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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Booth11 on 25 March 2015, 00:43
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Saw something on the Rforum about this so went and had a look.
On the main VW website configurator a Tech Pack and a Parking Pack have been added as new options under extras (not showing on the App).
Both packs are showing as available on models including GTI/GTD/R. Strangely the new Tech Pack is showing as cheaper for GTI/GTD than the R? :huh: So maybe an error as doesn't seem right and the configurator is renowned for it's inaccuracies.
The Tech Pack comprises Discover Pro Nav (8" screen+) and Dynaudio bundled together. Previously the two options specced separately added up to £2,300 (£1765+£535). The Tech Pack price is showing as:
£1240 on GTI/GTD, a saving of £1,060?? and £45 less than Disc Nav/Dynaudio
£1,840 on R, a saving of £460. £555 more than Disc Nav/Dynaudio - much better than the previous £1,000 price hike.
The Parking Pack comprises Park Assist and Rear View Camera at £250, which is a £65 saving over the two specced separately (£150+£165). Showing as available for the R, which is weird because Parking Assist was not previously available on it :huh:
As said, VW configurator is not the most reliable but if it's correct, definitely something to think about for anyone with an order in the early stages or just about to order. Needs properly checking out, think I'll give my dealer a call.
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Saw this over on another forum. Bit of a kick in the teeth for those of us that dropped £1700 for Nav Pro to see now it's almost half price ! (guess that's progress).
I wonder if this is a "sell off" of stock units in preparation of the MIB II range of infotainment units with perhaps Car-Net, Apple Play as well as Mirror Link ?
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I wonder if this is a "sell off" of stock units in preparation of the MIB II range of infotainment units with perhaps Car-Net, Apple Play as well as Mirror Link ?
Sounds a bit like it...
Sweeteners are always to shift dead stock in my experience...
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Why does it cost so much more on the R though? Makes no sense at all, there's nothing that the GTI/GTD already have that the R doesn't to affect the price. Maybe they think R owners have deeper pockets, or they have far longer to save up for the pack knowing how long an R order takes to go through? :whistle:
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Saw this over on another forum. Bit of a kick in the teeth for those of us that dropped £1700 for Nav Pro to see now it's almost half price ! (guess that's progress).
I wonder if this is a "sell off" of stock units in preparation of the MIB II range of infotainment units with perhaps Car-Net, Apple Play as well as Mirror Link ?
Unfortunately there's always a kick in the teeth somewhere along the line! Does sound like they could be off loading old stock.
Why does it cost so much more on the R though? Makes no sense at all, there's nothing that the GTI/GTD already have that the R doesn't to affect the price. Maybe they think R owners have deeper pockets, or they have far longer to save up for the pack knowing how long an R order takes to go through? :whistle:
I think it's the GTI/GTD price that seems off, rather than the R price. A saving of £460 sounds much more realistic than £1,060. They might want to shift old stock but VW won't give it away :whistle:
You've had a longer saving time than most :sad:
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If those prices are correct it really would be a sore one. :sad: :sad:
Nav Pro + Dynaudio a £1000 cheaper than what some of us paid for the Pro alone :huh: :huh:. I for one would be gutted if it were indeed the case.
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That is bonkers!!! I ordered a gti pp 4 weeks ago and I'm waiting on a call back from the dealer. I only went for the discover nav but would definitely upgrade to the pro plus dyanaudio for another £500
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Have just spoken to my dealer. The price for the tech pack on the GTD/GTI is correct at £1240. He had to get one of the managers to speak to the factory to confirm this. He is going to try to add it onto my order and will know at the end of the day if he was able to or what delay there would be if i do add it on.
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I ordered my car in Ireland and we have a free tech pack at the minute. Regular sat nav, light beam assist, mdi phone and rear camera. I think they are clearing out all the units before the car play introduction
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Have just spoken to my dealer. The price for the tech pack on the GTD/GTI is correct at £1240. He had to get one of the managers to speak to the factory to confirm this. He is going to try to add it onto my order and will know at the end of the day if he was able to or what delay there would be if i do add it on.
Haven't got time to contact my dealer till tommorow (full on work day today) but if anyone going for an R gets confirmation of the Tech pack price being £1840 could you please post it here (not that I don't trust the configurator) :whistle:
If it's correct, I'll probably go for it on my R order just for the better screen size and resolution. I can stomach a £555 cost to upgrade but not the original £1k VW were asking.
Thanks :smiley:
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Have just spoken to my dealer. The price for the tech pack on the GTD/GTI is correct at £1240. He had to get one of the managers to speak to the factory to confirm this. He is going to try to add it onto my order and will know at the end of the day if he was able to or what delay there would be if i do add it on.
Haven't got time to contact my dealer till tommorow (full on work day today) but if anyone going for an R gets confirmation of the Tech pack price being £1840 could you please post it here (not that I don't trust the configurator) :whistle:
If it's correct, I'll probably go for it on my R order just for the better screen size and resolution. I can stomach a £555 cost to upgrade but not the original £1k VW were asking.
Thanks :smiley:
If I could get it for the GTI/GTD price, i'd probably just add it on to my R to take it through to the Sept plate, i'm getting a bit numb to the wait now. I'd really like to get an official explanation as to how the R pays £500 more than the almost identical for everything bar the engine and headlights GTI and GTD.
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If I could get it for the GTI/GTD price, i'd probably just add it on to my R to take it through to the Sept plate, i'm getting a bit numb to the wait now. I'd really like to get an official explanation as to how the R pays £500 more than the almost identical for everything bar the engine and headlights GTI and GTD.
Yeah that would make good sense as you've waited this long!
I'm with you on this - I too would like an explanation as to the £500 price difference between R and others for what are exactly same products. Price discrimination!
Unfortunately haven't got time to pursue it today but will drop my dealer an email tonight and call him tommorow.
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I'd have thought the R option price was the correct one surely?
The configurator is always so inaccurate. The polo GTI launch has been full of wrong information on the configurator which means VW haven't moved forwards at all since the golf GTI launch. The whole configurator needs a makeover anyway.
Interesting to see park assist also added with the parking pack on the R too.
Both the packs look good value by VW standards, particularly the parking pack but the tech pack too at GTI/D prices as they presently stand.
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I think we will see revisions to this soon - sadly VWUK do not have their act together with their website. The GTE launch was a shambles and not even sure thats sorted out yet...
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I wonder whether VW group outsource the website or run it with their own team in house?
It doesn't look as flashy as even say Ford or Vauxhall never mind BMW on the VW site which I guess suits the corporate image but it is getting very dated and the SEAT configurator still seems like it's stuck in the 1990s. Understandable I guess as that's when SEAT did their best models maybe... :grin:
If they ran it in house then it would explain the slightly dated design but the wrong information (not just a BIT wrong) points to a huge communication black hole in VW.
Anyway, back on topic, I think the packs will get a big take up if the prices are correct.
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Managed to get a call in to my dealer about this and he's going to find out and get back to me (not today). He remembers seeing a vw bulletin about these packs but isn't yet up to speed on it.
I mentioned the discrepancy between the GTI/D and R tech pack price and he doesn't understand why there would be any diffrence. I'll post any update.
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If they ran it in house then it would explain the slightly dated design but the wrong information (not just a BIT wrong) points to a huge communication black hole in VW.
I think the fact that VW UK is a licensed importer and not the actual parent company designer/manufacturer is always going to be the issue - the distance and language barrier only makes things worse...
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I think the fact that VW UK is a licensed importer and not the actual parent company designer/manufacturer is always going to be the issue - the distance and language barrier only makes things worse...
It always amazes me that a company as large as VW AG doesn't sell the cars to the UK dealership group (we have Europe's largest new car market - we simply don't hold onto our cars as long as anyone else) themselves and cut out the middleman. VW UK are useless mediators when the dealerships or authorised repair centres cock-up and are never willing to take the blame for their own shortcomings. They don't have the balls to tell VW AG to man up when they drop the ball either.
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Showing as £1840 for the Golf Match too
£1240 is the price on the GT and R-Line models which already have Discover Navigation standard. So either DNS is about to become free on the GTI and GTD, or the price is wrong. Either are plausible explanations!
I think the fact that VW UK is a licensed importer and not the actual parent company designer/manufacturer is always going to be the issue - the distance and language barrier only makes things worse...
It always amazes me that a company as large as VW AG doesn't sell the cars to the UK dealership group (we have Europe's largest new car market - we simply don't hold onto our cars as long as anyone else) themselves and cut out the middleman. VW UK are useless mediators when the dealerships or authorised repair centres cock-up and are never willing to take the blame for their own shortcomings. They don't have the balls to tell VW AG to man up when they drop the ball either.
Its the same with all manufacturers really, VW UK are merely an importer.
Do we know for sure the Tech Pack is a factory incentive and not UK specific?
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Yes, the Tech Pack for £1840 is something I would have gone for. Too late for me now. Thank goodness I did not order the DNS Pro as a separate item.
I think the £1240 for the Tech Pack for GTD/GTI models might be a mistake as neither of these cars comes with DNS as standard, unlike the GT which does come with DNS as standard. On this car the Tech Pack is £1240.
Anyway, I am pretty narked with this Tech Pack business and the almost definite introduction of the 6.5" Screen as standard from BW22 onwards.
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Rang my dealer today. First he had heard of it. I asked if he could add it to my order and so he emailed VW UK who said the changes aren't live or official yet, despite them being on the VW Configurator? He says there systems aren't updated with the new packs and claims they might not even happen still as VW put these on the website before its official.
According to him it won't be ready this quarter. He said I'd have to cancel my 4 week old order to add it which would push my BW back. To which I replied "Cancel it then" He's chasing IT up and getting back to me tomorrow.
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Rang my dealer today. First he had heard of it. I asked if he could add it to my order and so he emailed VW UK who said the changes aren't live or official yet, despite them being on the VW Configurator? He says there systems aren't updated with the new packs and claims they might not even happen still as VW put these on the website before its official.
According to him it won't be ready this quarter. He said I'd have to cancel my 4 week old order to add it which would push my BW back. To which I replied "Cancel it then" He's chasing IT up and getting back to me tomorrow.
I think I'd say the same. Didn't want it till Sept anyway :whistle:
I wonder what their criteria is for adding stuff to the website and when? Sometimes it looks for all the world like they pluck a vague idea out of the ether and think "what the hell, we'll just stick it on the website anyway" and worry about the viability and mechanics of it later :rolleyes:
And dealers are always caught on the hop with these things. I know forum members are more clued up than most but the lack of dealer product knowledge is depressingly predictable.
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Tell me about it. Sometimes I feel like we should switch seats and I should be selling the car to the dealer.
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Tell me about it. Sometimes I feel like we should switch seats and I should be selling the car to the dealer.
Haha, well given the choice I'd buy a car off you over a dealer any day :grin:
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Tell me about it. Sometimes I feel like we should switch seats and I should be selling the car to the dealer.
Haha, well given the choice I'd buy a car off you over a dealer any day :grin:
Haha :D You and me both.
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If you don't buy the Tech Pack you will still get the CMS/DNS with the 6.5" Screen from BW22 onwards and the 6.5" DNS will cost £700, which is £50 less than the 5.8" DNS. How very annoying. The CMS will also be upgraded to the 6.5" High Resolution Screen.
So if you ordered the 6.5" DNS with Dynaudio, the cost would be £1235. If you ordered the Tech Pack now (with 8" DNS Pro and Dynaudio) the cost would be £1840. The difference is £605. With the 8" DNS Pro you also get Voice Activation (£185) as standard. So the difference in cost between the two is £420. Do you think an extra 1.5" in screen size is worth this amount? It would seem so.
Take a look at the Configurator for the New Polo GTI which comes with the 6.5" Screen as standard for the CMS.
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Worth pointing out that these figures above relate specifically to the R.
Tbh I don't know if it's worth having the DNS Pro over the bw22 uprated 6.5" screen. Part of me thinks it is worth it. If I go for the tech pack then I'll have to cancel the voice activation I speced as extra to the standard DNS so that's a bit more off the cost. Will wait to see what dealer comes back with and the mull it all over!
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If you don't buy the Tech Pack you will still get the CMS/DNS with the 6.5" Screen from BW22 onwards and the 6.5" DNS will cost £700, which is £50 less than the 5.8" DNS. How very annoying. The CMS will also be upgraded to the 6.5" High Resolution Screen.
So if you ordered the 6.5" DNS with Dynaudio, the cost would be £1235. If you ordered the Tech Pack now (with 8" DNS Pro and Dynaudio) the cost would be £1840. The difference is £605. With the 8" DNS Pro you also get Voice Activation (£185) as standard. So the difference in cost between the two is £420. Do you think an extra 1.5" in screen size is worth this amount? It would seem so.
Take a look at the Configurator for the New Polo GTI which comes with the 6.5" Screen as standard for the CMS.
Where did you get this information? My dealer is giving me an estimated BW 19 at the moment and would be well pissed if i miss out on this by 3 weeks.
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Worth pointing out that these figures above relate specifically to the R.
Tbh I don't know if it's worth having the DNS Pro over the bw22 uprated 6.5" screen. Part of me thinks it is worth it. If I go for the tech pack then I'll have to cancel the voice activation I speced as extra to the standard DNS so that's a bit more off the cost. Will wait to see what dealer comes back with and the mull it all over!
Yes, as said above, this is for the R.
Now with the £420 you save, you could order a Climate Screen and Advanced Telephone Prep and this still leaves you with a bit of change.
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If you don't buy the Tech Pack you will still get the CMS/DNS with the 6.5" Screen from BW22 onwards and the 6.5" DNS will cost £700, which is £50 less than the 5.8" DNS. How very annoying. The CMS will also be upgraded to the 6.5" High Resolution Screen.
So if you ordered the 6.5" DNS with Dynaudio, the cost would be £1235. If you ordered the Tech Pack now (with 8" DNS Pro and Dynaudio) the cost would be £1840. The difference is £605. With the 8" DNS Pro you also get Voice Activation (£185) as standard. So the difference in cost between the two is £420. Do you think an extra 1.5" in screen size is worth this amount? It would seem so.
Take a look at the Configurator for the New Polo GTI which comes with the 6.5" Screen as standard for the CMS.
Where did you get this information? My dealer is giving me an estimated BW 19 at the moment and would be well pissed if i miss out on this by 3 weeks.
Have a look at the VW Configurator for the Golf GTD/GTI. My post is purely related to the R.
The fact is that most dealers have not kept up with these changes.
Try and get your BW delayed to 22 or later by changing spec. Unfortunately, you might end up waiting an extra few months.
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Thanks i think i will just leave it as i am having to wait long enough already. hopefully the GTE & Passat orders will slow mine down enough
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Is any of this actually confirmed? Are these better radios definitely coming to the Golf from BW22 and who has confirmed it? All I can see so far is speculation. The dealers don't seem to know anything about it but that's par for the course.
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Yep. Very, very educated speculation. Is there any better way? :laugh:
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Yep. Very, very educated speculation. Is there any better way? :laugh:
:laugh: I suppose it's as reliable as any.
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I'm sure Lee our resident trusted trader will be along in April to tell us about the changes officially as thats when he's told us about the other changes:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=266414.msg2447926#msg2447926
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=252529.msg2316290#msg2316290
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=190980.msg1783959#msg1783959
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=153285.msg1405888#msg1405888
He's also mentioned changes to the Gen 2 DNS (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=269932.msg2486718#msg2486718)
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Worth pointing out that these figures above relate specifically to the R.
Tbh I don't know if it's worth having the DNS Pro over the bw22 uprated 6.5" screen. Part of me thinks it is worth it. If I go for the tech pack then I'll have to cancel the voice activation I speced as extra to the standard DNS so that's a bit more off the cost. Will wait to see what dealer comes back with and the mull it all over!
Yes, as said above, this is for the R.
Now with the £420 you save, you could order a Climate Screen and Advanced Telephone Prep and this still leaves you with a bit of change.
But I don't want the climate screen or advanced phone prep. I'll pocket the change instead. Stop spending my imaginary savings :tongue: :laugh:
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:wink:
I'm sure Lee our resident trusted trader will be along in April to tell us about the changes officially as thats when he's told us about the other changes:
I hope so, but it gives us something to get worked up about in the meantime :wink:
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Worth pointing out that these figures above relate specifically to the R.
Tbh I don't know if it's worth having the DNS Pro over the bw22 uprated 6.5" screen. Part of me thinks it is worth it. If I go for the tech pack then I'll have to cancel the voice activation I speced as extra to the standard DNS so that's a bit more off the cost. Will wait to see what dealer comes back with and the mull it all over!
Yes, as said above, this is for the R.
Now with the £420 you save, you could order a Climate Screen and Advanced Telephone Prep and this still leaves you with a bit of change.
But I don't want the climate screen or advanced phone prep. I'll pocket the change instead. Stop spending my imaginary savings :tongue: :laugh:
Ha, ha. Someone has to so why not me? :laugh: :tongue:
But seriously, if the 6.5" DNS will be available from BW22 onwards, would you still go for the 8" DNS Pro in the Tech Pack?
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I'm in Ireland and I got my dealer to look into this today.
He contacted VW Ireland and they have confirmed that the new media units will appear from BW-22. The catch here is that it's likely to be accompanied by a slight price hike.
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But I don't want the climate screen or advanced phone prep. I'll pocket the change instead. Stop spending my imaginary savings :tongue: :laugh:
Ha, ha. Someone has to so why not me? :laugh: :tongue:
But seriously, if the 6.5" DNS will be available from BW22 onwards, would you still go for the 8" DNS Pro in the Tech Pack?
Actually I'm quite good at spending imaginary savings myself :whistle:
If the 6.5" screen is high res, then no, the extra 1.5" is not worth £420, but... :undecided: :undecided:
I think you should make the decision for me :laugh:
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Go for the 8.5" Booth. Fills the centre much better and makes more use of the rear view camera.
My dealer didn't call me back as promised today. But in used to that by now. Lol.
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I'm in Ireland and I got my dealer to look into this today.
He contacted VW Ireland and they have confirmed that the new media units will appear from BW-22. The catch here is that it's likely to be accompanied by a slight price hike.
Do you have an order already in the system? If so did your dealer say what the process for ensuring you get the new unit would be?
Wondering if current orders (DNS specced) built after BW22 will automatically get upgraded to the new unit or whether you'd have to add it to your order after week 22 to replace the original option??
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But I don't want the climate screen or advanced phone prep. I'll pocket the change instead. Stop spending my imaginary savings :tongue: :laugh:
Ha, ha. Someone has to so why not me? :laugh: :tongue:
But seriously, if the 6.5" DNS will be available from BW22 onwards, would you still go for the 8" DNS Pro in the Tech Pack?
Actually I'm quite good at spending imaginary savings myself :whistle:
If the 6.5" screen is high res, then no, the extra 1.5" is not worth £420, but... :undecided: :undecided:
I think you should make the decision for me :laugh:
The 8" DNS Pro also has a DVD drive as well as Voice Control. The 6.5" DNS won't have Voice Control or a DVD Drive, though it has a CD drive. If you wish to watch movies in your car (how sad is that eh?) then go with the DNS Pro.
I have found that listening to a CD on a CD/DVD drive produces worse sound quality than from a dedicated CD drive. This is the case with both home and in-car systems.
The decision is wholly yours. Save £420 and get a smaller screen without a CD/DVD drive, or spend this amount and get a bigger screen, a CD/DVD drive but worse sound quality with a music CD.
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My dealer didn't call me back as promised today. But in used to that by now. Lol.
Not a peep out of my dealer either. What are they like :rolleyes:
Go for the 8.5" Booth. Fills the centre much better and makes more use of the rear view camera.
Ahh, I knew there was a reason I really needed 8.5" :grin:
Decision made then, just need it to become a reality now!
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The DNS Pro has an 8" Screen not an 8.5" Screen.
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That's what I meant. Same diff :P
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That's what I meant. Same diff :P
Really? :rolleyes:
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No, I haven't put the order through yet. Probably tomorrow!
The dealer and VW IRL indicated that they'd be able to delay the build week so that it doesn't get built until week 22. I'm not entirely convinced this will work though.
I'm in Ireland and I got my dealer to look into this today.
He contacted VW Ireland and they have confirmed that the new media units will appear from BW-22. The catch here is that it's likely to be accompanied by a slight price hike.
Do you have an order already in the system? If so did your dealer say what the process for ensuring you get the new unit would be?
Wondering if current orders (DNS specced) built after BW22 will automatically get upgraded to the new unit or whether you'd have to add it to your order after week 22 to replace the original option??
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The 8" DNS Pro also has a DVD drive as well as Voice Control. The 6.5" DNS won't have Voice Control or a DVD Drive, though it has a CD drive. If you wish to watch movies in your car (how sad is that eh?) then go with the DNS Pro.
I have found that listening to a CD on a CD/DVD drive produces worse sound quality than from a dedicated CD drive. This is the case with both home and in-car systems.
The decision is wholly yours. Save £420 and get a smaller screen without a CD/DVD drive, or spend this amount and get a bigger screen, a CD/DVD drive but worse sound quality with a music CD.
Agree about the reduced sound quality of CDs on a DVD drive but tbh I always just listen via my iPod these days (yeah I know the sound quality is crap) but I've become lazy and can't be bothered with CDs anymore :embarrassed:
Price aside for a moment, iniitially the catalyst for considering the Tech Pack was the high res screen. The 6.5" screen would give me that BUT, now I've had time to consider it, I'll admit I'm swayed by aesthetics and think a the bigger screen would just look better in the centre space as Mr Savage says, and if it makes more of the rear view cam, then good. Additionally it would be more of an aappreciable difference over my current system (not nav but RCD510). If it was costing me £1k+ more then no, but at £420, yeah I think so.
Anyway it could be a mute point if VWs info proves to be wrong. Over to the dealer.... :whistle:
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The DNS Pro has an 8" Screen not an 8.5" Screen.
That's what I meant. Same diff :P
That's what I meant. Same diff :P
Really? :rolleyes:
I know every half inch counts to you men, but size means nothing to me, haha :whistle: :laugh:
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No, I haven't put the order through yet. Probably tomorrow!
The dealer and VW IRL indicated that they'd be able to delay the build week so that it doesn't get built until week 22. I'm not entirely convinced this will work though.
I'm in Ireland and I got my dealer to look into this today.
He contacted VW Ireland and they have confirmed that the new media units will appear from BW-22. The catch here is that it's likely to be accompanied by a slight price hike.
Do you have an order already in the system? If so did your dealer say what the process for ensuring you get the new unit would be?
Wondering if current orders (DNS specced) built after BW22 will automatically get upgraded to the new unit or whether you'd have to add it to your order after week 22 to replace the original option??
Ah, I see thanks. Well I hope it goes through ok, let us know how you get on and your spec :smiley:
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'They' say 6.5" is pleasure and 8" is pain. But a mere £420 extra for an extra 1.5" is worth the risk! :laugh:
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'They' say 6.5" is pleasure and 8" is pain. But a mere £420 extra for an extra 1.5" is worth the risk! :laugh:
:grin: :grin:
As long as there's a bit of pleasure to go with the pain :kiss:
I'm SOLD...again :laugh:
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The DNS Pro has an 8" Screen not an 8.5" Screen.
That's what I meant. Same diff :P
That's what I meant. Same diff :P
Really? :rolleyes:
I know every half inch counts to you men, but size means nothing to me, haha :whistle: :laugh:
Haha Booth :D I was resisting that kind of joke myself.
It's a big price to pay but I think it's worth it. I was prepared to pay £1000 more for the DNS Pro over the DNS so £400 (due to Dynaudio being thrown in) is absolutely fine to me.
My brother has the DNS Pro in his R and when I get out of that and into the standard DNS on my GTI it looks tiny and lowers the overall quality of feel of the cabin. The DNS Pro fits perfectly in the centre console.
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Yes, the 8" DNS Pro is very attractive especially to thieves!
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Haha Booth :D I was resisting that kind of joke myself.
It's a big price to pay but I think it's worth it. I was prepared to pay £1000 more for the DNS Pro over the DNS so £400 (due to Dynaudio being thrown in) is absolutely fine to me.
My brother has the DNS Pro in his R and when I get out of that and into the standard DNS on my GTI it looks tiny and lowers the overall quality of feel of the cabin. The DNS Pro fits perfectly in the centre console.
Yep, SOLD thrice!!!
I'm going to be gutted if this Tech Pack thing doesn't come to fruition now. Oh, what have you done :grin:
Yes, the 8" DNS Pro is very attractive especially to thieves!
I will not let thieves dictate what I spend my money on, if t gets nicked, it gets nicked, car or stereo/nav. I will have GAP insurance.
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@Joe
Whose is your Irish Dealer? Did they mention the tech pack to you? I ordered 3 weeks ago and included the tech pack so I'm assuming no matter what BW I get I won't get the new system.
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@Joe
Whose is your Irish Dealer? Did they mention the tech pack to you? I ordered 3 weeks ago and included the tech pack so I'm assuming no matter what BW I get I won't get the new system.
Hey Damo,
It's Western Motors in Galway.
Yes, tech pack. I'm told (directly by VW Ireland) that if I order by March 31, I'll get the tech pack. There's no guarantees on it if I delay beyond that but there's a strong feeling that it'll stay for post March ordered cars.
If your car is built on or after week 22, you will get the new system! I'm not sure how VW Ireland will work that, I can only assume you'd still get the tech pack, with the nicer newer screen.
Also not sure if a price hike would affect you in that scenario too. I got caught like that before. A price hike between order and delivery and I had to cough up.
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My dear Miss Booth:
You owe it to yourself to be a High Tech Hannah. :cool: :smiley:
What I still cannot understand is that exactly the same Tech Pack on the GTD/GTI is £1240 whereas for the R it is £1840.
Most odd.
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My dear Miss Booth:
You owe it to yourself to be a High Tech Hanna. :cool: :smiley:
Hanna? The film? Enlighten me :smiley:
What I still cannot understand is that exactly the same Tech Pack on the GTD/GTI is £1240 whereas on the R it is £1840.
Most odd.
Nor I. I have my dealer looking into it, but I'm working on the assumption that the higher R price is what I will be expected to pay :sad:
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High Tech Hannah is just an expression I made up and which rhymes quite nicely. :smiley:
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My dear Miss Booth:
You owe it to yourself to be a High Tech Hannah. :cool: :smiley:
What I still cannot understand is that exactly the same Tech Pack on the GTD/GTI is £1240 whereas for the R it is £1840.
Most odd.
There's only 2 logical explanations:
1. A mistake on the configurator
Or
2. The GTI is getting the regular DNS as standard. Hence the upgrade to the Pro is cheaper.
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I would spec the nav pro every time. It looks way better than the smaller dns, finishes the dash board off really well, makes the rear view camera even better. It also comes with hard drive and the fact the maps are stored in the system rather than being on an sd card. Screen resolution is excellent too.
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@Joe,
Ah cool. I actually bought in western motors in Drogeda as they gave me the best trade on my currevt car. It's 152 for me! What are you ordering? I've no build week yet but I expect to be approx BW22. So maybe new screen and maybe not. Hope price home doesn't happen but I understand it might!
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High Tech Hannah is just an expression I made up and which rhymes quite nicely. :smiley:
Ah ha, it was your initial spelling minus the last H which threw me. Was it too much of a challenge to rhyme something with my real name? :wink: :tongue:
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My dear Miss Booth:
You owe it to yourself to be a High Tech Hannah. :cool: :smiley:
What I still cannot understand is that exactly the same Tech Pack on the GTD/GTI is £1240 whereas for the R it is £1840.
Most odd.
There's only 2 logical explanations:
1. A mistake on the configurator
Or
2. The GTI is getting the regular DNS as standard. Hence the upgrade to the Pro is cheaper.
Or
3. Those ordering Rs are being screwed.
I just cannot see the GTI getting DNS as standard and not the R. I don't think either will get it as standard but stranger things have happened :huh:
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As soon as my dealer gets back to me i'll let you know Rebecca. I would phone my salesman up again but I think any more of my chase-up phone calls and he'll be putting a restraining order on me. :cry:
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VW always mess this up, having spoken to an Audi salesman today is seems Audi have also messed this up in the RS3
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I would spec the nav pro every time. It looks way better than the smaller dns, finishes the dash board off really well, makes the rear view camera even better. It also comes with hard drive and the fact the maps are stored in the system rather than being on an sd card. Screen resolution is excellent too.
I can see that it would give a more premium feel to the interior as well as the tech advantages. The original cost deterred me from speccing it initially. At the time of choosing a part of me thought "well what the hell it's costing me X anyway, why scrimp on that" but then I would've ended up adding stuff just for the sake of it, so common sense prevailed. I'm pretty good at sticking to my guns usually and not giving into temptation just because.
However, as part of the possible Tech pack (factoring in everything else,) the extra £370 is more palatable and seems worth it. If it is doable, I will add it.
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VW always mess this up, having spoken to an Audi salesman today is seems Audi have also messed this up in the RS3
Speaking of the RS3 I thought it was available to order from March? Still says coming soon on Audi's site.
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As soon as my dealer gets back to me i'll let you know Rebecca. I would phone my salesman up again but I think any more of my chase-up phone calls and he'll be putting a restraining order on me. :cry:
Thanks Mr Savage. Haha I know what you mean, I've gone easy on mine so far to maintain the goodwill but that could change :wink: He's more of an emailer anyway. Well, the race is on now between our respective salesmen :tongue:
VW always mess this up, having spoken to an Audi salesman today is seems Audi have also messed this up in the RS3
Aw, and I thought we were getting special VW treatment.
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High Tech Hannah is just an expression I made up and which rhymes quite nicely. :smiley:
Ah ha, it was your initial spelling minus the last H which threw me. Was it too much of a challenge to rhyme something with my real name? :wink: :tongue:
How about: High Techie Becky? :wink:
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Well, the race is on now between our respective salesmen :tongue:
Well my man wins, sort of. Just picked up an email he sent a couple hours ago:
Hi Rebecca,
I have phoned Volkswagen UK to ask them about the Tech pack for the Golf, and why it is more expensive for the R compared with the GTi. I'm not sure why just the GT and R Line models that have the Discover navigation as standard are not at the lower price, as it is a factory option on the other models, so I don't understand why the Tech pack for a GTi/GTD is less in cost than the R.
They have sent an enquiry to product and marketing to find out why this is, once I have heard back I will let you know.
