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
Andy, totally agree mate. Mind you BMW are doing similar with M2 so I don't think that VW are on their own with the desire to mess customers around!
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
Andy, totally agree mate. Mind you BMW are doing similar with M2 so I don't think that VW are on their own with the desire to mess customers around!
First week in March I am going to make the decision on ordering a M2 after i have seen it in the flesh, I am not worried if i have to wait 12 months for one in fairness, it is so well specced standard Audi should take note, only decision is white with some livery or blue
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They can't even get their builder page to work right. Xenon so and keyless are just two things on their site that you can spec on a GTD but they are both standard.
Really? I'm just off their site speccing a GTD for a relative and never seen that.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure/extras/1523/1527
That would really annoy me as I've spent the last few months telling them how this, that and the next thing are all standard on the GTD :shocked:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-estate-vii/configure/extras/2135/2136
Look at this link. I will post screenshots as soon as I find out how to from my iCrap device.
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VW need to short there sh!t out, the dirty derv debacle is effecting petrol sales as with R residuals impacting on everything and no R400 or Cluobsport at the moment people are losing interest, these are halo models, niche maybe but what a lot of owners want
I can see realistically be the end of the year i will not have a VW and will try something else for a few years
I'd go blue mate, its suggested its similar to Atlantis Blue which I'm driving an M4 in at the moment. Knowing you it wont stay std for long so i'll look forward to seeing it! Neil
Andy, totally agree mate. Mind you BMW are doing similar with M2 so I don't think that VW are on their own with the desire to mess customers around!
First week in March I am going to make the decision on ordering a M2 after i have seen it in the flesh, I am not worried if i have to wait 12 months for one in fairness, it is so well specced standard Audi should take note, only decision is white with some livery or blue
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They can't even get their builder page to work right. Xenon so and keyless are just two things on their site that you can spec on a GTD but they are both standard.
Really? I'm just off their site speccing a GTD for a relative and never seen that.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure/extras/1523/1527
That would really annoy me as I've spent the last few months telling them how this, that and the next thing are all standard on the GTD :shocked:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-estate-vii/configure/extras/2135/2136
Look at this link. I will post screenshots as soon as I find out how to from my iCrap device.
That's for the estate though. Maybe it has different standard features.
keyless isn't an option on that link and if you type in Xenon it shows what Xenon is standard with what looks like a different Xenon as an option.
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They can't even get their builder page to work right. Xenon so and keyless are just two things on their site that you can spec on a GTD but they are both standard.
Really? I'm just off their site speccing a GTD for a relative and never seen that.
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure/extras/1523/1527
That would really annoy me as I've spent the last few months telling them how this, that and the next thing are all standard on the GTD :shocked:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-estate-vii/configure/extras/2135/2136
Look at this link. I will post screenshots as soon as I find out how to from my iCrap device.
That's for the estate though. Maybe it has different standard features.
keyless isn't an option on that link and if you type in Xenon it shows what Xenon is standard with what looks like a different Xenon as an option.
The estate come with keyless and active bending xenons as standard. The only thing you can't get on the estate is the sound and sport pack, active high beam and 19" wheels. It has all the same standard spec of the 5 door plus it gets tinted glass as standard.
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Look at this for the Tiguan R line. Seemingly you get two satnavs.
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Was a bit p'd off with a probable July delivery (working one end March + 12 weeks) so I had a look at the M135i as an alternative as there are great discounts to be had.
1 thing..its fast! But IMHO thats all it is, not special at all, interior is bland, driving position is awful (pedals too close) I had a sore hip after 30min test drive, knew about the looks but thought in the flesh they might improve.
Happy to wait!
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Was a bit p'd off with a probable July delivery (working one end March + 12 weeks) so I had a look at the M135i as an alternative as there are great discounts to be had.
1 thing..its fast! But IMHO thats all it is, not special at all, interior is bland, driving position is awful (pedals too close) I had a sore hip after 30min test drive, knew about the looks but thought in the flesh they might improve.
Happy to wait!
The BMW has a very configurable driving position and its natural position is much sportier than the Golf's. From your comments it's clear you didn't manage to get it set up properly which isn't surprising as there is more to it than on the golf.
The BMW is a much higher quality cabin so I don't know about 'bland'.
The BMW does have a cramped footwell, close pedals and an offset clutch pedal which all take some getting used too.
The cost of ownership on a BMW at £1000 deposit and £299 a month on a base spec 3 door car with 8k miles per annum does show how overpriced the Golf is though.
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I was surprised how bland and non sporting the 135i interior is, it could have well been a 116i.
Personally I found the GTi a much better place to sit and a step up from the base Golf...each to their own.
The lack of Lsd in a 300bhp rwd car seems a serious and unforgivable omission to me.
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Not sure about the higher quality cabin materials either, some materials in the 1 series look and feel very cheap and touches like flat bottomed steering wheel and stainless pedals make the performance Golf's stand out against the rest of the range. The 135i doesn't look special inside at all, less than said about external looks the better. :whistle:
3 series interior looks and feels a lot better than that of the 1 series.
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Looks like the Clubsport could be worth the wait.
http://youtu.be/0Wfr6Ge_XHE
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That's the same video I posted to the forum on 27th November!
There doesn't seem to be anything new for now. What we really need is a proper road test.
GTi CS vs Golf R vs Focus RS vs AMG45 vs RS3 ..... or any combination of the above on UK roads, hopefully it won't be too far away?
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Looks like the Clubsport could be worth the wait.
http://youtu.be/0Wfr6Ge_XHE
nice to see they used a ford man to set it up :grin:
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That's the same video I posted to the forum on 27th November!
There doesn't seem to be anything new for now. What we really need is a proper road test.
GTi CS vs Golf R vs Focus RS vs AMG45 vs RS3 ..... or any combination of the above on UK roads, hopefully it won't be too far away?
Sorry, I didn't see that anyone else had posted it.
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It was some time ago, I was more on making the point that nothing new has come up about the cars since! :smiley:
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Think we may get some more news at Geneva show end of month.
Surprised its been delayed so much when facelift / refresh should be out mid year.
Dave
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I know we have discussed this before based on previous available info. However, the VW configurator in Germany showing the clubsport only offers the DSG option, at the moment?
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Yep, and still no release date for them for a manual version.
And the delivery build weeks keep changing a lot for ones that have ordered, plus ETKA lists Edition 40 and Clubsport decals in Grey, meaning they think more colours will come.
Its an odd set up all together.
EDIT - Now been launched in Austria today, still no Manual option and they don't get the buckets or Xenons as standard, so our spec "may" not be what we think, at least regarding the buckets.
Dave
Dave
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I am hoping for all the same kit that's standard on the GTI, but think the bucket seats will be an option in the UK.
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Judging by the Facebook page, the Germans just got the ability to spec a manual gearbox.
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Judging by the Facebook page, the Germans just got the ability to spec a manual gearbox.
http://app.volkswagen.de/ihdcc/de/configurator.html#30300/36140/GTIClubsport
How much longer for us to wait :-(
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and its now on the Dutch and Belgian sites.......C'Mon VW UK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Clubsport Lightweight at Wörthersee? :smiley:
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Interesting though don't get Xennons or the buckets on standard spec.
Wonder if we will get charged for buckets too....
Dave
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Interesting though don't get Xennons or the buckets on standard spec.
Wonder if we will get charged for buckets too....
Dave
Xenons I recon will be standard with the buckets an option here. They don't get xenons standard in Germany on the GTi either amongst other option standard here but then the car the GTi and others are cheaper in Germany too.
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Top Gear review http://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/driven-vws-golf-gti-clubsport-track#1
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Small update and confirmation....
UK car spec will get 18's as standard, as they state that in the competition they are running on FB to give them a name.
Bad side is that as they have not even named them yet, and its judged on the 15th March, means we won't see a release before then at least. Guessing end of March now.
Other news, a Red one is at Geneva, so pics hopefully soon.
Dave
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First image with ACC as I guess we will get
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Note the red circle on logo on wheel centres too.
Dave
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I hope the interior makes it something special.
Based on the photos, I don't like the wheels. front bumper additions and can't get over excited about the rear spoiler.
The single black stripe looks like insulation tape and I can't see myself fitting red wheel badge additions to mine.
Is it just me, who finds the additions a little fussy over the standard car?
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Somewhat agreed, its a mixed bag, but been growing on me.
You have to remember though that all other Editions have just been a trim and ECU tweek, at least this has something more, with the suspension, (small areo) and more major power hike, it had a somewhat small but at least development programme, whereas the ED35 or ED30 did not. Can't remember on the 25.
Ebay spoiler anyone https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/vw-golf-7-gti-clubsport-heckspoiler-heckfluegel-original/432354019-223-3983 (https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/vw-golf-7-gti-clubsport-heckspoiler-heckfluegel-original/432354019-223-3983)
Dave
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To be fair, the Ed30 & 35 were a little more than Ecu tweak. Stronger versions of the 2.0 and larger Turbo, they have simple tuning potential out of the box which takes them to and maybe beyond the level of the production clubsport at the moment.
I hope the Clubsport comes good, I much prefer the standard spec 18" wheels. The interior and engine could still save the day!
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Video showing red one with regular Clubsport seats and armrest.
https://youtu.be/UU3D49zXKDY (https://youtu.be/UU3D49zXKDY)
Your correct I forgot the ED30 we had had the larger turbo too and S3 head mods too.
Dave
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Looks great in red! Love the wheels and the dark tinted rear lights. Are they straight off the R? Might be worth swapping mine for if I could get a cheap pair.
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I hope the interior makes it something special.
Based on the photos, I don't like the wheels. front bumper additions and can't get over excited about the rear spoiler.
The single black stripe looks like insulation tape and I can't see myself fitting red wheel badge additions to mine.
Is it just me, who finds the additions a little fussy over the standard car?
I love the front bumper, not too sure about the Clubsport tape on the side but those wheels I love them. I also love oryx white as well. I wasn't too sure about it until I got my CC and on a sunny day the colour looks fantastic.
That said I ordered my GTD in LSG knowing that we will get the Clubsport in oryx white(if we get it)
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You have to remember though that all other Editions have just been a trim and ECU tweek, at least this has something more, with the suspension, (small areo) and more major power hike, it had a somewhat small but at least development programme, whereas the ED35 or ED30 did not. Can't remember on the 25.
As Clubsport pointed out, the 30 and 35 had different engines and larger turbochargers. The 25 used the 180PS version with a 6 speed gearbox from the lesser powered TT, Leon 20VT/Cupra and Octavia vRS (this was 5 speed, byt still the same engine) Again, this 180PS engine had some different internals, VVT and turbocharger.
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the insulating tape on the 5dr is a bit .. well sh!te isn't it?
Can you still get the forged 18's or is it Austin twisties in the pics and the Pretorias with cup 2's?
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Watched the video and pretty underwhelmed. Not a big fan of Alcantara trim - it gets grubby over time. Prefer the check fabric on regular GTi seats. Still think the Ed30 was the best upgrade on a regular Golf GTi.
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First German deliveries today
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Dave
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Now I like that, I was thinking silver would suit it.
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Interesting link, showing differences in bodykit between standard and CS GTI
http://auto.eyuyao.com/news/2016-3/7/tz41t72016379546_1.html (http://auto.eyuyao.com/news/2016-3/7/tz41t72016379546_1.html)
Dave
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Interesting link, showing differences in bodykit between standard and CS GTI
http://auto.eyuyao.com/news/2016-3/7/tz41t72016379546_1.html (http://auto.eyuyao.com/news/2016-3/7/tz41t72016379546_1.html)
Dave
Good find.
I absolutely love the blue on that standard GTI
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Having seen this in the flash and now sat in one I can say if feels special, the wheel feels great as do the seats, I like the look of it and thing it will look best in white, red or silver
Love the rear spoiler, not sure how pristine the gloss back bits will look in a few years
Missed opportunities for me, four pot brakes and some lightweight 18s
If there is a daft lease deal a more door would tempt me
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Sorry if I've missed this but will this be a limited run?
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Having seen this in the flash and now sat in one I can say if feels special, the wheel feels great as do the seats, I like the look of it and thing it will look best in white, red or silver
Love the rear spoiler, not sure how pristine the gloss back bits will look in a few years
Missed opportunities for me, four pot brakes and some lightweight 18s
If there is a daft lease deal a more door would tempt me
Wigit did you go to Geneva?
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yes i did, i will sort out some pics of the CS in the net few days
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First German deliveries today
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Dave
That'll do me. 3 door silver with the bucket seats...
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yes i did, i will sort out some pics of the CS in the net few days
That's cool I am going this weekend so will have a look at it aswell.
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Its a shame if you have the buckets no ambient lighting in the doors, sill strips and I think overhead red lights, but I don't think its a deal breaker.
Still some discussion over the centre console though it seems, we know you can't have an arm rest with the buckets but first customer car here, has no blind over bottle holder area, when all show cars had. Looks a bit basic to be honest without.
No easy access system to rear with buckets, but not sure how big an issue this is, we have a 3 door and a child (7 years) and I'm not sure for the odd times we have 3x in the car, folding the seat back and pulling the lever forward under the seat would be an issue. I used to do this all the time in my first Ford Fiesta's and coupes etc :wink:
Dave
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Looks nice in Silver.
Is it me or do the exhausts look bigger than the std GTi? Might just be the angle?
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Still some discussion over the centre console though it seems, we know you can't have an arm rest with the buckets but first customer car here, has no blind over bottle holder area, when all show cars had. Looks a bit basic to be honest without.
If they'd told you that they'd done it to reduce weight then you'd be all over it.
So just think of it like that, weight reduction ;-)
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Looks great, love the seats and alcantara but no red lighting strips on the sills and doors? Come on VW, sort it out! It's the little touches that make these cars special.
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Still some discussion over the centre console though it seems, we know you can't have an arm rest with the buckets but first customer car here, has no blind over bottle holder area, when all show cars had. Looks a bit basic to be honest without.
If they'd told you that they'd done it to reduce weight then you'd be all over it.
So just think of it like that, weight reduction ;-)
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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This car is a complete waste of time IMO. It's basically a detuned R and what's the point in that given it will only be about a grand less and not have AWD.
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Still some discussion over the centre console though it seems, we know you can't have an arm rest with the buckets but first customer car here, has no blind over bottle holder area, when all show cars had. Looks a bit basic to be honest without.
If they'd told you that they'd done it to reduce weight then you'd be all over it.
So just think of it like that, weight reduction ;-)
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Its just a shame it weighs the same as the GTI in the same spec. I guess the "Sport" seats are not that much of a true weight saving.
This car is a complete waste of time IMO. It's basically a detuned R and what's the point in that given it will only be about a grand less and not have AWD.
Sadly I agree
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Agree also in some respect, but the gap between the 2x has always been relatively small, what with the PP version of the GTi.
I have considered ordering an R too, at end of last year with the current discounts via brokers and loyalty bonus, but so many around now, I think I have seen about 3x 16 plates this week alone! That has got to be bad come resale time, considering mine will be cash purchase?
Dave
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Its the anniversary model - enough said.
Its designed and specced and commercially placed to attract VW enthusiasts. If you look at the history of the campaign models they've all had little style or performance differences to the regular models.
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This car is a complete waste of time IMO. It's basically a detuned R and what's the point in that given it will only be about a grand less and not have AWD.
I think it all depends on who they are marketing it towards. For me it's a GTI + rather than a R -
I'm sure plenty buy GTi that could realistically afford an R. For me both the Gti and R both need a few more HP next time out. I love those seats on the CS though.
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Agree also in some respect, but the gap between the 2x has always been relatively small, what with the PP version of the GTi.
I have considered ordering an R too, at end of last year with the current discounts via brokers and loyalty bonus, but so many around now, I think I have seen about 3x 16 plates this week alone! That has got to be bad come resale time, considering mine will be cash purchase?
Dave
An R is just a series production model and not a hallowed special engineering project but whatever way you look at it, it sits at the top of the current Golf tree so will always be worth more money than other models in the range until they reach banger age.
Maybe the CS will have a bit of a halo in some circles and will hold its value better than an R? Who knows but I don't think it'll be with a huge amount more than other Golfs. I'd be happy to be proved wrong!
Look back at the mk5 GTI and they were everywhere, same with a mk2. Did those popular models suffer bad depreciation? Quite the reverse in their heyday and I think the R is having a bit of a heyday. It's only the fact that there's still lots of cheap leasers about driving the perceived value down, but the real reason for its popularity is that it has become an affordable 300 bhp 4wd Q-car with the classlessness of the Golf moniker. So there will be a good market for used ones amongst the boy and girl racer brigade for a few years to come once the leasegate and dieselgate thing has passed into history.
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Its the anniversary model - enough said.
Its designed and specced and commercially placed to attract VW enthusiasts. If you look at the history of the campaign models they've all had little style or performance differences to the regular models.
Indeed Neil. Nail on head.
Which reminds me, I've still not ordered a new wash mitt...
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Its the anniversary model - enough said.
Its designed and specced and commercially placed to attract VW enthusiasts. If you look at the history of the campaign models they've all had little style or performance differences to the regular models.
Indeed Neil. Nail on head.
Which reminds me, I've still not ordered a new wash mitt...
Might be worth waiting until the site has been rebuilt otherwise you wont be able to use the forum discount.
Cheers
Neil
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Ok Neil
That saves me having to clean the car for a while longer then... :grin:
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Ok Neil
That saves me having to clean the car for a while longer then... :grin:
:laugh:
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Really like it in Carbon, still get to see the details of the black styling, but subtle and stealthy.
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Loving the Carbon Grey. Are the tailpipes significantly bigger than standard? The new rear spoiler also appears more subtle than on the white car. Each to their own but I'd buy one if I had the cash!
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Amazing! A clubsport with 5 doors and a sunroof = Wtf!!!
I have a real CS in the garage, which has no headlining, carpets or seat belts, shorter gearing, lightweight glass etc.. exactly how it left the manufacturer, maybe my hopes for the Golf Clubsport were a little too high!? :)
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Do we know when this is available in the UK?
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Loving the Carbon Grey. Are the tailpipes significantly bigger than standard? The new rear spoiler also appears more subtle than on the white car. Each to their own but I'd buy one if I had the cash!
Yes, it was somewhere in the literature that the tailpipes are bigger diameter
Amazing! A clubsport with 5 doors and a sunroof = Wtf!!!
I have a real CS in the garage, which has no headlining, carpets or seat belts, shorter gearing, lightweight glass etc.. exactly how it left the manufacturer, maybe my hopes for the Golf Clubsport were a little too high!? :)
Ahh yes, but this model has vague claims of aerodynamic efficiency when flat out on a race track thus making it irresistible to weekend racers :rolleyes:
Perhaps the open sunroof gives it even more downforce?
Perhaps this is just a cynical marketing exercise that was initiated a few years ago with actual lightweight panels to show off the MQB platform's variable production possibilities before the grey suits realised how much that little investment would cost then watered it down to the level of 'maybe a few stickers and a spoiler will do, nobody gives a toss about MQB anymore anyway'
C'mon, the gullible public will lap it all up, all they give a toss about these days is how many toys their car has.
Do we know when this is available in the UK?
The OP will be along with this info as soon as he knows. :afro:
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PS. Those black Pretorias have totally smitten me in those pics in Daves post.
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Has anybody in here managed to place a deposit for clubsport or place a order at all?
My dealer still waiting on news at the moment.
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The OP will be along with this info as soon as he knows. :afro:
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:smiley: Its guess work, but the competition for the standard 18" wheels VW UK are running is announced on the 15th, so you would guess its ready to go live after that. I'd guess Easter weekend (Good Friday) maybe?
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First deliveries seem to be getting the R badge on their engine covers too.
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That rear spoiler is a bit of an eye sore :sick:
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The OP will be along with this info as soon as he knows. :afro:
:smiley: Its guess work, but the competition for the standard 18" wheels VW UK are running is announced on the 15th, so you would guess its ready to go live after that. I'd guess Easter weekend (Good Friday) maybe?
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If you look at the VW Germany site configurator, those 18" wheels appear to go by the name of Belvedere.
I wonder if that will be the winning name chosen, or we will get a special name for UK applications to add to the confusion!? :)
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Engine cover "R" badge is a bit random don't you think? Would have been nice to open the bonnet to see Clubsport on it, as it appears the car has GTI, Clubsport, TSI and R in various places according to the pics.
Also are these the only seats or are the bucket seats in the early reviews an option?
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Engine cover "R" badge is a bit random don't you think? Would have been nice to open the bonnet to see Clubsport on it, as it appears the car has GTI, Clubsport, TSI and R in various places according to the pics.
Also are these the only seats or are the bucket seats in the early reviews an option?
No one knows what the spec is going to be on the UK ones. The standard GTi in Germany doesn't get half of the kit that the UK cars get.
Agreed the R badge is a bit random.
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I've had a deposit down since October.
However im very close to getting it back. There is no way I'm having standard seats in it. Also some say that the uk spec won't have upholder cover, light trims in the doors and seats are going to be an expensive option.
Even at last weeks dealer forum there wasn't any talk of costs or release dates, apart from saying it's going to be a quarter 2 car.
The more I read and the the more pictures I see of it, the less interested I'm becoming. It's not really special enough.
Let's see the costs involved
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The front is a bit of a dogs dinner. It's as if they wanted an air-scoop and fins and weren't sure how to go about it.
Maybe in the flesh though its different.
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Got an update from the dealer yesterday that production for the clubsport is confirmed and will be released later this year. Sadly nothing more :(
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Got an update from the dealer yesterday that production for the clubsport is confirmed and will be released later this year. Sadly nothing more :(
Not exactly an update as first cars have already been delivered to owners in Germany.
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Got an update from the dealer yesterday that production for the clubsport is confirmed and will be released later this year. Sadly nothing more :(
Not exactly an update as first cars have already been delivered to owners in Germany.
Sorry - confirmed for the UK market.
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I asked at Geneva this weekend but they did not know other countries release date but said theirs was July.
The car looked really nice though I am not sure about the black roof but I am another one getting frustrated with the lack of information.
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I was looking forward to swapping my Edition 35 for the Clubsport but I got fed up waiting so accepted a great deal from a dealer on an R last week. No regrets
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Spoke to my dealer today, was told that the last communication from VW was there would be "more information" before end of month....I was hoping to order before end of month!! :sad:
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Not read thru' this whole thread, but has anyone seen this happening on Twitter. Must mean something is imminent?
Volkswagen UK on Twitter: "The Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 w/ Quaranta alloys! Congratulations to David for coming up with the winning name. https://t.co/e12qIAxVgg"
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VW's twitter page makes the CS look fantastic. I've never really liked it until now.
Its also got a lovely stance in this picture. Pity it doesn't come like that.
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VW's twitter page makes the CS look fantastic. I've never really liked it until now.
Its also got a lovely stance in this picture. Pity it doesn't come like that.
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It was the same with the R launch pictures as well Stevie. It doesn't quite look as good in the flesh
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I think the R actually looks worse in that shot than in the flesh. It's a lot lower and chunkier close up in the flesh where that pic almost gives it a mk6 stance.
As for the CS, I'd take a Leon Cupra over that any day of the week which pains me to say.
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I think the R actually looks worse in that shot than in the flesh. It's a lot lower and chunkier close up in the flesh where that pic almost gives it a mk6 stance.
As for the CS, I'd take a Leon Cupra over that any day of the week which pains me to say.
A Seat Cupra 290 with the sub8 pack, DSG and a stage 1 map would be hard to resist and still cheaper than the Clubsport.
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But it's still a Seat .....
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But it's still a Seat .....
Yes, good point Lord/Lady Wish.
Frightful commoner SEATs just won't do for you, nor common old special edition GTI people's cars with no pretend race car seats.
Riff raff like me are obviously below you too so I'll depart the forum now and jump into my SEAT and go find some other untermensch to hang out with...
(Although I will admit a good few SEAT dealers are more than a bit crap)
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But it's still a Seat .....
And what is a Seat? An Audi with a Ford interior! If you can live with the cheaper interior then it's not a bad way to go - although some of the money saved will be lost with poorer residuals, which can be counteracted with a good 0% APR deal that Seat frequently do.
The last time I was tempted by a Seat was the old Cupra when I chopped in my MK5 170TDI. The dealer pretty much wanted me to buy the car before he'd give me a test drive. Considering I had £17k of p/x metal I thought it was obvious I was not some charva rolling up in a clapped out 16 year old Corsa with gold wheels just looking for a quick joy ride with no intention to buy. I took one look at the scratchy plastic interior and decided to head to the VW garage for a Scirocco instead.
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Can't be far away now.................
Its on my SLI ordering system with the 3/5 door and Manual/DSG option...................
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Whats an SLI ordering system?
Dare you spill the beans on list prices / options, standard spec etc?
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It's the system we order all new cars on.
It wont let me go any further than the 3/5 door Manual or DSG option.
Fingers crossed something more over the next few days with colours, specs etc
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That's good news, this car has really tempted me especially since seeing it so be interesting in spec options and price.
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I'm toying with either the clubsport / Golf R / S3 / m135i
Opinions welcome!
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I'm toying with either the clubsport / Golf R / S3 / m135i
Opinions welcome!
Personally i would go with the M135i
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My wife has a 235i and it's a fantastic car. It's currently for sale on pistonheads and autotrader.
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I've just test drove an S3, as i had began to get tired of waiting for the clubsport to be released. I wasn't blown away by it though, and neither could i order one. The facelift A3/S3 is due in May and Audi haven't released prices or spec yet. sound familiar?
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I'm not bothering with the GTI Clubsport as I feel pricing will be close to the Golf R and no discounts will be available.
Given up on the Golf R400 also.
Just about to order a Golf R ;)
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I'm toying with either the clubsport / Golf R / S3 / m135i
Opinions welcome!
Clubsport -wait and see for UK spec (likely to be generous on the equipment), availability of options like Recaro type seats (maybe test drive a Cupra 290 and ignore the interior while you do it, to get a feel for how it will drive). Will you get a decent discount on it?
Golf R - It's here now, no surprises, great traction and usable power, looks nicer externally than the 135i and S3 and second best interior (after the S3), good standard level of equipment. Easy to get 13% discount + loyalty discount if you're eligible and get your car on time + deposit contribution.
S3 -OK looking exterior (looks less good in 5 doors Sportback than either Golf option), great interior, feck-all in standard equipment beyond non-active Xenons, so you will be dipping into the options heavily. 12% discount if you go to the right dealer - harder to extract that discount from a lot of Audi dealerships.
M135i - Sounds great, goes great (questionable stability when the weather is sh!te - rear wheel drive) extremely Fugly, decent level of equipment - big discounts available (24% off RRP).
I personally wouldn't consider the M135i due to its looks.
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Can't be far away now.................
Its on my SLI ordering system with the 3/5 door and Manual/DSG option...................
Looks like things are getting a little closer at least - if you are able to give guidance, what I would like to know is what the lead time of GTI/R models are like at the moment? I know there have been long lead times, but I was quoted 9-12 months by one dealer earlier today when talking about GTI's.
That seems pretty outrageous, when the German markets clubsport cars appear to be getting deliver in something like 8 weeks or so
Anything you can offer from your knowledge here?
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I'm not bothering with the GTI Clubsport as I feel pricing will be close to the Golf R and no discounts will be available.
Given up on the Golf R400 also.
Just about to order a Golf R ;)
Good shout.
Besides, do you really want a face like this staring at you when you open the garage door?
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Disclaimer: I also said rude things about the R and ended up owning one, so...
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I'm not bothering with the GTI Clubsport as I feel pricing will be close to the Golf R and no discounts will be available.
Given up on the Golf R400 also.
Just about to order a Golf R ;)
Good shout.
Besides, do you really want a face like this staring at you when you open the garage door?
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Disclaimer: I also said rude things about the R and ended up owning one, so...
Where did you find a picture of my ex?!?!
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I've always had black cars, my last GTI7 was black.
However the Clubsport looks best in White or red in my eyes.
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I'm liking them black Pretoria's if that's what they are:drool:
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Can't be far away now.................
Its on my SLI ordering system with the 3/5 door and Manual/DSG option...................
Looks like things are getting a little closer at least - if you are able to give guidance, what I would like to know is what the lead time of GTI/R models are like at the moment? I know there have been long lead times, but I was quoted 9-12 months by one dealer earlier today when talking about GTI's.
That seems pretty outrageous, when the German markets clubsport cars appear to be getting deliver in something like 8 weeks or so
Anything you can offer from your knowledge here?
The dealer / sales person you are talking to is unfortunately telling you a lie. I guess he is trying to build your desire and get you to order one as soon as possible to beat the growing waiting list.......
Average lead times on R and GTI are in the region of 12-16 weeks.
Each dealer has a maximum quota of cars they can order each month so unless they have out sold there quota for the next 5-6 months in advance then don't believe a word.
We are classed a large retailer although we are only a town in the Cotswolds and I ordered 19 Golfs last week for our months quota.
The club sport however may be a different kettle of fish because they tend to only offer a limited allocation to each dealer. So for example we may only get a quota of 6 per year on the club sport, this really helps resale value. Hence why we have just offered a lady £14500 for her what will be later in the year a 5 year old edition 35.
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I'm liking them black Pretoria's if that's what they are:drool:
They are black Pretorias. I love Prets in gloss black.
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Can't be far away now.................
Its on my SLI ordering system with the 3/5 door and Manual/DSG option...................
Looks like things are getting a little closer at least - if you are able to give guidance, what I would like to know is what the lead time of GTI/R models are like at the moment? I know there have been long lead times, but I was quoted 9-12 months by one dealer earlier today when talking about GTI's.
That seems pretty outrageous, when the German markets clubsport cars appear to be getting deliver in something like 8 weeks or so
Anything you can offer from your knowledge here?
The dealer / sales person you are talking to is unfortunately telling you a lie. I guess he is trying to build your desire and get you to order one as soon as possible to beat the growing waiting list.......
Average lead times on R and GTI are in the region of 12-16 weeks.
Each dealer has a maximum quota of cars they can order each month so unless they have out sold there quota for the next 5-6 months in advance then don't believe a word.
We are classed a large retailer although we are only a town in the Cotswolds and I ordered 19 Golfs last week for our months quota.
The club sport however may be a different kettle of fish because they tend to only offer a limited allocation to each dealer. So for example we may only get a quota of 6 per year on the club sport, this really helps resale value. Hence why we have just offered a lady £14500 for her what will be later in the year a 5 year old edition 35.
As the OP on this one...can you shed any light on when the CS is likely top be available to order? Deposit 10month anniversary is next week :-o
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I'm liking them black Pretoria's if that's what they are:drool:
They are black Pretorias. I love Prets in gloss black.
I'm not normally a black alloy wheels fan but the Pretorias look so good in black I've decided I need a set in my life.
I think the CS looks loads better in the dark colour too, it hides that overly fussy mouth area.
Carbon Grey CS with black Prets: where do I sign?!!
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My main concern over the CS edition will be its ability to put all its power down through the front wheels. My 'bog-basic' GTI struggles to put all its power down particularly between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my number one bugbear with the GTI. With all the extra power of the CS, and a bit more torque, I hazard a guess the CS will struggle in anything but near perfect conditions. If I was in the market for 'even more' performance and power, which I'm not, I wouldn't hesitate and get an R. The 4Motion system helps plant nearly all available power down onto the road, even in damp conditions. That's true day-to-day usable performance. Extra power is all well and but if you can't use it.......
I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's chips. Just a reality check. However I think the CS will be collectable and hold its value well in the years ahead.
That roof spoiler still looks a bit chav though :wink:
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My main concern over the CS edition will be its ability to put all its power down through the front wheels. My 'bog-basic' GTI struggles to put all its power down particularly between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my number one bugbear with the GTI. With all the extra power of the CS, and a bit more torque, I hazard a guess the CS will struggle in anything but near perfect conditions. If I was in the market for 'even more' performance and power, which I'm not, I wouldn't hesitate and get an R. The 4Motion system helps plant nearly all available power down onto the road, even in damp conditions. That's true day-to-day usable performance. Extra power is all well and but if you can't use it.......
I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's chips. Just a reality check. However I think the CS will be collectable and hold its value well in the years ahead.
That roof spoiler still looks a bit chav though :wink:
Does your GTi have the PP pack?
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My main concern over the CS edition will be its ability to put all its power down through the front wheels. My 'bog-basic' GTI struggles to put all its power down particularly between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my number one bugbear with the GTI. With all the extra power of the CS, and a bit more torque, I hazard a guess the CS will struggle in anything but near perfect conditions. If I was in the market for 'even more' performance and power, which I'm not, I wouldn't hesitate and get an R. The 4Motion system helps plant nearly all available power down onto the road, even in damp conditions. That's true day-to-day usable performance. Extra power is all well and but if you can't use it.......
I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's chips. Just a reality check. However I think the CS will be collectable and hold its value well in the years ahead.
That roof spoiler still looks a bit chav though :wink:
Does your GTi have the PP pack?
No. As I said it's a stock GTI. However, I've heard of plenty on here with a PP suffering the same issues.
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My main concern over the CS edition will be its ability to put all its power down through the front wheels. My 'bog-basic' GTI struggles to put all its power down particularly between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my number one bugbear with the GTI. With all the extra power of the CS, and a bit more torque, I hazard a guess the CS will struggle in anything but near perfect conditions. If I was in the market for 'even more' performance and power, which I'm not, I wouldn't hesitate and get an R. The 4Motion system helps plant nearly all available power down onto the road, even in damp conditions. That's true day-to-day usable performance. Extra power is all well and but if you can't use it.......
I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's chips. Just a reality check. However I think the CS will be collectable and hold its value well in the years ahead.
That roof spoiler still looks a bit chav though :wink:
Does your GTi have the PP pack?
No. As I said it's a stock GTI. However, I've heard of plenty on here with a PP suffering the same issues.
I have driven both and I found a big difference. What tyres do you have and what pressure are they set at?
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My main concern over the CS edition will be its ability to put all its power down through the front wheels. My 'bog-basic' GTI struggles to put all its power down particularly between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my number one bugbear with the GTI. With all the extra power of the CS, and a bit more torque, I hazard a guess the CS will struggle in anything but near perfect conditions. If I was in the market for 'even more' performance and power, which I'm not, I wouldn't hesitate and get an R. The 4Motion system helps plant nearly all available power down onto the road, even in damp conditions. That's true day-to-day usable performance. Extra power is all well and but if you can't use it.......
I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's chips. Just a reality check. However I think the CS will be collectable and hold its value well in the years ahead.
That roof spoiler still looks a bit chav though :wink:
Does your GTi have the PP pack?
No. As I said it's a stock GTI. However, I've heard of plenty on here with a PP suffering the same issues.
I have driven both and I found a big difference. What tyres do you have and what pressure are they set at?
Mk7-GTD I don't want to hijack this thread with my 'transfer all available power to tarmac' woes. PM me if you wanna chat some more. Thx :smiley:
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Before anyone gets ideas about the CS becoming collectible, it makes sense to find out how many will be built in total and how many coming to the UK.
The Uk were supposed to receive 1500 Ed30's, but there ended up being something like 2200 examples imported, so we may need to see how many actually arrive?
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Before anyone gets ideas about the CS becoming collectible, it makes sense to find out how many will be built in total and how many coming to the UK.
The Uk were supposed to receive 1500 Ed30's, but there ended up being something like 2200 examples imported, so we may need to see how many actually arrive?
I personally don't think the number built or available for the UK will make a difference to the desirability of the Clubsport to the right people...
Yes, more ed30s than were originally allocated came through, still didn't dampen the enthusiasm for it at the time and even now it remains a very desirable car and commands a healthy premium over a 'regular' gti,
Fast forward to the ED35 which was available with no restrictions on availability, even with this only around 700 ever made it onto the road and again they command a healthy premium over a regular gti,
The anniversary editions have always been a niche model and imo don't appeal to the majority of 'normal' GTI buyers (cost versus the regular gti for little perceived extra and sat under the halo 'R' models), I can't see the Clubsport being any different in this respect or any less desirable regardless of numbers...? :smiley:
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Hmm. didn't the Ed 30 & 35 cost a healthy premium over a regular GTi when new?
After 8-10 years old (approx) when cars have been through a few good bad owners and have different mileages, conditions and service histories, that makes more difference to any premium.
I have owned classic cars for years before it became " the thing to do", low numbers of desirable cars built does tend to maintain and increase values over time.
Porsche has restricted numbers of new GT4, Spyder, RS & R. The last 2 have traded thinly at 100% premium, that is for physical & paper trail cars!
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My main concern over the CS edition will be its ability to put all its power down through the front wheels. My 'bog-basic' GTI struggles to put all its power down particularly between 1st, 2nd and 3rd. This is my number one bugbear with the GTI. With all the extra power of the CS, and a bit more torque, I hazard a guess the CS will struggle in anything but near perfect conditions. If I was in the market for 'even more' performance and power, which I'm not, I wouldn't hesitate and get an R. The 4Motion system helps plant nearly all available power down onto the road, even in damp conditions. That's true day-to-day usable performance. Extra power is all well and but if you can't use it.......
I don't mean to p*ss on anybody's chips. Just a reality check. However I think the CS will be collectable and hold its value well in the years ahead.
That roof spoiler still looks a bit chav though :wink:
The rear spoiler is more discreet with the darker colours!
Have a look on seatcupra.net if you want feedback on how the CS will handle the power. A friend of mine had a Cupra for a while as a company car and he didn't complain too much about wheelspin. He's not one for hanging around either.
Having spent a small but very enjoyable amount of time with a GTI PP with tuning box the only traction issues are from a standing start if you're blasting from the lights without feeding the power in smoothly. If the wheels are turned such as coming out of sharp corners the diff takes care of the wheelspin and the car just rockets out. It felt lighter on its toes than an R and with the extra torque it just pulled cleanly and quickly where as an R digs its arse end in and powers out in a different way. The CS will be somewhere between those two with an extra useable rev range compared to a tuned PP GTI (but less torque), and minus the rear axle intervention of the R but feeling lighter. Good fun in other words!
