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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Exonian on 03 April 2016, 10:19
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My phone has just rudely notified me that the memory is almost full so I had a quick look to see how many hundreds of duplicated photos can be deleted off it.
I then came across a pic of the first demo mk7 GTI I saw in a dealership, one of the launch models minus a radar.
A quick look at the date on the pic and it was May 2013 - nearly three years ago already!
That brought home the fact there's going to be an awful lot of PCP's and leases coming to an end this year, not to mention warranties and general owner boredom.
Therefore I decided it's time to resurrect the "what next?" thread that was much used in the mk6 section a few years ago.
oh, and here's a pic of the demo GTI
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o560/Exonian22/null.jpg) (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/Exonian22/media/null.jpg.html)
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I'll probably be looking at a Mk 10 GTI judging by the length of time I owned my last car :laugh:
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My phone has just rudely notified me that the memory is almost full so I had a quick look to see how many hundreds of duplicated photos can be deleted off it.
I then came across a pic of the first demo mk7 GTI I saw in a dealership, one of the launch models minus a radar.
A quick look at the date on the pic and it was May 2013 - nearly three years ago already!
That brought home the fact there's going to be an awful lot of PCP's and leases coming to an end this year, not to mention warranties and general owner boredom.
Therefore I decided it's time to resurrect the "what next?" thread that was much used in the mk6 section a few years ago.
oh, and here's a pic of the demo GTI
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o560/Exonian22/null.jpg) (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/Exonian22/media/null.jpg.html)
That reminds me of when I was getting some work done on my CC and my wife dropped me in to collect it in her 6 month old Mk6 GTi and we both looked at one and my wife said, dam that makes mine look old.
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Waiting to see what the Mk8 GTI looks like. If it's a munter (like the Mk6) then I'll look at the Tiguan R-Line for something 'a bit' different. Gotta see what it looks like the flesh first though.
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That reminds me of when I was getting some work done on my CC and my wife dropped me in to collect it in her 6 month old Mk6 GTi and we both looked at one and my wife said, dam that makes mine look old.
There was a mk6 R cabrio parked next to the GTI (out of shot) and the first thing I thought was how far the mk7's wheels sit into the arches.
Thankfully I usually have a stock of wheels and spacers to fix that!
Waiting to see what the Mk8 GTI looks like. If it's a munter (like the Mk6) then I'll look at the Tiguan R-Line for something 'a bit' different. Gotta see what it looks like the flesh first though.
Tall cars and pseudo SUV's seem to be all the rage at the moment and I can see a lot of Golf owners move to Tiguans. The new ones are pretty handsome cars. Even I could be persuaded by a 240 TDI.
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I'll definitely be keeping the R until i've seen what the MK8 performance models look like - i'm expecting a minor facelift effect like the MK6 was to the MK5 (but hopefully not taking a nice looking model like the MK5 and uglifying it like they did with the MK6). If they don't hit it with the ugly stick and there's the option of the biturbo TDI in a variant at least 240ps, I could see myself going back to the black pump with a MK8.
All the above would be dependent on not getting screwed over on the residuals front with my R if dieselgate is still having effect.
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Ford Focus RS. Not a Golf but it will scratch the itch i still have for RS Fords. Sad to say but the Fords I've owned and the dealers involved have always been spot on and never anything other than efficient and driver focused. Loving the GTI so will keep it until renewal time. Too much negativity towards / from VW / customer service to reinvest big money again.
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I dropped a clanger,I should have kept the mk5 gti instead of trading it for a mk6 as they are the same platform underneath.
If mk8 has the same platform I will probably wait as this mk 7 is a gem.
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I will keep my current MK7 GTD for at least 2 years before i decide which direction i'm going to go.
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2 more years on my lease so will wait to see what the MK8 will be like. Hopefully RenaultSport will develop the new Megane RS by then and hopefully it will not be more expensive than the MK8 so might pull the trigger on one. Until then I will continue enjoying my PP GTI and the non-resonated Remus quad exhaust.
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I will keep my current MK7 GTD for at least 2 years before i decide which direction i'm going to go.
Much the same here.Bought it new in September.Will give it 3 years,use my 3 year service plan.See how it goes.Probably keep it till it's 5.But nothing is set in stone. :smiley:
It's a fantastic all rounder,best of both worlds.
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Seeing as I'm on my 3rd Golf gti in a row, I should prob get something different. Never say never tho lol! :-)
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Still haven't sold the MK5 - 9 years, 2 cam belt changes but only 29k so far!
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I'd love to think that it will be something with more than four cylinders. As much as I love Golfs I'm now on to my 8th, and I really feel like I should experience something different.
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Just ordered a Golf R to replace my 2013 GTI PP :)
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Initially the M2 was going to replace the R, given the residuals at the moment I am going to keep it for another year as my daily
Any future VWs are likely to be rented
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Initially the M2 was going to replace the R, given the residuals at the moment I am going to keep it for another year as my daily
Any future VWs are likely to be rented
That's exactly why I'm considering leasing for the first time ever. VW are still flooding the market with R's just now so go knows what the trade in prices will be for those who have purchased them
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I sold my MK6 GTI a few weeks ago so looking for a replacement.
Was heading to a S3 saloon but they are now delayed as there is a facelift coming and orders have been frozen.
Been driving GTIs for 25 years so thought it was time for a change.
Driving my Mums 1.4TSI MK7 until something comes along.
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That's exactly why I'm considering leasing for the first time ever. VW are still flooding the market with R's just now so go knows what the trade in prices will be for those who have purchased them
In reality I cannot see the point of trading it in, its 2 years old and done 24k and i am changing for the sake of change as I'd sendup with something newer but not as good
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That's exactly why I'm considering leasing for the first time ever. VW are still flooding the market with R's just now so go knows what the trade in prices will be for those who have purchased them
In reality I cannot see the point of trading it in, its 2 years old and done 24k and i am changing for the sake of change as I'd sendup with something newer but not as good
Absolutely mate, well worth keeping it. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the M2. Just love the look of that car and I think it will hold its value brilliantly
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Mine is due for change late October and have to choose by May so cannot look at future options though would happily stay with my GTD till the MK 8 came out if it was my choice.
My choice has narrowed significantly as been around the garages and looked at Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Lexus and VW in last week.
BMW: Interiors are better than last time looked at them but styling just does not grab me - (Having read the M2 comments, then if not need 5 door and could afford one, then yes, its an exception! :cool:)
Mercedes: Claustrophobic interiors do it for me.
Lexus: Nice enough but again just do not grab me internally or externally
Audi: Need 5 door but still struggle a little with Sportback styling though Black Edition White Quattro STronic was being considered but the cost of extras for what like as standard has me excluding given I was 50-50 anyway
So am down to three cars from VW
1. Golf R - Having a damn it to economy period and thumbs up to just enjoying a 300 BHP 4WD and main thing pondering is the colour which is between Black (Rebecca photos give a good case) White (Like the contrast on features) and Lapiz (Iconic R colour) - Extras: Pretoria, DCC, Winter Pack, Key-less, Car Play
2/3: GTI (PP) in CSG or Tiguan R Line (really like it, but it will be a comfortable sensible drive and not sure ready for that yet and R gives me that and whole lot more)
So have the choice of some pretty good marque and have openly looked, wanting to be wowed and have head turned but its all been a bit of 'meh' really as walked around the garages and thinking is the R is likely the only car that in my range that would excite me beyond the experience have now with the GTD in the price and model range that selecting in
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I'll probably keep my GTI until early next year, but I'm afraid to say my next car won't be a VW. I need something bigger than a Golf and there isn't anything else in the VW range that grabs me. If they did the Passat with the 300bhp R motor, I'd be interested but it's diesel only as far as reasonable power is concerned and the dirty fuel option is a no-go for me.
I'll probably change it for a BMW and either go for a 340i M-Sport Touring, or a 440i Gran Coupe.
That said, I've just put some Michelin PS4 tyres on the GTI and it's totally transformed it. I still love the car so have no problem in keeping it until the end of term (March 2018) if need be.
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I'll probably keep my GTI until early next year, but I'm afraid to say my next car won't be a VW. I need something bigger than a Golf and there isn't anything else in the VW range that grabs me. If they did the Passat with the 300bhp R motor, I'd be interested but it's diesel only as far as reasonable power is concerned and the dirty fuel option is a no-go for me.
I'll probably change it for a BMW and either go for a 340i M-Sport Touring, or a 440i Gran Coupe.
That said, I've just put some Michelin PS4 tyres on the GTI and it's totally transformed it. I still love the car so have no problem in keeping it until the end of term (March 2018) if need be.
Is there a huge gulf in size between a Passat and a Golf estate?
I was thinking Golf R estate/variant.
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If you don't want a diesel then a 330d is a no go but I cant recommend it enough, its by far the best all round car I have ever owned.
Just done a 1000 mile round trip to cornwall this last week and averaged 48 mpg, with 0-60 performance of 5.6 secs and way more torque than any hot hatch its a brilliant daily driver and can keep up with pretty much most things on the road once moving..
Some very good deals on 3 series at the moment as well, petrol and diesel
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There's a BMW just down the road from me at the moment that looks ok but I've no idea what model it is as what used to be a 3 series 2 door seems to now be a 4 series (I think?) and this looks about the size of a 3 series by maybe a bit shorter and has a fast back profile so only a short boot a bit like the A3 saloon and definitely has four doors. I'd go and have a look but it's raining and also I'd feel a right idiot nosing at the boot of something parked up.
I they did one of those with a huge macho Diesel engine and big wheels I might consider something like that instead of a Golf/Scirocco next.
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Absolutely mate, well worth keeping it. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the M2. Just love the look of that car and I think it will hold its value brilliantly
In reality residuals was not high on the agenda but think it will be ok, i ended up going for one of these as wife depleted my Porsche fund on extras on out new house, just liked the idea of it and wanted RWD and just some really connected steering
I think my R will be quicker but just want the added focus of the BMW, it was never going to be may daily
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I got this recently as I was missing petrol power, I've kept my GTD to go with it for the time being :cool:
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x267/J400uk/s5_2_zpstnrwhl7b.jpg)
The V8 soundtrack is addictive!
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I'll probably keep my GTI until early next year, but I'm afraid to say my next car won't be a VW. I need something bigger than a Golf and there isn't anything else in the VW range that grabs me. If they did the Passat with the 300bhp R motor, I'd be interested but it's diesel only as far as reasonable power is concerned and the dirty fuel option is a no-go for me.
I'll probably change it for a BMW and either go for a 340i M-Sport Touring, or a 440i Gran Coupe.
That said, I've just put some Michelin PS4 tyres on the GTI and it's totally transformed it. I still love the car so have no problem in keeping it until the end of term (March 2018) if need be.
Is there a huge gulf in size between a Passat and a Golf estate?
I was thinking Golf R estate/variant.
Really don't like the look of the Golf estate. Plus, for the pricing it just doesn't stack up.
Was quoted £490 per month on PCP and a £1,500 deposit for an R Wagon to my spec, but was also quoted £1,500 deposit and £488 per month for a fully loaded 340i M-Sport. The cars are in a different league in my opinion, all for the same price. No brainer as far as I'm concerned.
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There's a BMW just down the road from me at the moment that looks ok but I've no idea what model it is as what used to be a 3 series 2 door seems to now be a 4 series (I think?) and this looks about the size of a 3 series by maybe a bit shorter and has a fast back profile so only a short boot a bit like the A3 saloon and definitely has four doors. I'd go and have a look but it's raining and also I'd feel a right idiot nosing at the boot of something parked up.
I they did one of those with a huge macho Diesel engine and big wheels I might consider something like that instead of a Golf/Scirocco next.
Sounds like a 4 series gran coupe its kind of a 4 series coupe with 4 doors - haven't seen many about but I think they look quite decent and run on 3/4 series mechanicals.. you can get them with the big diesel and petrol engine - 430d, 435d (4wd) and 440i petrol - all 3 litre turbos in different states of tune. 8 speed auto box is an absolute peach with that engine because it pretty much always sits in the max torque area of the engine which is over 400 lb ft for the 330d as a minimum.
A lot of people bang on about how you need X drive (4wd) with the bigger engines, but in my experience that isn't the case because the X drive models run on SE (not lower M sport) suspension only so I bought a RWD 330d and in my view its the best all round model in the range because it handles better, sits a bit lower and uses less juice. I run winter wheels and tyres on it and its as good if not better than 4wd with normal tyres.
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There's a BMW just down the road from me at the moment that looks ok but I've no idea what model it is as what used to be a 3 series 2 door seems to now be a 4 series (I think?) and this looks about the size of a 3 series by maybe a bit shorter and has a fast back profile so only a short boot a bit like the A3 saloon and definitely has four doors. I'd go and have a look but it's raining and also I'd feel a right idiot nosing at the boot of something parked up.
I they did one of those with a huge macho Diesel engine and big wheels I might consider something like that instead of a Golf/Scirocco next.
Would it be this one by any chance? A 4-Series Gran Coupe. Very high on my want list. Big boot thanks to a huge hatchback, and a great standard spec (electronic boot opening, heated electric memory seats, professional navigation, along with all the other BMW lovliness). Go for the £1,900 M-Sport Plus pack and you get HarmannKardon super sound system, M-Sport brakes, Tinted glass and the big wheels.
(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc481/birchyboy87/2014-bmw-4-series_100455788_m_zpsefffxldr.jpg) (http://s1214.photobucket.com/user/birchyboy87/media/2014-bmw-4-series_100455788_m_zpsefffxldr.jpg.html)
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There's a BMW just down the road from me at the moment that looks ok but I've no idea what model it is as what used to be a 3 series 2 door seems to now be a 4 series (I think?) and this looks about the size of a 3 series by maybe a bit shorter and has a fast back profile so only a short boot a bit like the A3 saloon and definitely has four doors. I'd go and have a look but it's raining and also I'd feel a right idiot nosing at the boot of something parked up.
I they did one of those with a huge macho Diesel engine and big wheels I might consider something like that instead of a Golf/Scirocco next.
Sounds like a 4 series gran coupe its kind of a 4 series coupe with 4 doors - haven't seen many about but I think they look quite decent and run on 3/4 series mechanicals.. you can get them with the big diesel and petrol engine - 430d, 435d (4wd) and 440i petrol - all 3 litre turbos in different states of tune. 8 speed auto box is an absolute peach with that engine because it pretty much always sits in the max torque area of the engine which is over 400 lb ft for the 330d as a minimum.
A lot of people bang on about how you need X drive (4wd) with the bigger engines, but in my experience that isn't the case because the X drive models run on SE (not lower M sport) suspension only so I bought a RWD 330d and in my view its the best all round model in the range because it handles better, sits a bit lower and uses less juice. I run winter wheels and tyres on it and its as good if not better than 4wd with normal tyres.
^^ Exactly that. I'm not a fan of xDrive on the saloon cars at all. Really compromises the handling.
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Yep that will be it..
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1177508&highlight=estoril+%26amp%3B+saddle+leather
here is a link to my car I picked up for anyone interested. At least BWM are now doing some more interesting colour options for the leather rather than just grey and black which used to annoy me with Audi..
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Yep that will be it..
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1177508&highlight=estoril+%26amp%3B+saddle+leather
here is a link to my car I picked up for anyone interested. At least BWM are now doing some more interesting colour options for the leather rather than just grey and black which used to annoy me with Audi..
That's gorgeous Drisser, love the saddle leather!
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@JBirchy and drisser: Yes! That's the one, a 4 series coupe. I went on Coast2coast's website and specced one up and even with discount it was heading near to £40k which for what you get ain't bad when you consider a GTI Clubsport or an R can easily get near those figures but still out of my budget by a fair amount.
Those 3.0 BMW turbodiesels have always appealed to me and the coupe styling does it for me but possibly not at £40k.
A lightly used second hand one though... ?
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Liking the look of a new Deep Black Pearl Tiguan R Line Tdi150 4Motion :cool:
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I may well rent a R Estate for a couple of years having received some of the deals today, in fairness i said i'd never own 35 and did and i am uncool and a hypocrite :grin:
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I may well rent a R Estate for a couple of years having received some of the deals today, in fairness i said i'd never own 35 and did and i am uncool and a hypocrite :grin:
seen this deal for the r estate :smiley: you might find it cheaper though
https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/68430/volkswagen/golf/20_tsi_r_5dr_dsg.html
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I may well rent a R Estate for a couple of years having received some of the deals today, in fairness i said i'd never own 35 and did and i am uncool and a hypocrite :grin:
seen this deal for the r estate :smiley: you might find it cheaper though
https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/68430/volkswagen/golf/20_tsi_r_5dr_dsg.html
Yes a couple have popped up today in the in box
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I may well rent a R Estate for a couple of years having received some of the deals today, in fairness i said i'd never own 35 and did and i am uncool and a hypocrite :grin:
seen this deal for the r estate :smiley: you might find it cheaper though
https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/68430/volkswagen/golf/20_tsi_r_5dr_dsg.html
Yes a couple have popped up today in the in box
http://www.horizonvehicleleasing.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf-estate/golf-estate-20-tsi-r-5dr-dsg-73216159
Bit cheaper?
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Another MK7 and another GTD. Yeah I know safe etc. but to be honest, the current GTD has been such a great all rounder, that having the same again for another 2 years ish isn't a bad thing, and to be honest, the MK7 is a nice place to be and there isn't really that much in the same class that really floats my boat.
Sure I looked at the R and actually ordered a GTI (before my projected annual mileage changed) but again they would have been MK7's.
I do like the look of the 2 series BMW, but we really need at least one 5 door in the family (my wife has the 3 door), and I also like the look of the new Tiguan, but there's no way I'm going to be a first adopter like I was on the GTD (and waited the best part of a year for delivery). I'll wait two years for the Tiguan range to "mature" and then have another look and see what else is around.
So it looks like I'm going to be on here a while longer then :smiley:
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Ignore - wrong thread doh - still not awake !
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The revised S3 looks like an interesting proposition. LED headlights as standard, an extra 10bhp, the new TFT screen which is standard in the TT, plus a few changes to the front.
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I'm really swaying towards an RS3 after keeping the R for a good while longer. Even a low mileage used one.
The thing that puts me off is how much you'd have to add in spec.
A bit like the ClubSport GTI, I have a feeling it would be a very spec dependant car to make the best of it. At which point although the resale % values look good in pure £££ lost I'm sure it'd be a bit painful.
On the other hand, the forthcoming up! TSI really appeals to me as I reckon a lightly modified one would be a real hoot to drive. Memories of my old G40 Polo and a Lupo GTI I had on loan bring a smile to my face.
Running one of those for commuting and just hiring a car for holidays would save me a packet.
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I also have to say that I'm really liking the look of the new mx5 hardtop. I wouldn't buy one as my daily as completely impractical but it looks a hoot to drive and its got some lovely curves.
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/53A5B9CC-3362-4F91-B535-E3BB1B12B4A2.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/53A5B9CC-3362-4F91-B535-E3BB1B12B4A2.jpg.html)
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I may well rent a R Estate for a couple of years having received some of the deals today, in fairness i said i'd never own 35 and did and i am uncool and a hypocrite :grin:
wigit, you hypocrite. :grin: Still if they are that cheap?
Finally saw my first R Estate last week in Sainsburys' car park. :sick: Even cheap, I wouldn't have one.
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I also have to say that I'm really liking the look of the new mx5 hardtop. I wouldn't buy one as my daily as completely impractical but it looks a hoot to drive and its got some lovely curves.
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/53A5B9CC-3362-4F91-B535-E3BB1B12B4A2.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/53A5B9CC-3362-4F91-B535-E3BB1B12B4A2.jpg.html)
I saw a video of this on a newspaper app a couple of weeks ago . Awesome car if 2 seats is enough.
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nobody fancying the mustang then?
i know she'll handle like a dog but i do thinks shes beautiful :smiley:
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/cf10427b7a49de54ae090b14d8889fcf/tumblr_nnyrlgfdAO1ruvjh3o1_1280.jpg)
and not much in it in terms of price either
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I may well rent a R Estate for a couple of years having received some of the deals today, in fairness i said i'd never own 35 and did and i am uncool and a hypocrite :grin:
wigit, you hypocrite. :grin: Still if they are that cheap?
Finally saw my first R Estate last week in Sainsburys' car park. :sick: Even cheap, I wouldn't have one.
These R estates must be for personal market and so chosen! as hardly make any sense for any business or anyone on company benefit for medium to high mileage.
Saw one up close last week in car park for the gym and :sick: it really does the R badge no justice at all and just seems square peg in round hole. Wonder how many they will sale?
Still pretty much set on choosing a proper R over a GTI, A3 (though face lift is decent) and Tiguan and reason is summed up well by the CarWow quote
"If you’re the sort of person who needs an everyday car that you can still have fun with, the GTI is a better choice. However, if you’re an adrenaline junkie who likes to embarrass sports car owners away from the lights, get the R. You only live once, after all!"
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oorrrr the lexus RC, as you can see im leaning towards a long coupe style next :D
(http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/2016-Lexus-RC200t_15.jpg)
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oorrrr the lexus RC, as you can see im leaning towards a long coupe style next :D
(http://s3.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/2016-Lexus-RC200t_15.jpg)
Was out as a passenger in one of them last week as colleague just got one and its a really nice car and the hybrid is decent you stealthily creep around at a good pace in town and acceleration is decent too as he demonstrated BUT was not personally taken by the interior and as much as he loved the media/nav system it looked pretty average to me, and the timex center piece is pretty naff - Overall its a decent car and you would not be unhappy with performance, economy and style but did not leave me feeling that wanted one at all.
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nah ill pass on the hybrid, id be getting the new turbo one, im test driving it for 24hr next thursday but in the IS guise, its 245bhp with a twinscroll so i am hoping (if i go that route) that there is some tuning headroom
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nobody fancying the mustang then?
i know she'll handle like a dog but i do thinks shes beautiful :smiley:
and not much in it in terms of price either
Yeah, I fancy one.
I just couldn't afford the running costs!
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I'm hoping it won't be too dissimilar to my Gti tbh, it'll be the turbo I'd be going for like
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Once you hear that V8 though...
One drove past me in a car park the other day, it was really funny, all the blokes just stopped and stared and I saw a few Windows get wound down to cop an earful of the noise! Definitely a mans type of car as the women barely paid any attention to it.