Not a definitive answer yet but all credit for emailing at such an hour, maybe he's reading this forum :wink: :smiley:
The email is worded a little oddly, but essentially the Tech Pack option is priced at £1240 on the GT and R-line models where DNS comes as standard which makes sense, so one would expect the higher pack price of £1840 to apply to both GTI/GTD and R, neither of which have nav as standard. Anyway, will see what response he gets. I have replied asking again if I would be able to add the pack whichever price it is.......watch this space.
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@Joe,
Ah cool. I actually bought in western motors in Drogeda as they gave me the best trade on my currevt car. It's 152 for me! What are you ordering? I've no build week yet but I expect to be approx BW22. So maybe new screen and maybe not. Hope price home doesn't happen but I understand it might!
Same for me! This will be the 5th car in 10 years I'll have bought off them. They must rub their hands with glee when I turn up every 2-3 years! I priced around, as I've done every time before, and Western always offer me the best price. They know me and my car very well which helps I guess.
I'm ordering an R!! You only live once!
If you ordered 3 weeks ago I'd be amazed if it took until week 22 to get a build. Every VW I've ordered before was built within 7-8 weeks and delivered to me within 10-12. Did your dealer indicate it'd take that long? Irish deliveries have never really taken longer than 10-12 weeks.
I'm also aiming for 152 and I don't really want the car to arrive in Galway a month early. So I'm hoping they can somehow delay the build week a bit.
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High Tech Hannah is just an expression I made up and which rhymes quite nicely. :smiley:
Ah ha, it was your initial spelling minus the last H which threw me. Was it too much of a challenge to rhyme something with my real name? :wink: :tongue:
How about: High Techie Becky? :wink:
Well Asker, I prefer Bec but it does have quite a ring to it :smiley: :cool:
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I'm ordering an R!! You only live once!
Good man! :grin: :grin:
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I'm ordering an R!! You only live once!
Good man! :grin: :grin:
:grin: Not signed and sealed yet but close! Getting a better than expected trade in on the GTI which pushed me towards the R...
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With a sharper mind this morning, I've stopped mixing my savings and add on costs up to realise that adding the Tech Pack (in lieu of my current standard DNS + voice activation), will give me DNS Pro for a mere £370 more.
It's a no brainer :cool:
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I'm ordering an R!! You only live once!
If you ordered 3 weeks ago I'd be amazed if it took until week 22 to get a build. Every VW I've ordered before was built within 7-8 weeks and delivered to me within 10-12. Did your dealer indicate it'd take that long? Irish deliveries have never really taken longer than 10-12 weeks.
I'm also aiming for 152 and I don't really want the car to arrive in Galway a month early. So I'm hoping they can somehow delay the build week a bit.
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Nice one Joe, best of luck with that and keep us posted. I'll Defo be watching out for you in Galway.
I've only seen one R on the roads round here. Kevin Connolly sold a lapis blue one. I've a good friend looking for a mk6 GTi. If you are trying to sell yours private let us know. He might stretch to a 132, I doubt it but I'll dedo ask him.
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I'm ordering an R!! You only live once!
If you ordered 3 weeks ago I'd be amazed if it took until week 22 to get a build. Every VW I've ordered before was built within 7-8 weeks and delivered to me within 10-12. Did your dealer indicate it'd take that long? Irish deliveries have never really taken longer than 10-12 weeks.
I'm also aiming for 152 and I don't really want the car to arrive in Galway a month early. So I'm hoping they can somehow delay the build week a bit.
Nice one Joe, best of luck with that and keep us posted. I'll Defo be watching out for you in Galway.
I've only seen one R on the roads round here. Kevin Connolly sold a lapis blue one. I've a good friend looking for a mk6 GTi. If you are trying to sell yours private let us know. He might stretch to a 132, I doubt it but I'll dedo ask him.
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Cheers Damo,
Yeah I am getting a good price for it on the trade in so I'd need strong money for it on a private sale. Also won't be in a position to let it go until June-ish... But if he was genuinely interested in looking at it, I'd be happy to talk! He would not find a better example in the country.
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I'm ordering an R!! You only live once!
Good man! :grin: :grin:
:grin: Not signed and sealed yet but close! Getting a better than expected trade in on the GTI which pushed me towards the R...
Nice, keep us posted!
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@ Damo / JoeGTi a bit of advice ? - how have you found Irish Dealers - are they flexible on price and what level of discount do you think is possible for cash purchases
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I was chatting him there and he said he's stretched already to get a Mk6 so I expect he'd be wasting your time looking at it. I'm in the same boat as you in that I'll be putting my car up for sale for a june sale so I can take delivery on july 1st. The straight price discount is worth trying to sell private in my case anyway.
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@ Damo / JoeGTi a bit of advice ? - how have you found Irish Dealers - are they flexible on price and what level of discount do you think is possible for cash purchases
I'm getting what I think is a strong price for my 132 GTI. They know me well and my car is mint. It's an easy sell for them. I did try another dealer and he was nowhere close.
I'm not exactly sure what kind of straight deal discounts there are. I asked my guy and he said "around 2k" on the R.
@Damo, what sort of discounts on a straight deal were you quoted?
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With a sharper mind this morning, I've stopped mixing my savings and add on costs up to realise that adding the Tech Pack (in lieu of my current standard DNS + voice activation), will give me DNS Pro for a mere £370 more.
It's a no brainer :cool:
No brainer, I totally agree.
Regarding the extra cost, you are correct it is £370 when the 5.8" DNS with Voice Control is factored in and £420 when the 6.5" DNS with Voice Control is factored in, as the 6.5" DNS is £50 cheaper than the 5.8" DNS. Crazy.
Jealous that this was not available when I ordered my car. My only consolation is that I got a very good 3 year lease deal, never to be repeated I am told.
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Same for me about 2k discount straight deal... I'll Defo try sell my car come june. I've a mk3 141 Octavia RS.
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Same for me about 2k discount straight deal... I'll Defo try sell my car come june. I've a mk3 141 Octavia RS.
Very nice :smiley: You are even worse than me then for changing cars frequently :grin: Will you miss the boot space in the Octavia?
If I was to sell privately (and assuming then I'd get ~2k off the R on a straight deal), I'd need at least 27.5k just to come out the same way! So to make it worth my while at all I'd need 28-29k on a private sale and I can't see there being many punters out there willing to part with that money on a private sale. You might find likewise unless you get lucky and someone knows your car...
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I needed the boot when my kids were small but barely use it now so looking forward to getting back in a golf. Ill Defo try sell the car but I don't expect too many willing to pay the money I'll need.
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No brainer, I totally agree.
Regarding the extra cost, you are correct it is £370 when the 5.8" DNS with Voice Control is factored in and £420 when the 6.5" DNS with Voice Control is factored in, as the 6.5" DNS is £50 cheaper than the 5.8" DNS. Crazy.
Jealous that this was not available when I ordered my car. My only consolation is that I got a very good 3 year lease deal, never to be repeated I am told.
VW options pricing structure is very odd.
Your cheap 'never to be repeated cheap lease deal' will never be repeated until the next 'never to be repeated cheap lease deal', which I hope for your sake will be a very long time :laugh:
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No brainer, I totally agree.
Regarding the extra cost, you are correct it is £370 when the 5.8" DNS with Voice Control is factored in and £420 when the 6.5" DNS with Voice Control is factored in, as the 6.5" DNS is £50 cheaper than the 5.8" DNS. Crazy.
Jealous that this was not available when I ordered my car. My only consolation is that I got a very good 3 year lease deal, never to be repeated I am told.
VW options pricing structure is very odd.
Your cheap 'never to be repeated cheap lease deal' will never be repeated until the next 'never to be repeated cheap lease deal', which I hope for your sake will be a very long time :laugh:
Ha, ha.
I'll keep believing it as it helps not having the luck to spec a Tech Pack a bit more palatable. I've got 3 years with this car and will just have to accept a measly 5.8" whilst you will be enjoying an enormous 8".
Life's not fair.
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Ha, ha.
I'll keep believing it as it helps not having the luck to spec a Tech Pack a bit more palatable. I've got 3 years with this car and will just have to accept a measly 5.8" whilst you will be enjoying an enormous 8".
Life's not fair.
I will not hesitate to gloat at every opportunity :tongue:
When I am ensconced in my lovely new R admiring the ginormous media screen, I will think of you and your teeny weeny thumbnail offering :laugh:
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Ha, ha.
I'll keep believing it as it helps not having the luck to spec a Tech Pack a bit more palatable. I've got 3 years with this car and will just have to accept a measly 5.8" whilst you will be enjoying an enormous 8".
Life's not fair.
I will not hesitate to gloat at every opportunity :tongue:
When I am ensconced in my lovely new R admiring the ginormous media screen, I will think of you and your teeny weeny thumbnail offering :laugh:
Evil witch! Burn, burn, burn! :laugh:
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Evil witch! Burn, burn, burn! :laugh:
Now that's not nice Asker :shocked: Jealousy brings out the worst in people :grin:
In all seriousness it must be highly annoying just missing out, but at the end of the day you've still got a beautiful Tornado R even if it is lacking a couple of inches of plastic :smiley:
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Ha, ha.
I'll keep believing it as it helps not having the luck to spec a Tech Pack a bit more palatable. I've got 3 years with this car and will just have to accept a measly 5.8" whilst you will be enjoying an enormous 8".
Life's not fair.
I will not hesitate to gloat at every opportunity :tongue:
When I am ensconced in my lovely new R admiring the ginormous media screen, I will think of you and your teeny weeny thumbnail offering :laugh:
And with only the tiniest round things dangling out of Asker's arches too...
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I will not hesitate to gloat at every opportunity :tongue:
When I am ensconced in my lovely new R admiring the ginormous media screen, I will think of you and your teeny weeny thumbnail offering :laugh:
And with only the tiniest round things dangling out of Asker's arches too...
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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Evil witch! Burn, burn, burn! :laugh:
Now that's not nice Asker :shocked: Jealousy brings out the worst in people :grin:
In all seriousness it must be highly annoying just missing out, but at the end of the day you've still got a beautiful Tornado R even if it is lacking a couple of inches of plastic :smiley:
2.2" makes all the difference I am told! I am so glad you will be able to get a bigger one. Bless! :laugh:
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Ha, ha.
I'll keep believing it as it helps not having the luck to spec a Tech Pack a bit more palatable. I've got 3 years with this car and will just have to accept a measly 5.8" whilst you will be enjoying an enormous 8".
Life's not fair.
I will not hesitate to gloat at every opportunity :tongue:
When I am ensconced in my lovely new R admiring the ginormous media screen, I will think of you and your teeny weeny thumbnail offering :laugh:
And with only the tiniest round things dangling out of Asker's arches too...
Andy, I knew you had been stalking me with your long lens! :laugh:
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Well, the race is on now between our respective salesmen :tongue:
Well my man wins, sort of. Just picked up an email he sent a couple hours ago:
Hi Rebecca,
I have phoned Volkswagen UK to ask them about the Tech pack for the Golf, and why it is more expensive for the R compared with the GTi. I'm not sure why just the GT and R Line models that have the Discover navigation as standard are not at the lower price, as it is a factory option on the other models, so I don't understand why the Tech pack for a GTi/GTD is less in cost than the R.
They have sent an enquiry to product and marketing to find out why this is, once I have heard back I will let you know.
Not a definitive answer yet but all credit for emailing at such an hour, maybe he's reading this forum :wink: :smiley:
The email is worded a little oddly, but essentially the Tech Pack option is priced at £1240 on the GT and R-line models where DNS comes as standard which makes sense, so one would expect the higher pack price of £1840 to apply to both GTI/GTD and R, neither of which have nav as standard. Anyway, will see what response he gets. I have replied asking again if I would be able to add the pack whichever price it is.......watch this space.
Did you hear anything further on this?
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Nothing more as yet. As soon as I do I'll let you know :smiley:
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From the R Forum regarding the different Tech Pack prices for the R and GTI/GTD:
Asked VW UK. Their response was "This is because of the model prices for the UK market. We're unable to offer the lower price on Golf R."
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Yeah I saw that response on the other forum but I don't really buy into it. As I say when you compare with the Match and GT/R-Line prices something funny is going on. Be interested to hear what response Booth11 gets :smiley:
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Having different prices for the same Tech Pack for the GTI/GTD and R is frankly ludicrous. Simply does not make sense. Perhaps it is not meant to as the only thing that is not common in such an instance is common sense. :rolleyes:
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Well my salesmen was meant to be ringing me back on yesterday about it. Still nothing. Same as usual. Lol. Are all dealers this unreliable or Isit just mine out of curiosity? Had about 3 different salesmen and it's always been the same story.
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Just came back from a little spin just for the sake of it.
I am glad to report that I am perfectly happy with my 5.8" DNS and not envious of a bigger screen. I paid less than RRP for both the DNS and Dynaudio, so I am more than satisfied with my lot.
The car is immense and I could not stop grinning after my little spin this evening.
You guys and gals who are waiting for your Rs are in for a real treat.
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Yeah I saw that response on the other forum but I don't really buy into it. As I say when you compare with the Match and GT/R-Line prices something funny is going on. Be interested to hear what response Booth11 gets :smiley:
I don't buy it either, a pathetic, laughable explanation, if you can call it that. Let's see if I or Mr Savage get the same story or if VW come up with something even better :rolleyes:
I can understand the higher price for the Teck pack if it applied to both the GTI and the R (over the lesser models), but not a price discrepancy between those two. :huh: We are being fobbed off :angry:
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Well my salesmen was meant to be ringing me back on yesterday about it. Still nothing. Same as usual. Lol. Are all dealers this unreliable or Isit just mine out of curiosity? Had about 3 different salesmen and it's always been the same story.
Just picked up another 9pm email from my dealer. He's not yet heard back from VW Product & Marketing, and if he doesn't get a response on Monday, he will chase.
I've had some good salesmen but also some that were awful for communicating or more accurately NOT communicating. I like my current dealer, and at least he's keeping in touch. Plus he was personally recommended to me by a member on here, which carries some weight in my book.
In all my new car buying history, the best service I've received has been from salesmen at broker dealerships.
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Just came back from a little spin just for the sake of it.
I am glad to report that I am perfectly happy with my 5.8" DNS and not envious of a bigger screen. I paid less than RRP for both the DNS and Dynaudio, so I am more than satisfied with my lot.
The car is immense and I could not stop grinning after my little spin this evening.
You guys and gals who are waiting for your Rs are in for a real treat.
I am delighted you have accepted inevitable defeat and have learned to love every one of your 5.8 inches :kiss: :smiley:
And now you're trying to make us, the R-in-waiting crowd, jealous by rubbing it in that,
a) you have one
and
b) it's IMMENSE.
Touché I guess!!! Grrrr :angry: :grin: :grin: :laugh:
No, really I'm really pleased you are feeling the R love, one day I hope to feel it too :smiley:
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My dear Miss Booth,
No, no, I am not trying to rub it in. With only 5.8" at my disposal, I would not dare be so brazen!
And when you take delivery of your delectable 8" whilst being ensconced in Black Leather/Leatherette, you too will be in R Heaven.
Just remember that my CD Drive will most probably sound better than your DVD Drive. :evil: :laugh:
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My dear Miss Booth,
No, no, I am not trying to rub it in. With only 5.8" at my disposal, I would not dare be so brazen!
And when you take delivery of your delectable 8" whilst being ensconced in Black Leather/Leatherette, you too will be in R Heaven.
Just remember that my CD Drive will most probably sound better than your DVD Drive. :evil: :laugh:
Did you have to cheapen my car by mentioning the L word :laugh:
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My dear Miss Booth,
No, no, I am not trying to rub it in. With only 5.8" at my disposal, I would not dare be so brazen!
And when you take delivery of your delectable 8" whilst being ensconced in Black Leather/Leatherette, you too will be in R Heaven.
Just remember that my CD Drive will most probably sound better than your DVD Drive. :evil: :laugh:
Did you have to cheapen my car by mentioning the L word :laugh:
Ok. Your car is not covered in L, but partially with Cow. Is the C word acceptable? :laugh:
I have faux C on my door cards.
If you wait long enough, even C + faux C will be free!
BW45 '14 gave us the Dynaudio option and faux leather door cards.
Between BW45 '14 and BW22 '15 we got the Tech and Parking Packs.
BW22 '15 will see the introduction of the 6.5" CMS/DNS and the Heated Steering Wheel option.
BW45 '15 Vienna Leather will probably be free.
And so it goes on and on .........
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They rumoured that leather would be free before and it never happened. You'd never buy a car if you kept waiting for BW changes. The R420 is being revealed in September at Frankfurt too.
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They rumoured that leather would be free before and it never happened. You'd never buy a car if you kept waiting for BW changes. The R420 is being revealed in September at Frankfurt too.
Exactly.
Anyway, if I had waited, I would never have got the lease deal I did and which I got by the skin of my teeth! It was available for 72 hours only, so I cancelled my previous R order (the car had already been built and was on its way!) with one London Dealer and jumped ship to my Local VW Dealer (West London VW, Inchcape Group) whom I knew well and who had previously provided me superb service when I had a Mk6 GTI.
So, all is well that ends well and as it should be.
Regarding the R420, it is too mad cap for me. The R is fast enough and more than suitable for my purpose.
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They rumoured that leather would be free before and it never happened. You'd never buy a car if you kept waiting for BW changes. The R420 is being revealed in September at Frankfurt too.
Sometimes they do include leather as standard when they are running out the last of a mk. It was included on my current mk6 GTI which I got shortly before they mk7 came in.
Agree though that you simply can't keep waiting for the next upgrade. If I was much further down the line with my R order I wouldn't bother with the Tech Pack, but as it's imminent and I'm still very much in unconfirmed build week territory then it's worth doing.
Regarding the R420, it is too mad cap for me. The R is fast enough and more than suitable for my purpose.
I have a soft spot for the R420 just because it is a bit madcap, but do I want one? No, not even if it was covered from bumper to bumper in real COW HIDE :wink:
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Regarding the R420, it is too mad cap for me. The R is fast enough and more than suitable for my purpose.
I have a soft spot for the R420 just because it is a bit madcap, but do I want one? No, not even if it was covered from bumper to bumper in real COW HIDE :wink:
That would certainly be a sight for sore eyes. Better to stick with Vienna Vinyl Leather but just on the inside. :evil: :wink: :laugh:
When is your unconfirmed BW?
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Just popped down to my dealer and the Tech Pack was added to my GTI order at £1240. The guy said the dealers only had the bulletin yesterday about it. It was estimated for a week 19 build so will have to wait until Tuesday to see if that has changed.
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Regarding the R420, it is too mad cap for me. The R is fast enough and more than suitable for my purpose.
I have a soft spot for the R420 just because it is a bit madcap, but do I want one? No, not even if it was covered from bumper to bumper in real COW HIDE :wink:
That would certainly be a sight for sore eyes. Better to stick with Vienna Vinyl Leather but just on the inside. :evil: :wink: :laugh:
When is your unconfirmed BW?
Ahh, Vinyl! When music sounded even better than CD's played on a 5.8" screened CD player :evil: :laugh:
My unconfirmed build week is 28.
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Just popped down to my dealer and the Tech Pack was added to my GTI order at £1240. The guy said the dealers only had the bulletin yesterday about it. It was estimated for a week 19 build so will have to wait until Tuesday to see if that has changed.
Good news that you've been able to add it to your order and that you've got it at such a bargain price :smiley:
Spare a thought for the R people being screwed for another £600 for exactly the same thing :angry:
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I really do think it is a pricing error (same price to add to a DNS equipped GT/SE), and the R price is correct for GTI/GTD/R. If the GTI/GTD orders get accepted by the factory before they realise their mistake (assuming it is a mistake) then it's their loss, not yours.
Just maybe, it is a genuine price and VW are using it to dampen enthusiasm for R while they can't make them quick enough? That assumes some would pick a GTI/GTD over an R for cheaper options rather than performance.
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Regarding the R420, it is too mad cap for me. The R is fast enough and more than suitable for my purpose.
I have a soft spot for the R420 just because it is a bit madcap, but do I want one? No, not even if it was covered from bumper to bumper in real COW HIDE :wink:
That would certainly be a sight for sore eyes. Better to stick with Vienna Vinyl Leather but just on the inside. :evil: :wink: :laugh:
When is your unconfirmed BW?
Ahh, Vinyl! When music sounded even better than CD's played on a 5.8" screened CD player :evil: :laugh:
My unconfirmed build week is 28.
BW28 is perfect. That is 6 weeks after the all important BW22, so if a new option like a Heated Steering Wheel is available, you will be able to spec it as your BW won't be locked. Only gets locked 4 weeks before the confirmed BW.
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I really do think it is a pricing error (same price to add to a DNS equipped GT/SE), and the R price is correct for GTI/GTD/R. If the GTI/GTD orders get accepted by the factory before they realise their mistake (assuming it is a mistake) then it's their loss, not yours.
Just maybe, it is a genuine price and VW are using it to dampen enthusiasm for R while they can't make them quick enough? That assumes some would pick a GTI/GTD over an R for cheaper options rather than performance.
I think it's a pricing error too. If it is, surely VW will have to honour that price to anyone who adds it (and has it officially accepted) before it gets corrected, as it has been advertised on the website at that price. Consumer rights and all that - Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.
If it is a mistake, I don't think it will be long before they realise, especially with R-to-be owners asking the question of VW.
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BW28 is perfect. That is 6 weeks after the all important BW22, so if a new option like a Heated Steering Wheel is available, you will be able to spec it as your BW won't be locked. Only gets locked 4 weeks before the confirmed BW.
Yes, hoping it does not come forward at all. In any case I want it September on a '65 plate.
A heated steering wheel would be a novelty, it's never really cold enough here to make one a necessity. If it becomes an option whilst I'm waiting, I could be tempted :whistle:
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I really do think it is a pricing error (same price to add to a DNS equipped GT/SE), and the R price is correct for GTI/GTD/R. If the GTI/GTD orders get accepted by the factory before they realise their mistake (assuming it is a mistake) then it's their loss, not yours.
Just maybe, it is a genuine price and VW are using it to dampen enthusiasm for R while they can't make them quick enough? That assumes some would pick a GTI/GTD over an R for cheaper options rather than performance.
I think it's a pricing error too. If it is, surely VW will have to honour that price to anyone who adds it (and has it officially accepted) before it gets corrected, as it has been advertised on the website at that price. Consumer rights and all that - Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.
If it is a mistake, I don't think it will be long before they realise, especially with R-to-be owners asking the question of VW.
I asked the dealership 3 or 4 times is that correct pricing and they said yes! If it is incorrect It seems I have been lucky but they said they spoke to the factory who confirmed the price as well. I definitely don't understand why the R is more expensive.
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BW28 is perfect. That is 6 weeks after the all important BW22, so if a new option like a Heated Steering Wheel is available, you will be able to spec it as your BW won't be locked. Only gets locked 4 weeks before the confirmed BW.
Yes, hoping it does not come forward at all. In any case I want it September on a '65 plate.
A heated steering wheel would be a novelty, it's never really cold enough here to make one a necessity. If it becomes an option whilst I'm waiting, I could be tempted :whistle:
The more tech on your car, the merrier. Might as well load it to the hilt. Whilst you are at it, did you know you CAN order electric seats. One or two punters have. Go on, there's nothing like an electric motor to serenely move your bum in all directions! :laugh:
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Yes, hoping it does not come forward at all. In any case I want it September on a '65 plate.
A heated steering wheel would be a novelty, it's never really cold enough here to make one a necessity. If it becomes an option whilst I'm waiting, I could be tempted :whistle:
The more tech on your car, the merrier. Might as well load it to the hilt. Whilst your at it, did you know you CAN order electric seats. One or two punters have. Go on, there's nothing like an electric motor to serenely move your bum in all directions! :laugh:
I can serenely move my bum in all directions without electrical assistance :laugh: You can keep your fancy seats :tongue:
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Yes, hoping it does not come forward at all. In any case I want it September on a '65 plate.
A heated steering wheel would be a novelty, it's never really cold enough here to make one a necessity. If it becomes an option whilst I'm waiting, I could be tempted :whistle:
The more tech on your car, the merrier. Might as well load it to the hilt. Whilst your at it, did you know you CAN order electric seats. One or two punters have. Go on, there's nothing like an electric motor to serenely move your bum in all directions! :laugh:
I can serenely move my bum in all directions without electrical assistance :laugh: You can keep your fancy seats :tongue:
Twerk it! :grin:
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Yes, hoping it does not come forward at all. In any case I want it September on a '65 plate.
A heated steering wheel would be a novelty, it's never really cold enough here to make one a necessity. If it becomes an option whilst I'm waiting, I could be tempted :whistle:
The more tech on your car, the merrier. Might as well load it to the hilt. Whilst your at it, did you know you CAN order electric seats. One or two punters have. Go on, there's nothing like an electric motor to serenely move your bum in all directions! :laugh:
I can serenely move my bum in all directions without electrical assistance :laugh: You can keep your fancy seats :tongue:
Twerk it! :grin:
:grin: Haha, as we speak :wink: :laugh:
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Yes, hoping it does not come forward at all. In any case I want it September on a '65 plate.
A heated steering wheel would be a novelty, it's never really cold enough here to make one a necessity. If it becomes an option whilst I'm waiting, I could be tempted :whistle:
The more tech on your car, the merrier. Might as well load it to the hilt. Whilst your at it, did you know you CAN order electric seats. One or two punters have. Go on, there's nothing like an electric motor to serenely move your bum in all directions! :laugh:
I can serenely move my bum in all directions without electrical assistance :laugh: You can keep your fancy seats :tongue:
Twerk it! :grin:
:grin: Haha, as we speak :wink: :laugh:
Getting disturbing images of am1w being the bloke from the latest moneysupermarket advert. :shocked:
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Dear Monsieur monkeyhanger:
Wipe those foul images tout suite. Nothing could be further than that. I am tall, very slim, clean shaven, full head of hair, very well groomed and very, very handsome, so I have been told by everyone.
Back to cars. Try and get your BW to become 22 or later to get the 6.5" CMS. 5.8" will not satisfy you seeing that you have a penchant for big wheels.
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Dear Monsieur monkeyhanger:
I am tall, very slim, clean shaven, full head of hair, very well groomed and very, very handsome,...
Is that what you put in your 'advert' :wink: I think it might be wasted on Monsieur MH :grin:
It does seem a cruel twist of fate to have your build week constantly pushed back and then it finally gets built just before BW22 :sad:
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Dear Monsieur monkeyhanger:
I am tall, very slim, clean shaven, full head of hair, very well groomed and very, very handsome,...
Is that what you put in your 'advert' :wink: I think it might be wasted on Monsieur MH :grin:
It does seem a cruel twist of fate to have your build week constantly pushed back and then it finally gets built just before BW22 :sad:
And I have got all me own teeth !! :laugh: :whistle:
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Dear Monsieur monkeyhanger:
I am tall, very slim, clean shaven, full head of hair, very well groomed and very, very handsome,...
Is that what you put in your 'advert' :wink: I think it might be wasted on Monsieur MH :grin:
It does seem a cruel twist of fate to have your build week constantly pushed back and then it finally gets built just before BW22 :sad:
And I have got all me own teeth !! :laugh: :whistle:
Oh, yes. So do I and not a single filling! :smiley:
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I really do think it is a pricing error (same price to add to a DNS equipped GT/SE), and the R price is correct for GTI/GTD/R. If the GTI/GTD orders get accepted by the factory before they realise their mistake (assuming it is a mistake) then it's their loss, not yours.
Just maybe, it is a genuine price and VW are using it to dampen enthusiasm for R while they can't make them quick enough? That assumes some would pick a GTI/GTD over an R for cheaper options rather than performance.
They once made a mistake a few years ago when loads of Mk6 Match models arrived from the factory with the RNS 510 rather than RCD 510. So a lot of people got a free and un-expected Sat Nav upgrade!
They rumoured that leather would be free before and it never happened. You'd never buy a car if you kept waiting for BW changes. The R420 is being revealed in September at Frankfurt too.
Sometimes they do include leather as standard when they are running out the last of a mk. It was included on my current mk6 GTI which I got shortly before they mk7 came in.
Agree though that you simply can't keep waiting for the next upgrade. If I was much further down the line with my R order I wouldn't bother with the Tech Pack, but as it's imminent and I'm still very much in unconfirmed build week territory then it's worth doing.
Yeah historically the Mk5 and Mk6 GT, GTI and GTD models got free leather during run out, so I'd expect the same might happen for the Mk7. But agree its not worth constantly waiting as by the time that happens the Mk8 will be roound the corner!
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Dear Monsieur monkeyhanger:
I am tall, very slim, clean shaven, full head of hair, very well groomed and very, very handsome,...
Is that what you put in your 'advert' :wink: I think it might be wasted on Monsieur MH :grin:
It does seem a cruel twist of fate to have your build week constantly pushed back and then it finally gets built just before BW22 :sad:
Contacted my dealer yesterday to see if they required my p/x, as my mate now wants it if he can have it for the agreed p/x price, and with the R being put back and back, their margin in it is dwindling by the week.
Yes they still want it to subsidise my heavily discounted R, so my mate is out of luck, but letting him drive mine for a week by way of extended test drive while i'm out of action and he might lease a GTD. Salesman said the R has dropped back to BW18/19 on Friday(from BW21 Tues).....VW UK made good on their attempts to "push" my order, or is Wolfsburg scheduling THAT volatile right now?
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Dear Monsieur monkeyhanger:
I am tall, very slim, clean shaven, full head of hair, very well groomed and very, very handsome,...
Is that what you put in your 'advert' :wink: I think it might be wasted on Monsieur MH :grin:
It does seem a cruel twist of fate to have your build week constantly pushed back and then it finally gets built just before BW22 :sad:
Contacted my dealer yesterday to see if they required my p/x, as my mate now wants it if he can have it for the agreed p/x price, and with the R being put back and back, their margin in it is dwindling by the week.
Yes they still want it to subsidise my heavily discounted R, so my mate is out of luck, but letting him drive mine for a week by way of extended test drive while i'm out of action and he might lease a GTD. Salesman said the R has dropped back to BW18/19 on Friday(from BW21 Tues).....VW UK made good on their attempts to "push" my order, or is Wolfsburg scheduling THAT volatile right now?
So near and yet so far to get the 6.5" CMS from BW22 onwards.
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Update from my dealer this morning but still no answer to the R Tech Pack pricing question. Looks like I'll have to wait till VWUK sort themselves out, before I can add the pack. Usual top class service from VWUK :rolleyes:
Hi Rebecca,
Volkswagen has introduced these options but the factory ordering system will not let us currently add the Tech pack, and the Park pack is not yet showing.