As ever with the limited edition Golfs, they'll depreciate like any other model in the range for the first few years then steady out when they become sought after. The ED30 hit the market at a time when hot hatches were in high fashion again so were always in demand due to the tune-ability(sp?) of the Cupra engine it used but the current vogue seems to be 350 bhp plus über hatches for those upsizing from regular GTI's, R's and RS etc plus those downsizing from M3's and AMG's due to the latter's hideous running costs. The general buying public seem to like Qashquais and Evoques and Kugas at the moment so the Tiguan R Line will be of more interest to a lot of people who want a sporty looking car but don't use its abilities much.
After the dull ED35 I think VW have done a good, if slightly busy looking, job with the CS and I'm sure it'll have its own little place in history.
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Hmm. didn't the Ed 30 & 35 cost a healthy premium over a regular GTi when new?
After 8-10 years old (approx) when cars have been through a few good bad owners and have different mileages, conditions and service histories, that makes more difference to any premium.
I have owned classic cars for years before it became " the thing to do", low numbers of desirable cars built does tend to maintain and increase values over time.
Porsche has restricted numbers of new GT4, Spyder, RS & R. The last 2 have traded thinly at 100% premium, that is for physical & paper trail cars!
There's a Capri Brooklands on eBay at the moment for about £100,000
I'm sure there are a few of us that wince when we see the current values of cars we sold for a couple hundred quid a few years ago!!
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(http://www.golf7gti.com/upload/direct/i_7345_2411_163975_37_1458895340_7438.jpg)
THIS for me please
Dave
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Before anyone gets ideas about the CS becoming collectible, it makes sense to find out how many will be built in total and how many coming to the UK.
The Uk were supposed to receive 1500 Ed30's, but there ended up being something like 2200 examples imported, so we may need to see how many actually arrive?
That is what we are waiting for.
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3 days to go in Q1 (when I was told there would be more information), will it happen?
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3 days to go in Q1 (when I was told there would be more information), will it happen?
it's coming, don't worry. It's already visible on the dealers desktop system.
Personally I went the Golf R route ;)
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3 days to go in Q1 (when I was told there would be more information), will it happen?
it's coming, don't worry. It's already visible on the dealers desktop system.
Personally I went the Golf R route ;)
Tough call between the two models.
I'm intrigued to see what the UK CS spec is going to be, hopefully not too much longer to wait.
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3 days to go in Q1 (when I was told there would be more information), will it happen?
it's coming, don't worry. It's already visible on the dealers desktop system.
Personally I went the Golf R route ;)
Tough call between the two models.
I'm intrigued to see what the UK CS spec is going to be, hopefully not too much longer to wait.
From what I have heard, the bucket seats will be optional, add those and your well into Golf R money :sad:
There is only around £3000 difference already between the GTI PP and Golf R, So they will probably put the GTI CS in the middle?
Seem's way too close to Golf R money.
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But the CS will have way better residues (fingers crossed)
I think the cheap lease deals on the R will set a precedent for low residues.
I just wish they made the R a proper R with a nice interior and more sporty looking.
im sure it's a fantastic car, it's just never appealed to me.
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Mate,take it from me the R is a proper R,best one yet.
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What's with this trend with gloss black wheels all of a sudden? Seen it on a brand new Audi RS5 at the weekend too, looks proper chav especially on a black car.
Anthracite would look much better on the clubsport
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What's with this trend with gloss black wheels all of a sudden? Seen it on a brand new Audi RS5 at the weekend too, looks proper chav especially on a black car.
Anthracite would look much better on the clubsport
I couldn't agree more. Shiny black wheels look proper tacky.
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What's with this trend with gloss black wheels all of a sudden? Seen it on a brand new Audi RS5 at the weekend too, looks proper chav especially on a black car.
Anthracite would look much better on the clubsport
I couldn't agree more. Shiny black wheels look proper tacky.
Couldn't agree more.
We're BMW not the ones that started black wheels on their cars years ago and all the chavs followed.
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Every car seems to come with diamond cut or black wheels these days.
TBH its no different than a red strip through the grille :wink:
(says the person thats just ordered a set of black wheels) :grin:
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I think they will start flights to the moon before this bloody car is released by VW.
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It was back on SLI today will have a play tomorrow to see what options there is :laugh:
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It might be worth starting a new thread when you get some concrete info Lee. That'll save it getting lost in this massive thread. You could link back to here for those of us subscribed.
The tension builds... !!!
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The tension builds... !!!
The annoyance builds waiting for news.
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Today is last day in Q1.......will VW honour their word and release information today?
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Today is last day in Q1.......will VW honour their word and release information today?
I dont think I would put any money on it! :whistle:
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Doubt it!
My guess is tomorrow, April Fools day of course.
Dave
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Doubt it!
My guess is tomorrow, April Fools day of course.
Dave
Exactly, if they do release it, none of us will believe them! :smiley:
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How about a nice "RUGGED NEW BEETLE DUNE"... available to order from Tuesday :tongue: :laugh:
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How about a nice "RUGGED NEW BEETLE DUNE"... available to order from Tuesday :tongue: :laugh:
Jon, you are the weakest link - Goodbye!
I really want my wife to go into a CS but she's seems determined to back into a JCW Mini, wtf!
Knew I should've got a pre-nup that stared we must always have one VeeDub in the household!
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I've just ordered my wife a new JCW should be here mid May.
Have you heard the Bluetooth exhaust ? Well worth a YouTube search.
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Just trade the BMW Spaceship in for a fleet of VW's Neil :tongue:
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Just trade the BMW Spaceship in for a fleet of VW's Neil :tongue:
Ha, not got it anymore, back in an M4 for the time being then I have a little hot hatch arriving in April :wink:
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Cheeeesus, I can't keep up. "There's a small item of dust on that one, take it away" :smiley:
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How about a nice "RUGGED NEW BEETLE DUNE"... available to order from Tuesday :tongue: :laugh:
Pics?
ok, on second thoughts, don't bother... :laugh:
Cheeeesus, I can't keep up. "There's a small item of dust on that one, take it away" :smiley:
Show a bit of respect for our very own sheepskin mitt billionaire!! :laugh:
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VW Facebook page says the Clubsport is now open for order. Can't find any prices on the main website yet?
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Race seat optional ......... Boo !
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I knew it would be, bet it's at least a £2000 option, add that then your into Golf R pricing!!!
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Where does it say the seats are optional? I bet they will be I cannot see it.
Looks wise there is no comparison with the R the CS looks the part, the R is just too bland and 4 pipes don't make it look it sporty.
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Someone tell VW UK April Fools is only till miodday....
Releasing a tweet and facebook post on Friday at 4.00pm with no website or configurator update is a bit of a joke don't you think?
Dave
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Where does it say the seats are optional? I bet they will be I cannot see it.
Looks wise there is no comparison with the R the CS looks the part, the R is just too bland and 4 pipes don't make it look it sporty.
The bucket seats are a optional extra in Germany, it's up to VW UK if the make it standard, looks wise I prefer the GTI/CS in some respects over the R, but for the overall package I preferred the R over the CS hence why I went the R route. I have a feeling the CS will be priced around £1000-1500 less than the Golf R which isn't enough in my opinion.
The Golf R offers better performance and traction for not much more money vs CS.
The CS is for the hardcore GTI loyalists who don't want the top model Golf.
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Buckets are standard on German site but optional on other european sites.
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Info is on the dealer desktop info.
The 18" wheels are optional too. :-(
This is going to be very expensive car ....
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Yep, leather or cloth as no cost option for the Germans.
Dave
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Info is on the dealer desktop info.
The 18" wheels are optional too. :-(
This is going to be very expensive car ....
WTF, what else could be standard?
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Sorry my mistake 19" are an option.
Sorry
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/wish1672/image_zpsfrvxhfot.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wish1672/media/image_zpsfrvxhfot.png.html)
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Pretty brief brochure. Assume everything that's not mentioned follows the spec of the GTi?
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Looks like the buckets are optional as I suggested.
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Prices though?
Dave
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Wwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy too much .....
Don't know yet. My dealer said he can order the car but can't tell me the price. I would think he will get an update early next week
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http://s1305.photobucket.com/user/Daniel_Aitchison/embed/slideshow
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Recommended on the road price for 3dr CS is £30,850 and recommended on the road price for 3dr Golf R is £31,250! By the time u add the decent seats plus 19" wheels your well over what the R would cost.... Only on April fools would VW have the gumption to release this pricing list
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Oh my god ! £3,400 over the GTI then you need to add the seats.
That's miles more than I though it would.
You can get 16% off a GTI via DTD I wonder if they will add the Clubsport to there site ?
That is a lot of money.
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I'm sure my new S3 5dr wasn't that much last March ?
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I knew Volkswagen would find it hard in terms of the prices when the GTI PP and R are already so close price wise.
As I said before, the hardcore GTI loyalists will buy the GTI CS.
Golf R for me! :)
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That is a lot for the car that is closer to the GTI than the R. I really am interested in the car but the pricing of it has really put me off. The deals you can get on the R seem to be better value.
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That is crazy pricing, and options on top :shocked:
Back to the R option I think.
Dave
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That is a lot for the car that is closer to the GTI than the R. I really am interested in the car but the pricing of it has really put me off. The deals you can get on the R seem to be better value.
I pulled the trigger on a heavily spec Golf R, in combination with a good part-exchange deal with discount I saved around £6,000.
On UK roads the Golf R is the better car having 4WD.
So with the GTI CS it's all about the looks and sharper track performance.
Comparing the DSG 5dr R vs GTI 5dr CS, the Co2 is similar.
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I've got a dilemma now.
The R isn't an option for me.
So let's say a CS with seats and big wheels is £33k do I jump into my wifes 235i and run that or sell that for around £30k and spend extra getting in to the CS
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/wish1672/image_zpsvyaanjcg.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wish1672/media/image_zpsvyaanjcg.jpeg.html)
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Stick with the Beamer mate it is absolutely gorgeous!
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I've got a dilemma now.
The R isn't an option for me.
So let's say a CS with seats and big wheels is £33k do I jump into my wifes 235i and run that or sell that for around £30k and spend extra getting in to the CS
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/wish1672/image_zpsvyaanjcg.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wish1672/media/image_zpsvyaanjcg.jpeg.html)
Why isn't the Golf R an option?
Personally I'd keep the BMW or for a heavily discounted GTI PP.
The GTI CS is too much like the GTI.
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Stick with the Beamer mate it is absolutely gorgeous!
I second this!! :laugh:
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That is a lot for the car that is closer to the GTI than the R. I really am interested in the car but the pricing of it has really put me off. The deals you can get on the R seem to be better value.
I pulled the trigger on a heavily spec Golf R, in combination with a good part-exchange deal with discount I saved around £6,000.
On UK roads the Golf R is the better car having 4WD.
So with the GTI CS it's all about the looks and sharper track performance.
Comparing the DSG 5dr R vs GTI 5dr CS, the Co2 is similar.
Both of those statements are questionable :wink:
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I've got a dilemma now.
The R isn't an option for me.
So let's say a CS with seats and big wheels is £33k do I jump into my wifes 235i and run that or sell that for around £30k and spend extra getting in to the CS
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Why isn't the Golf R an option?
I'd guess if he's had an S3 recently he won't want something so similar.
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The S3 took an age from build to delivery and when it arrived it was a massive let down.
I sold it 3 weeks later. I paid for the seats in that one too lol.
My GTI7 PP was a brilliant it's the one I wish I hadn't sold.
I'm not too keen on the BMW if I honest, but I don't think I can sell it to add money to buy another golf.
Maybe I will sell it and buy another 7 PP via DTD
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I though the CS would be a couple of grand more, maybe £30k tops inc seats.
Then I though the residues would be good. I'm not sure now.
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Well, at the indicated price level, that should make the car very exclusive!
AS it is the edition 40, are VW pricing it to the point where they only sell 40 cars? :)
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If those prices are right, VW have lost the plot. I was 95% there, but not now. Guess I'll have to make do with my R a bit longer lol.
How much are the bucket seats and the 19s?
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Wheels are £595
The black roof is £295 !!!
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The seats are ....... £1350
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So it's £34,315 for a 3 dr DSG with the bucket seats, black roof, 19s in carbon grey.
Ouch.
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I think they are taking the piss is asking for £295 for the black roof. That should have been standard.
It's part of the CS DNA.
I feel a little bit cheated here.
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So it's £34,315 for a 3 dr DSG with the bucket seats, black roof, 19s in carbon grey.
Ouch.
OR you could get the following for about a grand cheaper.....
Volkswagen Golf R 5dr DSG
Pure White
Gloss Black Mirror's
19" Pretoria Alloy Wheels
Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC)
Panoramic Sunroof
DynAudio Sound System
Car App Net Connect (Apple CarPlay)
Advanced Telephone Kit
Climate Heated Windscreen
Keyless Go & Start/Stop
High Beam Assist
Rear Reversing Camera
Winter Pack
Rear 90% Tinted Windows
4 year warranty
Service Pack
GuardX
GAP Return to Invoice
;)
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Spec it fully loaded and it will be the edition£40000
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For that money I would definitely rather have an R.
I think they have got the pricing all wrong. You would have to be a huge fan of the CS to chuck that kind of cash at it.(IMHO)
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The GTI CS will hold good value BUT do you really want to spend on the GTI CS knowing it's not the top R model with useful 4WD?
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Spec it fully loaded and it will be the edition£40000
:laugh: and so true!
The GTI CS will hold good value BUT do you really want to spend on the GTI CS knowing it's not the top R model with useful 4WD?
You'd want it to do more than hold good value at that price.
Discounted R bought new versus facially challenged CS a few years down the line?
The cheap leases may have killed the R's exclusivity but not its reputation where it regularly tops magazine shoot outs, so although used values will be dented they won't be through the floor.
The CS would have to be very sought after to make it worth a few grand more than an R that could well have been bought for less when new.
Plus the CS will be very spec specific to make it worth its salt when it comes to used values. Certain specs will hold their values well but whether you'll get much of a real world £££ return on the thousands spent on extras is another thing.
For those that buy it for what it is and enjoy it for what it is then good on you.
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I've got a dilemma now.
The R isn't an option for me.
So let's say a CS with seats and big wheels is £33k do I jump into my wifes 235i and run that or sell that for around £30k and spend extra getting in to the CS
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v59/wish1672/image_zpsvyaanjcg.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wish1672/media/image_zpsvyaanjcg.jpeg.html)
That's an amazing looking car with a great engine.
I can't believe you'd rather have a Golf than that.
Personally I'd buy a Golf to go *with* that but not instead of.
My wife would also kill for some pillars like that outside her house. She's got a thing for houses with pillars, she watches too many American films.
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WOW at that price. Glad I didn't wait now. Looks like my R at £25400 was a bargain!
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Sorry guys I have been off today and Sod's law it launched today.....
VW0399-16
Prices and specification for the fabulous new Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 have now been announced. This iconic model opens for ordering today (Friday 1 April).
Key dates
1 April
- Open for order
- Price list, flyer and landing page on volkswagen.co.uk
5 April
- Quotable in Connect Online
- Available on Configurator
- Available on Blended Retailing tools including Personal Digital Brochure
18 April
- Start of production for Europe
Volume and lead times
As this special edition model is available in limited volume to a maximum of 1,000, we’re asking each Retailer to request their allocation. We have pre-ordered one Golf GTI Clubsport model for each Retailer for demonstration purposes. Further details on this will be published shortly.
Remember that production volumes are limited, though, so make sure you ask for a realistic number. You will then be more likely to get the units you request. If more than 1,000 units are requested by our Retailers, we will allocate accordingly.
Given the limited production capacity and expected high demand we anticipate extended lead times of up to 24 weeks. Please manage customer expectations accordingly. No stock or showroom orders will be scheduled for production to ensure that the available production slots are filled with customer orders.
Please complete this form to tell us how many of these highly anticipated vehicles you’d like allocation for, but note that we cannot guarantee allocation.
Engine and specification
The Golf GTI Clubsport is the most powerful GTI ever, with a 265PS engine that also has a boost feature which increases power output by 25PS for 10 seconds.
The 6-speed manual gearbox version sprints to 62mph in 6.0 seconds; the optional 6-speed dual-clutch gearbox (DSG) is even faster at 5.9 seconds. Top speed is 155mph (manual).
With the manual gearbox, consumption is 40.4 mpg (combined) and 162g/km CO2. The DSG version offers 40.9 mpg > 40.4 mpg (combined) and 158 g/km > 160 g/km CO2.
Available in 3-door or 5-door versions in both manual and DSG transmission the GTI Clubsport has high specification as standard including exclusive Clubsport styling inside and out, alcantara / cloth seats and Discover Navigation. Full specification and new options will be on the website Tuesday 5th April. The Price list including the GTI Clubsport is available now on volkswagen.co.uk.
Prices
A range of new options are available on the Clubsport:
The following options are not available:
8WB – front fog lights
7X2 – park distance control, front and rear (rear sensors are standard)
7X5 – parallel parking assistant plus park distance control, front and rear
Badge deletion
Tow bar
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After reading the specs on this it appears to me to be a complete waste of money.
A boost feature....how ridiculous can you get?
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Reading the above limited information reads also "no to very limited" discount.
With the Golf R discounts around this does seem a crazy priced car, be really interesting to speak to a few dealers though to see what they could do.
Dave
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So is anyone still keen to order? What about those people who have had deposits down for months? Are they now committed??
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I'm off to the dealer this morning. Had a deposit down since October.
Still don't know what to do.
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I'm off to the dealer this morning. Had a deposit down since October.
Still don't know what to do.
GET IT ORDERED!
I spoke to mine today also, they have to submit their allocation on Monday, I am No2 at that dealer (Deposit paid in on 3rd June!)...hopefully get an idea on Tuesday what the ETA would be.
A bit disappointed with the price but not really surprised. With only a 1000 available they will be a rare sight on our roads....unlike the 0000's of R's :-)
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I'm off to the dealer this morning. Had a deposit down since October.
Still don't know what to do.
GET IT ORDERED!
I spoke to mine today also, they have to submit their allocation on Monday, I am No2 at that dealer (Deposit paid in on 3rd June!)...hopefully get an idea on Tuesday what the ETA would be.
A bit disappointed with the price but not really surprised. With only a 1000 available they will be a rare sight on our roads....unlike the 0000's of R's :-)
Not sure its limited production run at all.
It says "As this special edition model is available in limited volume to a maximum of 1,000, we’re asking each Retailer to request their allocation"
It then goes on to say "If more than 1,000 units are requested by our Retailers, we will allocate accordingly"
Its limited to build the hype and get the orders in at a high margin price, but sounds like it is saying "if we want more we will make more"
Sounds like the Cayman GT4 or the Clio Williams.
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^^^That's what I thought at first. Or it could be that if they get more than 1,000 requests from dealers they will reduce some of the requested allocations to stay at the 1,000?
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I hope so, otherwise they will get some pretty disgruntled customers (not that they will mind at all). VW could say "we are listening to customers and have increased production to meet the need for the 40th anniversary model".
lets hope you are right and i'm wrong (wouldn't be the first time) :wink:
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^^^That's what I thought at first. Or it could be that if they get more than 1,000 requests from dealers they will reduce some of the requested allocations to stay at the 1,000?
That's exactly right
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^^^That's what I thought at first. Or it could be that if they get more than 1,000 requests from dealers they will reduce some of the requested allocations to stay at the 1,000?
That's how I read it. There's 1000 units available. If there are 100 dealers in the country and they all request 10 cars then everything is fine, if they request more than that then they'll divvy them up presumably by dealership size, their total sales volumes etc.
Unless your sole reasons for having one are exclusivity and optioning those seats you'd be mad to buy one of these over an R IMO. Buy one without the seats (can't see the point in that) and you'll still be paying more than an R if you can't access a decent level of discount. For that you're 35ps down without boost, a second off on the 0-62 times, same mpg (I really thought there'd be more than a 1mpg penalty for running a Haldex!).
Stick a limited allocation on less of a car and charge more money for it. I'd feel a bit of a mug if I did that.
I think VW pricing is crazy right now anyway - there's too little RRP difference between a GTI and an R since the GTI took on a bit more compulsory/standard equipment and adjusted it's RRP accordingly.
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Anyone know how many UK dealers there are?
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192 dealers....
As my son would say YOLO ...... I've given my spec to my dealer for them to place the order when allocation is opened.
3dr Manual
White with a black roof
Seats
Wheels
Reverse park camera
90% tints
Can't think if I've forgotten anything ?
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192 dealers....
As my son would say YOLO ...... I've given my spec to my dealer for them to place the order when allocation is opened.
3dr Manual
White with a black roof
Seats
Wheels
Reverse park camera
90% tints
Can't think if I've forgotten anything ?
Great Spec...same as me :-) Although added winter pack, need that for NE Scotland
Brescia or Pretoria? Brescia for me
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^^^Not sure how the winter pack will work as the buckets come heated.
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I didn't think winter pack came on the Clubsport with the upgraded seats.
Brescia wheels I think.
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I didn't think winter pack came on the Clubsport with the upgraded seats.
Brescia wheels I think.
Not really clear in brochure, might be £380 cheaper then!!
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Not too fussed about the seats its the screen I want
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I assume this is 1000 units for the UK?
That is still quite a few cars.
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Not too fussed about the seats its the screen I want
Screen ? What screen ?
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I assume this is 1000 units for the UK?
That is still quite a few cars.
i don't think it'll be limited to 1000 units in the end when the order books close.
It'll be limited by what the production line can produce.
If all 1000 units are sold within say the first 6 months of say a 14 month production line run, VW UK could request more RHD units to meet demand to be built as long as the factory has the capacity.
I don't think it's special enough over the standard GTI PP to justify Golf R pricing.
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The prets only come with the semi-slick tyres. So just £2480 for black (or silver) prets..!
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Probably just a photoshop job, but I see they've a proper dead pedal foot rest on a RHD car in the photos:
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I contacted my dealer today enquiringly about discount on the CS , I am not surprised with the reply but thought I would ask .
Hi Steve,
I am okay thank you, I hope you are.
Please see below and attached.
With the limited volume each VW retailer will only get about 4 of this model, I have asked about discount because of the limited supply unfortunately I have been told there will be no discount.
Best regards
James
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My wife was dead set on getting one but then 3 things happened.
1)We were rearended by a Land Rover Discovery and she was hurt quite badly(back and neck) and at the moment she can't travel in a Golf at the minute but hopefully that will change, I have had to borrow a Range Rover from my brother.
2)She knows how much of a discount, 18% easy that we can get off an R
3)The price of the Clubsport and not knowing if it is going to be limited to 1000 units in the UK
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I see the standard colour is Urano Grey according to when I looked at the price list in work yesterday.
We've been there before!
Actually there was a (leased I'll presume) Scirocco R on a 65 plate parked around the corner from my house last week for a day or so. It was in Urano Grey and I'm sad to say I thought it looked really good.
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Not too fussed about the seats its the screen I want
Screen ? What screen ?
Climate Screen
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Is that worth going for ?
Just been reading up on the tech pack not sure it that's worth going for. Didn't have it on my old gti7 and thought the standard stereo was quite good.
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Is there a press release with pricing, spec & extras out yet?
Nothing on the configurator as far as I can see?
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Is there a press release with pricing, spec & extras out yet?
Nothing on the configurator as far as I can see?
If you go on volkswagen.co.uk there's a downloadable brochure and price list that incorporates the CS.
The configurator goes live with it next week and then the errors in spec will eventually be ironed out by the time the first orders come through...
Aitchy posted up the price list as screen shots a few pages back.
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Thanks!
Here, if any one else needs it;
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/which-model/brochures
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No climate screen on the CS.
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I think the standard CS wheels are nicest looking. The others look like deformed Santiago's.
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I think the standard CS wheels are nicest looking. The others look like deformed Santiago's.
The Pretorias look lovely but not £2.5k lovely!
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I think the standard CS wheels are nicest looking. The others look like deformed Santiago's.
The Pretorias look lovely but not £2.5k lovely!
How are they £2500? Either that black paint costs £1600, the tyres cost £1600 more than those on the R, or the Cadiz are worth £1600 more than the standard CS wheels in the first place.
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They are not Pretorias, they are 'Quaranta' alloys apparently.
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They are not Pretorias, they are 'Quaranta' alloys apparently.
Quaranta standard, black or silver prets are options along with Brescia.
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Just checking ride hights and it seems the CS is going to have the same high ride hight as the GTI.
Thought it was going to be a little lower. Will the VW racing springs sort that out ?
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They are not Pretorias, they are 'Quaranta' alloys apparently.
Quaranta standard, black or silver prets are options along with Brescia.
Didn't see any mention of that but I only scanned the brochure quickly.
I certainly wouldn't pay a premium for them.
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I think the standard CS wheels are nicest looking. The others look like deformed Santiago's.
The Pretorias look lovely but not £2.5k lovely!
How are they £2500? Either that black paint costs £1600, the tyres cost £1600 more than those on the R, or the Cadiz are worth £1600 more than the standard CS wheels in the first place.
I think the standard 18's (Quarantas?) are forged hence why the bendy Santiagos are only a £595 uplift (which is what Santiagos should cost as an upgrade on the other GTI/D models really).
The Preotorias are so expensive due to having fancy track day tyres on and SEAT do the same sort of thing with the Sub8 wheels on the Leon Cupra.
It'll be interesting, as a rule of thumb guide, to see the PCP GFV's on the CS just to see how much faith VW have in retained values in the short term with their limited edition model.
Yeah, sure, if petrol engines are still even legal in 30 years time the CS will be a collectors piece but short to mid term it'll be interesting to compare the actual £££ retained values against a PP GTI and an R.
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Just returned form holiday to discover the Clubsport order books are open. However if the on the road price is only a couple hundred less than a Golf R then surely it would make sense to just go for an R. The Bucket Seats are even extra on the clubsport and the engine is detuned R engine so my money would probably go on a Golf R with this in mind. If I were to configure the Clubsport as I would like it will probably cost more than the Golf R configuration I would spec?
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I would say that it would cost more with the current discounts on the R.
My trouble is I have thinking of the clubsport as my next car for sometime. I knew the discounts would probably not happen, but I was hoping it would be sub 30k to get the car. I have been thinking about keeping the car longer with it being limited edition as I don't daily drive my GTI anymore so was thinking it would be better than the R in 5 or 6 years as be more limited.
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I would say that it would cost more with the current discounts on the R.
My trouble is I have thinking of the clubsport as my next car for sometime. I knew the discounts would probably not happen, but I was hoping it would be sub 30k to get the car. I have been thinking about keeping the car longer with it being limited edition as I don't daily drive my GTI anymore so was thinking it would be better than the R in 5 or 6 years as be more limited.
Just returned form holiday to discover the Clubsport order books are open. However if the on the road price is only a couple hundred less than a Golf R then surely it would make sense to just go for an R. The Bucket Seats are even extra on the clubsport and the engine is detuned R engine so my money would probably go on a Golf R with this in mind. If I were to configure the Clubsport as I would like it will probably cost more than the Golf R configuration I would spec?
You'd need certain extras to make a CS be worth much extra over an R, namely the seats and black roof as a minimum.
The exclusive alloys would also help its value but as it can be specced with Pretorias then a second owner could add those themselves so that won't affect value too much.
Also, being as it's a ClubSport then you'd think the 3 door would be more in keeping with the image and therefore worth more(?)
So we're already looking at a car £2k dearer than an R and on the assumption that you'd probably get a good part ex from a dealer for your mint late model VW you probably won't get much, if any CS discount.
An R can be picked up for around £5k discount so even allowing for maybe an extra grand or so you'd get part ex'ing your current car against a full price CS that narrows the gap to £4k (just theoretical figures).
Will a ClubSport be worth £4k more than an R in four or five years?
Collectors will mothball mint low mileage CS's but will they really be worth that much more on the open market after just a few years?
The boy racers will want R's for the traction once modified.
On another unrelated but relevant note (or should that be the other way round?), I saw my first new style Civic Type R on the road yesterday. After the slating it got on here for its looks - I'm ashamed to say I really liked it!
I'd be embarrassed to drive one at my age but it appealed to the inner child in me.
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Cheeeesus, I can't keep up. "There's a small item of dust on that one, take it away" :smiley:
Next ones a keeper for a couple of years!
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How about a nice "RUGGED NEW BEETLE DUNE"... available to order from Tuesday :tongue: :laugh:
Pics?
ok, on second thoughts, don't bother... :laugh:
Cheeeesus, I can't keep up. "There's a small item of dust on that one, take it away" :smiley:
Show a bit of respect for our very own sheepskin mitt billionaire!! :laugh:
Not quite but we're trying!
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Some times things don't make sense... You just have to go with your heart.
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Dealer has placed my order and I now have the number to track it....although it doesn't work at the moment..LOL
Really hoping not to be 24 weeks lead time.
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Congratulations.
What spec ?
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3dr Man
White with Black Roof
Buckets
19" Brescia
PrivacyGlass
Rear Camera
Winter Pack
Looking Fwd to it.
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Winter pack ? What does that give, the club seats are heated already
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Dealer has placed my order and I now have the number to track it....although it doesn't work at the moment..LOL
Really hoping not to be 24 weeks lead time.
Nice, I probably already know the answer but did they even mention the discount word?
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Hi all. Relatively new to the forum. Finally the club sport is out and I am seriously putting an order in this week.
So I agree that it is probably way over priced but I think there is something special about this car and whilst I know that it's a personal thing, I have never been a fan of he understated looks of the R.
Have put the feelers out with car wow and drive the deal. Although I suspect I already know he answer!
Failing that I have a friend of a friend who is a dealer. He helped me get a 8% off list 7 years ago. Still don't expect much.
Did you get anything off action?
This will be my first ever gti and I am mega excited!
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TBC with GM re discount but wont be holding my breath, its not on the Dealer Finance Contribution list either.
Agree with the comments about price but I also like the fact it isn't discounted, gives it a true value albeit an exensive one.
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TBC with GM re discount but wont be holding my breath, its not on the Dealer Finance Contribution list either.
Agree with the comments about price but I also like the fact it isn't discounted, gives it a true value albeit an exensive one.
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Action what's the standard spec like in terms of interior lighting and kit? I was thinking it would be the same as the GTI minus the front parking sensors.
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Dealer finally placed our order Saturday morning.
Took the call from the pitwall at Brands which was cool :cool:
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Wondering if they will appear on broker sites...
Carfile mentions the Clubsport in its text about finance contribution, but not listed as a model yet.
Dave
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Given that the bucket seats are options, the sunroof is an option and the better wheels are options, this is such poor value for money. £250 cheaper than the equivalent R without these options is just madness. There is no guarantee that the clubsport will retain any significant value or appeal over the R given the price differential.
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I agree with the above, it appears to be a triumph of marketing.
A "real" clubsport should not be any heavier than the regular car?
My 2 year old PP is suddenly looking incredible value and most likely lighter!
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I was all up for getting a clubsport a while ago, but the price is so close to an R albeit with a detuned version of the same engine and no 4WD, what exactly are you getting to warrant the price apart from the limited edition factor. If any of the options such as bucket seats, wheels with sports tyres or other options were standard, then it may be a more attractive purchase. But if I had bought a clubsport, I suspect I would have a niggling feeling I should have bought an R for only a couple hundred more. I am not dead against the clubsport as it looks like a great car, it's more the price V's standard options and Golf R price that stops me getting one.
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I was all up for getting a clubsport a while ago, but the price is so close to an R albeit with a detuned version of the same engine and no 4WD, what exactly are you getting to warrant the price apart from the limited edition factor. If any of the options such as bucket seats, wheels with sports tyres or other options were standard, then it may be a more attractive purchase. But if I had bought a clubsport, I suspect I would have a niggling feeling I should have bought an R for only a couple hundred more. I am not dead against the clubsport as it looks like a great car, it's more the price V's standard options and Golf R price that stops me getting one.
Do what I did, order yourself a discounted Golf R with a big list of options, save around £5-6k and enjoy the top Golf model ;)
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This is exactly what I am thinking I will do for my next car. It's like you read my mind. :smiley:
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I was all up for getting a clubsport a while ago, but the price is so close to an R albeit with a detuned version of the same engine and no 4WD, what exactly are you getting to warrant the price apart from the limited edition factor. If any of the options such as bucket seats, wheels with sports tyres or other options were standard, then it may be a more attractive purchase. But if I had bought a clubsport, I suspect I would have a niggling feeling I should have bought an R for only a couple hundred more. I am not dead against the clubsport as it looks like a great car, it's more the price V's standard options and Golf R price that stops me getting one.
Do what I did, order yourself a discounted Golf R with a big list of options, save around £5-6k and enjoy the top Golf model ;)
I am possibly going to order an R on a 2 year lease, just waiting on prices coming through.
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I think VW have lost the plot a little, with the 35/6R there was a decent price difference
Will be interesting to see if they shift 1,000 and what happens on the discount front when they don't
The option cost for the Pilot Sport 2s and 19s made me think it was April 1st
Stunning car, rare car but expensive car
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People who want the R will by the R, people like me who dont like the R's styline, dont want 4WD will by the Clubsport....simples
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People who want the R will by the R, people like me who dont like the R's styline, dont want 4WD will by the Clubsport....simples
I much prefer the look of the clubsport to the R. It's definitely more aggressive which is good in my eyes but and its a big but ... 300hp on tap all the time and 4wd for only £250 more than the clubsport is crazy
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What is the fascination with 4WD? Does anybody on this forum drive their cars (in the wet) so hard the rely on 4WD? I am in the NE Scotland and we can get plenty of snow but wouldn't consider a 4WD car (thats what my wife's S3 is for ;-) )
A well balanced 2WD car is far more rewarding and less likely to get you into trouble ie think the car is uncrashable!
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People who want the R will by the R, people like me who dont like the R's styline, dont want 4WD will by the Clubsport....simples
Correct, Volkswagen will sell them all as the GTI brand has a cult following regardless of price.
The GTI PP is a good package too, having owned one, for me the GTI CS isn't special/unique enough after all it's just a tarted up GTI PP.
For some, the GTI PP with discounts, becomes a very appealing buy instead of the GTI CS.
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People who want the R will by the R, people like me who dont like the R's styline, dont want 4WD will by the Clubsport....simples
Correct, Volkswagen will sell them all as the GTI brand has a cult following regardless of price.
The GTI PP is a good package too, having owned one, for me the GTI CS isn't special/unique enough after all it's just a tarted up GTI PP.
For some, the GTI PP with discounts, becomes a very appealing buy instead of the GTI CS.
Spot on!
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People who want the R will by the R, people like me who dont like the R's styline, dont want 4WD will by the Clubsport....simples
Correct, Volkswagen will sell them all as the GTI brand has a cult following regardless of price.
The GTI PP is a good package too, having owned one, for me the GTI CS isn't special/unique enough after all it's just a tarted up GTI PP.
For some, the GTI PP with discounts, becomes a very appealing buy instead of the GTI CS.
Spot on!
I think it's more the price differential being so small and the fact that it is basically a detuned golf R as well as a tarted up GTI PP as stated above. It just doesn't seem good value for money in my eyes considering the discounts you can get on the R and GTI PP but I do like its looks
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What is the fascination with 4WD? Does anybody on this forum drive their cars (in the wet) so hard the rely on 4WD? I am in the NE Scotland and we can get plenty of snow but wouldn't consider a 4WD car (thats what my wife's S3 is for ;-) )
A well balanced 2WD car is far more rewarding and less likely to get you into trouble ie think the car is uncrashable!
You don't have to drive a FWD hard to reach its limits in the wet, my GTI PP struggles.
The GTI CS has 265-290ps, anything other than dry weather, it's going to prove troublesome even with the VAQ e-diff to get the power down!
The £250 dearer Golf R will sail by and keep on going whereas the GTI just struggles.
The Golf R is already as well balanced car hence why it's done so well in the motoring press/community, people wanting a possible further 5-10% in driver involvement (dry) can but the GTI CS.
People buying the GTI CS are looking for more than outright performance in my opinion, it will appeal to many and it will sell well.
It's not going to outperform the Golf R though as its just a GTI underneath.
I do like the GTI CS looks, it's going to go down well with the motoring press too.
Bottom line, anybody owning a GTI, GTI CS or R should feel happy and proud, these are some of the best modern hatchbacks to date.
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and this is a GTi forum....not an R one ;-)
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and this is a GTi forum....not an R one ;-)
Very true, technically I still own a GTI ;) lol
Once the Golf R arrives I can escape to the R forum lol ;)
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and this is a GTi forum....not an R one ;-)
Very true, technically I still own a GTI ;) lol
Once the Golf R arrives I can escape to the R forum lol ;)
and I'm a GTI owner expressing an opinion :wink:
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Hi Chaps, been a while since I posted on here but have been reviewing the CS comments with interest. Enquired at 2 local dealers over the weekend so will see what they come back with. I understand they are able to do finance quotes from tomorrow.
I am pushing my local VW/Audi group for a price given we have had 3 Audis from them over the last 3 years but I suspect there will be limited discounts.. Quite fancy the CS as a long term keeper / weekend fun car but as many have said, over £30k is really quite steep given there isn't any other bespoke hardware such as Brembo 4 pot brakes, standard recaro seats etc..
That said I like the look of it and agree with comments about the 2wd v 4wd, not everyone wants an R.. I already see way more Rs's than GTI's so a CS will be a rare sight.
Have my name down for a BMW M2 in 2017 as most dealers have only 2 cars per year and the worrying thing for the CS is that the M2 will come in at £10k more which isn't a huge difference given the performance gap etc..
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Coast 2 Coast cars are saying 4% discount.