The lad driving it hardly looked 20 years old.
I'm late 40s so would probably look a bit of a tit driving one but I sure do love them. Not keen on the standard wheels though. Knowing Ford there's a raft of upgrades available.
If I was ten years younger...
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nobody fancying the mustang then?
i know she'll handle like a dog but i do thinks shes beautiful :smiley:
and not much in it in terms of price either
Yeah, I fancy one.
I just couldn't afford the running costs!
The running costs aren't that bad actually, you'd be surprised. Plus that sound :evil:
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its the tax i have a problem with, its ridiculous
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nobody fancying the mustang then?
i know she'll handle like a dog but i do thinks shes beautiful :smiley:
and not much in it in terms of price either
Yeah, I fancy one.
I just couldn't afford the running costs!
The running costs aren't that bad actually, you'd be surprised. Plus that sound :evil:
Ok, I'll have to dig into my other book of excuses!
I'm too old for one (probably)
It wouldn't fit in the garage
The dog ate my homework
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nobody fancying the mustang then?
i know she'll handle like a dog but i do thinks shes beautiful :smiley:
and not much in it in terms of price either
Yeah, I fancy one.
I just couldn't afford the running costs!
The running costs aren't that bad actually, you'd be surprised. Plus that sound :evil:
Ok, I'll have to dig into my other book of excuses!
I'm too old for one (probably)
It wouldn't fit in the garage
The dog ate my homework
Age, what you need is one of these:
(http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/redneck_cap-r2febdf8ca8bf41e59110477b0875ce5b_v9wf1_8byvr_324.jpg)
Garage, what you need is one of these:
(https://www.southerncarparts.com/images/Covercraft/Corvercraftmustang-carcover-with%20logo.jpg)
Dog, what you need is one of these:
(http://janfennellthedoglistener.com/static/cms/labrador-dog-muzzle-leather.jpg)
Excuses, solved :cool:
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Ok, I'll have to dig into my other book of excuses!
I'm too old for one (probably)
It wouldn't fit in the garage
The dog ate my homework
:grin:
Never too old for any type of car (other than the motors that young boys frequent eg. Corsa)!
Leave it on the driveway for all the neighbours to drool over!
You can copy mine, I did it last night! :laugh:
Edit: GrahamFR answer was much better than mine! :grin:
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Ok, I'll have to dig into my other book of excuses!
I'm too old for one (probably)
It wouldn't fit in the garage
The dog ate my homework
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Never too old for any type of car (other than the motors that young boys frequent eg. Corsa)!
Leave it on the driveway for all the neighbours to drool over!
You can copy mine, I did it last night! :laugh:
Edit: GrahamFR answer was much better than mine! :grin:
Some of my finest responses :wink:
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nobody fancying the mustang then?
i know she'll handle like a dog but i do thinks shes beautiful :smiley:
and not much in it in terms of price either
Yeah, I fancy one.
I just couldn't afford the running costs!
The running costs aren't that bad actually, you'd be surprised. Plus that sound :evil:
Ok, I'll have to dig into my other book of excuses!
I'm too old for one (probably)
It wouldn't fit in the garage
The dog ate my homework
Age, what you need is one of these:
(http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/redneck_cap-r2febdf8ca8bf41e59110477b0875ce5b_v9wf1_8byvr_324.jpg)
Garage, what you need is one of these:
(https://www.southerncarparts.com/images/Covercraft/Corvercraftmustang-carcover-with%20logo.jpg)
Dog, what you need is one of these:
(http://janfennellthedoglistener.com/static/cms/labrador-dog-muzzle-leather.jpg)
Excuses, solved :cool:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Right, where do I sign!
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Once you hear that V8 though...
One drove past me in a car park the other day, it was really funny, all the blokes just stopped and stared and I saw a few Windows get wound down to cop an earful of the noise! Definitely a mans type of car as the women barely paid any attention to it.
The lad driving it hardly looked 20 years old.
I'm late 40s so would probably look a bit of a tit driving one but I sure do love them. Not keen on the standard wheels though. Knowing Ford there's a raft of upgrades available.
If I was ten years younger...
Hired one in Hawaii last month - didnt think the V8 rumble was as good in the car as I had had hoped. Still attracted attention - with the roof down of course.....
My dogs wont fit or I would be mighty tempted - of course the 12 month waiting list puts me off too! wait a year, run for 6 months sounds a bad combination...
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Once you hear that V8 though...
One drove past me in a car park the other day, it was really funny, all the blokes just stopped and stared and I saw a few Windows get wound down to cop an earful of the noise! Definitely a mans type of car as the women barely paid any attention to it.
The lad driving it hardly looked 20 years old.
I'm late 40s so would probably look a bit of a tit driving one but I sure do love them. Not keen on the standard wheels though. Knowing Ford there's a raft of upgrades available.
If I was ten years younger...
Hired one in Hawaii last month - didnt think the V8 rumble was as good in the car as I had had hoped. Still attracted attention - with the roof down of course.....
My dogs wont fit or I would be mighty tempted - of course the 12 month waiting list puts me off too! wait a year, run for 6 months sounds a bad combination...
12 months??
I'd be lusting after something else by the time it turned up - I have a very short attention span! :whistle:
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speaking of the devil, VW just rang me up to offer me £500 on a new ed40 with a june/july delivery. Too soon for me tho, i havent finished playing with this one yet
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12 months??
I'd be lusting after something else by the time it turned up - I have a very short attention span! :whistle:
Me too - I normally buy stock cars as I cant wait for a normal factory order!
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12 months??
I'd be lusting after something else by the time it turned up - I have a very short attention span! :whistle:
Me too - I normally buy stock cars as I cant wait for a normal factory order!
I loose interest even before I've got to the dealer. I have an incredibly short attenti
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12 months??
I'd be lusting after something else by the time it turned up - I have a very short attention span! :whistle:
Me too - I normally buy stock cars as I cant wait for a normal factory order!
I loose interest even before I've got to the dealer. I have an incredibly short attenti
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Some things my next car will definitely have :
A) 4wd, won't go back to the torque steer and wheel spin launches.
B) a better stereo than the standard mk7 (disco pro)
C) > 300bhp?
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Great thread to have up. My PCP ends in sept. Want to move away from the diesel as I'm not doing enough mileage to justify theGTD ownership. That said saw a 330d msport similar to the one in this thread and it turned my head but my local BMW showroom would know good customer service if it dances around naked in front of the sales staff.
Ideally, as the family will be growing soon, I will need to stay in a 5 door and I would like something that is quick. Thought about an s3 but I don't really like the look of the sports back. The saloon looks better IMO but the order books have been frozen.
Been doing the sums and with some cheap lease deals about it could be cheaper to lease than PCP.
I've been looking at some left field cats too saw some cheap deals on a R line Taureg and GLE Estate and it got me thinking about 4x4s.
Decisions decisions decisions.
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Great thread to have up. My PCP ends in sept. Want to move away from the diesel as I'm not doing enough mileage to justify theGTD ownership. That said saw a 330d msport similar to the one in this thread and it turned my head but my local BMW showroom would know good customer service if it dances around naked in front of the sales staff.
Ideally, as the family will be growing soon, I will need to stay in a 5 door and I would like something that is quick. Thought about an s3 but I don't really like the look of the sports back. The saloon looks better IMO but the order books have been frozen.
Been doing the sums and with some cheap lease deals about it could be cheaper to lease than PCP.
I've been looking at some left field cats too saw some cheap deals on a R line Taureg and GLE Estate and it got me thinking about 4x4s.
Decisions decisions decisions.
Three of those four look to be Diesels!
A rented cheap R estate would cover several of your requirements but ain't the prettiest. Having said that, as a fast workhorse that you won't shed too many tears over when they come to collect it in two years it's hard to beat.
The S3 saloon is a handsome car it has to be said.
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Exonian I know :grin: always liked the idea of owning a suv. Won't hapoen though. I live in the wilderness that is inner city Birmingham & I would find it hard to justify.
I'm not a fan of the r estate it's just wrong Imo.
The s3 saloon is nice but will need a good level of kit to match the current gtd Which would inevitably take the cost to buy up plus orders are on hold.
I did see an rs3 offer the other day on vehicle savers yesterday!
Anyone been in the hybrid 3 series?
The motor that I would love but with young family makes it prohibitive Is an m3 saloon.
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Exonian I know :grin: always liked the idea of owning a suv. Won't hapoen though. I live in the wilderness that is inner city Birmingham & I would find it hard to justify.
I'm not a fan of the r estate it's just wrong Imo.
The s3 saloon is nice but will need a good level of kit to match the current gtd Which would inevitably take the cost to buy up plus orders are on hold.
I did see an rs3 offer the other day on vehicle savers yesterday!
Anyone been in the hybrid 3 series?
The motor that I would love but with young family makes it prohibitive Is an m3 saloon.
Do not have little ones anymore but still carry passengers a high % of the time and having been stubborn and stayed to 3 door previously the relent to selecting 5 door and hassle it removes means that for now at least 5 door is a must and that does really narrow the cars you could choose with some great cars dismissed immediately.
The R is still top of my list but the new face lift A3 S Line 187bhp Quattro (STronic) will now get a look
Had dismissed the A3 but that was with no knowledge of the face lift which from first impressions really like, its just a little sharper, so it will really depend on the the bolt on options? especially the virtual cockpit
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Yep. I have a 3yo in a car seat and one on the way so family days out (most weekends) and nursery runs will consist of 2 car seats. I can't have the headache of squeezing a baby seat through a 3 door. Did it previously Don't fancy it again.
If my Mrs passes her test then I can give her a 5 door and go back to 3 doors
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If only the Subaru Levorg came with different engine options.
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Yep. I have a 3yo in a car seat and one on the way so family days out (most weekends) and nursery runs will consist of 2 car seats. I can't have the headache of squeezing a baby seat through a 3 door. Did it previously Don't fancy it again.
If my Mrs passes her test then I can give her a 5 door and go back to 3 doors
Then that's what you need to do - get her passed asap!!
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Yep. I have a 3yo in a car seat and one on the way so family days out (most weekends) and nursery runs will consist of 2 car seats. I can't have the headache of squeezing a baby seat through a 3 door. Did it previously Don't fancy it again.
If my Mrs passes her test then I can give her a 5 door and go back to 3 doors
Then that's what you need to do - get her passed asap!!
I have the same problem, currently got a 3dr GTI PP and not having 5dr is killing my back (literally).
Just put in a order for a 5dr Golf R DSG :)
Also encouraging the missus to learn to drive albeit in a automatic as she tried manual lessons in the past.
The will probably get a VW Tiguan 5dr DSG too.
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Yep. I have a 3yo in a car seat and one on the way so family days out (most weekends) and nursery runs will consist of 2 car seats. I can't have the headache of squeezing a baby seat through a 3 door. Did it previously Don't fancy it again.
If my Mrs passes her test then I can give her a 5 door and go back to 3 doors
Then that's what you need to do - get her passed asap!!
Mate been trying I've given up now. Her provisional has expired. How many people let that happen.
she did say that she needs to learn but she hs did this before so seeing is believing.
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Yep. I have a 3yo in a car seat and one on the way so family days out (most weekends) and nursery runs will consist of 2 car seats. I can't have the headache of squeezing a baby seat through a 3 door. Did it previously Don't fancy it again.
If my Mrs passes her test then I can give her a 5 door and go back to 3 doors
Then that's what you need to do - get her passed asap!!
Mate been trying I've given up now. Her provisional has expired. How many people let that happen.
she did say that she needs to learn but she hs did this before so seeing is believing.
:grin: You're obviously being too nice driving her around all the time! Time for some tough love = 2 seater sports car :laugh:
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That's the thing she is the proud owner of a West Midlands travel bus pass. I just can't be arsed. little ones nursery is a stones throw from my office. Selected on purpose to give the excuse to leave work early :wink:
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That's the thing she is the proud owner of a West Midlands travel bus pass. I just can't be arsed. little ones nursery is a stones throw from my office. Selected on purpose to give the excuse to leave work early :wink:
:grin: I use that very same excuse all the time, indeed I will be using it later on today to leave early as its Friday :cool:
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Well you can't beat them lease them, just ordered a white Estate with winter pack and coming in at £6,800 over two years, got it through my dealer who was competitive.
Deal is stopping today
So will be a three R family until the M2 arrives, Estate will replace the Polo, I will keep my R for another six months and have some fun with it and sell it when the M2 arrives
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If I can get a really good lease deal on an R hatch then that will probably be my next car for a few years. I'm not a massive fan of the R styling but it would suit my circumstances at present (looking to move house this year). Failing that, possibly the S3 or M235I if the deal is right.
Personally, the only way I would go down the R route is via a lease agreement as I would be pretty concerned about the resale values on the R just now
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If I can get a really good lease deal on an R hatch then that will probably be my next car for a few years. I'm not a massive fan of the R styling but it would suit my circumstances at present (looking to move house this year). Failing that, possibly the S3 or M235I if the deal is right.
Personally, the only way I would go down the R route is via a lease agreement as I would be pretty concerned about the resale values on the R just now
I lost loads on my R Craig, so leasing is very sensible.
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Well you can't beat them lease them, just ordered a white Estate with winter pack and coming in at £6,800 over two years, got it through my dealer who was competitive.
Deal is stopping today
So will be a three R family until the M2 arrives, Estate will replace the Polo, I will keep my R for another six months and have some fun with it and sell it when the M2 arrives
WHen are you getting the M2 wigit ? Did you spec a final order yet ? My local dealers first car comes in June so am going to see it when its there.. My build slot is one of the 2 available in 2017 as I am no great hurry but it doesn't seem to look like there will be many demo's around - look forward to some feedback ! The thing I like is the basic spec is pretty much all I would want as manual is for sure how I would go, Prof Nav and Xenons std, no choices on trim or wheels so I would probably only add heated seats and maybe sunroof, probably Mineral Grey as I reckon LBB will be nice but very popular and need to see it in the flesh. I asked about individual colours as I fancied Valencia Orange but its a no go due to the factory..
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Order is based on LBB with DCT, Harmon Kardon, heated seats, folding mirrors and folding rear seat
I have seen a few LBB and AW in flesh and likely to go MG (local dealer has one in next week so I will take some pictures), then that it to some carbon goodies and the three way coilies
I also wanted Valencia Orange
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Craig if you come across any good deals let me know as it may be worthwhile for now in the short term with my change of circumstance.
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Craig if you come across any good deals let me know as it may be worthwhile for now in the short term with my change of circumstance.
Will do mate :smiley: :smiley:
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Interesting on the dark side a few people are not having Estate applications now honoured by VW, poor show if you ask me, we'll see what happens to mine but if they do alas final nail in the VW coffin for me
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I've been driving a CLS350 shooting brake today and with airmatic suspension and combined with the engine it is rather nice.
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Interesting on the dark side a few people are not having Estate applications now honoured by VW, poor show if you ask me, we'll see what happens to mine but if they do alas final nail in the VW coffin for me
Unfortunately brokers have taken orders from customer they couldn't get cars for.
The cheap lease deals were on on specific factory scheduled build weeks.....not on any freshly placed factory orders.
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I see CVL are doing the Polo GTI for £79.99 + VAT on a 24 month contract.
Not a bad run around until something else comes along.
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I see CVL are doing the Polo GTI for £79.99 + VAT on a 24 month contract.
Not a bad run around until something else comes along.
they have the scirocco for 10quid more :smiley:
https://www.centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/vehicle/choose_your_lease/69371/volkswagen/scirocco/20_tsi_180_bluemotion_tech_gt_3dr.html
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I see CVL are doing the Polo GTI for £79.99 + VAT on a 24 month contract.
Not a bad run around until something else comes along.
About £270 a month if you PCP'd it over the same term and mileage!
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Interesting on the dark side a few people are not having Estate applications now honoured by VW, poor show if you ask me, we'll see what happens to mine but if they do alas final nail in the VW coffin for me
Unfortunately brokers have taken orders from customer they couldn't get cars for.
The cheap lease deals were on on specific factory scheduled build weeks.....not on any freshly placed factory orders.
I have to admit i did not warm to any of the Lease Companies so went via my dealer group so we shall see, i learnt a lot time ago where ever possible cut out the middle man
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Interesting on the dark side a few people are not having Estate applications now honoured by VW, poor show if you ask me, we'll see what happens to mine but if they do alas final nail in the VW coffin for me
CVL told me the allocation had sold out in under two hours and there are a lot of disappointed customers which they are having to deal with.
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Are you saying that the R estate has sold beyond VW's plans?
No offence to anyone here, but really???
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Are you saying that the R estate has sold beyond VW's plans?
No offence to anyone here, but really???
I don't think they sold any so did another run of cheap lease deals for a limited production batch.
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I see CVL are doing the Polo GTI for £79.99 + VAT on a 24 month contract.
Not a bad run around until something else comes along.
Or £196 a month in real money including the huge deposit. Doesn't sound quite so enticing as £79.99 + VAT, better than PCP, not quite so good as a cash deal + best discounts, especially if you have any options (which you'll probably need on the Polo, it's not as well equipped as the Golf as standard.
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Trouble with a leased Polo GTI it is a poverty essentially spec Polo with checked seats and a 1.8 engine, you do have to hit the options list hard on them
I toyed with one to replace the Blue GT and in reality just didn't see the point
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I took my car to the VW/Audi dealer this morning and had a sit in a blue RS6 Avant,£85k's worth- wow!
Also a white 5 door RS3 specced at £51k! Lovely car but 51k,a lot of cash for a hatch.
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I took my car to the VW/Audi dealer this morning and had a sit in a blue RS6 Avant,£85k's worth- wow!
Also a white 5 door RS3 specced at £51k! Lovely car but 51k,a lot of cash for a hatch.
I looked at the Audi RS3 but my spec was coming out at a cool £53k.
The Golf R is enough for me :)
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Trouble with a leased Polo GTI it is a poverty essentially spec Polo with checked seats and a 1.8 engine, you do have to hit the options list hard on them
I toyed with one to replace the Blue GT and in reality just didn't see the point
You just have to treat it as an old school GTI. Big engine, light bodyshell, less toys, more driver involvement. Basically what the ClubSport should have been too.
Golf GTI's, R's etc are all heavily specced from the factory as standard but you don't need a lot of that kit. VW are just obliged to put it in to keep the spec competitive with rival marques.
People have become too soft, piddling about with menus and sub menus, there shouldn't be any need for most of it. They're drivers cars.
Climb in a mk5 GTI now and you realise that it had just enough kit as standard and was high on driver involvement without too much electronic frippery.
I took my car to the VW/Audi dealer this morning and had a sit in a blue RS6 Avant,£85k's worth- wow!
Also a white 5 door RS3 specced at £51k! Lovely car but 51k,a lot of cash for a hatch.
I looked at the Audi RS3 but my spec was coming out at a cool £53k.
The Golf R is enough for me :)
I ran one up on the configurator this week, stuck to Nardo, standard wheels (as I'd go aftermarket anyway) and just a few cheap options as it's fairly well equipped out of the box and it was £41k I think.
Once my R has lost a bit more value which won't be too long into the future it could potentially go in part ex (as I think Audi allow big PCP deposits) I'd just have to look after the monthlies.
At that point I came to my senses thinking about the £££ depreciation involved and instead started daydreaming about VW up! TSI's !!! :laugh:
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Trouble with a leased Polo GTI it is a poverty essentially spec Polo with checked seats and a 1.8 engine, you do have to hit the options list hard on them
I toyed with one to replace the Blue GT and in reality just didn't see the point
You just have to treat it as an old school GTI. Big engine, light bodyshell, less toys, more driver involvement. Basically what the ClubSport should have been too.
Golf GTI's, R's etc are all heavily specced from the factory as standard but you don't need a lot of that kit. VW are just obliged to put it in to keep the spec competitive with rival marques.
People have become too soft, piddling about with menus and sub menus, there shouldn't be any need for most of it. They're drivers cars.
Climb in a mk5 GTI now and you realise that it had just enough kit as standard and was high on driver involvement without too much electronic frippery.
I took my car to the VW/Audi dealer this morning and had a sit in a blue RS6 Avant,£85k's worth- wow!
Also a white 5 door RS3 specced at £51k! Lovely car but 51k,a lot of cash for a hatch.
I looked at the Audi RS3 but my spec was coming out at a cool £53k.
The Golf R is enough for me :)
I ran one up on the configurator this week, stuck to Nardo, standard wheels (as I'd go aftermarket anyway) and just a few cheap options as it's fairly well equipped out of the box and it was £41k I think.
Once my R has lost a bit more value which won't be too long into the future it could potentially go in part ex (as I think Audi allow big PCP deposits) I'd just have to look after the monthlies.
At that point I came to my senses thinking about the £££ depreciation involved and instead started daydreaming about VW up! TSI's !!! :laugh:
There's not a lot essential on a car but plenty you'd expect these days. As a self confessed options tightarse there are a few things I would really miss on a car:-
Electric windows (everything but a bottom-end Dacia has these now)
DAB Radio and USB/SD card connectivity for the tunes
Aircon
Auto wipers and lights
Xenons/LEDs (although I didn't treat the wife's A1 to S-line spec or optioned lights)
Autodimming rear-view mirror
Multifunction steering wheel
That sounds a lot when listed!
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100% with you there MH and I'll add electrically adjusted mirrors and power steering as I remember driving mk1 and mk2 GTI's without either and it was a real chore!
I think every car comes with PAS now but you'd not think it by the amount of people that cut corners at junctions then look at you as if you have no right to be breathing the same air.
Oh and ABS brakes. But they're a legal requirement now anyway.
My other car has no ABS and I'm always wary in the wet.
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When I get to the end of my PCP I will be looking at the Megane RS 275 Trophy, I have been toying with going back to a Cayman S now the flat 6 looks like its being fazed out in the smaller cars, and if i kept it long enough its value will bottom out, but i can't get away from the convenience of a hot Hatch with lots of driver involvement. The GTi PP ticks the box i guess, as its a bit less tied down and lighter compared to the R with the 4WD, but The Megane is considered the benchmark for tests, so I think it would be rude not to test drive one.
But the Megane doesn't hold value well enough, and I doubt my man maths can make it work...