Volkswagen UK are aware of this, with product and marketing in the process of sorting this out, I hope at the same time they will come back to me about the pricing
I will let you know once the Tech pack has been added.
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VWUK sort themselves out, that will be the day, not complaining as i did rather well out of seatgate on the R
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VWUK sort themselves out, that will be the day, not complaining as i did rather well out of seatgate on the R
Quite.
The email should really read:
Hi Rebecca,
Volkswagen has introduced these options but the factory ordering system will not let us currently add the Tech pack, and the Park pack is not yet showing. has absolutely no idea what they are doing. One fine day you may be lucky enough to order the options they prematurely offer on their website, at whatever discriminatory price they deem high enough to screw prospective R owners......but don't hold your breath!!!
What was seatgate all about then wigit?
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Quite.
The email should really read:
Hi Rebecca,
Volkswagen has introduced these options but the factory ordering system will not let us currently add the Tech pack, and the Park pack is not yet showing. has absolutely no idea what they are doing. One fine day you may be lucky enough to order the options they prematurely offer on their website, at whatever discriminatory price they deem high enough to screw prospective R owners......but don't hold your breath!!!
What was seatgate all about then wigit?
Ha, ha. Good one! VW don't know whether they are Arthur or Martha. Probably Marthur!
Had the same drama last year when I tried to order Dynaudio. It was on the Configurator but not enabled for a Dealer to order it. By the time it was and included on the Dealer Order System, 3 weeks after my original order was accepted by the Factory, the BW moved from 2, then 4, then 9, then 7, then 8, then back to 7 where it remained. So it was up and down like a hooker's knickers!
Talk about turning customers into Marthurs. :laugh:
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Ha, ha. Good one! VW don't know whether they are Arthur or Martha. Probably Marthur!
Had the same drama last year when I tried to order Dynaudio. It was on the Configurator but not enabled for a Dealer to order it. By the time it was and included on the Dealer Order System, 3 weeks after my original order was accepted by the Factory, the BW moved from 2, then 4, then 9, then 7, then 8, then back to 7 where it remained. So it was up and down like a hooker's knickers!
Talk about turning customers into Marthurs. :laugh:
Lol :laugh:
'ello Marthur :wink:
Oh how they do like to test us loyal (aka stupid) customers! Roll on the next VW drama, this certainly won't be the last :whistle:
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Ha, ha. Good one! VW don't know whether they are Arthur or Martha. Probably Marthur!
Had the same drama last year when I tried to order Dynaudio. It was on the Configurator but not enabled for a Dealer to order it. By the time it was and included on the Dealer Order System, 3 weeks after my original order was accepted by the Factory, the BW moved from 2, then 4, then 9, then 7, then 8, then back to 7 where it remained. So it was up and down like a hooker's knickers!
Talk about turning customers into Marthurs. :laugh:
Lol :laugh:
'ello Marthur :wink:
Oh how they do like to test us loyal (aka stupid) customers! Roll on the next VW drama, this certainly won't be the last :whistle:
It is really bad towards the end whilst waiting for your car to get from the Fatherland Port of Emden to a port in Blighty. The guys on the R forum were tracking boats on an hourly basis! They were going nuts as later BW cars were arriving before earlier BW ones. How crazy is that? Never seen so many Marthurs on a car forum.
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Ha, ha. Good one! VW don't know whether they are Arthur or Martha. Probably Marthur!
Had the same drama last year when I tried to order Dynaudio. It was on the Configurator but not enabled for a Dealer to order it. By the time it was and included on the Dealer Order System, 3 weeks after my original order was accepted by the Factory, the BW moved from 2, then 4, then 9, then 7, then 8, then back to 7 where it remained. So it was up and down like a hooker's knickers!
Talk about turning customers into Marthurs. :laugh:
Lol :laugh:
'ello Marthur :wink:
Oh how they do like to test us loyal (aka stupid) customers! Roll on the next VW drama, this certainly won't be the last :whistle:
It is really bad towards the end whilst waiting for your car to get from the Fatherland Port of Emden to a port in Blighty. The guys on the R forum were tracking boats on an hourly basis! They were going nuts as later BW cars were arriving before earlier BW ones. How crazy is that? Never seen so many Marthurs on a car forum.
I lurked about on that site and watched with a wry smile the blue touch paper being lit time and time again. :laugh:
Why get stressed over something you have no control over. I must admit I have resorted to second guessing what boat it would be on and had a look myself but never felt compelled to take to an Internet forum to bleat about it in the same way some of them have :grin:
One day you get a phone call to say it has landed at the dealers and then you start counting sleeps !!
Don't even get me started on the apoplectic posts on the much fabled tracker though. That thing has caused it's fair share of raised blood pressure too. Always good for a laugh though :whistle:
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It is really bad towards the end whilst waiting for your car to get from the Fatherland Port of Emden to a port in Blighty. The guys on the R forum were tracking boats on an hourly basis! They were going nuts as later BW cars were arriving before earlier BW ones. How crazy is that? Never seen so many Marthurs on a car forum.
Haha yeah I've seen all that stuff on the R forum, the wild obsession with tracking the Emden boats. Very amusing and not in a good way :laugh:
I do regularly read the R forum (mostly for factual info) but haven't bothered registering yet, tbh I don't feel much inclination to. That place has a weird vibe, plus there's a couple of members on there that massively annoy me, real chip on their shoulder superior types. I know it's a bit better than it was since the facelift, and there's been a couple of their more rational members come on here to say hi, but I'd rather spend my valuable time on this forum.
As for my R. It'll turn up when it turns up.
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Ha, ha. Good one! VW don't know whether they are Arthur or Martha. Probably Marthur!
Had the same drama last year when I tried to order Dynaudio. It was on the Configurator but not enabled for a Dealer to order it. By the time it was and included on the Dealer Order System, 3 weeks after my original order was accepted by the Factory, the BW moved from 2, then 4, then 9, then 7, then 8, then back to 7 where it remained. So it was up and down like a hooker's knickers!
Talk about turning customers into Marthurs. :D
Lol :D
'ello Marthur ;)
Oh how they do like to test us loyal (aka stupid) customers! Roll on the next VW drama, this certainly won't be the last :whistle:
It is really bad towards the end whilst waiting for your car to get from the Fatherland Port of Emden to a port in Blighty. The guys on the R forum were tracking boats on an hourly basis! They were going nuts as later BW cars were arriving before earlier BW ones. How crazy is that? Never seen so many Marthurs on a car forum.
I lurked about on that site and watched with a wry smile the blue touch paper being lit time and time again. :D
Why get stressed over something you have no control over. I must admit I have resorted to second guessing what boat it would be on and had a look myself but never felt compelled to take to an Internet forum to bleat about it in the same way some of them have ;D
One day you get a phone call to say it has landed at the dealers and then you start counting sleeps !!
Don't even get me started on the apoplectic posts on the much fabled tracker though. That thing has caused it's fair share of raised blood pressure too. Always good for a laugh though :whistle:
Erm.......
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=258683.0
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I won't sign up on there either. Lurk. Yes. But sign up. Not a chance :whistle:
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VWUK are just useless, they must up the GTE and Polo GTI web launches
In reality I am grateful they messed up with seatgate as I did come out of that rather well
Never really fussed with the obsessive tracking of orders, I dip in now and again, people just need to realise its just a Golf
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Your right about the R forum, some members do have some big egos, & what's with the guy that calls himself R400 ,does he even have a golf R.
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I lurked about on that site and watched with a wry smile the blue touch paper being lit time and time again. :laugh:
Why get stressed over something you have no control over. I must admit I have resorted to second guessing what boat it would be on and had a look myself but never felt compelled to take to an Internet forum to bleat about it in the same way some of them have :grin:
One day you get a phone call to say it has landed at the dealers and then you start counting sleeps !!
Don't even get me started on the apoplectic posts on the much fabled tracker though. That thing has caused it's fair share of raised blood pressure too. Always good for a laugh though :whistle:
I agree, and the tracker checking compulsion bemuses me :rolleyes: I get that people are excited about their new car, but manically checking every few minutes is not going to make it come any quicker. I don't really bother about stuff like that, I order the car, know it's going to take an age to arrive and then keep the occasional tabs on it but otherwise forget about it. If it wasn't for the recent introduction of the Tech Pack, I doubt I'd be giving my order much thought really, until it arrives. I'll use the waiting time to read up on the new tech and foibles.
And then there are some on there that will never be happy with their car, always looking for issues, that probably don't really exist are are merely a figment of their imagination. :whistle:
@Jimble - haha, yep just as bad on here with the tracker, but otherwise a wittier, grown up forum :cool:
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Your right about the R forum, some members do have some big egos, & what's with the guy that calls himself R400 ,does he even have a golf R.
You know what, I'm actually starting to really like R400 and kind of root for them, whether he/she has an R or not. So far he's not risen to it and that just drives them all mad. I think R forum members set themselves up for that sort of thing.
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What people need to do with their Rs are turn the traction control off and drive it properly and metaphorically grow a pair
Used mine for work today and walking back just thought how good it is, my wife has now run hers in and said she just loves it
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The R forum has improved considerably ever since a certain mod of unbelievable arrogance sacked himself and another member with a rather long forum name hardly ever posts his incomprehensible views. It is also policed with less gusto than before.
Regarding R400 the member, he has a faux R as he is waiting for his faux R400. I find his posts quite amusing.
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The R forum has improved considerably ever since a certain mod of unbelievable arrogance sacked himself and another member with a rather long forum name hardly ever posts his incomprehensible views. It is also policed with less gusto than before.
True, but I would rather post here :smiley:
Tbh it has gone a bit stale recently. There is not a lot going on.
Blimey, how far has this thread gone off topic ??
Anyone had an update in the last couple of hours :whistle: :whistle:
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What people need to do with their Rs are turn the traction control off and drive it properly and metaphorically grow a pair
Used mine for work today and walking back just thought how good it is, my wife has now run hers in and said she just loves it
Well said wigit.
Glad Mrs wigit is loving it, I know her Ed30 Pirelli was a tough act to follow.
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The R forum has improved considerably ever since a certain mod of unbelievable arrogance sacked himself and another member with a rather long forum name hardly ever posts his incomprehensible views. It is also policed with less gusto than before.
Regarding R400 the member, he has a faux R as he is waiting for his faux R400. I find his posts quite amusing.
Faux R or not, troll or not he is amusing. Part of me hopes he has a fleet of supercars, never mind an R.
I know the sacked Mod and the other guy you are referring to, but them aside there are still others whose holier-than-thou-attitude grates. Btw, you are not one of them :kiss: Every forum has it's share I suppose, but it's much less evident on here.
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True, but I would rather post here :smiley:
Tbh it has gone a bit stale recently. There is not a lot going on.
Blimey, how far has this thread gone off topic ??
Anyone had an update in the last couple of hours :whistle: :whistle:
Haha, who cares if it's off topic for a bit.
No update, no usual 9pm dealer email. He's losing his touch :grin:
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The R forum has improved considerably ever since a certain mod of unbelievable arrogance sacked himself and another member with a rather long forum name hardly ever posts his incomprehensible views. It is also policed with less gusto than before.
Regarding R400 the member, he has a faux R as he is waiting for his faux R400. I find his posts quite amusing.
Faux R or not, troll or not he is amusing. Part of me hopes he has a fleet of supercars, never mind an R.
I know the sacked Mod and the other guy you are referring to, but them aside there are still others whose holier-than-thou-attitude grates. Btw, you are not one of them :kiss: Every forum has it's share I suppose, but it's much less evident on here.
Agree with everything said above. Still go there as there's not enough posts here to keep me occupied on the laptop while my wife is watching something I really don't want to.
Huge bones of contention there are:
"Manual is crap, they're so slow, a DSG GTD would beat a manual R in a drag race" etc etc. Seems a fair number of DSGers there bought not for the general city driving advantages/convenience of DSG, but purely for bragging rights of launch control, if that's what floats your boat then so be it, but we each have our preferences.
"Leasers are evil - how dare they save themselves £150 a month over what I paid on PCP, it's not fair!".
"Everyone who bought a manual is stupid, don't they know that 80% of manual clutches are going to fail?".
In the early days of joining the R forum, the "Mafia" of that certain moderator and 5 or so cohorts were going out of their way to "beat down" new members.
Does make me laugh. R400 is a comedy act, i'm 110% sure he doesn't believe everything he posts, just likes getting a rise.
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I joined it recently and made a few posts - it seems a perfectly good place to me - I guess thats due to the recent departures though...
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I joined it recently and made a few posts - it seems a perfectly good place to me - I guess thats due to the recent departures though...
Mark,
Yes it has hugely improved with the departures and the remnants of the Mafia winding their necks in a bit :grin:, the lease envy still sees a bit of venomous commentary though.
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Agree with everything said above. Still go there as there's not enough posts here to keep me occupied on the laptop while my wife is watching something I really don't want to.
Lol, same here only it in my case it's whilst HWMBO is watching stuff I don't like, or worse still children's TV. Disney has a lot to answer for :laugh:
I joined it recently and made a few posts - it seems a perfectly good place to me - I guess thats due to the recent departures though...
I think it has improved of late and maybe I am being a bit harsh, but imo many of the posts and attitudes still swing between boastful arrogance and condescension, with some wearing their intelligence as some sort of badge.
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I rather like the R forum now. In fact, I like it very much, especially now that the horrors of the past, the R Mafia, have muzzled themselves having at long last realised that that they are not liked. The 'Like Button' has been a great way to more or less shut them up. They certainly are not the dearly departed.
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I rather like the R forum now. In fact, I like it very much, especially now that the horrors of the past, the R Mafia, have muzzled themselves having at long last realised that that they are not liked. The 'Like Button' has been a great way to more or less shut them up. They certainly are not the dearly departed.
The comment above would have me pressing the like button if we had one here.
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I rather like the R forum now. In fact, I like it very much, especially now that the horrors of the past, the R Mafia, have muzzled themselves having at long last realised that that they are not liked. The 'Like Button' has been a great way to more or less shut them up. They certainly are not the dearly departed.
I'm glad you like it there, sounds like there's hope and I agree the introduction of a 'like' button probably goes some way to helping. That said, I'm not in favour of silencing people just because they have an alternative opinion, freedom of speech and all that.
Maybe I'll learn to like it too one day :smiley:
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"The R is a great car but overpriced. It's also got a tiny boot."
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"The R is a great car but overpriced. It's also got a tiny boot."
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It's true......but I still want one :wink:
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"The R is a great car but overpriced. It's also got a tiny boot."
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That is why I went for the alltrack :wink: and plus the r forum is full off t### I might start my own forum just for Passat's the 4wd versions only and when the 2wd versions try and join well belittle them for they are not worthy. Right it's snowing outside so I'm of for a drive :grin: Oh and what's the date (for those who lack a sense of humour)
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I pop over to the R forum if I'm bored on a night shift and it does seem to have gone a bit quiet over there.
I do indeed even have a profile over there as I do on many forums just so I can use the classifieds!!! :tongue:
I think that forum got all the waifs and strays that would have ended up here. The ones obsessing over a 0.001 advantage on a 0-60 (0-62?) and wanting a lease car for 50p a month then expecting to modify it like it was the 5 year old VXR they'd realistically have been buying in normal circumstances. The ones who sit on their laptops obsessing over lap times and worrying they might not have the fastest 0-60 time rather than just enjoying the car for what it is - a very sophisticated Golf hatchback which is mass produced the same as everything else they hanker after in their lives.
I used to get that in the days before the internet when I had an 8v mk2 Golf GTI
"My Astra GTE is half a second quicker than your overpriced Golf"
"Really, how interesting, unfortunately I don't live on a grand prix circuit, and by the way, what's that brown bubbly stuff on your rear wheel arches? And by the way that baseball cap makes you look a tw@t not cool"
Ok, I'd never be that rude really but you get my drift.
So yes, that forum is ripe pickings for a wind up merchant like R400 and he reminds me of Egbert Nosh on here who I used to find really funny. Drop in, drop a bomb and bugger off once the explosions start. Some of his posts look a bit random but in fact they're designed to have maximum effect I'd guess. He's a natural.
Mind you it would be funny if he did actually turn out to be 14!
As for the lease envy, I know a few on there have no idea of the concept of modesty and have their heads firmly shoved up their own self important arses but I can understand how a few of them felt when they shelled out £40k either "Oh, I just had it in cash knocking about" or on their PCP deals or whatever then found out a load of people could just wander in and hire them for next to nothing! That's gotta hurt!
Karma I guess!
Forums are funny places.
I did a trackday once and met a lad (nice guy) who had spent out loads on mods for his car, when talking to him in the flesh he was a) a little bit anal and b) despite being hugely modified he never drove his car to even 4/10ths of its performance as he was worried about it getting dirty!
"Are you out on track later?"
"No, I've just had my engine bay detailed"
Says it all really!
Mind you, I was driving someone else's car on track so can't talk!!!!! :laugh:
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Andy, my dear chap. Your post should win the prize for the longest! Loved reading it.
Yes, there was considerable abuse showered on the leasers of which I am one. I don't think even a proctologist would be able to extricate their craniums from their rectums. But things have calmed down considerably as the R Mafia (let's call them the Rafia) were swamped by us lowly leasers. The Golf R is a very fast mass produced shopping trolley with a small rear cavity. But the Rafia were unable to facilitate a reality check and their rather anally retentive and rather abusive attitude was most unwelcoming. As far as the Rafia is concerned, the R is perfection and a better car than a Porsche Cayman and 911. Yeh right, pigs will fly and turn into angels!
Anyway, both you and Rebecca should start posting on there and ruffle a few vulture feathers. What that forum lacks is the extra dose of humour you both would bring and I am sure it will be appreciated, especially by moi.
My goodness, this thread has veered severely off topic and our mod is going to spank us!
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Would be nice if it could get close to being back on topic... :grin:
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Would be nice if it could get close to being back on topic... :grin:
nicely moderated :)
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Would be nice if it could get close to being back on topic... :grin:
nicely moderated :)
Jimble could teach the R forum mods a thing or two - watch and learn :wink:
On topic, Oh VWUK, where art thou my Tech Pack??
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One of the great things about this place is it requires very little moderation, everyone is friendly (if a little odd sometimes :tongue:) and anything that gets reported gets sorted, no need to be heavy handed although it might be nice if people used the search once in a while? Just sayin..... :smiley:
Anyway, these packs may be of interest to myself quite soon.... :lipsrsealed:
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Anyway, these packs may be of interest to myself quite soon.... :lipsrsealed:
Getting an R Estate are we for the pram? :wink:
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Anyway, these packs may be of interest to myself quite soon.... :lipsrsealed:
Getting an R Estate are we for the pram? :wink:
Touareg?
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Anyway, these packs may be of interest to myself quite soon.... :-X
Getting an R Estate are we for the pram? ;)
Nope..
Anyway, these packs may be of interest to myself quite soon.... :-X
Getting an R Estate are we for the pram? ;)
Touareg?
Got one! nearly backed out of getting it due to a break in at home to try and steal the R but thats another story,my wife was adamant that the R was going so took the plunge, it's an awesome piece of kit but i just can't get the GTI off my mind! I really liked the R, who wouldn't? It's a superb car to drive fast but i never loved it. Nothings set in stone but might end up in a GTI with a little runaround for my wife.
One of these days i might keep a car for more than a year!?.. God i miss my mk6! :(
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Wow - did you take the cheap lease thats been available recently?
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Wow - did you take the cheap lease thats been available recently?
No mate, not a big fan of leasing tbh, just got a really good trade in due to the value of the car i was buying.
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Jimbe, sorry to hear of the attempted theft of the R - seems a lot of that up your way, must have been very unnerving for you all :sad:
So you moved over to the 4x4 side of the fence, but sounds like you're counting the time till your back in a GTI :wink:
I'm gonna really miss my mk6 too, gotta to make the most of our last few months together :cry:
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Jimble my dear: Sorry to hear about the attempted theft. What a terrible experience, but not as bad as some who have been mugged and car stolen, break-ins for the keys, violence and keys stolen etc., etc.
All I can say about thefts of Rs: Wish I had got something else now. Same dramas ensued when I got my BMW as they were being stolen at an accelerated rate.
Now what we need is the R400/420 to be released ASAP so that the blighters concentrate on these and leave the lowly Rs alone.
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Was quite traumatic tbh, my wife and newborn son were still in hospital so was alone in the house thankfully?? I was woken at 2am on the dot by a bloke going through my bedside table trying to find my keys!!!! I chased him down the stairs but didn't catch him unfortunately, i must've been so tired from being at the hospital all day every day for for a week that i didn't hear them break in through the back doors and rummage through my kitchen! I've got them on CCTV which i've given to the police so hopefully something might come of that? If i'd have just been a bit quicker i could've kicked him down the stairs!! :angry:
Scum... :angry:
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Was quite traumatic tbh, my wife and newborn son were still in hospital so was alone in the house thankfully?? I was woken at 2am on the dot by a bloke going through my bedside table trying to find my keys!!!! I chased him down the stairs but didn't catch him unfortunately, i must've been so tired from being at the hospital all day every day for for a week that i didn't hear them break in through the back doors and rummage through my kitchen! I've got them on CCTV which i've given to the police so hopefully something might come of that? If i'd have just been a bit quicker i could've kicked him down the stairs!! :angry:
Scum... :angry:
OMG. Really upsetting to read this. How awful for you. Makes me sick just thinking about what you must have gone through. Bloody brastards. :angry:
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Was quite traumatic tbh, my wife and newborn son were still in hospital so was alone in the house thankfully?? I was woken at 2am on the dot by a bloke going through my bedside table trying to find my keys!!!! I chased him down the stairs but didn't catch him unfortunately, i must've been so tired from being at the hospital all day every day for for a week that i didn't hear them break in through the back doors and rummage through my kitchen! I've got them on CCTV which i've given to the police so hopefully something might come of that? If i'd have just been a bit quicker i could've kicked him down the stairs!! :angry:
Scum... :angry:
My god Jimble, how terrible for you. Thank god your wife and baby son weren't at home at the time, but traumatic enough for you. Fingers crossed the Police pick the little b******s up.
On a lighter note, congratulations on becoming a dad, hope you and your wife are enjoying parenthood, and Jimble Junior is doing well. Hope you haven't managed to fill up the Touareg with kiddi crap yet :laugh:
Off topic again :rolleyes: but some things are more important :smiley:
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Was quite traumatic tbh, my wife and newborn son were still in hospital so was alone in the house thankfully?? I was woken at 2am on the dot by a bloke going through my bedside table trying to find my keys!!!! I chased him down the stairs but didn't catch him unfortunately, i must've been so tired from being at the hospital all day every day for for a week that i didn't hear them break in through the back doors and rummage through my kitchen! I've got them on CCTV which i've given to the police so hopefully something might come of that? If i'd have just been a bit quicker i could've kicked him down the stairs!! :angry:
Scum... :angry:
Bloody Hell! This just seems to be getting so common now.
Thank goodness the scumbag made a run for it rather then hitting you with something (or worse) as that wouldn't have been a great way of starting life as a dad. I really think they need proper deterrents to stop scumbags like this just showing complete disregard to others and their property. I appreciate that some people, well an awful lot of people, don't have the best starts in life and don't have opportunities or prospects offered to them in a way that they can see a better future for themselves through hard work and focus, but there's no excuse for this sort of crime.
1) Congratulations James and Mrs Jimble, welcome to the world of "what the hell did I do with all my time before we had kids" :grin:
2) Have you got the Touareg already? Has the R gone already? I bet it won't hang about long on the forecourt!
3) Is the Touareg a short term buy then if you're thinking about a GTI & a runabout or will you keep all three?
There endeth the questions!
back on topic - "my, what wonderful value the Tech Pack offers on the GTI/D..." :smiley:
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It seems car crime in the Midlands, especially West Midlands, has reached epidemic proportions. I would respectfully suggest to move to sunny Southern England if one wishes to remain in this country.
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Was quite traumatic tbh, my wife and newborn son were still in hospital so was alone in the house thankfully?? I was woken at 2am on the dot by a bloke going through my bedside table trying to find my keys!!!! I chased him down the stairs but didn't catch him unfortunately, i must've been so tired from being at the hospital all day every day for for a week that i didn't hear them break in through the back doors and rummage through my kitchen! I've got them on CCTV which i've given to the police so hopefully something might come of that? If i'd have just been a bit quicker i could've kicked him down the stairs!! :angry:
Scum... :angry:
Bloody Hell! This just seems to be getting so common now.
Thank goodness the scumbag made a run for it rather then hitting you with something (or worse) as that wouldn't have been a great way of starting life as a dad. I really think they need proper deterrents to stop scumbags like this just showing complete disregard to others and their property. I appreciate that some people, well an awful lot of people, don't have the best starts in life and don't have opportunities or prospects offered to them in a way that they can see a better future for themselves through hard work and focus, but there's no excuse for this sort of crime.
1) Congratulations James and Mrs Jimble, welcome to the world of "what the hell did I do with all my time before we had kids" :grin:
2) Have you got the Touareg already? Has the R gone already? I bet it won't hang about long on the forecourt!
3) Is the Touareg a short term buy then if you're thinking about a GTI & a runabout or will you keep all three?
There endeth the questions!
back on topic - "my, what wonderful value the Tech Pack offers on the GTI/D..." :smiley:
1) Thanks! It's crazy how even when you're not feeding/changing/bathing etc your mind is still busy waiting for the next one! Wierd!
2) Yup, already got the Touareg, the R had already got a buyer a fortnight before it was traded! :shocked:
3) It was never meant to be short term, two and a half years ish until it's warranty ran out but it's a big old thing and sooo thirsty, 15mpg round town!! :sick: i do love it but like Rebecca touched on it's easy to just fill it with stuff which is superb for holidays but a bit unrewarding if you're not using the space if that makes sense??
Had a chat with the dealership and they will basically give me exactly what i payed for it against a GTI and a little used runaround for er indoors, so i'm seriously considering it, will need a roof box for longer holidays but the GTI looks ok with one so not a deal breaker. The Touareg is a beast though, it'll show a GTD it's tailights which is pretty awesome for such a big car, straight line only of course!! :smug:
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The packs make a big difference to the overall cost though. :lipsrsealed:
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The packs make a big difference to the overall cost though. :lipsrsealed:
Well recovered !! :grin:
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A novelty 'on topic' update :grin:
Received an email from dealer this morning, which confirms:
1. Park Park NOT available for R despite showing on configurator.
2. Tech Pack now available to order on system
3. Priced at £1240 on GTI/GTD
4. Priced at £1840 on R
Actual email reads:
"Hi Rebecca,
The Volkswagen ordering system has let us add the Tech pack to your Golf, I have found out when chasing Volkswagen UK that the Park pack is not available for the R or Line models, not sure why.
They have also confirmed the price has been set lower with the factory on the GTi for the Tech pack.
I'm away on holiday, once I am back at work I will confirm the price of your R with the Tech pack".
No 1. makes sense as Park Assist was not previously available on the R. Still no answer as to why the price is higher on the R! Question nicely evaded :rolleyes:
So, I get my Tech Pack but at but am being fleeced by £600 more than you lucky GTI/GTD people :cry: On balance it's still worth it to me to get the pack which gives me DNS Pro for only £370 more :smiley:
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Its not worth it on an R as you will get a larger screen after BW22 anyway - so makes more sense to just order standard nav and Dynaudio for around the same price as the so called 'Tech Pack' on a GTI (and avoid being fleeced just because you have an R.
Spare a thought for the likes of me and who paid full price for that Pro/Dynaudio combination - over 2k :-(
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Must be another incentive to get people buying GTI over R (what with the deposit contribution), although I doubt they need to do it for the GTD, still selling like hotcakes to company fleet and private buyers alike. Still unsure why VW have gone down the different pricing route if there is absolutely no technical reason why it should cost more on the R, it just looks like R owners are being ripped off to the initiated.
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Congratulations Rebecca regarding the inclusion of the Tech Pack with your order.
In Rebecca's case, she also wants Voice Control which is included with the 8" DNS Pro, but not with the 5.8" or 6.5" DNS models. She will pay an extra £370 over the 5.8" DNS or £420 over the 6.5" DNS (it appears the 6.5" model 'may be' £50 cheaper). So it's pretty good value to order the Tech Pack.
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'Good value' - you must be joking? All these combinations are a rip-off in any form - the R pricing where you are charged 600 more for the exact same thing s basically robbery...
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'Good value' - you must be joking? All these combinations are a rip-off in any form - the R pricing where you are charged 600 more for the exact same thing s basically robbery...
Compared to buying them separately it is 'good value' but compared to the cost of the same Tech Pack for the GTI/GTD, it is not and is a 'rip-off' of sorts.
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I managed to add the Tech Pack to my GTI order last week.
It seemed that there may have been a pricing error but it seems not. While it is a good price for both models and I have benefitted as have gone for the GTI i can't say I agree with vw's pricing. Surely it should be the same price on both models.
Hopefully my car should have a confirmed build week soon which is the most exciting thing hopefully won't be too long
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Ok 'less costly' works for me better than 'good value' - lol :smiley:
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Compared side by side with the price for the same on a GTI/GTD, the R Tech pack is going to look like a rip off (which it is in that context). Setting that aside, looking at the R price in isolation and the additional cost to me personally, I think it's worth going for. Entirely subjective, but I also think the 8" screen will look better than 6.5" and with the inclusion of Voice Command (which I had specced separately), it makes sense. So decision made.
Mark V GTD, I sympathise with you and anyone who paid full whack for Pro Nav and Dynaudio, Hell, I'd be pretty annoyed about it too, if I'd paid over £2k. But it is quite usual for changes and options to be added as you move further into the lifespan of a new generation car, so someone is always going to miss out on something somewhere along the line.
Knowing that changes occur was one of the reasons I waited to order an R. I wanted Dynaudio and was willing to wait for it. Additionally I never order the first off the line of a new generation Golf or whatever, buying a little way in allows teething problems to become apparent and any fixes or revisions put into place (hopefully). And during that time, there's much info to be gleaned from on forums so you get to know useful stuff in advance of ownership :smiley:
Anyway, the Tech Pack it is for me. Just lucky I didn't have my heart set on a Park pack too :whistle: :grin:
And for anyone ordering the Tech pack on a GTI/GTD at the lower price, good for you, it's.......GREAT VALUE FOR MONEY :wink: :smiley:
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Mark V GTD, I sympathise with you and anyone who paid full whack for Pro Nav and Dynaudio, Hell, I'd be pretty annoyed about it too, if I'd paid over £2k. But it is quite usual for changes and options to be added as you move further into the lifespan of a new generation car, so someone is always going to miss out on something somewhere along the line.
