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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #250 on: 02 April 2016, 21:12 »
They are not Pretorias, they are 'Quaranta' alloys apparently.

Quaranta standard, black or silver prets are options along with Brescia.
Didn't see any mention of that but I only scanned the brochure quickly.
I certainly wouldn't pay a premium for them.
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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #251 on: 02 April 2016, 22:44 »
I think the standard CS wheels are nicest looking. The others look like deformed Santiago's.
The Pretorias look lovely but not £2.5k lovely!

How are they £2500? Either that black paint costs £1600, the tyres cost £1600 more than those on the R, or the Cadiz are worth £1600 more than the standard CS wheels in the first place.
I think the standard 18's (Quarantas?) are forged hence why the bendy Santiagos are only a £595 uplift (which is what Santiagos should cost as an upgrade on the other GTI/D models really).
The Preotorias are so expensive due to having fancy track day tyres on and SEAT do the same sort of thing with the Sub8 wheels on the Leon Cupra.


It'll be interesting, as a rule of thumb guide, to see the PCP GFV's on the CS just to see how much faith VW have in retained values in the short term with their limited edition model.
Yeah, sure, if petrol engines are still even legal in 30 years time the CS will be a collectors piece but short to mid term it'll be interesting to compare the actual £££ retained values against a PP GTI and an R.
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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #252 on: 03 April 2016, 07:56 »
Just returned form holiday to discover the Clubsport order books are open.  However if the on the road price is only a couple hundred less than a Golf R then surely it would make sense to just go for an R.  The Bucket Seats are even extra on the clubsport and the engine is detuned R engine so my money would probably go on a Golf R with this in mind.  If I were to configure the Clubsport as I would like it will probably cost more than the Golf R configuration I would spec? 

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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #253 on: 03 April 2016, 08:59 »
I would say that it would cost more with the current discounts on the R.

My trouble is I have thinking of the clubsport as my next car for sometime. I knew the discounts would probably not happen, but I was hoping it would be sub 30k to get the car. I have been thinking about keeping the car longer with it being limited edition as I don't daily drive my GTI anymore so was thinking it would be better than the R in 5 or 6 years as be more limited.

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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #254 on: 03 April 2016, 09:59 »
I would say that it would cost more with the current discounts on the R.

My trouble is I have thinking of the clubsport as my next car for sometime. I knew the discounts would probably not happen, but I was hoping it would be sub 30k to get the car. I have been thinking about keeping the car longer with it being limited edition as I don't daily drive my GTI anymore so was thinking it would be better than the R in 5 or 6 years as be more limited.


Just returned form holiday to discover the Clubsport order books are open.  However if the on the road price is only a couple hundred less than a Golf R then surely it would make sense to just go for an R.  The Bucket Seats are even extra on the clubsport and the engine is detuned R engine so my money would probably go on a Golf R with this in mind.  If I were to configure the Clubsport as I would like it will probably cost more than the Golf R configuration I would spec?
You'd need certain extras to make a CS be worth much extra over an R, namely the seats and black roof as a minimum.
The exclusive alloys would also help its value but as it can be specced with Pretorias then a second owner could add those themselves so that won't affect value too much.
Also, being as it's a ClubSport then you'd think the 3 door would be more in keeping with the image and therefore worth more(?)

So we're already looking at a car £2k dearer than an R and on the assumption that you'd probably get a good part ex from a dealer for your mint late model VW you probably won't get much, if any CS discount.
An R can be picked up for around £5k discount so even allowing for maybe an extra grand or so you'd get part ex'ing your current car against a full price CS that narrows the gap to £4k (just theoretical figures).
Will a ClubSport be worth £4k more than an R in four or five years?
Collectors will mothball mint low mileage CS's but will they really be worth that much more on the open market after just a few years?
The boy racers will want R's for the traction once modified.


On another unrelated but relevant note (or should that be the other way round?), I saw my first new style Civic Type R on the road yesterday. After the slating it got on here for its looks - I'm ashamed to say I really liked it!
I'd be embarrassed to drive one at my age but it appealed to the inner child in me.
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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #255 on: 03 April 2016, 10:03 »
Cheeeesus, I can't keep up. "There's a small item of dust on that one, take it away"  :smiley:

Next ones a keeper for a couple of years!

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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #256 on: 03 April 2016, 10:05 »
How about a nice "RUGGED NEW BEETLE DUNE"... available to order from Tuesday  :tongue: :laugh:

Pics?




ok, on second thoughts, don't bother...  :laugh:


Cheeeesus, I can't keep up. "There's a small item of dust on that one, take it away"  :smiley:

Show a bit of respect for our very own sheepskin mitt billionaire!!  :laugh:

Not quite but we're trying!

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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #257 on: 03 April 2016, 12:08 »
Some times things don't make sense... You just have to go with your heart.


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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #258 on: 03 April 2016, 17:58 »
Dealer has placed my order and I now have the number to track it....although it doesn't work at the moment..LOL

Really hoping not to be 24 weeks lead time.


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Re: GTI Clubsport sad news for now.....Can't be long now
« Reply #259 on: 03 April 2016, 18:27 »
Congratulations.

What spec ?