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Was not planning this as have expensive year ahead with saving money for my Master of Arts Fees for end of the year and new PC workstation for 3D animation, but on seeing Exonians offer for Golf R at VW Exeter I had to give it a try myself.
I am now going in to VW Exeter today to see what they can offer me on an Oryx White Golf R with extras. If the offer is not right then I may just wait until MK8 released. But if it's too good to miss then I may go ahead and shake the guys hand to close the deal. It all depends on the discount he offers (if same as offered to Exonian) and amount Part Ex on my immaculate very low mileage Oryx White GTI PP with all extras (except DCC).
Will keep you posted. :smiley:
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Was not planning this as have expensive year ahead with saving money for my Master of Arts Fees for end of the year and new PC workstation for 3D animation, but on seeing Exonians offer for Golf R at VW Exeter I had to give it a try myself.
I am now going in to VW Exeter today to see what they can offer me on an Oryx White Golf R with extras. If the offer is not right then I may just wait until MK8 released. But if it's too good to miss then I may go ahead and shake the guys hand to close the deal. It all depends on the discount he offers (if same as offered to Exonian) and amount Part Ex on my immaculate very low mileage Oryx White GTI PP with all extras (except DCC).
Will keep you posted. :smiley:
In case you haven't already done so, get a quote off drive the deal as most dealers will match their prices.
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Oh dear God, what have I done! Was not planning on buying a car today, but I got £3K off list price on an Oryx White 5 Dr Golf R with practically all options and projected trade in price for my Gti Pp of £16K. I spent hours getting every last penny out of the dealer before signing the dotted line. i know I could get more out of drive the deal, but this much out of a local dealer is not bad.
I now have a Golf R, 5 Dr, in Oryx White with the following on order:
DCC
Tech Pack
Winter Pack
Rear View Camera
Carbon Mirror Caps
19" Pretoria Wheels
Climate Windscreen
Advanced Telephone Connection
App Connect
Service Plan
4yr Warranty Extension
Oh and another free boot liner tray
Estimated build time is 6mths, September maybe?
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Oh dear God, what have I done! Was not planning on buying a car today, but I got £3K off list price on an Oryx White 5 Dr Golf R with practically all options and projected trade in price for my Gti Pp of £16K. I spent hours getting every last penny out of the dealer before signing the dotted line. i know I could get more out of drive the deal, but this much out of a local dealer is not bad.
I now have a Golf R, 5 Dr, in Oryx White with the following on order:
DCC
Tech Pack
Winter Pack
Rear View Camera
Carbon Mirror Caps
19" Pretoria Wheels
Climate Windscreen
Advanced Telephone Connection
App Connect
Service Plan
4yr Warranty Extension
Oh and another free boot liner tray
Estimated build time is 6mths, September maybe?
Nice one mate, and what a spec :wink:
If you don't mind me asking what kinda figures you paying if Going PCP?
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Oh dear God, what have I done! Was not planning on buying a car today, but I got £3K off list price on an Oryx White 5 Dr Golf R with practically all options and projected trade in price for my Gti Pp of £16K. I spent hours getting every last penny out of the dealer before signing the dotted line. i know I could get more out of drive the deal, but this much out of a local dealer is not bad.
I now have a Golf R, 5 Dr, in Oryx White with the following on order:
DCC
Tech Pack
Winter Pack
Rear View Camera
Carbon Mirror Caps
19" Pretoria Wheels
Climate Windscreen
Advanced Telephone Connection
App Connect
Service Plan
4yr Warranty Extension
Oh and another free boot liner tray
Estimated build time is 6mths, September maybe?
Congratulations, shame you didn't push them to match the Drive The Deal price. As long as your happy it's all good.
Interesting you've been quoted 6 months, I only only placed my order on 25/03/16 and was told 16 weeks.
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Interesting you've been quoted 6 months, I only only placed my order on 25/03/16 and was told 16 weeks.
Dealer allocation?
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Interesting you've been quoted 6 months, I only only placed my order on 25/03/16 and was told 16 weeks.
Dealer allocation?
Not entirely sure, it's still awaiting a scheduled build week, I'm hoping it gets delayed a little so it falls under a MY17 build ;)
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The Golf R will be a factory order, as it's such a high spec and has Oryx White so harder to find a dealer allocation. This may be why it's 6 month wait as well, as it was last time I ordered my GTI PP. If I remember right there were others ordering GTi's after me and getting many months before. I am also paying cash as a lump sum for the Golf R. I tried so hard to get closer to Drive the Deal price butiIt got to a point where I tried to to get them to round down to the nearest thousand from £X265 pounds and after a lot of stubborness on my part I got them to meet me halfway. This was after £3K off. Then for the cheek of it I asked for a free boot liner tray on top before I would sign the dotted line just to make him sweat a bit more. This was just for my amusement as I already have a perfectly fine boot liner tray but a spare would be OK. Apologies to any dealers on this forum.
I know I could get better through Finance and PCP etc,. But I have always saved the money and paid cash for cars, it's just my thing.
However I finally managed to get a Golf R after many years of wishing I could have one. My 3 years on the GTI is up in October so No 3yr Service or MOT to worry about either. I will keep the Golf R longer and probably wait until the MK8 Golf R is released at the least before I think about trading it in.
I also asked the salesman about the Clubsport he was not too keen on it. Probably because he was selling me a Golf R at the time. I think it will be a great car as my GTI is awesome, but I just feel it could be a bit cheaper than the Golf R. the price is too close for what you get. However to all of you who have ordered a Clubsport I am sure it will be a great drive and enjoy every moment of owning it. It was a toss up for me between a Clubsport and Golf R until I saw the price was as close as it was between the two :smiley:
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Congrats Brendan; That's some spec alright!
It'll be an awesome car with all that kit and in Oryx. :cool:
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Oh dear God, what have I done! Was not planning on buying a car today, but I got £3K off list price on an Oryx White 5 Dr Golf R with practically all options and projected trade in price for my Gti Pp of £16K. I spent hours getting every last penny out of the dealer before signing the dotted line. i know I could get more out of drive the deal, but this much out of a local dealer is not bad.
I now have a Golf R, 5 Dr, in Oryx White with the following on order:
DCC
Tech Pack
Winter Pack
Rear View Camera
Carbon Mirror Caps
19" Pretoria Wheels
Climate Windscreen
Advanced Telephone Connection
App Connect
Service Plan
4yr Warranty Extension
Oh and another free boot liner tray
Estimated build time is 6mths, September maybe?
Fantastic spec but very brave man. I just can't see the R holding their values given the flood of leased cars that will be coming on to the market soon.
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I've got my GTD until December 2017 (company car) the replacement will not be a Golf.
The g/f has ordered a new A4 Avant 190 TDI S-Line... when you've been in one of those you realise that the Golf is pretty low rent... well equipped but low rent. I could have an A4 on the car scheme... but depending on what the government does I might have to go for a Merc C350e Estate... because the BIK is currently 7% (the g/f's co. car policy does not allow them to have plug-in hybrids :/)...
I'll still have the V8 Supercharged monster in the garage... :cool:
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I got myself a M135i. Cant say i have any regrets at all. Sound is addictive and its not really a fair comparison from the GTI to the M135i but it just puts a huge smile on my little face and makes me want to drive it. I also get an average of 30mpg out of it at the moment and can squeeze 40 out of it on a run so i haven't really lost anything in that sense. the other thing which is addictive is full throttle from a standing start and theres not really any wheel slip, the weight just drops onto the back wheels and they dig right into the tarmac, must be like what its like having 4WD, its so much easier to be confident.
Got this one till 2020 now though unless i get out of it after 3 years or so... ill be 25 then so I've no idea what will be going on in my life.
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u413/charlie8494/EF2286A4-E8A8-496B-8153-39E1626F8F45_zpsejjujigq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/charlie8494/media/EF2286A4-E8A8-496B-8153-39E1626F8F45_zpsejjujigq.jpg.html)
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@ CraigW: There aren't going to be any leasers with that sort of spec!
Indeed the R won't be a car remembered for its fantastic resale value but it's popular and got a similar image to the mk5 GTI in its day and that never had any resale value issues.
VW didn't supply all the leases in one hit, they had long wait times and were dribbled out into the market initially. The only reason they seem so common is because people buy them instead of GTIs now. You used to see loads of mk2 GTIs everywhere too back in their day and they always had excellent resale value, same for VR6's, MK5 GTI's etc.
The only reason the mk6 R held its value well is because nobody much bought them.
The R will stay a popular model and will be a popular second hand car once new stocks slow then dry up - it's been a huge hit with road testers and is a very well respected performance car.
I still reckon long term it'll have better than average depreciation but the days of VW's having rock solid residuals are probably over with all the heavy discounting going on as VW go for volume sales. Just look at BMW now.
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I got myself a M135i. Cant say i have any regrets at all. Sound is addictive and its not really a fair comparison from the GTI to the M135i but it just puts a huge smile on my little face and makes me want to drive it. I also get an average of 30mpg out of it at the moment and can squeeze 40 out of it on a run so i haven't really lost anything in that sense. the other thing which is addictive is full throttle from a standing start and theres not really any wheel slip, the weight just drops onto the back wheels and they dig right into the tarmac, must be like what its like having 4WD, its so much easier to be confident.
Got this one till 2020 now though unless i get out of it after 3 years or so... ill be 25 then so I've no idea what will be going on in my life.
Nice one charv! Definitely your sort of car.
Huge fun, great sound and very quick :afro:
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I got myself a M135i. Cant say i have any regrets at all. Sound is addictive and its not really a fair comparison from the GTI to the M135i but it just puts a huge smile on my little face and makes me want to drive it. I also get an average of 30mpg out of it at the moment and can squeeze 40 out of it on a run so i haven't really lost anything in that sense. the other thing which is addictive is full throttle from a standing start and theres not really any wheel slip, the weight just drops onto the back wheels and they dig right into the tarmac, must be like what its like having 4WD, its so much easier to be confident.
Got this one till 2020 now though unless i get out of it after 3 years or so... ill be 25 then so I've no idea what will be going on in my life.
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u413/charlie8494/EF2286A4-E8A8-496B-8153-39E1626F8F45_zpsejjujigq.jpg) (http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/charlie8494/media/EF2286A4-E8A8-496B-8153-39E1626F8F45_zpsejjujigq.jpg.html)
Very very nice indeed. It must go like the clappers.
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@ CraigW: There aren't going to be any leasers with that sort of spec!
Indeed the R won't be a car remembered for its fantastic resale value but it's popular and got a similar image to the mk5 GTI in its day and that never had any resale value issues.
VW didn't supply all the leases in one hit, they had long wait times and were dribbled out into the market initially. The only reason they seem so common is because people buy them instead of GTIs now. You used to see loads of mk2 GTIs everywhere too back in their day and they always had excellent resale value, same for VR6's, MK5 GTI's etc.
The only reason the mk6 R held its value well is because nobody much bought them.
The R will stay a popular model and will be a popular second hand car once new stocks slow then dry up - it's been a huge hit with road testers and is a very well respected performance car.
I still reckon long term it'll have better than average depreciation but the days of VW's having rock solid residuals are probably over with all the heavy discounting going on as VW go for volume sales. Just look at BMW now.
Of course there aren't going to be any leases with that spec unless your insane but most options as we know are not going to add any value when it comes to resale. I suspect if your trading your R into a dealer then your going to get hammered unless you intend on holding onto the car for at least 3 years by which time the mk8 will probably be out so I'm guessing that won't help either.
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@ CraigW: There aren't going to be any leasers with that sort of spec!
Indeed the R won't be a car remembered for its fantastic resale value but it's popular and got a similar image to the mk5 GTI in its day and that never had any resale value issues.
VW didn't supply all the leases in one hit, they had long wait times and were dribbled out into the market initially. The only reason they seem so common is because people buy them instead of GTIs now. You used to see loads of mk2 GTIs everywhere too back in their day and they always had excellent resale value, same for VR6's, MK5 GTI's etc.
The only reason the mk6 R held its value well is because nobody much bought them.
The R will stay a popular model and will be a popular second hand car once new stocks slow then dry up - it's been a huge hit with road testers and is a very well respected performance car.
I still reckon long term it'll have better than average depreciation but the days of VW's having rock solid residuals are probably over with all the heavy discounting going on as VW go for volume sales. Just look at BMW now.
Of course there aren't going to be any leases with that spec unless your insane but most options as we know are not going to add any value when it comes to resale. I suspect if your trading your R into a dealer then your going to get hammered unless you intend on holding onto the car for at least 3 years by which time the mk8 will probably be out so I'm guessing that won't help either.
Yep, totally agreed and hence why my car has zero options (not that I had any choice in the matter at the time!) due to my inability to stop having a wandering eye as far as cars are concerned I pay a huge amount of attention to likely resale as I change far too often.
On the other hand the financial value is less important than the enjoyment value to some people. ClubSport owners for example :laugh:
Seriously though, there are plenty of people on the forums who can happily afford just about any car they choose no matter what the price, but they choose to own a Golf. Depreciation is less of a concern to some buyers. Not everyone is a peasant like me! :grin:
And if you spend a lot of time in the car or intend on keeping it a long time then you want it just so. You have to be happy with it.
And if your employer is paying for a lot of the toys and depreciation then even better.
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I am in full agreement I will lose money on the options when It comes to trade in. Infact It was in the back of my mind all the time as I configured the car. The thing I kept thinking was the money I knocked off was paying for some of the options so I was getting some of them for free and wanted to see what some of them are like so I did not keep wandering what they were like for future cars i.e. DCC. You only live once, I had the money already put aside for a car and it so happened I managed to get the spec of I configured yesterday and hit the same amount I have put aside. I will be holding on to the car for at least up to 3 to 4 years as I hope to save money for the next Golf R, or failing that if it has a sudden price hike I will look at the next GTI.
I want to remember my Golf R being something special when i am in my old age living in a box on the street because I have a rubbish pension due to spending all my money on cars with lots of options rather than saving it for old age.... Guess with this in mind I had better not retire.
I am completely happy with my GTI, was not expecting to get a Golf R yesterday, but had one of those moments where you go sod it, just go for it. I guess it is an early mid-life crisis.
As a side note, my GTI had options as well The £16K I was offered I took as on the list price for the car and any options I configured which was about £4K+ I was making a loss on. I do not drink, smoke etc, so all the money I could waste on these vices I have splurged on options. For me it may be a case of waste it on options instead of smoke it or waste it down a toilet.
However I am still in shock a little at what has happened :laugh:
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I am in full agreement I will lose money on the options when It comes to trade in. Infact It was in the back of my mind all the time as I configured the car. The thing I kept thinking was the money I knocked off was paying for some of the options so I was getting some of them for free and wanted to see what some of them are like so I did not keep wandering what they were like for future cars i.e. DCC. You only live once, I had the money already put aside for a car and it so happened I managed to get the spec of I configured yesterday and hit the same amount I have put aside. I will be holding on to the car for at least up to 3 to 4 years as I hope to save money for the next Golf R, or failing that if it has a sudden price hike I will look at the next GTI.
I want to remember my Golf R being something special when i am in my old age living in a box on the street because I have a rubbish pension due to spending all my money on cars with lots of options rather than saving it for old age.... Guess with this in mind I had better not retire.
I am completely happy with my GTI, was not expecting to get a Golf R yesterday, but had one of those moments where you go sod it, just go for it. I guess it is an early mid-life crisis.
As a side note, my GTI had options as well The £16K I was offered I took as on the list price for the car and any options I configured which was about £4K+ I was making a loss on. I do not drink, smoke etc, so all the money I could waste on these vices I have splurged on options. For me it may be a case of waste it on options instead of smoke it or waste it down a toilet.
However I am still in shock a little at what has happened :laugh:
Fair play to you dude, that's exactly how I look at things in life, if you can afford it and you want it just buy it. Life's way too short to be saving every little penny for later on in years. People think I'm mad for spending all my money on cars but as long as bills are paid and food on the table, then spend away :grin:. I don't have many regrets in life but I do kinda regret not ticking a few more options when I was ordering my car, none of which I really need, but now I'm thinking I would kinda like them lol
Your car sounds like it will be awesome so just enjoy the experience, PS I'm jealous :sick:
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I am kinda still in a sense of shock and excitement right now. Completely unexpected to be in this situation today knowing I have a car to look forward to in 6 months but also the sudden realisation I have just splurged all the money... But to be honest it was for a car anyway. :smiley:
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Fair play to you dude, that's exactly how I look at things in life, if you can afford it and you want it just buy it. Life's way too short to be saving every little penny for later on in years. People think I'm mad for spending all my money on cars but as long as bills are paid and food on the table, then spend away :grin:. I don't have many regrets in life but I do kinda regret not ticking a few more options when I was ordering my car, none of which I really need, but now I'm thinking I would kinda like them lol
Your car sounds like it will be awesome so just enjoy the experience, PS I'm jealous :sick:
^+1. Enjoy it Brenbo when it arrives. Great spec! As a mate of mine says, "life's too short, you're a long time dead, so get the things you want and enjoy them."
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Went to visit a few BMW dealers today to check out a couple of colours with the wife as I can change, the novelty of the blue has warn off so mineral grey it will be with a few carbon touches
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/M2/BMW_M2_MG_2_zps0i9108ki.jpg)
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Went to visit a few BMW dealers today to check out a couple of colours with the wife as I can change, the novelty of the blue has warn off so mineral grey it will be with a few carbon touches
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/M2/BMW_M2_MG_2_zps0i9108ki.jpg)
That looks amazing! Beats blue any day of the week. :drool:
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i'd been having second thoughts as was not convinced by blue and white until today and was smitten
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i'd been having second thoughts as was not convinced by blue and white until today and was smitten
Well I can see why. I'm smitten by the whole thing, makes the R look very boring.
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Went to visit a few BMW dealers today to check out a couple of colours with the wife as I can change, the novelty of the blue has warn off so mineral grey it will be with a few carbon touches
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/M2/BMW_M2_MG_2_zps0i9108ki.jpg)
Wow!! You are Batman and I claim my 10 pounds.
Looks fantastic,what model is that? M2?
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Wow!! You are Batman and I claim my 10 pounds.
Looks fantastic,what model is that? M2?
Yes its a M2, but going to be a while before it gets built
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Went to visit a few BMW dealers today to check out a couple of colours with the wife as I can change, the novelty of the blue has warn off so mineral grey it will be with a few carbon touches
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/M2/BMW_M2_MG_2_zps0i9108ki.jpg)
That looks brutal.
I like that.
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That is a serious bit of kit. Looks incredible in that colour.
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Went to visit a few BMW dealers today to check out a couple of colours with the wife as I can change, the novelty of the blue has warn off so mineral grey it will be with a few carbon touches
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/wigit71/M2/BMW_M2_MG_2_zps0i9108ki.jpg)
Think that will be my chosen colour too. Did you drive one yet ? I read around 1900 coming to UK so glad I got in before the rave reviews.. Can't wait for a full Evo UK test
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I will take the dealer demo out where i have ordered but in no rush
Glad I jumped when i did before the reviews, ironically a friend was talking to chap at Pistonheads Sunday Service in a black manual who did not like it and preferred his PP GTI, he has a blue DCT one coming in a few weeks, i hope he likes turquoise
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@JBirchy and drisser: Yes! That's the one, a 4 series coupe. I went on Coast2coast's website and specced one up and even with discount it was heading near to £40k which for what you get ain't bad when you consider a GTI Clubsport or an R can easily get near those figures but still out of my budget by a fair amount.
Those 3.0 BMW turbodiesels have always appealed to me and the coupe styling does it for me but possibly not at £40k.
A lightly used second hand one though... ?
Hi Andy,
Hope you and you family are well buddy and are enjoying your Golf R.
TRL over on the babybmw forum has a cracking deal on the 435d m sport x drive.
I would imagine a same spec 430d you might be able to get at £32k to 33k.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=85411
Martin
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I would absolutely love one of those M2's but it would be out my price range. The car pictured above is spot on.
I'm still really enjoying the M135i though but it's a hard car to love from the outside.
So thinking of maybe going for an M235i (soon to be M240i) next.
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@JBirchy and drisser: Yes! That's the one, a 4 series coupe. I went on Coast2coast's website and specced one up and even with discount it was heading near to £40k which for what you get ain't bad when you consider a GTI Clubsport or an R can easily get near those figures but still out of my budget by a fair amount.
Those 3.0 BMW turbodiesels have always appealed to me and the coupe styling does it for me but possibly not at £40k.
A lightly used second hand one though... ?
Hi Andy,
Hope you and you family are well buddy and are enjoying your Golf R.
TRL over on the babybmw forum has a cracking deal on the 435d m sport x drive.
I would imagine a same spec 430d you might be able to get at £32k to 33k.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=85411
Martin
Hi Martin,
Great to see you still check in!
Family and R all good thanks.
Funnily enough I was doing a forum search for something the other day as I needed an old photo and I got completely sidetracked when I found a load of our old posts from a few years ago which brought a smile to my face. I lost well over an hour going back over some old threads. All good fun!
I seriously have no idea what I'll end up replacing the R with in a few years even assuming I do? It does pretty much everything you could ask of a car (and has a few additions that help it along the way) so it's possible I'd keep it a long time if it stays reliable and maybe supplement it with a small fun car or two, most likely older cars that aren't overly reliant on emissions electronics or a cheap lease deal for something completely random!
But who knows?
Mk8 GTD? MQB Scirocco? Smaller BMW? Mini JCW or tuned Cooper SD?
Thanks for the link, some seriously good deals seem to come from that dealer. I was equally impressed with the GFV on the car quoted: £20k less than list price! Scary stuff and I'd hope to have a good bit of equity in there!
Good to hear you're still very happy with your BMWs.
Hope your family are all well too :smiley:
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Just ordered a Mk.7 'Match Edition' ! After the financial disaster on the GTD this one should be a safer bet....
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@JBirchy and drisser: Yes! That's the one, a 4 series coupe. I went on Coast2coast's website and specced one up and even with discount it was heading near to £40k which for what you get ain't bad when you consider a GTI Clubsport or an R can easily get near those figures but still out of my budget by a fair amount.
Those 3.0 BMW turbodiesels have always appealed to me and the coupe styling does it for me but possibly not at £40k.
A lightly used second hand one though... ?
Hi Andy,
Hope you and you family are well buddy and are enjoying your Golf R.