Totally agree - I'm not really that upset - I got good discount on the car and have had it for a year now - the options make it a desirable trade-in or private sale prospect when the time comes...
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Mark V GTD, I sympathise with you and anyone who paid full whack for Pro Nav and Dynaudio, Hell, I'd be pretty annoyed about it too, if I'd paid over £2k. But it is quite usual for changes and options to be added as you move further into the lifespan of a new generation car, so someone is always going to miss out on something somewhere along the line.
Totally agree - I'm not really that upset - I got good discount on the car and have had it for a year now - the options make it a desirable trade-in or private sale prospect when the time comes...
Glad you're not bitter and twisted about it Mark :laugh:
Yes, agree your options should make it an attractive proposition when you come to sell or trade-in.
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latest news - VWFS giving a 1,250 deposit contribution on the Golf - including GTI But not R or GTD!
So thats basically a free 'Tech Pack' - that, I accept, IS good value!
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Totally agree - I'm not really that upset - I got good discount on the car and have had it for a year now - the options make it a desirable trade-in or private sale prospect when the time comes...
Anyone with the contents of the tech pack ordered at old prices but not yet built should get some of their money back - anyone here in that situation?
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Anyone with the contents of the tech pack ordered at old prices but not yet built should get some of their money back - anyone here in that situation?
They should. But I can see VW Dealers trying to wriggle out of it. :rolleyes:
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latest news - VWFS giving a 1,250 deposit contribution on the Golf - including GTI But not R or GTD!
So thats basically a free 'Tech Pack' - that, I accept, IS good value!
Haha, so it is.
Wow, they definately want shot of those GTIs :whistle:
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Haha, so it is.
Wow, they definately want shot of those GTIs :whistle:
I think VW have shot themselves in the foot with the 7GTI not having a 280bhp engine like the Seat Cupra 280. Sales of a 280bhp 7GTI would probably go through the roof.
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Haha, so it is.
Wow, they definately want shot of those GTIs :whistle:
I think VW have shot themselves in the foot with the 7GTI not having a 280bhp engine like the Seat Cupra 280. Sales of a 280bhp 7GTI would probably go through the roof.
But then no-one would be wanting an R for an extra 20PS counteracted by the extra 120Kg of the 4Motion system. There will always be people who'd rather have a VW GTI with 220/230ps than a Seat Leon Cupra 265/280 due to equipment/interior/residual differences. My local Seat dealership is sh!te - all the attitude of an Audi dealership, but without the badge snobbery to match. trading in my MK5 GT170TDI, they wanted me to put a deposit down brfore I could take a test drive....I got a Scirocco instead.
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Haha, so it is.
Wow, they definately want shot of those GTIs :whistle:
I think VW have shot themselves in the foot with the 7GTI not having a 280bhp engine like the Seat Cupra 280. Sales of a 280bhp 7GTI would probably go through the roof.
It's the original pricing & old leasing deals on the R that shot the GTI in the foot. Whoever decided the R should be cheaper per month than the GTI should be fired.
The GTI is an amazing car (much nicer than the Seat Cupra 280 IMO) but the R stole it's thunder with 50p a month lease deals seeing many GTI's back at the dealer.
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It's the original pricing & old leasing deals on the R that shot the GTI in the foot. Whoever decided the R should be cheaper per month than the GTI should be fired.
The GTI is an amazing car (much nicer than the Seat Cupra 280 IMO) but the R stole it's thunder with 50p a month lease deals seeing many GTI's back at the dealer.
I agree this is what did for the GTI, VWUK have only themselves to blame and are trying to redress the balance. So it may be the future GTIers turn to get the better deal, and good luck to them.
All three GTI, GTD and R are very good cars. We on here are possibly pickier than most, scrutinising and analysing every little detail. Sometimes forgetting the bigger picture and the overall excellence of the car (for what it is) gets lost in that detail.
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Mr Savage:
The Golf R lease deals were not 50p ones. That is an exaggeration. They did cost a few hundred pounds a month. IMO the car is not worth more than that and the GTI/GTD prices should also be reduced accordingly and considerably as they seem overpriced to me.
Anyway, I feel extremely happy and very fortunate to have jumped onto a 3 year very cheap lease bandwagon directly from my local VW Dealership. Felt euphoric and a bit like a lottery win! At the time it seemed too good to be true and it still does.
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GTD is cheap to lease as well, it just didn't get much attention as the R overshadows it.
Of the trio the GTI has sold in the fewest numbers. I originally thought this was deliberate by VW to keep it relatively exclusive and desirable, but these recent offers are making me think otherwise! I'm still surprised on the Tech Pack pricing though as it does feel like DNS should be getting included to make it that cheap to step up to Pro.
This article is a few months old now but gives some figures on sales - http://www.motoringresearch.com/news/like-hot-cakes-nearly-1-4-vw-golf-buyers-choose-hot-hatch-0707945727
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Mr Savage:
The Golf R lease deals were not 50p ones. That is an exaggeration. They did cost a few hundred pounds a month. IMO the car is not worth more than that and the GTI/GTD prices should also be reduced accordingly and considerably as they seem overpriced to me.
Anyway, I feel extremely happy and very fortunate to have jumped onto a 3 year very cheap lease bandwagon directly from my local VW Dealership. Felt euphoric and a bit like a lottery win! At the time it seemed too good to be true and it still does.
Obviously the "50p lease deals" comment was strictly metaphoric to emphasise a point that the R's were priced to cheap and they were.
The R should never cost less a month than the GTI in any shape or form. That's the point of the whole structure of the VW Golf. Golf > GTD > GTI > R. If they are marketed and branded in that order they should also have monthly costs in that order.
It would be like a director being payed more than the chief executive of the same company. It doesn't make any logical sense. My local dealer said they had to stop the lease deals on the R early because as they said in their own words "it was getting ridiculous".
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The poor sales of the mk6 R gave a bit of doubt as to whether VW were even going to launch the R according to vw early in the mk7's life.
So I guess they thought they'd throw a load of cheap leases out to generate sales (no doubt being aware they'd stay in vw finance's clutches as mk6 R's were sought after in dealerships and fetched good prices second hand giving VW at least another bite of the sales cherry per unit sold.
What they weren't expecting was the fact the cheap deals would quickly go viral on the Internet.
Win win for both VW and the lucky early 50p lease adopters but it was never going to last.
I'll be the first to raise a glass to those that got in on the cheap deals, it's not often you get an offer like that from VW!!!
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GTD is available to lease at 120 a month plus VAT at the moment - that's a lot cheaper than the R deals.....
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'Packs' added to the official price list now - no change to those discussed....
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-vii/which-model/brochures
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GTD is available to lease at 120 a month plus VAT at the moment - that's a lot cheaper than the R deals.....
Like the one below from CVL with a thumping huge deposit. Looks cheap but it is not.
£129.99+VAT pcm with a £2000+VAT Deposit, 5k miles, 15.39+23, plus a Doc Fee of £150+VAT. With the latter added, it then works out as 16.54+23.
Nice way of fishing in a customer!
http://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/57649/volkswagen/golf/20_tdi_gtd_5dr.html
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'Packs' added to the official price list now - no change to those discussed....
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/User/My%20Documents/Downloads/e-golf-vii-pricelist.pdf
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Not a link :huh:
Now I'm being 'officially' ripped off with my Tech pack :laugh:
Parking pack Pages 28-29
Tech pack Pages 30-31
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/pricelists/e-golf-vii-pricelist.pdf
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GTD is available to lease at 120 a month plus VAT at the moment - that's a lot cheaper than the R deals.....
Like the one below from CVL with a thumping huge deposit. Looks cheap but it is not.
£129.99+VAT pcm with a £2000+VAT Deposit, 5k miles, 15.39+23, plus a Doc Fee of £150+VAT. With the latter added, it then works out as 16.54+23.
Nice way of fishing in a customer!
http://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/57649/volkswagen/golf/20_tdi_gtd_5dr.html
It was £119.99+VAT up until recently but they've had a slight price increase this quarter. Its still the cheapest way into a GTD as PCP costs more, and if you bought outright then traded in after 2 years you'd struggle to achieve the same total cost of ownership.
'Packs' added to the official price list now - no change to those discussed....
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/User/My%20Documents/Downloads/e-golf-vii-pricelist.pdf
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Not a link :huh:
Now I'm being 'officially' ripped off with my Tech pack :laugh:
Parking pack Pages 28-29
Tech pack Pages 30-31
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/pricelists/e-golf-vii-pricelist.pdf
Yep looks like its gone official
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Sorry about the dodgy link....
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-vii/which-model/brochures
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Looks cheap but it is not.
It has gone up a little in the last week - but at 257.00 (inc VAT) average monthly cost over the length of the deal I disagree - thats cheap for a brand new 5-door GTD!
look at in another way - if you bought the same outright car with cash - would you expect it to lose less than 6,168 in depreciation in the first two years?
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look at in another way - if you bought the same outright car with cash - would you expect it to lose less than 6,168 in depreciation in the first two years?
You could just about do that, as long as you got 12% off it in the first place. £23500 for a 5 door manual GTD > £17500 p/x at 2 years old, or perhaps £19k private sale (if you have the patience, dealerships will be putting them out at around £21k). There's nowt in it though, and you could've been earning money on that cash you put down by leaving it in the bank (but you'd have only lost £4500 over 2 years in the private sale.
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Looking at the new brochure there is an icon illustration on page 16 (the 'Tech Pack' page) which says that the 'sum of individual items' on the R is 1,840.00 and on the GT/R-Line/Match/GTI and GTD is 1,240.00.
This is of course a mistake as they have not allowed for the fact that basic navigation is standard only on GT and R-Line - thus proving the pricing of these Packs is indeed an error....
I wonder if they will correct it.
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Looking at the new brochure there is an icon illustration on page 16 (the 'Tech Pack' page) which says that the 'sum of individual items' on the R is 1,840.00 and on the GT/R-Line/Match/GTI and GTD is 1,240.00.
This is of course a mistake as they have not allowed for the fact that basic navigation is standard only on GT and R-Line - thus proving the pricing of these Packs is indeed an error....
I wonder if they will correct it.
Trouble is the unititiated won't have a clue!
If you went through it with a fine tooth comb, it's probably littered with mistakes, it is a VW publication after all. Fortunately I can think of better things to do with my time.
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Not really - its very obvious as the icons on p.16 are pretty big and anyone can see that sat-nav is only standard on GT, R-Line etc. If they had not made the point in the brochure of adding up the individual costs the error would not be apparent and would continue to look like a stealth tax on the R - which clearly it is not....
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Volkswagen MIB II Infotainment System First Impressions Review
http://cars.reviewed.com/content/volkswagen-mib-ii-infotainment-system-first-impressions-review
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One thing that strikes me with all this Mirrorlink stuff, is won't a Mirrorlink enabled MIB system cannibalize sales of their top end Navigation systems ?
After all, If i could have got the Co-Pilot Nav program on my Iphone up on screen on a standard non navi system (which is much better than the built in Navigation program), then I probably wouldn't have specified Navigation at all in the car and saved myself over £1700 !
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They will be restricting the apps it can mirror! :wink:
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They will be restricting the apps it can mirror! :wink:
Yes they must protect their interests :wink:
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They will be restricting the apps it can mirror! :wink:
Actually, its not a VW thing, its a industry consortium thing and the applications that are "drive certified" have to be tested to make sure that they are not distracting:
http://www.mirrorlink.com/sites/default/files/MirrorLink_2pgBrochure_0.pdf
So maybe a nav app can become certified, but your netflix app will never be allowed to be used in motion.
The system certainly does not work with just any old app, for safety reasons.
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Also, you might want to review if your phone is compatible...
https://cert.mirrorlink.com/ProductListing/
Try typing Apple into that search box...
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Oh and VW MIB2 is made by the Ching-Pong-Wong company:
https://cert.mirrorlink.com/ProductListing/?MLID=CL140291
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Well certainly for Apple CarPlay you can definitely 'mirror' and control the built in Maps application. Quite a few videos on YouTube showing this, and yes it would offer similar functionality to factory Nav at a fraction of the cost!
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I find it hard to envision a situation where VW allow you to link a smart phone for 100 quid giving you full sat-nav capability - while trying to sell sat nav at a 700, 1200, 1800 etc quid option..... but maybe I am just cynical... :whistle:
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.... but maybe I am just cynical... :whistle:
If you are, you are not alone :wink:
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Like I said, it's not Vw 's decision
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They will likely find a way to make it their decision. …
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You can do it on skoda cars with mib2 so no reason why you can't on a vw nav unit.
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Any idea if us with the poverty spec nav would be able to plug something into our DNS to enable mirror link or is it likely to be a whole new unit jobbie?
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I don't think anything will retro fit from mib2 to mib1 units.
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New hardware, so unless VW make the spares available for upgrades (which seems unlikely given their track record on such matters) then no.
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As I suspected, no mirror link for us then :( Cheers lads.
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Tech Pack for the R Estate is £1240 but it is £1840 for the R Hatchback!
Now how crazy is that?
Also, there is no DSG Option showing on the Configurator for the R Estate.
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Tech Pack for R Estate is £1240 but it is £1840 for the R Hatchback!
Now how crazy is that?
Also, there is no DSG Option showing on the Configurator for the R Estate.
WHAT!! :shocked: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
You've just ruined my evening :cry: :laugh:
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Tech Pack for the R Estate is £1240 but it is £1840 for the R Hatchback!
Now how crazy is that?
Also, there is no DSG Option showing on the Configurator for the R Estate.
WHAT!! :shocked: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
You've just ruined my evening :cry: :laugh:
It is obvious that VW UK don't know their arse from their elbow.
Wonky cars, wonky configurator, wonky-ed customers!
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It is obvious that VW UK don't know their arse from their elbow.
Wonky cars, wonky configurator, wonky-ed customers!
What are you trying to say? :laugh:
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It is obvious that VW UK don't know their arse from their elbow.
Wonky cars, wonky configurator, wonky-ed customers!
What are you trying to say? :laugh:
Well contrary to dear monkeyhanger's protestations, the 3 GTIs and 2 Rs I have seen are wonky in build, the UK VW Configurator is definitely wonky with its weird price structure for the Tech Packs and as we buy these cars, we can be classified as wonky customers. :laugh:
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Well contrary to dear monkeyhanger's protestations, the 3 GTIs and 2 Rs I have seen are wonky in build, the UK VW Configurator is definitely wonky with its weird price structure for the Tech Packs and as we buy these cars, we can be classified as wonky customers. :laugh:
Fair point, no point in denying the obvious :laugh:
Weird price structure, that's putting it politely :rolleyes:
I like to think I'm a little more laid back about these things, but I may be deluded. Anyway, you'll be the first to know if my R is wonky :kiss:
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Well contrary to dear monkeyhanger's protestations, the 3 GTIs and 2 Rs I have seen are wonky in build, the UK VW Configurator is definitely wonky with its weird price structure for the Tech Packs and as we buy these cars, we can be classified as wonky customers. :laugh:
Fair point, no point in denying the obvious :laugh:
Weird price structure, that's putting it politely :rolleyes:
I like to think I'm a little more laid back about these things, but I may be deluded. Anyway, you'll be the first to know if my R is wonky :kiss:
I hope your R is not wonky. They will have to answer to me! Your total satisfaction is my mantra.
I will at some stage de-wonkify my R. I am good friends with the owners of a hypercar bodyshop. That should do the trick.
As long as my R goes from A to B whilst giving me some pleasure and without breaking down, I will be most satisfied.
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Tech Pack for the R Estate is £1240 but it is £1840 for the R Hatchback!
Now how crazy is that?
Also, there is no DSG Option showing on the Configurator for the R Estate.
Have you seen the GFVs for the estate R? Scary! On PCP terms, the estate is £200pm more than the hatchback because of it - 30% retained at 36 months.
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Tech Pack for the R Estate is £1240 but it is £1840 for the R Hatchback!
Now how crazy is that?
Also, there is no DSG Option showing on the Configurator for the R Estate.
Have you seen the GFVs for the estate R? Scary! On PCP terms, the estate is £200pm more than the hatchback because of it - 30% retained at 36 months.
I did actually, as you brought my attention to this on the other forum. Scary and crazy, I must admit.
Why would one want to get a total minger like the R Estate and not a BMW 335d xDrive M Sport or any other 3 Series BMW hearse with their customary 25% discounts? The BMW is so much better looking. Amazing cars IMO.
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Why would one want to get a total minger like the R Estate...
Quite!
.... the R estate is an abomination to a purist like me
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Why would one want to get a total minger like the R Estate...
Quite!
.... the R estate is an abomination to a purist like me
There is not a single vile word I can think of that can do it justice. The kindest thing one can call it is a hearse with an emphasis on the last four letters. :sick:
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I wouldn't call it a minger (as estates go), but with VW's complete lack of confidence in residuals for the model, £653 a month in standard 36 month PCP terms makes it one seriously expensive car, you could lease a Porsche Cayenne Estate (due in Aug) for about that monthly outlay! £653 a month buys you a hell of a lot more car than an R estate if you shop around.
Even the Beetle (GFV = 35% of RRP) holds value much better than the R estate.
The Audi S4 Avant (with metallic paint but no other extras) comes in at a "much more reasonable" £510pm on the same PCP terms. What are VW playing at setting up the finances for a car that will see you weighing over 80% of the car's RRP (between depreciation and interest) in 3 years?
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Seriously, just 30% GFV???? :shocked:
I'd imagine the GTD variant would have a higher % GFV surely?
I'm genuinely shocked at the R estate GFV.
On a different note, and wildly off topic (sorry James) but Asker, is that a normally acceptable discount off a BMW and easy to obtain? I had a chance conversation with a BMW salesman the other day (I was nowhere near a car dealer btw, just an off the cuff conversation) and he said they had a pre- reg M135i in at a 'significant' discount. I didn't discuss it any further than that so have no idea about extras or gearbox or even colour but it did send a little smile to my lips as I brought back my memory of a hired M135i I had a goon which was the first car since a Lupo GTI I borrowed for an evening many many years ago that genuinely made me laugh as I drove it.
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Seriously, just 30% GFV???? :shocked:
I'd imagine the GTD variant would have a higher % GFV surely?
I'm genuinely shocked at the R estate GFV.
Looking at all the estates, the £21230 1.4 122ps SE has the best GFV of the bunch at 46% of RRP, and £425 more than the R that has an RRP of £11910 more. The mid to high range estates have abysmal GFVs, New Peugeot 308SW on "passport" terms have a far better GFV %.
You'd have to be crazy to be looking to an R estate on those terms.
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On a different note, and wildly off topic (sorry James) but Asker, is that a normally acceptable discount off a BMW and easy to obtain?
When we bought our two BMW 330d M Sports in 2012, we negotiated a 25.5% discount on each of them.
Great BMW deals are usually available around Aug/Sept for Nov/Dec delivery. Generally 20%-25% is achievable.
The main thing is to spec your car and get it priced by one of the Brokers: Car Cow, Drive the Deal, Orange Wheels etc. Armed with this discounted price, go to the BMW Dealer and ask them to match it. They usually do.
M135i is a terrific car with a creamy 3 litre 6 cyl turbo. The 8sp ZF Auto is a star.
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Thanks Asker. :kiss:
However I just don't like auto boxes, I've had a few hired BMW's with the 8 speed and it just gets on my nerves changing gear every few seconds. I'll wait until we're all driving electric cars before I sell my soul to the DSG option (which probably won't even be an option by then). With Park Assist, The funny radar speed control thingy our Golfs have, DSG and high beam assist, lane assist and all that - we're only one step away from being complete passengers. I like to drive not just take my car for a 'bit of a steer' and will change gear when I want to not when a computer that can't see the bend ahead decides it might be a good idea as it might save me a smidgen of fuel.
Or put another way, I'm thick as pig poop and also too tight to pay extra for what I consider an unnecessary luxury that adds weight to the car, and more so that I drive about half a dozen vehicles in a week and I'd only get confused as all the others are manuals and I have enough trouble remembering which ones have a handbrake and which ones don't. So I'm forever driving a normal vehicle and prodding the brake pedal at traffic lights to put the electric handbrake on which just causes the car to lurch to a nosedive and then start rolling off again and in my Golf I'm forever fishing for a handbrake that's not there...
Hurry up VW and bring out a 1.0 turbo UP! so I can get one which would take care of 99% of my motoring needs for not too much money then I can hire something bigger on the odd occasion I need to.
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Andy, I see where you are coming from.
Must admit I miss the regular handbrake which BMWs still have. But for how long will they provide this, I wonder?
Cars are being bought increasingly for the tech they provide and less and less for how they drive. With the advent of digital technology all that was dear and tactile with analogue was consigned to the dust bin of history rather rapidly. People find it difficult nowadays to read a map or find their way without the help of a sat nav.
How did the world function in the past without all these aids? It did and pretty well too. However, I am one of those who has embraced, in moderation, the new technology so long as it does not turn me into a modern day zombie.
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I heard a similar thing re the BMWs but never had a conversation with anyone about it. May do soon to see what's on offer.
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I heard a similar thing re the BMWs but never had a conversation with anyone about it. May do soon to see what's on offer.
BMW is a great marque and the depth of engineering is very impressive. Some of the designs can be a bit challenging aesthetically and their manual gearboxes are pants. Their RRP might seem a bit high, but so are the discounts one can negotiate which makes them cheaper than some non-premium marques.
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I heard a similar thing re the BMWs but never had a conversation with anyone about it. May do soon to see what's on offer.
BMW is a great marque and the depth of engineering is very impressive. Some of the designs can be a bit challenging aesthetically and their manual gearboxes are pants. Their RRP might seem a bit high, but so are the discounts one can negotiate which makes them cheaper than some non-premium marques.
The Law Firm I work for the CEO has a fully loaded 530d absolute comfort. Much better than the equivalent Audi and Merc.
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Andy, I see where you are coming from.
Must admit I miss the regular handbrake which BMWs still have. But for how long will they provide this, I wonder?
Cars are being bought increasingly for the tech they provide and less and less for how they drive. With the advent of digital technology all that was dear and tactile with analogue was consigned to the dust bin of history rather rapidly. People find it difficult nowadays to read a map or find their way without the help of a sat nav.
How did the world function in the past without all these aids? It did and pretty well too. However, I am one of those who has embraced, in moderation, the new technology so long as it does not turn me into a modern day zombie.
Like you Asker, I find the technology fascinating and there are some huge advances in efficiency and safety that none of us would wish to be without but I do like to actually drive still.
In another generation of car or two when the engines have become so digitised then DSG or continuously variable transmissions will be our only choice for our go-faster milk floats...
Then I'll be ready.
And will probably just get a bus pass... (single decker buses only though, I don't want an Asker moment)
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I heard a similar thing re the BMWs but never had a conversation with anyone about it. May do soon to see what's on offer.
Coast2coast cars (broker) seem to be offering the best BMW discounts right now - you'll get 24.5% off the higher echelons of the 3 and 5 series like 330D/335D X-drive/535D etc, the 4 series doesn't get nearly as big a discount.
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Andy, I see where you are coming from.
Must admit I miss the regular handbrake which BMWs still have. But for how long will they provide this, I wonder?
Cars are being bought increasingly for the tech they provide and less and less for how they drive. With the advent of digital technology all that was dear and tactile with analogue was consigned to the dust bin of history rather rapidly. People find it difficult nowadays to read a map or find their way without the help of a sat nav.
How did the world function in the past without all these aids? It did and pretty well too. However, I am one of those who has embraced, in moderation, the new technology so long as it does not turn me into a modern day zombie.
Like you Asker, I find the technology fascinating and there are some huge advances in efficiency and safety that none of us would wish to be without but I do like to actually drive still.
In another generation of car or two when the engines have become so digitised then DSG or continuously variable transmissions will be our only choice for our go-faster milk floats...
Then I'll be ready.
And will probably just get a bus pass... (single decker buses only though, I don't want an Asker moment)
Love the ACC for the warning system, for that 1 in 100 time it alerts you quicker than you would have realised yourself, it could genuinely save a close call or actual bump. Electronic handbrake? Could happily live without it, the let-off when you pull away can sometimes be a little harsh, like its gripped a little too much. Never had excessive grab on the Scirocco which had the Ye-olde handle/lever plus the hill hold that let go after 2 seconds. My drive is on quite a gradient and very narrow between the pillars - we're talking 2 inches clearance either side of fully deployed wing mirrors. With that set-up, I want to crawl out of the drive between the pillars with use of a manual handbrake rather than go at a speed the auto-handbrake dictates.
Really like the variable steering too - I really missed that when I had the Skoda Superb courtesy car.
DSG is a step too far for me, really just steering the car and little else, if I lived in or commuted through a busy city centre I might feel differently though.
Very rarely park on the drive now - mainly when i'm giving the car the full G-techniq works and need to give it some shelter while doing so.
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And will probably just get a bus pass... (single decker buses only though, I don't want an Asker moment)
Will I ever forget that fateful day in Jan a 4 years ago when I ripped my shoulder protecting my grandchild and tumbled down the stairs of a double decker which had to make an emergency stop in order not to run over a rather large American tourist on Westminster Bridge.
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I heard a similar thing re the BMWs but never had a conversation with anyone about it. May do soon to see what's on offer.
Coast2coast cars (broker) seem to be offering the best BMW discounts right now - you'll get 24.5% off the higher echelons of the 3 and 5 series like 330D/335D X-drive/535D etc, the 4 series doesn't get nearly as big a discount.
Yep, Coast2Coast and go to Berry Heathrow and speak to Tony Lewis.
Or,
Riaz who works at a BMW Dealership in Herts. Forum name RiazC on Bimmerpost UK Forum.
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the let-off when you pull away can sometimes be a little harsh, like its gripped a little too much. Never had excessive grab on the Scirocco which had the Ye-olde handle/lever plus the hill hold that let go after 2 seconds. My drive is on quite a gradient and very narrow between the pillars - we're talking 2 inches clearance either side of fully deployed wing mirrors. With that set-up, I want to crawl out of the drive between the pillars with use of a manual handbrake rather than go at a speed the auto-handbrake dictates.
Not sure that's the norm Matt.
Mine is really gentle at take off. The only time I've felt it grab slightly is when I hadn't driven it for a few days but I reckon that was more the rust than the handbrake at fault.
I've only driven one other Mk7 and it was exactly the same.
I know its not ideal but you could release the handbrake manually when pulling away from your drive so in effect you wouldn't be doing any more than if it was a manual one.
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Hi, I have resently ordered a Gti and have given a build week of 22. I have already got the extra VW contribution and lower APR. My extras include Dis Nav and Dynaudio. I have just emailed the dealer to tell them I want the Tech Pack instead, as it is cheaper and presumably an upgrade on the head unit. Should they be able to do this and if not should I ask for some money off.
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Hi, I have resently ordered a Gti and have given a build week of 22. I have already got the extra VW contribution and lower APR. My extras include Dis Nav and Dynaudio. I have just emailed the dealer to tell them I want the Tech Pack instead, as it is cheaper and presumably an upgrade on the head unit. Should they be able to do this and if not should I ask for some money off.
Assuming your build week is unconfirmed, then you should be able to add the Tech pack (£1240) in lieu of the individually specced Dynaudio and DNS. The pack will give you Dynaudio and DNS Pro which is the upgraded nav with 8" screen. I just added the Tech pack to my R order last week (BW24) and that has been accepted by the factory.
Additionally cars built in BW22 or after will get the the MY 2016 changes which is Gen 2 DNS Pro which has higher res screen (still 8").
Hopefully your dealer should hopefully be able to confirm all this.
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Is the only difference higher def screen, as if your not watching movies I'm not sure if I'm too bothered. I have a 2012 Rocco at the moment and the sat Nav screen on that is fine.
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Is the only difference higher def screen, as if your not watching movies I'm not sure if I'm too bothered. I have a 2012 Rocco at the moment and the sat Nav screen on that is fine.
I've edited my original post as just remembered that on the GTI the Tech pack is cheaper then the two specced separately (it's dearer on the R) and so you might as well have the Tech Pack as you'll be paying £45 quid less and getting DNS Pro.
DNS Pro has other things above the DNS, such as integrated voice control, 3D maps, DVD, SSD hard drive etc.
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Ok thanks. I presume the pro also has DAB
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Ok thanks. I presume the pro also has DAB
Yep, has DAB. Follow the link for what's included in DNS Pro
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/navigation-and-entertainment-systems/discover-nav-pro
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Thanks again
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Finally it seems there could possibly be an answer as to why the Tech Pack costs less on a GTI/D
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9563
The GTI/D looks like it might be getting the nav as standard BUT the list price is going up by nearly a grand.
So where the Edition 40 will sit in between the GTI and R if the prices between them are getting tighter and tighter is anyone's guess.
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Finally it seems there could possibly be an answer as to why the Tech Pack costs less on a GTI/D
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9563
The GTI/D looks like it might be getting the nav as standard BUT the list price is going up by nearly a grand.
So where the Edition 40 will sit in between the GTI and R if the prices between them are getting tighter and tighter is anyone's guess.
That would make sense, and brings it into line with the other models that have nav as standard and the pack at the lower price.
If that's the case then will the R Estate get nav as standard? Shows as extra on configurator, which of course may be wrong. Tech pack is at the lower price on the R Estate so if the others get nav as standard, surely the R Estate should too??
God knows quite how they are going to price the ED40?? As you say, if there is a £1k price hike, it will be a very slim price gap between the GTI/D and the R.
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Interesting. Does that mean some lucky people (not me) who ordered the GTI/D at the current prices could end up getting free Sat Nav if the build date is post BW22?
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Interesting. Does that mean some lucky people (not me) who ordered the GTI/D at the current prices could end up getting free Sat Nav if the build date is post BW22?
There could be some very happy 'soon to be' owners if so.
Seems a bit daft VW released the options before the price rise went live.
Let's see what happens, I'm sure those with cars on order will keep us posted.
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Interesting. Does that mean some lucky people (not me) who ordered the GTI/D at the current prices could end up getting free Sat Nav if the build date is post BW22?
There could be some very happy 'soon to be' owners if so.
Seems a bit daft VW released the options before the price rise went live.
Let's see what happens, I'm sure those with cars on order will keep us posted.
VW seem to be a company in disarray when it comes to prices, options and configurator.
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Seems a bit daft VW released the options before the price rise went live.
Understatement of the week. Let's hope VW's ineptitude is prospective new GTI/D owner's gain.