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sounds about right for loyal customers.. my Audi dealership offered me about 4% off an RS3 when I was considering one and that was as a customer loyalty discount only..
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What is the fascination with 4WD? Does anybody on this forum drive their cars (in the wet) so hard the rely on 4WD? I am in the NE Scotland and we can get plenty of snow but wouldn't consider a 4WD car (thats what my wife's S3 is for ;-) )
A well balanced 2WD car is far more rewarding and less likely to get you into trouble ie think the car is uncrashable!
You don't have to drive like a loon to appreciate the advantages of the R. The GTI 220 struggles with grip and traction at times (especially with Bridgestones).
Driving conditions will have to be nigh-on perfect to take advantage of that 45ps it has over the standard GTI and a bit more on limited boost time, the R's power is more accessible.
The GTI CS is undoubtedly going to be a great car but the R is markedly better for pennies more in RRP and considerably less factoring discount access between the 2 cars. Most people would consider it crazy to be paying more for the (slightly) lesser car.
This has never been an issue in the past, the R/R32/V6 4MOTION/VR6/G60 were always niche cars that weren't competing with the GTI or its anniversary editions on performance or price, now they are.
Will people pay more for a CS down the line over an R? Doubtful unless you went the whole hog with the seats. For most PCPing, that CS will be £100 a month more at minimum due to meagre discounts, a bitter pill to swallow.
Leasegate is long over and still R sales are very strong compared to GTI. The only way the CS makes sense is if the GFV is ridiculously high, like £19k after 3 years.
The R is the new GTI - that's VW's doing with wafer thin price differentials.
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All depends on supply and demand though - if there are 1000 CS's and 5000 people want them they will retain their value and ultimately cost a lot less than an R.
If you look on the AUC website there are plenty of very recent R's with very low mileages going for well under £25k already.
At the end of the day you cant bend the rules of supply and demand and that will dictate total cost of ownership, not the RRP or monthlies via PCP.
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All depends on supply and demand though - if there are 1000 CS's and 5000 people want them they will retain their value and ultimately cost a lot less than an R.
If you look on the AUC website there are plenty of very recent R's with very low mileages going for well under £25k already.
At the end of the day you cant bend the rules of supply and demand and that will dictate total cost of ownership, not the RRP or monthlies via PCP.
The price entry point of the clubsport just doesn't make sense Andy. VW have either overpriced the clubsport or underpriced the R
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^Will VW put their money where their mouth is and give it R busting GFVs?
Demand comes from low supply and desirability, will it be sognificantly more desirable than an R just because it is rare? The bucket seats (if optioned) may well help. To me it's likening comparing a 150TDI GT to a GTD and expecting someone to pay £100 a month for the GT.
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All depends on supply and demand though - if there are 1000 CS's and 5000 people want them they will retain their value and ultimately cost a lot less than an R.
If you look on the AUC website there are plenty of very recent R's with very low mileages going for well under £25k already.
At the end of the day you cant bend the rules of supply and demand and that will dictate total cost of ownership, not the RRP or monthlies via PCP.
The price entry point of the clubsport just doesn't make sense Andy. VW have either overpriced the clubsport or underpriced the R
The R's price is right amongst it's peers, the CS is a couple of grand too expensive considering the likely lack of access to discount and what it's putting out when not on limited boost. The MPG is the shocker for me. The R is pulling a 120kg Haldex unit, putting out more power and is less than 1mpg more thirsty.
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Don't disagree its a very pricey - but then if they don't discount it to sell the allocation, it doesn't really matter if we think its pricey or not, low or no discounts will surely protect future values, regardless of what the pcp GFV says.
Not saying it will achieve BMW 1M status - look at a PCP quote for one of them and its irrelevant given they go for more than list now.. but there might be enough enthusiasts who want one to keep used values strong, or there might not !
That's all unknown for now - I am having a similar ponder about the M2 tbh - its £44k which isn't cheap, and little chance of a discount but will probably hold its value very well due to around 2 cars per dealer per year but its all the land of the unknown.
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All depends on supply and demand though - if there are 1000 CS's and 5000 people want them they will retain their value and ultimately cost a lot less than an R.
If you look on the AUC website there are plenty of very recent R's with very low mileages going for well under £25k already.
At the end of the day you cant bend the rules of supply and demand and that will dictate total cost of ownership, not the RRP or monthlies via PCP.
The price entry point of the clubsport just doesn't make sense Andy. VW have either overpriced the clubsport or underpriced the R
The R's price is right amongst it's peers, the CS is a couple of grand too expensive considering the likely lack of access to discount and what it's putting out when not on limited boost. The MPG is the shocker for me. The R is pulling a 120kg Haldex unit, putting out more power and is less than 1mpg more thirsty.
Bearing in mind the CS is just a Cupra underneath - what is the Cupra's official consumption? I can't check right now as I'm using a phone and the screen is too fiddly and my eyesight is getting sh!t but I know my friend's Cupra did better fuel mileage than my R does despite him being a harder driver. Then again, all he did was motorway work which kind of negates the Haldex anyway as it's steady speed stuff.
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Not wanting to offend anyone but I have found the consumption on most VAG products generally poor - and I have owned plenty both VW and Audi.
On the test route I took before deciding on my 330d (I also drove a GTi PP, Golf R, Audi S3, Audi RS3 and BMW M235i) on the same roads on the same day. I was really disappointed with the Audi S3, GTi and the R which were worse than the M235i and tbh the Audi RS3 wasn't hardly any worse than either GTi or R
Not sure what people get in daily driving but I have found 4 cyl turbo engines from VAG to be generally no better than 6 cyl BMW engines in terms of fuel - but that's just my own experience. Even in diesel land, my 330d with 260 odd BHP does exactly the same daily MPG (45) as my old Audi A3 tdi 170 despite being heavier and 50% bigger engine ?!
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Drisser: I've found BMW diesels to be better on the mpg at an 80mph cruising speed than the current crop of 2.0TDI units too. My old boss' 2007 520D used to do far better than my MK5 170TDI. One thing's for sure - for journeys shorter than 12 miles, the GTD mpg is sh!te unless you're driving like a nun, it's quite respectable on journeys greater than 50 miles in the Summer.
My R is pretty good on fuel considering what's under the bonnet, my 20 mile commute home tonight saw almost 34mpg, almost all of it doing 60-80mph. Driving my GTD just as hard might've seen 48mpg in the current conditions.
If BMW would do a decent looking 1 series i'd consider it. Those chunky sills, the plumber's van side profile and not a particularly looking front or back end put me right off, the 2 series only looks marginally better IMO. The 3/4 series are much better looking, but I have no need for a car of that size and the missus would never drive a car that big. I'd be looking for very big discount on the BMW to buy new, the residuals are generally pretty poor for a German motor - the price of going heavy in the fleet market.
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For the CS to be the same price (pretty much) as the R and feel a bit special as well as reasonable value for money, it should've come with unique 19" wheels, the bucket seats and big Brembo brakes as standard.
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For the CS to be the same price (pretty much) as the R and feel a bit special as well as reasonable value for money, it should've come with unique 19" wheels, the bucket seats and big Brembo brakes as standard.
And a standard 280/290bhp like the Cupra and not a 10-second boost.
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I know I'm going against the trend. I'm convinced now that I want one. Car wow are giving some discount. Took it to my local dealer who said they will look at matching. However they are saying that the car isn't on the finance system so having to go back Tommoro. I am asking for a relatively high spec. Anyone had luck with vw matching?
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I know I'm going against the trend. I'm convinced now that I want one. Car wow are giving some discount. Took it to my local dealer who said they will look at matching. However they are saying that the car isn't on the finance system so having to go back Tommoro. I am asking for a relatively high spec. Anyone had luck with vw matching?
I can't see it listed on carwow??
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For the CS to be the same price (pretty much) as the R and feel a bit special as well as reasonable value for money, it should've come with unique 19" wheels, the bucket seats and big Brembo brakes as standard.
Do agree with this .. Should have been differentiated better with some proper hardware rather than just marketing. I do really like the look of it though but not sure I could bring myself to spend that much on it when I could have a PP Gti for a lot less, or a used one for even less.
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Carfile claim 8% (not on website yet) and £500 loyalty if you have a VW.
Not too bad, but you can't get the £1250 PCP deposit....yet.
If you could with that then I'd be in, but as it is now an R is in the lead.
Dave
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I know I'm going against the trend. I'm convinced now that I want one. Car wow are giving some discount. Took it to my local dealer who said they will look at matching. However they are saying that the car isn't on the finance system so having to go back Tommoro. I am asking for a relatively high spec. Anyone had luck with vw matching?
I can't see it listed on carwow??
Hi. No it isn't on. However I simply speeded up a gti. Then messaged each one so what I really wanted. Most said that they couldn't discount at all.
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I know I'm going against the trend. I'm convinced now that I want one. Car wow are giving some discount. Took it to my local dealer who said they will look at matching. However they are saying that the car isn't on the finance system so having to go back Tommoro. I am asking for a relatively high spec. Anyone had luck with vw matching?
I can't see it listed on carwow??
Hi. No it isn't on. However I simply speeded up a gti. Then messaged each one so what I really wanted. Most said that they couldn't discount at all.
Cunning! What % did you get at best??
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Do what I did, order yourself a discounted Golf R with a big list of options, save around £5-6k and enjoy the top Golf model ;)
When did you order? I have been offered over £8k off list.
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I know I'm going against the trend. I'm convinced now that I want one. Car wow are giving some discount. Took it to my local dealer who said they will look at matching. However they are saying that the car isn't on the finance system so having to go back Tommoro. I am asking for a relatively high spec. Anyone had luck with vw matching?
I can't see it listed on carwow??
Hi. No it isn't on. However I simply speeded up a gti. Then messaged each one so what I really wanted. Most said that they couldn't discount at all.
Cunning! What % did you get at best??
Being offered 6% off. That includes finance contribution.
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So around £3k off. Could be worse!
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I've been told its limited to 1000 cars- can anyone confirm this?
But as many have said already the R + discounts is too tempting at this price range.
Does anybody know when the standard spec of the R will be improved to match the "normal GTI"
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Just had this email from the dealership I have paid a holding deposit to
They have just released the Golf GTI Clubsport for ordering!
There is only 1000 units being produced for the whole of the UK and orders are on a first come first served basis.
I have attached the sales brochure to this email for you to have a look at.
If you would like to place an order, please let me know ASAP before all the build slots are taken.
Best Regards
Compare the price list on standard spec you are looking at 250 difference between r and clubsport. Is it worth it I don't know. By the time you spec seats and pretorias And other items like keyless and you are at over 36k.
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CS is now on carwow. I've submitted a request and will report back with the offers.
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Has anyone been quoted lead times yet ?
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Has anyone been quoted lead times yet ?
Up to 24 weeks when my order went in on Sunday, its on the tracker so will see what comes. Hoping 24 weeks is for the "tail end Charlies"!!
Be very surprised if the brokers get their hands on cars through main dealers at a discount - surely these will sell direct at the dealer?? But if confirmed discount is there please share details ;-)
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From what I've been told there are also restrictions on dealer orders.
Will be very surprised if any do appear on sites like that.
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From what I've been told there are also restrictions on dealer orders.
Will be very surprised if any do appear on sites like that.
Orange wheels have just listed it with approx 12% discount. £3654 off a basic 3 door manual...
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From what I've been told there are also restrictions on dealer orders.
Will be very surprised if any do appear on sites like that.
Orange wheels have just listed it with approx 12% discount. £3654 off a basic 3 door manual...
Discount now reduced to £1!
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If we were to place deposits and say in a months time discounts were available via usual routes, would we be able to cancel and reorder - or would you lose deposit?
BTW not had a single response thus far on Carwow - submitted a quote earlier this morning.
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By the time brokers get back to you all 1000 will be sold!
VW UK will then import more to meet demand if orders exceed 1000 units.
If you seriously want one, be prepared to pay full list price and get your order in ASAP.
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If we were to place deposits and say in a months time discounts were available via usual routes, would we be able to cancel and reorder - or would you lose deposit?
BTW not had a single response thus far on Carwow - submitted a quote earlier this morning.
I suspect you know the answer to that one!
I got a message back saying no local dealers would provide a quote.
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I have just read the description next to the bucket seats on the price list. It states seats are in lieu of Pre-Crash prevention, is this the radar system on the front of the car. Please read below:
‘Clubsport’ cloth seat centre section and Alcantara side bolsters including
heated front sports bucket seats with embroidered ‘GTI’ logo. In lieu of
PreCrash preventive occupant protection and front centre armrest
So to have the bucket seats you lose the centre arm rest console and the PreCrash preventive protection (Radar?) It seems they have bodged the seats to fit as an after thought rather design the layout so they fit properly. However I have seen photos of the same seats in a R400 concept with the centre console remaining intact between the seats. Also does anyone know if you lose the red strip lights in the doors as well if the bucket seats are specified?
On perusing the price list. This would be an expensive car if I were to configure it with the same spec as my current GTi + extras I expected to be standard for the clubsport.
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Am I reading that price list correctly? £33k for a 5 door DSG Clubsport before options? Please tell me people aren't paying those prices?! :shocked:
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Am I reading that price list correctly? £33k for a 5 door DSG Clubsport before options? Please tell me people aren't paying those prices?! :shocked:
Correct, only £250 less than the top of the range Golf R!
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One things for sure, at them prices it will be a rare sight!
I don't see many regular GTI's as it is.
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My purchase is dependant on PCP prices, otherwise fully loaded Golf R or facelift S3 for me! :grin:
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Ed30, Pirelli and Ed35 were all available through brokers, I am sure the CS will be and personally I think they may struggle shifting 1,000 units (great if you buy one
Always the initial rush to have the new shiny thing (did it on my R) and then the deals start to appear.
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Ed30, Pirelli and Ed35 were all available through brokers, I am sure the CS will be and personally I think they may struggle shifting 1,000 units (great if you buy one
Always the initial rush to have the new shiny thing (did it on my R) and then the deals start to appear.
Completely agree.
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I have just read the description next to the bucket seats on the price list. It states seats are in lieu of Pre-Crash prevention, is this the radar system on the front of the car. Please read below:
‘Clubsport’ cloth seat centre section and Alcantara side bolsters including
heated front sports bucket seats with embroidered ‘GTI’ logo. In lieu of
PreCrash preventive occupant protection and front centre armrest
So to have the bucket seats you lose the centre arm rest console and the PreCrash preventive protection (Radar?) It seems they have bodged the seats to fit as an after thought rather design the layout so they fit properly. However I have seen photos of the same seats in a R400 concept with the centre console remaining intact between the seats. Also does anyone know if you lose the red strip lights in the doors as well if the bucket seats are specified?
On perusing the price list. This would be an expensive car if I were to configure it with the same spec as my current GTi + extras I expected to be standard for the clubsport.
Correct, Buckets = No arm rest, no rear air vents, no roller blind cover over centre console, no ambient lighting overhead leds, door top strips and door sills, and no crash prevention system. :undecided:
Dave
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Wth the same options I have currently specced on my GTI PP +Bucket Seats, + DCC I would pay around £37922. However I would get the extended warranty this time as well so you can lump another £500+ on top taking it to near £38.5K.
Out of curiosity I looked in to the top spec I would go for including the Pretoria with semi slick tyres it hit just shy of £40K at £39807 without the 5 year warranty. This is crazy money for a GTI. I have specced a Golf R with virtually all options for less than this. :laugh:
With this in mind, should the Golf R400 ever be released we could be looking at a Golf worth nearly £50K.
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I have just read the description next to the bucket seats on the price list. It states seats are in lieu of Pre-Crash prevention, is this the radar system on the front of the car. Please read below:
‘Clubsport’ cloth seat centre section and Alcantara side bolsters including
heated front sports bucket seats with embroidered ‘GTI’ logo. In lieu of
PreCrash preventive occupant protection and front centre armrest
So to have the bucket seats you lose the centre arm rest console and the PreCrash preventive protection (Radar?) It seems they have bodged the seats to fit as an after thought rather design the layout so they fit properly. However I have seen photos of the same seats in a R400 concept with the centre console remaining intact between the seats. Also does anyone know if you lose the red strip lights in the doors as well if the bucket seats are specified?
On perusing the price list. This would be an expensive car if I were to configure it with the same spec as my current GTi + extras I expected to be standard for the clubsport.
Correct, Buckets = No arm rest, no rear air vents, no roller blind cover over centre console, no ambient lighting overhead leds, door top strips and door sills, and no crash prevention system. :undecided:
Dave
So alot less car for more £££.
On second thoughts defo going to re-think this. Not worth paying this much for what you are getting in MY opinion. I like VWs always have done but do I like em this much.
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I have just read the description next to the bucket seats on the price list. It states seats are in lieu of Pre-Crash prevention, is this the radar system on the front of the car. Please read below:
‘Clubsport’ cloth seat centre section and Alcantara side bolsters including
heated front sports bucket seats with embroidered ‘GTI’ logo. In lieu of
PreCrash preventive occupant protection and front centre armrest
So to have the bucket seats you lose the centre arm rest console and the PreCrash preventive protection (Radar?) It seems they have bodged the seats to fit as an after thought rather design the layout so they fit properly. However I have seen photos of the same seats in a R400 concept with the centre console remaining intact between the seats. Also does anyone know if you lose the red strip lights in the doors as well if the bucket seats are specified?
On perusing the price list. This would be an expensive car if I were to configure it with the same spec as my current GTi + extras I expected to be standard for the clubsport.
PreCrash preventive occupant protection
Could this be seat belt pre tensioners? As the buckets seats have different fixings? And not the city brake or radar intervention that's removed?
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Wth the same options I have currently specced on my GTI PP +Bucket Seats, + DCC I would pay around £37922. However I would get the extended warranty this time as well so you can lump another £500+ on top taking it to near £38.5K.
Out of curiosity I looked in to the top spec I would go for including the Pretoria with semi slick tyres it hit just shy of £40K at £39807 without the 5 year warranty. This is crazy money for a GTI. I have specced a Golf R with virtually all options for less than this. :laugh:
With this in mind, should the Golf R400 ever be released we could be looking at a Golf worth nearly £50K.
When you put it like that, I might just keep my name down for an M2 next year which is £44k and std spec includes pretty much all I would want, a little loyalty discount and it might come in at £42k, makes the CS look outrageous but hey ho, something is worth what anyone wants to pay for it..
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It seems some of comments are that its as high, or higher priced than an R.
Has anyone test driven or thought about getting a Focus RS or Megane Trophy or Trophy R? Just curious as they both appear interesting alternatives. I like the Type R too but it appears its not liked too much among Golf owners, just the same as Type R owners may think the golf box is nothing special to look at, horses for courses
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I have just read the description next to the bucket seats on the price list. It states seats are in lieu of Pre-Crash prevention, is this the radar system on the front of the car. Please read below:
‘Clubsport’ cloth seat centre section and Alcantara side bolsters including
heated front sports bucket seats with embroidered ‘GTI’ logo. In lieu of
PreCrash preventive occupant protection and front centre armrest
So to have the bucket seats you lose the centre arm rest console and the PreCrash preventive protection (Radar?) It seems they have bodged the seats to fit as an after thought rather design the layout so they fit properly. However I have seen photos of the same seats in a R400 concept with the centre console remaining intact between the seats. Also does anyone know if you lose the red strip lights in the doors as well if the bucket seats are specified?
On perusing the price list. This would be an expensive car if I were to configure it with the same spec as my current GTi + extras I expected to be standard for the clubsport.
PreCrash preventive occupant protection
Could this be seat belt pre tensioners? As the buckets seats have different fixings? And not the city brake or radar intervention that's removed?
My thoughts too.
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I have just read the description next to the bucket seats on the price list. It states seats are in lieu of Pre-Crash prevention, is this the radar system on the front of the car. Please read below:
‘Clubsport’ cloth seat centre section and Alcantara side bolsters including
heated front sports bucket seats with embroidered ‘GTI’ logo. In lieu of
PreCrash preventive occupant protection and front centre armrest
So to have the bucket seats you lose the centre arm rest console and the PreCrash preventive protection (Radar?) It seems they have bodged the seats to fit as an after thought rather design the layout so they fit properly. However I have seen photos of the same seats in a R400 concept with the centre console remaining intact between the seats. Also does anyone know if you lose the red strip lights in the doors as well if the bucket seats are specified?
On perusing the price list. This would be an expensive car if I were to configure it with the same spec as my current GTi + extras I expected to be standard for the clubsport.
PreCrash preventive occupant protection
Could this be seat belt pre tensioners? As the buckets seats have different fixings? And not the city brake or radar intervention that's removed?
Has it got adaptive cruise control? Doesn't that use the same radar as the anti collision software?
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It refers to occupant protection so is, as referred to, the seat belt tensioners.
The radar will perform all other functions as normal but there's obviously an issue with the bulk of the buckets and therefore they've sacrificed certain features as previously listed.
If it was a wider production model then there would have maybe been enough sales volume for a factory workaround.
Possibly these features being sacrificed explain why buckets were never an option on the R or GTI.
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Just had this email from the dealership I have paid a holding deposit to
They have just released the Golf GTI Clubsport for ordering!
There is only 1000 units being produced for the whole of the UK and orders are on a first come first served basis.
I have attached the sales brochure to this email for you to have a look at.
If you would like to place an order, please let me know ASAP before all the build slots are taken.
Best Regards
Compare the price list on standard spec you are looking at 250 difference between r and clubsport. Is it worth it I don't know. By the time you spec seats and pretorias And other items like keyless and you are at over 36k.
Got the same email from Matthew myself this morning.
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Just ordered from my local dealer. 5 door. Manual. Carbon Gray. Black Roof. Bucket seats. Car net. Wanted keyless as well but he said he couldn't select the option and that it must be
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Oh and got the parking pack.
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Just ordered from my local dealer. 5 door. Manual. Carbon Gray. Black Roof. Bucket seats. Car net. Wanted keyless as well but he said he couldn't select the option and that it must be standard.
Took the quote from car file from some one called Sarah Cox Cars LTD (website shows a dodgy used car dealer). They then matched the 8% off list and gave me superguard and tank of fuel. Well chuffed with this.
8% off Clubsport RRP??
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Oh and got the parking pack.
Either the brochure has errors in it or your dealer is wrong - parking pack is not available and keyless is not standard.
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Just ordered from my local dealer. 5 door. Manual. Carbon Gray. Black Roof. Bucket seats. Car net. Wanted keyless as well but he said he couldn't select the option and that it must be standard.
Took the quote from car file from some one called Sarah Cox Cars LTD (website shows a dodgy used car dealer). They then matched the 8% off list and gave me superguard and tank of fuel. Well chuffed with this.
8% off Clubsport RRP??
Yep. Well 7.9 to be precise. You all have me doubting it now! I have the order sheet and the description is the right car:
"Volkswagen Golf hatchback special edition 2.0 GTI Clubsport 40 5dr"
Oh and got the parking pack.
Either the brochure has errors in it or your dealer is wrong - parking pack is not available and keyless is not standard.
Well keyless isn't written on it however he said he will ensure that it goes on with the admin dept tommorow and will email me.
In reference to the parking pack. On the order sheet it is written as :
"Parking pack -golf -gtd-gti" at £208.33 ex vat.
Any advice on this would be much appreciated.
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Nice work on the discount, haven't seen anyone claiming to of bagged more.
In terms of the options, I can't offer any advice, just going by the brochure (which may well be wrong):
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Some of standard Golf GTI / R options not included on the GTI CS.
Ambient lighting for example.
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Just ordered from my local dealer. 5 door. Manual. Carbon Gray. Black Roof. Bucket seats. Car net. Wanted keyless as well but he said he couldn't select the option and that it must be standard.
Took the quote from car file from some one called Sarah Cox Cars LTD (website shows a dodgy used car dealer). They then matched the 8% off list and gave me superguard and tank of fuel. Well chuffed with this.
8% off Clubsport RRP??
Yep. Well 7.9 to be precise. You all have me doubting it now! I have the order sheet and the description is the right car:
"Volkswagen Golf hatchback special edition 2.0 GTI Clubsport 40 5dr"
Oh and got the parking pack.
Either the brochure has errors in it or your dealer is wrong - parking pack is not available and keyless is not standard.
Well keyless isn't written on it however he said he will ensure that it goes on with the admin dept tommorow and will email me.
In reference to the parking pack. On the order sheet it is written as :
"Parking pack -golf -gtd-gti" at £208.33 ex vat.
Any advice on this would be much appreciated.
Parking pack is not available on the club sport because it only has rear sensors, there is no options for front, let alone park assist. Rear camera alone is an option though.
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Hmm. Now I am worried.evo- the dealer has picked the option and it shows on my order list as per my previous post. What is likely to happen in this situation?
Wanymygti. Yes I had seen the brochure. But he was adamant that if it could be picked then the factory would build it.
I reference to keyless entry, he should me the brochure which on the Clubsport section says "standard items above gti" from this you would assume that keyless would be standard. It's not very well worded if it isn't.
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I have been off for a few days but back in on Thursday, so will have a play around.
With Keyless if it's not an option on his SLI ordering system then I would hope it's standard however it does clearly state it is an option on the club sport.
I know what he means when it refers to additional spec above a GTI however one should ever assume, especially if it's says it's an option.
Because lots of people will assume you get front sensors on the club sport however we know that you only get rears.
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Thanks. I'm tempted to email and ask him to list the parking pack options seperatley. I don't want to pay for park assist if I can't get it. Also as keyless is an option I may ask for him to list that seperatley as well. What do you think? Thanks for all your help.
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Ordered mine (after a long hard haggle) yesterday, 5th a Dealership that day :smiley:
Be interesting to see how quick the 1000 sell out as going by that, and the fact every dealer gets a demo maybe a 1/3rd of the allocation has been booked already?
If the Mk8 is in production next year, will they have the capacity to bring more to the UK with all other countries as well?.
Dave
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Just ordered from my local dealer. 5 door. Manual. Carbon Gray. Black Roof. Bucket seats. Car net. Wanted keyless as well but he said he couldn't select the option and that it must be standard.
Took the quote from car file from some one called Sarah Cox Cars LTD (website shows a dodgy used car dealer). They then matched the 8% off list and gave me superguard and tank of fuel. Well chuffed with this.
Can't select bucket seats and keyless entry. Antenna not in the alternate center console
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Woohoo...just got an update text...in the factory, stage 2 of 7 :-)
Also aked dealer about 7.9% discount that kitbag mentioned......we'll see.
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Has anyone been given PCP values?
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Just ordered from my local dealer. 5 door. Manual. Carbon Gray. Black Roof. Bucket seats. Car net. Wanted keyless as well but he said he couldn't select the option and that it must be standard.
Took the quote from car file from some one called Sarah Cox Cars LTD (website shows a dodgy used car dealer). They then matched the 8% off list and gave me superguard and tank of fuel. Well chuffed with this.
Can't select bucket seats and keyless entry. Antenna not in the alternate center console
Well I have spoken to my dealer this morning and he will be putting the order I this morning. He says that it has to go through his admin team for an order number at which point he will be able to tell me what is and isn't available. If options aren't there then I hope he gives me the money back!
Woohoo...just got an update text...in the factory, stage 2 of 7 :-)
Also aked dealer about 7.9% discount that kitbag mentioned......we'll see.
Seems like you will be one of the first in the country to get one. Well done😃
Has anyone been given PCP values?
Apparently it's wasn't on the system yet for solutions but will be today. I had to get a pcso quote based on an adjusted gti. Plus point is I may get some more money knocked off if they can give a dealer contribution.
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Woohoo...just got an update text...in the factory, stage 2 of 7 :-)
Also aked dealer about 7.9% discount that kitbag mentioned......we'll see.
Snap!
Would love to go over and pick it up at the factory. Not sure if the collection date will clash with anything at this stage. All a bit tight for the next few months.
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Anybody else managed to get a discount - Apart from Kitbag?
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I mentioned the 7.9% and was told No, each dealer getting 4 cars max and all will be gone soon, as VW apparant adament that they are only make 1000.
Didnt really expect it.
Very well done to Kitbag if you get that!
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I mentioned the 7.9% and was told No, each dealer getting 4 cars max and all will be gone soon, as VW apparant adament that they are only make 1000.
Didnt really expect it.
Very well done to Kitbag if you get that!
Bad news action 😞
This is third golf brought from the same dealer in ten years so I think they are trying to keep me happy. He mentioned something along the lines of moving money in from fleet. Not sure what that meant.
I'm still not home dry until I have my order number tho so not counting my chickens just yet.
Dealer has confirmed that I can't get parking pack and will reduce the price accordingly. Just getting he reversing camera now. Was t too sure about the other parking assist thing anyway.
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Woohoo...just got an update text...in the factory, stage 2 of 7 :-)
Also aked dealer about 7.9% discount that kitbag mentioned......we'll see.
Is stage 2 when you get your build date?
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Anybody else managed to get a discount - Apart from Kitbag?
I have been offered a discount as sorts. It is through a dealer network that my brother buys his Audi cars from that have also got VW dealerships. They way they told him that they would do it is by giving an extra 3k trade in for my wife's GTi
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Woohoo...just got an update text...in the factory, stage 2 of 7 :-)
Also aked dealer about 7.9% discount that kitbag mentioned......we'll see.
Is stage 2 when you get your build date?
Stage 2 is "Order with Factory"...dealer told me preliminary build week is 35 :-o (August) but hopefully when confirmed its quicker than that!
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Woohoo...just got an update text...in the factory, stage 2 of 7 :-)
Also aked dealer about 7.9% discount that kitbag mentioned......we'll see.
Is stage 2 when you get your build date?
Stage 2 is "Order with Factory"...dealer told me preliminary build week is 35 :-o (August) but hopefully when confirmed its quicker than that!
66 plate and September pick up then hopefully 👍
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Anybody else managed to get a discount - Apart from Kitbag?
Yep, but took some doing.
Dave
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August .... Mine better not be that long.
I will cancel and buy something else. Thive pissed about with this car too much to wait another 5/6 months
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August .... Mine better not be that long.
I will cancel and buy something else. Thive pissed about with this car too much to wait another 5/6 months
It clearly said up to 24 weeks lead time in the dealership bulletin Lee posted up
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WRT To discount
I tried CarWow...base model, then one specced to my build...had 4 offers on each build from VW Dealers, all with £0 discount.
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Configurator for GTI clubsport is just being put on to the VW website now. At present you can select the clubsport as configurator but the options are still standard GTI . Give it a couple hours and maybe it will be working properly with correct options for clubsport. :smiley:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure)
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Just noticed that even with the standard non-bucket seats on a 5 door, you loose the front centre arm rest... thats crap
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But the sliding cover for the cup holders on the centre console remains intact... :smiley:
Also I though the upholstery on the standard seats was the same pattern as the buckets. At least I thought they were last time I checked the German VW website. The plain black seats look very close to the Golf R seats.
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Well things aren't going so well for me. After offering me the discount and paying £1000 deposit I haven't had the order as promised and no contact from the dealer despite him saying he would be in contact.
Not happy.
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Well things aren't going so well for me. After offering me the discount and paying £1000 deposit I haven't had the order as promised and no contact from the dealer despite him saying he would be in contact.
Not happy.
So they have gone back on their offer of 8%?
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Well things aren't going so well for me. After offering me the discount and paying £1000 deposit I haven't had the order as promised and no contact from the dealer despite him saying he would be in contact.
Not happy.
So they have gone back on their offer of 8%?
I don't know. I hope not.
What I am saying is that I placed my deposit on Tuesday evening to be told I'd get an order code and a call on Wednesday. I Haven't had a call or email and he isn't returning my call now. Surely a main dealer can't operate this way!
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Are you sure he is in? If he works weekends he probably gets odd midweek days off?
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He's probably been downgraded to car washing when his boss found out he'd agreed to 8% discount on a limited edition car :laugh: :laugh:
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Looks like I spoke too soon. He has emailed, apologised and said he was in meetings all day.
He says the car will come with keyless as standard!? (Even though I have asked for buckets) and will call me in the morning. The story continues ........
Anyone else know if keyless is standard. If it is then why list it as an option?
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Option, on 5 door only. At least what I can read,
Wanted it, but mines 3 door and you cant have it/
Dave
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Congrats to those who have ordered. I've asked for a quote the guy I'm dealing with is going on holiday tomorrow and emailed to say they can't generate a finance quote as the system will not let them.
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Option, on 5 door only. At least what I can read,
Wanted it, but mines 3 door and you cant have it/
Dave
Well I have ordered a 5 door but read on here that it couldn't be combined with the bucket seats.
Will find out more tommorow I'm sure.
You may not get keyless but cs should be in 3 door. Did you go for the black roof?
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No, would have if White, but I have gone Carbon, so didn't bother.
Refused really too, as £295 for the black roof is a rip off.
Dave
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Have gone for carbon grey as well but with the black roof.
I agree that prices for this are crazy. Although it is a no cost option on the configurator at the moment. Another example of brilliant VW admin. Have you gone for he bucket seats?
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I only paid £10 for my black roof.
Reckon the robot in the spray booth is working cash in hand.
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Have gone for carbon grey as well but with the black roof.
I agree that prices for this are crazy. Although it is a no cost option on the configurator at the moment. Another example of brilliant VW admin. Have you gone for he bucket seats?
No as they was too much for me also :shocked:, and its a road car after all, I have a race with carbon bucket for trackwork :wink:
Basic 3 door, carbon steel and winter pack
Got a good deal though, 7% and guaranteed p/x which I was very pleased with through loyalty.
How come £10 for roof LRW?
Dave
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It was "only" a tenner with Oryx. :cry:
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No as they was too much for me also :shocked:, and its a road car after all, I have a race with carbon bucket for trackwork :wink:
Basic 3 door, carbon steel and winter pack
Got a good deal though, 7% and guaranteed p/x which I was very pleased with through loyalty.
How come £10 for roof LRW?
Dave
What do you mean "through loyalty." Ta.
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Can anyone confirm if the order sheet after deposit holds any weight and if the dealer would ever renege on the offer?
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No as they was too much for me also :shocked:, and its a road car after all, I have a race with carbon bucket for trackwork :wink:
Basic 3 door, carbon steel and winter pack
Got a good deal though, 7% and guaranteed p/x which I was very pleased with through loyalty.
How come £10 for roof LRW?
Dave
What do you mean "through loyalty." Ta.
This is 5th GTi ordered in 12 years from them, so that's kind of loyal.
Dave
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No as they was too much for me also :shocked:, and its a road car after all, I have a race with carbon bucket for trackwork :wink:
Basic 3 door, carbon steel and winter pack
Got a good deal though, 7% and guaranteed p/x which I was very pleased with through loyalty.
How come £10 for roof LRW?
Dave
What do you mean "through loyalty." Ta.
This is 5th GTi ordered in 12 years from them, so that's kind of loyal.
Dave
Ah right, good to see loyalty rewarded. Congrats on your purchase by the way, I'm sure it will be worth the wait!
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Right can anyone tell me how long their dealers are taking to go from deposit to order number? Placed my deposit down Tuesday and despite reassurances, i still have no order tracking number. :angry:
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Right can anyone tell me how long their dealers are taking to go from deposit to order number? Placed my deposit down Tuesday and despite reassurances, i still have no order tracking number. :angry:
I had my Golf R order number the day after I signed on the dotted line.
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Does anyone know why they would want to purposely delay this? Could it be different budgets? The dealer maintains that it is with VWs admin team (whoever they are) to put the order through. Does this sound correct?
I got on well with the salesman but if this carries on i am tempted to complain to his manager.
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Congrats to those who have ordered. I've asked for a quote the guy I'm dealing with is going on holiday tomorrow and emailed to say they can't generate a finance quote as the system will not let them.
Do you mean Matthew? Isn't he going over for the Tiguan launch around now.
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I see the PCP deals are on the configurator now.
£3k deposit 5k per annum over 48months is under £400 a month with £1250 dealer contribution.
Thats actually not that bad.
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I see the PCP deals are on the configurator now.
£3k deposit 5k per annum over 48months is under £400 a month with £1250 dealer contribution.
Thats actually not that bad.
When I looked earlier it had the same GFV as the normal GTI so I'd not trust the website too much just yet
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I see the PCP deals are on the configurator now.
£3k deposit 5k per annum over 48months is under £400 a month with £1250 dealer contribution.
Thats actually not that bad.
For reference....
I'm paying £404pm for a highly specced Golf R 5dr DSG - PCP over 48 months with 8k miles pa
£2000 cash deposit
£3000+ from my GTI part exchange
£1250 dealer contribution
:)
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Congrats to those who have ordered. I've asked for a quote the guy I'm dealing with is going on holiday tomorrow and emailed to say they can't generate a finance quote as the system will not let them.
Do you mean Matthew? Isn't he going over for the Tiguan launch around now.
Yes. The email to me suggested 10 day leave either way I bet I don't get a call in his absence
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Congrats to those who have ordered. I've asked for a quote the guy I'm dealing with is going on holiday tomorrow and emailed to say they can't generate a finance quote as the system will not let them.
Do you mean Matthew? Isn't he going over for the Tiguan launch around now.
Yes. The email to me suggested 10 day leave either way I bet I don't get a call in his absence
I wanted to have a word with him today, now I'm going to have to deal with someone else there and I'm sure having dealt with them you can see my reservations, Matthew was the only one there that seemed to know what he was talking about.
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I see the PCP deals are on the configurator now.
£3k deposit 5k per annum over 48months is under £400 a month with £1250 dealer contribution.
Thats actually not that bad.
For reference....
I'm paying £404pm for a highly specced Golf R 5dr DSG - PCP over 48 months with 8k miles pa
£2000 cash deposit
£3000+ from my GTI part exchange
£1250 dealer contribution
:)
£3k for a 2014 GTi?? 😳
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I see the PCP deals are on the configurator now.
£3k deposit 5k per annum over 48months is under £400 a month with £1250 dealer contribution.