TRL over on the babybmw forum has a cracking deal on the 435d m sport x drive.
I would imagine a same spec 430d you might be able to get at £32k to 33k.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=85411
Martin
That is a cracking deal! The first post there said not to share but glad you did.
We are collecting an A7 3.0d today to try for a few days after driving my brother RS7 for a week you really learn how good the interior is on them although I was more taken by the noise it makes. We also looked at a CLS350d and at the moment it is the front runner with the airmatic suspension it is like driving on air(no pun intended)
We also looked at a 4 series grand coupe but both the dealer and the deal was pants.
For someone that has always bought cars with cash do people think it is best to PCP or lease or is it just about the best deal/money in total spent over the 2/3 years.
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@JBirchy and drisser: Yes! That's the one, a 4 series coupe. I went on Coast2coast's website and specced one up and even with discount it was heading near to £40k which for what you get ain't bad when you consider a GTI Clubsport or an R can easily get near those figures but still out of my budget by a fair amount.
Those 3.0 BMW turbodiesels have always appealed to me and the coupe styling does it for me but possibly not at £40k.
A lightly used second hand one though... ?
Hi Andy,
Hope you and you family are well buddy and are enjoying your Golf R.
TRL over on the babybmw forum has a cracking deal on the 435d m sport x drive.
I would imagine a same spec 430d you might be able to get at £32k to 33k.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=85411
Martin
That is a cracking deal! The first post there said not to share but glad you did.
We are collecting an A7 3.0d today to try for a few days after driving my brother RS7 for a week you really learn how good the interior is on them although I was more taken by the noise it makes. We also looked at a CLS350d and at the moment it is the front runner with the airmatic suspension it is like driving on air(no pun intended)
We also looked at a 4 series grand coupe but both the dealer and the deal was pants.
For someone that has always bought cars with cash do people think it is best to PCP or lease or is it just about the best deal/money in total spent over the 2/3 years.
It is a rather good deal isn't it. I'm sure the dealer won't mind Martin posting it up in here, we are a discreet bunch and won't put it up on hotukdeals :laugh:
Ssssssshhhhh mum's the word!
What's best? I'd think with a massively depreciating car like an A7 then leasing would appeal more than buying.
There's no hard and fast answer as to what's best as there are too many variables.
Look at the term you'd have the car over and see what's best for you financially.
Leases have tended to be aimed at businesses but now the market is changing hugely. This is possibly a golden age of leasing before it becomes too popular and the market gets flooded with sucker deals for those who don't do their research (most people).
Leases are great if you want a standard basic car, have the patience to wait for the manufacturer underwritten specials (which are the only real bargains) and know exactly what the car is worth at the end of the term - basically f**k all, a nice man with a clip board turns up and drives it to a big auction house as you sniff into a tissue and wave it off down the road.
PCP is convenient, and if done on the right terms and you buy at the right time it can work well but looking at PCP interest rates, GFV's, manufacturer contributions etc can get a bit confusing.
Cash is great for those that have the cash! Balance up what your money can earn you invested in something that gives you a return versus borrowing and paying interest or a blend of both on a cheap loan (if you qualify for the best rates), factor in likely depreciation and hey presto! Well not quite that simple but if you want a load of extras then cash or PCP would usually be better.
Again, modifying your cars: check the small print, I tend to buy my cars cash (plus personal loans when needed) as I tend to modify them. I've got a lot better and only do a few easily reversible things now as I got fed up with money pits so I could in theory lease, but, at least with owning it I'm not risking any terms and conditions of finance.
Also there's the small fact of what you already own. Do you need part ex terms due to it being fairly new and nigh on impossible to shift privately as dealers would be too competitive on terms for a potential buyer?
If you have no part ex then obviously that opens up the whole market to the best deals but if you do then depending on the value of your next car compared to your current one that might mean it's worth more than the maximum PCP deposit (assuming you own it outright) or that getting the best broker deals will be hampered by disposing of your current vehicle at a realistic value negating the headline discounts.
So yes, overall costs, convenience etc etc
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I think over the last couple of years the way you put four wheels the drive is not so clear cut.
My R was purchased due to the decision to mod, my wife is the same as she has the save mentally as well.
I'll be honest the R and Polo have taken a hit and in reality I did say to my dealer could not see me buying one for a while.
The Polo is being replaced by a R estate and I didn't want too much in the toy department, I think it is costing me £6.3K all in, simply too good a deal to refuse and selling my blue one gives me some options (perhaps to dabble in some classics)
I'm buying the M2 as in reality I think will perform well over the next couple of years in terms of depreciations the market is flooded and it is being massively over hyped
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@JBirchy and drisser: Yes! That's the one, a 4 series coupe. I went on Coast2coast's website and specced one up and even with discount it was heading near to £40k which for what you get ain't bad when you consider a GTI Clubsport or an R can easily get near those figures but still out of my budget by a fair amount.
Those 3.0 BMW turbodiesels have always appealed to me and the coupe styling does it for me but possibly not at £40k.
A lightly used second hand one though... ?
Hi Andy,
Hope you and you family are well buddy and are enjoying your Golf R.
TRL over on the babybmw forum has a cracking deal on the 435d m sport x drive.
I would imagine a same spec 430d you might be able to get at £32k to 33k.
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=85411
Martin
That is a cracking deal! The first post there said not to share but glad you did.
We are collecting an A7 3.0d today to try for a few days after driving my brother RS7 for a week you really learn how good the interior is on them although I was more taken by the noise it makes. We also looked at a CLS350d and at the moment it is the front runner with the airmatic suspension it is like driving on air(no pun intended)
We also looked at a 4 series grand coupe but both the dealer and the deal was pants.
For someone that has always bought cars with cash do people think it is best to PCP or lease or is it just about the best deal/money in total spent over the 2/3 years.
It is a rather good deal isn't it. I'm sure the dealer won't mind Martin posting it up in here, we are a discreet bunch and won't put it up on hotukdeals :laugh:
Ssssssshhhhh mum's the word!
What's best? I'd think with a massively depreciating car like an A7 then leasing would appeal more than buying.
There's no hard and fast answer as to what's best as there are too many variables.
Look at the term you'd have the car over and see what's best for you financially.
Leases have tended to be aimed at businesses but now the market is changing hugely. This is possibly a golden age of leasing before it becomes too popular and the market gets flooded with sucker deals for those who don't do their research (most people).
Leases are great if you want a standard basic car, have the patience to wait for the manufacturer underwritten specials (which are the only real bargains) and know exactly what the car is worth at the end of the term - basically f**k all, a nice man with a clip board turns up and drives it to a big auction house as you sniff into a tissue and wave it off down the road.
PCP is convenient, and if done on the right terms and you buy at the right time it can work well but looking at PCP interest rates, GFV's, manufacturer contributions etc can get a bit confusing.
Cash is great for those that have the cash! Balance up what your money can earn you invested in something that gives you a return versus borrowing and paying interest or a blend of both on a cheap loan (if you qualify for the best rates), factor in likely depreciation and hey presto! Well not quite that simple but if you want a load of extras then cash or PCP would usually be better.
Again, modifying your cars: check the small print, I tend to buy my cars cash (plus personal loans when needed) as I tend to modify them. I've got a lot better and only do a few easily reversible things now as I got fed up with money pits so I could in theory lease, but, at least with owning it I'm not risking any terms and conditions of finance.
Also there's the small fact of what you already own. Do you need part ex terms due to it being fairly new and nigh on impossible to shift privately as dealers would be too competitive on terms for a potential buyer?
If you have no part ex then obviously that opens up the whole market to the best deals but if you do then depending on the value of your next car compared to your current one that might mean it's worth more than the maximum PCP deposit (assuming you own it outright) or that getting the best broker deals will be hampered by disposing of your current vehicle at a realistic value negating the headline discounts.
So yes, overall costs, convenience etc etc
It's hard to know what is best to do when you're used to buying cars with cash. The deal I have at the moment on the Mercedes is eye watering at first but when you think about the car it is for it's not so bad.
(http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r579/Yeah-it-is-me/image_zpsyatwi7wm.jpeg) (http://s1172.photobucket.com/user/Yeah-it-is-me/media/image_zpsyatwi7wm.jpeg.html)
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That M2 in mineral grey :shocked: :drool:
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That M2 :cool:
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Went to relatively local dealer today and talked myself out of the DBP from R saw in showroom, be far too much commitment to keep clean as know from owning two A3 in black and does hide some features, quite liked the silver R, preferred the Limestone but loved the presume coated Pretoria on the Silver R unless a new option? Which would take on white car
Think Lapiz will be my colour now though, as changes mind again!
Saw an R Line Golf and badging is too much like R for me, it's only as personally know not R from wheels etc many would not know difference
Some quick snaps
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/1E3975F8-859D-4BD0-BB81-FD894446C7B9_zpsiyia4vvi.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/1E3975F8-859D-4BD0-BB81-FD894446C7B9_zpsiyia4vvi.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/81EEF785-B1E9-4710-A112-74E519023223_zpsjffnaoe4.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/81EEF785-B1E9-4710-A112-74E519023223_zpsjffnaoe4.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/C43E6465-BBEC-4B83-8B38-1663623D47E0_zpsgek4he0l.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/C43E6465-BBEC-4B83-8B38-1663623D47E0_zpsgek4he0l.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/5735688C-2434-42BF-BD7D-FA8FCEC0CDF2_zps9wtt1tkn.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/5735688C-2434-42BF-BD7D-FA8FCEC0CDF2_zps9wtt1tkn.jpg.html)
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Not sure about the silver R, maybe it's the angle of the photo, but it just does not look quite like an R should, it looks like a different model. Maybe they have overdone the add ons like black Pretoria's, gloss black mirror caps and panoramic sunroof (more black). All the black assets do not sit well with the silver for me. However the Limestone Grey looks bang on... If I did not order my R as Oryx White, Limestone Grey may be up there as one of the colours I would go for. :smiley:
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Not sure about the silver R, maybe it's the angle of the photo, but it just does not look quite like an R should, it looks like a different model. Maybe they have overdone the add ons like black Pretoria's, gloss black mirror caps and panoramic sunroof (more black). All the black assets do not sit well with the silver for me. However the Limestone Grey looks bang on... If I did not order my R as Oryx White, Limestone Grey may be up there as one of the colours I would go for. :smiley:
Totally agree, the silver obviously has had some real TLC and ££'s spent on it but has maybe gone too far, it was my instant impression that limestone was still nicer in more vanilla specification as they were parked side by side
Did like the coated Pretoria though and would option them
Pretty much dismissed the DBP limestone and Silver based on this visit and Lapiz is favourite now unless there is enough extra ££ to consider the Oryx. Have white GTD now so would like some change from the plain.
Nice white GTI PP in there to with large media screen which wish could option just screen alone as it does add more presence to the cab
Having seen 3 x R today in different colours made for worthwhile trip
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I personally think that Silver R looks epics :grin:
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LSG... I have one, its metallic beige. The colour is soooo marmite, but I've decided its definitely metallic beige and a bit like diarrhoea.
Only 9 months left to go, then I'm going for another colour.
Seriously, worst choice I made.
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LSG... I have one, its metallic beige. The colour is soooo marmite, but I've decided its definitely metallic beige and a bit like diarrhoea.
Only 9 months left to go, then I'm going for another colour.
Seriously, worst choice I made.
Light plays huge part in how car looks on the metallics, my plain white virtue is that it's pretty consistent, you get what you see, where as some of metallics flatter to deceive and maybe that marmite feeling on the LSG
Shame you feel that way a colour tainting the experience of car that much but an experience really do not want to share so really doing my due diligence on this - cabin experience is not going to change much so happy about that so it's just getting that walking up to car and loving it as much as when was delivered part right
LSG looked best of three saw today on cloudy day but none grabbed me to choose any and the black R in the showroom was most disappointing.
CSG would be my choice but think pretty much set on the R signature colour now of the Lapiz, unless have £500 extra floating around once selected options for Oryx
Midnight Blue never gets much mention but there is one see regularly at gym and though not had me really thinking to for myself it is decent colour for the R
Think the coated Pretoria would look good on most colours and they were what liked most today so shame they not an option
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Just ordered an R :evil: :grin:
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Going in tomorrow to talk R I know the spec. Just colour real was riding towards TR but then may go towards a Carbon grey.
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LSG... I have one, its metallic beige. The colour is soooo marmite, but I've decided its definitely metallic beige and a bit like diarrhoea.
Only 9 months left to go, then I'm going for another colour.
Seriously, worst choice I made.
Light plays huge part in how car looks on the metallics, my plain white virtue is that it's pretty consistent, you get what you see, where as some of metallics flatter to deceive and maybe that marmite feeling on the LSG
Shame you feel that way a colour tainting the experience of car that much but an experience really do not want to share so really doing my due diligence on this - cabin experience is not going to change much so happy about that so it's just getting that walking up to car and loving it as much as when was delivered part right
LSG looked best of three saw today on cloudy day but none grabbed me to choose any and the black R in the showroom was most disappointing.
CSG would be my choice but think pretty much set on the R signature colour now of the Lapiz, unless have £500 extra floating around once selected options for Oryx
Midnight Blue never gets much mention but there is one see regularly at gym and though not had me really thinking to for myself it is decent colour for the R
Think the coated Pretoria would look good on most colours and they were what liked most today so shame they not an option
I would highly recommend Oryx White for the WOW factor. I currently own a GTI PP in Oryx and it does turn heads for the right reason, I even now, still look at my GTI as I did when i first picked it up from the dealer. You will see a difference with Oryx from pure white in most lighting conditions and when you do it's awesome. I know it is an extortionate price, but it was the first thing I ticked on the option sheet when I ordered my R recently. :smiley:
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I personally think that Silver R looks epics :grin:
I agree, but I think the clear conclusion is the R needs a better grey. Put BMW's mineral grey on the R...
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Going in tomorrow to talk R I know the spec. Just colour real was riding towards TR but then may go towards a Carbon grey.
I don't think you'll be getting carbon grey somehow :whistle:
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I personally think that Silver R looks epics :grin:
I agree, but I think the clear conclusion is the R needs a better grey. Put BMW's mineral grey on the R...
My sister in law has an A4 in mineral grey and you are spot on, it would really suit the R :drool:
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Just ordered a Mk.7 'Match Edition' ! After the financial disaster on the GTD this one should be a safer bet....
Residuals ?
I must admit used Mk7 Golf GT's are looking good value now, if I go ahead with the M2 next year am seriously considering buying a Mk7 GT TDi you can pick one up for about £13k now, would be ideal as a commuter workhorse. They look half decent with the 18 inch Serron (I think?) alloys and pan roof too.
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Went to relatively local dealer today and talked myself out of the DBP from R saw in showroom, be far too much commitment to keep clean as know from owning two A3 in black and does hide some features, quite liked the silver R, preferred the Limestone but loved the presume coated Pretoria on the Silver R unless a new option? Which would take on white car
Think Lapiz will be my colour now though, as changes mind again!
Saw an R Line Golf and badging is too much like R for me, it's only as personally know not R from wheels etc many would not know difference
Some quick snaps
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/1E3975F8-859D-4BD0-BB81-FD894446C7B9_zpsiyia4vvi.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/1E3975F8-859D-4BD0-BB81-FD894446C7B9_zpsiyia4vvi.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/81EEF785-B1E9-4710-A112-74E519023223_zpsjffnaoe4.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/81EEF785-B1E9-4710-A112-74E519023223_zpsjffnaoe4.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/C43E6465-BBEC-4B83-8B38-1663623D47E0_zpsgek4he0l.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/C43E6465-BBEC-4B83-8B38-1663623D47E0_zpsgek4he0l.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/5735688C-2434-42BF-BD7D-FA8FCEC0CDF2_zps9wtt1tkn.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/5735688C-2434-42BF-BD7D-FA8FCEC0CDF2_zps9wtt1tkn.jpg.html)
This silver was at a garage though likely one of salesman car but one question was have these Pretoria been coated or are they Able to be ordered somehow?
Also the CSG is a serious miss on the R as works so well with the chrome elements but Lapiz is signature colour assigned to R and doubt that ever changes
Having seen all R colours in flesh now except Oryx it is down to Lapiz and White as my final choice
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LSG... I have one, its metallic beige. The colour is soooo marmite, but I've decided its definitely metallic beige and a bit like diarrhoea.
Only 9 months left to go, then I'm going for another colour.
Seriously, worst choice I made.
Light plays huge part in how car looks on the metallics, my plain white virtue is that it's pretty consistent, you get what you see, where as some of metallics flatter to deceive and maybe that marmite feeling on the LSG
Shame you feel that way a colour tainting the experience of car that much but an experience really do not want to share so really doing my due diligence on this - cabin experience is not going to change much so happy about that so it's just getting that walking up to car and loving it as much as when was delivered part right
LSG looked best of three saw today on cloudy day but none grabbed me to choose any and the black R in the showroom was most disappointing.
CSG would be my choice but think pretty much set on the R signature colour now of the Lapiz, unless have £500 extra floating around once selected options for Oryx
Midnight Blue never gets much mention but there is one see regularly at gym and though not had me really thinking to for myself it is decent colour for the R
Think the coated Pretoria would look good on most colours and they were what liked most today so shame they not an option
I would highly recommend Oryx White for the WOW factor. I currently own a GTI PP in Oryx and it does turn heads for the right reason, I even now, still look at my GTI as I did when i first picked it up from the dealer. You will see a difference with Oryx from pure white in most lighting conditions and when you do it's awesome. I know it is an extortionate price, but it was the first thing I ticked on the option sheet when I ordered my R recently. :smiley:
I might need to go to Specsavers in that case because unless it is sunny or under lights I can't tell the difference on my car. If it is sunny and you are wearing polarised sunglasses then it looks spectacular. Yes it is expensive but it is worth it.
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Went to relatively local dealer today and talked myself out of the DBP from R saw in showroom, be far too much commitment to keep clean as know from owning two A3 in black and does hide some features, quite liked the silver R, preferred the Limestone but loved the presume coated Pretoria on the Silver R unless a new option? Which would take on white car
Think Lapiz will be my colour now though, as changes mind again!
Saw an R Line Golf and badging is too much like R for me, it's only as personally know not R from wheels etc many would not know difference
Some quick snaps
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/1E3975F8-859D-4BD0-BB81-FD894446C7B9_zpsiyia4vvi.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/1E3975F8-859D-4BD0-BB81-FD894446C7B9_zpsiyia4vvi.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/81EEF785-B1E9-4710-A112-74E519023223_zpsjffnaoe4.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/81EEF785-B1E9-4710-A112-74E519023223_zpsjffnaoe4.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/C43E6465-BBEC-4B83-8B38-1663623D47E0_zpsgek4he0l.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/C43E6465-BBEC-4B83-8B38-1663623D47E0_zpsgek4he0l.jpg.html)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/marti1n/5735688C-2434-42BF-BD7D-FA8FCEC0CDF2_zps9wtt1tkn.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/marti1n/media/5735688C-2434-42BF-BD7D-FA8FCEC0CDF2_zps9wtt1tkn.jpg.html)
This silver was at a garage though likely one of salesman car but one question was have these Pretoria been coated or are they Able to be ordered somehow?
Also the CSG is a serious miss on the R as works so well with the chrome elements but Lapiz is signature colour assigned to R and doubt that ever changes
Having seen all R colours in flesh now except Oryx it is down to Lapiz and White as my final choice
I have just ordered a Lapiz R, it looks an amazing colour and unique to the R as well :)
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Going in tomorrow to talk R I know the spec. Just colour real was riding towards TR but then may go towards a Carbon grey.
I don't think you'll be getting carbon grey somehow :whistle:
I meant Limestone he he.
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We have a Reflex Silver 3dr R on order and have chosen it specifically for the more subtle looks as it's my wife's daily and she doesn't want a load of attention in it.
IMO black wheels look good on very few cars and the silver R in the pictures looks dreadful, sometimes less is so much more.
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I would agree, black wheels do only look OK on certain colour cars. I had briefly toyed with the idea of black wheels on my white R, but felt the diamond cut Cadiz or light graphite coloured Pretorias looked better than black wheels for my car. I would agree also less is more apart form when you are ticking the check boxes on the options list :laugh:
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My circumstances are changing later this year, as a Frank junior is joining the scene in October. Now I know a hatchback can easily still work for a growing (starting!) family, but we also have a dog to fit in the car somewhere and I'm erring towards an estate.
I've had my eye on a petrol BMW for a while, so a contender currently is to move to a BMW 330i touring. I can still chose a manual if I want to in that car also but I could be open to going auto if I don't think I will miss manual too much.
The 340i touring could be an option too (33k after discounts, although auto only), but with my sensible hat the 330i would probably be quite enough (even though only a 4 pot these days) and hopefully give similar or better in gear performance as my DTUK GTD. That inline 6 though... :drool:
Now, the R Estate wasn't really in my thinking - but seeing Wigit is going for one did make me think about it. I'm not won over by it's looks compared the the Hatchback, but in the right spec perhaps it would be worth looking at too. It's also interesting that the R has bigger boot space than the 3 touring - which I thought would be the other way round!
Other contenders I've pretty much ruled out are the A4 Avant (petrol engine choices aren't great IMO, with the 250bhp offering looking a bit overpriced), similarly the Mercedes C class estate petrol engines are limited to a 180bhp or the 360bhp C450 - and nothing in the middle.
Some other marques don't even offer petrol - looking at you VW!!
Other than that, a bit further down the line I could see myself going hybrid or full electric one day. The first crop of hybrid german cars don't seem to offer much just yet, but surely it's the future? The Tesla model X or S look promising too.
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I've driven a Golf R estate, if you can get past its looks it will serve you well, the boot is massive and also has useful under-boot storage too.
I vote Golf R Estate ;)
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My circumstances are changing later this year, as a Frank junior is joining the scene in October. Now I know a hatchback can easily still work for a growing (starting!) family, but we also have a dog to fit in the car somewhere and I'm erring towards an estate.
I've had my eye on a petrol BMW for a while, so a contender currently is to move to a BMW 330i touring. I can still chose a manual if I want to in that car also but I could be open to going auto if I don't think I will miss manual too much.