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Seems a bit daft VW released the options before the price rise went live.
Understatement of the week. Let's hope VW's ineptitude is prospective new GTI/D owner's gain.
VW or (more likely) VW UK, riding on the back of high £:E exchange rates and therefore raking it in. Makes no sense to up the GTI and GTD RRPs even closer to that of the R if basic nav is included on the GTI/GTD, makes the GTI seem an even worse proposition than it may already look on paper.
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If that's the case then will the R Estate get nav as standard?
The PDF download pricelist (which is where I got the info re the exta specs on the GTD Estate) says sat-nav is still an optional extra on the R Estate.
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If that's the case then will the R Estate get nav as standard?
The PDF download pricelist (which is where I got the info re the exta specs on the GTD Estate) says sat-nav is still an optional extra on the R Estate.
Yeah, that's what I thought and it's backed up on the configurator too. The Tech pack is still at £1240 for the R Estate so still prices all over the place and inconsistent. Can't say I'm surprised but it would've made more sense for the Tech pack price to be the same as the R.
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I have just read somewhere that the GTD estate comes with standard Nav, keyless and sound pack. That surely can't be right. Two of those were options I (along with others) paid nearly a grand for.
I am due to meet the dealer on sunday to see what we can work out on a GTI PP/R. Any news on an ED 40 as I may wait if one is forthcoming
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I have just read somewhere that the GTD estate comes with standard Nav, keyless and sound pack. That surely can't be right. Two of those were options I (along with others) paid nearly a grand for.
I am due to meet the dealer on sunday to see what we can work out on a GTI PP/R. Any news on an ED 40 as I may wait if one is forthcoming
See Exonian's post a few days ago. Looks like the GTI/D may be getting basic nav as standard soon, but with a price rise on the car. Doesn't look like the R will get it as standard though.
Finally it seems there could possibly be an answer as to why the Tech Pack costs less on a GTI/D
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9563
The GTI/D looks like it might be getting the nav as standard BUT the list price is going up by nearly a grand.
So where the Edition 40 will sit in between the GTI and R if the prices between them are getting tighter and tighter is anyone's guess.
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I have just read somewhere that the GTD estate comes with standard Nav, keyless and sound pack. That surely can't be right. Two of those were options I (along with others) paid nearly a grand for.
I posted that - its listed in the Golf Estate PDF brochure (the 'downloadable' document rather than the configurator) and has more than that - the GTD Estate is shown with the following standard features in addition to the hatch spec:
Winter Pack
Discover Navigation
Sport & Sound Pack
Keyless entry
Obviously there could be errors in this but the pricelists have tended to be a bit more reliable than the configurator.
Having said that the actual price of the car is still to be announced!
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Misterp and Mark V GTD - Sorry didn't realise you were talking about the estate version. Senior moment :whistle:
That's a lot included as standard, be interesting to see the price.
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It is - and it will! If I was getting one I would only need to add the rear camera and Dynauduio and you have a very high spec car!
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That's a very good spec on the GTD estate. Sport and Sound pack is an odd option and I'd have thought Park Assist would be more useful for something of that length (plus camera for those of us like me who swear by the thing).
Sport and Sound is more of a hot hatch extra so maybe they put it in to justify the Sportwagen moniker? VW UK are weird.
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Is it to attract ppl to it considering I find that it's ugly.
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Configurator update:
DNS now has 6..5" Screen
Keyless Entry standard on GTI/GTD but extra (£360) on the R.
Tech Pack £1240 for GTD/GTI and £1840 for R.
Deep Ocean Blue is a new colour but costs £0 and you just see the car chassis when colour is selected!
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Configurator update:
DNS now has 6..5" Screen
Keyless Entry standard on GTI but extra (£360) on GTD and R.
Tech Pack £1240 for GTD/GTI and £1840 for R.
Deep Ocean Blue is a new colour but costs £0 and you just see the car chassis when colour is selected!
So the configurator now showing everything we all knew weeks ago :whistle:
Glad it's finally caught up :grin:
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Just Got confirmed bw21 this morning is there any way to delay this at least a week? I am tempted to add sport and sound which will cost an extra £7 a month or 90% tinted glass because......
Sat Nav is now standard
Winter Pack is now standard
Keyless is now standard
If I am going to do this I need to do it at 8:30am tomorrow as I will be away for the day.
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Just Got confirmed bw21 this morning is there any way to delay this at least a week? I am tempted to add sport and sound which will cost an extra £7 a month or 90% tinted glass because......
Sat Nav is now standard
Winter Pack is now standard
Keyless is now standard
If I am going to do this I need to do it at 8:30am tomorrow as I will be away for the day.
That's very unlucky :sad:
I asked a similar question of my dealer. My build week is still unconfirmed BW24, but as these can move back and forth I asked if there was any way to ensure a post week 22 build.
Dealer phoned Volkswagen UK and asked if this was possible but was told they can't get the estimated build week pushed back or held. He asked for the 'required' date on the system to be put back to post week 22 and this has been done, BUT he isn't sure if the factory even look at this.
So not sure if they would be able to push back a confirmed build week but it's got to be worth asking?
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You would think that because it's a lease car from VW it would give the car a better future value. It's the fact that I have paid £360 for keyless that is now standard that is really annoying me. I would have went for the extra tint as well if it was an option at the time.
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Keyless is standard now? Haven't heard that one (assuming UK market?).
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It's on the configurator as standard and doesn't appear as an option anymore
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Configurator update:
DNS now has 6..5" Screen
Keyless Entry standard on GTI but extra (£360) on GTD and R.
Tech Pack £1240 for GTD/GTI and £1840 for R.
Deep Ocean Blue is a new colour but costs £0 and you just see the car chassis when colour is selected!
So the configurator now showing everything we all knew weeks ago :whistle:
Glad it's finally caught up :grin:
Did you know that Keyless Entry was standard on the GTI/GTD and a £360 option for the R? :kiss:
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It is standard on the GTD as well :angry: I am going to see if the dealer can get the 90% tint on my windows though I have them on my BMW and I am going to really miss them.
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It is standard on the GTD as well :angry: I am going to see if the dealer can get the 90% tint on my windows though I have them on my BMW and I am going to really miss them.
With those your car will look like a mini cab. :smiley:
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You did not know that Keyless Entry was standard on the GTI and a £360 option for GTD/R. :whistle:
Just testing you. 3 out of 4 ain't bad :wink:
You did not know that Keyless Entry was standard on the GTI and a £360 option for GTD/R. :whistle:
It is standard on the GTD as well
Not quite up to speed yourself :whistle:
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It's the fact that I have paid £360 for keyless that is now standard that is really annoying me.
Don't forget - the price is going up too!
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It's the fact that I have paid £360 for keyless that is now standard that is really annoying me.
Don't forget - the price is going up too!
Good point.
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With those your car will look like a mini cab. :smiley:
I am going for the drug dealer look :evil:
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Did you know that Keyless Entry was standard on the GTI/GTD and a £360 option for the R? :kiss:
Editing your original post = instant disqualification for cheating :tongue: :kiss:
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I am going for the drug dealer look :evil:
^^
That only works on a black car. Carbon grey is too classy for drug dealer look even with 90% tints.
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Ok anything that will make me look dodgy to the police :grin:
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Its such BS and VW UK really don't seem to know what they are doing. So much inconsistency on the website at the moment.
Price is actually lower as if you take the old price then add DNS (£750), KESSY (£360) and Winter Pack (£360) you get £27,485 compared to the £26,935 a 3dr Manual GTD will now cost you
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And it is ridiculous they aren't applying those changes to the R, no logic at all.
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And it is ridiculous they aren't applying those changes to the R, no logic at all.
It's getting a bit of a mess.
The actual components of the bits they're adding don't cost VW much in ££ terms so it's easy to add them then hike up the price a bit taking full advantage of the exchange rate.
My theory is that after the mk6 R being a bit of a duffer sales wise (also had crap standard spec) the mk7R has become the default performance choice after the cheap leases and rave reviews meaning lots of private buyers too, so is a) selling well and b) not that much dearer than a PP GTI.
What I suspect VW are doing is waiting for the ED40 or other performance niche car to come along to slot in the middle, then they can add extra spec to the R and hike the price up a bit to clear a bit of room in the price list for either a more powerful GTI or one with a few lightweight panels which it will share with the R400/420 costing maybe another £1200 or 1500 over a PP GTI.
They probably also look at the fact that people that lease R's just want a fast Golf and don't bother with options and people that can afford to buy a £30K plus hatchback can afford to spec it up and probably do quite a bit so the actual financial hit to them doesn't hurt much and VW can keep the list base price at a point where the R doesn't look too expensive against competitors.
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Mind you, as it's started raining I've abandoned car cleaning for another year :whistle: and just had a nose around the VW Configurator to see what's been added to the other more 'interesting' VW models.
As of about five minutes ago the Scirocco could be ordered with electric folding wing mirrors for the huge sum of...
... five pounds. :whistle:
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Interesting reading this thread as I am going in to VW Birmingham tomorrow to test drive a pp gti.
I don't want to order one of there is an ed40 on the way as I would love one of them instead. With all the changes means an inevitable rise. When does the price hike start. As I may look at the numbers for the pp and the R tonight.
Spec would be carbon grey leathers keyless tech pack and parking pack
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Interesting reading this thread as I am going in to VW Birmingham tomorrow to test drive a pp gti.
I don't want to order one of there is an ed40 on the way as I would love one of them instead.
We won't see the ed40 until late 2016 at the earliest :smiley:
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The price rise goes live from midnight Sunday so if you can secure a deal at Sunday's retail price you may well get a bunch of freebies!
As Beddie says, late next year for ED40. I oredered my GTI with that in mind hoping the ED would be released when my GTI hits three years old (by far the longest I've kept a car I think, not including cheapo bangers I run about in which I keep until they fall apart).
I think we will see hints of an ED40 disguised as something else at Worthersee this year and next year before it gets released at a motor show proper in 2016.
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And it is ridiculous they aren't applying those changes to the R, no logic at all.
My theory is that after the mk6 R being a bit of a duffer sales wise (also had crap standard spec) the mk7R has become the default performance choice after the cheap leases and rave reviews meaning lots of private buyers too, so is a) selling well and b) not that much dearer than a PP GTI.
What I suspect VW are doing is waiting for the ED40 or other performance niche car to come along to slot in the middle, then they can add extra spec to the R and hike the price up a bit to clear a bit of room in the price list for either a more powerful GTI or one with a few lightweight panels which it will share with the R400/420 costing maybe another £1200 or 1500 over a PP GTI.
They probably also look at the fact that people that lease R's just want a fast Golf and don't bother with options and people that can afford to buy a £30K plus hatchback can afford to spec it up and probably do quite a bit so the actual financial hit to them doesn't hurt much and VW can keep the list base price at a point where the R doesn't look too expensive against competitors.
This would seem to make some sense. As it stands it's a very narrow pricing gap between the GTI and the R, for the ED40 to slot into. That said, to an extent VW are just making it all up as they go along in response to market forces.
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My current gtd deal ends next sept.
What is the price increase coincidentally. I was on coast2coast brokers site they had the leathers with an electric as an option (2700 option mind :sick: )
I'm torn between tr and carbon grey.
Mrs thinks I'm only test driving I hope I can restrain myself and not order to secure the price. With the dealership contribution it equates to 16% discount if I use the brokers.
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Price increase in a GTI?
It looks to be £940 or something, but gen 2 nav, keyless and poss winter pack now standard.
If you order VERY quick you might get the extras but beat the price rise. I'd almost be tempted to do that myself just to 'get one over' on VW but no doubt they'd pull a trick to get the rug out from under my feet!!!
It might be worth running the GTD another year and seeing what deals are about as the Golf will have been around quite a while then so will have to have deals running to keep up with newer competitors.
Tech is moving so fast it's anyone's guess what will be available by next summer.
Mind you, there are really good GTI deals to be had right now. There's no right and wrong answer, it's what suits you.
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Thanks exonian.
Let's see how it goes. I'm still torn between colours too.
I may end up leaving it until Xmas time. Let's see what the stealer says today. Off to see what my car is worth.
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TR looks good on a mk7 but best on a GTD in my opinion as you lose the red GTI trim bits a little. Red looks fantastic when it's really polished up.
Carbon Grey looks classy but is dark so will be a pain to look after depending on what use the car gets and your cleaning regime.
Toss a coin!
My personal view is mk7's look the best in light colours to show off the angles and lines especially under street lighting or good sunlight.
White looks really good on GTI's but it's becoming a bit ubiquitous and will no doubt go out of fashion sooner or later.
If I was ordering right now I'd take the plunge on Tungsten I reckon, just to be a bit different. Or if I lost my nerve then silver, but at the end of the day the GTI looks good in all colours but doesn't look great in any colour (maybe Oryx?) as they're all a bit 'dull'.
At the end of the mk2's life and half way through the mk3 they brought in some quite good colours for the GTI so fingers crossed VW UK suddenly feel brave, but I have a feeling they won't.
I dropped a workmate off at a local VW specialist on Friday afternoon as he was having some work done on his R32 (over rated car) and there was a bright blue mk2 GTI (with full engine conversion) which looked fantastic. I love that colour on a GTI and also the Jade Green they did briefly in 1991. Showing my age now so I'll just shut up...
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TR looks good on a mk7 but best on a GTD in my opinion as you lose the red GTI trim bits a little. Red looks fantastic when it's really polished up.
Carbon Grey looks classy but is dark so will be a pain to look after depending on what use the car gets and your cleaning regime.
Toss a coin!
My personal view is mk7's look the best in light colours to show off the angles and lines especially under street lighting or good sunlight.
White looks really good on GTI's but it's becoming a bit ubiquitous and will no doubt go out of fashion sooner or later.
If I was ordering right now I'd take the plunge on Tungsten I reckon, just to be a bit different. Or if I lost my nerve then silver, but at the end of the day the GTI looks good in all colours but doesn't look great in any colour (maybe Oryx?) as they're all a bit 'dull'.
At the end of the mk2's life and half way through the mk3 they brought in some quite good colours for the GTI so fingers crossed VW UK suddenly feel brave, but I have a feeling they won't.
I dropped a workmate off at a local VW specialist on Friday afternoon as he was having some work done on his R32 (over rated car) and there was a bright blue mk2 GTI (with full engine conversion) which looked fantastic. I love that colour on a GTI and also the Jade Green they did briefly in 1991. Showing my age now so I'll just shut up...
Thought about limestone grey and tungsten silver too.
I remember the Helios Blue mark 2. I also had the colour concept mark 3 in jazz blue and the mint green.
VW haven't been adventurous with the colours since the mark 3 colour concept.
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Serious question, is the tech pack worth it now considering that standard Nav is free with a slightly bigger screen. I was never that big on the dynaaudio anyway.
I'm torn by it as I don't think I would use the hard drive to its full capability.
Decisions decisions decisions. :undecided:
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Perhaps a better combo would be the free nav (with larger screen) and paying for Dynaudio - you then get the best of all worlds for less money then the old optional sat-nav with a smaller screen!
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I better combo would be the free nav (with larger screen) and paying for Dynaudio - you then get the best of all worlds for less money then the old optional sat-nav with a smaller screen!
Exactly what I was thinking of doing. Great minds and all that.
I do like the bigger screen mind.
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If I could land the car at pre-increase price I think I'd plump for the tech pack.
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If I could land the car at pre-increase price I think I'd plump for the tech pack.
That's what I though price to change wasn't attractive for me not desperate to change still enjoy my GTD so I will leave it for 6 months
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What did you think of the GTI after test driving it Misterp?
(Obviously not fallen in love with it enough to do a deal today! :grin: )
Wait until you see a car with the new nav screen and see whether you still think the tech pack is worth it further down the line closer to ordering or wait 12 months to see if an ED40 appears
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What did you think of the GTI after test driving it Misterp?
(Obviously not fallen in love with it enough to do a deal today! :grin: )
Wait until you see a car with the new nav screen and see whether you still think the tech pack is worth it further down the line closer to ordering or wait 12 months to see if an ED40 appears
I really enjoyed it. The 19s don't tickle my fancy. With the roads the way they are in birmingham the 19s make it abit 'bumpy'. The auto seems a bit..... Eh if you follow my drift. I may have to go back to a manual if I really want to enjoy it but Im lazy now having had a day box for the last 5 years.
Otherwise solid what I expected. I really enjoyed it but like you say not that much to want to make the jump. The m135 I drove was a blast but a bit too twitchy for me to be a daily driver.
I will wait until the new screen goes in. The increase in price takes into account two options I would have specced anyway so it's not really a change but I am curious to see if there will be a ED 40.
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What did you think of the GTI after test driving it Misterp?
(Obviously not fallen in love with it enough to do a deal today! :grin: )
Wait until you see a car with the new nav screen and see whether you still think the tech pack is worth it further down the line closer to ordering or wait 12 months to see if an ED40 appears
I really enjoyed it. The 19s don't tickle my fancy. With the roads the way they are in birmingham the 19s make it abit 'bumpy'. The auto seems a bit..... Eh if you follow my drift. I may have to go back to a manual if I really want to enjoy it but Im lazy now having had a day box for the last 5 years.
Otherwise solid what I expected. I really enjoyed it but like you say not that much to want to make the jump. The m135 I drove was a blast but a bit too twitchy for me to be a daily driver.
I will wait until the new screen goes in. The increase in price takes into account two options I would have specced anyway so it's not really a change but I am curious to see if there will be a ED 40.
The M135i sure is a massive hoot to drive and I'm surprised in this day and age a German car company is brave enough to market something that raw. It's not dangerous to an inexperienced driver like an old 911 but it sure is tail happy! Huge fun. I'd be tempted with one for sure.
The PP GTI isn't massively faster than a GTD just a bit more eager and revvy and on some days you'd prefer one car and on other days you'd prefer the other. Depending on what you were doing and where you were driving would make one preferable to the other.
It's funny you're considering a GTI as I've often wondered whether the GTD would have been of more use to me over the last year and a half and in standard form I much preferred the GTD mk6 to the GTI which might sound odd as I owned two mk6 GTIs!!!
I honestly thought it would be the VAQ diff that would make me really appreciate the choice of PP GTI over GTD this time round but in fact it's the bigger front brakes that make the real difference I notice day to day. Having owned mk5 and two mk6 GTIs with the 312mm front brakes they're fine 99% of the time but every so often you really feel you could do with the 340's when you need to shed speed quickly after someone does something stupid in front of you or a bend comes up a bit quicker than you thought...
I'm not a DSG fan so can't comment on the gearboxes. I love the technology behind DSG but just not how it second guesses you and either changes up too quickly or holds revs too long. I think it's ideal for lazy drivers or those that do trackdays but not for incompetent people like me!!! :grin: :grin:
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I'm not a DSG fan so can't comment on the gearboxes. I love the technology behind DSG but just not how it second guesses you and either changes up too quickly or holds revs too long. I think it's ideal for lazy drivers or those that do trackdays but not for incompetent people like me!!! :grin: :grin:
Don't start, Mr Ex! Don't want to be upsetting us bone idle, good for nothing DSG drivers :tongue: :grin:
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I'm not a DSG fan so can't comment on the gearboxes. I love the technology behind DSG but just not how it second guesses you and either changes up too quickly or holds revs too long. I think it's ideal for lazy drivers or those that do trackdays but not for incompetent people like me!!! :grin: :grin:
Don't start, Mr Ex! Don't want to be upsetting us bone idle, good for nothing DSG drivers :tongue: :grin:
You're a princess though so don't want to damage your lovely nails on something as demeaning as a gear stick when hurriedly changing gear... :kiss: :laugh:
I was just saying DSG is not for me (yet) and therefore not commenting (then sticking in a comment for good measure, as one does) :whistle:
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You're a princess though so don't want to damage your lovely nails on something as demeaning as a gear stick when hurriedly changing gear... :kiss: :laugh:
I was just saying DSG is not for me (yet) and therefore not commenting (then sticking in a comment for good measure, as one does) :whistle:
Oh you make me laugh, if only it were true :laugh: :kiss: I'm sorry to disappoint you, but compulsive car detailing (Zzzzz wake up!) and fancy nails do not go together, and so sadly my nails are in need of some TLC, perhaps a visit to a nail bar beckons.
I actually agree with some of your observations on DSG, i.e, changing up too quickly in Drive or holding onto the revs too long in Sport. Quite why they can't hit a happy meduim somewhere between the two is beyond me but, c'est la vie :rolleyes:
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A nail bar?
You just need a rotary polisher, some touch up pen and a bit of wet and dry paper...
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A nail bar?
You just need a rotary polisher, some touch up pen and a bit of wet and dry paper...
Hi Andy your mailbox is full and won't let me send u a PM! Only posting on this so u know I can't mail you till u delete a couple things :grin: :grin: :grin:
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A nail bar?
You just need a rotary polisher, some touch up pen and a bit of wet and dry paper...
Got all that, so job done :nerd: Ta, you've just saved me a tenner, or whatever these nail places charge, I confess I've never been to one :whistle:
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Getting back on topic (sorry :tongue:) has anyone had sight of the new price list which was supposed to go live today? The one on the site is still dated 1st April but orders books for the 2016 spec are now open.
Also I've noticed a lot of places aren't listing the DNS, KESSY and Winter Pack for the GTD/ GTI but are making reference to the new 6.5" Display. To confuse things more the same places also listing it as having 18" Durban alloys rather than the Nogaro set it's had to date!
Driver Convenience
'Lights On' warning buzzer
6.5" colour display screen
ACC - Adaptive cruise control with front assist, distance monitoring, city emergency brake and speed limiter
Bluetooth Telephone preparation
Brake pad wear indicator warning light
Driver alert system
Driver profile selection
Exterior temperature gauge
Flat tyre indicator
Infotainment system
Instrument cluster in white
Multi function display colour screen
Multifunction computer
Progressive power assisted steering
Rev counter
Trip and service interval display
Ultrasonic front and rear optical and audible parking sensors
Warning buzzer and light for front seatbelts unfastened
6.5" colour display screen
Entertainment
8 speakers
CD/MP3/WMA, USB and SD card reader, aux-in
Composition media system
DAB Digital radio
MDI with USB/iPod connection cables
8 speakers
Exterior Features
Auto dimming rear view mirror
Automatic coming/leaving home lighting function
Automatic headlights
Bi-Xenon headlights and headlight washers with LED daytime running lights
Body colour bumpers
Body colour door handles
Body colour door mirrors with integral indicators
Cherry red rear light cluster
Chrome louvres in grille
Chrome trimmed front air intake surrounds
Chrome trimmed front fog light surrounds
Electric folding door mirrors with puddle lamps
Electric front windows
Electric rear windows
Electrically adjustable and heated door mirrors
Heat insulated tinted glass 65% light absorbing from B pillar back
Heated rear windscreen
Honeycomb radiator grille - black
Illuminated door sills
LED front fog lights
LED rear lights
LED rear number plate lights
Rain sensor
Range adjustable headlights
Rear diffuser
Rear roof spoiler
Rear window wash/wipe with intermittent delay
Reverse activated kerb-view adjustment on passenger's door mirror
Twin chrome exhaust tailpipes
Windscreen wipers/ intermittent wipe + 4 position delay
Interior Features
12V socket in luggage compartment
3 rear headrests
3 spoke steering wheel
60/40 split folding rear seat
Air conditioning - 2 zone electronic climate control
Ambient lighting
Bag hook in luggage compartment
Black headlining
Boot lashing points
Chrome-plated electric mirror adjustment switch surround
Chrome-plated electric window button surround
Courtesy light delay
Driver's lumbar support
Driver/front passenger seat height adjustment
Dust/pollen filter
Front + rear carpet mats
Front centre armrest with storage box and rear air vents
Front cupholders x 2
Front footwell illumination
Front reading lights
Front seat back storage pockets
Front sport seats
Grab handles
Height/reach adjust steering wheel
Illuminated vanity mirrors
Isofix preparation for 2 rear child seats
Jacara cloth upholstery
Load through provision
Lockable, illuminated, cooled glovebox
Luggage compartment cover
Luggage compartment lighting
Multifunction leather steering wheel with leather gear knob/handbrake grip
Passenger lumbar support
Passenger underseat drawer
Rear centre armrest with 2 cupholders
Rear cupholder
Rear reading lights
Removable armrests
Stainless steel pedals
Storage box in centre console with cover
Storage box in luggage compartment
Storage compartment in roof console with cover
Storage compartments in doors
Variable boot floor, height adjustable and removable
White adjustable panel illumination
Driver's lumbar support
Front cupholders x 2
Front sport seats
Jacara cloth upholstery
Passenger lumbar support
Safety
3 point height adj front seatbelts + pretensioners
3 rear 3 point seatbelts
ABS
Brake calipers in grey
Child locks on rear doors
Door open warning reflectors
Driver/Front Passenger airbags
Driver/Passenger whiplash optimised head restraints
Drivers knee airbag
Electronic parking brake with auto hold
Electronic tyre pressure monitoring
ESP with EDL + ASR
Front and rear curtain airbags
Front passenger airbag deactivation
Front side airbags
Fuel cut off safety device
HBA (Hydraulic Brake Assist)
Pre crash system
Warning triangle and first aid kit holder
Security
Alarm with interior protection
Anti-theft wheel bolts
Electronic engine immobiliser
Remote central locking with 2 remote folding keys
Technical
Diesel particulate filter
Lowered sports suspension
Trim
Chrome air vent surrounds
Chrome-plated light switch surround
Cyclone decorative inserts
Gloss black decorative inserts in centre console
Wheels
18" Durban alloy wheels
Steel space saver spare wheel
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Basic nav, Winter pack and Keyless are now standard on GTI and GTD - the sat nav screen will be up-sized to 6.5" from build |Week 22 production onwards (basically all new orders).
Wheels stay the same - any other incongruities you have spotted are simply typos.
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Basic nav, Winter pack and Keyless are now standard on GTI and GTD - the sat nav screen will be up-sized to 6.5" from build |Week 22 production onwards (basically all new orders).
Wheels stay the same - any other incongruities you have spotted are simply typos.
Yeah I get that, but my point is the inconsistency is getting silly. The VW website, price list (dated 01/04/15) and the data they are giving out to lease companies etc (as in my post) do not match!
They don't seem to have changed the option prices either. Discover Pro is still showing as £1.7k but it should be less if DNS is standard, and winter pack if you spec leather adds £250 even though its supposed to already have :rolleyes:
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Don't give too much credibility to the configurator - its not an accurate tool for doing the job it was intended to do (unfortunately). Pay more attention to the 'printed' pricelist.
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So this week the price rise went on the Gti as expected. And earlier in the week, the base nav, winter pack and keyless all showed as standard features on the gti. (and I therefore requested a revised finance quote as the configuration I am looking at is effectively bit cheaper, and theoretically, higher base spec should improve residuals vs an optioned up car to the same spec) and it was a bit cheaper.
However, now the extra kit has gone from the standard spec list (price rise still there) and the GTD Estate still has it added!
I gather standard spec doesn't actually change until BW22, and no new factory order would be earlier than that (I assume). Aside from the various comments re: configurator accuracy, is this just because a new car from stock might not have those features (yet still the price rise, I assume?!)
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Sorry if I am missing something but are basic nav, winter pack and keyless standard from BW22 or not ?
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Sorry if I am missing something but are basic nav, winter pack and keyless standard from BW22 or not ?
Unclear from what I see now. Difficult to get the right answer from dealers as they seem to consult the configurator!
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Yes they are standard from bw22.
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Not one to split hairs..... but...
There is a difference between the spec changes that VW (the German parent company/manufacturer) introduce as changes to the basic build standard of the base car and then there are changes that a concessioner/importer can introduce to their country specific range by simply making selections from the various options offered by the former (exemplified by the fact no two countries have the same basic spec).
For example the media/nav system upgrade to a larger screen size/gen II standard etc is a manufacturer lead change being introduced BW22 on the production line and applies to all markets. The other UK spec changes such as standard winter pack etc are instigated by VWUK and they can do that at any time by simply changing the build code for a standard UK GTI or whatever trim level.
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My GTi order was submitted last week (CW17) prior to inflation price rise. I ordered Tech Pack and Parking Pack (as they appeared on configurator). The order has not yet been accepted by VW and the dealer is being quite evasive (been waiting for some confirmation since Monday).
I expect my BW to be after CW22. But no idea whether I'll be getting Keyless and Winter Pack...
We shall see. Right now, just hoping I managed to get in before the price rise. If not, it'll probably be a cancelled order to be honest...
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Sounds like the dealer is out of allocation so stalling the order. You will get the new spec features as they will be standard to UK spec cars - although it might be an idea to ensure the option codes are on the order just in case!
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Yes they are standard from bw22.
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Are you able to disclose where you've had this confirmed as I've asked a dealer the same thing who has asked vw themselves who have been unable to confirm this.
Thanks.
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Just went through the configurator again and there are now no changes to the standard spec i.e KESSY, DNS & Winter Pack are all extra. :grin:
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Yes. A pity in the case of someone considering a new order. The changes justified the price increases (and explained the recent disparity in the price of the tech pack on the gti vs the r and the gt)
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Just went through the configurator again and there are now no changes to the standard spec i.e KESSY, DNS & Winter Pack are all extra. :grin:
Unbelievable!! Its all back to how it was now - no additional spec items. Its a shame VWUK cannot be called to task over this - very unprofessional :rolleyes:
What will happen tomorrow? I actually feel sorry for the dealers who have to interface with this nonsense every day.
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It seems to happen all the time when VW change something.
I think the best option is to keep visiting the site and when those little windows that pop up asking you for your opinion appear you have your chance to vent your spleen about the constant misinformation given.
Is it arrogance or just incompetence?
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If it is genuine, then surely it's in their interest to fix it quickly, as a new order that had the cost added, yet it was standard, would have to be adjusted (?!) But a customer 'just browsing' would be more likely to buy if the better spec were there?
Unless it is to stop people who've just ordered adjusting the order to benefit from the changes (although 920 price increase should compensate vw for most of that, and I'm sure vw can afford it anyway! )
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Is it arrogance or just incompetence?
Sadly both. It's ridiculous, how is any poor prospective car buyer supposed to know what they are getting and for how much. If it was one of the big supermarkets they'd be taken to task.
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Had a message back from a dealer who had confirmation that this was a mistake earlier in the week and that the options have not been added to the gti/gtd.
Just an upgrade to a 6.5inch screen from 5.8. Which, if I'm honest, is a bit steep for a 900 quid or so price rise.
