Author Topic: GTI Clubsport.....Can't be long now  (Read 254615 times)

Offline volkswizard

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 337
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #440 on: 17 April 2016, 08:11 »

So your R experiences haven't put you off mk7 Golfs then Andrew?  :lipsrsealed:
Or is this to be mothballed and put away for your pension fund?  :laugh:
It'll certainly be interesting to hear your thoughts on a CS once you've driven/owned one with your vast experience of different performance VW's/Audis/SEATs etc

Let's just say I will be choosing a colour that hides scratches and chips better than Lapiz Blue  :wink:

Going by the Mk1 GTI's slow appreciation in value, I will be dead before the GTI Clubsport starts to become a useful pension fund.  There a better cars to invest in in the longer term, the CS may appreciate a bit but it will drop to probably 30% of new value before it starts to go the other way.

The BMW 1M was a similar philosophy to the CS (no previous Anniversary/Edition x models have such a skunkworks feel about them) but they only imported 450 1Ms and the brand has a far stronger motorsport heritage which is key to investment potential - I just looked and one with 7 miles on the clock is up at £75000!  In a collection, a 1M will look right, I just can't see that for a humble Golf but I guess it depends how many they sell.


« Last Edit: 17 April 2016, 10:33 by volkswizard »

Offline wantmygti

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,140
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #441 on: 17 April 2016, 09:34 »
Been offered a clubsport via car wow with 9.7%

From which dealer??

One in Plymouth. The rest offered no discount. Called and left a message for the lady but no call back as yet


I have also been offered 9.7% from them.
2017 GTi Clubsport arrived June 2017
2007 Shadow Blue GTi, sold on after 10 years ownership

Offline Exonian

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,289
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #442 on: 17 April 2016, 10:33 »

So your R experiences haven't put you off mk7 Golfs then Andrew?  :lipsrsealed:
Or is this to be mothballed and put away for your pension fund?  :laugh:
It'll certainly be interesting to hear your thoughts on a CS once you've driven/owned one with your vast experience of different performance VW's/Audis/SEATs etc

Let's just say I will be choosing a colour that hides scratches and chips better than Lapiz Blue  :wink:

Going by the Mk1 GTI's slow appreciation in value, I will be dead before the GTI Clubsport starts to become a useful pension fund.  There a better cars to invest in in the longer term, the CS may appreciate a bit but it will drop to probably 30% of new value before it starts to go the other way.

The BMW 1M was a similar philosophy to the CS (no previous Anniversary/Edition x models have such a skunkworks feel about them) but they only imported 450 1Ms and the brand has a far stronger motorsport heritage which is key to investment potential - I just looked and one with 7 miles on the clock is up at £75000!  In a collection, a 1M will look right, I just can't see that for a humble Golf but I guess it depends how many they sell.

After not having seen a 1M for a long time I saw two yesterday. Still can't get over how ugly they are (like most small BMWs) but indeed they are good investments. It's good to see them out on the roads though rather than sat in some fat collectors air conditioned barn.
Still I'm just a conditioned saloon car hater having grown up in the 70's and 80's I learned to despise saloon cars as they were just everywhere - as was brown and orange wallpaper with makes me gag to this day.
The mk1 Golf was a breath of fresh air to me when I was a kid and awakened my interest in cars when a neighbour bought a Campaign model back in 1983/4.
‘25 8.5R, ‘23 8R, ‘20 8CS, ‘19 135iX, ‘19 TCR, ‘17 Ed40, ‘17 GTD, ‘15 7R, ‘13 GTI PP, ‘11 GTI, ‘09 GTI, ‘98 Ibiza Cupra, ‘05 GTI, ‘06 Polo GTI, ‘04 GT TDI, ‘05 Fabia vRS, ‘02 GTI T, ‘03 Ibiza TDI 130, ‘01 Leon 180, ‘89 mk2 16v, ‘99 Ibiza TDI, ‘96 VR6, ‘98 Ibiza TDI, ‘92 VR6, ‘88 mk2 8v, ‘92 Polo G40, ‘91 mk2 8v, ‘89 mk2 8v, 205 GTI 1.9, ‘83 mk1 GTI, ‘80 Scirocco GTI, plus some others I’ve forgotten 

Offline HA54SYM`

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 694
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #443 on: 17 April 2016, 19:46 »
CLUBSPORT S

Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.

However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.

The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.

Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.

Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.

“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.

The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.

Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.

In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.

A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.

Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.

If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples. 
94 - Roversport Tomcat Racecar

Offline wantmygti

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,140
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #444 on: 17 April 2016, 20:35 »
Where can I find this £29k clubsport they talk about...?
2017 GTi Clubsport arrived June 2017
2007 Shadow Blue GTi, sold on after 10 years ownership

Offline volkswizard

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 337
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #445 on: 17 April 2016, 20:54 »
Great info, thanks, was trying to find out more after seeing the pics in the Nurburgring historic paddock

CLUBSPORT S

Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.