The 340i touring could be an option too (33k after discounts, although auto only), but with my sensible hat the 330i would probably be quite enough (even though only a 4 pot these days) and hopefully give similar or better in gear performance as my DTUK GTD. That inline 6 though... :drool:
Now, the R Estate wasn't really in my thinking - but seeing Wigit is going for one did make me think about it. I'm not won over by it's looks compared the the Hatchback, but in the right spec perhaps it would be worth looking at too. It's also interesting that the R has bigger boot space than the 3 touring - which I thought would be the other way round!
Other contenders I've pretty much ruled out are the A4 Avant (petrol engine choices aren't great IMO, with the 250bhp offering looking a bit overpriced), similarly the Mercedes C class estate petrol engines are limited to a 180bhp or the 360bhp C450 - and nothing in the middle.
Some other marques don't even offer petrol - looking at you VW!!
Other than that, a bit further down the line I could see myself going hybrid or full electric one day. The first crop of hybrid german cars don't seem to offer much just yet, but surely it's the future? The Tesla model X or S look promising too.
Funny enough, I'm looking at some similar cars. I got some prices on a 330i Touring, a 330d Touring and a 340i Touring. I specced them up pretty much fully loaded and the 340i came out best on a PCP deal. £35k after discount (£11k knocked off!), £2k deposit and £495 per month. Pretty amazing really for what is a £46k car with a beautiful straight 6. Pretty amazing deal. If I could shift my GTI and come out reasonable on the equity front, I'd go for it tomorrow.
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I've driven a Golf R estate, if you can get past its looks it will serve you well, the boot is massive and also has useful under-boot storage too.
I vote Golf R Estate ;)
I was really surprised about the boot! I guess it just means a GTD estate must be even better without the transmission intrusions? I'll have to take a look at one in person I guess won't I, perhaps that booty just doesn't photograph well :)
Funny enough, I'm looking at some similar cars. I got some prices on a 330i Touring, a 330d Touring and a 340i Touring. I specced them up pretty much fully loaded and the 340i came out best on a PCP deal. £35k after discount (£11k knocked off!), £2k deposit and £495 per month. Pretty amazing really for what is a £46k car with a beautiful straight 6. Pretty amazing deal. If I could shift my GTI and come out reasonable on the equity front, I'd go for it tomorrow.
Ha ha, yes mate - I remember we were both intrigued by the 340i on a previous thread - maybe in saloon format then? Certainly was for me anyway. Did you get to drive any of those in touring/saloon yet? I'll get in touch with the better local dealer shortly to see about driving what they have/can get.
You quote for the 340i sounds impressive if it was pretty loaded - was that from TRL or something? I've only looked online so far, no enquiries made (so broadspeed, coast2coast). Did the 330i actually come out worse in the deal, or was it just so close it was better value to go for the 340i? If I find I do want to stick with manual it will rule out the 340i as the touring loses manual as an option as you've probably seen!
I'm wondering about going very light on options this time round, and in which case I might just lease. Nationwide offer the 340i touring at £395 a month with 3 months initial fee, for 2 or 3 years. So for 2 years it's around £480 a month - which is less than my GTD has cost me now over 2 years. If I kept the GTD 4 years it may (or may not) work out better, but it does make me think about PCP.
As for my negative equity, I'm probably still close to 2k negative (hopefully not more), but if I settle my finance now I will save close to 2k interest - so I am actually break even in terms of the next 2 years other than any equity I might build up - obviously a more painful way to approach it though!
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Got s quote from the dealer on the R I specced
Dsg
5door
Car net
Sat Nav
Rear view camera
Leathers
Keyless
This is what u got
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These guys think I'm a mug. GFV of 13k and that much a month.
What's the point.
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Got s quote from the dealer on the R I specced
Dsg
5door
Car net
Sat Nav
Rear view camera
Leathers
Keyless
This is what u got
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These guys think I'm a mug. GFV of 13k and that much a month.
What's the point.
just curious but why is the GFV so low?
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Beats me. I have contacted DTD and carwow so let's see if they all come in with real low GFV. Leasing one will be the best option.
Will need to look at alternatives.
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I think most GFV figures a low, my GTI PP was under £13k I believe.
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I think most GFV figures a low, my GTI PP was under £13k I believe.
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Yes my GFV was just under 13K £12,800 I think. But our car is only 3 door manual GTi PP in 2014 cost 24k including a 1k deposit so I was starting out with a car 10k cheaper. Unless i haven't read that right?
Hope you get a better quote with DTD, orange wheels and Carwow Misterp. (bought mine through carwow)
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Waiting for people to respond but I do need to get this sorted will update when I hear.
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Funny enough, I'm looking at some similar cars. I got some prices on a 330i Touring, a 330d Touring and a 340i Touring. I specced them up pretty much fully loaded and the 340i came out best on a PCP deal. £35k after discount (£11k knocked off!), £2k deposit and £495 per month. Pretty amazing really for what is a £46k car with a beautiful straight 6. Pretty amazing deal. If I could shift my GTI and come out reasonable on the equity front, I'd go for it tomorrow.
Ha ha, yes mate - I remember we were both intrigued by the 340i on a previous thread - maybe in saloon format then? Certainly was for me anyway. Did you get to drive any of those in touring/saloon yet? I'll get in touch with the better local dealer shortly to see about driving what they have/can get.
You quote for the 340i sounds impressive if it was pretty loaded - was that from TRL or something? I've only looked online so far, no enquiries made (so broadspeed, coast2coast). Did the 330i actually come out worse in the deal, or was it just so close it was better value to go for the 340i? If I find I do want to stick with manual it will rule out the 340i as the touring loses manual as an option as you've probably seen!
I'm wondering about going very light on options this time round, and in which case I might just lease. Nationwide offer the 340i touring at £395 a month with 3 months initial fee, for 2 or 3 years. So for 2 years it's around £480 a month - which is less than my GTD has cost me now over 2 years. If I kept the GTD 4 years it may (or may not) work out better, but it does make me think about PCP.
As for my negative equity, I'm probably still close to 2k negative (hopefully not more), but if I settle my finance now I will save close to 2k interest - so I am actually break even in terms of the next 2 years other than any equity I might build up - obviously a more painful way to approach it though!
Yes that was a quote from TRL on a 4 year PCP. At the time, he said that due to the extra support available on the 340i and the fact that they were doing Sport Auto transmission FOC on them for a short period, coupled with the increased GFV for the 340i the payments would be within £5 of each other.
Interestingly, I've been doing a lot of research lately on my PCP situation and I'm just nowhere near swapping after 26 months. Even after a 13% DTD discount and my (admittedly small) £1500 deposit, I'm still in around £4k negative equity against a trade in value. Interestingly, BMW value my car now at less than the GFV on the contract after 4 years, and I'm only 2 years in!
If I can sell my car privately at a similar value to those of similar age/mileage on Autotrader, I'm still in around £1k of negative equity on it which is a bit depressing! I've figured out that I'll have paid 50% of Total Contract Value at around 40 months so even a Voluntary Termination is out of the question.
I'll be rethinking what to do next time round as opposed to PCP, I just don't like this negative equity lark. I know VW part ex prices have dropped off a cliff but still, I like the idea of leasing over 2 years and knowing exactly where you are, no negative equity involved.
Food for thought!
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Maybe I'm reading into it wrong but come the term of your PCP you should have some equity albeit maybe just a few hundred pounds.
I don't see the difference between going full term on a PCP and going full term on a lease. Both will give you no extra to pay!
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Maybe I'm reading into it wrong but come the term of your PCP you should have some equity albeit maybe just a few hundred pounds.
I don't see the difference between going full term on a PCP and going full term on a lease. Both will give you no extra to pay!
There probably isn't much difference at all provided you go to the end of the term as you say Stevie. That's possibly where the advantage of the lease comes in for those who like to change their cars more frequently. Certainly if you don't go to the end of your term on a PCP your most likely going to be in negative equity.
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Jeez, do people really pay £500 a month to ride around in a new car?
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Jeez, do people really pay £500 a month to ride around in a new car?
Oh yes, people pay a lot more than that too. In my case, a car allowance from my job covers around 2/3 of my car payment so it doesn't seem like such a large outlay.
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Jeez, do people really pay £500 a month to ride around in a new car?
Oh yes, people pay a lot more than that too. In my case, a car allowance from my job covers around 2/3 of my car payment so it doesn't seem like such a large outlay.
I wouldn't want to be paying anywhere near it for a Golf but one of the cars I'm looking at is £907 a month with nothing upfront and that is on a two year lease with 10k mile per year. It doesn't half make the prospect of an R more appealing and something like a Tiguan for the wife rather than one car for both and a small fun car for me.
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Maybe I'm reading into it wrong but come the term of your PCP you should have some equity albeit maybe just a few hundred pounds.
I don't see the difference between going full term on a PCP and going full term on a lease. Both will give you no extra to pay!
Yes, but we probably want some of our cake too :) Rightly or wrongly, I chose PCP as I believed it would give me more flexibility. With the current VW used market it doesn't seem to offer any improved flexibility. As it stands I don't think we will have any equity on our GTD's come end of turn - quite the opposite infact. Case in point - the dealer I bought my GTD from offered me 16k for a March sale - so just 3.5k over the GFV with 2 years to go!
I know the best thing I can financially do is hand the car back in 2 years, but I don't think the car will be big enough for us with a dog and baby.
Jeez, do people really pay £500 a month to ride around in a new car?
If you factor in the deposit I'm paying 420 a month over the 4 year term for my good spec GTD - and that's after a 11% discount - so it's pretty easy to end up at 500. There are a lot of benefits (sometimes requirements for work too) to be spending this much though.
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Maybe I'm reading into it wrong but come the term of your PCP you should have some equity albeit maybe just a few hundred pounds.
I don't see the difference between going full term on a PCP and going full term on a lease. Both will give you no extra to pay!
Yes, but we probably want some of our cake too :) Rightly or wrongly, I chose PCP as I believed it would give me more flexibility. With the current VW used market it doesn't seem to offer any improved flexibility. As it stands I don't think we will have any equity on our GTD's come end of turn - quite the opposite infact. Case in point - the dealer I bought my GTD from offered me 16k for a March sale - so just 3.5k over the GFV with 2 years to go!
I know the best thing I can financially do is hand the car back in 2 years, but I don't think the car will be big enough for us with a dog and baby.
I'm facing exactly the same situation. My GFV on my GTI is £13,560 after 4 years. I'm 2 years in and been offered a p/x value of £15k from a BMW dealer, £17k from a VW dealer. I got a 13% discount too (equated to around £5k) so you might have thought I'd have been in a better position but as we know, the values have fallen off a cliff. Hopefully they might stabilise a bit and we'll do some catching up as we pay our monthlies.
Think I'll be reaching 50% of total contract value and voluntary terminating to be honest (I'll get there at 40 months) and moving to a personal contract hire on a 2 year deal. No negative equity to worry about at all. PCP hasn't been anywhere near as flexible as I thought it would be (as it was sold to me...)
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Got a quote. 4 year PCP 7-8000 miles per year details below. They won't match the Drive the deal price with DTD I have to find a buyer for my Gtd.
Coast2coast calculated the same monthlies on a 3yr PCP. birmingham saying 40quid more for a three year PCP. Now just waiting on Carwow. prob with PCP looking at losing 16k plus over 36 months.
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Leasing may be the way forward to prevent such a loss of money alternatively I may have to look at alternative cars.
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That PCP quote seems high but I'm not 100% sure......
I'm trading my 2014 (Dec 63) GTI PP in for a high spec factory order Golf R 5dr DSG.
£404pm over 48 months with 8k pa mileage.
£2000 cash deposit from me
£3150 deposit approx from part exchange, part exchange value £17300 approx
£1250 dealer contribution
:)
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Who are you ordering through. I just think they are mugging me off
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Not me but my daughter, picked up a new TT on Saturday.
Initially I wasn't a fan of it but its lovely inside. The virtual cockpit , not to everyone's taste adds a touch of class. The seats are fantastic (Alcantara / leather). It just seems in a different league to anything I've been used to in a Golf.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/TT_zps7ipjtvjl.jpg)
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Not me but my daughter, picked up a new TT on Saturday.
Initially I wasn't a fan of it but its lovely inside. The virtual cockpit , not to everyone's taste adds a touch of class. The seats are fantastic (Alcantara / leather). It just seems in a different league to anything I've been used to in a Golf.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/TT_zps7ipjtvjl.jpg)
Wow beautiful!! The more I see them on the road the more I want one again.
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I don't see the appeal of tt's. every tt I have ever seen has made me feel ill, thinking part of vag made that. I can't stand them, yet people seem to treat them like the sun. A beautiful car to me hasn't been made by anything to do with vw since the karmann ghia, but my interpretation of the word beautiful must be different, the mk2 golf and sport Quattro were the best looking in my opinion but not beautiful at all, a 250gto or db4gt is beautiful. No offence meant to anyone who likes tt's.
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I don't see the appeal of tt's. every tt I have ever seen has made me feel ill, thinking part of vag made that. I can't stand them, yet people seem to treat them like the sun. A beautiful car to me hasn't been made by anything to do with vw since the karmann ghia, but my interpretation of the word beautiful must be different, the mk2 golf and sport Quattro were the best looking in my opinion but not beautiful at all, a 250gto or db4gt is beautiful. No offence meant to anyone who likes tt's.
What exactly is your issue with VAG? :huh: :huh:
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I don't see the appeal of tt's. every tt I have ever seen has made me feel ill...........
Every TT you have ever seen has made you feel ill? Are you not being just a touch melodramatic?
Clinic is that way -----> (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hypochondria/pages/introduction.aspx) :laugh:
Seriously though that is why there are hundreds of different cars even thousands if you include colours etc so you can pick what you want and leave the one's causing health issues to others. :grin:
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I don't see the appeal of tt's. every tt I have ever seen has made me feel ill...........
Every TT you have ever seen has made you feel ill? Are you not being just a touch melodramatic?
Clinic is that way -----> (http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hypochondria/pages/introduction.aspx) :laugh:
Seriously though that is why there are hundreds of different cars even thousands if you include colours etc so you can pick what you want and leave the one's causing health issues to others. :grin:
Actually I looked at a TT one morning and I felt sick, granted I did drink a large amount of JD the night before but I'm sure it didn't have any baring on it :whistle:
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Not me but my daughter, picked up a new TT on Saturday.
Initially I wasn't a fan of it but its lovely inside. The virtual cockpit , not to everyone's taste adds a touch of class. The seats are fantastic (Alcantara / leather). It just seems in a different league to anything I've been used to in a Golf.
(http://i918.photobucket.com/albums/ad28/p3asa1/TT_zps7ipjtvjl.jpg)
Ohhhh I like that!
What engine?
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Its just the base 1.8 Andy.
She's always wanted a white Audi TT since she started driving 6 years ago. So she promised herself one when she got through her training and got a full time job. So that came to fruition about a month ago :laugh: It was just about to board the boat when we went enquiring so only a 4 week wait.
Its actually quite nippy for a 1.8. Looking at the specs its 177bhp and 0-60 in 6.9. I know specs aren't everything but for comparison it seems quite good. She's delighted so that's the main thing :wink:
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Its just the base 1.8 Andy.
She's always wanted a white Audi TT since she started driving 6 years ago. So she promised herself one when she got through her training and got a full time job. So that came to fruition about a month ago :laugh: It was just about to board the boat when we went enquiring so only a 4 week wait.
Its actually quite nippy for a 1.8. Looking at the specs its 177bhp and 0-60 in 6.9. I know specs aren't everything but for comparison it seems quite good. She's delighted so that's the main thing :wink:
It's basically the same engine as the Polo GTI then which is quite a torquey thing, nice and easy to drive without having to be thrashed. That engine is used quite a bit in Audis and also the Scirocco now I think(?).
Fair play to the young lady and a well deserved reward. :smiley:
Tell her it remaps well! :laugh:
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I was exaggerating, jesus I wasn't expecting anyone to take it literally. I have no issues with VAG (I love them, I've grown up surrounded by them. I just would assume vag would make a car of that type and I like it, but don't), if I were to win the lottery my collection would have a few, mk2 g60, rallye, keep my mk6, get this new clubsport s, audi sport Quattro, and I would track down my dad's old mk2 gti. Etc. I have no issues with vag I just think tt's are awful.
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Currently speaking to carwow affiliate in Nuneaton turns out be contribution increased to 2k in addition to the 500 loyalty and the APR has dropped too to below 5%.
Waiting on sums to come through.
Asked for L grey leather (worth it with young kids) keyless Nav, carnet app and rear view camera.
Is car net worth it for an iPhone user
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Not buying but would like to: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C737897#
Got a very soft spot for the RS3100 but the prices are just too high for me now. :sad:
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Not buying but would like to: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C737897#
Got a very soft spot for the RS3100 but the prices are just too high for me now. :sad:
How much do these bullet capri fetch now appox Watts? I ask because (long story short) an old mate of mine had one when we were young un's and he went into meltdown and wrote it off. It was an absolute minter as well.
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I had 2 x Mk3's. A 2.0 and 2.8i
What a machine. Pity any time you put your foot down going round a corner the whole back end would go.
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Not buying but would like to: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C737897#
Got a very soft spot for the RS3100 but the prices are just too high for me now. :sad:
How much do these bullet capri fetch now appox Watts? I ask because (long story short) an old mate of mine had one when we were young un's and he went into meltdown and wrote it off. It was an absolute minter as well.
A good RS will be around £40k now. When I had my mk1 3.0 GT and needed parts I went to the Ford dealer in Strawberry Hill, Twickenham. They had front wings for RSs, should have bought them all as you could name your price for them now...
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I had 2 x Mk3's. A 2.0 and 2.8i
What a machine. Pity any time you put your foot down going round a corner the whole back end would go.
I had an Opel Manta 400 years ago with the same effect on bends. It was so much fun, loved it.
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Kind of left field but is it wrong that I quite like the new Merc C class coupe apart from the multimedia screen of course
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg.html)
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Kind of left field but is it wrong that I quite like the new Merc C class coupe apart from the multimedia screen of course
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg.html)
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/7FB6EE7C-5DF4-49CF-AD80-4B436EFCBFF4.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7FB6EE7C-5DF4-49CF-AD80-4B436EFCBFF4.jpg.html)
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I really like it, I also really like the screen... Not sure what that says about me but I bet this is one hell of a car in C63'S' AMG guise.
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Yeah the C63 AMG coupe I can only imagine would be awesome. One of my neighbours has a C63 AMG saloon and the noise that thing makes is insane :evil: :evil:. I would love one and you can pick a slightly older one up for reasonable money but the mpg is the killer. No way I could justify the running costs
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Kind of left field but is it wrong that I quite like the new Merc C class coupe apart from the multimedia screen of course
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg.html)
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/7FB6EE7C-5DF4-49CF-AD80-4B436EFCBFF4.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7FB6EE7C-5DF4-49CF-AD80-4B436EFCBFF4.jpg.html)
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Mercedes are making some really nice cars now. We nearly bought a CLS but in the end we bought an A7 last Tuesday.
The screen on the Mercedes looks so dated with the huge bezel.
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After the usual dilemmas and procrastination that comes with looking at next vehicle the order button has been pressed and its over and onto the forget about it completely and wait period.
Did consider the Tiguan but decided the SUV is maybe for another time as think was forcing myself to like it as was all new and shiney Edit:Will add that seeing larger cars go around the car parks that mainly use time and time again looking for perfect space did play a part, even the Golf can be tight at times when everyone is not perfectly aligned, so another reason why Golf is perfect in the real world day to day experiences.
Did look at A3 Sportback Quattro but the vanilla 1.8 was coming in on par with what finally selected in cost and it was only the 2.0 TDi Quattro that allowed any decent options - was not really sold anyway, but decision to pass was made easier for me
GTD was tempting again as its such a great car and it gives me money back (on company lease) and is economical but the lure of additional grip and performance was too much
GTI made the decision harder as a PP in CSG looks so good and gives me that performance lift but having owned Quattro the 4WD from pull away is what miss most so passed.
So, with BMW and Mercedes already excluded, this is what have ordered.
Golf R
Lapis Blue (As much as like black, am not Rebecca in how keeps so immaculate, so settled for signature colour)
5 Door (Must Have)
DSG (Must Have, fully converted to its virtues)
DCC (Have it now and with Prets was seen as must have)
Pretoria (probably not must have, but like them so much more than Cadiz that it became that way)
App Connect (Must have, as Apple family here, and with not optioning Sat Nav this time around its the go to)
Keyless (Swayed by the many here who love it, so giving a go, not must have but want to see for myself)
Rear Camera (Cope quite well on sensors but seen many a mention of helps line up on spaces, so as above, cheap option so trying myself)
So that it, glad to put that to bed and will just forget about now and enjoy the GTD till swap over.
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After the usual dilemmas and procrastination that comes with looking at next vehicle the order button has been pressed and its over and onto the forget about it completely and wait period.
Did consider the Tiguan but decided the SUV is maybe for another time as think was forcing myself to like it as was all new and shiney
Did look at A3 Sportback Quattro but the vanilla 1.8 was coming in on par with what finally selected in cost and it was only the 2.0 TDi Quattro that allowed any decent options - was not really sold anyway, but decision to pass was made easier for me
GTD was tempting again as its such a great car and it gives me money back (on company lease) and is economical but the lure of additional grip and performance was too much
GTI made the decision harder as a PP in CSG looks so good and gives me that performance lift but having owned Quattro the 4WD from pull away is what miss most so passed.
So, with BMW and Mercedes already excluded, this is what have ordered.
Golf R
Lapis Blue (As much as like black, am not Rebecca in how keeps so immaculate, so settled for signature colour)
5 Door (Must Have)
DSG (Must Have, fully converted to its virtues)
DCC (Have it now and with Prets was seen as must have)
Pretoria (probably not must have, but like them so much more than Cadiz that it became that way)
App Connect (Must have, as Apple family here, and with not optioning Sat Nav this time around its the go to)
Keyless (Swayed by the many here who love it, so giving a go, not must have but want to see for myself)
Rear Camera (Cope quite well on sensors but seen many a mention of helps line up on spaces, so as above, cheap option so trying myself)
So that it, glad to put that to bed and will just forget about now and enjoy the GTD till swap over.