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Had a message back from a dealer who had confirmation that this was a mistake earlier in the week and that the options have not been added to the gti/gtd.
Just an upgrade to a 6.5inch screen from 5.8. Which, if I'm honest, is a bit steep for a 900 quid or so price rise.
So no Keyless, Winter Pack and DNS as standard for GTI/GTD then? Just a big price increase. Has this confirmation come from VWUK via your dealer? .
If correct, that's a blow to those who thought they were becoming standard spec from BW22 :sad:
What a fiasco.
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Had a message back from a dealer who had confirmation that this was a mistake earlier in the week and that the options have not been added to the gti/gtd.
Just an upgrade to a 6.5inch screen from 5.8. Which, if I'm honest, is a bit steep for a 900 quid or so price rise.
So no Keyless, Winter Pack and DNS as standard for GTI/GTD then? Just a big price increase. Has this confirmation come from VWUK via your dealer? .
If correct, that's a blow to those who thought they were becoming standard spec from BW22 :sad:
What a fiasco.
Makes me feel a bit better about being week 21! :laugh:
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Makes me feel a bit better about being week 21! :laugh:
Haha Jimble, I bet it does. Only losing out on 0.7 of an inch after all :laugh:
And as a future post BW22 R owner makes me feel better too since we were getting bugger all apart from the bigger screen, and the privilege of paying more for the optional tech pack :laugh:
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Yes, was exactly that, confirmation by the dealer after they had confirmation from vw uk.
Not ordered yet, and the supposed freebies would have probably tipped the balance in favour of buying a gti.
Never mind.
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Yes, was exactly that, confirmation by the dealer after they had confirmation from vw uk.
Not ordered yet, and the supposed freebies would have probably tipped the balance in favour of buying a gti.
Never mind.
Yeah, that's back luck mate. Are you inclined to look elsewhere now?
Mind you, if you leave it a week or so, VW will probably change their minds again!
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If DNS is not going to be standard on the GTI/D now, it rekindles the question over justification of the higher tech pack price on the R. The lower pack price on the GTI/D made sense if basic nav was to be standard as is the case with the lower models, but doesn't anymore if nav is not be standard spec :angry:
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If DNS is not going to be standard on the GTI/D now, it rekindles the question over justification of the higher tech pack price on the R. The lower pack price on the GTI/D made sense if basic nav was to be standard as is the case with the lower models, but doesn't anymore if nav is not be standard spec :angry:
Agreed, so much inconsistency at the moment!
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Yes, the tech pack price discrepancy still makes we think that dns might be coming standard soon? Although as has been suggested here, the tech pack price could change. Maybe it's just so anyone that orders now and manages to get a car from stock can't complain about the missing items (although the screen would presumably also be 5.8")
And, the gtd estate still has the extra kit showing as standard but it still the 'normal ' price premium over the 5 door hatchback.
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The Nav has GOT to be standard otherwise the price rise is a piss take.
As said, it's the only way the price discrepancy with the Tech Pack on the R can make any sense at all. Not that we can trust VW UK to make any sense. The factory make pretty fine cars (for what they are) but the UK online marketing and pricing people need to get on the pace, it's not like VW UK are struggling for money and orders is it?
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I'm in negotiation with a dealer re a GTI PP - but just e-mailed him to say not going any further until VWUK put their house in order.
Has anyone who does Twitter pulled them up on this nonsense yet - I understand they are keen to deal with issues raised publicly there?
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Was just having a look on the VW website and noticed the Polo, Passat and Scirocco have all had a 27/4/2015 update to their price list, but nothing yet for the Golf. There's a lot of standard Navs being thrown around so it would make sense if the GTI and GTD got it.
I also noticed that the Car-Net ‘App-Connect’ is coming in at £100 on Composition Media and Standard Nav, but no extra cost on the Pro Nav. It's a bit out of order charging anything extra for a bit of connectivity that's supposed to be central to what the new stereos have to offer.
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100 extra for the extra connectivity is juat about acceptable (although I take the point about it missing part of what the new system is all about), whereas not bundling base nav is not.
Presume all this connectivity comes through the driver's phone, so a decent data plan would be a good idea?
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In theory the £100 option would allow you to use iPhone sat nav on the standard composition media display, as that is how other manufacturers have implemented CarPlay
Was just having a look on the VW website and noticed the Polo, Passat and Scirocco have all had a 27/4/2015 update to their price list, but nothing yet for the Golf. There's a lot of standard Navs being thrown around so it would make sense if the GTI and GTD got it.
I also noticed that the Car-Net ‘App-Connect’ is coming in at £100 on Composition Media and Standard Nav, but no extra cost on the Pro Nav. It's a bit out of order charging anything extra for a bit of connectivity that's supposed to be central to what the new stereos have to offer.
Current golf price list is now very outdated, surprised they haven't released a new one. We're missing 2016 changes, price rises and any spec enhancements if still happening!
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Wanting an extension to 5 years for my new R before it gets here. Looked on the configurator and it's gone up to £550. Then I look on the current pricelist and it's still just £495.
I think i'll have to trust the pricelist (as conveniently it is cheaper! :laugh:). The configurator is messed up.
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In theory the £100 option would allow you to use iPhone sat nav on the standard composition media display, as that is how other manufacturers have implemented CarPlay
Was just having a look on the VW website and noticed the Polo, Passat and Scirocco have all had a 27/4/2015 update to their price list, but nothing yet for the Golf. There's a lot of standard Navs being thrown around so it would make sense if the GTI and GTD got it.
I also noticed that the Car-Net ‘App-Connect’ is coming in at £100 on Composition Media and Standard Nav, but no extra cost on the Pro Nav. It's a bit out of order charging anything extra for a bit of connectivity that's supposed to be central to what the new stereos have to offer.
Current golf price list is now very outdated, surprised they haven't released a new one. We're missing 2016 changes, price rises and any spec enhancements if still happening!
Yes. Golf one is still dated 1st of April (which is kind of ironic, given the conversations going on on here!)
I think all that changed on 1st of April was the finance offer.
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Hi,
New to the forum, thanks for all the info on this thread. I'm holding off ordering a GTI given that no two options lists seem to be the same on any VW page or the leasing list I have. I've kept an eye on the leasing list options and things have appeared such as the car-net option at £83 but information is still scarce. Just noticed that the price lists on the German site have been pulled awaiting an update. Not sure how long they have been like that but can only hope we are about to get some new ones here in the UK.
Cheers, Neil.
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Welcome Neil :smiley:
Interesting that the .de site has a similar issue; begs the question as to whether there's a supply problem of parts possibly, such as the new head units or just plain too many of the old ones they need shot of first.
You're right about leasing lists etc and it's interesting that on carwow there's mention of end of April price rises only coming in at the end of May "when stocks clear". I'm not sure if that's a standard thing to happen as I only checked now because of the weird price anomalies.
I'm taking half an interest at the moment as I'd be tempted to chuck in an order myself if there was a chance of getting stuff chucked in at pre price increase retail costs rather than waiting another 12 months to see if an Ed40 appears.
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Yes, was exactly that, confirmation by the dealer after they had confirmation from vw uk.
Not ordered yet, and the supposed freebies would have probably tipped the balance in favour of buying a gti.
Never mind.
Yeah, that's back luck mate. Are you inclined to look elsewhere now?
Mind you, if you leave it a week or so, VW will probably change their minds again!
I'm I'm 2 minds about whether to get a new car but gti is/was top of my list (like many on here, the gti is a car I've always wanted to have and the latest one is as good as they get, perhaps other than an immaculate mk2 16v on oak green, but they are quite pricey and definitely don't have winter pack, keyless or nav!).
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sweel
From the looks of it neither will a new GTI or GTD but what you will have is a nice price increase
Good job I didn't change last weekend. Do other German brands have this issue or is it jus VW
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Not sure of the etiquette of linking adverts on here, but, looks like a 27 year old one has same value as a the pcp gmfv on a 3 yr 30k gti.
Should have got one of those and a tom tom for the nav aspect...
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C601994
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And looking at the page before the model specific configurator (where gte gti gtd and r all on same page) clicking on 'key features'and then list all features still shows the nav winter and keyless as standard on gti/d
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Its showing as 'Composition Media System (CMS) as I look at it. And 'key features' is a table entry - not something you click on, on the page I am looking at anyway. Can you provide a link please?
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Its showing as 'Composition Media System (CMS) as I look at it. And 'key features' is a table entry - not something you click on, on the page I am looking at anyway. Can you provide a link please?
Go here http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure
And then where it says "start building 3/5 door" underneath there is a drop down for "Whats included" read that!
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That brilliant - thank you - I have just sent that to my dealer who has been querying the revised specs with VWUK (who told him that it was all just an 'error' apprantly!).
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Its showing as 'Composition Media System (CMS) as I look at it. And 'key features' is a table entry - not something you click on, on the page I am looking at anyway. Can you provide a link please?
Go here http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/golf-gti-vii/configure
And then where it says "start building 3/5 door" underneath there is a drop down for "Whats included" read that!
That's prob the 'error' that VW are referring to.
idiots!!!!
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There's nothing like a bit of rumour and speculation to get everyone in a lather.
After my initial searching around lease lists and brokers who seem to generally be more up to speed than VW's own configurator I asked our resident forum dealer insider and he confirmed a few things for me.
As per the brokers sites, the £135 "inflationary increase" for all Golfs came into effect on 27th April.
This is for 2015 models 'in stock' really before the big increase hits for 2016 'sporty' models.
The GTI/D goes up £920 and the R £670 for 2016 model year cars.
The Gen ii stuff is confirmed for 2016 MY but the drop down on the configurator that still lists Nav, KESSY and Winter Pack are not on the list of what the dealers have in their possession as standard kit yet; it's still optional at time of writing.
There seems to be other interesting stuff going on with other models too but I'll not drag this off topic.
If you're about to sign on the dotted line I'd ensure you do it under the proviso of expected spec until VW confirm what model year and final spec you're getting.
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Received this from VW UK today;
@VWUKHelp: @Vet_2010 The GTD will benefit from an upgrade to the second generation Infotainment system Colin but there are no changes to the spec.
Unfortunately looks like the spec update was an error then :sad:
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Received this from VW UK today;
@VWUKHelp: @Vet_2010 The GTD will benefit from an upgrade to the second generation Infotainment system Colin but there are no changes to the spec.
Unfortunately looks like the spec update was an error then :sad:
Discover Nav will get 3 years "Guide and Inform" included, the £100 Car Net app is still optional on top of that.
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There seems to be other interesting stuff going on with other models too but I'll not drag this off topic.
Do tell :laugh:
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Unfortunately looks like the spec update was an error then :sad:
Thats what they told my dealer today - but the 920 quid price hike is not an error. I am a big VW fan and am getting seriously peed off and disillusioned with the way they are acting. If I feel that way what do people who are 'on the fence' re their car brand think - potential customers who would buy VW, Mercedes or BMW simply depending on how they perceived the package?
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There's nothing like a bit of rumour and speculation to get everyone in a lather.
After my initial searching around lease lists and brokers who seem to generally be more up to speed than VW's own configurator I asked our resident forum dealer insider and he confirmed a few things for me.
As per the brokers sites, the £135 "inflationary increase" for all Golfs came into effect on 27th April.
This is for 2015 models 'in stock' really before the big increase hits for 2016 'sporty' models.
The GTI/D goes up £920 and the R £670 for 2016 model year cars.
The Gen ii stuff is confirmed for 2016 MY but the drop down on the configurator that still lists Nav, KESSY and Winter Pack are not on the list of what the dealers have in their possession as standard kit yet; it's still optional at time of writing.
There seems to be other interesting stuff going on with other models too but I'll not drag this off topic.
If you're about to sign on the dotted line I'd ensure you do it under the proviso of expected spec until VW confirm what model year and final spec you're getting.
The only dealer I have spoken to on this also says it is an error based on their conversation with vw uk, and therefore wouldn't accept an order on this basis. Are we therefore saying that 135 increase is the inflationary amount and the remainder (on non-stcock cars only) will effectively come with a price increase and the addition on DNS Nav, Winter Pack and Keyless on GTI/D.?
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VW certainly seem to be chasing premium money for their cars these days. They're so close to Audi prices these days, you'd buy the Audience if not for lack of equipment and personal taste on looks.
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it seems to get worse - now there is a £260 charge for tornado red.
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it seems to get worse - now there is a £260 charge for tornado red.
:huh:
It's as if some mischievous joker has hacked VW's configurator and is having a great old time of it! It's not you is it Asker. :grin: Can't wait to see what changes next on there :rolleyes:
Seriously, it's incomprehensible.
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I've seen that happen with colours before. If there is a popular free choice they sometimes swap it with another, otherwise the market becomes saturated with cars all in the same colour!
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Are there any colours available without charge now? If not, that might be illegal under EU laws -if it's physically impossible to buy a Golf (or other car) for the advertised basic RRP. VW UK do seem to be trying it on a hell of a lot lately with pricing. It's not as if they've been shy in raising prices during the recession. Now there's the economic upturn that many (not all) are starting to see, the rises seem to be coming thick and fast.
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Configurator is down for me, at least on the GTi
Non metallic black is free on Golf GTD though...
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Yeah just normal black as no cost on GTD. Both TR and Pure White showing as £260 option. GTI config not working but R still showing TR and PW as no cost.
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Hi all - I work in the leasing side of the motor trade and we get our data on all new cars directly from CAP which is starting to come in the Golf GTD over the past few days. From what I can see, based on the data I have to hand which is usually correct, is that the 2016 Golf GTD is now available to order in metallic Deep Ocean Blue, TR is still a no cost option and the Nogaro alloys appear to have been dropped and replaced with 18" Durban Alloys wheels...
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If that's true about the durban alloys being standard i am glad that i wont be getting a build week 22 car. They look good enough for a GTD in my opinion.
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I wondered about the Durban alloys as they showed up on that list I posted a few pages back. Not convinced they'll have the same kerb appeal as the Nogoros.
Funny how the 2016 cars have suddenly gone from looking very appealing with free options, to now been expensive and cut back!
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i was also thinking the nagaro alloys looked really good, the Durban ones are not that nice in my opinion, will be gutted if I don't get the nagaros :cry:
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Full standard spec of 2016 Golf GTD 5dr copied and pasted below for anyone who interested... Again this is just based on the data I have to hand.
Embellishment Trims
• Cyclone decorative inserts
• Gloss black decorative inserts in centre console
Entertainment
• 6.5" colour display screen
• CD/MP3/WMA, USB and SD card reader, aux-in
• Composition media system
• DAB Digital radio
• MDI with USB/iPod connection cables
Interior Features
• 12V socket in luggage compartment
• 3 rear headrests
• 3 spoke steering wheel
• 60/40 split folding rear seat
• Air conditioning - 2 zone electronic climate control
• Ambient Lighting
• Bag hook in luggage compartment
• Black headlining
• Boot lashing points
• Chrome-plated electric mirror adjustment switch surround
• Chrome-plated electric window button surround
• Courtesy light delay
• Driver/front passenger seat height adjustment
• Dust/pollen filter
• Front + rear carpet mats
• Front centre armrest with storage box and rear air vents
• Front footwell illumination
• Front reading lights
• Front seat back storage pockets
• Grab handles
• Height/reach adjust steering wheel
• Illuminated door sills
• Isofix preparation for 2 rear child seats
• Load through provision
• Lockable, illuminated, cooled glovebox
• Luggage compartment cover
• Luggage compartment lighting
• Multifunction leather steering wheel with leather gear knob/handbrake grip
• Passenger underseat drawer
• Rear centre armrest with 2 cupholders
• Rear cupholder
• Rear reading lights
• Removable armrests
• Stainless steel pedals
• Storage box in centre console with cover
• Storage box in luggage compartment
• Storage compartment in roof console with cover
• Storage compartments in doors
• Variable boot floor, height adjustable and removable
• White adjustable panel illumination
Security
• Alarm with interior protection
• Anti-theft wheel bolts
• Electronic engine immobiliser
• Remote central locking with 2 remote folding keys
Trim
• Chrome air vent surrounds
• Chrome-plated light switch surround
Driver Convenience
• Bluetooth Telephone preparation
• Brake pad wear indicator warning light
• Driver alert system
• Driver profile selection
• Exterior temperature gauge
• Flat tyre indicator
• Illuminated vanity mirrors
• Infotainment system
• Instrument cluster in white
• 'Lights On' warning buzzer
• Multi function display colour screen
• Multifunction computer
• Progressive power assisted steering
• Rev counter
• Trip and service interval display
• Ultrasonic front and rear optical and audible parking sensors
• Warning buzzer and light for front seatbelts unfastened
Exterior Features
• Auto dimming rear view mirror
• Automatic coming/leaving home lighting function
• Automatic headlights
• Bi-Xenon headlights and headlight washers with LED daytime running lights
• Body colour bumpers
• Body colour door handles
• Body colour door mirrors with integral indicators
• Cherry red rear light cluster
• Chrome louvres in grille
• Chrome trimmed front air intake surrounds
• Chrome trimmed front fog light surrounds
• Electric folding door mirrors with puddle lamps
• Electric front windows
• Electric rear windows
• Electrically adjustable and heated door mirrors
• Heat insulated tinted glass 65% light absorbing from B pillar back
• Heated rear windscreen
• Honeycomb radiator grille - black
• LED front fog lights
• LED rear lights
• LED rear number plate lights
• Rain sensor
• Range adjustable headlights
• Rear diffuser
• Rear roof spoiler
• Rear window wash/wipe with intermittent delay
• Reverse activated kerb-view adjustment on passenger's door mirror
• Twin chrome exhaust tailpipes
• Windscreen wipers/ intermittent wipe + 4 position delay
Safety
• 3 point height adj front seatbelts + pretensioners
• 3 rear 3 point seatbelts
• ABS
• Brake calipers in grey
• Child locks on rear doors
• Door open warning reflectors
• Driver/Front Passenger airbags
• Driver/Passenger whiplash optimised head restraints
• Drivers knee airbag
• Electronic parking brake with auto hold
• Electronic tyre pressure monitoring
• ESP with EDL + ASR
• Front and rear curtain airbags
• Front passenger airbag deactivation
• Front side airbags
• Fuel cut off safety device
• HBA (Hydraulic Brake Assist)
• Pre crash system
• Warning triangle and first aid kit holder
Technical
• ACC - Adaptive cruise control with front assist, distance monitoring, city emergency brake and speed limiter
• Diesel particulate filter
• Lowered sports suspension
Wheels
• Steel space saver spare wheel
• 18" Durban alloy wheels
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VW have updated the online price list now. The GTD still has Nogaro wheels, but apart from that it's bad news all the way. Extra for red paint, no Nav, no keyless, no winter pack. Just a big price rise.
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"Range adjustable headlights" - with Xenon?
I didn't think you were allowed to do that in the UK...
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Cherry Red rear light cluster? is the current one not smoked?
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Cherry Red rear light cluster? is the current one not smoked?
I think its only the R that is smoked.
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Finally cleared it up then! I'd be happy just having a build week confirmed! :sick:
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lol don't think anything is cleared up, seems like its just pot luck with what we will get on our cars and when we will get them.
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GTI/GTD/R all definitely smoked P3asa. Cherry Red is what the Match has
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GTI/GTD/R all definitely smoked P3asa. Cherry Red is what the Match has
The R definitely has darker (darker smoke?!) rear lenses than the GTI/D.
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I thought it had as well as its usually the darker the lights that get my attention when I see one before I notice the quad exhausts!
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Welcome Alx, and thanks for taking the time to post up the list.
Your list matches the info on a lot of the brokers sites so they must use the same source. Normally these are quite accurate, but I have a suspicion theres something going on at VW UK and it sure isn't clarity or the right hand knowing what the left is up to.
I've been around VW's for far too long and there's definitely something up. VW have just put a £135 price rise across the whole Golf range. That's the inflationary.
There's no way that they would then just chuck on random amounts of extra price rises to the GTI/D and R. There's no way the basic Gen II is worth £920 or £670 depending on which Sport Golf you pick. Then there's no justification for the £600 price difference in the Tech Pack between the models. There simply has to be a big spec change cloaked in there that VW haven't informed their web department or more importantly their dealers and leasing companies about.
The mk7 GTI launch was a mess and reading the forums the Polo GTI launch and spec seems a similar mess. VW UK have issues and the mere fact people are flocking to buy Volkswagens at the moment papers over the cracks. I guess Joe Average or his gran who walk into the showroom are blissfully unaware of the shambles going on and it's only a small minority of customers here on the forum who are a bit more clued up who are well aware of how sh!te VW UK can be and how embarrassing it must be for dealers to have to try to deal with clued up customers rather than ones they can just fob off. My local dealer don't even return calls they're that busy.
So, the best way to get to the bottom of it is to wait for things to settle down once VW's arse knows what its elbow is doing or get on social media and quote all the price and spec disparities and give VW UK hell on a level that will reach higher management in their ivory towers, or better still draw a bit of attention to VW UK from the Fatherland as we must be one of their biggest export markets and the exchange rate means they do rather well out of us.
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totally agree, in maybe 7-8 weeks when people start receiving their new cars I guess we will find out, I guess its a case of just being patient.
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My GTi went to Stage 1 today...I'll let you know when it arrives...Christmas maybe!?
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Thanks Exonian
I've been receiving this CAP data on new models for 15+ years now and I've very rarely known it to be incorrect as its supplied directly to CAP by the vehicle manufacturer i.e VW (I'll probs be eating my words soon - watch this space ;-)). Some of the terms such as the cherry rear lights may not match the fluffy descriptions in the brochures etc but the spec above is taken directly from the GTD listed as the 2016 model year... From experience, I think you'll be bang on the money and when the 2016 GTD/I show's its face there will be a number of differences over the 2015MY.
The configurator may catch up in three to four weeks.
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totally agree, in maybe 7-8 weeks when people start receiving their new cars I guess we will find out, I guess its a case of just being patient.
It's the only way to be sure. The first (post BW22) car delivered on here is going to be the source of great interest!
But welcome and thanks to Alx for trying to clarify what is a very cloudy situation :smiley:
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Hi
First post.
I’ve been considering a new Golf GTI since early this year and have been mainly waiting to see if Apple Carplay would be added (since this was talked about in the press release in January).
I found this thread a couple of weeks ago and have been following it with interest.
So, like anyone else on here who is considering a new GTI/GTD – I was at first perturbed by the £920 increase in price – but seeing as (according to the VW website for at least 10 days or so) this increase would get you the three additional items as standard: Keyless, Winter Pack and Discover Media – PLUS the next gen MIB II interface – I kind of thought it might be justified.
Now however – they have dropped the additional features – but the £920 price increase remains.
I actually gave VW Uk a bit of grief on Twitter earlier this week about all the inconsistency. They kept giving me scripted answers basically saying that the website was in the process of being updated and sorry for any confusion – and admitted that the extra specs were an error.
It seems that with most of the inconsistencies gone and the new price list being publised today – we are basically left with nothing to show for the £920 except the MIB II. (Apple Carplay/Google Auto is an additional £100 on top of that).
Also - the Golf GTD Estate DOES still :sad: have the Keyless, Winter Pack and Discover Media as standard.
Not impressed at all and not sure I want to give VW £920 more of my hard earned cash. Not sure what I'm going to do now.
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VW are idiotically working their way up the Performance Golf scales. Yesterday the GTI could not be configured, today it is the R and the GTE.
Can't believe Tornado Red now costs £260. Equally mad Pure White costing £260.
I have never known any car company that is in such disarray.
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Not impressed at all and not sure I want to give VW £920 more of my hard earned cash. Not sure what I'm going to do now.
Exactly the same feeling here - to balance things there is a 1,250 deposit contribution on offer for finance deals but what is the point of offering this and cynically adding 920.00 the list price. Then adding some free extras - and then arbitrarily taking them away after a week or so. What sort of tin-pot company are we dealing with here?
Not sure what I will do about this either - I have suspended ordering a new Golf on the back of this - very disillusioned with the way VWUK have behaved.
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VWUK seem to be very untrustworthy and not customer focused. I just cannot understand why they behave in such an unsavoury manner and why Head Office in Germany don't bring them to book. Or, is this how VW operate worldwide?
It is no wonder the majority of VW Dealers in the UK are a bunch of shysters.
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I did point them at this thread (hope that's not against the forum rules) to show how many people are similarly annoyed.
I also asked them to justify the price increase. The response I got to that was:
UKVolkswagen: The pricing can fluctuate for many reasons and these models appeal to a wide range of different customers
Ha - talk about reading from a script.
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I did point them at this thread (hope that's not against the forum rules) to show how many people are similarly annoyed.
I also asked them to justify the price increase. The response I got to that was:
UKVolkswagen: The pricing can fluctuate for many reasons and these models appeal to a wide range of different customers
Ha - talk about reading from a script.
Welcome Crispy Duck (great name!) and my hat off to you for being proactive and taking VW UK to task very openly.
This wide range of customers must include an awful lot of affluent mugs if what they're trying to lead us to believe is correct.
Well done for pointing VW in this direction too. I do have a twitter account but I've never used it so not sure how it works - I think it's one of those things I set up a few years ago as it seemed a popular thing to do and the first thing I saw was my younger brother arguing online with someone after he'd had a few pints so I decided at that point I'd leave it there... :grin: :roll eyes:
I'm still adamant there's something lost in translation and that there will be a major spec change. If you look at the price increases across the board for MY 2016 Golfs they vary quite a bit and ignoring the e-Golf most models have a £420 increase (the Inflationary price rise of £135 doesn't apply to MY 2016 cars) a few of them have £570 increases and then we get to the big increases for the GTI/D and R.
I've been seriously considering a fresh order myself (taking into account the six month wait being possible) and right now there's no way I'd give VW any money unless it was an in stock car that came with a big discount as the current situation looks somewhere between a joke and a rip off.
BMW M135i anyone? Just £26k right now at broker prices for a manual.
Thanks Exonian
I've been receiving this CAP data on new models for 15+ years now and I've very rarely known it to be incorrect as its supplied directly to CAP by the vehicle manufacturer i.e VW (I'll probs be eating my words soon - watch this space ;-)). Some of the terms such as the cherry rear lights may not match the fluffy descriptions in the brochures etc but the spec above is taken directly from the GTD listed as the 2016 model year... From experience, I think you'll be bang on the money and when the 2016 GTD/I show's its face there will be a number of differences over the 2015MY.
The configurator may catch up in three to four weeks.
You're quite correct Alx and CAP base their retained values on this information so it affects our part exchanges further down the line too (as you'll be well aware!)
There seems to be other interesting stuff going on with other models too but I'll not drag this off topic.
Do tell :laugh:
Pick a model from the range and I'll tell you a (not so) fascinating fact!!! :laugh: :nerd: :grin:
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MY 2016 changes instigated on the production line are different from the ones we are talking about - the 'free' options that were on the configurator for a week or so can be added (and taken away) by VW UK at any time simply by altering the order codes and changing the base UK spec (every country's official importer has the power to control what options it selects to produce the spec for any given territory). In contrast - factory changes (such as the MIB II with larger screen and the door mirrors opening on unlocking) are physical upgrades to the vehicles that are not done at the instigation of the importer.
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I think we are all clear on the fact anyone who ordered a MY2015 car yet to be built may or may not come with Gen II, it's the £920 increase that's mystifying everyone with the "will they or won't they include nav etc" on MY2016.
Yes, the factory are tooling up for Gen II later this month, it's what VW UK are up to we want to know.
A couple hundred extra for Gen II composition media is fair enough, it's the £920 that's the crux.
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Totally agree with Exonian - I ordered a new GTD last week when the VW configurator had Sat Nav, Keyless & Winter Pack in the price - however I only really wanted a Sat Nav in this car, so with all the uncertainty about what we will get after BW22 I've told my dealer to put Sat Nav on my options list and if by the time its built that has indeed become standard then that's ok, but a justification is needed by VW UK if there are no spec increases and a £920 extortion charge for the privilege of a 2016MY car!
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With all the conjecture on what's changing etc. and with the on line configurator seemingly still as crap as it always was, I've just noticed that VW have a brand new price list for the Golf (dated 5th May), and having a quick scoot around and found these stand out points (if the price list to be believed)
GTD / GTI now come with 6.5" GEN II Composition Media system (same as the Polo 6C), but not the navigation version. In additional to the slightly bigger screen (up from 5.8") it adds SMS functionality – read, compose and send SMS messages using touch-screen display (compatible Android smartphones only). Think Blue. Trainer. – driver tips and journey analysis.
It would seem that Solid black is now the only colour that's free with even Tornado red now costing £260.00.
With regards upgrades to the infotainment system, you can still upgrade to the Discover Pro, or the Discover Navigation (albeit the new version with the 6.5" Screen, as well as add Car-Net "App-Connect" on the Discover Navigation (it seems to be standard on the Discover Pro.
Information on each option below
Car-Net ‘App-Connect’ £100
Combined functionality of Apple ‘CarPlay’, Google ‘Android Auto’ and ‘MirrorLink’ ™ allowing ‘mirroring’ of smartphone display on the infotainment touch-screen via USB connection. Display and operation of certified apps including audio and voice control (if supported by the app). Usage of certified apps only while driving. Only available with compatible smartphones including iPhone 5 and 6. Please see www.volkswagen.co.uk to check smartphone compatibility
Discover Navigation (touch-screen navigation/radio system with Car-Net ‘Guide and Inform’) £750
6.5" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, CD and radio functions. Preloaded European navigation data, 2D/3D map view, three calculated routes (Fast, Short, Eco), dynamic navigation based on TMC+, branded points of interest and Traffic Sign Display. 3-years Car-Net ‘Guide and Inform’ access providing online access to a range of useful information such as traffic, fuel pricing, parking space availability, weather and news feeds. Includes online navigation software updates, enabling you to download the latest map data. Please contact your authorised Volkswagen retailer for full details
Discover Navigation Pro £1,765.00
Voice activated control system – responds to spoken voice commands for navigation and telephone functions. 8.0" colour touch-screen control system for navigation, DVD, CD and radio functions. 64 GB SSD hard drive. Preloaded European navigation data, 3D map view, three calculated routes (Fast, Short, Eco), dynamic navigation based on TMC+, branded points of interest, Traffic Sign Display, photo display from JPEG and PNG files and SD card reader x 2. Car-Net ‘App-Connect’ combines the functionality of Apple ‘CarPlay’, Google ‘Android Auto’ and ‘MirrorLink’ ™ allowing ‘mirroring’ of smartphone display on the infotainment touch-screen via USB connection. Display and operation of certified apps including audio and voice control (if supported by the app). Usage of certified apps only while driving. Only available with compatible smartphones including iPhone 5 and 6. Please see www.volkswagen.co.uk to check smartphone compatibility. 3-years Car- Net ‘Guide and Inform Plus’ access providing online access to a range of useful information such as traffic, fuel pricing, parking space availability, weather, news feeds and Google Earth. Includes online navigation software updates, enabling you to download the latest map data. Please contact your
authorised Volkswagen retailer for full details.