However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.

The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.

Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.

Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.

“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.

The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.

Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.

In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.

A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.

Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.

If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.

Offline Exonian

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 9,289
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #446 on: 17 April 2016, 21:02 »
CLUBSPORT S

Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.

However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.

The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.

Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.

Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.

“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.

The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.

Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.

In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.

A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.

Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.

If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.

Now *that* would be collectable.

‘25 8.5R, ‘23 8R, ‘20 8CS, ‘19 135iX, ‘19 TCR, ‘17 Ed40, ‘17 GTD, ‘15 7R, ‘13 GTI PP, ‘11 GTI, ‘09 GTI, ‘98 Ibiza Cupra, ‘05 GTI, ‘06 Polo GTI, ‘04 GT TDI, ‘05 Fabia vRS, ‘02 GTI T, ‘03 Ibiza TDI 130, ‘01 Leon 180, ‘89 mk2 16v, ‘99 Ibiza TDI, ‘96 VR6, ‘98 Ibiza TDI, ‘92 VR6, ‘88 mk2 8v, ‘92 Polo G40, ‘91 mk2 8v, ‘89 mk2 8v, 205 GTI 1.9, ‘83 mk1 GTI, ‘80 Scirocco GTI, plus some others I’ve forgotten 

Offline 2014GTi

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,012
  • Das Auto
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #447 on: 17 April 2016, 22:21 »
CLUBSPORT S

Volkswagen has developed a lightweight version of its recently unveiled Golf GTI Clubsport through to production maturity at the company’s Braunschweig research and development centre in Germany, a high-ranking official has revealed.

However, concerns over the 296bhp hot hatchback’s overtly sporting image at a time when VW is attempting to keep a low profile in the midst of the diesel emission manipulation scandal mean the racy two-seater may never be offered to customers.

The new, front-wheel-drive Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight was conceived as a road-legal race car in a bid to attract customers seeking a suitable offering for track day events, motorkhanas and hill climbs. Inspiration for the new model is claimed to have come from the Porsche 911 GT3 Clubsport.

Prototypes of the motorsport-inspired Volkswagen run a reworked version of the turbocharged 2.0-litre four-cylinder EA888 engine used in the standard Golf GTI Clubsport, mated to either a six-speed manual or dual-clutch automatic gearbox as well as an electronic differential.

Among the changes to the engine is an increase in turbocharger boost pressure and a higher ignition cut-out, with the result being a nominal power increase of 20bhp.

“We’ve increased the threshold so it delivers a permanent 300ps [296bhp], which is only achieved momentarily on the overboost in the Golf GTI Clubsport,” sources revealed.

The torque loading of the engine is said to remain the same at 280lb ft.

Further modifications are focused within the interior, which eschews the standard rear seat of the Golf GTi Clubsport. VW has also reduced the amount of sound deadening material in a bid to lower the standard car’s 1375kg kerb weight.

In standard trim, the £29,000 Golf GTI Clubsport boasts a 0-62mph time of 5.7sec and a limited 155mph top speed. With similar gearing, the secret new Lightweight version is claimed to offer even sharper performance.

A decision on whether the car will go into production rests with VW’s newly elected supervisory board, which is said to be concerned about the message the new car will project at a time when the company is under intense scrutiny following the diesel emissions scandal revelations.

Despite these concerns, Autocar understands VW may show the new Golf GTI Clubsport Lightweight at the Wörthersee fan meet to be held between 4 and 7 May before deciding whether it will be granted a definitive production green light.

If it does get the go-ahead, production will likely be limited to fewer than 100 examples.

Now *that* would be collectable.
Yup, bet the price will be more like £40k+ with probably all being LHD. Similar to the VW Beetle RSi and Audi A1 Quattro.
I'd be pretty cheesed off if they did make it though, a proper Clubsport as apposed to a tarted up GTI PP.
2014 Volkswagen Golf GTi
2004 Volkswagen Golf R32
2011 Volkswagen Polo Bluemotion
2001 SEAT Arosa TDi S
1999 John Cooper Mini Works S
2005 Vauxhall Astra SRI CDTi
2004 Volkswagen Golf R32
2002 Audi S3 quattro
1999 Peugeot 206 Grand Tourisme

Offline LRWmotorsport

  • Here all the time
  • ****
  • Posts: 270
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #448 on: 18 April 2016, 06:46 »
Where can I find this £29k clubsport they talk about...?
+VAT
2015 BRSCC PGTI Championship 2nd #55
2016 BRSCC PGTI Championship 2nd (again) #25 & BARC Intermarque
2017 BRSCC PGTI CHAMPIONS #24

Offline wantmygti

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,140
Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #449 on: 18 April 2016, 07:05 »
Where can I find this £29k clubsport they talk about...?
+VAT

Ha!!
2017 GTi Clubsport arrived June 2017
2007 Shadow Blue GTi, sold on after 10 years ownership