Good decision and good choice of options :smiley:
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Kind of left field but is it wrong that I quite like the new Merc C class coupe apart from the multimedia screen of course
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A2BCBB60-E47A-45EA-8C1A-7DB33ACBC504.jpg.html)
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Is it me or does that remind me of a Renault from the back?
Sort of cross between a Laguna and a Scirocco R line.
I quite like it though.
I actually think the screen is quite a good idea as you get quite a handsome dash design and then a screen which is in a much more useful place than the Golf's which is tucked down out of the way too far. I gave up using the rear camera on my GTI as it involved me trying to look out the back window, then scan across to the mirrors then down to the screen and rinse and repeat as necessary. To any onlookers it probably looked like i was having a funny turn every time I went backwards. James Bond never looks that uncool when he reverses. :whistle:
I wouldn't buy one though. I've never quite got around the idea of having a car as long as a canal barge yet it only has two doors. If you're going to buy a sports car and only need two doors then why not buy a proper sports car? If you want something the size of the Ark Royal then you may as well have proper access to the back seats as you'll obviously need to use the back seats or you'd not bother buying something that size. Or am I just out of touch as usual?
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Back on topic.
I do love Capris which are nearly as cool as Mercedes saloons thinly disguised as Sports Coupes.
I'm surprised there are any Capris left now as they were pretty rusty a few years down the line from new never mind 20 or 30 or 40 years even further down the line.
I had a couple friends with V6 Capris and loved the noise they made and the fact you could wheel-spin them at will at any time. Well i was young at the time so simple things like that impressed me!
Ok, I'll admit it, they still do impress me.
My first car was a mk1 Scirocco and I wonder what they're worth now if there are any left. They shared a Capri and Alfa trait in that they turned all brown and holey after a few years.
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Back on topic.
I do love Capris which are nearly as cool as Mercedes saloons thinly disguised as Sports Coupes.
I'm surprised there are any Capris left now as they were pretty rusty a few years down the line from new never mind 20 or 30 or 40 years even further down the line.
I had a couple friends with V6 Capris and loved the noise they made and the fact you could wheel-spin them at will at any time. Well i was young at the time so simple things like that impressed me!
Ok, I'll admit it, they still do impress me.
My first car was a mk1 Scirocco and I wonder what they're worth now if there are any left. They shared a Capri and Alfa trait in that they turned all brown and holey after a few years.
Had a 2.0 S but never really took to it, looked lovely in blue (did have some rust spots even at comparatively new) but never really liked the ride, drive and was awful in wet and visibility was not great either.
Did like the 2.8 though and the Police used them unmarked as found out the hard way :smiley:
Wanted an RS2000 (yes the Professionals inspired both the Capri and wanting this) and was saving but one mad summer went and bought a nearly new MG Midget on impulse so that was end of that, as actually really like the MG, suited my single days, though sadly them days long gone haha and its sensibility now, well that was until just pushed button on an R (still have the buzz so forgive me!)
Other cars liked at time were mainly friends, a Lancia Delta, till it capitulated in a pile of rust, and a Renault 17, strange car but fun all the same. The most car envy had for a friend was a Scirocco Storm, loved that car.
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Had a build date confirmed as early October for the M2 so should be here for Nov, got 3-4 weeks to confirm the specification
Going to enjoy the R for the summer
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Back on topic.
I do love Capris which are nearly as cool as Mercedes saloons thinly disguised as Sports Coupes.
I'm surprised there are any Capris left now as they were pretty rusty a few years down the line from new never mind 20 or 30 or 40 years even further down the line.
I had a couple friends with V6 Capris and loved the noise they made and the fact you could wheel-spin them at will at any time. Well i was young at the time so simple things like that impressed me!
Ok, I'll admit it, they still do impress me.
My first car was a mk1 Scirocco and I wonder what they're worth now if there are any left. They shared a Capri and Alfa trait in that they turned all brown and holey after a few years.
Had a 2.0 S but never really took to it, looked lovely in blue (did have some rust spots even at comparatively new) but never really liked the ride, drive and was awful in wet and visibility was not great either.
Did like the 2.8 though and the Police used them unmarked as found out the hard way :smiley:
Wanted an RS2000 (yes the Professionals inspired both the Capri and wanting this) and was saving but one mad summer went and bought a nearly new MG Midget on impulse so that was end of that, as actually really like the MG, suited my single days, though sadly them days long gone haha and its sensibility now, well that was until just pushed button on an R (still have the buzz so forgive me!)
Other cars liked at time were mainly friends, a Lancia Delta, till it capitulated in a pile of rust, and a Renault 17, strange car but fun all the same. The most car envy had for a friend was a Scirocco Storm, loved that car.
I think your shiny blue R will impress you no end too, it's a pretty amazing package when you look back at cars like those and think how far technology has come.
Had a build date confirmed as early October for the M2 so should be here for Nov, got 3-4 weeks to confirm the specification
Going to enjoy the R for the summer
And still have another R for the winter!
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Golf due to px on Thursday for purchase of BMW F30 335d xdrive (313bhp & 630 nm torque) + 4 WD
Can't wait
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Can't wait
Doesn't sound like you're saying a reluctant goodbye to the GTD!
I had the use of a brand new 335d x-drive for a few hours a year or two ago. Hardly a long term assessment but it was certainly a fun few hours testing out the launch control etc!
Beast of an engine.
A colleague of mine launched it and it felt like a jet taking off from the passenger seat.
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Can't wait
Doesn't sound like you're saying a reluctant goodbye to the GTD!
I had the use of a brand new 335d x-drive for a few hours a year or two ago. Hardly a long term assessment but it was certainly a fun few hours testing out the launch control etc!
Beast of an engine.
A colleague of mine launched it and it felt like a jet taking off from the passenger seat.
No not really I have had 2 535d's in the past and miss the power & torque. The GTD was the best available when I traded my E63 v8. It's a nice car but never quick enough even with the Dtuk box, I find the throttle response naff & driving in normal mode only getting 45 mpg. The 335d will return 40 mpg all day long with power on tap. My 535d return 32 even when driving like you stole it! The 8 speed box is a dream and it's just point & go unlike the GTD which is point wait then go
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Can't wait
Doesn't sound like you're saying a reluctant goodbye to the GTD!
I had the use of a brand new 335d x-drive for a few hours a year or two ago. Hardly a long term assessment but it was certainly a fun few hours testing out the launch control etc!
Beast of an engine.
A colleague of mine launched it and it felt like a jet taking off from the passenger seat.
No not really I have had 2 535d's in the past and miss the power & torque. The GTD was the best available when I traded my E63 v8. It's a nice car but never quick enough even with the Dtuk box, I find the throttle response naff & driving in normal mode only getting 45 mpg. The 335d will return 40 mpg all day long with power on tap. My 535d return 32 even when driving like you stole it! The 8 speed box is a dream and it's just point & go unlike the GTD which is point wait then go
A comparatively weedy GTD engine would never hope to compete with any of those type of vehicles, a different league altogether.
The engine response with a DTUK PedalBox is completely transformed but you still wouldn't have the lungs of a big six or eight cylinder engine no matter what you do as you're well aware!
Onwards and upwards and good luck with the new steed, an excellent choice of vehicle :afro:
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Can't wait
Doesn't sound like you're saying a reluctant goodbye to the GTD!
I had the use of a brand new 335d x-drive for a few hours a year or two ago. Hardly a long term assessment but it was certainly a fun few hours testing out the launch control etc!
Beast of an engine.
A colleague of mine launched it and it felt like a jet taking off from the passenger seat.
No not really I have had 2 535d's in the past and miss the power & torque. The GTD was the best available when I traded my E63 v8. It's a nice car but never quick enough even with the Dtuk box, I find the throttle response naff & driving in normal mode only getting 45 mpg. The 335d will return 40 mpg all day long with power on tap. My 535d return 32 even when driving like you stole it! The 8 speed box is a dream and it's just point & go unlike the GTD which is point wait then go
A comparatively weedy GTD engine would never hope to compete with any of those type of vehicles, a different league altogether.
The engine response with a DTUK PedalBox is completely transformed but you still wouldn't have the lungs of a big six or eight cylinder engine no matter what you do as you're well aware!
Onwards and upwards and good luck with the new steed, an excellent choice of vehicle :afro:
Thank you I will still be around on the forum & hopefully someone will buy winter wheels in the classified section. Such a bargain
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Spent 2 hours in VW on Saturday while we 'went through my account' which lead to basically pricing up a clubsport. I got the sense they were trying to get rid of them before the 'facelift' comes out. I really wanted the LCD screen which these dont have but i still asked to see what the price was.
Anyway long story short, forget it lol, £490p/m with a £7.5k deposit. I can get an RS3 for much less than that a month, its just not worth it, so my minds made up, when the facelift order books open, RS3 it is :)
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Spent 2 hours in VW on Saturday while we 'went through my account' which lead to basically pricing up a clubsport. I got the sense they were trying to get rid of them before the 'facelift' comes out. I really wanted the LCD screen which these dont have but i still asked to see what the price was.
Anyway long story short, forget it lol, £490p/m with a £7.5k deposit. I can get an RS3 for much less than that a month, its just not worth it, so my minds made up, when the facelift order books open, RS3 it is :)
I had the same issue. It's a sham. I'm looking at an obvious choice of a r but trying to see if there are any other suitable options.
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Spent 2 hours in VW on Saturday while we 'went through my account' which lead to basically pricing up a clubsport. I got the sense they were trying to get rid of them before the 'facelift' comes out. I really wanted the LCD screen which these dont have but i still asked to see what the price was.
Anyway long story short, forget it lol, £490p/m with a £7.5k deposit. I can get an RS3 for much less than that a month, its just not worth it, so my minds made up, when the facelift order books open, RS3 it is :)
What sort of figures are RS3s coming in at per month?
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not sure if this will link but its about £450p/m https://www.audi.co.uk/explore-models/finance-calculator.html#/calculator?range=A3&model=RS%203%20Sportback&trim=RS3%20Navigation&modelCode=8VARSY%5C1%5CGPNUPNU%5CGYEFYEF&productType=SOLUTIONS&deposit=7500&mileage=15&period=42
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oh yeah and the £490 was over 48 months! not my usual 42, so its even less in comparison.
So thats £50 more a month for a car with lets face it 90% of the time, 135bhp less... (new one should be 400bhp if it matches TTRS and even if not it will only be ecu change not hardware so remap the same)
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oh yeah and the £490 was over 48 months! not my usual 42, so its even less in comparison.
So thats £50 more a month for a car with lets face it 90% of the time, 135bhp less... (new one should be 400bhp if it matches TTRS and even if not it will only be ecu change not hardware so remap the same)
What a weird situation!
I certainly know which one I'd prefer!
RS3 in nice light grey colour :drool:
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Something bright for me, the free colour in the pre facelift was grey and it's the only one I see. So orange or yello would be cool :)
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I know it's not one that many considered but has anyone had any experience with the Touareg R line (262bhp).
Saw a personal lease deal for 250 (inc).
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I know it's not one that many considered but has anyone had any experience with the Touareg R line (262bhp).
Saw a personal lease deal for 250 (inc).
A bit of a monster and not a bad price too.
Definitely the sort of thing you'd probably only ever consider getting if it was on a lease and I'd certainly consider one at that price if I was in the market for a new vehicle.
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I know it's not one that many considered but has anyone had any experience with the Touareg R line (262bhp).
Saw a personal lease deal for 250 (inc).
A bit of a monster and not a bad price too.
Definitely the sort of thing you'd probably only ever consider getting if it was on a lease and I'd certainly consider one at that price if I was in the market for a new vehicle.
Precisely my point, my only issue is delivery. My current PCP doesn't end until sept and the 250 is per month doesn't include upfront payment. I will need to check but in real money I think it equates to 350pcm.
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Got my figures from Carwow.
Appears that they have valued my golf (currently) at 15205 with an outstanding finance of approx 16500. Putting me in -ve equity.
With all discounts and contributions added to the deal with a 3.5k deposit my monthlies over 48 months work out to 407pcm.
Spec is as listed in one of my previous comments.
In real terms is this a good deal considering it has to be a factory order and if I wait until sept I will have paid off another grand but the pEx price would have dropped by the same amount.
The monthlies are affordable and in comparison over the course of 3 years In real money I would end up paying 30 pounds more a month then I am now. Even though the indicative monthlies are 80 quid more a month given I am paying a lesser deposit here.
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Back on topic.
I do love Capris which are nearly as cool as Mercedes saloons thinly disguised as Sports Coupes.
I'm surprised there are any Capris left now as they were pretty rusty a few years down the line from new never mind 20 or 30 or 40 years even further down the line.
I had a couple friends with V6 Capris and loved the noise they made and the fact you could wheel-spin them at will at any time. Well i was young at the time so simple things like that impressed me!
Ok, I'll admit it, they still do impress me.
My first car was a mk1 Scirocco and I wonder what they're worth now if there are any left. They shared a Capri and Alfa trait in that they turned all brown and holey after a few years.
I got chatting to one of the dads at my sons football and he has a Capri tucked away in his 'humidity controlled' garage that has only done 6.5k. His owned it from new. That I need to see.
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In response to the original question I will be buying....................another MK7, placed order today for another R :sick:
This will be my 3rd MK7 in 18 months, I really should try something else but there's honestly really nothing else I'd like :huh:
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In 2 years time will be looking for the same again, or maybe an end of line R or a MK8. Would possibly consider an M2 for the performance but probably couldn't live with the nasty driver image. cos I'm not.
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I love how all BMW drivers and all Audi drivers get labelled as a bunch of knobs. It's all a load of sh!t imo. I don't see a guy in a BMW and think that he's a twit, I tend to think that the guy/girl must be doing alright for themselves. I still see it as a relatively high end vehicle even if loads of them are used as rep mobiles. I come across plenty of other idiots driving other makes including VW owners
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Have to admit I have now met a few future M2 owners and on the whole a great bunch who are petrol heads
Just go on the R forum and there are plenty on there who fit the bill, ironically the R is the only car I have ever owned that i truly could not think of anything worse than going to a meet
if you want a M2 i'd put your deposit down now for end of 17
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I love how all BMW drivers and all Audi drivers get labelled as a bunch of knobs. It's all a load of sh!t imo. I don't see a guy in a BMW and think that he's a twit, I tend to think that the guy/girl must be doing alright for themselves. I still see it as a relatively high end vehicle even if loads of them are used as rep mobiles. I come across plenty of other idiots driving other makes including VW owners
Sorry they are great cars but that's the way it is. I've lost count of the times a 116D/118D/120D/320D/420D etc etc see the badge on my car and hey presto! I get tailgated, forced into driving faster than I should be going etc etc. There is some kind of superiority thing going on. Nasty.
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But I might still get an M2 and set an example by driving considerately :drool: :laugh:
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I love how all BMW drivers and all Audi drivers get labelled as a bunch of knobs. It's all a load of sh!t imo. I don't see a guy in a BMW and think that he's a twit, I tend to think that the guy/girl must be doing alright for themselves. I still see it as a relatively high end vehicle even if loads of them are used as rep mobiles. I come across plenty of other idiots driving other makes including VW owners
Sorry they are great cars but that's the way it is. I've lost count of the times a 116D/118D/120D/320D/420D etc etc see the badge on my car and hey presto! I get tailgated, forced into driving faster than I should be going etc etc. There is some kind of superiority thing going on. Nasty.
You do have a strong point.
There's something about those models that attract tosspot owners. Not all of them but a hell of a lot of them. Years ago it was Astra drivers that were of the same mentality but their offspring all seem to have developed an appetite for the aforementioned BMW models.
The bigger engined BMW models seem to attract a better clientele but you can guarantee if you pull up at a set of lights in a 30 or 40 limit with nothing behind you a 320 or 118 will pull up and insist on going in the outside lane. There's something in the owners mentality that they can't just slot in behind you in the knowledge that you're driving a sporty VW so you're not likely to be going to dawdle at 10mph below the limit thus hindering their self important progress.
And some owners of MK5 Golf GTIs seem to have a dreadful attitude and dangerous driving style too.
I find that a real shame as it's going to be a classic model and unfortunately a lot of them will end up buggered by nutter owners or crashed.
Mk5 GTI owners seem to fall into two categories: either very very good drivers or the polar opposite with nothing much in between. Or at least local to me they're like that.
I have a feeling mk7 Rs are going to be much like mk5 GTIs. Either thrashed or cherished.
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^^ Definitely an interesting one. Last night a chap in a Red MK7 R pulled up directly behind me at some traffic lights, and when I set off he was so close to my bumper I couldn't see his lights. He was desperate for me to indulge him in showing how much fast his car is than my standard GTI. I had my 9 month old baby in the car so I ended up pulling over and slowing down until he got bored and sodded off, but it really wound me up, it was so dangerous. I've found a lot of quick Golf drivers are just as bad. I don't find BMW drivers too bad, even though my Wife is one and she's a terrible driver!
All boils down to a big (or not as the case may be) willy waving exercise. (Sorry to the lovely ladies amongst us!)
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Maybe years ago it was nearly acceptable to stereotype drivers and folk could get away with calling Audi drivers cocks or asking BMW drivers if they bought the indicator option.
That has long gone and you can't look at a car and know what the driver will be like.
The worst experiences I've had has been with Golf drivers similar to JBirchy but I think its been another Golf just trying to show what he can do compared to a lower Golf.
Or maybe its just stuck in my mind because its been a Golf.
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Some of the worst drivers I've come across on the roads have been Golf drivers. Which is something given how many c0cks there are on the roads! They were in Mk 4's (clearly chipped) and driving so dangerously it was unreal. I don't think the stereotypes really exist anymore, it just seems there are far more pr!cks on the road full stop, regardless of badge.
I know its childish but the simplest way to stop a tailgater is to slow right down (I don't mean brake test, just lift off the accelerator) - then drop it into 2nd/3rd and nail it! Rinse and repeat until they give up. Which they will as there's only so many times these douchebags will want to be mugged off as they won't be able to keep up! Simples :smiley:
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Golfs are best selling cars nowadays where as years ago they tended to be bought by slightly more discerning drivers and weren't even on company car lists for a lot of people.
So yes, with the leases and cheap PCP deals the world has moved on and there is more of a mix of idiots with generally very poor driving standards despite the driving test supposedly being harder than years ago.
Down here in the deep South West we're always 15 - 20 years behind everyone else anyway so my comments stand about BMW 320 drivers down this neck of the woods. I'll challenge any of you not to be convinced otherwise after a visit down this way!
That's before we get on to those that start driving in Cornwall and by the time they get to Exeter and the start of the motorway they have decided that only lorries go in the 'slow lane' and sit in the middle lane for the next two hours refusing to budge. :angry:
I've always maintained everyone should be tested every five years and anyone caught using a mobile whilst driving should get an automatic ban. There are just so many people I see driving whilst on the phone or texting it's unreal and it's so easy for the police to prove. You're caught, you're banned. Just like that. Use your mobile to call a cab, you're walking for a month, get someone else to collect the car.
I work with 'professional drivers' and they get constantly brainwashed on safety yet the general public have absolutely no concept of how the physics of nature work with the increasingly huge lorries and will happily cut in front of them leaving no room for error. And I'm not defending lorry drivers either as I've come across all sorts in my time.
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I know its childish but the simplest way to stop a tailgater is to slow right down (I don't mean brake test, just lift off the accelerator) - then drop it into 2nd/3rd and nail it! Rinse and repeat until they give up.
I find the best way (especially if they have a shiny car) is to give my windscreen several good washes. Doing what you suggest is just as stupid in my opinion. You'll spend more time looking in your mirror than the road ahead that you are accelerating into.
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Golfs are best selling cars nowadays where as years ago they tended to be bought by slightly more discerning drivers and weren't even on company car lists for a lot of people.
So yes, with the leases and cheap PCP deals the world has moved on and there is more of a mix of idiots with generally very poor driving standards despite the driving test supposedly being harder than years ago.
Down here in the deep South West we're always 15 - 20 years behind everyone else anyway so my comments stand about BMW 320 drivers down this neck of the woods. I'll challenge any of you not to be convinced otherwise after a visit down this way!
That's before we get on to those that start driving in Cornwall and by the time they get to Exeter and the start of the motorway they have decided that only lorries go in the 'slow lane' and sit in the middle lane for the next two hours refusing to budge. :angry:
I've always maintained everyone should be tested every five years and anyone caught using a mobile whilst driving should get an automatic ban. There are just so many people I see driving whilst on the phone or texting it's unreal and it's so easy for the police to prove. You're caught, you're banned. Just like that. Use your mobile to call a cab, you're walking for a month, get someone else to collect the car.
I work with 'professional drivers' and they get constantly brainwashed on safety yet the general public have absolutely no concept of how the physics of nature work with the increasingly huge lorries and will happily cut in front of them leaving no room for error. And I'm not defending lorry drivers either as I've come across all sorts in my time.
I will second Exonians comments. I notice when we get a rare sunny day or when holiday season starts we get an influx of bad drivers taking lots of chances on our B Roads. I don't like to discriminate, but it is Audi and BMW drivers more often than not.
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Golfs are best selling cars nowadays where as years ago they tended to be bought by slightly more discerning drivers and weren't even on company car lists for a lot of people.
So yes, with the leases and cheap PCP deals the world has moved on and there is more of a mix of idiots with generally very poor driving standards despite the driving test supposedly being harder than years ago.
Down here in the deep South West we're always 15 - 20 years behind everyone else anyway so my comments stand about BMW 320 drivers down this neck of the woods. I'll challenge any of you not to be convinced otherwise after a visit down this way!
That's before we get on to those that start driving in Cornwall and by the time they get to Exeter and the start of the motorway they have decided that only lorries go in the 'slow lane' and sit in the middle lane for the next two hours refusing to budge. :angry:
I've always maintained everyone should be tested every five years and anyone caught using a mobile whilst driving should get an automatic ban. There are just so many people I see driving whilst on the phone or texting it's unreal and it's so easy for the police to prove. You're caught, you're banned. Just like that. Use your mobile to call a cab, you're walking for a month, get someone else to collect the car.
I work with 'professional drivers' and they get constantly brainwashed on safety yet the general public have absolutely no concept of how the physics of nature work with the increasingly huge lorries and will happily cut in front of them leaving no room for error. And I'm not defending lorry drivers either as I've come across all sorts in my time.