Also, the base prices seem to have shot up. When I purchased my GTD back in 2013, the list base price of my car (5 door GTD DSG) without options was £27,355 and today the same car is £29,005 an increase in 18 months of £1,650 !! What the hell extra do you get for that ?
Apologies if this has already been posted.
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Well- desperately trying to see the positive side - I suppose it does good things for the used values - especially for folks with Discover Pro which will at least not visually look like the 'old' model...
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Word of warning for those tweeting VW UK - when waiting an age for my GTI I tweeted them on a few occasions asking more than reasonable questions - I was subsequently told by VW UK over the phone that if I continued tweeting negatively (I was only asking them questions) that they would cancel my order and they would not allow me to purchase a VW from any retailer. So, in effect, blackmail and bullying. Of course I ignored this, I won't bow to that as it's only a car after all, but this is what you're dealing with. They do not like negative comments via twitter. Which is why it's a fantastic tool to get them to hear us, and our views.
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ive just tweeted haha, I said vw customer service is shocking, price hikes for the GTD and GTI and yet nothing to show for the end consumer.
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That's unbelievable about threatening to cancel the order! :angry:
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If you already have the nav pro can you now get Car-Net and how do you go about getting it?
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And still, on the new pricelist from this week the tech pack is 1240 on the gti but more on the r. Implying a higher standard nav offering on the gti.
Furthermore, as part of the explanation of the tech pack price, there is a box on there that shows what the individual upgrades would cost. And it states the cost of dynaudio plus the upgrade from dns to dns pro in this calculation.
There is of course the risk that if we continue to point this out, they will make the tech pack on gti/d the higher price.
Regarding twitter, can they actually prove who is tweeting vs an order anyway? (Not been a tweeter so I'm unsure on this)
I wonder if anyone has started picking their lotto numbers on 'number of amendments each day on the configurator, although I appreciate lotto numbers have to be 49 or lower. ☺
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Yes well spotted.
The Tech Pack is also available for the GT – which has Discover Navigation as standard – so if you order a Tech Pack on a GT – you are paying more to upgrade to Pro. Realistically you are already half-way there with the Discover Nav – so should be less for the GT.
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If you already have the nav pro can you now get Car-Net and how do you go about getting it?
You can't.
It needed some different hardware that was never available in the UK.
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Word of warning for those tweeting VW UK - when waiting an age for my GTI I tweeted them on a few occasions asking more than reasonable questions - I was subsequently told by VW UK over the phone that if I continued tweeting negatively (I was only asking them questions) that they would cancel my order and they would not allow me to purchase a VW from any retailer. So, in effect, blackmail and bullying. Of course I ignored this, I won't bow to that as it's only a car after all, but this is what you're dealing with. They do not like negative comments via twitter. Which is why it's a fantastic tool to get them to hear us, and our views.
That's disgusting.
If they don't like having a public two way conversation, which is what Twitter is, then they should abandon Twitter. Companies still don't understand that Social Media is not just another junk mail platform, the conversation is two way - which means you need to be able to handle public kickings - or decide to quit using it.
I'd send that to some consumer TV or Radio program, because that's the kind of thing which doesn't play well to the public.
Its one thing to react to deliberate trolling or abuse, but really.
This is quite the biggest 21st century PR blunder I've ever heard!
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That's disgusting.
If they don't like having a public two way conversation, which is what Twitter is, then they should abandon Twitter. Companies still don't understand that Social Media is not just another junk mail platform, the conversation is two way - which means you need to be able to handle public kickings - or decide to quit using it.
I'd send that to some consumer TV or Radio program, because that's the kind of thing which doesn't play well to the public.
Its one thing to react to deliberate trolling or abuse, but really.
This is quite the biggest 21st century PR blunder I've ever heard!
Oh, believe me, I was fuming. Even my dealer had told me to stop going on twitter and asking questions, so they'd contacted him too. I wouldn't mind if I was trolling but I wasn't, I was asking genuine & legitimate questions as no one else within VW could give me a straight answer as to why my order was taking so long and also kept being delayed.
It worked though, magically within a few weeks I got my car. And various apologies from group managers etc. :wink:
I'm not sorry and I would do the same again. It beggars belief why it takes 7 months to give someone their car when BMW (for eg.) can do it in 2 months.
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That's disgusting.
If they don't like having a public two way conversation, which is what Twitter is, then they should abandon Twitter. Companies still don't understand that Social Media is not just another junk mail platform, the conversation is two way - which means you need to be able to handle public kickings - or decide to quit using it.
I'd send that to some consumer TV or Radio program, because that's the kind of thing which doesn't play well to the public.
Its one thing to react to deliberate trolling or abuse, but really.
This is quite the biggest 21st century PR blunder I've ever heard!
Oh, believe me, I was fuming. Even my dealer had told me to stop going on twitter and asking questions, so they'd contacted him too. I wouldn't mind if I was trolling but I wasn't, I was asking genuine & legitimate questions as no one else within VW could give me a straight answer as to why my order was taking so long and also kept being delayed.
It worked though, magically within a few weeks I got my car. And various apologies from group managers etc. :wink:
I'm not sorry and I would do the same again. It beggars belief why it takes 7 months to give someone their car when BMW (for eg.) can do it in 2 months.
Assuming no trolling, threatening to cancel your order and banning you from ordering is ridiculous! It is extremely poor behaviour on VW's part but then that's nothing new. Glad you stood your ground and would do so again.
Agree if they are not prepared to face the music via Twitter and Facebook (and other social media) then they should stop using it. Where I work we use twitter, FB etc, admittedly it's predominantly the domain of the disgruntled, but it has validity and if you are going to use it then you have to take the rough with the smooth.
VW probably have you tagged now as what's known as a Vexatious Customer :grin:
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VW probably have you tagged now as what's known as a Vexatious Customer :grin:
Apparantly everyone knew who I was at the time :grin: That may have been something to do with the letter I sent off to their head honcho, which got passed around, detailing all the various issues. It's not a Ferrari, it's a Golf. I do not understand why these delays occur given all the cars are made in the same factory and under the same platform (eg. MH waiting 7 months for his R - really?!), and I cannot stand poor customer service. The confusion with the configurator, the price increase for nothing (so it seems) and the delays on new orders people are experiencing on here unfortunately shows nothing has changed with VW, but it made me feel better at the time! :laugh:
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If we were talking about buying chocolate bars, i could understand the lack of customer care.
But we are talking about the second most expensive thing anyone will ever typically buy - a car (number one being a house).
But you get less apparent care for potential or new customers than you do from a chocolate bar maker.
Sadly they get away with it, because we all need cars and they are all just as bloody poor.
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If you already have the nav pro can you now get Car-Net and how do you go about getting it?
Car-Net cars will have a SIM slot so it can connect to the internet or you can do it via RSAP. So I doubt very much if the architecture is in the current models.
Also if anyone with an iphone is looking to order Car-Net, they will have to jailbreak their iphone.
My Mrs Audi went from a fulling working Audi Connect with some great features to virtually having nothing after I had got her the iphone 6 for her Xmas. I totally forgot about the car needing RSAP to do its stuff :cry:
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matchboy:
You do tend to exhibit a slightly vicious streak at times. :kiss:
Your pointed and valid questions must have struck a nerve and VW were caught with their pants down and as they were unable to answer you logically and honestly reacted in a completely illogical and ridiculous manner. A rather poor show by them.
Good on you for taking them on. :smiley:
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Just been catching up. Good job I didn't order two weeks ago and rely on the rubbish that VW were spouting.
Honestly, they do it because people still order as they want the car. Exonian, M135 for 26k. My brother is interested in one can you point me in the direction of the brokerage.
I can't believe how poor the customer service is and the information being provided or the lack thereof. Matchboy I can't believe the keyboard warrior tactics they employed.
How they can justify a 1650 price increase since when I bought my gtd in 2013 I don't know.
Having seen the mock ups of the 40th anniversary gti I wouldn't mind one but definitely not ordering until they bring some order to their ranks.
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VW UK seem to contradict themselves at every turn when they're being grilled, they can only dole out so much bollocks before they trip themselves up.
Called Ronald back to see what he was after 2 weeks ago (he rang me literally as I was heading off for a job interview, then didn't ring back after 4:30pm as requested - he finishes at 6pm) - the following day I was off on my Mexico/Berlin hols. So he rang me purely to tell me my car had been built - I knew that, I got the text alerts. I asked him why no-one had satisfactorily explained why my Sept ordered car was now officially a Dec ordered car and therefore not late. He put me on hold for 5 mins while he "investigated". He then admitted it was late and said he would have to speak to my dealer. I asked him why and he wouldn't answer that direct question. I stated that if there is some deserved goodwill gesture due, I want it to be coming from VW UK's pocket, and not the dealership's bottom line - unless he can tell me that the dealership cocked up. He stuttered a bit and made his excuses to call me back later.
He rang back later to offer me a courtesy car. I said I would have one if it was an R, otherwise I would keep driving my GTD until my R turned up and needed to go in for p/x.
I asked about extended warranties - namely that the cost had gone up between the time of ordering and the time it was confirmed on my order - he referred me to the dealer and said I could add extended warranty any time in the future. I corrected him that the official "no restrictions" factory warranty extension has to be bought before the car is registered. He asked why I wanted one, so I replied "VWs aren't as reliable as they used to be, and if I have had to wait 8 months for one, I won't be getting another in 2 or 3 years time unless I order it well before I should even be thinking about a replacement".
With no need for a courtesy car, he made his excuses and his goodbyes. Will he strongarm the dealership into free Autoglym again? Seems that a goodwill gesture out of their own pocket (like a shopping voucher) is unlikely without more direct pressing. He's ringing again next Friday, hopefully to tell me the car has shipped. There is a ship coming from Emden to Tyne on Weds, but it's not a "City of X" ship, it's the HHL Volga.
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I asked about extended warranties - namely that the cost had gone up between the time of ordering and the time it was confirmed on my order - he referred me to the dealer and said I could add extended warranty any time in the future. I corrected him that the official "no restrictions" factory warranty extension has to be bought before the car is registered. He asked why I wanted one, so I replied "VWs aren't as reliable as they used to be, and if I have had to wait 8 months for one, I won't be getting another in 2 or 3 years time unless I order it well before I should even be thinking about a replacement".
When I ordered my GTD last year I went with the VW extended warranty and was told it can't be added after the car is built, EA9 5yrs 90k extended warranty.
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Just been catching up. Good job I didn't order two weeks ago and rely on the rubbish that VW were spouting.
Honestly, they do it because people still order as they want the car. Exonian, M135 for 26k. My brother is interested in one can you point me in the direction of the brokerage.
I can't believe how poor the customer service is and the information being provided or the lack thereof. Matchboy I can't believe the keyboard warrior tactics they employed.
How they can justify a 1650 price increase since when I bought my gtd in 2013 I don't know.
Having seen the mock ups of the 40th anniversary gti I wouldn't mind one but definitely not ordering until they bring some order to their ranks.
Here's a link to the M135i MrP.
I'd kind of planned in my existing mk7 GTI order around the ED40 coming out in 2016 but like you, unless VW short their sh!t out a bit I'll look at alternatives as there's a whole raft of interesting stuff in the same segment that are due to be released over the next few years.
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Exonian can you repost as no link.
I can see it now they 'sort' themselves out only go back to normal when the ed40 comes out as they will be inundated with orders.
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Ooops!
:embarrassed: Well it is Friday!!!
http://www.coast2coastcars.co.uk/car-quote/?manufacturer_id_F=6&model_body_id_F=502%2C4&fuel_type_petrol_F=P&ID=59LWBDH8X7R00PM&vehicle_type_F=C
And yes, no doubt the launch will be a mess of what spec it may or may not have and 'how come a GTI costs the same as a base R' etc. :whistle: :rolleyes:
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We are the tiny minority as the "performance Golf" owners. If you're ordering a 1.6TDI Match you can get it in 12 weeks. I think the idea of allocation is a bit outdated, does the wait limit orders? I think price is the main thing that keeps GTI/R numbers far lower than the rest of the Golf range (not so much the GTD numbers - many diesel owners are wanting those, the better GFVs make it not much more expensive than the lower diesel variants, and then there's the company car action). There aren't many moaners on the VWAudi forum that caters to all levels of trim. Waiting 4-8 months for a car rather than 8-12 weeks and paying 50-80% more than a bottom of the range Golf probably sets our expectations a lot higher than Mr 1.6TDI Match too.
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Worries of RWD in the wet and ice (as well as looks) is probably what keeps most of us buying Golfs than 135's.
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riaz.choudhury@spireautomotive.com - Spire Group
and,
tony.lewis@berry.bmw-net.co.uk - Berry BMW, Chiswick, my BMW Dealership.
Both are BMW dealers and give terrific discounts and service. They meet or better Coast2Coast prices. They are both active on the UK F30 Bimmerpost Forum and many members have bought cars from them.
Their Forum Names are: RiazC and TRL
Best of luck.
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do you guys reckon the reason for such a long wait is because of the week 22 changes that are due to be applied eg the new MIB 11 6'5 screen ? Called up today and they said im probably looking at mid august which in total would be 5 months wait :cry: :embarrassed: :sick:
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do you guys reckon the reason for such a long wait is because of the week 22 changes that are due to be applied eg the new MIB 11 6'5 screen ? Called up today and they said im probably looking at mid august which in total would be 5 months wait :cry: :embarrassed: :sick:
Allocation limitations for the performance models is the cause. 5 months is normal for a GTI/GTD/R if it is an order made from scratch.
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matchboy:
You do tend to exhibit a slightly vicious streak at times. :kiss:
Your pointed and valid questions must have struck a nerve and VW were caught with their pants down and as they were unable to answer you logically and honestly reacted in a completely illogical and ridiculous manner. A rather poor show by them.
Good on you for taking them on. :smiley:
:grin: I just hate poor service, no need for it! And I hate being lied to and mugged off - if VW were truthful from the very start then we'd all know where we stand - but they lie all the time. You would not believe the amount of conversations I've had with various depts/dealers etc at VW whereby you ask the same question and get differing levels of BS. Just tell the truth and then the customer is happy! :smiley:
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I've cancelled my GTi order. It was at stage 2. Whole debacle left a bitter taste along with some personal reasons.
Lost 400, but hey.
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I've cancelled my GTi order. It was at stage 2. Whole debacle left a bitter taste along with some personal reasons.
Lost 400, but hey.
You should not be losing that deposit money if the car has not been given a confirmed build week (which at stage 2 it most certainly has not). Ask the dealer principle for your deposit back in writing.
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I've cancelled my GTi order. It was at stage 2. Whole debacle left a bitter taste along with some personal reasons.
Lost 400, but hey.
You should not be losing that deposit money if the car has not been given a confirmed build week (which at stage 2 it most certainly has not). Ask the dealer principle for your deposit back in writing.
MH is right. You're entitled to your deposit money back. Even if the car is in the showroom and you decide not to take it you can still get your money back. 400 quid is 400 quid!
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How do I find out who the dealer principle is? Thanks
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How do I find out who the dealer principle is? Thanks
Go for either the branch manager or dealership group MD - Benfield group was it? Silverlink or Scotswood Road? Google it.
Have you asked for your deposit back and been met with a flat refusal or just walked away without asking for it back?
Be polite, but firm - they have no right to keep that money. If you don't get your money back then I would be writing to VW UK to get them to put pressure on the dealership.
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The VW MY changes fiasco continues.
Decided to email my dealer yesterday to get an update on my R and see what the current estimated build week is (was BW28 then shifted to BW24 a few weeks back).
Just got a reply saying the VW system seems not to have been fully sorted since vehicles have changed from 2015 model to 2016 (understatement :rolleyes:). And that some models are showing errors (GTi and GTD model), and on several R models, mine included, the estimated build week has gone way back. He's going to keep an eye on it and phone VWUK if necessary.
Doesn't say way back to what? So I've asked the obvious question. Best guess wins a prize :grin:
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BW34 is my guess - just in time for Sept delivery if it moves very quick to the UK post-build.
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BW34 is my guess - just in time for Sept delivery if it moves very quick to the UK post-build.
My money's on BW33 :grin: There's the 3 week factory shut down during in that time. Well I did say I wanted in for 1st Sept, so ok with that. I will not be impressed if it drops back much further than 33/34 though.
If it is BW34 it'll have to ship a damn sight quicker than yours to get here for Sept, maybe a Christmas present instead :whistle:
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The VW MY changes fiasco continues.
Decided to email my dealer yesterday to get an update on my R and see what the current estimated build week is (was BW28 then shifted to BW24 a few weeks back).
Just got a reply saying the VW system seems not to have been fully sorted since vehicles have changed from 2015 model to 2016 (understatement :rolleyes:). And that some models are showing errors (GTi and GTD model), and on several R models, mine included, the estimated build week has gone way back. He's going to keep an eye on it and phone VWUK if necessary.
Doesn't say way back to what? So I've asked the obvious question. Best guess wins a prize :grin:
I spoke to my dealer early this week and they said mine was showing BW48 but apparently all are showing that whilst they sort out the MY2016 palava. I then got an email update from the tracker on Wednesday saying my order had progressed to the next stage but it was actually still on stage 2 so I'm not sure if that meant something was going on behind the scenes. I also wanted to change the spec but was told that if I did my order would lose the MY2015 price lock.
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The VW MY changes fiasco continues.
Decided to email my dealer yesterday to get an update on my R and see what the current estimated build week is (was BW28 then shifted to BW24 a few weeks back).
Just got a reply saying the VW system seems not to have been fully sorted since vehicles have changed from 2015 model to 2016 (understatement :rolleyes:). And that some models are showing errors (GTi and GTD model), and on several R models, mine included, the estimated build week has gone way back. He's going to keep an eye on it and phone VWUK if necessary.
Doesn't say way back to what? So I've asked the obvious question. Best guess wins a prize :grin:
I spoke to my dealer early this week and they said mine was showing BW48 but apparently all are showing that whilst they sort out the MY2016 palava. I then got an email update from the tracker on Wednesday saying my order had progressed to the next stage but it was actually still on stage 2 so I'm not sure if that meant something was going on behind the scenes. I also wanted to change the spec but was told that if I did my order would lose the MY2015 price lock.
Yeah gitsy, I remember reading somewhere (here or the R forum) of someone's dropping right back to well beyond BW40 from BW20 something. Perhaps it's yours I'm thinking of? Anyway, the way he stated 'way back' that's what immediately sprang to mind. Hoping it is just a glitch in the system whilst they're still p!ssing about with the MY2016 changes. We will see!
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I also wanted to change the spec but was told that if I did my order would lose the MY2015 price lock.
What change did you want to make to the spec? Anything major?
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What change did you want to make to the spec? Anything major?
I was going to upgrade my Dynaudio to the Tech Pack. Mainly for the App-Connect/Carplay/Mirrorlink stuff than anything else though the dealer did say that they'd heard that VW had only managed to get that working with a handful of phones so far.
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What change did you want to make to the spec? Anything major?
I was going to upgrade my Dynaudio to the Tech Pack. Mainly for the App-Connect/Carplay/Mirrorlink stuff than anything else though the dealer did say that they'd heard that VW had only managed to get that working with a handful of phones so far.
Did the same, upgraded to the tech pack back in April. Time will tell what the situation with carnet, etc is. My expectations of it are not high.
What was your original estimated BW?
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What was your original estimated BW?
I had a BW20 at one point that I know of, originally ordered the last weekend in February. Compared to when I bought my Mk6 this is nothing.... yet!
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What was your original estimated BW?
I had a BW20 at one point that I know of, originally ordered the last weekend in February. Compared to when I bought my Mk6 this is nothing.... yet!
Yes, the wait is nothing new. Waited months for my mk6 and my second mk5 before that. I always take the long wait into account when deciding to order. Decide when I want the car and work back several months from that. It shouldn't be that way but it is. Comes a a bit of a shock to those who think they might get a VW in 6 weeks though :whistle:
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What was your original estimated BW?
I had a BW20 at one point that I know of, originally ordered the last weekend in February. Compared to when I bought my Mk6 this is nothing.... yet!
Just heard from my dealer. As suspected now BW48 :grin:
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Just heard from my dealer. As suspected now BW48 :grin:
I made a weird noise, like I'd been kicked downstairs, as the dealer said the words forty and eight! Assured me that wasn't realistic and just how they'd loaded the system while they sorted their MY2016 shambles.
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What was your original estimated BW?
I had a BW20 at one point that I know of, originally ordered the last weekend in February. Compared to when I bought my Mk6 this is nothing.... yet!
Just heard from my dealer. As suspected now BW48 :grin:
BW48? That must be a temporray "time out" from the system preparing to reshuffle everyone in post BW22 surely? Unless you ordered the new £1640 paint job made with powdered Unicorn horns suspended in it.
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:grin: :grin:
Loved my dealer's response after me asking what it had dropped back to. He broke the news with the simple words,
"It is currently showing week 48!"
Think he's more shocked than me. I did use your same experience as an example to get across to him that it's most probably a temporary MY2016 system glitch. It had better be :laugh:
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What was your original estimated BW?
I had a BW20 at one point that I know of, originally ordered the last weekend in February. Compared to when I bought my Mk6 this is nothing.... yet!
Just heard from my dealer. As suspected now BW48 :grin:
BW48? That must be a temporray "time out" from the system preparing to reshuffle everyone in post BW22 surely? Unless you ordered the new £1640 paint job made with powdered Unicorn horns suspended in it.
Why yes I did add the special unicorn horn paint with gold leaf flake, to be licked on by Siamese kittens, maybe that's it!
It no doubt is a MY2016 crossover default 'holding week'.
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I just got a screenshot of my updated MY2016 spec from my dealer and there's a few interesting things on it:
1. Cellphone interface in combination with Car-Net - option code 9IE
2. Car-Net eRemote. Contract Duration 3 years. 1 year free of charge - option code YOW
3. USB interface for iPhone - option code UI4
So it would appear I get the "e-Remote" feature?! I've no idea what the cellphone interface thing is. Dealer doesn't know either.
And judging from #3, it looks like the old MDI connection is no more. It's replaced by the new USB interface.
My car is currently provisional week 29, I'm being told the Pretorias are in short supply...
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1. Cellphone interface in combination with Car-Net - option code 9IE
I've no idea what the cellphone interface thing is. Dealer doesn't know either.
I'd hazard a guess that its a SIM card slot in between the 2 SD cards in the Glove box.
Otherwise if you have an iPhone the system become redundant unless you jailbreak it.
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I just got a screenshot of my updated MY2016 spec from my dealer and there's a few interesting things on it:
1. Cellphone interface in combination with Car-Net - option code 9IE
2. Car-Net eRemote. Contract Duration 3 years. 1 year free of charge - option code YOW
3. USB interface for iPhone - option code UI4
So it would appear I get the "e-Remote" feature?! I've no idea what the cellphone interface thing is. Dealer doesn't know either.
And judging from #3, it looks like the old MDI connection is no more. It's replaced by the new USB interface.
My car is currently provisional week 29, I'm being told the Pretorias are in short supply...
Interesting, thanks
When did you order? Presume you've specced Pretorias on yours?
No idea what the Cellphone interface thingy is either.
I'll could ask my dealer for similar detail but assume it would be the same as yours.
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I just got a screenshot of my updated MY2016 spec from my dealer and there's a few interesting things on it:
1. Cellphone interface in combination with Car-Net - option code 9IE
2. Car-Net eRemote. Contract Duration 3 years. 1 year free of charge - option code YOW
3. USB interface for iPhone - option code UI4
So it would appear I get the "e-Remote" feature?! I've no idea what the cellphone interface thing is. Dealer doesn't know either.
And judging from #3, it looks like the old MDI connection is no more. It's replaced by the new USB interface.
My car is currently provisional week 29, I'm being told the Pretorias are in short supply...
Interesting, thanks
When did you order? Presume you've specced Pretorias on yours?
No idea what the Cellphone interface thingy is either.
I'll could ask my dealer for similar detail but assume it would be the same as yours.
Yes, I've ordered the prets. I ordered on March 30th. I had expected the car to go into production this or next week but as I said I'm now out at 29 and who knows, it could go out more...
I should add I am in Ireland, so the dates aren't really comparable to you guys.
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Yes, I've ordered the prets. I ordered on March 30th. I had expected the car to go into production this or next week but as I said I'm now out at 29 and who knows, it could go out more...
I should add I am in Ireland, so the dates aren't really comparable to you guys.
Ah, ok, thanks. Mine's dropped back to BW48 (from 28) but that's to do with the system year changes, hoping that may just be temporary slip but who know?
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Yes, I've ordered the prets. I ordered on March 30th. I had expected the car to go into production this or next week but as I said I'm now out at 29 and who knows, it could go out more...
I should add I am in Ireland, so the dates aren't really comparable to you guys.
Ah, ok, thanks. Mine's dropped back to BW48 (from 28) but that's to do with the system year changes, hoping that may just be temporary slip but who know?
Mine was 22/23. Then it was 28. Now it's 29. I'm also told it's due to MY2016 as well as the Prets issues. If I was told 48 I'd be cancelling...
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Yes, I've ordered the prets. I ordered on March 30th. I had expected the car to go into production this or next week but as I said I'm now out at 29 and who knows, it could go out more...
I should add I am in Ireland, so the dates aren't really comparable to you guys.
Ah, ok, thanks. Mine's dropped back to BW48 (from 28) but that's to do with the system year changes, hoping that may just be temporary slip but who know?
Mine was 22/23. Then it was 28. Now it's 29. I'm also told it's due to MY2016 as well as the Prets issues. If I was told 48 I'd be cancelling...
That is an option, but there's talk that the BW48 shunt (I'm not the only one) may just be a holding week whilst the system changes over. I'll give it time to settle and then see what the situation is. Dealer is keeping an eye on it with a view to contacting VWUK if necessary.
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If it was my own money and they mucked me around like that I'd be buying a BMW (even if they suck ;-)) and I'd be down the BMW garage the same day.
The "usual" VW 4-6 months waiting is quite honestly poor enough, this is just a joke.
Just not good enough when you are spending 35k on a car.
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sorry for the dumb question but whats a prets ?
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sorry for the dumb question but whats a prets ?
19" Pretoria wheels - optional on the R.
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sorry for the dumb question but whats a prets ?
19" Pretoria wheels - optional on the R.
and they don't look anywhere near as good as the Cadiz wheels IMO
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sorry for the dumb question but whats a prets ?
19" Pretoria wheels - optional on the R.
and they don't look anywhere near as good as the Cadiz wheels IMO
Hmm, I'd be of the completely opposite view, but each to their own! To my eyes, the cadiz look like halford replicas and are diamond cut (pain in the arse) into the bargain.
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Wash your mouth out with soap Diehammer! :grin:
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If it was my own money and they mucked me around like that I'd be buying a BMW (even if they suck ;-)) and I'd be down the BMW garage the same day.
The "usual" VW 4-6 months waiting is quite honestly poor enough, this is just a joke.
Just not good enough when you are spending 35k on a car.
The usual 5-ish month wait doesn't bother me, you just order in good time, but BW48 would be looking at Christmas time delivery which is just madness.
Trouble is there's nothing else out there I want. BMW's are not for me. I did consider and look at A45 AMG but in the flesh far too blingy and the price tag for one with a decent spec is stupid money for a hatch.
In any case I was wanting the R on a '65 plate for 1st Sept so some slippage of build week would not be an issue, say week32/33/34. I won't make any rash decisions and will see how it plays out for now.
Hmm, I'd be of the completely opposite view, but each to their own! To my eyes, the cadiz look like halford replicas and are diamond cut (pain in the arse) into the bargain.
Sums it up nicely. VW's choice of diamond cut alloys are looking increasingly tacky.
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Booth11: Audi S3, if the sportback doesn't look too estatey for you? Some good discounts available, should be quicker to get here than an R, but you will need to spend on the options list.
Like you, there wasn't a lot else out there that I liked the look of when the mucking about started.
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Booth11: Audi S3, if the sportback doesn't look too estatey for you? Some good discounts available, should be quicker to get here than an R, but you will need to spend on the options list.
Like you, there wasn't a lot else out there that I liked the look of when the mucking about started.
Considered previously MH but S3 Sportback looks leave me cold and yes, too estatey for me. Find Audi's very, very bland. It isn't all about looks but as I'm intending to keep the car for about 4 years, it does matter (yes I know you're driving more than looking at it).
The R still ticks all my boxes in a way that nothing else out there does, so I will see what transpires. As said, not in a rush but would like to see it sooner rather than later, having ordered a good 7 months ahead of when I want it.
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S3's looks are really growing on me. It is exquisitely appointed on the inside and is a cut above the R. The S3 is beautifully made and I like the chrome window surrounds whereas the R has that horrid nasty rubber stuff. What really annoys me most about the R is that you can see the painted door frames inside. Having a Black car helps. Definitely not very nice. Cheapens the car.
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2. Car-Net eRemote. Contract Duration 3 years. 1 year free of charge - option code YOW
So it would appear I get the "e-Remote" feature?! I've no idea what the cellphone interface thing is. Dealer doesn't know either.
Isn't e-Remote only for electric and hybrid cars?
Well, as of this evening mine's now BW45, so it's moving in the right direction. Just needs to move forward another 21 weeks and it'll be where it started :undecided:
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S3's looks are really growing on me. It is exquisitely appointed on the inside and is a cut above the R. The S3 is beautifully made and I like the chrome window surrounds whereas the R has that horrid nasty rubber stuff. What really annoys me most about the R is that you can see the painted door frames inside. Having a Black car helps. Definitely not very nice. Cheapens the car.
Do you seriously believe that Audi's are put together better than VW's?? I can't see it myself.
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S3's looks are really growing on me. It is exquisitely appointed on the inside and is a cut above the R. The S3 is beautifully made and I like the chrome window surrounds whereas the R has that horrid nasty rubber stuff. What really annoys me most about the R is that you can see the painted door frames inside. Having a Black car helps. Definitely not very nice. Cheapens the car.
Do you seriously believe that Audi's are put together better than VW's?? I can't see it myself.