Thats actually not that bad.
For reference....
I'm paying £404pm for a highly specced Golf R 5dr DSG - PCP over 48 months with 8k miles pa
£2000 cash deposit
£3000+ from my GTI part exchange
£1250 dealer contribution
:)
£3k for a 2014 GTi?? 😳
lol it's still on PCP so not got much equity in it ;)
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Oh right! Was going to offer you £3200 for it!
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Congrats to those who have ordered. I've asked for a quote the guy I'm dealing with is going on holiday tomorrow and emailed to say they can't generate a finance quote as the system will not let them.
Do you mean Matthew? Isn't he going over for the Tiguan launch around now.
Yes. The email to me suggested 10 day leave either way I bet I don't get a call in his absence
I wanted to have a word with him today, now I'm going to have to deal with someone else there and I'm sure having dealt with them you can see my reservations, Matthew was the only one there that seemed to know what he was talking about.
Tell me about it. Poor customer service.
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Congrats to those who have ordered. I've asked for a quote the guy I'm dealing with is going on holiday tomorrow and emailed to say they can't generate a finance quote as the system will not let them.
Do you mean Matthew? Isn't he going over for the Tiguan launch around now.
Yes. The email to me suggested 10 day leave either way I bet I don't get a call in his absence
I wanted to have a word with him today, now I'm going to have to deal with someone else there and I'm sure having dealt with them you can see my reservations, Matthew was the only one there that seemed to know what he was talking about.
Tell me about it. Poor customer service.
Absolutely shocking customer service.
Makes no difference now as I have gave notice to cancel my order. We have decided to change the way we were going and instead of getting two cars and possibly a Clubsport we are putting the money mainly into one car and the rest into a fun car.
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FairPlay mk7. Do you know what you will be getting
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FairPlay mk7. Do you know what you will be getting
Mercedes CLS shooting brake.
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It's a small world, I've just got back from the local Mercedes dealer.
If my build is going to be August I'm more than likely going to cancel and buy a Mercedes A Class.
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Looked at A class last week too, before buying Clubsport.
Only other option we considered.
You get a lot of kit for the money, not too sure on looks however.
What spec you considering?
I couldn't stretch to the A45 but would have liked the A250 AMG.
Dave
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I'm looking at the a45.
I'm not too sure though. It seems the car has the legs but can't get round corners. Tiff drove the old one and slated it for understeer.
I don't really want flappy paddle either. Reviews say it's not really a drivers car.
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I'm looking at the a45.
I'm not too sure though. It seems the car has the legs but can't get round corners. Tiff drove the old one and slated it for understeer.
I don't really want flappy paddle either. Reviews say it's not really a drivers car.
Yeah I have had reports of that as well. Great noise and looks nice though.
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Production week now brought forward to......34, a weeks improvement. Should be in UK for mid Sept. :laugh:
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Finally got my order number. 4 days after laying my deposit! :smiley:
Had an interesting chat with the business manager. Finance website was bowing 1250 deposit contribution however their system doesn't allow it and their policy is not to give it. I complained and he went to his manager. They will now honour this! This is on top of my 7.9%. I am happy.
Although noting is ever that easy. As I have to Change options I still haven't got a final price. Of well time will tell.
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Got my order number now too, 6x days after paying deposit.
Never seen a Urano Grey GTi before, so thought this was interesting.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/mF4AAOSwgApXC-aC/$/$_57.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/mpMAAOSwgApXC-aR/$/$_57.JPG)
Dave
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Reminds me of Atlas Grey.
Would be my choice if I was allowed to make one :cry:
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Must say that looks nice. Similar to csg. There almost seems to be a bluish tint sometimes to csg though which I like.
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Looked at A class last week too, before buying Clubsport.
Only other option we considered.
You get a lot of kit for the money, not too sure on looks however.
What spec you considering?
I couldn't stretch to the A45 but would have liked the A250 AMG.
Dave
Like the looks of the A class especially the AMG but having sat in a few now, the claustrophobic nature of the interior and seemingly poor all round visibility left me feeling quite uncomfortable, the door sides are just so high that the windows feel half the size of the Golf.
Liked the seats and the cockpit in front of me too, except for the main feature of that bolt on media screen, which for me really spoils the aesthetics,
Never thought to get one based on cabin experience but apparently in most reviews you see the ride is exceptionally hard and again not something want to go back to in my old age, like relatively firm ride in sport but nice and cushioned in my day to day running around.
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Reminds me of Atlas Grey.
Would be my choice if I was allowed to make one :cry:
Not sure what the Audi grey is called that saw at weekend, but it was a completely matte finish and was really lovely, maybe a special paint?
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^Nardo grey most likely, seen an RS3 in it last Summer in Berlin.
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Looked at A class last week too, before buying Clubsport.
Only other option we considered.
You get a lot of kit for the money, not too sure on looks however.
What spec you considering?
I couldn't stretch to the A45 but would have liked the A250 AMG.
Dave
Like the looks of the A class especially the AMG but having sat in a few now, the claustrophobic nature of the interior and seemingly poor all round visibility left me feeling quite uncomfortable, the door sides are just so high that the windows feel half the size of the Golf.
Liked the seats and the cockpit in front of me too, except for the main feature of that bolt on media screen, which for me really spoils the aesthetics,
Never thought to get one based on cabin experience but apparently in most reviews you see the ride is exceptionally hard and again not something want to go back to in my old age, like relatively firm ride in sport but nice and cushioned in my day to day running around.
We looked long and hard at the A class too - test drove it 3 times in fact before ordering a GTI. We had exactly the same feelings as you - we loved the looks but really disliked being in it. It was dark and claustrophobic and incredibly unrefined at anything close to motorway speeds.
We're still drawn in by the looks so may even re-visit it in a few years once the Golf is up but looking forward to enjoying this for the time being!
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Just to wet the appetite of those that are waiting I just found this
http://youtu.be/STyDuEKIexo
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I wonder when the Mrs will start talking to me again if I over-rule her on colour choice to the Grey?
Looks spot on.
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Great find, Glad I went 3 Door Carbon now.
Would have had white but the black side stripe just did not do it for me. Graphics are ok on the Race Car, but Road car is another matter IMO.
In Carbon they are just subtle.
Dave
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You'll hate mine then Dave,
Going to stick Norfolk Egg down the side in foot high lettering. Every little helps as they say :wink:
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You'll hate mine then Dave,
Going to stick Norfolk Egg down the side in foot high lettering. Every little helps as they say :wink:
Really? :grin:
Something different, but I'm guessing its not just your daily driver, your company too?
Only stickered car I drive here (my employer)
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Dave
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Love it!
Is that one of the original 220 Cup cars?
Which championship are you running it in this year?
In reality I'm not "allowed" to put the smallest LRWmotorsport sticker on it anywhere let alone my mate's company.
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Love it!
Is that one of the original 220 Cup cars?
Which championship are you running it in this year?
In reality I'm not "allowed" to put the smallest LRWmotorsport sticker on it anywhere let alone my mate's company.
Yes its one of the original 35, not racing this year, but plenty of track days as I'm re-building a couple more at present.
Did I see you are using your Clubsport as the pace car? Is that for the GTi series?
Dave
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Yes for Production GTI.
Will only be for the final rounds with the estimated delivery time.
Doing a couple of rounds in a BARC Silhouette this season and running a couple of Golfs but getting itchy feet already with the Golf might blow the dust off mine for a couple of rounds.
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Sounds great to have the Clubsport doing that,
Will have to try and meet up at one of the rounds.
Dave
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Definitely!
Will wangle some tickets on the gate for you. :grin:
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Just did a CarWow quote on the 3 door CS and one dealer came back with a 9.7% discount, August delivery.
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Definitely!
Will wangle some tickets on the gate for you. :grin:
:rolleyes: Thanks for that
Dave
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Maybe something interesting coming to Wothersee?
Clubsport S "proper" track edition?
(https://nuerburgringdotme.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/img_3434.jpg)
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Dave
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That's one way to pee off customers, announce a Clubsport S!
If it's the Golf R with the CS bodywork I would be pee'd off too, lol.
Hopefully it's just a one off.
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I've seen talk of this online but I think it's super limited, like 100 in total.
Incidentally, are we still able to spec the Prets? The configurator app doesn't give the option.
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Prets was on the other day. Do you get DCC with the prets as a package?
Dave
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I've seen talk of this online but I think it's super limited, like 100 in total.
Incidentally, are we still able to spec the Prets? The configurator app doesn't give the option.
My bad - they're on there now. Has anyone ticked the £2.5k box??
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Prets was on the other day. Do you get DCC with the prets as a package?
Dave
Good news today....
Pretoria alloys with semi slick tyres option comes with DCC
15 April 2016
Extra technology included with alloys option
VW0493-16
Golf GTI Clubsport customers who choose 19-inch Pretoria alloys in black or grey with the semi slick tyres receive Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) together for the previously-advertised price of £2,480.
This was not included in the description on the launch documents. Make sure your customers are aware.
Note this does not apply when adding the optional 19-inch Pretoria alloys to a Golf R or Golf R Estate.
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That goes some way towards explaining the price.
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Been offered a clubsport via car wow with 9.7%
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Been offered a clubsport via car wow with 9.7%
From which dealer??
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Just did a CarWow quote on the 3 door CS and one dealer came back with a 9.7% discount, August delivery.
I've just had 5 quotes back and only one offered any discount and that was 3.7%
Last week 2 of the 5 offered 3.7%
Can you pm me who that dealer was please?
I am in Birmingham too so if there is a regional thing going we should be the same.
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I've seen talk of this online but I think it's super limited, like 100 in total.
Incidentally, are we still able to spec the Prets? The configurator app doesn't give the option.
My bad - they're on there now. Has anyone ticked the £2.5k box??
What a waste of money, and they don't even give you the standard wheels and tyres as well!
If you are selecting these tyres you are going to use it as a track car and if you are buying a track car it's unlikely to be a £33000+ Golf.
It's almost like VW are trying to tell you it's a track day car by giving these an option even though the brakes will catch fire after 2 laps - I've just worked it out - more corner grip on Cup tyres = less use of the brakes - GENIUS!
Surprised they don't fit it with one of those fabric tow hooks as seen on slammed Corsas.
(and yet I still want one :drool: )
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I've been offered 4.8% but nothing anywhere near approaching 10%..
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I've seen talk of this online but I think it's super limited, like 100 in total.
Incidentally, are we still able to spec the Prets? The configurator app doesn't give the option.
My bad - they're on there now. Has anyone ticked the £2.5k box??
What a waste of money, and they don't even give you the standard wheels and tyres as well!
If you are selecting these tyres you are going to use it as a track car and if you are buying a track car it's unlikely to be a £33000+ Golf.
It's almost like VW are trying to tell you it's a track day car by giving these an option even though the brakes will catch fire after 2 laps - I've just worked it out - more corner grip on Cup tyres = less use of the brakes - GENIUS!
Surprised they don't fit it with one of those fabric tow hooks as seen on slammed Corsas.
(and yet I still want one :drool: )
So your R experiences haven't put you off mk7 Golfs then Andrew? :lipsrsealed:
Or is this to be mothballed and put away for your pension fund? :laugh:
It'll certainly be interesting to hear your thoughts on a CS once you've driven/owned one with your vast experience of different performance VW's/Audis/SEATs etc
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Been offered a clubsport via car wow with 9.7%
From which dealer??
One in Plymouth. The rest offered no discount. Called and left a message for the lady but no call back as yet
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So your R experiences haven't put you off mk7 Golfs then Andrew? :lipsrsealed:
Or is this to be mothballed and put away for your pension fund? :laugh:
It'll certainly be interesting to hear your thoughts on a CS once you've driven/owned one with your vast experience of different performance VW's/Audis/SEATs etc
Let's just say I will be choosing a colour that hides scratches and chips better than Lapiz Blue :wink:
Going by the Mk1 GTI's slow appreciation in value, I will be dead before the GTI Clubsport starts to become a useful pension fund. There a better cars to invest in in the longer term, the CS may appreciate a bit but it will drop to probably 30% of new value before it starts to go the other way.
The BMW 1M was a similar philosophy to the CS (no previous Anniversary/Edition x models have such a skunkworks feel about them) but they only imported 450 1Ms and the brand has a far stronger motorsport heritage which is key to investment potential - I just looked and one with 7 miles on the clock is up at £75000! In a collection, a 1M will look right, I just can't see that for a humble Golf but I guess it depends how many they sell.
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Been offered a clubsport via car wow with 9.7%
From which dealer??
One in Plymouth. The rest offered no discount. Called and left a message for the lady but no call back as yet
I have also been offered 9.7% from them.
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So your R experiences haven't put you off mk7 Golfs then Andrew? :lipsrsealed:
Or is this to be mothballed and put away for your pension fund? :laugh:
It'll certainly be interesting to hear your thoughts on a CS once you've driven/owned one with your vast experience of different performance VW's/Audis/SEATs etc
Let's just say I will be choosing a colour that hides scratches and chips better than Lapiz Blue :wink:
Going by the Mk1 GTI's slow appreciation in value, I will be dead before the GTI Clubsport starts to become a useful pension fund. There a better cars to invest in in the longer term, the CS may appreciate a bit but it will drop to probably 30% of new value before it starts to go the other way.
The BMW 1M was a similar philosophy to the CS (no previous Anniversary/Edition x models have such a skunkworks feel about them) but they only imported 450 1Ms and the brand has a far stronger motorsport heritage which is key to investment potential - I just looked and one with 7 miles on the clock is up at £75000! In a collection, a 1M will look right, I just can't see that for a humble Golf but I guess it depends how many they sell.
After not having seen a 1M for a long time I saw two yesterday. Still can't get over how ugly they are (like most small BMWs) but indeed they are good investments. It's good to see them out on the roads though rather than sat in some fat collectors air conditioned barn.
Still I'm just a conditioned saloon car hater having grown up in the 70's and 80's I learned to despise saloon cars as they were just everywhere - as was brown and orange wallpaper with makes me gag to this day.
The mk1 Golf was a breath of fresh air to me when I was a kid and awakened my interest in cars when a neighbour bought a Campaign model back in 1983/4.
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CLUBSPORT S
Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.
However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.
The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.
Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.
Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.
“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.
The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.
Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.
In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.
A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.
Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.
If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.
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Where can I find this £29k clubsport they talk about...?
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Great info, thanks, was trying to find out more after seeing the pics in the Nurburgring historic paddock
CLUBSPORT S
Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.
However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.
The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.
Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.
Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.
“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.
The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.
Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.
In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.
A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.
Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.
If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.
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CLUBSPORT S
Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.
However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.
The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.
Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.
Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.
“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.
The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.
Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.
In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.
A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.
Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.
If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.
Now *that* would be collectable.
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CLUBSPORT S
Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.
However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.
The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.
Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.
Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.
“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.
The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.
Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.
In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.
A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.
Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.
If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.
Now *that* would be collectable.
Yup, bet the price will be more like £40k+ with probably all being LHD. Similar to the VW Beetle RSi and Audi A1 Quattro.
I'd be pretty cheesed off if they did make it though, a proper Clubsport as apposed to a tarted up GTI PP.
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Where can I find this £29k clubsport they talk about...?
+VAT
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Where can I find this £29k clubsport they talk about...?
+VAT
Ha!!
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The fact they have considered the existence of the CS-S, just shows what a marketing exercise the regular CS 40 year "special edition" is.
With the slightly lower weight & full time power advantage, the CS-S is everything the CS should have been in the first place.
If this is announced and actually produced in micro numbers I will try to get one via Europe, assuming they will all be Lhd only.
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To anyone who has ordered the CS: Did you have problems with finance quotations? I have been told I can finally get my figure tomorrow as it has come on the computer today. I suspect they may have been waiting for this before sending the order to the factory.
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VWFS announced residual value and APR rate last Thursday according to my source.
All info should be accessible to dealers by now.
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Thanks, perhaps just my dealer being a little slow. I just hope it doesn't delay the order going to factory.
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Edition 40 PCP quotes are available on the VW website.
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Those who have ordered the CS, can you advise on the delivery date (or build week) you have been quoted?
I have Week 34 confirmed ut got a quote from another dealer of 12-16weeks which is week 32 at worst?
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Was estimated 18 weeks for me which works out 31/32 so about the same.
Not had anything confirmed on the tracker though.
Bit of a duff week for me as I'm out of the country.
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Was estimated 18 weeks for me which works out 31/32 so about the same.
Not had anything confirmed on the tracker though.
Bit of a duff week for me as I'm out of the country.
Did you get a discount?
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There was a little bit of movement but didn't labor the point too much.
We'd made the decision long back to go for the car, anything off was a bonus.
My understanding is that dealers offering discounts are doing so at their own discretion as this will be out of their margin.
I've been playing around on some of the online sites and have been given some heavily discounted offers. I'd really like to know what happens with some of these when it comes to crunch time.
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There was a little bit of movement but didn't labor the point too much.
We'd made the decision long back to go for the car, anything off was a bonus.
My understanding is that dealers offering discounts are doing so at their own discretion as this will be out of their margin.
I've been playing around on some of the online sites and have been given some heavily discounted offers. I'd really like to know what happens with some of these when it comes to crunch time.
That is excalty where I am at, confirmed build week with no discount vs a quote of more than £3K off and estimated delivery...
Anybody out there with a dicounted deal got a confirmed build week?
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There was a little bit of movement but didn't labor the point too much.
We'd made the decision long back to go for the car, anything off was a bonus.
My understanding is that dealers offering discounts are doing so at their own discretion as this will be out of their margin.
I've been playing around on some of the online sites and have been given some heavily discounted offers. I'd really like to know what happens with some of these when it comes to crunch time.
That is excalty where I am at, confirmed build week with no discount vs a quote of more than £3K off and estimated delivery...
Anybody out there with a dicounted deal got a confirmed build week?
Discounted deal, yes, but order still at factory on the tracker.
I am expecting to get a build week by end of this week, as it moved to with Factory end of last week.
Dave
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Got a quote from my dealer not willing to discount on a 2500 deposit on 6000 miles a year not adding any equity (ha ha if any) on my GTD monthlies work out at small 540 a month.
No friggin way. I can have an M3 on lease for that. Still waiting on Plymouth to get back to me
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Got a quote from my dealer not willing to discount on a 2500 deposit on 6000 miles a year not adding any equity (ha ha if any) on my GTD monthlies work out at small 540 a month.
No friggin way. I can have an M3 on lease for that. Still waiting on Plymouth to get back to me
Fcuk, that is ridiculous. There are a lot of cars that are better and cheaper than that. One of them is even a Golf :whistle: Granted it might not be as rare but it would be quicker and with the money saved you could buy more petrol to drive it more.
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Got a quote from my dealer not willing to discount on a 2500 deposit on 6000 miles a year not adding any equity (ha ha if any) on my GTD monthlies work out at small 540 a month.
No friggin way. I can have an M3 on lease for that. Still waiting on Plymouth to get back to me
Fcuk, that is ridiculous. There are a lot of cars that are better and cheaper than that. One of them is even a Golf :whistle: Granted it might not be as rare but it would be quicker and with the money saved you could buy more petrol to drive it more.
Yep that's I thought when I saw the price and repayments.
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Plymouth not honouring that 9.7% discount, they made a mistake :rolleyes:
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Plymouth not honouring that 9.7% discount, they made a mistake :rolleyes:
That's terrible. What reason did the give? They offer you something close?
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Sorry to hear that.
I dont think you will be the only person disappointed by dealers who have made promises without looking into things properly.
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Plymouth not honouring that 9.7% discount, they made a mistake :rolleyes:
That's terrible. What reason did the give? They offer you something close?
Just said they made a mistake and go through Car Wow again and reconfigure the car, heard nothing more.
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I have a quote from Sinclairs in Cardiff for 3K off £34K spec, anyone used them before?
Can get my deposit back of original dealer...but now drifting towards a 718 Boxster (bit of a curve ball)
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Plymouth not honouring that 9.7% discount, they made a mistake :rolleyes:
I was quoted the same and the comms have died. What's the point in the system if the dealer doesn't honour their quotes??
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I have a quote from Sinclairs in Cardiff for 3K off £34K spec, anyone used them before?
Can get my deposit back of original dealer...but now drifting towards a 718 Boxster (bit of a curve ball)
Yeah I have been thinking of different things when you are getting about 30k for a car. I don't daily drive mine so wanted a more fun car.
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Plymouth VW also reneged on the discount they offered me.
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Plymouth VW also reneged on the discount they offered me.
I don't think dealers should act that way. Did you get order numbers?
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I haven't placed an order, but these prices had me tempted.
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Plymouth not honouring that 9.7% discount, they made a mistake :rolleyes:
I was quoted the same and the comms have died. What's the point in the system if the dealer doesn't honour their quotes??
I had a 9.5% discount offer from Plymouth via carwow , did not follow it up as had dealing with the sales rep before , not impressed
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Plymouth have revised their discount to 3.8% :rolleyes:
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Plymouth have revised their discount to 3.8% :rolleyes:
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That's kind of them , they know how to woo customers 😀
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Looks like VW have been having a crack at the ring
http://www.bridgetogantry.com
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I went via Car Wow with only the VW dealer in Barnsley offering any discount (3.9%).
Track my Order on the VW website is showing stage 1, does anyone know how long before it moves to stage 2?
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Plymouth not honouring that 9.7% discount, they made a mistake :rolleyes:
I was quoted the same and the comms have died. What's the point in the system if the dealer doesn't honour their quotes??
I had a 9.5% discount offer from Plymouth via carwow , did not follow it up as had dealing with the sales rep before , not impressed
Got an email from Lynsey asking that I reconfigure via carwow not bothered.
Going to look at alternatives. With the family growing from 3 to 4 around dec this year going to look at alternatives 330d xdrive is one that is tempting with cheap offers knocking about.
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Got an email from Lynsey asking that I reconfigure via carwow not bothered.
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Same here. Shambles.
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Golf R ;)
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Golf R ;)
I do want an r just not on a PCP may have to try and source a lease but then spending it means it goes through the roof. Catch 22
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
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No, but it's easy enough to use webuyanycar or Wewantanycar to sell a car, and the dealership you are buying from will probably give you a part ex if you ask.
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
Drive the deal are just putting you in contact with a dealer .Find a dealer that accepted business from DTD and contact direct and do a deal. Have a contact in the south East if you want it
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
I was told that they would match the best offer we got from Carcow and DTD and that they would take the wife's Mk6 GTI as a trade against the max deposit(plus money back to us) on on either an R or Clubsport. Have you asked Matthew about trading your car in.
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How about a Tag Monza Edition 40 to go with the clubsport, I am trying to resist
http://www.steffans.co.uk/tag-heuer-mens-special-edition-40-years-of-monza-watch-cr2080-fc6375.html?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=CLX78_bSoMwCFVYo0wodakIPUQ
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
I was told that they would match the best offer we got from Carcow and DTD and that they would take the wife's Mk6 GTI as a trade against the max deposit(plus money back to us) on on either an R or Clubsport. Have you asked Matthew about trading your car in.
Yes but he is still away and they will need me to take in which is no issue
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
I was told that they would match the best offer we got from Carcow and DTD and that they would take the wife's Mk6 GTI as a trade against the max deposit(plus money back to us) on on either an R or Clubsport. Have you asked Matthew about trading your car in.
Yes but he is still away and they will need me to take in which is no issue
He is in work today. He has 4 hand overs tomorrow though so he is busy.
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
I was told that they would match the best offer we got from Carcow and DTD and that they would take the wife's Mk6 GTI as a trade against the max deposit(plus money back to us) on on either an R or Clubsport. Have you asked Matthew about trading your car in.
Yes but he is still away and they will need me to take in which is no issue
He is in work today. He has 4 hand overs tomorrow though so he is busy.
Are you Matthew in disguise?
Specced an R on DTD. Offering 15.99% off list not including the 500 quid contribution.
Capri - that contact would be great.
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The Drive the Deal prices on the R are hard to ignore. Almost £6k off, then VW loyalty discount of £500 on top.
They don't do part ex do they
I was told that they would match the best offer we got from Carcow and DTD and that they would take the wife's Mk6 GTI as a trade against the max deposit(plus money back to us) on on either an R or Clubsport. Have you asked Matthew about trading your car in.
Yes but he is still away and they will need me to take in which is no issue
He is in work today. He has 4 hand overs tomorrow though so he is busy.
Are you Matthew in disguise?
Specced an R on DTD. Offering 15.99% off list not including the 500 quid contribution.
Capri - that contact would be great.
I wish, I wouldn't mind a job selling cars although granted maybe not at the likes of a Citroen dealers. The reason I knew he was back was because I sent him an email the day he left about the cancellation of my order and he got back to me yesterday. In the end it was too late to cancel but I still don't have to take the car.
It all comes down to how my wife is. She had an operation a few weeks ago on her back and is now getting physiotheraphy on it. Not sure how she got so badly hurt in the accident when I got off with just a bit of back and neck pain, two broken toes and a cut on my leg.
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Sad to hear that mate.
My Mrs suffered from torn disc and sciatica after our accident in apr 2010 but it wasn't until late 2010/2011 that the prob started but the private specialist that we saw is insistent that it was a late reaction.
It's not nice to see he struggling but just lives with the pain when it comes up again and has physio. Grateful an operation was required. I really wouldn't want her to have her back operated on its such a delicate area.
Good luck to your Mrs hope all turns out well.
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Sad to hear that mate.
My Mrs suffered from torn disc and sciatica after our accident in apr 2010 but it wasn't until late 2010/2011 that the prob started but the private specialist that we saw is insistent that it was a late reaction.
It's not nice to see he struggling but just lives with the pain when it comes up again and has physio. Grateful an operation was required. I really wouldn't want her to have her back operated on its such a delicate area.
Good luck to your Mrs hope all turns out well.
The bit she complained most about was not being able to get her roots done at the hairdressers. She goes every 3 weeks and finally her neck had improved enough the other day to get it done but she was due to be getting it done the day after the accident so as she said the need outweighed the pain.
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I read the title and thought this topic was about the Clubsport :huh:
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I read the title and thought this topic was about the Clubsport :huh:
Better get back making that mayonnaise to go with the chips then :whistle:
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I assume that the only reason to buy a Clubsport is the look?
As its not as fast as an R? Or am I missing something?
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I assume that the only reason to buy a Clubsport is the look?
As its not as fast as an R? Or am I missing something?
Interior finishing, exterior looks, limited edition, bit lighter without the Haldex kit, stronger residuals.
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I've got an idea about the "which is faster" argument that involves a GTI PP, Clubsport R, a race track, journalist mate and one of these sunday afternoon drivers off the telly box.
Will start a new thread with the info when Ive made a few calls.
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Most of that will depend on the track & tyres.
Brands Indy will be different to Silverstone and fitting Bridgestones vs pilot sport cup 2's will make so much difference to the outcome.
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The track is most likely to be one of the Bedford layouts.
Thought about the tyres last night, should be able to beg/steal/borrow a new set of R888-Rs (or whatever they are called this month) in MK5 Championship size.
Manual v DSG might be another one to try out on the same day.
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Sounds really interesting.
What are the R888-R's like compared to normal r888's?
Dave
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So far only run them in the dry and not noticed a great difference to be honest.
Will interesting to see how consistent they are over a race distance when (or should that be if) the weather warms up a bit. Old R888's were tired after around 4 laps and a bit of understeer used to creep in.
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Hi All.
I had been hoping to get a 40th Anniversary / Club Sport to replace my 2.5 year old Mk7 GTi, but the high price and initial lack of discount put me off.
If anyone is interested there now seems to be a reasonable discount available (for example £4,601 off a 3dr Manual) via Broadspeed.
The lack of Bucket Seats and other standard GTi spec have put me off tbh, will probably wait for the Mk7 FL / Mk8 now.
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I'm in two minds if too add the Buckets to the list.
I have winter pack already, so its £380 off the £1350 as the buckets are heated.....
Not sure, I think its a defining feature of the Clubsport though.
We do use back seat for a 7 year old from time to time, but they do tilt also.
(http://www.golf7gti.com/upload/direct/i_7287_6627_0_37_1461489875_6861.jpg)
I guess most others have spec'd them?
Anyone got a stage 3 confirmed build week yet?
Dave
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I think that having the buckets is a must on the Clubsport, it makes it more appealing than the normal GTI interior however from the look of the photo they don't tilt that much forwards to allow easy access into the back seats :(
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Bucket seats would be a must for me, they are a major part of what makes the Ed40 desirable imho. Also, I think it's what everyone will want when they come onto the used market.
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Bucket seats would be a must for me, they are a major part of what makes the Ed40 desirable imho. Also, I think it's what everyone will want when they come onto the used market.
I have specified them. It differentiates it from the regular GTI and the R. Will likely help with resale as well i would think.
I dont have it confirmed yet but my dealer have told me October, however i suspect they are simply taking the order date and adding six months.
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I took the leather seats. The reason is that I am quite long and if you look at the YouTube movies, you see that the seats aren't very high. I am afraid my head would not be supported (completely), which is not safe and not comfortable. Unfortunatly I was not able to try a model before my order, so I choose the safe option..
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Does anyone know if the buckets are heated as standard?
Price list says they are, brochure and configurator does not.
Dave
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Does anyone know if the buckets are heated as standard?
Price list says they are, brochure and configurator does not.
Dave
I believe they are, down side with the buckets is that you lose the ambient lighting and keyless option - bummer.
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Does anyone know if the buckets are heated as standard?
Price list says they are, brochure and configurator does not.
Dave
I believe they are, down side with the buckets is that you lose the ambient lighting and keyless option - bummer.
And the arm rest I believe.
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I have the cloth option now, which still gives you no ambient lighting option.
So with buckets I would loose the arm rest of course.
I am 99% sure I will go with them, just as long as my dealer confirms they are heated.
Dave
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Does anyone know if the buckets are heated as standard?
Price list says they are, brochure and configurator does not.
Dave
I believe they are, down side with the buckets is that you lose the ambient lighting and keyless option - bummer.
And the arm rest I believe.
And something called "pre-crash"
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Hi All.
If anyone is interested there now seems to be a reasonable discount available (for example £4,601 off a 3dr Manual) via Broadspeed.
Anyone tested the very tempting Broadspeed "informal quote" to see if it's real?
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Re Broadspeed, the web quote is wrong as it includes the deposit contribution which doesn't apply to the Ed40.
However even without that it's around 10% but can believe you pay them around £900 in fees and a main dealer wont match them for a direct sale.
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I think buckets are a must in this car, just as leather Koing seats were in the Mk4 .:R32.
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Anyone got a pic of the standard Quaranta wheels on a real car (ideally a grey one)?
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Latest news on Broadspeed.
Their dealer's allocation has all gone and apparently there wont be any more than the 1000 already allocated to dealers.
So another discount dead end!
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Latest news on Broadspeed.
Their dealer's allocation has all gone and apparently there wont be any more than the 1000 already allocated to dealers.
So another discount dead end!
I have found in the past that Broadspeed don't deliver on the prices advertised. I called them with cash in hand wanting to place an order and never heard back.
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I think buckets are a must in this car, just as leather Koing seats were in the Mk4 .:R32.
Agreed, and I can back that up from when I was selling the two I had.
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I think buckets are a must in this car, just as leather Koing seats were in the Mk4 .:R32.
Agreed, and I can back that up from when I was selling the two I had.
Konigs in Mk4 R32 were standard weren't they?
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I think buckets are a must in this car, just as leather Koing seats were in the Mk4 .:R32.
Agreed, and I can back that up from when I was selling the two I had.
Konigs in Mk4 R32 were standard weren't they?
Yes they were.
Standard = Cloth Konig Bucket Seats
Optional Extra = Leather OR Half leather
The Golf R32 MK4 was rather special in that VW went externally to 3rd parties for most of its part.
H&R springs
Blestien shocks
Seabring exhaust system
Konig Seats
OZ / Ronal alloy wheels
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I think buckets are a must in this car, just as leather Koing seats were in the Mk4 .:R32.
Agreed, and I can back that up from when I was selling the two I had.
Konigs in Mk4 R32 were standard weren't they?
Yes they were.
Standard = Cloth Konig Bucket Seats
Optional Extra = Leather OR Half leather
The Golf R32 MK4 was rather special in that VW went externally to 3rd parties for most of its part.
H&R springs
Blestien shocks
Seabring exhaust system
Konig Seats
OZ / Ronal alloy wheels
Sorry to be a know all but
Standard was vinyl/cloth i.e no leather at all (black/grey)
Options were full black leather and flannel grey alcantara leather.
I just hope the clubsport buckets don't jam against the sun visor when tilted or that the release lever comes off in your hand or that the stitching splits near the airbag or the base goes saggy or the bolsters wear prematurely.
I get what you say about Vw going externally but if you look at even a basic Golf all the parts you mention are bought in from 3rd party suppliers, VW actually make very little themselves.
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The clubsport buckets may hit the visors looking at photos, also looking at the gap between the front seat and rear access it's going to be tight for rear access. Probably due to the buckets not folding forwards a lot due to the bolsters.
I don't get why VW removed the ambient lighting as that's one of the nicest interior touches of the GTI.
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I think buckets are a must in this car, just as leather Koing seats were in the Mk4 .:R32.
Agreed, and I can back that up from when I was selling the two I had.
Konigs in Mk4 R32 were standard weren't they?
Yes they were.
Standard = Cloth Konig Bucket Seats
Optional Extra = Leather OR Half leather
The Golf R32 MK4 was rather special in that VW went externally to 3rd parties for most of its part.
H&R springs
Blestien shocks
Seabring exhaust system
Konig Seats
OZ / Ronal alloy wheels
Sorry to be a know all but
Standard was vinyl/cloth i.e no leather at all (black/grey)
Options were full black leather and flannel grey alcantara leather.
I just hope the clubsport buckets don't jam against the sun visor when tilted or that the release lever comes off in your hand or that the stitching splits near the airbag or the base goes saggy or the bolsters wear prematurely.
I get what you say about Vw going externally but if you look at even a basic Golf all the parts you mention are bought in from 3rd party suppliers, VW actually make very little themselves.
How many sun visor mirrors did you go through, happened twice to me with passengers getting out of the back in a rush.
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I went through zero sun visors as my last Golf R32 was one of the best MK4's in the UK and a bit of a rare find, it only had about 6-8k miles on it when I sold it with FVWSH, it was a 04 plate fully loaded standard example.
Also had the plate R32 WOB.
It's gone but not forgotten, got decent money for it considering most we selling for sub £10k at the time.
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So I added the buckets to my order, as we are led to believe they are heated.
Also interesting MY17 Clubsports get "Easy Entry" buckets, which I guess means they also slide forward on the rail when you lift the recline lever like the standard seats.
Dave
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Golf GTI Clubsport S unveiled at Wörthersee
04 May 2016
Most powerful production Golf GTI packs 310PS engine
GTI fans will get their first look at the Golf GTI Clubsport S at the annual Wörthersee GTI meet today (Wednesday 4 May).
This is following the announcement that the Golf GTI Clubsport S has set a Nurburgring record for the fastest lap time in a front-wheel-drive production car in a time of 7:49:21.
With only 150 to be built for the UK, the Clubsport S will be the rarest Golf GTI in history. Global production will be capped at 400 units.
The Clubsport S builds on the already special Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40, which is the most powerful production Golf GTI.
This car will be available exclusively as a 3-door manual only with a 310PS version of the 2.0 TSI engine.
Important dates
Production – from week 36 2016 to week 49 2016
Product and marketing
Exact price and specification of the Clubsport S is yet to be confirmed, but the car has bucket seats as standard, 19-inch alloys, Dynamic Chassis Control, black roof and will be individually numbered 1 to 400 on a silver coloured plate on the centre console.
Options
No car configurator will be available because on the limited production volume of the Clubsport S. More details will follow when they are confirmed.
This exclusive edition is only available in three colours:
Tornado red
Pure white
Deep black
More details on the Golf GTI Clubsport S will be published when they are available.
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Well this certainly is a limited edition. It will be interesting to see what the motoring press say. I doubt they will wet their pants like they did for the Cayman GT4. Starting to get tempted by a "regular" Clubsport.
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Just found this on YouTube. One to keep all you carbon grey fans going
http://youtu.be/2jODiu9wt60
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Just found this on YouTube. One to keep all you carbon grey fans going
http://youtu.be/2jODiu9wt60
Love the Clubsport and carbon grey but not together. Not enough contrast with the decals. Has to be red, white or silver.
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I'm currently in Germany down near the Austrian border in the mountains, when we picked up our car at Munich (a skoda yeti) there were clubsports everywhere for rental in the avis car park!! Just looked on their website could have had a guaranteed model hire of a clubsport for an extra £300!!
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So I added the buckets to my order, as we are led to believe they are heated.
Also interesting MY17 Clubsports get "Easy Entry" buckets, which I guess means they also slide forward on the rail when you lift the recline lever like the standard seats.
Dave
Looking at this link from recaro, the seats are heated:
https://www.recaro-automotive.com/en/product-areas/original-equipment/products/vw-golf-vii-clubsport/vw-golf-vii-clubsport.html
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Well after having a deposit on the Clubsport since mid last year. I have today cancelled the order.
I'm not really happy that the car still hasn't been built, and they announce the Clubsport S.
I wish you well with your cars, I just hope you start to see them soon.
I collect a new Mercedes A45 next week.