I will second Exonians comments. I notice when we get a rare sunny day or when holiday season starts we get an influx of bad drivers taking lots of chances on our B Roads. I don't like to discriminate, but it is Audi and BMW drivers more often than not.
I will 2nd that brembo I'm up n down the uk all wk about 2k miles in my truck and yes it'd nearly always a Bmw or Audi that does something stupid n dangerous although expected it still begets belief at times and no doubt they have had my horns a time or 100 lol
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I know its childish but the simplest way to stop a tailgater is to slow right down (I don't mean brake test, just lift off the accelerator) - then drop it into 2nd/3rd and nail it! Rinse and repeat until they give up.
I find the best way (especially if they have a shiny car) is to give my windscreen several good washes. Doing what you suggest is just as stupid in my opinion. You'll spend more time looking in your mirror than the road ahead that you are accelerating into.
I constantly check my mirrors as per the highway code and so I'm fully aware of what is around, so its not a problem for me :smiley:
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I know its childish but the simplest way to stop a tailgater is to slow right down (I don't mean brake test, just lift off the accelerator) - then drop it into 2nd/3rd and nail it! Rinse and repeat until they give up.
I find the best way (especially if they have a shiny car) is to give my windscreen several good washes. Doing what you suggest is just as stupid in my opinion. You'll spend more time looking in your mirror than the road ahead that you are accelerating into.
I constantly check my mirrors as per the highway code and so I'm fully aware of what is around, so its not a problem for me :smiley:
I would say Matchboys technique of handling tailgaters does work. I have partaken in this method of dealing with tailgaters myself in the past. We usually get holiday makers driving flash cars you never see in this neck of the woods any other time of the year riding on your back bumper and overtaking 5 or 6 cars a time on B roads where there are brows of hills and blind bends. It is shear lunacy. Even when another car is approaching on a country B road you see them deciding to push it to the last second and then when an accident is almost definitely about to happen they pull in the last second and live for another day... I also have to say it is usually BMW & Audi drivers you see doing this.... Yet there is the odd occasion you also see an under powered wreck trying the same thing and when you see it, you most definitely start to prepare for the inevitable and drop right back from the car in front so you are not involved as well.
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I know its childish but the simplest way to stop a tailgater is to slow right down (I don't mean brake test, just lift off the accelerator) - then drop it into 2nd/3rd and nail it! Rinse and repeat until they give up.
I find the best way (especially if they have a shiny car) is to give my windscreen several good washes. Doing what you suggest is just as stupid in my opinion. You'll spend more time looking in your mirror than the road ahead that you are accelerating into.
I constantly check my mirrors as per the highway code and so I'm fully aware of what is around, so its not a problem for me :smiley:
I would say Matchboys technique of handling tailgaters does work. I have partaken in this method of dealing with tailgaters myself in the past. We usually get holiday makers driving flash cars you never see in this neck of the woods any other time of the year riding on your back bumper and overtaking 5 or 6 cars a time on B roads where there are brows of hills and blind bends. It is shear lunacy. Even when another car is approaching on a country B road you see them deciding to push it to the last second and then when an accident is almost definitely about to happen they pull in the last second and live for another day... I also have to say it is usually BMW & Audi drivers you see doing this.... Yet there is the odd occasion you also see an under powered wreck trying the same thing and when you see it, you most definitely start to prepare for the inevitable and drop right back from the car in front so you are not involved as well.
Check out the link in this thread: http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/14013-how-to-be-a-bmw-driver/
Sums it up pretty well!
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
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Good news JB!
It's good to hear your thoughts on some of the features too as for those of us that don't want a car *quite* that big, it'll be on the next round of Golf updates.
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
Glad you were impressed with the Tiguan, thats the spec we've ordered to replace the GTI, a standard SEL with only the park assist and rear camera as well as dynaudio, we've gone for Indium grey. I popped in to Stourbridge VW last week who had a white R line awaiting prep but i must say i was pleasantly surprised at how good looking they are! The R line looks really aggressive in real life.
I've had a testdrive in a couple of 07 Mini coopers this weekend, one with very high spec but needs new rear discs and pads and also has an issue with jumping out if second gear, and another one with lower spec and a slipping clutch! :rolleyes:
Gave a guy at mini works a call about the first ones gearbox who says it's quite a common problem with cars of that age and he's replaced a few "selectors" in the past, approx £300 for the part and an hrs labour, i've made an offer on it but they have another viewing booked so i doubt i'll get it tbh, it's been ages since i've driven a car without a turbo! :laugh:
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
Glad you were impressed with the Tiguan, thats the spec we've ordered to replace the GTI, a standard SEL with only the park assist and rear camera as well as dynaudio, we've gone for Indium grey. I popped in to Stourbridge VW last week who had a white R line awaiting prep but i must say i was pleasantly surprised at how good looking they are! The R line looks really aggressive in real life.
I've had a testdrive in a couple of 07 Mini coopers this weekend, one with very high spec but needs new rear discs and pads and also has an issue with jumping out if second gear, and another one with lower spec and a slipping clutch! :rolleyes:
Gave a guy at mini works a call about the first ones gearbox who says it's quite a common problem with cars of that age and he's replaced a few "selectors" in the past, approx £300 for the part and an hrs labour, i've made an offer on it but they have another viewing booked so i doubt i'll get it tbh, it's been ages since i've driven a car without a turbo! :laugh:
"when" I change my car if I get a Tiguan it will definitely be an R line. Salesman said that could well be a few more engine options coming here over the next 12 months including a Bi Turbo Tsi 2.0l petrol with around 250bhp 😛👍
*UPDATE* Found a R line this morning 👍👍👍
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thats the spec we've ordered to replace the GTI,
Jeez, how many cars have you got through recently Jimble???
I'm still looking and smiling at my most recent mod. The .:R rear LEDs that came off your 6 GTI.
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
You can move the angle of the HUD you know. If you couldn't then how the hell could people using different seating positions use it.
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
You can move the angle of the HUD you know. If you couldn't then how the hell could people using different seating positions use it.
The R Line Tiguan was on my final list of 3 cars as its a real looker with decent specification and sure would have been happy with ordering one if there was not just this huge R itch to scratch and just know I would be sitting at lights in my nice shiny Tiguan R looking over at the R next to me and wishing chose that! It was win win really but even seeing that photo very happy pushed the button on the Golf R
Might be my next one though depending how the R goes as really do like the Tiguan R Line, think they nailed it really for that type of vehicle.
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
You can move the angle of the HUD you know. If you couldn't then how the hell could people using different seating positions use it.
That's as maybe and would help some but personally, I just think it's an expensive gimmick and didn't like it at all.
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I kinda get why any of us here who love performance Golfs would like a powerful BMW or a Jag but I don't understand why anyone would want to go from a performance Golf to a pseudo 4WD low end small SUV, whether its made by VW or not.
If you're gonna drop top dollar on a chelsea tractor, why not make it a real one?
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Been to my dealer today and had a test drive in a new Tiguan. Very refined and composed on the road and overall a very pleasant place to be. Digital dash is excellent and clarity very good. Didn't like the head up display, found myself having to crane my neck to see the display. Won't need to tick that box then !! Full size electric panoramic roof is epic and sliding and reclining individual rear seats mean that even with the drivers seat adjusted to my liking I still had loads of leg room. Only down side was they didn't have a RLine on site. I went out in a SEL on 19" wheels.
Looks like I may have found what I will be having next 👍👍 :whistle:
You can move the angle of the HUD you know. If you couldn't then how the hell could people using different seating positions use it.
That's as maybe and would help some but personally, I just think it's an expensive gimmick and didn't like it at all.
Not too sure on the display no matter how effective it is (another screen in my day!) let alone the HUD element which is really a gimmick of highest proportions and not something would ever select.
Think the displays will replace dials as standard though which think is a shame personally. But they will be much cheaper to produce once the R&D costs drop out of the equation.
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I kinda get why any of us here who love performance Golfs would like a powerful BMW or a Jag but I don't understand why anyone would want to go from a performance Golf to a pseudo 4WD low end small SUV, whether its made by VW or not.
If you're gonna drop top dollar on a chelsea tractor, why not make it a real one?
Pretty much why selected the R in the end, could just see myself sitting in my Tiguan wishing had the R next to me for all the reasons you would love an R
So Tiguan in addition to? a second car, then yes, but not quite ready for my slippers yet and really glad the new and shiny attraction of the Tiguan was replaced by more sensible thinking :)
Did look at Range Rover by the way, and unless buying the real top of range ones way out of my price bracket, was hugely underwhelmed by them
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Range Rovers have excellent residuals... not my cup of tea though, even if you can actually drive into/out of a muddy field in them.
I was looking at the weekend at people trying to park (badly) huge great big supertankers in the shopping centre multistory and thinking that I loved that my Golf was easy to park!
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Range Rovers have excellent residuals... not my cup of tea though, even if you can actually drive into/out of a muddy field in them.
I was looking at the weekend at people trying to park (badly) huge great big supertankers in the shopping centre multistory and thinking that I loved that my Golf was easy to park!
Its quite funny watching them go around and around looking for the perfect space! would drive me nuts if had to do that every time went anywhere, but you can understand why, as even the perfectly formed Golf can be quite tight in some places that visit, especially the multi stories with concrete posts every 3 bays.
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Range Rovers have excellent residuals... not my cup of tea though, even if you can actually drive into/out of a muddy field in them.
I was looking at the weekend at people trying to park (badly) huge great big supertankers in the shopping centre multistory and thinking that I loved that my Golf was easy to park!
Its quite funny watching them go around and around looking for the perfect space! would drive me nuts if had to do that every time went anywhere, but you can understand why, as even the perfectly formed Golf can be quite tight in some places that visit, especially the multi stories with concrete posts every 3 bays.
When I was driving a RR a few weeks ago I was waiting behind someone in their Ford Focus trying to get into a space. They took five or six attempts to get the car into the space before they gave up. I drove along side the car in front and reversed into the space in one go.
It is not always the cars size that has people driving around looking for a space.
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These weren't RR's they were trying to park.... one guy had an Audi estate - maybe an A6? Took 20 shuffles to get into the space and then couldn't get out.
Another was a woman in a Nissan Qrashkai - the big one, not the small one. She tried 4 spaces before driving away.
The final one was a young girl in a Ford Ranger pickup truck.... who almost hit me trying to get this thing into the space. How she made it under the height barrier at the entrance, I don't know.
Its a combination of ever decreasing space sizes vs the stupid things people choose to drive.
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These weren't RR's they were trying to park.... one guy had an Audi estate - maybe an A6? Took 20 shuffles to get into the space and then couldn't get out.
Another was a woman in a Nissan Qrashkai - the big one, not the small one. She tried 4 spaces before driving away.
The final one was a young girl in a Ford Ranger pickup truck.... who almost hit me trying to get this thing into the space. How she made it under the height barrier at the entrance, I don't know.
Its a combination of ever decreasing space sizes vs the stupid things people choose to drive.
Agree, its not always the size of the bay but the drivers themselves, as some really should not be allowed on the road or in car parks!
Must admit that given the low price was swayed to option the rear view camera as apparently it makes it easier to line up in some of these aforementioned tighter bays.
Have parked quite well without one for many years and never have issues in the Golf, so think it was the cheap price that had me pick it opposed to any need, which makes no sense at all I know, but maybe it will make things that touch easier as said same about auto hold and love that.
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I'm pretty tempted by the new Tiguan R-Line - as others on here. I think it looks really really nice. Tech looks intriguing and generous too. But I'm gonna hang on to see what the Mk8 GTI looks like first. Still plenty happy with my current Mk7 GTI (apart from occasionally struggling to get all its power and torque down through its front wheels - frustrating). Won't stretch to an R though. Running costs too high. I do about 12k miles per year.
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Cars that you sit higher up in are far easier to see out of and therefore position with far more accuracy. Reversing a trailer is much simpler when sitting higher up. I get a much better view of where I'm reversing my 7.2m caravan when I'm in a taller vehicle, than I do in my Passat.
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Wondered if someone can help,
I'm in the process of speccing and ordering my New R.
Spec I want is as follows:
5 door Dsg (Nav)
Limestone Grey
Rear view Camera
Car net app
Leather
Keyless
I have the following offers on the table
Lease on a factory order 5 door Dsg (Nav) with Keyless and rear view camera (8000 miles or month) at approximately inc tax and maintenance for the term at 299pcm with 2500 upfront. This gives a real money of £390.70 or 6000 miles at 289.45 pcm real money 381.55 (not including additional mileage but it works out the same) but it isn't the full spec I would ideally like.
The PCP via orangewheels is a 3k deposit at the spec I want over 48 months at 6000 miles a year at 354pcm (this includes the Deposit contribution but not loyalty which could bring the figures down slightly. But this doesn't include Tax and maintenance servicing tyres etc is obviously extra.
I currently have leathers on the GTD and find them very easy to wipe clean if the little one makes a mess. what are the standard seats like on the R. Comfort I appreciate are prob the same but what is the wear like over time. Any ideas? If I remove the Leathers from the equation the Monthly PCPs will decrease further and if I get them to throw in the loyalty discount in that that wil come down further.
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I currently have leathers on the GTD and find them very easy to wipe clean if the little one makes a mess. what are the standard seats like on the R. Comfort I appreciate are prob the same but what is the wear like over time. Any ideas? If I remove the Leathers from the equation the Monthly PCPs will decrease further and if I get them to throw in the loyalty discount in that that wil come down further.
Just a thought on the seats - I've just purchased some Gtechniq I1 to use on my seats to baby proof them! That's the aim anyway, should greatly improve the ease of cleaning at least. Going to treat some new trainers with it too :)
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I may give the GTechniq stuff a go on my R when I get it. The seats have Alcantara on them so although it is a great fabric to have it can be bugger to clean if certain things get on it. Awesome fabric, just requires a bit of care but still hard wearing enough for day to day use. :smiley:
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Thanks guys. Any opinion on the figures?
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I bought my Golf R outright with cash so have no real idea of PCP leasing and how to get the best out of it. I am sure the others on this forum will help you though.
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I can say the gtechniq fabric protection for seats works s treat. My late father in law spilt his coffee on the back seats and it sat on the top coating until wiped off.
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I bought my Golf R outright with cash so have no real idea of PCP leasing and how to get the best out of it. I am sure the others on this forum will help you though.
Bought mine outright too, for about £28k including Prets, Lapiz paint and the 5 year warranty. Hoping to sell it for at least £17.5k 3 years old, with the private buyer having the reassurance of 2 years warranty.
Although you can't guarantee it, i'd normally* expect at least a grand "equity" over and above your agreed GFV figure towards my next VW if PCPing - that's out of the window if you don't get another VW as any other marque dealership is almost certainly not going to give you as good a p/x price. So Equity has to be worth around £30pm in a lease vs PCP comparison. The general rule is lease if you're not hitting the options list and PCP if you are, as you'll be stumping up the full cost of those extras over 24 months, £2k extras will end up adding £83pm on a lease, or about £44pm on a 36 month PCP.
*I doubt if any R owner with the early sky-high GFV figures of £18k+ at 3 years will see any equity if 3 year old Rs end up retailing at £20-21k.
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I bought my Golf R outright with cash so have no real idea of PCP leasing and how to get the best out of it. I am sure the others on this forum will help you though.
Bought mine outright too, for about £28k including Prets, Lapiz paint and the 5 year warranty. Hoping to sell it for at least £17.5k 3 years old, with the private buyer having the reassurance of 2 years warranty.
Although you can't guarantee it, i'd normally* expect at least a grand "equity" over and above your agreed GFV figure towards my next VW if PCPing - that's out of the window if you don't get another VW as any other marque dealership is almost certainly not going to give you as good a p/x price. So Equity has to be worth around £30pm in a lease vs PCP comparison. The general rule is lease if you're not hitting the options list and PCP if you are, as you'll be stumping up the full cost of those extras over 24 months, £2k extras will end up adding £83pm on a lease, or about £44pm on a 36 month PCP.
*I doubt if any R owner with the early sky-high GFV figures of £18k+ at 3 years will see any equity if 3 year old Rs end up retailing at £20-21k.
Thanks MH for the input. I'm going to have a think over the weekend and order on Monday/Tuesday.
Lease has the benefit of fully maintained and taxed throughout the term so includes at least one set of tyres and service.
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MisterP: At 6k miles PA, i'd take the cost of tyres out of the equation - on that 2 year lease, the fronts might not even be worn down at the end, and would only need a single long life service. If you keep the car 3 or 4 years you might not need another set of tyres if you rotate fronts to backs for a total of 24k miles done in 4 years.
Maintenance/tyres/tax (lease) vs PCP comes down to 2 years of your PCP costing you 1 tax disc (in addition to the one that comes with the car) at £185 and £287 cost of a 2 year service pack - That's £20pm over 2 years that the first 2 years of PCP costs vs a 24 month lease.
Is there much in the monthlies between a 3 year PCP and 4 years? Usually there isn't because you get a much better GFV on 3 years. 4 years is a long commitment, and year 4 will be reliant on a goodwill gesture to warrant anything that fails as well as the hassle of an MOT. If you went 3 years and rotated your tyres, you almost certainly wouldn't burn through a set having done 18k miles.
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My GTD lease ends late October and will be extremely sad to see it go, it's an excellent all rounder and a "sweet looking ride" (as my neighbours 5yr old granddaughter told me recently!).
But as much as I like it I fancy a change, so have ordered a Passat GT DSG estate in pure white with black/moonrock interior.
Another 2yr personal lease from the excellent chaps at Parkway and as it will be a 2017 model it will have the pano roof and active info display as std.
Quite excited, in a boring pipe and slippers kind of way :grin:
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MisterP: At 6k miles PA, i'd take the cost of tyres out of the equation - on that 2 year lease, the fronts might not even be worn down at the end, and would only need a single long life service. If you keep the car 3 or 4 years you might not need another set of tyres if you rotate fronts to backs for a total of 24k miles done in 4 years.
Maintenance/tyres/tax (lease) vs PCP comes down to 2 years of your PCP costing you 1 tax disc (in addition to the one that comes with the car) at £185 and £287 cost of a 2 year service pack - That's £20pm over 2 years that the first 2 years of PCP costs vs a 24 month lease.
Is there much in the monthlies between a 3 year PCP and 4 years? Usually there isn't because you get a much better GFV on 3 years. 4 years is a long commitment, and year 4 will be reliant on a goodwill gesture to warrant anything that fails as well as the hassle of an MOT. If you went 3 years and rotated your tyres, you almost certainly wouldn't burn through a set having done 18k miles.
Thanks MH.
I'm more likely to do between 8k-10k pa. it's why I factored them in but I see your point. I'm going to ask the question tomorrow about 3 and 4 years tomorrow. Especially if I am going to drop the leathers would reduce my monthlies further. Let's see my concern is having any equity left especially after everything that has gone on with GFV.
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My GTD lease ends late October and will be extremely sad to see it go, it's an excellent all rounder and a "sweet looking ride" (as my neighbours 5yr old granddaughter told me recently!).
But as much as I like it I fancy a change, so have ordered a Passat GT DSG estate in pure white with black/moonrock interior.
Another 2yr personal lease from the excellent chaps at Parkway and as it will be a 2017 model it will have the pano roof and active info display as std.
Quite excited, in a boring pipe and slippers kind of way :grin:
My 75 year old dad has the same car albeit a saloon and it's the top spec model.
Pipe and slippers sums it up nicely.
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My GTD lease ends late October and will be extremely sad to see it go, it's an excellent all rounder and a "sweet looking ride" (as my neighbours 5yr old granddaughter told me recently!).
But as much as I like it I fancy a change, so have ordered a Passat GT DSG estate in pure white with black/moonrock interior.
Another 2yr personal lease from the excellent chaps at Parkway and as it will be a 2017 model it will have the pano roof and active info display as std.
Quite excited, in a boring pipe and slippers kind of way :grin:
My 75 year old dad has the same car albeit a saloon and it's the top spec model.
Pipe and slippers sums it up nicely.
:grin:
Well, I embarrassingly discovered that the Passat is just a touch too long for our garage, so the chaps at Parkway kindly swapped my into a Golf R Estate... for less money too! Arriving end of October.
Not a bad cock-up all round then :laugh:
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My GTD lease ends late October and will be extremely sad to see it go, it's an excellent all rounder and a "sweet looking ride" (as my neighbours 5yr old granddaughter told me recently!).
But as much as I like it I fancy a change, so have ordered a Passat GT DSG estate in pure white with black/moonrock interior.
Another 2yr personal lease from the excellent chaps at Parkway and as it will be a 2017 model it will have the pano roof and active info display as std.
Quite excited, in a boring pipe and slippers kind of way :grin:
My 75 year old dad has the same car albeit a saloon and it's the top spec model.
Pipe and slippers sums it up nicely.
:grin:
Well, I embarrassingly discovered that the Passat is just a touch too long for our garage, so the chaps at Parkway kindly swapped my into a Golf R Estate... for less money too! Arriving end of October.
Not a bad cock-up all round then :laugh:
Result!!
Can't say I'm a fan of the R estate but it's certainly an improvement over the Passat :smiley:
What colour R did you go for ?
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I think you were just looking for an excuse Justinius!! :grin:
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The Passat is a very fine looking car imo, especially in estate form. Estate proportions work far better in a car that size too imo.
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Up! Up! And awaaaaaaayyyyy...
As someone in a cape once said.
I popped down to my local VW emporium to have a nose around an up! this weekend.
I've always run an older second car to do trips to the shops, dump, ferrying kids about etc.
Bangernomics is great for the wallet, pick a car up for a few hundred to a couple of grand at best, run it on a shoestring for as long as possible then pick up another when it finally throws in the towel with an uneconomical repair.
My present second car is an old GTI picked up for £1600 about eight years ago when my long suffering £600 Polo GT threw in the towel.
Alas the current GTI has now just hit 100k miles and has started to leak oil from the head gasket. It's an external leak thankfully so it'll soldier on for a while and I'll retire it from main family transport and keep it as a rusty and dusty ornament to annoy the neighbours with.
So, what to replace it with? Another banger would be ideal but unfortunately with a 17 year old son on the insurance now as a very occasional user (he normally jumps on the bus but likes to keep his hand in with driving) it severely limits what cars I can insure.