Yes, I seriously believe it and yes, you can't see it yourself.
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Well, I think probably the S3 has some more premium trim, but then again for the extra money, it bloody well should have an extra 50 quid's worth of trim from the premium bin.
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I don't think an S3 is much likely to be any better put together than an R, perhaps it's in the eye of the beholder.
I'm sure I've said it recently on another thread, but the Audi chrome window surrounds :sick:
I'll take the R's looks over the S3.
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I'm sure I've said it recently on another thread, but the Audi chrome window surrounds :sick:
I'm sure there is an option to have all black now. So your obviously not alone in thinking it looks :sick:
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I'm sure I've said it recently on another thread, but the Audi chrome window surrounds :sick:
I'm sure there is an option to have all black now. So your obviously not alone in thinking it looks :sick:
Well at least there's a choice there then but still not sold on the rest of the car.
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Yeah you can have "black" trim, it costs extra (naturally, this is Audi) - 395 quid
I do think the S3's full in ya face leather sports seats are rather nice looking but they do sting you for it and then some - 795 quid
Quite probably a really nicely blinged S3 does look nicer than a Mk7R but once again, spunking another 10k on toys and bling?
I still say you'd only do it if you were a badge snob.... and could find some way of not shoving the brochure up where the sun doesn't shine on the Audi salesman.
I'm not and I couldn't, so I drive a VW :)
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I can't see the Audi S3 (or any other A3) being put together any better than an R (or any other Golf) either. It just won't happen if you understand high volume and lean manufacturing techniques employed by car manufacturers. Robust work instructions strictly adhered to (which will be common to all the mainstream VAG models) for those jobs with a human input, common tooling/templating, and standardised robotics on standardised and validated progreamming for the automated stuff etc. Time is money, every job will have a tolerable limit on it and a fixed window of time to do it if there is a level of adjustment rather than "one way only" guides ("peg in hole and secure around" type lining up of components) - they don't have time for fettling 1/10th of a mm here or there before the next car is coming through. If anything is fixed beyond tolerance then it will be flagged for readjustment later if it does not impede further build at that point.
To get the kind of perfection that is imagined Audi achieve, you need to look at the likes of the glass factory in Dresden where the Phaeton is hand-built by technicians wearing white cotton gloves.
Under the skin, almost all of the parts are the same, is there a better way of screwing the Audi together than the VW (or Seat or Skoda) when almost all of the parts are the same? Reliability surveys show that Audi does not sit at the top of the VAG tree, it is distinctly average on that score, along with most of the rest of the VAG range.
Exterior-wise, the A3/S3 is every bit as likely to suffer the same degree of orange peel (which is not at all bad by today's standards with the use of water based paints - BMWs and Hondas are much worse), the body panels are welded in the same way. Everything working off the same platform (MQB for the latest Golf/A3 and others) will be built the same way.
We've seen the Seat Exeo take over where the last gen of Audi A4 left off in the same plant as it was essentially the same car with a Seat interior and a rebadge. Did they move the Audi people on and bring in Seat people trained to a lower standard and see building standards suddenly drop off when the Seat model took over and the new A4 went elsewhere?
When you buy any mainstream VAG car, you get standardised building techniques throughout. When you buy an Audi over a VW then you get plusher door cards, part/full leather seats as standard....and a serious lack of standard equipment.
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Yeah you can have "black" trim, it costs extra (naturally, this is Audi) - 395 quid
I do think the S3's full in ya face leather sports seats are rather nice looking but they do sting you for it and then some - 795 quid
Quite probably a really nicely blinged S3 does look nicer than a Mk7R but once again, spunking another 10k on toys and bling?
I still say you'd only do it if you were a badge snob.... and could find some way of not shoving the brochure up where the sun doesn't shine on the Audi salesman.
I'm not and I couldn't, so I drive a VW :)
No S3 for me then :grin: I'm no badge snob either.....well, within reason :whistle:
No, the R is still the only one that delivers on all my criteria. Nothing beats it in the 'understated looks' department :grin:
MH - I think most of us (bar one, or two) are agreed that the difference in build quality between R and S3 is probably zero (for the reasons you state). The cabin of the S3 may be superior but if that was my number one priority I'd be driving something very different. The Golf cabin does nicely for me.
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I am glad many of you are satisfied that the Golf has as good a build quality as an A3. However, I beg to differ. This in no way means that I dislike a Golf or wished I did not acquire one.
I spent the last couple of weeks, whilst taking long works and jogging, looking at numerous A3 Sportbacks including 4 S3s and 5 door Golfs including 1 GTI, 3 GTDs and 3 Rs that have populated my area in London. Yes, I have nothing better to do, it would seem!
From my careful observations of the external panel fit on these cars there is no question that the Audis are far better put together than the Golfs. The common problems with nearly all the Golfs: (1) badly hung front doors, (2) non-centralised grilles and (3) inconsistent panel gaps. Of the Audis I observed, only one had a badly hung door and their panel gaps were very tight and consistent.
Whether you disagree or not believe me is neither here nor here. I state what I observed and my eyes do not lie I can assure you.
Having said the above, I will reiterate that am still pretty happy I got an R.
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I spent the last couple of weeks, whilst taking long works and jogging, looking at numerous A3 Sportbacks including 4 S3s and 5 door Golfs including 1 GTI, 3 GTDs and 3 Rs that have populated my area in London. Yes, I have nothing better to do, it would seem!
So you're out of the closet as the local VAG car stalker. Be careful, some people take exception to that kind of thing, we wouldn't want any harm to come to you. I hope your stealth is such that you don't go around setting off all the alarms as you inspect the minutiae of each car.
I don't think any of us are really the kind to blindly defend Golf quality just because we happen to own one. If something obviously has a higher build quality, fair enough, but I still have my doubts that that is the case with the A3's v the GTD/GTI/R.
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I owned an A3 many years ago before I bought my first GTI. I admit I was suckered by the badge and the perceived quality. The car was easily the worst car I ever owned. It was such a let down from day one. Numerous rattles, terrible paint finish, you name it.
An A3 is a Golf in an (arguably) prettier dress. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.
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An A3 is a Golf in an (arguably) prettier dress. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.
The A3 has the better fitting dress though not necessarily a prettier one. :laugh:
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Panic over (for now) my car is now at BW29 (for now).
So in the space of a week it slipped back 20 weeks, then jumped forward 3 weeks and today leapt forward another 16 weeks. Don't you just love VW :rolleyes:
The downside is now I won't get to buy the prettier frocked, and far superior built S3 :tongue: :kiss:
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Panic over (for now) my car is now at BW29 (for now).
So in the space of a week it slipped back 20 weeks, then jumped forward 3 weeks and today leapt forward another 16 weeks. Don't you just love VW :rolleyes:
The downside is now I won't get to buy the prettier frocked, and far superior built S3 :tongue: :kiss:
If the S3 has a better looking interior, and the Golf has a better looking exterior, wouldn't you say that the Golf has the prettier dress and the S3 has the saucier undergarments?
BW29? You might still get it before mine arrives - 30 days since mine left Wolfsburg....
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The R has a short skirt and no underwear?
Can tell why its the real man's choice can't you :evil:
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Panic over (for now) my car is now at BW29 (for now).
So in the space of a week it slipped back 20 weeks, then jumped forward 3 weeks and today leapt forward another 16 weeks. Don't you just love VW :rolleyes:
The downside is now I won't get to buy the prettier frocked, and far superior built S3 :tongue: :kiss:
That's great. Same week as me, week 29. I wonder are VW expecting a big delivery of Pretoria wheels that week or what ?!!
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If the S3 has a better looking interior, and the Golf has a better looking exterior, wouldn't you say that the Golf has the prettier dress and the S3 has the saucier undergarments?
BW29? You might still get it before mine arrives - 30 days since mine left Wolfsburg....
Yeah but if the exterior is pig ugly you might not stick around long enough to enjoy the risqué underwear....and what lies beneath :wink:
Just seen the other thread, so at long last the arrival of your R is imminent. I really hope it's worth the seemingly endless wait. Have you had any offer of goodwill? A new set of Conti 5p's or Michelin PSS would be a nice gesture :whistle:
The R has a short skirt and no underwear?
Can tell why its the real man's choice can't you :evil:
That explanation doesn't quite work for me, or are you insinuating something :grin:
That's great. Same week as me, week 29. I wonder are VW expecting a big delivery of Pretoria wheels that week or what ?!!
It's a relief! I asked the dealer to keep me informed if it starts jumping around again, he doesn't seem to think it will. Apparently there were 3 R's that it happened to and all have now reverted back to roughly where they started.
Ha, yeah week 29 must be Prets delivery week.
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Booth11: Well Ronald didn't call yesterday as he said he would, nor today to return my call. I will have to chase him down to get him to commit to a gesture before I have got my car. Hoping for them to make a discount/contribution to the 5 year warranty I bought.
Will be interesting to see whether "PoEn" officially being reached today will prompt a tracker movement to stage 6 tomorrow morning.
Was behind a 3 door Lapiz R with Prets for most of the way home. Not sure what all the fuss is about with 4 pipes being "too showy", the inner 2 pipes were so sooty that they blended in with the black valance, it just looked like it only had 2 pipes to the casual glance. Even on a crappy drizzly 4:40pm afternoon the Lapiz was looking great.
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Booth11: Well Ronald didn't call yesterday as he said he would, nor today to return my call. I will have to chase him down to get him to commit to a gesture before I have got my car. Hoping for them to make a discount/contribution to the 5 year warranty I bought.
Will be interesting to see whether "PoEn" officially being reached today will prompt a tracker movement to stage 6 tomorrow morning.
Was behind a 3 door Lapiz R with Prets for most of the way home. Not sure what all the fuss is about with 4 pipes being "too showy", the inner 2 pipes were so sooty that they blended in with the black valance, it just looked like it only had 2 pipes to the casual glance. Even on a crappy drizzly 4:40pm afternoon the Lapiz was looking great.
Fingers crossed that stage 6 comes tommorow.
When I first saw the pics of the quad exhausts I wasn't sure at all, but in the flesh I agree, they don't look that showy at all, I love 'em. Mine won't be sooty though, they'll be gleaming at all times, well most of the time. The Lapiz is gorgeous and if I wasn't such a sucker for black that's what I would've gone for myself, it was second choice.
Looking forward to the pics of yours, very soon I hope :smiley:
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That explanation doesn't quite work for me, or are you insinuating something :grin:
I think we just see you as an honorary bloke :whistle:
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Interesting afternoon.
Drove an immaculate MK6 GTD DSG 5 Door in Grey with Continental Tyres. The car was so beautifully put together and I think it still looks lovely. Nice drive also.
Then drove a metallic Black S3 Stronic Sportback with Continental Tyres. Loved it. The interior is something else and I rather like its looks.
Then drove my R with Bridgestone Tyres. Loved it to.
Would be happy with any of them.
The Audi on Contis had teeny weeny bit less road noise..
Finally, drove our BMW and it was ever so relaxing, comfortable and fast.
Tomorrow, I am going to test drive a Porsche Macan.
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The downside is now I won't get to buy the prettier frocked, and far superior built S3 :tongue: :kiss:
I think you got this one wrong dear.
I said the S3 has a better fitting frock, not a prettier one. However, I personally don't think you cannot ever call any hatchback pretty.
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The downside is now I won't get to buy the prettier frocked, and far superior built S3 :tongue: :kiss:
I think you got this one wrong dear.
I said the S3 has a better fitting frock, not a prettier one. However, I personally don't think you cannot ever call any hatchback pretty.
Allow me to refresh your memory. You originally said it had a prettier frock, then some time later you edited your post to read, a better fitting frock. I was merely sticking with your original statement
However, to appease you my love, I will amend it.
The downside is now I won't get to buy the better fitting frocked, and far superior built S3 :tongue: :kiss:
Better now? :kiss:
However, I personally don't think you cannot ever call any hatchback pretty.
My Mk6 is pretty.
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My Mk6 is pretty.
Even with those wheels? :evil:
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My Mk6 is pretty.
Even with those wheels? :evil:
Better than Cadiz :tongue:
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Interesting afternoon.
Drove an immaculate MK6 GTD DSG 5 Door in Grey with Continental Tyres. The car was so beautifully put together and I think it still looks lovely. Nice drive also.
Then drove a metallic Black S3 Stronic Sportback with Continental Tyres. Loved it. The interior is something else and I rather like its looks.
Then drove my R with Bridgestone Tyres. Loved it to.
Would be happy with any of them.
The Audi on Contis had teeny weeny bit less road noise..
Finally, drove our BMW and it was ever so relaxing, comfortable and fast.
Tomorrow, I am going to test drive a Porsche Macan.
That's a lot of cars in one day. You've admitted a car stalking habit, is it worse than that? Are you also a car thief Asker? Come clean :laugh:
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My Mk6 is pretty.
Even with those wheels? :evil:
Better than Cadiz :tongue:
But Black wheels are usually the preserve of chavs, boy/girl racers. You are neither, but from what I have heard a rather delectable lady. Also, those wheels look like Audi ones. Glad you are getting rid of the car soon, especially due to the wheels. Love ya! :kiss:
Interesting afternoon.
Drove an immaculate MK6 GTD DSG 5 Door in Grey with Continental Tyres. The car was so beautifully put together and I think it still looks lovely. Nice drive also.
Then drove a metallic Black S3 Stronic Sportback with Continental Tyres. Loved it. The interior is something else and I rather like its looks.
Then drove my R with Bridgestone Tyres. Loved it to.
Would be happy with any of them.
The Audi on Contis had teeny weeny bit less road noise..
Finally, drove our BMW and it was ever so relaxing, comfortable and fast.
Tomorrow, I am going to test drive a Porsche Macan.
That's a lot of cars in one day. You've admitted a car stalking habit, is it worse than that? Are you also a car thief Asker? Come clean :laugh:
Darlin'. Love to stalk you! :kiss:
And I am not a car thief yet, but it could be a possibility if my night job is not lucrative enough! :laugh:
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But Black wheels are usually the preserve of chavs, boy/girl racers. You are neither, but from what I have heard a rather delectable lady. Also, those wheels look like Audi ones. Glad you are getting rid of the car soon, especially due to the wheels. Love ya! :kiss:
Well of course I am a delectable lady but don't we all have a tiny but of chav in us, deep down, even you I suspect. After all an R just a ST for grown up and boring people :grin: :kiss:
My car is beautiful, black wheels and all, I will miss it greatly and hope it goes very far away so I cannot witness it's inevitable demise :cry:
Darlin'. Love to stalk you! :kiss:
You might want to reconsider. Haven't you heard, I'm an honorary bloke :grin:
And I am not a car thief yet, but it could be a possibility if my night job is not lucrative enough! :laugh:
Best I invest in a decent immobiliser then if you're going to be creeping in the dead of night, car snatching :wink:
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But Black wheels are usually the preserve of chavs, boy/girl racers. You are neither, but from what I have heard a rather delectable lady. Also, those wheels look like Audi ones. Glad you are getting rid of the car soon, especially due to the wheels. Love ya! :kiss:
Well of course I am a delectable lady but don't we all have a tiny but of chav in us, deep down, even you I suspect. After all an R just a ST for grown up and boring people :grin: :kiss:
I am not boring and definitely not a chav or will ever be. But one never knows. What I am is a very naughty man! :laugh:
My car is beautiful, black wheels and all, I will miss it greatly and hope it goes very far away so I cannot witness it's inevitable demise :cry:
I feel your pain. Same as I felt when my GTI went away :cry:
Darlin'. Love to stalk you! :kiss:
You might want to reconsider. Haven't you heard, I'm an honorary bloke :grin:
And I am an honorary woman! Makes things even more complicated. :laugh:
And I am not a car thief yet, but it could be a possibility if my night job is not lucrative enough! :laugh:
Best I invest in a decent immobiliser then if you're going to be creeping in the dead of night, car snatching :wink:
The night job deals with matters of the flesh! An immobiliser will do you no good. In fact it might be the perfect thing for my purpose!
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Sent you a PM regarding equipment for car theft. Not for public consumption. Quite worrying, nay shocking, how easily this equipment can be accessed
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Anybody else having trouble checking the tracker today ?
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Sent you a PM regarding equipment for car theft. Not for public consumption. Quite worrying, nay shocking, how easily this equipment can be accessed
Haha, Mrs Asker, or is it Ms? :kiss:
I received your PM, that's what I was alluding to in my mention of an immobiliser. Have sent you a reply. Very much appreciate you sharing the info :smiley:
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Anybody else having trouble checking the tracker today ?
Yes, just checked it and coming up as can't find my order., pleae check tracker number etc. Not unduly concerned, they must be doing something behind the scenes.
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The last time this happened i got a notification the next day so hopefully the same this time.
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Sent you a PM regarding equipment for car theft. Not for public consumption. Quite worrying, nay shocking, how easily this equipment can be accessed
Haha, Mrs Asker, or is it Ms? :kiss:
I received your PM, that's what I was alluding to in my mention of an immobiliser. Have sent you a reply. Very much appreciate you sharing the info :smiley:
My pleasure. Got your reply. I seriously think you should consider the immobiliser I suggested. Peace of mind. Really nifty bit of equipment.
Next thing will be to invest in some dash cams, probably. Will wait for Matt (MH) to do his research and see what he comes up with as he is going fit these front and rear.
For now, Ms would be more appropriate. You: Master or Mr? :kiss:
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My pleasure. Got your reply. I seriously think you should consider the immobiliser I suggested. Peace of mind. Really nifty bit of equipment.
Next thing will be to invest in some dash cams, probably. Will wait for Matt (MH) to do his research and see what he comes up with as he is going fit these front and rear.
I won't be fitting dash cams. I really have no need for them and if I did fit them my other half will think I've finally lost the plot. As it is he stoically tolerates my car OCD but there's a limit :laugh:
Master or Mr? :kiss:
Honorary bloke or not, I am a woman so it's Miss to you :tongue:
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Honorary bloke or not, I am a woman so it's Miss to you :tongue:
Miss it is and I am a Mr most of the time. Lord or Sir at weekends! :kiss: :laugh:
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My pleasure. Got your reply. I seriously think you should consider the immobiliser I suggested. Peace of mind. Really nifty bit of equipment.
Next thing will be to invest in some dash cams, probably. Will wait for Matt (MH) to do his research and see what he comes up with as he is going fit these front and rear.
I won't be fitting dash cams. I really have no need for them and if I did fit them my other half will think I've finally lost the plot. As it is he stoically tolerates my car OCD but there's a limit :laugh:
Master or Mr? :kiss:
Honorary bloke or not, I am a woman so it's Miss to you :tongue:
I would heartily recommend a dashcam after the chew I went through when the idiot in the Citroen van rearended my GTD in November then maintained a wall of silence with his insurance company after they only heard about the incident via me and my insurance company. They finally settled on a "without prejudice" basis as their attempts to get their client's side of the story went unfulfilled. Really dragged the process out. Would have loved to have been able to provide footage, possibly seeing the look of horror unfold on his face when he realised that he wouldn't stop in time (I didn't see it myself as I was looking for a gap on the roundabout I was wanting to get onto).
So many dashcams, and each have their strengths and weaknesses, some very cheap, some very expensive, some not very reliable, some which are decent in daylight but take poor night time footage, some with amazing processing hardware, but a crap lens spoils it all, some huge and very conspicuous. Do you get a power box to maintain a parking mode that would (hopefully) capture a hit and run parking scrape, do you go front and back or just front only.....
The possibilities are endless.
As a front only "premium" camera, the Mio MiVue 658 looks excellent, but Mio haven't released a powerbox for it in this country, so parking mode is out of the window. It does have GPS enabled speed camera alerts and updates for life of the database.
As a front and rear combo goes, I whittled it down to a few options:-
Blackvue 650, Very good daylight footage, average night performance, but sometimes the rear feed is dodgy and distorts to green and orange (think Predator's viewpoint in the Arnie film of the same name). Quite discrete as both cameras are compact and tubular.
Blackvue 750, as above on the performance, rear camera is a bit better, no mention (that I have found) of the orange and green distortion, but front camera is not discrete, and will be very prominent unless you tuck it up behind the rearview mirror (rendering the big touchscreen display which can double up as a parking cam display unreadable).
Lukas 7950 Duo Pro. I was all set to buy a Blackvue 750 set today from TTW (blackvue.eu is their blackvue sales website) as the freebies their set comes with for a little more than the 650 more than make up the modest price hike). I rang the number up on the website and they recommended spending a little more on the Lukas, which has power management and GPS built on (no magic power box required for park mode), and the picture quality is better than the 750 according to him. I said i'd call back after checking out a few reviews. More than one said the 7950 struggles to focus as it has very good processing and sensors, but hampered by a crap lens. He said that the Mio was a great little camera, if not for the (current) lack of a magic power box for it. I do wonder if these boxes are specific to the camera, or if they are compatible if the power jack in is the same size and voltage.
If someone put a gun to my head right now to make my pick one, i'd probably go for the Blackvue 750 deal on at blackvue.eu that comes with a 64Gb SD card, hard case and magic power box for £30 more than the 650 that comes without the hard case and card. Still undecided. It would be the Mio if I could get around the lack of powerbox.
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Just had this from VW. Someone must be listening...
"We’re adding some great new options to standard spec on all MY16 Golf GTD and GTI models, making them even more attractive than their competitors.
To support this offer, we’re promoting the Golf with marketing activity worth £1 million.
All units built from week 22 (starting 25 May) onwards will come with the following options, worth a fabulous £1,515 to the customer, as standard:
• Discover Navigation – £750
• Winter Pack – £400
• Keyless Entry – £365
These items have been automatically added to all orders in the pipeline that will be built from week 22 onwards. Most of these customer deliveries should reach your sites from late June.
MY16 GTD or GTI orders with one (or a combination) of these options will consign at the lower price (ie excluding the option cost). Please make sure this saving is passed on to the customer.
The Golf GTD Estate was launched with these options included as standard"
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All units built from week 22 (starting 25 May) onwards will come with the following options, worth a fabulous £1,515 to the customer, as standard:
• Discover Navigation – £750
• Winter Pack – £400
• Keyless Entry – £365
These items have been automatically added to all orders in the pipeline that will be built from week 22 onwards. Most of these customer deliveries should reach your sites from late June.
Remind me what the 2015 price increase is :whistle: :wink: Accounts for two thirds of the "fabulous" offer.
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Will VW UK ever make up their minds? Crazy!!!!
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Keyless Entry, Winter Pack and Discover Nav are showing up as standard on both the Configurator and Spec section of VW website for the GTD/GTI so fingers crossed this isn't another 'mistake'.
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Just had this from VW. Someone must be listening...
"We’re adding some great new options to standard spec on all MY16 Golf GTD and GTI models, making them even more attractive than their competitors.
To support this offer, we’re promoting the Golf with marketing activity worth £1 million.
All units built from week 22 (starting 25 May) onwards will come with the following options, worth a fabulous £1,515 to the customer, as standard:
• Discover Navigation – £750
• Winter Pack – £400
• Keyless Entry – £365
These items have been automatically added to all orders in the pipeline that will be built from week 22 onwards. Most of these customer deliveries should reach your sites from late June.
MY16 GTD or GTI orders with one (or a combination) of these options will consign at the lower price (ie excluding the option cost). Please make sure this saving is passed on to the customer.
The Golf GTD Estate was launched with these options included as standard"
Is this VW's answer to get GTI sales up again? Seems daft to go against the grain and leave the standard R less well equipped than the other 3 (including GTE) performance VWs. I wonder how many dealerships still charge those who ordered some or all of those items as options? Not sure i'd want Keyless - are keyless cars still seen as less secure/easier to steal?
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Just had this from VW. Someone must be listening...
"We’re adding some great new options to standard spec on all MY16 Golf GTD and GTI models, making them even more attractive than their competitors.
To support this offer, we’re promoting the Golf with marketing activity worth £1 million.
All units built from week 22 (starting 25 May) onwards will come with the following options, worth a fabulous £1,515 to the customer, as standard:
• Discover Navigation – £750
• Winter Pack – £400
• Keyless Entry – £365
These items have been automatically added to all orders in the pipeline that will be built from week 22 onwards. Most of these customer deliveries should reach your sites from late June.
MY16 GTD or GTI orders with one (or a combination) of these options will consign at the lower price (ie excluding the option cost). Please make sure this saving is passed on to the customer.
The Golf GTD Estate was launched with these options included as standard"
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Thanks for posting that ALX .
It probably explains why my dealer has been trying to contact me today.
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Missed these updates by 5 days :angry: I would have saved £10 a month on keyless and would have specced the sport & sound pack and tinted windows in its place.
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Really hope the above is true.. as my car probably wont be coming till mid july / august. All 3 would be a welcome bonus that I wasnt expecting.
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I was just on the VW site and used the configurator and its saying winter pack with leathers included .. do you reckon this is right ? i originally thought it was just the winter pack as in heated seats etc, but it also says leather seats. So confusing.
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I think that means if you have leather the winter pack is included (and logically, it should mean leather is now cheaper as the heated seats that were bundled with leather are now standard)
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Heated seats were always free with leather though.
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Hi,
There are some other odd things if you look down the spec list like red brake calipers appear to be standard and not part of the PP...
Neil.
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Heated seats were but the winter pack also includes heated washers which is all the winter pack woth leather previously included.
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gents and ladies, can you do me a favour and see if the track my order website is working ?
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gents and ladies, can you do me a favour and see if the track my order website is working ?
Working ok for me this morning :smiley:
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gents and ladies, can you do me a favour and see if the track my order website is working ?
If I go through the tracker then it can't find my order. If I log into Volkswagen then the order is listed under 'My Cars' and is showing Stage 2 which is more detail than it used to in that section.
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cheers gitsy seems you are having the same problem
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Not sure where to post updates on my R so decided to resurrect my 'mega thread' :laugh: My R does have the Tech Pack so there is a tenuous link :whistle:
Well, I checked in with my dealer today and the estimated build week has slipped yet again, only by a week, but still. So since Jan it's shifted around a bit: BW 28-29-45-29-34-35. :rolleyes:
Jesus! It's taking nearly as long as having a real baby - from conception to delivery, and some of that is much more fun!!
If my Mk6 gets sold soon, I may press VWUK to supply a courtesy car, which they may agree to if the wait is over 6 months. Will drop it into my reply to my dealer.
O R, R, wherefore art thou R? :sad:
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i've got a spare one on the drive, comes with a choice of tyres to suit all occasions
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i've got a spare one on the drive, comes with a choice of tyres to suit all occasions
Don't rub it in wigit :tongue: Some people are so greedy, hogging all the Rs! (you need a bigger driveway soon, in addition to the wheel room)
I've allocated today to wallow in self pity :cry: :cry: :laugh:
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Don't rub it in wigit :tongue: Some people are so greedy, hogging all the Rs! (you need a bigger driveway soon, in addition to the wheel room)
I've allocated today to wallow in self pity :cry: :cry: :laugh:
To be honest, I dont know how any of you wait for your cars, i am in the camp of I want it and I want it now! I am really not that fussed over colour and spec as i probably wont keep it that long so take the nearest to my ideal that can be had quickly at a good price....
On that note, GTi PP 3 dr manual in Tornado Red for sale - winter pack and discover nav, 5000 miles now, probably 6k by time it can go in August .... dealer has bid 20k so £21k for quick sale :)
New A6 quattro coming in its place - need something more practical and a motorway mile eater. Also not ordered but taken from what was (just about) available....
Ian
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Cheer up grumpy pants!
So, we've had a few hints that the GTI might be going soon - did you get a private sale on it Fraulein B?
Someone will have a really good car there (kerbed wheels aside) :laugh: :kiss:
The R will be worth the wait, I can guarantee you that. Not that I'd have the patience :whistle:
PS. You could've just started a new thread you know.
And yes, you should be entitled to a car courtesy of VW, though personally I think you should take up Mr W's offer and run his car in properly for a while... :grin: :grin:
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Cheer up grumpy pants!
So, we've had a few hints that the GTI might be going soon - did you get a private sale on it Fraulein B?
Someone will have a really good car there (kerbed wheels aside) :laugh: :kiss:
The R will be worth the wait, I can guarantee you that. Not that I'd have the patience :whistle:
PS. You could've just started a new thread you know.
And yes, you should be entitled to a car courtesy of VW, though personally I think you should take up Mr W's offer and run his car in properly for a while... :grin: :grin:
Ah, I'm not really such a grumpy pants Mr Ex. :smiley: Just seem to spend a lot of time placating and reasurring others atm; work, home, etc, but vice versa, it's in short supply. Anyway,
There may be a potential sale on the horizon, via this forum.
I didn't think my self indulgent moaning warranted it's own new whinge thread :laugh:
I think Mr W values his alloys too much to risk it :laugh: If needs be I have use of other vehicle for some of the time (a Mitsubishi Warrior pickup - don't say anything), but I might follow up the courtesy car route if needs be later on.
Carefree cheerfulness will now resume :cool:
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Keep smiling Ms. B
(At least Warriors have kerb friendly wheels and tyres)
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Keep smiling Ms. B
(At least Warriors have kerb friendly wheels and tyres)
:smiley:
Sod's Law, I won't go anywhere near a kerb in the Warrior. Will be liberating to drive a vehicle I don't care about, nor will it get a clean :laugh:
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Keep smiling Ms. B
(At least Warriors have kerb friendly wheels and tyres)
:smiley:
Sod's Law, I won't go anywhere near a kerb in the Warrior. Will be liberating to drive a vehicle I don't care about, nor will it get a clean :laugh:
I don't believe that for a minute!! :grin:
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Keep smiling Ms. B
(At least Warriors have kerb friendly wheels and tyres)
:smiley:
Sod's Law, I won't go anywhere near a kerb in the Warrior. Will be liberating to drive a vehicle I don't care about, nor will it get a clean :laugh:
I don't believe that for a minute!! :grin:
Believe it! I'm not wasting my precious detailing stuff on the redneck monstrosity. It'll be lucky to get a quick blast with the jet washer if I'm feeling generous :laugh:
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My GTD has arrived at the dealer - has taken 13 weeks in total, was quoted 19 originally so that's good news. Will sit there until September 65 registration as planned.
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My GTD has arrived at the dealer - has taken 13 weeks in total, was quoted 19 originally so that's good news. Will sit there until September 65 registration as planned.
That is very quick, and great news for you :smiley: Makes sense to hang on for the '65 plate.
My wait will be 36 weeks from order, if it comes end Sept, if not even longer. Patience is a virtue, don't they say??