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What a brilliant car, in person it looks amazing and around the track compared to the PP it is seriously impressive:
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(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160505/c8642ad3c6dc720b1184791cc2491671.jpg)
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(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy76/lecluevw/AEBD78C4-BEF4-4030-A073-45695F655BE1_zpshpoepzrt.jpg) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/lecluevw/media/AEBD78C4-BEF4-4030-A073-45695F655BE1_zpshpoepzrt.jpg.html)
(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy76/lecluevw/F7315672-74A4-47B4-B384-3C9F2DE90A64_zpseh1w5kpy.jpg) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/lecluevw/media/F7315672-74A4-47B4-B384-3C9F2DE90A64_zpseh1w5kpy.jpg.html)
(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy76/lecluevw/80B53432-5D4C-4295-BCC2-CFC4C80CED97_zpsxxrnotq9.jpg) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/lecluevw/media/80B53432-5D4C-4295-BCC2-CFC4C80CED97_zpsxxrnotq9.jpg.html)
(http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy76/lecluevw/884BB0F8-65AC-4645-BA4E-E6E5ABE7B94F_zpsqz37tppp.jpg) (http://s779.photobucket.com/user/lecluevw/media/884BB0F8-65AC-4645-BA4E-E6E5ABE7B94F_zpsqz37tppp.jpg.html)
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Anyone got pictures of the standard seats?
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Nice pics Le Clue, good to see the car in all its stages between arriving and hitting the track.
The GTI line up pic looks great :smiley:
(That Scirocco looks good too)
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What a brilliant car, in person it looks amazing and around the track compared to the PP it is seriously impressive:
+1000
First Golf that made me seriously consider it solely on the looks since a long time and guess what, ordered one :drool:
Track reviews and chassis setup is what sealed the deal though as I was after a daily driver that I could occasionally track an have fun around twisty roads without having to replace a million things in the suspension. Oh did I say I also loved the fact it came with the R engine instead of the GTI's?
For someone asking earlier I confirm bucket seats are heated, asked my dealer the other day :whistle:
Loving the white but coming from a white car I went with carbon steel metallic grey precisely to tone down the contrast against the decals and shiny body plastics. It had to convince as our family car and being already more sporty than a usual GTI/R white wouldn't have helped there. Of course looking at it from a close distance it unleashes all its sexiness on you...
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So I added the buckets to my order, as we are led to believe they are heated.
Also interesting MY17 Clubsports get "Easy Entry" buckets, which I guess means they also slide forward on the rail when you lift the recline lever like the standard seats.
Dave
Looking at this link from recaro, the seats are heated:
https://www.recaro-automotive.com/en/product-areas/original-equipment/products/vw-golf-vii-clubsport/vw-golf-vii-clubsport.html
I get the longitudinal, height and back tilt adjustment. What is the fourth feature: backrest adjustment ?
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Lumber?
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Just looked at these on the online finance calculator, seems the GFV is very low, plus the fact they don't come with discount makes the payments pretty high, can anyone who ordered please give me an idea of cost involved
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As someone whos wasted away countless years of their life around racing I tend to calculate weekly grocery shop, clothes, miscellaneous entertainment and bar bills in Tyres.
So for me the cost is:
86 Sets of Tyres in total.
Monthly payment of 1.4 sets, based on a deposit of 7.6 sets.
Drop me a mail and I'll let you know the unit cost.
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Having a GTI PP on order I fancied the red surround wheel caps from the Clubsport and ordered 4.
Got them today , for a Genuine VW part they are shockingly bad! cheap plastic full of scratches inside the packets. I sent them back! Hope the other trim parts are better made on the Clubsport.
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This just came out: http://www.motormag.com.au/reviews/1605/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/ (http://www.motormag.com.au/reviews/1605/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/)
Good news for anyone (like me) that ordered (or plans to order) one primarily for the sorted chassis and extra driver-involvement over its siblings :smiley:
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Just tried to rent a 'guaranteed' Clubsport via AVIS from Munich Airport next month and even though listed, they have to confirm availability within 3 days and just came back and said not available.
Annoyingly they don't say where it is available from for the specified dates either so had to resubmit and still waiting for the second response.
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Do all the edition 40 or is it clubsports have the decal on the side of the door saying clubsport?
Im ordering one myself, Most likely the Carbon Grey
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Volkswizard, you won't get one from Avis I'm afraid. I work for a rental company and they have just cancelled my order for the clubsport and told us that they have had too much intrest from private individuals so Rental companys aren't allowed to buy them. Back to my normal GTI with PP now! :cry:
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Volkswizard, you won't get one from Avis I'm afraid. I work for a rental company and they have just cancelled my order for the clubsport and told us that they have had too much intrest from private individuals so Rental companys aren't allowed to buy them. Back to my normal GTI with PP now! :cry:
I am confused by your message, can you clear up a few points?
When you say they have cancelled your order, is this an order to have them on a rental fleet? If it is, what has this got to with "your" I assume personal GTI PP?
Is the rental company your work for in Germany as my rental is in Germany as stated?
Did you not read the original post by phil1975 on 6/5/16 where he stated that Clubsports are already on the rental fleets?
The most confusing thing however is that I had an email from Avis today and after I changed my collection depot to a different one (and booked via Avis.de not Avis.co.uk) and I now have a confirmed rental for July and it's guaranteed to be a Clubsport.
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In other news, Evo's Dan Prosser is at the Nuerburgring right now testing the Clubsport S
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Do all the edition 40 or is it clubsports have the decal on the side of the door saying clubsport?
Im ordering one myself, Most likely the Carbon Grey
I believe all Clubsports come with the decals as standard, at least there is no option in the Configurator to add/remove them. A plus of carbon steel grey is that it makes the decal very discreet, almost invisible from a distance if subtle looks is your thing.
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Volkswizard, you won't get one from Avis I'm afraid. I work for a rental company and they have just cancelled my order for the clubsport and told us that they have had too much intrest from private individuals so Rental companys aren't allowed to buy them. Back to my normal GTI with PP now! :cry:
I am confused by your message, can you clear up a few points?
When you say they have cancelled your order, is this an order to have them on a rental fleet? If it is, what has this got to with "your" I assume personal GTI PP?
Is the rental company your work for in Germany as my rental is in Germany as stated?
Did you not read the original post by phil1975 on 6/5/16 where he stated that Clubsports are already on the rental fleets?
The most confusing thing however is that I had an email from Avis today and after I changed my collection depot to a different one (and booked via Avis.de not Avis.co.uk) and I now have a confirmed rental for July and it's guaranteed to be a Clubsport.
It might be the UK Rental companys affected then, I ordered mine through my company due to the discount we get.
Regards
Chris
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If you look on Instagram there are a good few photos of what are clearly hire GTI ClubSports from Austria and southern Germany.
It strikes me as a bit odd why VW would supply limited edition cars to hire companies like this when they're supposedly restricting build numbers or production slots. Is there not the demand from customer orders in these countries? If have thought GTIs etc would be really popular in the alpine areas.
I asked a friend who works at the HQ of a hire and leasing company and he said they have no ClubSport orders in and in fact (unusually) don't have that many VW's on the books right now. They seem to have a lot of bmw's on fleet at the moment. He's personally using a 125d which "goes like an express train"
I wonder how many ClubSports will be bought second hand having previously been ex rental cars that were hired in Germany then taken to the 'Ring for a bit of a workout non stop for six months?!!
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If you look on Instagram there are a good few photos of what are clearly hire GTI ClubSports from Austria and southern Germany.
It strikes me as a bit odd why VW would supply limited edition cars to hire companies like this when they're supposedly restricting build numbers or production slots. Is there not the demand from customer orders in these countries? If have thought GTIs etc would be really popular in the alpine areas.
I asked a friend who works at the HQ of a hire and leasing company and he said they have no ClubSport orders in and in fact (unusually) don't have that many VW's on the books right now. They seem to have a lot of bmw's on fleet at the moment. He's personally using a 125d which "goes like an express train"
I wonder how many ClubSports will be bought second hand having previously been ex rental cars that were hired in Germany then taken to the 'Ring for a bit of a workout non stop for six months?!!
According to a sales manager at VW I emailed today all 1000 Clubsports are sold out, both are news to me (the 1000 limit and the fact they are all gone). Of course if VW do what they have done before, the 1000 could be extended.
Re German rental Clubsports, the Germans are very pragmatic and probably would by an R if was same price as Clubsport not least because it has AWD - remember this is a country with a winter tyre programme so these things matter.
Uninsured rental car around the 'ring isn't my idea of fun though :undecided:
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If you look on Instagram there are a good few photos of what are clearly hire GTI ClubSports from Austria and southern Germany.
It strikes me as a bit odd why VW would supply limited edition cars to hire companies like this when they're supposedly restricting build numbers or production slots. Is there not the demand from customer orders in these countries? If have thought GTIs etc would be really popular in the alpine areas.
I asked a friend who works at the HQ of a hire and leasing company and he said they have no ClubSport orders in and in fact (unusually) don't have that many VW's on the books right now. They seem to have a lot of bmw's on fleet at the moment. He's personally using a 125d which "goes like an express train"
I wonder how many ClubSports will be bought second hand having previously been ex rental cars that were hired in Germany then taken to the 'Ring for a bit of a workout non stop for six months?!!
According to a sales manager at VW I emailed today all 1000 Clubsports are sold out, both are news to me (the 1000 limit and the fact they are all gone). Of course if VW do what they have done before, the 1000 could be extended.
Re German rental Clubsports, the Germans are very pragmatic and probably would by an R if was same price as Clubsport not least because it has AWD - remember this is a country with a winter tyre programme so these things matter.
Uninsured rental car around the 'ring isn't my idea of fun though :undecided:
The sales guy at the VW dealer I use is still trying to sell me one. They still have a few in their allotted number.
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Saw a CS in the flesh for the first time this week in the Fatherland.
Really stands out, good bit of kit roll on delivery day (whenever that is....)
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I;ll find out today i guess, my salesman took my order no problems, didnt mention they had sold out.
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Anybody fancy renting one long term?
http://www.stablevehiclecontracts.co.uk/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-edition-40-2.0-tsi-265ps-5-dr?utm_source=Stable+Vehicle+Contracts&utm_campaign=38403a3087-Weekend+Email+10+June&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e593a566f4-38403a3087-287135417
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Anyone expressed an interest for a Clubsport S with their dealer?
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Anyone know the relation between bucket seats and the deletion of KESSY + Start/Stop engine button? I would not have KESSY in any car I bought (even more the start/stop button) so really glad I got rid of it by speccing the Recaros but just curious really how do they relate.
Are standard seats electrically adjustable? I imagine that might be an explanation as the cabling that comes with them might extend to the start/stop button and then start/stop might require KESSY. So replacing them with the mechanically adjustable buckets might exclude both these systems at the same time.
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If you spec the buckets, you get no central console / arm rest. Apparantly that is the location of a lo of electrical control equipment, hence the deletion of that and the ambient lighting etc.
More interestingly have you got a build date yet?
Dave
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My dealership has sold a whopping 0 Clubsport's :o
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The last dealer I saw before I mentioned about being interested in a Golf R said they were not keen on the Clubsport either and did not seem keen to sell me one. I know this comes across as personal preference, which from a salesman may not be great.
They did not seem too bothered about selling a Clubsport. I personally have nothing against the clubsport myself was tempted for a while until I saw the price and then opted for a Golf R instead. However to all of you who have one on order enjoy it as I am sure it will be a great car to drive and own.
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If you spec the buckets, you get no central console / arm rest. Apparantly that is the location of a lo of electrical control equipment, hence the deletion of that and the ambient lighting etc.
More interestingly have you got a build date yet?
Dave
No build date for me yet....
In vids ive seen with the bucket seats i can see there is no armrest, but the rest of the centre console was there
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If you spec the buckets, you get no central console / arm rest. Apparantly that is the location of a lo of electrical control equipment, hence the deletion of that and the ambient lighting etc.
More interestingly have you got a build date yet?
Dave
Yes was week 24. According to my dealer it started last week but still is not complete, probably quality controls pending or something. Hopefully less than a month for delivery now.
The arm-rest can be retro-fitted for whoever needs it, Clubsport owners in Germany have done it already. I have it on my current car but I find I more often have to lift it up to access the handbrake, than I put it down to use as an actual arm-rest. Although with the e-brake it could stay down permanently, not really worried about it anyway.
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Dyno run, looking good :wink:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvDVLKtFb8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvDVLKtFb8I)
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Just realised that there is another deletion that comes with the buckets? I checked a couple of Clubsports in Germany, ones with buckets on and I see a) no rear air-condition vents (I guess since there is no central console) and b) no tray/cover over the cup pockets in-between the front seats (that doesn't make much sense).
Ok, KESSY I couldn't care less and the tray/cover is something rather indifferent to me, but I would have liked the rear passengers to enjoy some direct air flow. I wonder how possible it'd be to retro-fit that If I could bother at some point.
Which brings the question why did the central console needed to be ditched for the buckets to come on anyway?
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yea no rear air con it seems, this video on youtube shows a good look around, about 4mins 30 seconds in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83heCZdyT24
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yea no rear air con it seems, this video on youtube shows a good look around, about 4mins 30 seconds in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83heCZdyT24
I mean I would have still gone for the buckets as I think they are one of the main areas that set this car apart, no meaning in ordering one without them imo but just curious really why VW decided to ditch them.
However, some hard Google search and voila, for whoever this is an issue there is a detailed how-to in this german forum:
http://www.golf7gti.com/topic.php?t=6537&page=9 (http://www.golf7gti.com/topic.php?t=6537&page=9)
From my inexisting German I understand the armrest and console retrofit is possible and works fine, air-con included! In fact, now that I know it's possible I'll probably forget the idea all-together, it was much more intriguing when I thought it's not easy to do, like when someone forbids something :grin: and I'll be seating at the front anyway :tongue:
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^ Did something similar on my 2 Sciroccos, they had a central console but no rear airvents and no sliding cover for the central console cup holders. Swapped out for a Golf cover assembly and rear part of the console. Rear vent airflow is ducted in from the dash.
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Just got my build week of week 33!
Dave
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So delivery when....early Sept?
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Expect so, yes.
Want a 66 plate with that week anyway.
Dave
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Ive had my order number confirmation today, just waiting to log into the VW tracking site now, production week 15/08
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Same week as mine, maybe all UK cars being built that week.
When did you order?
Dave
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I ordered on the 9th of june, maybe they are all being built around that time?
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A few things have happened this week, presumably due to 1/8 coming around.
Clubsport S spec and pricing has been passed to dealers
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VW UK have now put a page on web site and announced via a press release that all have been sold "on release"
Press release below;
All 150 examples of Golf GTI Clubsport S allocated to the UK have been sold on release
Golf GTI Clubsport S is the most powerful production Golf GTI yet, with 310 PS
GTI technology is proven with Nürburgring lap record
Special model is part of the celebrations marking 40 years of the iconic Golf GTI
Priced at £33,995 RRP on-the-road
Every single Golf GTI Clubsport S model allocated to the UK market has been sold on release of the new car.
Only 400 examples of the Golf GTI Clubsport S will be built, of which the lion’s share (150) will come to the UK – a country where the enduring popularity of the hot hatchback is unmatched anywhere else in the world. Deliveries of these limited edition cars are expected to begin in early October.
The Clubsport S is the ultimate expression of the legendary Golf GTI. The front-wheel-drive car’s 2.0-litre TSI engine packs 310 PS, enabling a blistering 7m 49.21 s record lap time around the gruelling Nürburgring Nordschleife back in May.
The Golf GTI Clubsport S is focused on outright performance. It weighs 1,285 kg, resulting in a strong power-to-weight ratio of 4.15 kg/PS. A revised fuel pump is only one example of how comprehensively this car has been evolved but of greater significance is the weight reduction compared with the Golf GTI on which this car is based. Features such as an aluminium subframe on the front axle and aluminium brake covers illustrate the Wolfsburg engineers’ commitment to shedding the kilograms.
Continuing that theme, a smaller battery, along with the removal of components such as insulating material, the variable luggage compartment floor, the parcel shelf, floor mats and the bonnet damping have together pushed the weight tally down further. Finally, fitting the car with a manual transmission and removing the rear seats completes the comprehensive weight-saving programme.
That weight reduction contributes to the incredible performance of the Golf GTI Clubsport S. Standstill to 62 mph is reached in 5.8 seconds, and the top speed, where the law permits, is 164 mph. It packs a torque figure of 380 Nm between 1,850 and 5,700 rpm, with maximum power available between 5,800 and 6,500 rpm.
To transfer this performance to the road and track are four 235/35 ZR Michelin tyres, which are mounted on 19-inch ’Pretoria’ alloy wheels. The handling of the car can be adjusted by the driver thanks to Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC). DCC makes it possible to achieve the optimum response to driving conditions. Comfort, Normal and Race modes are available, as well as a special ‘Nürburgring’ option that further modifies the suspension, sound, engine and steering parameters.
The Golf GTI Clubsport S features race-derived heated bucket seats to connect driver and car. The character of the Clubsport S engulfs the driver through sound as well as feel thanks to a new exhaust system. The diameter ahead of the tailpipes is 65 mm instead of 55 mm, which reduces backpressure and increases performance. The side effect is the atmospheric backfire produced when decelerating.
This very special Golf has a recommended retail price of £33,995 on-the-road. Three colours are offered: ‘Tornado Red’, ‘Pure White’ and ‘Deep Black’. Air conditioning is available as a no-cost option, its inclusion adding around 10 kg to the lightweight car. CO2 emissions for the Clubsport S are 172 g/km and its economy on the combined cycle is 38.1 mpg*.
The Clubsport S joins the Clubsport Edition 40 in the GTI line-up – also a special edition to celebrate the GTI’s 40th birthday. It boasts 265 PS – 45 PS more than the standard GTI – with an overboost function to take power up temporarily to 290 PS, and is priced from £30,935 RRP on-the road. Both Clubsport versions of the Golf GTI share DNA with the successful Golf GTI TCR racing car that was launched at the start of the year.
Dealer info below;
What is it?
A road legal track car. It claimed the Nürburgring lap record for front-wheel-drive cars with 07:49:21.
The most powerful and exclusive Golf GTI ever with 310PS and only 400 being built worldwide with 150 for the UK
Timings
Unveiled 04th May at Wörthersee
Open for order: week 32 / early August
SOP: week 36 / early September
Market Intro: week 40 / early October
Options
3 door manual only
Only black, red or white all with black roof
No configurator, no options. All will be the same specification.
Will have 19” Pretoria alloys, a fine tuned chassis with Dynamic Chassis Control, front bucket seats and no rear seats.
Spec is same as GTI except for no: spare wheel, front centre armrest, pre-crash basic, Driver alert system, mirror pack, parking sensors, Adaptive Cruise Control with front assist and city emergency braking, light & sight pack,
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How can it weigh significantly less than a Manual Golf R and yet be thirstier? Yes it has 310ps, but the facelifted Audi S3 has this engine with no detriment to the fuel economy vs the 300ps unit.
No discounts given on any of the 150 units out there no doubt.
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Yep no discounts but it's actually not bad at £33995 compared to normal CS considering it has buckets, 19" Prets plus Cup 2 tyres (ridiculously dear on normal CS) + DCC + pearl paint and/or black roof.
OK they take some bits off (no parking sensors!) but the engineering gone into it is what I love.
Colours seem to have been allocated to dealers on a take it/leave it basis.
It will have to be emissions tested on the Cup 2 tyre which will increase Co2 plus the aero bits will increase drag at the expense of downforce.
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So reading that the Clubsport S allocation are all sold, maybe that will make them think about why they are struggling to sell the Clubsport allocation?
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So reading that the Clubsport S allocation are all sold, maybe that will make them think about why they are struggling to sell the Clubsport allocation?
The 17.5% discount being offered on standard GTI and I think R too makes the CS look a little dear.
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It absolutely did, I actually went into VW to buy a CS but the lack of any kind of deal offered had me walking out with a deal on an R at a bit over £27k....the difference on the PCP monthlies was over £200pm for 3 years!!
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Just to give you an idea, I have just had a PCP quote on a new Cayman base model with a few options, coming in around £45k pre discount ( and I have been told " tell me where you want to get to" so I think there is 5% in there )
Even with a frankly ridiculous 9.7% APR which I would never pay the Cayman was coming in around the same as a CS..
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Great, Having read that the car is actually more special than I thought
Not sure about not being able to pick your colour. My dealer has said no such thing and with a build at the end of the year I can;t see any reason why it can't be my choice
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Great, Having read that the car is actually more special than I thought
Not sure about not being able to pick your colour. My dealer has said no such thing and with a build at the end of the year I can;t see any reason why it can't be my choice
Interesting that you haven't chosen yet as VW UK already have numbers on the colour allocations;
Black 58
Red 27
White 65
Grand Total 150
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Yes I chose white but I noticed in a post earlier someone said they didn't have the option to choose?
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Yes I chose white but I noticed in a post earlier someone said they didn't have the option to choose?
That was me that said I didn't have a choice of colour.
I must have misunderstood what you said as it read as if you hadn't chosen yet;
" and with a build at the end of the year I can't see any reason why it can't be my choice".
I suppose it's still possible the colours were allocated in advance and if your dealer was quick enough he could choose from all 3 available (or my dealer is not telling the whole story).
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Sounds very odd
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Yes I chose white but I noticed in a post earlier someone said they didn't have the option to choose?
That was me that said I didn't have a choice of colour.
I must have misunderstood what you said as it read as if you hadn't chosen yet;
" and with a build at the end of the year I can't see any reason why it can't be my choice".
I suppose it's still possible the colours were allocated in advance and if your dealer was quick enough he could choose from all 3 available (or my dealer is not telling the whole story).
100% not telling the whole Story, the choice was there for all, it's not like they've already been built!!
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Yes sounds extremely fishy......
We had to email our area manager from day one which colour the customer wanted and we got all 3 in the colours requested. It was only at the last minute that they also asked did we want any without air con.
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Yes sounds extremely fishy......
We had to email our area manager from day one which colour the customer wanted and we got all 3 in the colours requested. It was only at the last minute that they also asked did we want any without air con.
thanks for the insight. I chose a small dealer in the West Country so a long way down the pecking order from inchcape and chances are they have less clout.
Well I've got my order number and the colour I want (black), I would have considered white solely for the lower maintenance required but the contrast roof isn't my cup of tea and doesn't serve any functional purpose which swung it for me.
Be nice to see what a black one looks like, even a normal CS pic will do for now
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Yes sounds extremely fishy......
We had to email our area manager from day one which colour the customer wanted and we got all 3 in the colours requested. It was only at the last minute that they also asked did we want any without air con.
thanks for the insight. I chose a small dealer in the West Country so a long way down the pecking order from inchcape and chances are they have less clout.
Well I've got my order number and the colour I want (black), I would have considered white solely for the lower maintenance required but the contrast roof isn't my cup of tea and doesn't serve any functional purpose which swung it for me.
Be nice to see what a black one looks like, even a normal CS pic will do for now
Yes I've found it difficult to find pics of a black one. Externally it looks identical to a clubsport 40:
(http://www.golf7gti.com/upload/direct/i_7985_6621_0_37_1470685744_9805.jpg)
This youtube also has the black one in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJkYPeWXaJk&feature=youtu.be
pause at 0:36, 5:28, 7:11
Because its externally identical to edition 40 and internally the same apart from the rear seats and removed buttons & spec you can also configure it on the vw website as an edition 40 and give it grey pretoria wheels to see what it will look like.
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The black golf in the pic is a Golf R not Clubsport GTI. :smiley:
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The black golf in the pic is a Golf R not Clubsport GTI. :smiley:
the white one behind it is a clubsport S though, and as the black doesn't have any decals it's gonne look similar to that R with pretorias
(http://www.golf7gti.com/upload/direct/i_7985_6621_0_37_1470685745_431.jpg)
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The link below shows what a black Golf GTI clubsport will look like
http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/ (http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/)
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The link below shows what a black Golf GTI clubsport will look like
http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/ (http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/)
Looks like Carbon grey to me :whistle:
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A black one here (South African Autotrader);
http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-cars/volkswagen/golf/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport--fpa-fb351270756b4bf4a7888a6224819dac
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The link below shows what a black Golf GTI clubsport will look like
http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/ (http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/)
Looks like Carbon grey to me :whistle:
i was looking at the image on my phone in bright sunlight at the beach if that's any defense for my faux par :whistle:
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The link below shows what a black Golf GTI clubsport will look like
http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/ (http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/)
Looks like Carbon grey to me :whistle:
i was looking at the image on my phone in bright sunlight at the beach if that's any defense for my faux par :whistle:
I'll let that one slide then :grin:
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The link below shows what a black Golf GTI clubsport will look like
http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/ (http://gtspirit.com/2015/12/16/2016-volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-review/)
Looks like Carbon grey to me :whistle:
i was looking at the image on my phone in bright sunlight at the beach if that's any defense for my faux par :whistle:
I'll let that one slide then :grin:
I mediate here: it's a 'light black' car rather than a 'dark black' model. :whistle:
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So if it's light black, then my poor
eye sight, err... visibility didn't fail me :whistle:
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Anyone else getting bored of waiting?
My build week is at the end of the year which they say will move forward but with the original expectation of the car being here later Sept and my old car going any minute now I'm unsure when I'll be happy again
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Originally ours was supposed to be built this week, now its week commencing 19th September.
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Ours was also too supposed to be last week, dealer not confirmed any different but the tracker still saying build week confirmed, but now not stating a week, I guess because the week has past?
Something obviously going on, will try and find an update tomorrow, as was hoping for a September 1st or very early Sept delivery.
Dave
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I think it's related to this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-production-idUSKCN10T16N (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-production-idUSKCN10T16N)
Europe's largest automaker had said on Wednesday that production of its top-selling Golf model at Wolfsburg was being hit because supplier ES Automobilguss GmbH has stopped delivering cast iron parts needed to make gearboxes.
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Popped into a local dealer last weekend and was told to expect a 6-9 month wait on a new Clubsport order. I thought when they announced them earlier in the year, they also said there was a cut-off month for making them (September?)?
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I guess they stop production of the Clubsport when they start the production of the VII facelift, which is around the end of this year I think.
There will be some nice features in the facelift such as a the full LCD dashboard and the much improved basic GPS. But we ordered the Clubsport, and happy with that :-)
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I thought there were only 1500 CS and that's it? so if they build in sept how can delivery be 9 months?
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Mine is now In Transit..... shouldnt be too long now
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Get in! :cool:
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
How was the meeting wish I had my GTi I would of gone to it GTI Owners was that enforced? only bet it was a cracking morning. many freebies? any pics or links to them please?
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
Well....Thanks for that Paul but where are the nice detailed pics? :whistle:
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
Well....Thanks for that Paul but where are the nice detailed pics? :whistle:
Check your inbox, I think I took enough snaps? :smiley:
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
How was the meeting wish I had my GTi I would of gone to it GTI Owners was that enforced? bet it was a cracking morning. many freebies? any pics or links to them please?
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Mine was built last week, according to dealer.
Tracker says still production last week, reckon it could be in transit too!
Dave
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
Well....Thanks for that Paul but where are the nice detailed pics? :whistle:
Check your inbox, I think I took enough snaps? :smiley:
Any chance of posting?
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Mines still "with the factory" and hasn't moved in months. :sad:
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I was at the PH Gti meeting this morning, they had a white Lhd Clubsport S there to climb over, nice car!
Well....Thanks for that Paul but where are the nice detailed pics? :whistle:
Check your inbox, I think I took enough snaps? :smiley:
Any chance of posting?
My shonky video of the Pistonheads GTI open has some video of the CSS inside and out
http://youtu.be/FlU88iS1WIE
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Thanks for that video Volkswizard
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Thanks for that video Volkswizard
My pleasure.
The key points of that Clubsport S are;
First WOB CSS I've seen (all others were BS for Braunschweig which is where the skunkworks team behind CS/CSS are based) therefore hopefully representatitive of spec)
First CSS I've seen with the correct black roof
It was a pre-production car with a plaque on centre console saying 000/400
It's on N rated Porsche approved tyres
Contrary to original spec release, it had rear parking sensors
As implied in spec it does indeed have floating front discs with aluminium bells, IIRC correctly this has not been on a Golf since Mk4 R32 but has been on TT RS/RS 3.
Engine is badged TSI picked out in red, some CS pics showed an R badge instead.
That car had done 5000 kms
It's been thrashed round Donington by Pistonheads (await a report)
VW UK Head of Press and PR (ex Porsche GB) was very enthusiastic about it and says 'EVO are all over it' which I took to mean they want a go in the UK too as they wont rate it until driven over here.
He said even though it was sold out he would be running 1 or maybe 2 cars on the UK press fleet as Porsche have done with sold out GT3 RS / GT4 to work on the halo effect for the rest of the range.
He was really pleased that initial suggestions from the press about it being too dear were proven incorrect by the cars selling out on release.
I had a sit in it and can say buckets are comfy and not too restrictive and alcantra wheel is very nice. Not sure if red marker on steering wheel is for understeer or oversteer though :nerd:
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What i like about Evo is they revisit and so a 4.5 can become a 5. I'd take what they say over PH any day
The discs just look like they have aluminium bells for weight saving
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The discs just look like they have aluminium bells for weight saving
They do save weight although the discs will be bigger than those on the normal CS so be interesting to know if they are lighter.
The main benefit is that they are less prone to distortion from excessive heat.
This is from the Brembo web site;
"Why use a two-piece "floating" disc assembly?
There are several reasons that a two-piece floating disc assembly is of benefit. First, by using an aluminium bell for the hub section of the disc saves a great deal of weight. Since this is both rotating and unsprung, it benefits the acceleration, braking, and handling of the vehicle. Secondly, it is better able to handle the large temperature changes that a brake disc experiences. During severe use, temperature variances become present in a one-piece disc and generally cause warping of the disc. This not only results in vibration of the vehicle, and pulsing of the brake pedal, but also pushes the pistons farther away from the disc. In a two-piece floating disc assembly, the iron disc heats up more uniformly, and the controlled float which is present allows for the differential expansion of the very hot brake disc, and the relatively cool aluminium bell. This allows the disc to be used under severe conditions without having a detrimental effect."
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Has there been anything to say they are actually fully floating as looking at your video to me they don't look like a true incarnation
I've hoofed my R round on a 360mm 6 pot fully floating set up and aware of the benefits, especially since its gone back to standard
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Has there been anything to say they are actually fully floating as looking at your video to me they don't look like a true incarnation
I've hoofed my R round on a 360mm 6 pot fully floating set up and aware of the benefits, especially since its gone back to standard
I wasn't aware there was a variation between floating and fully floating.
All I can say for definite is that they aren't 1 piece steel discs and the bell is alloy, the disc is mounted by pins to the bell. I've just checked official info from VW and can't find a mention of it but I have read it somewhere so probably in one of the many reports from the 'ring launch day.
They look the same type as those fitted to front of;
Mk4 R32
Mk1 TT 3.2
B5 RS4
B7 RS4
TT RS
RS 3
So if they are fully floating then I am confident the CSS's are to.
Would be interested to know the difference between floating and fully floating Wigit.
The angle of this pic doesn't help but you can just see the pins and there is a gap between bell and disc
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8231/29117119041_370f7dd49a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LmYR4P)IMG_3403 (https://flic.kr/p/LmYR4P) by Andrew Chapple (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135854525@N03/), on Flickr
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A little review here of the car
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/vw-golf-gti-clubsport-s-ph-videoblog/34841
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A little review here of the car
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/vw-golf-gti-clubsport-s-ph-videoblog/34841
Thanks Scotte, well spotted :laugh:
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Called by my Dealer today to tell me there's no news on build date for my CS let alone my CSS.
Says there's a parts supply issue
Madness
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Dispute is apparently resolved,
http://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/volkswagen-suppliers-dispute-finally-comes-to-an-end/53837671
I always thought there was down time in German factories in August for holidays & re tooling, so it wouldn't take much to cause a disruption in the build process.
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Full Autocar review this week!
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They are back from summer holidays for nearly a month.
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Got 24th Aug Autocar
Faster than all similar cars except RS3 (on their test track)
0-60 6.1s
0-100 12.7s
50-70 in third 2.5s
1360Kg
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Got 24th Aug Autocar
Faster than all similar cars except RS3 (on their test track)
0-60 6.1s
0-100 12.7s
50-70 in third 2.5s
1360Kg
Not sure why they were banging on about speccing the Discover Pro navigation "as on their test car" when you can't order any options and the test car only had the standard 5.5" screen anyway.
Common problem mistaking 5.5 for 8 inches
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Common problem mistaking 5.5 for 8 inches
Fortunately for me my Mrs has that problem.
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Has anyone in the UK had a confirmed build date that isn't in October?
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Has anyone in the UK had a confirmed build date that isn't in October?
Yes, but not actually sure which week!
Dealer told me it was due to be built week 32, Tracker said week 33, and now as of the weekend, its been at stage 4 on the tracker.
I think the delays at the plant must have affected it, but think it must also be built now and on its way.
Dealer is trying to find out.
I ordered mine opening day, 5th April.
Dave
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Cant wait for mine to land now..
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Has anyone in the UK had a confirmed build date that isn't in October?
yes I have one in stock
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Has anyone in the UK had a confirmed build date that isn't in October?
I haven't had a useful build date....well end of the year but dealer says that will be brought forward at some point. Frustrating tbh as I have to ask my Wife if I can borrow her M3 which gives her the camel
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I really want mine now. Ending paying a fair bit out for my old car. Wil recheck with vw online chat. Hopefully mine is a little sooner as well.
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Mines been delayed, I guess due to the supplier issues.
Dealer says it should be back to normal next week and then completed.
Guess I'm looking towards end of September now.
Dave
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Ha54sym. That's a shame. Are they saying it hasn't been built? I am getting more sense from the online chat than my own dealer (when they can be bothere to reply that is!).
Mine is now scheduled to build for 19/9/16. No idea how long it will take to ship.
Does anyone know if the CS has the city breaking radar? Not so bothered about having it as opposed to the insurance being lower.
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Ha54sym. That's a shame. Are they saying it hasn't been built? I am getting more sense from the online chat than my own dealer (when they can be bothere to reply that is!).
Mine is now scheduled to build for 19/9/16. No idea how long it will take to ship.
Does anyone know if the CS has the city breaking radar? Not so bothered about having it as opposed to the insurance being lower.
Pretty sure it has CB
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Thanks. Wil hel with the insurance premium!
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now on orangewheels at decent discount https://www.orangewheels.co.uk/enquiries/dd8d6e/enquiry_details/new.html
33-39 week delivery though
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Question for you:
What colour is this car?
(PS pic was taken in Milton Keynes just before it was driven to South Wales presumably for a magazine test yesterday so keep a look out :wink:).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrHrSAaXYAAg-8Y.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrMDOThWYAAnWv9.jpg:large)
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Upper photo most definitely looks like Black (comparing with my CSG). Bottom one looks to be CSG BUT given it's an S, it has to be black also (they only come in Black/Red/White).
What do I win? :tongue:
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Looks like it could be Urano Grey?
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Its CSG, looks great, same as mine on order.
Dave
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Not that I own a Golf any more......but VW in Grimsby have a white 5 door Clubsport in stock.....ready to sell if anyone is wanting one ASAP.
Ken
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Upper photo most definitely looks like Black (comparing with my CSG). Bottom one looks to be CSG BUT given it's an S, it has to be black also (they only come in Black/Red/White).
What do I win? :tongue:
Confused even more now!
The prize is some no longer required Clubsport back seats - only catch is collect from Wolfsburg :kiss:
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Looks like it could be Urano Grey?
Good one, yes it does and it's the only free colour on CS Ed 40 but can't be on a CSS :undecided:
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Its CSG, looks great, same as mine on order.
Dave
Hmm, if it CSG then that is really weird as its on a CSS which as mentioned before is only red/black/white.
Unfortunately the person who posted the pic and works in the VW UK press office hasn't replied to my question.
Might have to email the Wolfsburg press office and give them the reg to find out for sure.
My gut feeling is that it's DBP not CSG as it's a CSS and that the Iphone 6 used isn't representing colour too accurately but who knows?
I wonder what number it has on the console as the one at Pistonheads GTI Open and used by Autocar, Auto Express and PH was 000/400 so was definitely pre-production.
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Guys, it's a deep black pearl period! :tongue: First pic can't be more clear. The DBP in general is not pitch black and has a lighter tone in it, still very distinguishable from a CSG. I know as I've taken more than 100 pics of mine the last week from all possible angles and lighting combos.
What's a bit confusing is the lower photo with the logo but it's a game of the light. Here's how the logo looks on a CSG car:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/No_need_2_r_gue/Clubsport/public/2016-08-30%2016.58.15_zpswatxeqmb.jpg)
Take a closer look above the lettering in both photos and it's clear one is metallic black and the other metallic carbon steel. The confusion is created if look below the lettering in the first photo, as there's some reflection of the gravel that makes the black look like grey. Hope I sorted it for you now.
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Thanks for that. Does appear to look grey to me in the video too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ey_Tido0g
Glad we've confirmed its black :smiley:
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Thanks for that. Does appear to look grey to me in the video too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ey_Tido0g
Glad we've confirmed its black :smiley:
Nice find on that video - thanks.
(PS It says the CSS is £28000!)
So Carbon Steel Black? :tongue:
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/6xwAAOSwtnpXos~F/$_20.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/L7AAAOSw-itXvX2p/$_20.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/hv8AAOSwnQhXn2x3/$_57.jpg)
OK, so I still think for whatever reason its CSG, reason being as all Clubsports in DBP have the lower "Clubsport" stripe in light grey rather than black with all other colours.
See above
Dave
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/6xwAAOSwtnpXos~F/$_20.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/L7AAAOSw-itXvX2p/$_20.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/hv8AAOSwnQhXn2x3/$_57.jpg)
OK, so I still think for whatever reason its CSG, reason being as all Clubsports in DBP have the lower "Clubsport" stripe in light grey rather than black with all other colours.
See above
Dave
Good investigative work Dave!
I did think VW would have to make the stripe a contrast colour on the black cars. It's a bit odd as if you follow the line of the air scoop in the side of the front bumper it continues as the stripe aft of the front wheels which is really nice touch on the black red/cars. To make this work on the black cars, they'd need to make the air scoops grey to match the strip colour which they haven't.
I've always found Deep Black a very black black so this explains everything, why VW PR would make a CSG CSS is a bit of an odd one, maybe it's an upgraded CS Ed 40?
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It's definitely black the pictures of that very car are in the auto express review and it was present at the launch in germany. The pictures make it look grey due to the amount of gloss black plastic trim it has but in real life it looks deep black like any other deep black car.
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It's definitely black the pictures of that very car are in the auto express review and it was present at the launch in germany. The pictures make it look grey due to the amount of gloss black plastic trim it has but in real life it looks deep black like any other deep black car.
I have just seen the Auto Express pics and it looks grey apart from in the door shuts.
I have emailed VW UK press office who will have a definitive answer.
The contrast stickers on the black CS Ed40 make me lean towards it being grey. I never see a Mk7 GTI/GTD/R in black and think it might be grey, whatever the light etc
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It's definitely black the pictures of that very car are in the auto express review and it was present at the launch in germany. The pictures make it look grey due to the amount of gloss black plastic trim it has but in real life it looks deep black like any other deep black car.
I have just seen the Auto Express pics and it looks grey apart from in the door shuts.
I have emailed VW UK press office who will have a definitive answer.
The contrast stickers on the black CS Ed40 make me lean towards it being grey. I never see a Mk7 GTI/GTD/R in black and think it might be grey, whatever the light etc
LOL, you won't rest until you check the color field of the registration right?
I know the name is "deep black pearl" but it's not too deep really. Still... it's black!
I'd happily drive from Sweden and park next to it so you can see the difference between a CSG and DBP but it's too far for that :drool:
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It's definitely black the pictures of that very car are in the auto express review and it was present at the launch in germany. The pictures make it look grey due to the amount of gloss black plastic trim it has but in real life it looks deep black like any other deep black car.
I have just seen the Auto Express pics and it looks grey apart from in the door shuts.
I have emailed VW UK press office who will have a definitive answer.
The contrast stickers on the black CS Ed40 make me lean towards it being grey. I never see a Mk7 GTI/GTD/R in black and think it might be grey, whatever the light etc
LOL, you won't rest until you check the color field of the registration right?
I know the name is "deep black pearl" but it's not too deep really. Still... it's black!
I'd happily drive from Sweden and park next to it so you can see the difference between a CSG and DBP but it's too far for that :drool:
LOL, I bet there is a German web site where you can put the registration number in and it will say which colour but my German isn't up to that.
I'm just curious because I've got a black one coming so it would be nice to know what it looks like.
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LOL, I bet there is a German web site where you can put the registration number in and it will say which colour but my German isn't up to that.
I'm just curious because I've got a black one coming so it would be nice to know what it looks like.
Don't worry, the car in the photos you posted (and same for the Autoexpress article) is black so you can get an idea already :tongue:
Sorry I've probably missed it, you mean a CS or CSS?
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There is a group review using the same Clubsport S in this months Evo magazine.
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:grin: This is funny.
I have a GTI mk7 now in DBP and ordered a Clubsport in CSG.
The stripes on DBP Clusbports are all light grey and not black, one of the reasons I went with CSG as the grey looks not that great too me.
Unless the S models get black tape?
Dave
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:grin: This is funny.
I have a GTI mk7 now in DBP and ordered a Clubsport in CSG.
The stripes on DBP Clusbports are all light grey and not black, one of the reasons I went with CSG as the grey looks not that great too me.
Unless the S models get black tape?
Dave
I think it's unlikely they will make the tape less visible on the Clubsport S than the Ed40 so I too think DBP will have grey tape (and I also agree the black tape on the grey cars looks a bit incorrect)
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Easy way to solve this, as I only found out that DBP cars had the grey tape was to check ETKA for the strips for the clusbport S models (if the parts are loaded on the system yet)
If there are 2x types like the normal clusbports (1x grey and 1x black) then we know.
Dave
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Just been to see a red one in a local dealer - absolutely beautiful and I didn't realise they have numbered plaques attached to the door. :cool:
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Clubsport S in a showroom? already?
Dave
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Clubsport S in a showroom? already?
Dave
Not an S.
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I didn't know they had plaques either? :laugh:
What dealer is that, or do you have pictures?
Dave
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I didn't know they had plaques either? :laugh:
What dealer is that, or do you have pictures?
Dave
What plaques??
*me goes check*
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Dealer is Lookers, Middlesbrough. Plaques are on the driver's door - the part hidden by the dash end when the door is closed. Sorry, didn't take any pics. :sad:
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Same as edition 30 ones then, but they was on passenger side IIRC.
Dave
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Tag at sounds cool if they have small plaques. A discrete nice item which makes it even more of a special car.
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Tag at sounds cool if they have small plaques. A discrete nice item which makes it even more of a special car.
They do like this one on sale in Swindon VW:
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%203_zpsbqtgshx4.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%203_zpsbqtgshx4.jpg.html)
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%202_zpspon7dmbv.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%202_zpspon7dmbv.jpg.html)
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%201_zps09xftwvi.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%201_zps09xftwvi.jpg.html)
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%205_zpsu3fpvobq.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%205_zpsu3fpvobq.jpg.html)
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%204_zpshpabddh4.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%204_zpshpabddh4.jpg.html)
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg.html)
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Nice 😉 When you picking yours up?
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(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg.html)
Mine has nothing like that. Also none of the other Clubsports I have seen in other countries (SA, Germany, Sweden) have anything like it. Which would make sense since the production of Clubsports is not of a limited amount (rather of a limited period). Which also explains why the number is not in the usual "no. X of Y" format (as in the Clubsport S)
So I am assuming it was retro-fitted in the UK to add sine "uniqueness?" A bit lame though if it ain't done from factory hence has no universal meaning... :huh:
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Nice 😉 When you picking yours up?
Build week 39 bud
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What spec you gone for?
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really like those optional wheels.. and the seats !
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Was the same story with the edition 30 regarding the plaque, but worse as the plaques arrived several months after the car, and was up to the owner to get one and stick it on. :undecided:
Still looking forward to mine, but its still delayed apparently, should find out more tomorrow.
Dave
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What spec you gone for?
Clubsport s standard in deep black. Apparently options were possible but didn't manage to work out how.
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Yes, the one we’ve driven in Wales (and pictured here) is grey… it’s a one-off prototype brought across from Germany for us to try.
I stand corrected, still doesn't look like the same grey tone as on a CSG Clubsport. That or it was a very cloudy day.
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(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg.html)
Mine has nothing like that. Also none of the other Clubsports I have seen in other countries (SA, Germany, Sweden) have anything like it. Which would make sense since the production of Clubsports is not of a limited amount (rather of a limited period). Which also explains why the number is not in the usual "no. X of Y" format (as in the Clubsport S)
So I am assuming it was retro-fitted in the UK to add sine "uniqueness?" A bit lame though if it ain't done from factory hence has no universal meaning... :huh:
I quite like it. Hidden and out of the way. Looks as if it's from the factory as I can't see a main dealer doing this?
First UK one that I have seen.
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I'd prefer it if it was riveted to the car, rather than stuck on like an afterthought.
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Yes, the one we’ve driven in Wales (and pictured here) is grey… it’s a one-off prototype brought across from Germany for us to try.
This and other Clubsport S reviews seem to state options are available, but my understanding is that you get a (limited) choice of colour and air con delete, but that's it. Has anyone else with one ordered had a different experience?
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Back from the foreign and now have a build week (38).
I reckon it will be in the shed just over a year round from when we put the deposit down.
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(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k413/jjgreenwood/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg) (http://s326.photobucket.com/user/jjgreenwood/media/swindon%20clubsport%206_zpsjbviwnw9.jpg.html)
Mine has nothing like that. Also none of the other Clubsports I have seen in other countries (SA, Germany, Sweden) have anything like it. Which would make sense since the production of Clubsports is not of a limited amount (rather of a limited period). Which also explains why the number is not in the usual "no. X of Y" format (as in the Clubsport S)
So I am assuming it was retro-fitted in the UK to add sine "uniqueness?" A bit lame though if it ain't done from factory hence has no universal meaning... :huh:
I quite like it. Hidden and out of the way. Looks as if it's from the factory as I can't see a main dealer doing this?
First UK one that I have seen.
It is attached at the factory
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VW probably don't know how many CS they will make as yet?
The reason I say that, is empirical rather than having any "inside" knowledge.
I recall the 2006 Edition 30 was initially supposed to be a run of 1500 cars for the UK.
If you had the chassis number and reg, you could apply to VW UK for a stick on plaque, I have seen these with numbers as high as 2297, considerably more than the expected 1500.
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VW probably don't know how many CS they will make as yet?
The reason I say that, is empirical rather than having any "inside" knowledge.
I recall the 2006 Edition 30 was initially supposed to be a run of 1500 cars for the UK.
If you had the chassis number and reg, you could apply to VW UK for a stick on plaque, I have seen these with numbers as high as 2297, considerably more than the expected 1500.
They do there will be 1000 according to vw UK. No allocation all build to order.
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VW probably don't know how many CS they will make as yet?
The reason I say that, is empirical rather than having any "inside" knowledge.
I recall the 2006 Edition 30 was initially supposed to be a run of 1500 cars for the UK.
If you had the chassis number and reg, you could apply to VW UK for a stick on plaque, I have seen these with numbers as high as 2297, considerably more than the expected 1500.
They do there will be 1000 according to vw UK. No allocation all build to order.
The VW press release wording is a bit vague re. the 1,000 units, as they only "anticipate" that no more than 1,000 examples will be available to the UK. The wording leaves plenty of scope to build more if there is demand, unfortunately. The exact wording is below:
"Production of the new Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 is time limited, and it is anticipated that no more than 1,000 examples of the latest ‘collector’s item’ GTI will be made available to UK buyers."
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VW probably don't know how many CS they will make as yet?
The reason I say that, is empirical rather than having any "inside" knowledge.
I recall the 2006 Edition 30 was initially supposed to be a run of 1500 cars for the UK.
If you had the chassis number and reg, you could apply to VW UK for a stick on plaque, I have seen these with numbers as high as 2297, considerably more than the expected 1500.
They do there will be 1000 according to vw UK. No allocation all build to order.
The VW press release wording is a bit vague re. the 1,000 units, as they only "anticipate" that no more than 1,000 examples will be available to the UK. The wording leaves plenty of scope to build more if there is demand, unfortunately. The exact wording is below:
"Production of the new Golf GTI Clubsport Edition 40 is time limited, and it is anticipated that no more than 1,000 examples of the latest ‘collector’s item’ GTI will be made available to UK buyers."
The internal desktop bulletin states they just going to let people order them until the 1000 have run out. Perhaps Lee can find it and post it?
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Bulletins and press statements are all very well, Porsche suggested they would bring 200x Cayman GT4 into the UK, that has become 600.
The example I mentioned of 800 more ED30 being built than initially proposed, shows VW are not immune to "extra" production.
It may well be only 1000 produced for the UK, the only way to know is wait and see...?
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It is attached at the factory
So for some reason, the main assembly plant keeps track of how many UK cars in particular are being made and then sticks a plate to them alone? Since the production is not number-limited nor area-limited may I ask why would it do that?
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It is attached at the factory
So for some reason, the main assembly plant keeps track of how many UK cars in particular are being made and then sticks a plate to them alone? Since the production is not number-limited nor area-limited may I ask why would it do that?
Isn't the number on the plaque the last 4 digits of the chassis number? If someone is by the showroom car they can check it against windscreen VIN. If it is that's not great, if it isn't then that's more meaningful.
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Bulletins and press statements are all very well, Porsche suggested they would bring 200x Cayman GT4 into the UK, that has become 600.
The example I mentioned of 800 more ED30 being built than initially proposed, shows VW are not immune to "extra" production.
It may well be only 1000 produced for the UK, the only way to know is wait and see...?
Don't think all this Clubsport S press activity is to increase demand for a car you can't buy - it's to boost sales of the next best thing, the Clubsport Edition 40 which you can.
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Bulletins and press statements are all very well, Porsche suggested they would bring 200x Cayman GT4 into the UK, that has become 600.
The example I mentioned of 800 more ED30 being built than initially proposed, shows VW are not immune to "extra" production.
It may well be only 1000 produced for the UK, the only way to know is wait and see...?
Don't think all this Clubsport S press activity is to increase demand for a car you can't buy - it's to boost sales of the next best thing, the Clubsport Edition 40 which you can.
Much like Monkey Harris tweeting today that the 911 Turbo which is readily available is a better car than the 911 R (which is sold out).
Was it a CS or CSS you are getting in the end? Didn't quite catch that.
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Bulletins and press statements are all very well, Porsche suggested they would bring 200x Cayman GT4 into the UK, that has become 600.
The example I mentioned of 800 more ED30 being built than initially proposed, shows VW are not immune to "extra" production.
It may well be only 1000 produced for the UK, the only way to know is wait and see...?
Don't think all this Clubsport S press activity is to increase demand for a car you can't buy - it's to boost sales of the next best thing, the Clubsport Edition 40 which you can.
Was it a CS or CSS you are getting in the end? Didn't quite catch that.
It's a CSS
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What spec you gone for?
Clubsport s standard in deep black. Apparently options were possible but didn't manage to work out how.
Only options were colour (if you were lucky) and a/c delete.
Autocar erroneously banged on about upgrading the nav in their road test but this was incorrect.
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Good spot, I can now rest :nerd:
So one prototype is grey and the other has black wheels, neither of which you can get on a production car :huh:
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It's a CSS
Nice. Pitty you're not in Sweden... would be interesting to see how the two cars actually matched up on track. VW Sweden offers a driving course to Clubsport buyers but I haven't seen any CSS owner joining (or existing) so far.
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Anyone know whether the Clubsport brochure that you can download, was ever available as a hard copy from VW? Thanks.
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Good spot, I can now rest :nerd:
So one prototype is grey and the other has black wheels, neither of which you can get on a production car :huh:
Yes seems odd to have options on cars which are not available to select. But perhaps it is only the UK cars where spec is limited.
Did you get to choose your colour? Is it that they are only bringing to the UK a certain number of each colour?
I would have chosen the black wheels if I could :angry:
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Good spot, I can now rest :nerd:
So one prototype is grey and the other has black wheels, neither of which you can get on a production car :huh:
Yes seems odd to have options on cars which are not available to select. But perhaps it is only the UK cars where spec is limited.
Did you get to choose your colour? Is it that they are only bringing to the UK a certain number of each colour?
I would have chosen the black wheels if I could :angry:
Easy enough to have the wheels repainted.
I think they went with silver wheels because it looks OK on all the colours, black on a black car isn't to everyone's taste and giving a choice was obviously too much grief.
I didn't get a colour choice and it's hard to be sure why unless the bodyshells are painted already and awaiting build (unlikely).
It wouldn't surprise me if they pre-decided on the colours as that's in keeping with giving zero options and I am surprised that black was as popular as white pretty much considering it's not been on a press CS or CSS.
The a/c delete option had to be there so you could spec a car like the 'ring record one.
Red and white look great but I'm happy with black because I do want a bit of stealth.
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It's a CSS
Nice. Pitty you're not in Sweden... would be interesting to see how the two cars actually matched up on track. VW Sweden offers a driving course to Clubsport buyers but I haven't seen any CSS owner joining (or existing) so far.
All things being equal I can't see how the CSS can't be significantly quicker than the CS seeing as they went to a lot of effort for the 'ring record. Did the CS set a time?
I know the 'ring is a unique circuit as it's bumpy and twisty but more negative camber, better power to weight ratio and more effective brakes should help on faster circuits too.
Auto Express test against CTR would be interesting as CS was beaten by it a few months back, will CSS be any better?
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All things being equal I can't see how the CSS can't be significantly quicker than the CS seeing as they went to a lot of effort for the 'ring record. Did the CS set a time?
I know the 'ring is a unique circuit as it's bumpy and twisty but more negative camber, better power to weight ratio and more effective brakes should help on faster circuits too.
Auto Express test against CTR would be interesting as CS was beaten by it a few months back, will CSS be any better?
Well the CSS should be quicker but I mean I'd like to see just how much on a track, driven merely by enthusiasts. When you say equal I imagine you mean same PSC2 tyres (which are not standard on the CS) and VW's deliberate CS detune ditched and a healthy 300-310ps available? Hmm... I don't think there'd be that much but I may just have the chance to find out at some point :wink:
Reason I believe this is how similar the cars are (basically the CSS "sits" by 90%+ on an already great CS chassis and setup) and that German motorsport magazines have already published some rather interesting lap times about the CS. Conclusion was that when on the same tyres as the CSS (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2) it seems it's not as slow as AutoExpress tried to present it (for whatever reasons). You have to remember that test (if you can call that a test) was done on stock Bridgestones and it woudn't surprise me if it was even worse than 2.5" as they are that bad a tyre for sports driving. Definitely not representative of the car's potential. But change to MPSC2 (as in the CSS) or even MPSS and here's what happens:
Hockenheimring:
CSS: 1:13,1
CS (on MPSC2): 1:14,2
Cupra: 1:14,7
CTR: 1:15:9
Nordschleife done by Auto Motor und Sport reviewers:
CSS: 07:58
CS (on MPSC2): 08:07
Cupra: 08:14
CTR: 08:15
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The way I look at these these lap times I think that the differences between the CS and its non CSS competitors are so small that it boils to the driver's skills. CSS should still be quicker but if you then match the power (nobody has done that yet) I think it'd be a very small gap.
And actually you don't even need a remap. A remap on these engines means 360-370bhp and 500Nm of torque that completely takes it to another level (there's nearly +100bhp gain in the mid range). A minor boost increase to 300-310bhp which is in fact the engine's stock output on every other car it's used (R/S3/CSS) can't possibly be considered a remap (warranties aside).
Of course if you're going to do it, better do it right from the beginning :tongue:
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Good spot, I can now rest :nerd:
So one prototype is grey and the other has black wheels, neither of which you can get on a production car :huh:
Yes seems odd to have options on cars which are not available to select. But perhaps it is only the UK cars where spec is limited.
Did you get to choose your colour? Is it that they are only bringing to the UK a certain number of each colour?
I would have chosen the black wheels if I could :angry:
Easy enough to have the wheels repainted.
I think they went with silver wheels because it looks OK on all the colours, black on a black car isn't to everyone's taste and giving a choice was obviously too much grief.
I didn't get a colour choice and it's hard to be sure why unless the bodyshells are painted already and awaiting build (unlikely).
It wouldn't surprise me if they pre-decided on the colours as that's in keeping with giving zero options and I am surprised that black was as popular as white pretty much considering it's not been on a press CS or CSS.
The a/c delete option had to be there so you could spec a car like the 'ring record one.
Red and white look great but I'm happy with black because I do want a bit of stealth.
I was wondering if VW UK perhaps secured, or chose to have, 50 in each colour for the UK. These then got somehow allocated.
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apologies to all, cs116 is grey
https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-reviews/volkswagen-golf-gti-clubsport-s-2016-review-two-minute-road-test
Good spot, I can now rest :nerd:
So one prototype is grey and the other has black wheels, neither of which you can get on a production car :huh:
Yes seems odd to have options on cars which are not available to select. But perhaps it is only the UK cars where spec is limited.
Did you get to choose your colour? Is it that they are only bringing to the UK a certain number of each colour?
I would have chosen the black wheels if I could :angry:
Easy enough to have the wheels repainted.
I think they went with silver wheels because it looks OK on all the colours, black on a black car isn't to everyone's taste and giving a choice was obviously too much grief.
I didn't get a colour choice and it's hard to be sure why unless the bodyshells are painted already and awaiting build (unlikely).
It wouldn't surprise me if they pre-decided on the colours as that's in keeping with giving zero options and I am surprised that black was as popular as white pretty much considering it's not been on a press CS or CSS.
The a/c delete option had to be there so you could spec a car like the 'ring record one.
Red and white look great but I'm happy with black because I do want a bit of stealth.
I was wondering if VW UK perhaps secured, or chose to have, 50 in each colour for the UK. These then got somehow allocated.
We had to request colours so I think they ordered to spec on colour. That said I did see on pistonheads someone post some numbers and red was the rarest, no idea where he got the information from, or even if its true.
Personally I think the white is a bit bling, can't decide whether it'll be nicer in red or black though. Red shows off the black trim, but black shows off the red trim.
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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/hooning-a-vw-golf-gti-clubsport-s-on-a-mountain-road-was-my-idea-of-hot-hatch-perfection/
some nice pictures of cs116 here
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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/hooning-a-vw-golf-gti-clubsport-s-on-a-mountain-road-was-my-idea-of-hot-hatch-perfection/
some nice pictures of cs116 here
"...Then there’s the aero to think about: the kit the S gets is roughly based on the Edition 40’s, but on the latter car it merely cancels out the lift. The more extreme bits and pieces attached to the S meanwhile give proper downforce: 8kg at the front and 17kg at the rear."
Reading bits like that I remind myself I should be more lenient with forum members or people I happen to discuss with that have clearly no knowledge of what they are talking about. At least they do it for leisure/fun and are not getting paid from it like that guy in the quoted article.
So, the S has "more extreme" aero bits and pieces (which ones? where???) that give it downforce as (supposedly) opposed to the standard CS? :undecided: Reality: no, the CSS carries over the identical bodykit/aero pack of the CS and they both generate the same amount of downforce which is 8kg front, 17kg rear probably at quite high speeds. VW merely denied disclosing the figures at CS launch last year but did so when the CSS was released. For sure Nurburgring records seem to be aiding imagination (and it's not the first time I come across smt like it) resulting in funnier articles...
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The way I look at these these lap times I think that the differences between the CS and its non CSS competitors are so small that it boils to the driver's skills.
The same is probably true of GT3 vs GT3 RS 911, only a highly skilled driver will exploit the addition capabilities of the GT3 RS but it doesn't take away from the superiority and desirability of the car.
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We had to request colours so I think they ordered to spec on colour. That said I did see on pistonheads someone post some numbers and red was the rarest, no idea where he got the information from, or even if its true.
That was me quoting numbers on Pistonheads, the info came directly from VW Press Office and is quoted in the current issue of VW Driver magazine.
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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/hooning-a-vw-golf-gti-clubsport-s-on-a-mountain-road-was-my-idea-of-hot-hatch-perfection/
some nice pictures of cs116 here
"...Then there’s the aero to think about: the kit the S gets is roughly based on the Edition 40’s, but on the latter car it merely cancels out the lift. The more extreme bits and pieces attached to the S meanwhile give proper downforce: 8kg at the front and 17kg at the rear."
Reading bits like that I remind myself I should be more lenient with forum members or people I happen to discuss with that have clearly no knowledge of what they are talking about. At least they do it for leisure/fun and are not getting paid from it like that guy in the quoted article.
So, the S has "more extreme" aero bits and pieces (which ones? where???) that give it downforce as (supposedly) opposed to the standard CS? :undecided: Reality: no, the CSS carries over the identical bodykit/aero pack of the CS and they both generate the same amount of downforce which is 8kg front, 17kg rear probably at quite high speeds. VW merely denied disclosing the figures at CS launch last year but did so when the CSS was released. For sure Nurburgring records seem to be aiding imagination (and it's not the first time I come across smt like it) resulting in funnier articles...
Generally at a press launch the journos are given an info pack and all info should come from this so weird to make a fundamental mistake like this.
Having said that if Autocar can't distinguish the standard nav screen from the bigger upgrade and then bang on about being able to upgrade it when the zero option aspect to the CSS is almost as newsworthy (for a VW) as the 'ring record itself, there are bound to be errors elsewhere.
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The way I look at these these lap times I think that the differences between the CS and its non CSS competitors are so small that it boils to the driver's skills.
The same is probably true of GT3 vs GT3 RS 911, only a highly skilled driver will exploit the addition capabilities of the GT3 RS but it doesn't take away from the superiority and desirability of the car.
Yes probably. Interestingly enough, looking at GT3/GT3RS lap times they are so close (only couple of tenths per minute) that you wonder where all that RS superiority has gone but at least there you don't have to sacrifice two rear seats as they don't exist even on the standard GT3, lol.
You know actually, for the majority it won't ever matter if the CS matches 95% or 99% the performance of the CSS with merely a set of PSC2 and a re-map (correction: a reversion to stock map :grin:) at ~310ps. The CSS is still the one which is the official record holder and a 400 unit limited edition. These two alone can ensure desirability remains high.
For the rest of us that are interested in actual technical differences, lap times and how/whether they are affected and by which items in particular, and do take our cars to the track it is a different story. Not going to bother with anything other than a set of Michelins and a map "correction" as the car just feels perfect to throw around bends at any speed I fancy (first car of mine that will every stay with 100% stock suspension) but I am pretty sure a few CS owners will be going down the CSS road, and maybe even further.
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:undecided:
The way I look at these these lap times I think that the differences between the CS and its non CSS competitors are so small that it boils to the driver's skills.
The same is probably true of GT3 vs GT3 RS 911, only a highly skilled driver will exploit the addition capabilities of the GT3 RS but it doesn't take away from the superiority and desirability of the car.
Yes probably. Interestingly enough, looking at GT3/GT3RS lap times they are so close (only couple of tenths per minute) that you wonder where all that RS superiority has gone but at least there you don't have to sacrifice two rear seats as they don't exist even on the standard GT3, lol.
You know actually, for the majority it won't ever matter if the CS matches 95% or 99% the performance of the CSS with merely a set of PSC2 and a re-map (correction: a reversion to stock map :grin:) at ~310ps. The CSS is still the one which is the official record holder and a 400 unit limited edition. These two alone can ensure desirability remains high.
For the rest of us that are interested in actual technical differences, lap times and how/whether they are affected and by which items in particular, and do take our cars to the track it is a different story. Not going to bother with anything other than a set of Michelins and a map "correction" as the car just feels perfect to throw around bends at any speed I fancy (first car of mine that will every stay with 100% stock suspension) but I am pretty sure a few CS owners will be going down the CSS road, and maybe even further.
Having driven on Toyo R888Rs, how do you think the Cup 2 compares?
I assume it's not hideously noisy like the Toyos, but does that mean it's not as extreme?
My CSS is build week 41 by the way, just in time for some winter tyres :undecided:
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Having driven on Toyo R888Rs, how do you think the Cup 2 compares?
I assume it's not hideously noisy like the Toyos, but does that mean it's not as extreme?
My CSS is build week 41 by the way, just in time for some winter tyres :undecided:
Ouch, November (possibly) doesn't seem the best period to get hold of such a car does it? Cupra owners with the same tyre on the Sub8 pack say it needs prudence in the rain and always good warm up. I imagine it can be tricky in the winter depending on where you are of-course.
I've had semi-slicks before (Federal RS-R - what an amazing tyre if you are below 220-230 bhp) but I haven't driven either the Toyo or the PSC2 to safely comment. I wouldn't worry about it being less extreme than the Toyo though. The PSC2 according to every reviewer I trust is almost a magic tyre with reported insane amounts of grip. I don't think you could have anything better for track or dry road use.
If the CS came with the PSC2 on I'd stick with them no doubt but as I am in a position of choosing, after discussions with owners and a car journo that has actually driven and reviewed both the CS and CSS (and several sports tyres also), I ended up going for the MPSS over the PSC2. Car being our daily driver I decided I should trade in a few tenths of a second for better overall driveability (rain/temps) and greater longevity. Still, miles ahead from the dreadful Bridgestones...
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I picked up my CS yesterday. It's so fast... :laugh:
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Tracker now states in Transit for mine.
Hopefully next couple of weeks!
Dave
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I read earlier some comments about the black roof, if it was a wrapped or so. I have it (combined with Oryx White), and I can tell it is not a wrapping but normal paint. It's very nice! I am happy with this dual colour choice.
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Pics Please !! :laugh:
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Do VW notify you when the build status changes
I ordered a CS at the same time as the CSS so that the CS would keep me busy while I waited for the CSS but I have no build week on either :angry:
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That was me quoting numbers on Pistonheads, the info came directly from VW Press Office and is quoted in the current issue of VW Driver magazine.
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Thanks for that, I'd overlooked the numbers quoted in the magazine. I'm surprised the number for the red cars is so low.
Not sure why you did not get an opportunity to have a colour pref, did you state your interest very close to the allocation day?
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My cs has arrived and i should be picking it up this week :laugh:
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So how long are they building them for?
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My cs has arrived and i should be picking it up this week :laugh:
Nice one!
Get some pics up asap if you could please.
You must be buzzing.
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yea looking forward to it, will be sad to see my GTi go, but new car , new toys
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Does anyone know whether the Clubsport (not S) just has a standard GTI exhaust system with bigger tailpipes, or is the complete system different to a standard GTI? Thanks.
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It's not just the bigger tailpipes, there's definitely a different rear silencer I believe. It is louder than the GTI, nothing silly mind you, just makes the DSG gear changes on boost sound lovely.
Also, some GTI owners in Germany have already retro-fitted exhaust parts from the Clubsport (so there must be different than the GTI) although with my limited German I am not sure whether it was just the rear silencer and/or middle resonator.
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GTI Clubsport exhaust system.
https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/exterieur-clubsport-silencer-golf-7-gti-genuine-volkswagen-exhaust.htm
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EVO November 2016
Clubsport S v RS v Type R v Cupra 290
Lots of stats e.g. CS-S 0-60 5.8 braking etc etc
Verdict
1. CS-S
2. Cupra
3. RS
4. Type R
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It's not just the bigger tailpipes, there's definitely a different rear silencer I believe. It is louder than the GTI, nothing silly mind you, just makes the DSG gear changes on boost sound lovely.
Also, some GTI owners in Germany have already retro-fitted exhaust parts from the Clubsport (so there must be different than the GTI) although with my limited German I am not sure whether it was just the rear silencer and/or middle resonator.
Okay, that sounds good.
GTI Clubsport exhaust system.
https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/exterieur-clubsport-silencer-golf-7-gti-genuine-volkswagen-exhaust.htm
Mmm, the description on that link makes it sound like it's the same system, just with bigger tailpipes.
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At my local dealers today
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/mccanno1/Mobile%20Uploads/1D6A5FCA-1869-4ECF-B4A8-F6B0F4AA59AD.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/mccanno1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/1D6A5FCA-1869-4ECF-B4A8-F6B0F4AA59AD.jpg.html)
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/mccanno1/Mobile%20Uploads/919A1CBE-C15D-45E0-BD44-D5B709CA331A.jpg) (http://s272.photobucket.com/user/mccanno1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/919A1CBE-C15D-45E0-BD44-D5B709CA331A.jpg.html)
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At my local dealers today
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That's a proper GTI, really like those wheels too.
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That's a proper GTI, really like those wheels too.
No offense but I was literally going to write "worst color, worst wheels" :embarrassed: I don't think there's another paint+wheel combo that ruins the Clubsport looks more than this.
Of course "to each his own", "we're all different" etc.
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That's a proper GTI, really like those wheels too.
No offense but I was literally going to write "worst color, worst wheels" :embarrassed: I don't think there's another paint+wheel combo that ruins the Clubsport looks more than this.
Of course "to each his own", "we're all different" etc.
I tend to agree...
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No idea how I can upload pictures here... a link to google is the best for now:
https://goo.gl/photos/hfq1LN8stmyvCuNx7 (https://goo.gl/photos/hfq1LN8stmyvCuNx7)
more pictures will follow later. But mine is a "known" configuration :smiley:
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That's a proper GTI, really like those wheels too.
No offense but I was literally going to write "worst color, worst wheels" :embarrassed: I don't think there's another paint+wheel combo that ruins the Clubsport looks more than this.
Of course "to each his own", "we're all different" etc.
Imo those wheels look like they belong on a Qashqai or Juke or something...
^ ^ This one Jan DR has posted looks nice :cool:
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No idea how I can upload pictures here... a link to google is the best for now:
https://goo.gl/photos/hfq1LN8stmyvCuNx7 (https://goo.gl/photos/hfq1LN8stmyvCuNx7)
more pictures will follow later. But mine is a "known" configuration :smiley:
Was going to go for white but coming from a white hot-hatch I needed a change. I think it's meanest color on this car (lots of contrast with the black Clubsport styling bits) and pretty handsome.
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That's a proper GTI, really like those wheels too.
No offense but I was literally going to write "worst color, worst wheels" :embarrassed: I don't think there's another paint+wheel combo that ruins the Clubsport looks more than this.
Of course "to each his own", "we're all different" etc.
Imo those wheels look like they belong on a Qashqai or Juke or something...
^ ^ This one Jan DR has posted looks nice :cool:
I thought they were snatched from a Beetle in the beginning, too playful, too funky (or too silly in a sense). Defo not the serious sports wheel I'd expect to see on such a car. Not to mention they're an incredible 4kg heavier than the stock Belvederes... Want to hear something even worse though? VW OZ has chosen them as standard on the OZ Clubsport. Clubsport buyers over that side of the world are really brave people :tongue:
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Really not a fan of Austins (GTI) , or Cadiz (R) - GTD definitely got the best looking standard wheels - i'd rather have those shown than either of the aformentioned.
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I think the silver looks quite good actually. Looks great against the gloss black and red bits imo.
The wheels are "ok". My main bugbear with them is they're diamond cut. I'll never have a car with diamond cut wheels again if I can help it - although I realise that could be difficult as every manufacturer seems to be fitting them now.
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Guess I'm the odd one out, I usually am. :smiley: I think the brescias look stunning, better than the standard ones or the pretorias. :cool:
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Guess I'm the odd one out, I usually am. :smiley: I think the brescias look stunning, better than the standard ones or the pretorias. :cool:
I like them too, wouldn't mind a set on my PP. Having said that I don't think they suit a silver car but the biggest problem with the CS above is the excess of doors :whistle:
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I like the colour but god those wheels look awful. Have gone with the standard ones myself.
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I thought I did like them too but having seen the white one with std wheels I quite like that look. Still think the 3 door suits the Cs much better though. I also like the pano roof as it gives the black contrast but the added benefit of more light.
If I ever went ahead with one I would keep the spec very light.. White, 3 door, bucket seats, that's about it.. Would like to see a pic of one with the brescias.. That said the weight of the std wheels makes a big difference I am sure v the brescias
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Now the CS's (not CSS) are hitting dealer forecourts I must go have a nose at one.
The Carbon and white ones look really good in the pics.
3 door looks more 'pure' but the 5 doors still carry it off well. The CS is gradually growing on me.
I thought I did like them too but having seen the white one with std wheels I quite like that look. Still think the 3 door suits the Cs much better though. I also like the pano roof as it gives the black contrast but the added benefit of more light.
If I ever went ahead with one I would keep the spec very light.. White, 3 door, bucket seats, that's about it.. Would like to see a pic of one with the brescias.. That said the weight of the std wheels makes a big difference I am sure v the brescias
I pretty much agree with all that.
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By the way, this thread's title is rather... sad, could someone please edit it to something more cheerful? :tongue:
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That's a proper GTI, really like those wheels too.
No offense but I was literally going to write "worst color, worst wheels" :embarrassed: I don't think there's another paint+wheel combo that ruins the Clubsport looks more than this.
Of course "to each his own", "we're all different" etc.
Imo those wheels look like they belong on a Qashqai or Juke or something...
^ ^ This one Jan DR has posted looks nice :cool:
I thought they were snatched from a Beetle in the beginning, too playful, too funky (or too silly in a sense). Defo not the serious sports wheel I'd expect to see on such a car. Not to mention they're an incredible 4kg heavier than the stock Belvederes... Want to hear something even worse though? VW OZ has chosen them as standard on the OZ Clubsport. Clubsport buyers over that side of the world are really brave people :tongue:
I thought the whole point of the Clubsport was so it was lightweight? The 18's look perfect on it.
I wonder why the Clubsport S has 19's (prets) - over 18's, is it something to do with the tyres/width?
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Really not a fan of Austins (GTI) , or Cadiz (R) - GTD definitely got the best looking standard wheels - i'd rather have those shown than either of the aformentioned.
I noticed the you can configure the GTI in USA with Nogaros now.
I've got Nogaros on my GTD, but really want a GTI with Austins for my next car, but then you always want what you haven't got. :grin:
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I've gone with Bresicas as I'm fed up with looking at forged wheels all day and not a big fan of the standard wheels.
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I thought the whole point of the Clubsport was so it was lightweight? The 18's look perfect on it.
I wonder why the Clubsport S has 19's (prets) - over 18's, is it something to do with the tyres/width?
To my surprise they seem to fill the arches pretty well, also the car sits on a perfect height for my like. Low enough to look great but not look like it's been lowered.
Definitely has to do with the tyres. The 19" Sport Cup 2 is a killer on the dry. The Pretoria may be 2kg heavier than the Belvedere but it's also 0.5" wider and paired with that tyre it more than cancels out the weight deficit of stock wheels+Bridgestones.
The obvious question is though why not a 18" PSC2 on the light-weight Belvederes? Maybe the engineers decided they absolutely needed that extra 0.5" of width and the lightest available wheel was the Pretoria at 19". Do VW make a 18x8 wheel? If not it could be the answer.
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gfgh
By the way, this thread's title is rather... sad, could someone please edit it to something more cheerful? :tongue:
Sadness removed :)
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gfghBy the way, this thread's title is rather... sad, could someone please edit it to something more cheerful? :tongue:
Sadness removed :)
:grin: thanks! mucho better
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But I am sad, still no build date and I thought I'd be driving it in Sept :sad:
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I am sad too as I have ordered silver with the standard wheels but after seeing the pictures of a silver car posted yesterday I regret the colour choice albeit I think silver looks better with the standard wheels than those optional ones but tempted to change to white as the photo posted by Jan looked amazing.
I believe that white is now standard in the uk at least according to the configurator so I will save some money too!
I think colour choice will influence residuals on these cars. Interested in your views??
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I'd stick with silver if it was me,I think the previous pics of the clubsport especially the one from behind with the dark light clusters really suit it.
Are you getting a 3 or 5 door?
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I think Silver is stunning and would have been my 1st choice had my nipper not convinced me to go white
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I am sad too as I have ordered silver with the standard wheels but after seeing the pictures of a silver car posted yesterday I regret the colour choice albeit I think silver looks better with the standard wheels than those optional ones but tempted to change to white as the photo posted by Jan looked amazing.
I believe that white is now standard in the uk at least according to the configurator so I will save some money too!
I think colour choice will influence residuals on these cars. Interested in your views??
Thanks!
For clarification: the colour is Oryx white, with black roof.
Things I regret (already): no bucket seats (I took leather because I was afraid the buckets would be to short for proper head protection, as I am quite tall) + no Xenon/LED daylights.
For the rest I am more than happy!!!
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I am sad too as I have ordered silver with the standard wheels but after seeing the pictures of a silver car posted yesterday I regret the colour choice albeit I think silver looks better with the standard wheels than those optional ones but tempted to change to white as the photo posted by Jan looked amazing.
I believe that white is now standard in the uk at least according to the configurator so I will save some money too!
I think colour choice will influence residuals on these cars. Interested in your views??
Thanks!
For clarification: the colour is Oryx white, with black roof.
Things I regret (already): no bucket seats (I took leather because I was afraid the buckets would be to short for proper head protection, as I am quite tall) + no Xenon/LED daylights.
For the rest I am more than happy!!!
A shame really that VW Belgium (and Sweden) have not included the Bi-Xenons in the standard equipment as VW UK. I was contemplating on them for some time as it's probably one of the most expensive options, then every Clubsport I saw (on the internet) had them on and looked really nice so I figured I'd bite the bullet and throw them in the specs list. But I understand one may skip them in an effort to keep the total cost down.
Post-delivery I haven't regretted it at all, best lights I have ever had on a car (maybe that does not say much as it's the first car I spec with xenons anyway) and they include cornering functions and auto levelling (the first day I was scratching my head where the heck is the light level switch :grin:) which kind of explains the price. Interested to see how they standard ones look on the car if you don't mind and can post a pic of them.
Buckets, well, if there ever was one option that had to be ticked on the Clubsport it's them imo. Not only they increase the car's exclusivity and uniqueness as they are not an option on any other MK7 Golf, but you could probably make some good money out of them in the future if you wanted to sell the car as they are almost impossible to retro-fit. Way too expensive and they only come in pieces which means yet some extra cost. They are already much sought after in forums. But at least you got the leather!
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The bucket seats was one option I did not tick and went for the standard seats instead, cost was not the issue but simply imo the standard seats are more practical and match the rest of the interior better than the bucket seats, I'm not too keen on that black gloss section at the back of the seats and suspect will be difficult to keep from getting marked and scratched.Furthermore with the buckets you lose the centre armrest plus the rear passenger heater/vents as well as the side airbags and storage box beneath the seat, also easy entry is only possible with the standard and leather seats which is necessary for the 3 door version which I have ordered. I know I am very much in the minority and the bucket seats are the popular choice but as they say everyone to their own.
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3 Door/Clubsport/Pure White, Belvederes, DCC, Panoramic Sunroof, Sat Nav Pro, Dynaudio
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I didn't order the seats originally, as I thought they compromised too many things as mentioned like the ambient lighting, armrest etc etc.
However, I thought about it and agreed its a defining feature of the car so added them later.
Also I saw that easy entry was added to the bucket seats on MY17 changes, at least that's what I could make out, and I have a 3 door coming too, so will have to see.
Dave
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Not a problem for me, in the 3 years ive had my Gti i can count on one had the amount of times ive had passengers in the back seat, normally just myself and the wife in the front, or my brother when we go to watch the swans play :cool:
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Urano grey, 19" brescias and leather interior in Lookers, Darlington last week and Tornado red, buckets and 19" brescias in Lookers, Middlesbrough the week before - both customer orders. Both looked very nice indeed - are they anyone's on here? :cool:
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Tell me you didn't see them in the flesh and not get pics !? :lipsrsealed:
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after a slight delay with paperwork.... im collecting mine in the morning :laugh:
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How come there are physical cars in the UK and other haven't even got a poxy build date?
I thought there was a short production window with these
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Urano grey, 19" brescias and leather interior in Lookers, Darlington last week and Tornado red, buckets and 19" brescias in Lookers, Middlesbrough the week before - both customer orders. Both looked very nice indeed - are they anyone's on here? :cool:
Yes had a good nosey, but sorry no photos. :embarrassed:
after a slight delay with paperwork.... im collecting mine in the morning :laugh:
That's great news, photos please. :cool:
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Couple of Clubsports on autotrader if anyone wants to see a "real" car. 3 door in white with Brescias and Sunroof looks quite good. Both of them have the std seats though which look a bit boring now compared to the buckets.
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Couple of Clubsports on autotrader if anyone wants to see a "real" car. 3 door in white with Brescias and Sunroof looks quite good. Both of them have the std seats though which look a bit boring now compared to the buckets.
This. As with a few models before it, I think the buckets will be one of the very few extras that will support higher resale values for the cars that have them. In 5-7 years from now the hot-hatch Nurburgring record might be starting with a 6 (exaggerating here) and another even more focused variant might be out by that time, so it will be the party bits of the car that will either make it stand out and command a premium over the rest of GTIs and Rs.
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Interesting as all the first ones I have seen in UK don't have buckets, so could be that was one of the delays.
Mine is still at port or on ship now, so not long.
But agreed, without buckets is not good.
Glad I got them in the end.
Dave
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Picked it up, lovely to drive, feels a bit different to the gti i had, huge smile when i saw it, heres a quick few pics, i got number 29...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/IMG_2202_zpsxry8eviy.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/IMG_2202_zpsxry8eviy.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/IMG_2206_zpsmqg56lcb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/IMG_2206_zpsmqg56lcb.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/IMG_2204_zpskkxduakj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/IMG_2204_zpskkxduakj.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/IMG_2207_zpskozeicvr.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/IMG_2207_zpskozeicvr.jpg.html)
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The buckets are a bit part of what gives the CS its identity, I wouldn't consider one without them if tempted - those with buckets will really stand out against the ones that don't and the standard GTI.
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:cool: looks awesome Aidey
The CS really looks good in Carbon grey.
I'd love to see a Urano Grey one in the flesh as that would just be 'different' and pretty unique to the model as far as GTI's go.
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Clubsport #29 - stunning :cool: :cool:
This forum needs a 'like' button...
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Looks great, especially the seats.
What's your view on the std wheels ? Keen to know how they look in real life, they look a bit skinny in pics but am sure they pay back being a lot lighter than the Brescias. I do like those wheels but it kind of goes against the principle of clubsport !
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Thanks for the positive comments guys, i like the wheels , look smart to me, wont mark as easily as the one's on my last Gti
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where is the tag with "serial number"? I didn't see it yet on mine...
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Its on the Door of mine..
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Looks great, especially the seats.
What's your view on the std wheels ? Keen to know how they look in real life, they look a bit skinny in pics but am sure they pay back being a lot lighter than the Brescias. I do like those wheels but it kind of goes against the principle of clubsport !
They are much better in real life, hard to explain how/why but I think it has to do with the silver part. In almost all the photos, the glossy black interior of the rim is lost because of poor cameras and lighting so you get that skinny look you say, to me they looked like a pizza sometimes.
In the flesh they look so much better because you see there is more "wheel" than you thought and with quite a presence. I immediately abandoned the idea of swapping them for an aftermarket set the moment I saw the car for the first time.
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They look just spot on for my tastes.
What edition number did you get scanesare
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Picked it up, lovely to drive, feels a bit different to the gti i had, huge smile when i saw it, heres a quick few pics, i got number 29...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/IMG_2202_zpsxry8eviy.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/IMG_2202_zpsxry8eviy.jpg.html)
Car looks fantastic, congrats
Would love to see more pics of all the little exterior bits on the car when you get a chance
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Very nice indeed, I'm looking forward to getting mine. :cool:
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Yea i'll post some more, just didnt get time to take more before it got dark today
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:laugh: Looks great, and exact same spec as mine looks wise (mines just manual), nice low number too.
Hopefully will get mine in a week or so.
Can't wait now.
Any more pictures outside in god daylight?
Dave
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I dont have any at the moment, but i will get some up in the morning, as soon as i get up, im out in it! :laugh:
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They look just spot on for my tastes.
What edition number did you get scanesare
As well as the ride height, almost looking as if lowered which is the sweet spot for me.
No edition number on mine as that's a UK thing apparently. Otherwise exactly the same as yours. CSG, 5door, Belvederes, Buckets, DSG :wink:
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Great pics. Having a test drive in one tommorow. Can't wait.
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That looks lovely, I like the small touches with the red on the DSG Gear Knob, The mats look cool too with the red stripe do they have any branding on them Edition 40 etc?
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Looks awesome
Whats it like on a b-road blast?
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The Mats have a Red trim with a little Gti tag on them. Its all B roads around here so great fun... heres a few more i took before work today
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/P1050775_zpsc0yap5s3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/P1050775_zpsc0yap5s3.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/P1050776_zpshasrhzop.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/P1050776_zpshasrhzop.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/P1050779_zpswyjazo1s.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/P1050779_zpswyjazo1s.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/P1050780_zpsxm9jmqfy.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/P1050780_zpsxm9jmqfy.jpg.html)
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Did you go for DDC?
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My Big Questions are -
1. Does it feel "special" enough to justify the price ? Would it be special enough to run as a weekend car ?
2. Does it feel quick enough i.e. is it all you need as a fun car - especially on B roads where power isn't everything
3. Does the overboost really work !? :laugh:
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Yea i have the DCC, i had it on my last Gti so wanted it again
It does feel Special. Imo it looks different enough from the standard Gti, its powerfull enough for me, obviously ive only had it on the road a few hours since yesterday, I'll be testing it more over the next few days.
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Hers a big question that owas a hot topic on other forums. Does the seat belt have a red trim down the side? (Although I should be finding out myself soon).
Also how comfortable or not are the seats? They look good but not sure how they would be on Long journeys.
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Another question! Does the exhaust sound any different to a standard GTI? Thanks.
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Yes the seat belt has red trim down both sides, The Dsg Gear Level also has a red trim, the seats are comfortable, i find them fine, although im not sure if i was a bigger man they might be a bit of a tight fit?
Im not sure on the exhaust tone so far, one thing im noticing is that there doesnt seem to be an actuator on the clubsport? maybe its just me, doesnt sound as false as the other Gti i had?
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Hers a big question that owas a hot topic on other forums. Does the seat belt have a red trim down the side? (Although I should be finding out myself soon).
Also how comfortable or not are the seats? They look good but not sure how they would be on Long journeys.
My Big Questions are -
1. Does it feel "special" enough to justify the price ? Would it be special enough to run as a weekend car ?
2. Does it feel quick enough i.e. is it all you need as a fun car - especially on B roads where power isn't everything
3. Does the overboost really work !? :laugh:
Most of this has been answered a few pages back but here goes:
- Exhaust is louder than the GTI, different rear muffler. More noise on WOT and great farts during full boost gear changes. Nothing silly mind you. You can still drive hard and not feel ashamed that everybody's looking at you with disgust.
- Seat-belts have a nice thin red line running across on both sides. Amazed as to how many non-car people that came in noticed and praised this.
- Bucket seats are amazing. Just excellent support but none of the discomfort that usually comes with other buckets, definitely seem to be non-punishing on long journeys (2hr so far without issues). Clubsport would feel half as special without them.
- I will tell you a little secret: The overboost doesn't seem to (practically) be there at all. I was also worried about it beforehand. Whenever you floor the throttle you just get a constant surge forward. On dyno runs with and without it, there has a been a mere 9bhp difference and all runs are showing 300+ bhp and always over 380 Nm. This means it is not the "25bhp ON / 10 sec / 25 bhp OFF" thing it was announced to be, but it has its own mind and comes on and off in a more gradual way. Bottom-line is whenever you floor it you will most probably end up with 290+ bhp under your right foot. VW is seriously misleading with the 265ps official value (still all the better for us).
Furthermore I timed 40-120mph (60-160km/h) runs with racing GPS equipment and on average the times are even a few tenths quicker than any R or S3 runs I've seen. Equal power and less weight are the only possible answer.
- B-road blasting is where the car feels at its best. The steering and corner grip is just amazing. Can't imagine I'd dare to go any faster than I'm going with this car, and it certainly feels I'm not yet at the limit, car doesn't even seem to sweat one bit (but Bridgestones do).
Obviously feeling is subjective but to me it feels more special than I'd ever imagine a "reasonably priced" super-hatch to be and definitely more than all the other cars I test-drove or went in (Cupra, Golf R, S3, 330i, Focus RS). The steering wheel is just a dream and all the alcantara bits and special touches (different GTI cell/texture) paired with the gorgeous buckets are making you look below the seat for a helmet...
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thanks for the views, really encouraging.
I was ruling out the CS due to price but it sounds like it has a lot going for it.. I guess there is more too it that 0-60 which is good to hear.
More I see the pics and hear about it, the more I think this would be a fantastic weekend car alongside the 330d, that is also practical and reliable without costing the earth, and would make financial sense as a long term keeper.
You always come back to £30k is a lot for a golf, however there are very few limited(ish) run focussed cars anyway, and yes the M2 is more desirable but its also £15k more and for me the CS-S is too track focussed. Focus RS, not my bag and made in big numbers. M140i is a bargain for the performance but too similar inside to the 330d to have one as a weekend long term keeper..
Am still torn about colours and wheels though. Brescias look better to me, and I love it in red and while as you see the side decals better.. Don't think I have seen a silver one yet but suspect it might be a bit boring ?
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I've just ordered a 3 door dsg, white with black roof, pano sunroof, 90% tints, rear camera, 19" brescias (I love them!), DCC and bucket seats. Can't wait! Anyone want to buy an 7R?!
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Would be pretty much my spec - 3 door manual, white, pano roof and likely Brescias
Did you get any discount ? Likely delivery date ?
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ps anyone know the official insurance group for the CS ?
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Would be pretty much my spec - 3 door manual, white, pano roof and likely Brescias
Did you get any discount ? Likely delivery date ?
Discount same as Orange Wheels and an estimated build week currently at 49, which of course could change 12 times before it gets confirmed!
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And another question - particularly aimed at UK Clubsport owners - when you put the sidelights on, do the front DRLs dim? My 7R DRLs dim, but my wife's newer 7R-Line DRLs (it has upgraded xenons as per GTI) don't. Thanks.
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So I have today taken a clubsport for a drive and wow. I can only compare to a non pp GTI and an R. Ill start with the driving which is the best feature, the engine is superb, smooth and with the right power. The throttle response is almost perfect with power always ready to go and the car simply drives itself around. The chassis is brilliant and I was chucking the car in all directions and never once felt like I couldn’t have given it more power. I could be imagining this but it seemed much more nimbler than the R and actually for some indescribable reason seemed a lot lighter. The steering seems a lot more focussed than previous golfs, I’m not sure whether this is down to the grip from the alcantara or any particular technical changes but it worked really well. Then the engine sound….. Wow again. To hear it is a joy, seems wholly different to other GTIs. I couldn’t actually hear the actuator.
The interior, really does feel nice and actually very much like an Audi, the red stitching is subtle and the suede and piano effects really make it look premium.
The exterior is nice, the spoiler is bigger than I would imagined which isn’t that good but you will certainly notice a clubsport next to a standard GTI. I didn’t like the bresicas on photos and I didn’t like them in the flesh either, they seem like a cheap aftermarket wheel, this is only my own subjective opinion of course.
In summary, this is the best golf I have ever driven, the word I would use is fun. I was grinning like a Cheshire cat when I got out of the car. Can’t wait to get mine.
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Great to hear your impressions Kitbag.
Having run a GTI putting out similar power to the GTI CS I can vouch for it feeling lighter on its feet than an R and the VAQ diff certainly pulls you out of corners without any fuss.
After the half arsed effort with the Ed35 VW really seem to have pulled it out of the hat with the Ed40.
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Was it a manual or DSG out of interest ?
Shame to hear about the wheels I really fancied those but need to see some in the flesh really..
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Drisser- the car I had was a DSG. Ur was really smooth and I wish I had gone for one myself now :sad:
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noooo manual all day long.. and saves £ and weight ! Why go clubsport and add weight !?
Did you order with the std wheels or Brescias ?
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Saw a Tornado Red 3 door Clubsport being driven by a lady in my village (in South Norfolk) this morning. I must say I thought it looked it looked really good. Can't remember anyone on here saying they'd ordered a TR 3 door, so probably not a forum member.
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really ? whereabouts are you I live in North Lopham.. will have to keep an eye out for it.
think it looks good in red with the pan roof tbh..
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Will be one in Northwold at the weekends (eventually).
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really ? whereabouts are you I live in North Lopham.. will have to keep an eye out for it.
think it looks good in red with the pan roof tbh..
No, in Poringland, just south of Norwich.
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noooo manual all day long.. and saves £ and weight ! Why go clubsport and add weight !?
Did you order with the std wheels or Brescias ?
Gone with the standards. I liked the look of them and the prets seems a bit pricey.
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I'm wondering whether to change my order to red
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I noticed in the CS brochure it is 98 RON fuel minimum ? Is that 100% ?
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I noticed in the CS brochure it is 98 RON fuel minimum ? Is that 100% ?
Yes, it's a Leon Cupra engine, which is the same as a Golf R engine with a slightly different nominal output.
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I noticed in the CS brochure it is 98 RON fuel minimum ? Is that 100% ?
You can put 95 in it but it would be a false economy, losing power and fuel economy - thr 300ps R drops to 285ps on standard unleaded. Hard to find 98 amywhere, it is all 97 (BP, Esso, Sainsburys) or 99 (Tesco Momentum or Shell V Power). I go with the Tescos as it is as good as Shell and 10p/L cheaper locally.
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So here are some pics:
https://www.facebook.com/WaxIT/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1190488751003516 (https://www.facebook.com/WaxIT/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1190488751003516)
No comments please about the headlights... I am very upset that I don't have the Xenon lights. I was not aware about them at the moment of entry, I didn't know the difference was so significant and that the red line is only on the Xenon's. My dealer didn't inform me. Now it seems that in Belgium, the Xenon's are standard on the GTI but not on the GTI Clubsport...
I am now checking if I the Xenons can still be installed. If somebody has experience, please let me know...
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So here are some pics:
https://www.facebook.com/WaxIT/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1190488751003516 (https://www.facebook.com/WaxIT/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1190488751003516)
No comments please about the headlights... I am very upset that I don't have the Xenon lights. I was not aware about them at the moment of entry, I didn't know the difference was so significant and that the red line is only on the Xenon's. My dealer didn't inform me. Now it seems that in Belgium, the Xenon's are standard on the GTI but not on the GTI Clubsport...
I am now checking if I the Xenons can still be installed. If somebody has experience, please let me know...
Absolutely gorgeous, but... oh my god, I can not believe they spec them without xenons in some countries. Wrong wrong wrong!
Retro-fitting xenons is neither trivial nor cheap I'm afraid.
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Quiet like the look of the red stripe not extending over the lights, I see no reason why you cannot have the xenons fitted although I reckon it will cost a bit. Noticed you went for the leather seats instead of the standard ones and the buckets, any reason why you went with leather?
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I see no reason why you cannot have the xenons fitted although I reckon it will cost a bit.
It'd cost a fortune to do it properly and no dealer will entertain the idea...
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Joe,
Remember Zenons only become standard in Ireland for the 142 ( 2nd half 2014 ) plate over here.
It wouldnt surprise me if they remove them as standard for the upcoming facelift model but hopefully VWI have turned a corner and will continue the decent spec of MK7 as standard.....?
Douglas lad, congrats on the CS, were Zenons and Brescias standard on the Irish CS or did you need to add as part of the '162' campaign?
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I remember that well Fabio! Sure I paid €1500 (?) to spec them on my GTI :sick: I don't think VW here will go back to that though. Their entire range here now is pretty well kitted as standard including the new Tiguan.
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Quiet like the look of the red stripe not extending over the lights, I see no reason why you cannot have the xenons fitted although I reckon it will cost a bit. Noticed you went for the leather seats instead of the standard ones and the buckets, any reason why you went with leather?
It was a hard choice but the 3 reasons I went for leather:
- I like the leather seats a lot, no difficult choice over the standard
- At time of order, no car with bucket seats was available for testing, I was not sure if it was comfortable for long trips (hard? no arm rest...)
- I am quite tall and was not sure the buckets would provide enough/safe headrest
Still I recon that a CS should have buckets seats... I am also checking if I can retrofit them. If it is possible and affordable, I will try them first. If I decide to replace them, I would put the leather seats in my other Golf Mk 7 (1.6 TDI) to improve that car a bit... (standard seats in a 1.6 TDI look and feel really cheap)
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For the buckets I'd say forget it (unfortunately). They are only sold in (expensive) pieces, so apart from the high cost there is some serious assembly that needs to be done to get them in the car. I had seen some links in other forums and it was basically a "forget it" thing unless prepared to splash the cash.
For the headlights there are some aftermarket options for the GTI (with the red stripe) that are an improvement over the stock halogens, link here: https://deutscheautoparts.com/mk7-gti-helix-led-headlights-with-red-stripe.html
They also got both led U's illuminating (like in the R). Probably not OEM Bi-Xenon lighting levels but most people seem to be pretty happy with them in forums.
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For the buckets I'd say forget it (unfortunately). They are only sold in (expensive) pieces, so apart from the high cost there is some serious assembly that needs to be done to get them in the car. I had seen some links in other forums and it was basically a "forget it" thing unless prepared to splash the cash.
For the headlights there are some aftermarket options for the GTI (with the red stripe) that are an improvement over the stock halogens, link here: https://deutscheautoparts.com/mk7-gti-helix-led-headlights-with-red-stripe.html
They also got both led U's illuminating (like in the R). Probably not OEM Bi-Xenon lighting levels but most people seem to be pretty happy with them in forums.
absolutely great tip. Thanks!
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absolutely great tip. Thanks!
There's also a DIY video to help with installation and all in all it doesn't seem very difficult to do on your own.
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A few days of ownership and im loving the Ed40. Love the feel of the drive, it just feels different to the previous Gti , and that was great, ive had a lot of attention in the small town where i live which is a good and bad thing, The seats are comfortable, but they do make a creaky noise, any one else notice that, i also have a slight rattle , vibration noise i think from the passenger side somewhere when driving on rough road, other than that, superb
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Would anyone be prepared to get there hands dirty and measure the diameter of the front and rear anti roll bars? Curious to know what VW did and whether they increased rotation with just a bigger rear bar or both changed
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Would anyone be prepared to get there hands dirty and measure the diameter of the front and rear anti roll bars? Curious to know what VW did and whether they increased rotation with just a bigger rear bar or both changed
Might be able to do that soon when I get the car on a ramp. Have to remember to get the caliper with me...
A few days of ownership and im loving the Ed40. Love the feel of the drive, it just feels different to the previous Gti , and that was great, ive had a lot of attention in the small town where i live which is a good and bad thing, The seats are comfortable, but they do make a creaky noise, any one else notice that, i also have a slight rattle , vibration noise i think from the passenger side somewhere when driving on rough road, other than that, superb
Haven't noticed any creaks from the seats, is it happening all the time? Maybe has to do with really bad quality road? My only issue so far the bass thing.
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Joe,
Remember Zenons only become standard in Ireland for the 142 ( 2nd half 2014 ) plate over here.
It wouldnt surprise me if they remove them as standard for the upcoming facelift model but hopefully VWI have turned a corner and will continue the decent spec of MK7 as standard.....?
Douglas lad, congrats on the CS, were Zenons and Brescias standard on the Irish CS or did you need to add as part of the '162' campaign?
Zenons are standard in Ireland but the Brescia's are just an option. I went with the standard Belvedere's as I prefer them and will probably purchase a set of Pretoria's at a later date. The €162 option just includes Dynaudio and App Connect, Sat Nav Pro is just €571 if you go for the €162 option.
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Yea only get noise when im on a rough road, but if you sit in the Recaro's and wiggle about, push yourself back in them, there is some noise, not enough to bother me, certainly when my music is playing
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Took the wife out this morning for a spin, and we have located the culprit of the noise, its the area where the armrest used to be lol, its not a cupholder, something in there is rattling, so i will have to try and dismantle to have a look...
10 minutes later and all it was is a little cover over a screw that was loose and vibrating, just behind the seatbelt clip, so took it off, went for a drive, no noise, happy days
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Joe,
Remember Zenons only become standard in Ireland for the 142 ( 2nd half 2014 ) plate over here.
It wouldnt surprise me if they remove them as standard for the upcoming facelift model but hopefully VWI have turned a corner and will continue the decent spec of MK7 as standard.....?
Douglas lad, congrats on the CS, were Zenons and Brescias standard on the Irish CS or did you need to add as part of the '162' campaign?
Zenons are standard in Ireland but the Brescia's are just an option. I went with the standard Belvedere's as I prefer them and will probably purchase a set of Pretoria's at a later date. The €162 option just includes Dynaudio and App Connect, Sat Nav Pro is just €571 if you go for the €162 option.
My Bad.!! Confusing my wheels, i meant Belvedere's.!! 😄
Any photos? I saw you uploaded some but i believe we need to register to view. Try photobucket?
I love the fact VW are now naming some of their wheels after Kent/ Medway towns like Dartford and Belvedere. Looking forward to 19" Thamesmead and the 20" Erith..! 😀
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Would anyone be prepared to get there hands dirty and measure the diameter of the front and rear anti roll bars? Curious to know what VW did and whether they increased rotation with just a bigger rear bar or both changed
Might be able to do that soon when I get the car on a ramp. Have to remember to get the caliper with me...
Thanks, would be good to know what is meant in the press release other than "moving roll stiffness rearward". They all said the same thing without explaining how they did it, and although they claim to stiffen the springs 10% and match the dampers this alone doesn't shift stiffness rearward so would be good to see what VW decided was workable with the MQB platform before I look to change things.
It could be they just kept the front bar the same and changed the rear, or changed both but revised the size ratio front to rear.
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Mines now arrived in the UK, hoping for pick up next weekend!
Dave
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FYI: got feedback from dealer about the bucket seats retrofit.. they can indeed only be ordered in pieces, and those cost together... 10.000€ for 2 front seats... so that excludes all the working hours. You will also have an issue with the fact they don't have airbags. So indeed; "not possible"
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Mines now arrived in the UK, hoping for pick up next weekend!
Dave
How exciting. Mines now in the build stage!
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FYI: got feedback from dealer about the bucket seats retrofit.. they can indeed only be ordered in pieces, and those cost together... 10.000€ for 2 front seats... so that excludes all the working hours. You will also have an issue with the fact they don't have airbags. So indeed; "not possible"
Wow...
So if the resale value will not be what I'm after, I can rip the seats out and exchange them for a profit it seems. VW has certainly made it impossible to retro-fit those new.
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Same seats have been optional in VW and Audi for years. Unfortunately, there is also a regular theft of them from vehicles because of the value.
Clubsport without them though? No way!
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Agreed. These cars will be high value for thieves once they strip them down for parts. The seats and the steering wheel being the prime examples. Take care of your CS! Won't be leaving mine on show on the drive as much as I can avoid it.
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I've just read the latest Auto Express test of the CS and the car was Deep Pearl Black. Before reading this I had never seen one in the colour before but I think it looks great in black, as it looks more muscular but more subtle than the other colours as the add on bits blend in and it's more discreet. I love the Carbon Grey to after seeing the images of other members cars.
Would like to hear peoples' view of the CS in black?
Still stuck at stage 2.
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It was a toss up between black and white for me. White won, but only just and each time I see a black one I wobble and I wonder whether to change. The thing is I'm an old codger and white is easier to look after. :laugh:
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Thanks Trev
I know black is a PITA and that is the reason I ordered silver. I think silver suits the MK7's lines but I will change my order to black - current GTI is black and it looks great for the 5 minutes it's clean but it a challenge.
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Can anyone please comment on the throttle response of the CS compared with the GTI. I currently have a pedal box on my GTI and it's a great product and most on here agree but I am wondering if it is a needed on the CS. I am thinking/hoping VW has improved the responsiveness throughout the throttle range as it is a more focussed car?
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Look how beautiful with pretoria's...
http://nl.ww3.autoscout24.be/classified/288398591?asrc=pl|as (http://nl.ww3.autoscout24.be/classified/288398591?asrc=pl|as)
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Look how beautiful with pretoria's...
http://nl.ww3.autoscout24.be/classified/288398591?asrc=pl|as (http://nl.ww3.autoscout24.be/classified/288398591?asrc=pl|as)
That is a great picture and I think it's because the car is a 5 door. Looks much more balanced.
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Pretoria's look good no matter if it's a 3 or 5 door on both the "R" and "Clubsport". Would love to know what tyres were fitted to the Pretoria's in those photo's.
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Those wheels as said look great on both the R and Clubsport.
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Does anyone know why some Clubsports have red stripes on the seat belts and others don't.
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Does anyone know why some Clubsports have red stripes on the seat belts and others don't.
The red stripe comes with either standard seats or buckets. When you opt for leather it's deleted.
Pretoria's look good no matter if it's a 3 or 5 door on both the "R" and "Clubsport". Would love to know what tyres were fitted to the Pretoria's in those photo's.
No question really. Pretorias only come with Pilot Sport Cup 2 semi slicks on the Clubsport.
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I am a bit confused regarding the red stripes on the seat belts, there are 3 5door Clubsports advertised for sale on a UK site with standard cloth seats and neither has the red stripes, however I have seen photo's of a UK reg model with buckets and this had the red stripes.
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Does anyone know why some Clubsports have red stripes on the seat belts and others don't.
The red stripe comes with either standard seats or buckets. When you opt for leather it's deleted.
Pretoria's look good no matter if it's a 3 or 5 door on both the "R" and "Clubsport". Would love to know what tyres were fitted to the Pretoria's in those photo's.
No question really. Pretorias only come with Pilot Sport Cup 2 semi slicks on the Clubsport.
Hi, I have leather in my CS and do have the red stripes.
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Hi, I have leather in my CS and do have the red stripes.
Well it's the only spec I haven't seen the red stripe on the seat belts so I don't know what's going on.
Here's a vid with a CS and leather, no red stripe (unless my eyesight has gone really bad):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl0An-nrDag&list=PL1gJICZyZQfx86rXvBOBCsZUJMOArU8tY&index=8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl0An-nrDag&list=PL1gJICZyZQfx86rXvBOBCsZUJMOArU8tY&index=8)
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The CS I drove had standard cloth seats with no red stripe.
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Hi, I have leather in my CS and do have the red stripes.
Well it's the only spec I haven't seen the red stripe on the seat belts so I don't know what's going on.
Here's a vid with a CS and leather, no red stripe (unless my eyesight has gone really bad):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl0An-nrDag&list=PL1gJICZyZQfx86rXvBOBCsZUJMOArU8tY&index=8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl0An-nrDag&list=PL1gJICZyZQfx86rXvBOBCsZUJMOArU8tY&index=8)
let me take a picture in the weekend :smiley:
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let me take a picture in the weekend :smiley:
Lol, no need, I am sure it's as you say. But I don't really know what is going on with the red-stripe for sure. Standard seats get them and don't get them (according to the post above). Leather ones also (car in the vid no, your car yes). The only ones that are consistent are the ones with buckets it seems :tongue:
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Mines stage 5 now! Anyone know if they 4 week info is correct?
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Just been to see this white one at Pulman's, Durham. Very nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvyrV45mHUQ
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They are slightly off the mark with "this limited edition vehicle is completely sold out in the UK " though !
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So impossible to order?
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just found this on the VW website , used car section
Volkswagen Golf 2.0 TSI GTI Clubsport Edition 40 DSG 5-Dr
Finished in Metallic Carbon Grey with Black Cloth interior
Wrexham
£37,990
one in crewe as well
Volkswagen Golf 2.0 TSI GTI Clubsport Edition 40 DSG 5-Dr
Finished in Metallic Carbon Grey with Multicolour Sports seats Cloth interior
£38,990
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That must surely be more than the list price?!
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more than i paid for sure, and i loaded mine a bit with extras :laugh:
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They do realise they are selling VW Golf's, and aren't an OPC flipping a GT4 or GT3RS...
Some people...
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Aidey,
Did you get a number plaque with your Clubsport?
We didn't for some reason, being chased up with VW now.
Dave
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I did yes
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/welshade/IMG_2204_zpskkxduakj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/welshade/media/IMG_2204_zpskkxduakj.jpg.html)
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I've given up on my CS now, stupid amounts of delay
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I've given up on my CS now, stupid amounts of delay
Mines in transit now. On the three week marker. This wait is so hard!
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How long was yours in the building phase for?
Mine's been there for 2 weeks.
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How long was yours in the building phase for?
Mine's been there for 2 weeks.
It was there for 16 days. Hate the idea if my car being stuck at a port.
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Thanks for that!
Yeah all that acidic seagull s**t
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As if by magic. The tracker has changed this morning to being near to the uk and is showing a ten day wait to get to dealer. How exciting is this!? From previous threads I think this means that it will have probably landed now in the U.K.? Midlands based. What are peoples experience of time scales from now?
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As if by magic. The tracker has changed this morning to being near to the uk and is showing a ten day wait to get to dealer. How exciting is this!? From previous threads I think this means that it will have probably landed now in the U.K.? Midlands based. What are peoples experience of time scales from now?
Depends how quick your dealer requests it's release. If it's Listers they are normally pretty good and in my experience it can be as little as a week to get it and PDI it and then have delivered to your dealer.
Good Luck 👍
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As if by magic. The tracker has changed this morning to being near to the uk and is showing a ten day wait to get to dealer. How exciting is this!? From previous threads I think this means that it will have probably landed now in the U.K.? Midlands based. What are peoples experience of time scales from now?
Depends how quick your dealer requests it's release. If it's Listers they are normally pretty good and in my experience it can be as little as a week to get it and PDI it and then have delivered to your dealer.
Good Luck 👍
Hi jb. Yes it is listers. Third new car from the same dealers in ten years so they do look after me. They say they will know more on Monday. Can't wait!
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My GTi is in for a service at JCB Medway today, they have a 3 door Oryx white, Clubsport, buckets, 18" wheels and DSG in the showroom..... I really must resist temptation and not talk to any sales people when I go to collect my own car later on!
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My GTi is in for a service at JCB Medway today, they have a 3 door Oryx white, Clubsport, buckets, 18" wheels and DSG in the showroom..... I really must resist temptation and not talk to any sales people when I go to collect my own car later on!
With your username surely you should be speaking to them when you go to see them :tongue:
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Sadly not, I have had this username since the '90's based on serial Porsche CS ownership, I do like the Golf CS, but at more than double the price of rarely used GTi PP, I don't think I will be taking the plunge... just yet!
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My GTi is in for a service at JCB Medway today, they have a 3 door Oryx white, Clubsport, buckets, 18" wheels and DSG in the showroom..... I really must resist temptation and not talk to any sales people when I go to collect my own car later on!
That's irritating when I've had to cancel mine because it's been delayed so long
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vipergts, by the time I got to the showroom to collect my car there were no sales people around.
I have no idea if it is list price or dreaded overs, it looked really good, I prefer a manual myself though.
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vipergts, by the time I got to the showroom to collect my car there were no sales people around.
I have no idea if it is list price or dreaded overs, it looked really good, I prefer a manual myself though.
I know the owner of JCB, maybe I should have ordered there
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For those who have got a Clubsport or anyone in the know, what is the insurance group ? I think the Gti PP is about 29 isn't it and the R about 30 ?
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So having been deadset on getting a Clubsport, then being put off by the price, I finally requested a finance quote via a broker and was told that the orders books are closed as of last Wednesday, but there are a number of cars in the pipeline that are spec confirmed but awaiting allocation to an owner.
So waiting to see what's in progress - I suspect they'll have every option under the sun to clear out the store room which will price them too dearly. Could turn out interesting...
The dealer is happy to honour the broker's discount on any car in the system which was circa 11%.
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Yep might get a bargin then.
As for insurance, for some reason the Clubsport was £13 less than the PP GTi, when we changed the vehicle details on our policy which was renewed in July.
Dave
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So having been deadset on getting a Clubsport, then being put off by the price, I finally requested a finance quote via a broker and was told that the orders books are closed as of last Wednesday, but there are a number of cars in the pipeline that are spec confirmed but awaiting allocation to an owner.
I wonder whether there are enough in the pipeline to reach the 1,000 units that they said would be the maximum imported? Hopefully there won't be more than the max number (as per Ed30s), even better, there might be less? Now that the order book has closed, I wonder if Lee (evo1986) would be able to find out how many in total will be coming to the UK (and maybe the colour split)?
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For those who have got a Clubsport or anyone in the know, what is the insurance group ? I think the Gti PP is about 29 isn't it and the R about 30 ?
My quote was onl £60 more than my old car which I was very surprised at.
Anybody going to fit a tracker? I suspect these will unfortunately have a high degree of stealibilty!
Hoping to pick mine up end of this week or certainly next week. 😃
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Yes definitely going for a tracker.
Even have one on the Transit. Better safe than sorry.
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It's just the subscription fees seem extortionate but I suppose should the worst happen then it's a small price to pay.
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So, I have a list of 17 unallocated cars. None of them quite right.
Looks like I will have to forego the bucket seats which I'm coming round to. But really struggling with having to go with tornado red...
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So, I have a list of 17 unallocated cars. None of them quite right.
Looks like I will have to forego the bucket seats which I'm coming round to. But really struggling with having to go with tornado red...
Do you know if they have any silver ones 3 door?
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Red looks quite good: https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/photos/a.205006659529337.58107.198610216835648/1411845368845454/?type=3&theater
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So, I have a list of 17 unallocated cars. None of them quite right.
Looks like I will have to forego the bucket seats which I'm coming round to. But really struggling with having to go with tornado red...
Do you know if they have any silver ones 3 door?
Sadly not, but if they had you would of found yourself number 2 in the queue!! It's red, DBP or white white white for 3 doors.
The DBP has the seats but I know how hard it is to look after and I think you'll lose some of the black detail.
Interestingly there are no 3 doors with DSG. I have queried this.
Silver 5 door if you fancy?
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Red looks quite good: https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/photos/a.205006659529337.58107.198610216835648/1411845368845454/?type=3&theater
Yeah I agree, but I have never liked red previously. I think the black roof helps. But then you see a 3 door in carbon or silver...
Bring back mistral grey!
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I spotted a silver one on the GTI world FB page and have to admit I thought it looked stunning
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Carbon Grey one with Buckets in Crewe.
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Carbon Grey one with Buckets in Crewe.
Love the carbon grey, and buckets would be a must for me. I also think the red looks fantastic. I usually like silver but the one at my dealer just didn't appeal to me.
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Red looks quite good: https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/photos/a.205006659529337.58107.198610216835648/1411845368845454/?type=3&theater
TR is a fantastic colour and mixes well with the black CS details. If I was buying now that'd be the one for me.
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Anyone know of a dealer with a red one ? Ideally brescias, buckets and manual ?
Plenty white ones about that's for sure..
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Have a search on the used section of the VW site and Autotrader.
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Red looks quite good: https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/photos/a.205006659529337.58107.198610216835648/1411845368845454/?type=3&theater
TR is a fantastic colour and mixes well with the black CS details. If I was buying now that'd be the one for me.
I agree, really suits the car - I just don't like it.
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Red looks quite good: https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/photos/a.205006659529337.58107.198610216835648/1411845368845454/?type=3&theater
TR is a fantastic colour and mixes well with the black CS details. If I was buying now that'd be the one for me.
I agree, really suits the car - I just don't like it.
If there ever was one Golf variant that red would not look out of place that would be the CS but I still think Golfs are not meant to be "red cars". It's something in the name, heritage and character/personality that just doesn't make it look good in red in my eyes and it would take many future CS's to change that. Then again red is a very special car color for me and few cars feel right in it anyway.
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I'm not sure if it's still on but there's a clubport on autotrader in grey,it looks really good,would be my choice.
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Red looks quite good: https://www.facebook.com/gtiworld/photos/a.205006659529337.58107.198610216835648/1411845368845454/?type=3&theater
TR is a fantastic colour and mixes well with the black CS details. If I was buying now that'd be the one for me.
I agree, really suits the car - I just don't like it.
If there ever was one Golf variant that red would not look out of place that would be the CS but I still think Golfs are not meant to be "red cars". It's something in the name, heritage and character/personality that just doesn't make it look good in red in my eyes and it would take many future CS's to change that. Then again red is a very special car color for me and few cars feel right in it anyway.
I mostly agree in that a humdrum model doesn't suit red but the sporting Golfs do look good with the flashy large alloys and black accents, gives them a more exciting look to my eye. Plus, in my opinion, when washed and waxed few colours look as good as TR. As smart as carbon grey looks, and originally was the colour I wanted, it is just a bit too subtle for a mid life crisis :laugh:
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Some pics of white and red side by side for those that can't decide :grin:
http://auto.ltn.com.tw/news/6461/2
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After a load of empty promises and some incorrect info from VW UK, I either order a car that's not to my choice of spec and may not be built, or give up on it. Or look used.
Unless a miracle crops up, I think I'll have to leave it.
ED45 it is then!
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Carbon Grey one with Buckets in Crewe.
Just spoke to them, it's a DSG 5 door at just under £38k
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So, I have a list of 17 unallocated cars. None of them quite right.
Looks like I will have to forego the bucket seats which I'm coming round to. But really struggling with having to go with tornado red...
Do you know if they have any silver ones 3 door?
Sadly not, but if they had you would of found yourself number 2 in the queue!! It's red, DBP or white white white for 3 doors.
The DBP has the seats but I know how hard it is to look after and I think you'll lose some of the black detail.
Interestingly there are no 3 doors with DSG. I have queried this.
Silver 5 door if you fancy?
There was a 3 door DSG with buckets at my dealer. Been sold this week I believe, but it did not fit your criteria as it was red.
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So, I have a list of 17 unallocated cars. None of them quite right.
Looks like I will have to forego the bucket seats which I'm coming round to. But really struggling with having to go with tornado red...
Do you know if they have any silver ones 3 door?
Sadly not, but if they had you would of found yourself number 2 in the queue!! It's red, DBP or white white white for 3 doors.
The DBP has the seats but I know how hard it is to look after and I think you'll lose some of the black detail.
Interestingly there are no 3 doors with DSG. I have queried this.
Silver 5 door if you fancy?
There was a 3 door DSG with buckets at my dealer. Been sold this week I believe, but it did not fit your criteria as it was red.
Thanks! I've left it just a bit too late!
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Maybe too late for buying new. Seen this one?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-gti-clubsport-edition-40-dsg-3dr/6355549
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Maybe too late for buying new. Seen this one?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-gti-clubsport-edition-40-dsg-3dr/6355549
Yeah I saw it on autotrader but realistically I want a fairly basic spec at up to £30k. Leather, DSG, sunroof etc all adds a fair chunk.
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Maybe too late for buying new. Seen this one?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-gti-clubsport-edition-40-dsg-3dr/6355549
Yeah I saw it on autotrader but realistically I want a fairly basic spec at up to £30k. Leather, DSG, sunroof etc all adds a fair chunk.
Jeez these prices! Makes my 12% off list seem like I won the jackpot. Are people buying at these levels?
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Maybe too late for buying new. Seen this one?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-gti-clubsport-edition-40-dsg-3dr/6355549
Yeah I saw it on autotrader but realistically I want a fairly basic spec at up to £30k. Leather, DSG, sunroof etc all adds a fair chunk.
Jeez these prices! Makes my 12% off list seem like I won the jackpot. Are people buying at these levels?
Great discount I could not get one from any of my local dealers or carwow, so did not take the plunge.
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Maybe too late for buying new. Seen this one?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-gti-clubsport-edition-40-dsg-3dr/6355549
Yeah I saw it on autotrader but realistically I want a fairly basic spec at up to £30k. Leather, DSG, sunroof etc all adds a fair chunk.
Jeez these prices! Makes my 12% off list seem like I won the jackpot. Are people buying at these levels?
I was offered 11% off and would of jumped in at that price (about £29k) but the dealer can no longer get the right car. I'm not desperate enough to part with £37k!
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Maybe too late for buying new. Seen this one?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/golf-gti-mk7/volkswagen-golf-2-0-gti-clubsport-edition-40-dsg-3dr/6355549
Yeah I saw it on autotrader but realistically I want a fairly basic spec at up to £30k. Leather, DSG, sunroof etc all adds a fair chunk.
Jeez these prices! Makes my 12% off list seem like I won the jackpot. Are people buying at these levels?
Great discount I could not get one from any of my local dealers or carwow, so did not take the plunge.
That's a shame. Each dealer was able to offer discounts if they had wanted to, mine used a fleet budget. Whatever that means. I was between this and a GTI PP and with the model I wanted, I paid around 4K more for the CS. Whilst that is a fair chunk of change, after test driving one it is well worth the difference. IMHO.
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My local dealer group had a zero discount order from head office. And despite the fact that I had bought many cars from the group, including 4 in the last 4 years, they would not budge, despite pleas by my contact to head office. I would have preferred to have bought locally, but their loss, order was placed elsewhere with a big discount. I've got a provisional build week 49 and I'm really looking forward to getting it. :cool:
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Build week 45 for mine - cannot wait, so hopefully a pre Xmas delivery. Did not get any top line discount but received an inflated Part Ex and a few bits thrown in for free so I reckon 5% in total.
Question to the few who have already got their cars with standard wheels - what tyres did it come with - the dreaded S001s?
Paul
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Build week 45 for mine - cannot wait, so hopefully a pre Xmas delivery. Did not get any top line discount but received an inflated Part Ex and a few bits thrown in for free so I reckon 5% in total.
Question to the few who have already got their cars with standard wheels - what tyres did it come with - the dreaded S001s?
Paul
Yes... mine already replaced with Michelin PS4
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Thanks for the update Jan.
I will be changing to PS4s too - they made such a difference to my standard GTI. PS4s and a pedal box and that's it for me in terms of mods.
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Can't be long now.... Feels like blooming ages. However the end is in sight. Handover Monday! 😃😃
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Game over for me - left it too late. Bit annoying as I wasn't financially able to commit to the car when it was released, had I known how long it would take to arrive it may be a different story.
If anyone is interested, VW has a lot of orders in the system for cars that were never allocated to a
Customer. They won't be built, if you are in the same position as me you are looking for a cancelled order ex-demo car now. Both of which are pretty rare and priced to the RRP.
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Game over for me - left it too late. Bit annoying as I wasn't financially able to commit to the car when it was released, had I known how long it would take to arrive it may be a different story.
If anyone is interested, VW has a lot of orders in the system for cars that were never allocated to a
Customer. They won't be built, if you are in the same position as me you are looking for a cancelled order ex-demo car now. Both of which are pretty rare and priced to the RRP.
That's a real shame, I feel for you. Have you checked with Lee (evo1986) on this forum - he is a manager with Inchape and he posts all the dealer updates on here (and he also does good deals for forum members)? If there is a way of getting you a car I'm sure he'd be the man to speak to. Send him a PM.
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Game over for me - left it too late. Bit annoying as I wasn't financially able to commit to the car when it was released, had I known how long it would take to arrive it may be a different story.
If anyone is interested, VW has a lot of orders in the system for cars that were never allocated to a
Customer. They won't be built, if you are in the same position as me you are looking for a cancelled order ex-demo car now. Both of which are pretty rare and priced to the RRP.
That's a real shame, I feel for you. Have you checked with Lee (evo1986) on this forum - he is a manager with Inchape and he posts all the dealer updates on here (and he also does good deals for forum members)? If there is a way of getting you a car I'm sure he'd be the man to speak to. Send him a PM.
Yeah I have - he told me there was basically no chance before the other dealers wised up. As usual he was ahead of the game with his info, just the wrong info!!
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Game over for me - left it too late. Bit annoying as I wasn't financially able to commit to the car when it was released, had I known how long it would take to arrive it may be a different story.
If anyone is interested, VW has a lot of orders in the system for cars that were never allocated to a
Customer. They won't be built, if you are in the same position as me you are looking for a cancelled order ex-demo car now. Both of which are pretty rare and priced to the RRP.
That's a real shame, I feel for you. Have you checked with Lee (evo1986) on this forum - he is a manager with Inchape and he posts all the dealer updates on here (and he also does good deals for forum members)? If there is a way of getting you a car I'm sure he'd be the man to speak to. Send him a PM.
Yeah I have - he told me there was basically no chance before the other dealers wised up. As usual he was ahead of the game with his info, just the wrong info!!
What spec are you after? I may know of one!
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Game over for me - left it too late. Bit annoying as I wasn't financially able to commit to the car when it was released, had I known how long it would take to arrive it may be a different story.
If anyone is interested, VW has a lot of orders in the system for cars that were never allocated to a
Customer. They won't be built, if you are in the same position as me you are looking for a cancelled order ex-demo car now. Both of which are pretty rare and priced to the RRP.
That's a real shame, I feel for you. Have you checked with Lee (evo1986) on this forum - he is a manager with Inchape and he posts all the dealer updates on here (and he also does good deals for forum members)? If there is a way of getting you a car I'm sure he'd be the man to speak to. Send him a PM.
Yeah I have - he told me there was basically no chance before the other dealers wised up. As usual he was ahead of the game with his info, just the wrong info!!
What spec are you after? I may know of one!
3 door manual, with the buckets pref in carbon grey or silver.
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Apparently JCB Medway have one unsold in the showroom. Still there this morning
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Apparently JCB Medway have one unsold in the showroom. Still there this morning
Any idea of spec and or price?
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List I'd imagine, DSG and buckets
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List I'd imagine, DSG and buckets
5door? Colour? I would call them but currently have tonsillitis and struggling to talk!!!
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Well If I were that desperate for one I'd find a way to call them a bit lively before it's sold.
Info came to me through a third party
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Well If I were that desperate for one I'd find a way to call them a bit lively before it's sold.
Info came to me through a third party
Ok thanks, will do.
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orangewheels have a 5dr dsg in white with buckets, tints, brescia wheels and dynaudio
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orangewheels have a 5dr dsg in white with buckets, tints, brescia wheels and dynaudio
Orange wheels are just a broker aren't they? Their website still allows you to spec an order, but the dealer can't fulfill it.
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orangewheels have a 5dr dsg in white with buckets, tints, brescia wheels and dynaudio
Orange wheels are just a broker aren't they? Their website still allows you to spec an order, but the dealer can't fulfill it.
What about a 3dr white manual with buckets and wheel upgrade? Build week 44!
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orangewheels have a 5dr dsg in white with buckets, tints, brescia wheels and dynaudio
Orange wheels are just a broker aren't they? Their website still allows you to spec an order, but the dealer can't fulfill it.
What about a 3dr white manual with buckets and wheel upgrade? Build week 44!
Sounds more like it! What's the story? Maybe drop me a message.
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orangewheels have a 5dr dsg in white with buckets, tints, brescia wheels and dynaudio
Orange wheels are just a broker aren't they? Their website still allows you to spec an order, but the dealer can't fulfill it.
What about a 3dr white manual with buckets and wheel upgrade? Build week 44!
Sounds more like it! What's the story? Maybe drop me a message.
Will confirm it's still available in the morning and PM you then
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Ok thanks.
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Anyone know how to post's photos? I don't have photbucket or anything.
Was allowed to visit mine in the PDI centre today and..... it looks awesome. The wheels and seats look even better in real life.
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What number was it?
Sounds like visiting a prisoner.
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Hi Chaps,
Apologies for my first post being here offering cars but a friend pointed me here.
I may be able to offer a 5-Dr Clubsport DSG in high spec and potentially a Clubsport S too.
The S wont be here until Dec/Jan but the DSG will be here in a few weeks.
PM me if any interest.
GB
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http://(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/kitbag1984/3103FB4B-1A78-4FC6-823F-3F28C0D9EAC5_zpsa1rkqku6.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/kitbag1984/media/3103FB4B-1A78-4FC6-823F-3F28C0D9EAC5_zpsa1rkqku6.jpg.html)
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http://(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p712/kitbag1984/3103FB4B-1A78-4FC6-823F-3F28C0D9EAC5_zpsa1rkqku6.jpg) (http://s1347.photobucket.com/user/kitbag1984/media/3103FB4B-1A78-4FC6-823F-3F28C0D9EAC5_zpsa1rkqku6.jpg.html)
What did the wheels look like in the flesh?
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Looks great!! Bet you cannot wait to pick her up - the wait is agonising and mine has not even been built.
What week was it built?
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It wasn't clear to me from the photos but the "spokes" have the outer colour in silver and black on the inside. They looked really nice. And against the carbon gray and black bits they fit nicely.
Yes it's been a while. I put my deposit down in April and it was built late September. After seeing it though it is well worth it.
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I just don't like those wheels and think they should have been something special instead of something from an R Line. Sorry not meaning to upset the CS owners.
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I just don't like those wheels and think they should have been something special instead of something from an R Line. Sorry not meaning to upset the CS owners.
Kitbag's wheels are special forged alloys for the ED40 CS so you can't get much more unique to a model than that.
The Pretorias used as options are lightweight and although more familiar to UK users as the only option wheel on the R, it's less widely used globally where the Cadiz is offered in 18 and 19" flavour.
And the Brescias... well they're unique to the model. Enough said on that score.
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It wasn't clear to me from the photos but the "spokes" have the outer colour in silver and black on the inside. They looked really nice. And against the carbon gray and black bits they fit nicely.
Yes it's been a while. I put my deposit down in April and it was built late September. After seeing it though it is well worth it.
Kitbag, really liking your Clubsport. I think the wheels look great and IMO they work well with the Carbon Grey. :cool:
Enjoy your new car. Hope you'll be posting your 'thoughts on the Clubsport' once you've had a chance to put a few miles on the clock.
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Agree both the CS wheel options are a little marmite but I personally think the standard ones look great - I would like to see how much they would cost aftermarket being under 8 kg and forged and being forged they will be stronger than lightweight cast wheels.
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Agree both the CS wheel options are a little marmite but I personally think the standard ones look great - I would like to see how much they would cost aftermarket being under 8 kg and forged and being forged they will be stronger than lightweight cast wheels.
https://www.kunzmann.de/shop/en/wheels-18-inch-rims-belvedere-vw-golf-7-vii-gti-genuine-volkswagen.htm :smiley:
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Thanks for the link Watts.
I am really surprised how much some of the parts are, especially the Cadiz wheels.
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You can get secondhand ones from dealers with minor marks on ebay too. But new seems better value comparatively to me.
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Put winters on last week and asked the guy if we could weigh the stock Belvedere as I thought 7.6kg sounded very optimistic but it's true :shocked:... That's seriously light-weight, let alone for a stock wheel, VW didn't cut any corners there...
Makes me want to stick with those wheels now for summer instead of buying an aftermarket set for track/summer tyres as I originally intended, can't possibly get even close to that lightness without spending silly money. Most light-weight aftermarket 18" are between 9kg-8kg.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/No_need_2_r_gue/Clubsport/public/2016-11-25%2010.31.44_zps8tlhsrhn.jpg)
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Lovely wheel. That it's very light as well is just a bonus :drool:
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Any idea how much the 19'' Pretoria's weigh?
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9.3kg roughly according to vwroc
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Cheers, quite a bit heavier but are a 19 which will account for part of extra weight.
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Any idea how much the 19'' Pretoria's weigh?
9.6kg to be precise, of-course it's a 19" but still a whole 2kg heavier than the Belvedere, still can't believe VW treated us with such a great wheel in stock form...
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Had a great weekend blast in my Clubsport, the worst thing still being local boy racers intent on pushing up for a race, its annoying and i cant be arsed with it.
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Mrs LRWmotorsport took a break from driving ours so I gave it a clean.
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/LRWMotorsport/IMG_0720_zpskr95ngjc.jpg)
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^^^Very nice. :cool: Do clubsports come with a space saver spare wheel?
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Yes they do,
In the true spirit of lightweight performance Mrs LRWmotorsport spec'd a sub woofer in ours.
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^^^Thanks.
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Gave mine a clean yesterday after the weekend road filth...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5613/31369306401_496867df0c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PMZTUn)Golf Gti Clubsport (https://flic.kr/p/PMZTUn) by Adrian Owen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/aideyowen/), on Flickr
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Aidey, that looks mega, really smart and the wheels really suit it too.
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Cheers Mate, yea its my favourite VW that ive owned for sure
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Lovely. :cool: 90% rear tints?
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The rear tints were on the options list nit sure in the % factor
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The rear tints were on the options list nit sure in the % factor
The rears do have a heavier tint than the fronts at 65%, but if you hit the option button you get 90% instead.
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nice one, well i went with tne option, thought it would suit the look and colour
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Look like 90% to me.
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The only issue i have with my car is the reccaro seat, im not sure if mine has failed or developed a fault, before i ring my dealer i'll ask here, when im sat in it and push back it is now making quite a bad creaking noise, it was slight when i first had it, but over the last week it has got a lot worse, so when im driving and brake or corner, any shift in body weight, and im only 12 stone at the moment, the seat creaks ... anyone else thats owns have this
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Several owners in Germany are having similar issues with the bucket seats, for that very reason I went with the standard option. From what I understand going by the information on the link below the issues are not easily resolved. Do hope you get yours sorted out.
http://www.golf7gti.com/topic.php?t=7146&page=1
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The only issue i have with my car is the reccaro seat, im not sure if mine has failed or developed a fault, before i ring my dealer i'll ask here, when im sat in it and push back it is now making quite a bad creaking noise, it was slight when i first had it, but over the last week it has got a lot worse, so when im driving and brake or corner, any shift in body weight, and im only 12 stone at the moment, the seat creaks ... anyone else thats owns have this
That's an issue I couldn't live with on an old car, let alone a brand new Golf!
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The only issue i have with my car is the reccaro seat, im not sure if mine has failed or developed a fault, before i ring my dealer i'll ask here, when im sat in it and push back it is now making quite a bad creaking noise, it was slight when i first had it, but over the last week it has got a lot worse, so when im driving and brake or corner, any shift in body weight, and im only 12 stone at the moment, the seat creaks ... anyone else thats owns have this
Strangely, mine and a friend's in Germany (also with buckets) are fine. I asked another guy in Sweden with the seat noise to send me a vid with it, just to make sure I wasn't filtering out anything due to excitement about the car and the creak definitely isn't there in mine. Guess it's pure lack that some suffer and others don't, but if that's the case it should mean there is a solution to it I imagine?
On the other hand I have the fuel lines rattle which is an easy fix but most CS owners don't seem to have it, you can't get 100% lucky I guess...
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Ive seen one vid with the seats making a clunky noise but its not that, mine have the plastic creak noise, everytime bodyweight is shifted into the seat. I have emailed the dealer but i dont think much will be done
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Progress ..... i had a look under the seat, at the back there are two parts touching and when i move these rub, causing the noise, bit of lubrication and solved.. no more creaking :nerd:
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Progress ..... i had a look under the seat, at the back there are two parts touching and when i move these rub, causing the noise, bit of lubrication and solved.. no more creaking :nerd:
Good news and good to know just in case mine creak in the same way.
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Progress ..... i had a look under the seat, at the back there are two parts touching and when i move these rub, causing the noise, bit of lubrication and solved.. no more creaking :nerd:
Mine creak a bit will try this any chance of a photo of where you lubricated? And what did u use?
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sorry for the late reply, heres a pic, i ran good old wd40 along that line where the two materials meet,
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5589/31461317801_524324e20a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PW8tFP)IMG_2485 (https://flic.kr/p/PW8tFP) by Adrian Owen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/aideyowen/), on Flickr
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Picked up my Clubsport on Thursday from the local dealer who have been great.
I went for a 3 door in Silver with the buckets and dynaudio. The silver really contrasts with the black parts of the Clubsport and I will post pictures when I figure out how to do this but there have been plenty of posts with images of shiny new Clubsports - no regrets on colour choice or spec.
The seats are fantastic and thankfully no squeaks (yet!) they are super supportive, comfortable and looks the bees knees. I love the nice little features such as the small recall badge on the side of the bolster etc. The other special parts are great too, the steering wheel has a great feel, I just hope it is durable.
Mine was allocated number 275 so I am not sure how these numbers are allocated - I ordered end of August. I would really like to understand how many were sold in total - can anyone confirm? I went for the standard wheels, which I love and probably would have specced them as an option due to the weight and the classic look of them.
First drive, the throttle response is improved so no immediate need for a pedal box - much of the lag experienced in the standard GTI has been removed. The gear change is more positive - perhaps the engine and transmission mounts are firmer, I am not sure but in my previous car I installed a 034 dog bone mount to firm things up a bit but do not think it is needed in this car. The steering initially felt too light which I am sure is due to the wheels. I understand they are around 5 kg lighter each corner, which will have a huge influence at speed. The steering is direct and has a great feel especially when pushing on. I found out yesterday when I took the car round some local roads A272, A32 and some of the smaller roads I used to ride years ago. You really feel the difference in the car once it is loaded and I am seriously impressed. It feels a very different car to the standard GTI. My previous car was a non PP, so may be the PP has some of the qualities I am experiencing with the Clubsport but it feels mostly suspension/bushing related. The car's control is just fantastic, it is more pointy, it feels tauter and simply more precise but it has not lost any of the compliancy. The car feels fluid and it absorbs undulations and bumps etc without getting unsettled. The car is shod with S001s at the moment. Perhaps VW have improved the OEM spec. If not then I cannot imagine how good the car will be with a good tyre!
Traction is great too and throttle inputs that would have engaged the TC in the previous car - in this car, it just translates to forward motion. Perhaps the GTI with the smaller turbo has a more aggressive initial torque delivery, which results in the traction issues.
Brakes compared to non PP seem a little stronger but the difference is not that noticeable however I have not just them in earnest yet. The engine is smooth and pulls very well but with only 150 miles on the clock, it still feels tight and I have not gone over 5000 revs but with full throttle in 3,4 or 5 the car feels quick. I will update when the car has more miles on the clock. The exhaust sounds better, it has a nice burble to it and The sound seems to get deeper just over 5000 revs so I cannot wait to really stretch the car as the extra power should be more noticeable at the top end as there are only 20 additional torques at the lower end but you can feel a difference. I will wait until at least 500 miles before given the car some proper beans.
So I am very smitten an look forward to owning this car for many years. Would be interested to hear the views of other UK Clubsport owners. Thanks to Scanesare for his great reviews. It was your reviews that made be order the car in the first place, so thank you.
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Test - image pre PDI
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Car on pick up
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Car on pick up
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That looks awesome in silver. Nice choice
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Really great write up, thanks. :smiley: Looking forward to an update once you've done the miles. Car looks good in silver and the colour contrasts nicely with the black parts. :cool:
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Looks smart, take it easy, then give it a good battering like i did at about 800 miles lol....
Let us know about your seats, mine have started creaking again :rolleyes:
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Looks great in silver and nice spec :smiley: I love the driving characteristics of my PP so can only imagine the improvements you describe. Good write up too, keep us updated!
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Picked up my Clubsport on Thursday from the local dealer who have been great.
I went for a 3 door in Silver with the buckets and dynaudio. The silver really contrasts with the black parts of the Clubsport and I will post pictures when I figure out how to do this but there have been plenty of posts with images of shiny new Clubsports - no regrets on colour choice or spec.
The seats are fantastic and thankfully no squeaks (yet!) they are super supportive, comfortable and looks the bees knees. I love the nice little features such as the small recall badge on the side of the bolster etc. The other special parts are great too, the steering wheel has a great feel, I just hope it is durable.
Mine was allocated number 275 so I am not sure how these numbers are allocated - I ordered end of August. I would really like to understand how many were sold in total - can anyone confirm? I went for the standard wheels, which I love and probably would have specced them as an option due to the weight and the classic look of them.
First drive, the throttle response is improved so no immediate need for a pedal box - much of the lag experienced in the standard GTI has been removed. The gear change is more positive - perhaps the engine and transmission mounts are firmer, I am not sure but in my previous car I installed a 034 dog bone mount to firm things up a bit but do not think it is needed in this car. The steering initially felt too light which I am sure is due to the wheels. I understand they are around 5 kg lighter each corner, which will have a huge influence at speed. The steering is direct and has a great feel especially when pushing on. I found out yesterday when I took the car round some local roads A272, A32 and some of the smaller roads I used to ride years ago. You really feel the difference in the car once it is loaded and I am seriously impressed. It feels a very different car to the standard GTI. My previous car was a non PP, so may be the PP has some of the qualities I am experiencing with the Clubsport but it feels mostly suspension/bushing related. The car's control is just fantastic, it is more pointy, it feels tauter and simply more precise but it has not lost any of the compliancy. The car feels fluid and it absorbs undulations and bumps etc without getting unsettled. The car is shod with S001s at the moment. Perhaps VW have improved the OEM spec. If not then I cannot imagine how good the car will be with a good tyre!
Traction is great too and throttle inputs that would have engaged the TC in the previous car - in this car, it just translates to forward motion. Perhaps the GTI with the smaller turbo has a more aggressive initial torque delivery, which results in the traction issues.
Brakes compared to non PP seem a little stronger but the difference is not that noticeable however I have not just them in earnest yet. The engine is smooth and pulls very well but with only 150 miles on the clock, it still feels tight and I have not gone over 5000 revs but with full throttle in 3,4 or 5 the car feels quick. I will update when the car has more miles on the clock. The exhaust sounds better, it has a nice burble to it and The sound seems to get deeper just over 5000 revs so I cannot wait to really stretch the car as the extra power should be more noticeable at the top end as there are only 20 additional torques at the lower end but you can feel a difference. I will wait until at least 500 miles before given the car some proper beans.
So I am very smitten an look forward to owning this car for many years. Would be interested to hear the views of other UK Clubsport owners. Thanks to Scanesare for his great reviews. It was your reviews that made be order the car in the first place, so thank you.
Cheers Paul70, glad that I seem to have steered you into what sounds like a perfect choice for your like and that you confirm my findings and impressions on how well the Clubsport drives :wink: The traction will occasionally be an issue with the right combo of aggressive pedal input and poor road conditions but there are two crucial areas which seem to be perfect on this car: the steering feel and the overall suspension-chassis balance. Having had modified cars in the past I think the CS has found the sweet spot between comfort, steering and damping. If the main requirement is anything less than frequent, competitive track days I don't feel there is any need to alter anything suspension-wise and it will be the first car on which I might actually settle for the stock setup.
How do you find the interior? For me it was the second best thing about it. Sitting in it even with the engine off, especially the front area (with the buckets of-course) gave me a feeling of being in something very sporty and special which you can only get in ultra sports two-seaters of double the price and up... I think that is in fact what might make me stick with it longer than planned.
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Car on pick up
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Wow that looks really nice in silver with the contrast, and works perfectly with the lighter 18"s, perfect choice imo.
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That does look very nice in silver. :cool:
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Looks smart, take it easy, then give it a good battering like i did at about 800 miles lol....
Let us know about your seats, mine have started creaking again :rolleyes:
Have you tried this stuff, I have not used it myself but if my buckets start creaking this is what I am going to try: http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/17340-driver-door-vibration-and-creaking/ (It's on ebay.)
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Thanks i might give that a try, but next stop will be the dealers after christmas for them to have a look.
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Looks smart, take it easy, then give it a good battering like i did at about 800 miles lol....
Let us know about your seats, mine have started creaking again :rolleyes:
Have you tried this stuff, I have not used it myself but if my buckets start creaking this is what I am going to try: http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/17340-driver-door-vibration-and-creaking/ (It's on ebay.)
Thanks for that link too, my driver's door has always been creaky so will try the recommended seal lubricant. :smiley:
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Thanks for the comments guys. It was the interior is one of the main things that drew me to the car in the first place. The exterior has grown on me.
It's not until you are sitting in the car, you appreciate all of the touches VW have made. I agree it is a special place. People who sit in the car just say 'it's a nice place to be'. I am sure there are something I am not yet aware of.
The only disappointment is I miss the strip lighting on the door and the footwell lighting but this is a minor point.
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Deposit paid today, looking forward to GTI ownership... :smiley:
(http://www.rwleigh.com/GTI.jpg)
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Looks very nice rwleigh. Congratulations on the new purchase and welcome to the club. Is this you first GTI? Is that the pearlescent white?
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Car on pick up
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I am biased with a silver 3dr R but that looks stunning and would have been my spec choice. I went into VW in April to order a CS but the deals weren't there hence ending up with an R.
Enjoy it looks a great car.
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Looks very nice rwleigh. Congratulations on the new purchase and welcome to the club. Is this you first GTI? Is that the pearlescent white?
Cheers, first GTI and pure white...
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Been following my CS and the tracker has just changed to "In transit" today. :smiley: I wonder if there are any ships operating over the next couple of weeks, or will it just be stuck at the port until the new year?
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I'd guess at the ships only taking the minimum time off if any at all.
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I've been following them. One docked in Grimsby (where mine will be going) yesterday and is now on its way back to Emden and there's another on the way now. Tracker still hasn't moved, it's showing 4 weeks to dealer. :sad:
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Forget my fix for squeeky seats :whistle:
Its only lasted a week or so before returning , so the next step is booking it into the dealers for them to hear it when i have time off work next...
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4000 miles on Mrs LRWmotorsports CS and no squeaks from the Recaros.
Dropped the oil out @3.5k for the sake of it, reported back that it was all nice and clean.
Wouldn't mind a drive in it at some point.....
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Hi all, Hopefully someone can shed some light on an issue with my CS order
Car was BW50, all seemed good according to tracker built and changed to in transit 16th December, All good i thought, so 4 weeks later and still no change on tracker
I get a phone call from dealership today as they have been chasing as they expected it by now, Turns out it hasn't left the factory at all and is waiting on a software update, No more info available from VWUK than that
Has anyone else experienced this at all??
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4000 miles on Mrs LRWmotorsports CS and no squeaks from the Recaros.
Dropped the oil out @3.5k for the sake of it, reported back that it was all nice and clean.
Wouldn't mind a drive in it at some point.....
Blimey, MrsLRW is certainly enjoying it. :evil: I don't do that mileage in a year. :grin:
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Hi all, Hopefully someone can shed some light on an issue with my CS order
Car was BW50, all seemed good according to tracker built and changed to in transit 16th December, All good i thought, so 4 weeks later and still no change on tracker
I get a phone call from dealership today as they have been chasing as they expected it by now, Turns out it hasn't left the factory at all and is waiting on a software update, No more info available from VWUK than that
Has anyone else experienced this at all??
I'm the same and from what you've said we are at the same dealership. CSS owners had the same problem a few weeks ago, car built but stuck at the factory awaiting a software update. My guess is that they are all issued with Golf R ECUs which are 300ps (they have the same engine), so they need an update to give them the correct output (CSS were 310ps).
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Yeah I'd read about the CSS having to wait for the update. Just never the CS.
Shame VWUK don't actually tell the dealers about these things let alone customers
Could well be the same dealer as the girl I have been dealing with said she had another one right behind mine, VW Chester mine's coming from
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My CS was BB48 which I shall be taking delivery of this week, how are those CS built prior to BB50 meant to get this software update but only through the VW dealership network. I find it hard to believe that the factory allows cars to build up just to get a software update when it can so easily be done at the dealership.
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My CS was BB48 which I shall be taking delivery of this week, how are those CS built prior to BB50 meant to get this software update but only through the VW dealership network. I find it hard to believe that the factory allows cars to build up just to get a software update when it can so easily be done at the dealership.
If it's adjusting the power output it needs to be done before it is released from the factory. If that is the reason for the update yours will have already been done.
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My CS was BB48 which I shall be taking delivery of this week, how are those CS built prior to BB50 meant to get this software update but only through the VW dealership network. I find it hard to believe that the factory allows cars to build up just to get a software update when it can so easily be done at the dealership.
If it's adjusting the power output it needs to be done before it is released from the factory. If that is the reason for the update yours will have already been done.
Unfortunately that doesn't explain the build weeks before 50.
They aren't going to produce the cars and then leave them sitting for 3 or 4 weeks before having an update.
If it is just the ECU needing flashed this could be done at the PDI.
Not meaning to cause alarm but any lengthy delay in the process would ring alarm bells for me.
All sounds a bit iffy.
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If it's to do with power output there is no way VW would leave it to the dealers to do. I do agree, however, that they have been stood a long time so there could be more to it than just the software update. I know my dealer is working very hard to get to the bottom of it, so it's just a waiting game at the moment.
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Just spoken to VW Customer Service, despite being built 4 weeks ago, my CS is still stuck at the factory awaiting a software update. Unbelievable.
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Just spoken to VW Customer Service, despite being built 4 weeks ago, my CS is still stuck at the factory awaiting a software update. Unbelievable.
What spec is it? Seems strange
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Just spoken to VW Customer Service, despite being built 4 weeks ago, my CS is still stuck at the factory awaiting a software update. Unbelievable.
What spec is it? Seems strange
Apparently it's not just my CS, they are slowly working through a backlog of them doing the update. As I mentioned a number of posts above, my guess is it's something to do with the power output. But 4 weeks, that's crap after waiting nearly 4 months for it to be built.....
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presumably anything that already landed at a dealer would already have been done or did not need it ? Seems a bit strange to me but assume the factory wouldn't let a car leave if it wasn't "right" ?
Maybe it is the new emissions cheat "patch"
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After nearly 5 weeks the tracker on the VW website has moved from "Car on its way - will take an average of 4 weeks to get to the dealer" to "Car on its way - will take an average or 3 weeks to get to the dealer". :rolleyes: Looks like it may be a 1st March delivery.
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Here for the spring :cool:
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Anyone else take livery of their Cs lately ?
All the talk of facelift I nearly forgot I haven't seen mine yet !! Must admit I quite like the facelift car and the new half leather seats..
Hope I don't regret going for the CS.. Sure when I see it in the flesh I won't. Hoping to get to the dealer this weekend and see it and get some pics..
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Mine arrived a week ago but I'm leaving it for a March delivery seeing it's so close. I do like the look of the 7.5 GTI, but I have no regrets about getting the CS - special edition, exclusivity, more horsepower etc. etc.
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Bit of advice needed here on my clubsport dsg, im noticing a weird thing happening when driving around my town, when im coming up to say a corner and taking it easy i seem to lose power, hard to explain but its like the revs drop right off and theres nothing there as you come out of the corner, did not have this with my last gti dsg so im wondering if its just my driving style or if there is a known fault out there?
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Strange you should mention that I get the same kind of thing in my normal GTI as you come out of a corner or turn into a junction there is nothing there, it is as if its trying to select the correct gear but there is a delay before you get anything.
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Right, im not the only one then.... its a strange one for sure, like you say its as if the car pauses thinking about what to do...
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In what mode? D? And under which conditions? Breaking as you approach a junction and then accelerating? Gearboxes don't have any particular issue with coming out of corners, it's probably down to the driving scenario you're into and the DSG being in auto mode trying to figure out what comes next. If this happens in Manual mode then it's a different story.
I haven't noticed that with mine and I'm coming from a 7-Speed dry DSG that was infamous for "dying" just before entering roundabouts, that was solved by either using S mode or Manual. I drive 95% in Manual though so I don't have this or any other "DSG logic" issue.
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D mode as im approaching and entering a slow corner, just like a roundabout situation, can see the revs drop right off and no power, like said it must be deciding what to do next.... just feels a bit weird and dont remember it happening on my previous gti