Hence popping down to look at ups as VW are clearing the decks with current models therefore there are some cracking deals around.
Whilst having a nose around the dealership I noted there are quite a few sciroccos knocking around so will assume VW are doing a promotion on those too(?).
That got me thinking that I've always fancied a Scirocco but never bought one due to needing a 'family friendly' car.
As its a big dealership there are loads of cars on the forecourt and inside so with the thought in my mind that I could use a 5 door up! as a family car I could actually buy something less practical for myself as long as it could double up as back up family car for longer trips.
I looked at Tuaregs and Tiguans, Passats and Polos. All far too big, or slightly too small for the latter.
Then from there I looked around the other dealerships in the area, and there are surprisingly lots of them, then returned to the same conclusion.
There were lots of cars I liked 'in theory', out of ones that I could afford anyway.
But there was only one car I actually wanted to drive home in after an hour or so of nosing around Merc, BMW, SEAT, Honda, Renault etc
The black and blue Golf R's on the VW forecourt looked just that bit too discreet.
The red GTI on Santiagos looked far prettier but I've done the GTI thing (overdone you could say).
No, the White Golf I got into to actually drive home in was the only one I really wanted to drive home in out of all the cars I looked at.
Ok, the metallic grey R Line Scirocco 184TDI would have been nice too...
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Result!!
Can't say I'm a fan of the R estate but it's certainly an improvement over the Passat :smiley:
What colour R did you go for ?
Lol! I'm quite a fan of a practical estate, but like you much prefer the looks of the hatch in the case of the Golf.
Passat, imo, looks better as a wagon - especially with the pano roof.
However, the R estate was quite a few beer tokens cheaper than the hatch (plus I need DSG - std on estate R) as recent lease threads have shown. Had a choice of red or white - my current GTD's red so went white for a change.
Ironically, my lovely wife will probably go from her usual demure white to a similar shade of Tornado red when she finds out I've ordered it...
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I think you were just looking for an excuse Justinius!! :grin:
Haha, actually no - but I'm in no way upset :laugh: We have a utility area at the back of our garage and the Passat was just 9cm too long to shut the door. The R wagon will fit with about 10cm to spare.
The Passat is a very fine looking car imo, especially in estate form. Estate proportions work far better in a car that size too imo.
Agree, I saw one in night blue the other day and it looked great. Really lovely inside - especially with the revised Wk22 spec on the GT.
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Up! Up! And awaaaaaaayyyyy...
As someone in a cape once said.
I popped down to my local VW emporium to have a nose around an up! this weekend.
I've always run an older second car to do trips to the shops, dump, ferrying kids about etc.
Bangernomics is great for the wallet, pick a car up for a few hundred to a couple of grand at best, run it on a shoestring for as long as possible then pick up another when it finally throws in the towel with an uneconomical repair.
My present second car is an old GTI picked up for £1600 about eight years ago when my long suffering £600 Polo GT threw in the towel.
Alas the current GTI has now just hit 100k miles and has started to leak oil from the head gasket. It's an external leak thankfully so it'll soldier on for a while and I'll retire it from main family transport and keep it as a rusty and dusty ornament to annoy the neighbours with.
So, what to replace it with? Another banger would be ideal but unfortunately with a 17 year old son on the insurance now as a very occasional user (he normally jumps on the bus but likes to keep his hand in with driving) it severely limits what cars I can insure.
Hence popping down to look at ups as VW are clearing the decks with current models therefore there are some cracking deals around.
Whilst having a nose around the dealership I noted there are quite a few sciroccos knocking around so will assume VW are doing a promotion on those too(?).
That got me thinking that I've always fancied a Scirocco but never bought one due to needing a 'family friendly' car.
As its a big dealership there are loads of cars on the forecourt and inside so with the thought in my mind that I could use a 5 door up! as a family car I could actually buy something less practical for myself as long as it could double up as back up family car for longer trips.
I looked at Tuaregs and Tiguans, Passats and Polos. All far too big, or slightly too small for the latter.
Then from there I looked around the other dealerships in the area, and there are surprisingly lots of them, then returned to the same conclusion.
There were lots of cars I liked 'in theory', out of ones that I could afford anyway.
But there was only one car I actually wanted to drive home in after an hour or so of nosing around Merc, BMW, SEAT, Honda, Renault etc
The black and blue Golf R's on the VW forecourt looked just that bit too discreet.
The red GTI on Santiagos looked far prettier but I've done the GTI thing (overdone you could say).
No, the White Golf I got into to actually drive home in was the only one I really wanted to drive home in out of all the cars I looked at.
Ok, the metallic grey R Line Scirocco 184TDI would have been nice too...
After reading your post Exonian, i am glad I bought a white Golf R as well. cannot wait for the delivery of my new car, too excited. :laugh:
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definitely wont be a VW now due to Arnold Shark buying my 2 local dealers. Closest one is now in Perth which is an hours drive. I will probably be getting a BMW 320d M Sport or an Audi A4 S line
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Lol! I'm quite a fan of a practical estate, but like you much prefer the looks of the hatch in the case of the Golf.
Passat, imo, looks better as a wagon - especially with the pano roof.
However, the R estate was quite a few beer tokens cheaper than the hatch (plus I need DSG - std on estate R) as recent lease threads have shown. Had a choice of red or white - my current GTD's red so went white for a change.
Ironically, my lovely wife will probably go from her usual demure white to a similar shade of Tornado red when she finds out I've ordered it...
I have to admit I am really liking the Estate, always had a yearning for one since the early Avants and in some ways its winning me over more than the hatch, it is run in now and still goes like stink compared and is just plain rude for a load lugger to be able to be driven hard and I think the GTD and R estate carry the look off better than the normal estates due to the privacy glass
It is also going under the radar with most people asking if its a Passat
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definitely wont be a VW now due to Arnold Shark buying my 2 local dealers. Closest one is now in Perth which is an hours drive. I will probably be getting a BMW 320d M Sport or an Audi A4 S line
Ah another Arnold Clark fan...I'd be the same, i'd rather walk than buy another car from them! I'll be looking to buy an Audi S1 at some point. Either in blue or red with that fancy roof spoiler and upgraded seats and wheels. Then a stage 1 revo remap.
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Tiguan 2 SEL in tungsten silver with 2wd, DSG, rearview cam, park assist, keyless and towbar. Expensive compared to the GTI three years ago but extremely well equipped.
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Tiguan 2 SEL in tungsten silver with 2wd, DSG, rearview cam, park assist, keyless and towbar. Expensive compared to the GTI three years ago but extremely well equipped.
After our holiday, I'm seriously thinking of getting a Tiguan too.
We went on a touring holiday to the west of Ireland. We took my Mk6 GTD. We should have taken my wife's A3 on 16 inch tyres and standard suspension.
A couple of times , after a few Guinness, I ended up in the passenger seat of the GTD. Bump, bump... bump, bump... bump, bump. I felt sorry for my wife who normally sits in the passenger seat. I knew that the suspension was firm, but did not appreciate just how uncomfortable it could be. It was difficult to even do the speed limit in places.
GTD is supposed to mean Grand Touring Diesel. :undecided: Fine if you are only touring motorways or good A roads.
Sport suspension is fantastic on good roads. It is quite literally shocking on uneven roads. The only thing I am sure of now is that my next car will not have sports suspension. So the Tiguan is a good option. Though I would like a little more performance. So maybe the facelift A3 as I can specify standard suspension with a 190ps petrol or 184ps diesel engine.
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I was also considering either a diesel Octavia VRS or a Superb SEL. Too much like a taxi though!
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GTD is supposed to mean Grand Touring Diesel. :undecided: Fine if you are only touring motorways or good A roads.
Sport suspension is fantastic on good roads. It is quite literally shocking on uneven roads. The only thing I am sure of now is that my next car will not have sports suspension.
Should have spec'ed DCC...hit the comfort button and wallow like an oil tanker in a high sea. Good for the elderly with piles.
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Should have spec'ed DCC...hit the comfort button and wallow like an oil tanker in a high sea. Good for the elderly with piles.
... I did!
My car is definitely more comfortable than the Mk7 GTI we had on extended test drive. Neither are anywhere near as comfortable as my wife's new A3 on standard Dynamic suspension. Though I have to admit on a good road that GTI cornered brilliantly.
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Maybe a warm hatch isn't for you... although I have to say that I've never felt the suspension to be hard, harsh or any kind of problem.
I've no idea where you live, but the roads here are far from perfect but I don't feel the need for a 4x4 with long travel suspension yet...
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Tiguan 2 SEL in tungsten silver with 2wd, DSG, rearview cam, park assist, keyless and towbar. Expensive compared to the GTI three years ago but extremely well equipped.
After our holiday, I'm seriously thinking of getting a Tiguan too.
We went on a touring holiday to the west of Ireland. We took my Mk6 GTD. We should have taken my wife's A3 on 16 inch tyres and standard suspension.
A couple of times , after a few Guinness, I ended up in the passenger seat of the GTD. Bump, bump... bump, bump... bump, bump. I felt sorry for my wife who normally sits in the passenger seat. I knew that the suspension was firm, but did not appreciate just how uncomfortable it could be. It was difficult to even do the speed limit in places.
GTD is supposed to mean Grand Touring Diesel. :undecided: Fine if you are only touring motorways or good A roads.
Sport suspension is fantastic on good roads. It is quite literally shocking on uneven roads. The only thing I am sure of now is that my next car will not have sports suspension. So the Tiguan is a good option. Though I would like a little more performance. So maybe the facelift A3 as I can specify standard suspension with a 190ps petrol or 184ps diesel engine.
You were in my part of the world so! Hope you enjoyed the Guinness :wink:
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Maybe a warm hatch isn't for you... although I have to say that I've never felt the suspension to be hard, harsh or any kind of problem.
I've no idea where you live, but the roads here are far from perfect but I don't feel the need for a 4x4 with long travel suspension yet...
I bought the GTD before I married. Then moved to live in a rural location. The roads where we live are very uneven. I really should have changed the car years ago.
The thing is; I like the performance of the car. Unfortunately, performance usually comes with firm suspension.
As I usually keep my cars for around 6 years, it is important to me to try and get a car which ticks as many boxes as possible.
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Looking at changing soon.
Started off thinking must NOT spend more per month, but then got mission creep!
I still think the GTI is a fantastic car, i may yet keep it a few more years.
If not maybe a Golf R, Golf GTD (for different reasons obviously), BMW 440i (HUGE discounts), S3 (not sure which body style) or maybe even a TTS (if/when NAV becomes standard)....
Holding out until some more info is available on the Golf Face Lift / Mk8 until i decide.
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Started off thinking must NOT spend more per month, but then got mission creep!
Been suffering from mission creep too!!! Was looking at a facelift A3, then started reading reviews of the A4, then started reading new A5 reviews. I'm amazed how much cars are still improving.
I have got to set myself a limit!
Also waiting to see the Mk8 or facelift GTI.
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Started off thinking must NOT spend more per month, but then got mission creep!
Been suffering from mission creep too!!! Was looking at a facelift A3, then started reading reviews of the A4, then started reading new A5 reviews.
Hmmm...A4
Some good discounts, low APR (i'll be going the PCP route) and strong Audi Residuals/GFV.
Just looked at the numbers for an A4 S Line 3.0 TDI (272) quattro, which was not as expensive as i thought it'd be...
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Started off thinking must NOT spend more per month, but then got mission creep!
Been suffering from mission creep too!!! Was looking at a facelift A3, then started reading reviews of the A4, then started reading new A5 reviews.
Hmmm...A4
Some good discounts, low APR (i'll be going the PCP route) and strong Audi Residuals/GFV.
Just looked at the numbers for an A4 S Line 3.0 TDI (272) quattro, which was not as expensive as i thought it'd be...
Audi A4...I have just got one as a courtesy car, the wife's A1 has a split rubber upper door seal, as it tapers off towards the wing mirror. My mate has an A4 Saloon and raves about it, so I was surprised when I had to drive this one home from the Audi garage - it is a 2.0TDI Saloon, S-Line Black edition Quattro. Badging it isn't obvious what the variant engine is - i'm guessing the 190TDI Ultra by the performance. The driver's position is a bit claustrophobic - you feel very hemmed in as the dash and centre console wrap around you (must be worse for my mate as he is a right short-arse).
There is one thing about it that I don't think I could get used to, the pedal position is awful. All 3 pedals are very close together and to the right - my legs were diagonally to the right working the pedals when I thought about it. When I didn't think about the position of my feet, my left foot was hanging off the left side of the clutch pedal, so when I pressed the clutch pedal in, my foot was hitting the footrest (which is about 3 times the width of the Golf's to take up the redundant space in the footwell caused by the offset).
Awful pedal position!
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Although I've only had my GTI for 8 months I am already thinking of the next car :whistle:
Coming from an A4 Avant I sometimes miss the practicality of a wagon. I fancy an R estate but the non-LED tails and plain jane looks kind of put me off, maybe an S3 sportback, A6 estate or even a Skoda Superb 2.0T ..I have plenty of time to decide though. The best part about getting a new car is going and testing all "the contenders" !
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Had a good look at a Golf R estate at the weekend. Again not impressed by the lack of LED tail lights, and the fake quad exhausts. Looked at the Tiguan R line in white which looked really smart.
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Anyone taken delivery or ordered a Tiguan over an r. I received an offer for Dsg r line 150 for 230inc a month at 50 quid a month cheaper would make sense given the saving. That being said I appreciate 2 different cars.
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Recent experiences with my local Audi garage for recent warranty work on the wife's A1 are putting me right off Audi. The rubber door seal on the drivers side that runs across the top of the door and comes to a point around the wing mirror had split along the flexible edge, so it went in for a new one. They did a piss poor job of lining the new one up - it all bunched up at the wing mirror end, making the door hard to close. They also put 3 small dents on the windscreen pillar, right where it meets the troublesome bit of seal. I assumed some kind of clamp/stay for keeping the door held in the open position was to blame. They denied doing it. Seal 2 was fitted the other day and that isn't fitted right either, there's a bulge on the inside, which again makes the door hard to close. After going down there and having it out with the aftersales manager, they've agreed to fitting seal number 3 and repairing the indentations at the bodyshop. No apologies for time wasted or the damage.
And then I saw a brand new S3 on Hankooks - FFS!
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Recent experiences with my local Audi garage for recent warranty work on the wife's A1 are putting me right off Audi. The rubber door seal on the drivers side that runs across the top of the door and comes to a point around the wing mirror had split along the flexible edge, so it went in for a new one. They did a piss poor job of lining the new one up - it all bunched up at the wing mirror end, making the door hard to close. They also put 3 small dents on the windscreen pillar, right where it meets the troublesome bit of seal. I assumed some kind of clamp/stay for keeping the door held in the open position was to blame. They denied doing it. Seal 2 was fitted the other day and that isn't fitted right either, there's a bulge on the inside, which again makes the door hard to close. After going down there and having it out with the aftersales manager, they've agreed to fitting seal number 3 and repairing the indentations at the bodyshop. No apologies for time wasted or the damage.
And then I saw a brand new S3 on Hankooks - FFS!
Almost all dealers are crap - it's just the variation on how crap they are!
Also - Hankooks whilst not what I'd put on are apparently not too bad. Still what I'd class as somewhere between budget and mid range. I guess it's easier to hide an inferior tyre on something with 4wd.
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The brand new Hankooks are supposed to be a very good tyre. Can't remember what's it called but it was in vw driver magazine last month and when you look at the ratings online are better than the more expensive brands.
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I contacted select car leasing with a view to cancelling the r and taking the r line Tiguan on a 6+23 at 270 PCm.
Select are now refusing to refund the 300 deposit given that order has been placed. I've advised them that they haven't even got a build date yet so they can cancel with no issue they are not being left with a car they have to offload.
I'm waiting for the manager to call me to try and fob me off.
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With a whole raft of average speed cameras popping up at 2 major roads on my commute to enforce a 30mph speed limit on what was a 70mph road, i might just get a poxy little Aygo 1 litre as i'll have to do 30mph on dual carriageway along almost half of my commute. :evil:
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With a whole raft of average speed cameras popping up at 2 major roads on my commute to enforce a 30mph speed limit on what was a 70mph road, i might just get a poxy little Aygo 1 litre as i'll have to do 30mph on dual carriageway along almost half of my commute. :evil:
Mate bham council are testing the idea of replacing normal cameras to average speed. They are piloting 8 cameras of which 6 are on my route to and from work.
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Popped in my local BMW garage over the weekend to show the wife the 4 series Gran Coupe and ended up doing a deal on one :)
Had no real intention in ordering one but got a very good 3rd Quarter Deal on a car going into production allocated to the dealer (so they were keen to shift it to meet targets).
So gone for a 440i M Sport Gran Coupé in Alpine White, Corel Red Leather with black highlight and piano black trim.
Options: Advanced parking pack / Active security pack / Interior comfort pack / Innovation pack / M sport plus pack / Adaptive suspension / Variable Sport Steering
The car is scheduled for production so they are talking as early as the end of September for delivery.
I will of course be sad to see the M135i go but I fancied something a little more comfortable and grown up.
My dads recently got a similar spec 340i which I've had many drives of so I know what to expect especially from the new B58 engine.
So pretty excited right now and looking forward to the new car.
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That sounds like an amazing car Martin.
Good choice :afro:
Looking forward to seeing the pics
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So gone for a 440i M Sport Gran Coupé in Alpine White, Corel Red Leather with black highlight and piano black trim.
I have admit i really like these and prefer them to the coupe, wish they would make an M4 variant
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BMW M140i has just come on to my radar......Interesting :evil: !!
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I just ordered another mk7.... GTD this time.
Loved it with manual transmission during test drive but DSG in an Octavia convinced me to go for GTD DSG (at 40k miles a year manual is getting too cumbersome).
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BMW M140i has just come on to my radar......Interesting :evil: !!
I had an M135i for a while.They are insanely fast for the money.Now even faster,with more torque for the same price.
Speak to TRL (Tony Lewis) on the babybmw forum for the best discounts in the UK.He beats everyone. :cool:
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BMW M140i has just come on to my radar......Interesting :evil: !!
I had an M135i for a while.They are insanely fast for the money.Now even faster,with more torque for the same price.
Speak to TRL (Tony Lewis) on the babybmw forum for the best discounts in the UK.He beats everyone. :cool:
Thanks. I have already had a nose around on there and saw his name crop up a few times :smiley:
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BMW M140i has just come on to my radar......Interesting :evil: !!
I had an M135i for a while.They are insanely fast for the money.Now even faster,with more torque for the same price.
Speak to TRL (Tony Lewis) on the babybmw forum for the best discounts in the UK.He beats everyone. :cool:
Thanks. I have already had a nose around on there and saw his name crop up a few times :smiley:
TRLdeals@outlook.com
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BMW M140i has just come on to my radar......Interesting :evil: !!
I had an M135i for a while.They are insanely fast for the money.Now even faster,with more torque for the same price.
Speak to TRL (Tony Lewis) on the babybmw forum for the best discounts in the UK.He beats everyone. :cool:
Thanks. I have already had a nose around on there and saw his name crop up a few times :smiley:
TRLdeals@outlook.com
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Looks like my R is indefinitely delayed. Back to the drawing board as my GtD goes back to VWFS on 22/09. Need to find an alternative quickly.
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Looks like my R is indefinitely delayed. Back to the drawing board as my GtD goes back to VWFS on 22/09. Need to find an alternative quickly.
Why indefinitely delayed? My changeover still a few weeks yet start of November but heard nothing with regards delays,
Think my GTD would be extended in that situation. (company lease)
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Looks like my R is indefinitely delayed. Back to the drawing board as my GtD goes back to VWFS on 22/09. Need to find an alternative quickly.
Why indefinitely delayed? My changeover still a few weeks yet start of November but heard nothing with regards delays,
Think my GTD would be extended in that situation. (company lease)
Indefinitely was the words used by VW Customer Service. Prob is they will not have a proper update until atleast 2 weeks and it's 6 weeks from build to delivery taking me to atleast end of Nov.
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Looks like my R is indefinitely delayed. Back to the drawing board as my GtD goes back to VWFS on 22/09. Need to find an alternative quickly.
Why indefinitely delayed? My changeover still a few weeks yet start of November but heard nothing with regards delays,
Think my GTD would be extended in that situation. (company lease)
Indefinitely was the words used by VW Customer Service. Prob is they will not have a proper update until atleast 2 weeks and it's 6 weeks from build to delivery taking me to atleast end of Nov.
How long ago did you order the R?
Seems like I will likely be ok but if had to wait and they just extended the GTD it be fine with me, hardly suffering driving the GTD - Is it not possible for you to just continue with the GTD until order fulfilled? as no way you can order anything new in ten days and likely have to wait 6 weeks anyway at best
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We're trading in our mk7 GTD (red) for a white GTi with santiagos 😊
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I'm going over to a BMW M140i Auto 5 door. Always hankered after that big 3 litre straight six. It. Is. Insane :evil:
Negotiated an incredible discount on it. Taking November delivery.
I'll be really sad to see the GTI go, the car is incredible and still make me smile every time I drive it. So well sorted. Would have gone for an R but I just fancy a change from Volkswagen. For a now anyways...........
Maybe come back when the Mk8 R comes along. Ooh ooh that'd be nice :cool:
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I'm going over to a BMW M140i Auto 5 door. Always hankered after that big 3 litre straight six. It. Is. Insane :evil:
Negotiated an incredible discount on it. Taking November delivery.
I'll be really sad to see the GTI go, the car is incredible and still make me smile every time I drive it. So well sorted. Would have gone for an R but I just fancy a change from Volkswagen. For a now anyways...........
Maybe come back when the Mk8 R comes along. Ooh ooh that'd be nice :cool:
I had an M135i and it was the most bonkers little thug i've ever driven.It was quite a machine.
What colour have you gone for?.I had Estoril Blue.But the new (for the M140i) Melbourne Red looks really nice.
Just keep a keen eye on that tiny rear window for the Hawaii-Five-O on your tail.You get up to silly speeds without even trying. :shocked:
Good choice though.Very good choice. :cool:
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I'm going over to a BMW M140i Auto 5 door. Always hankered after that big 3 litre straight six. It. Is. Insane :evil:
Negotiated an incredible discount on it. Taking November delivery.
I'll be really sad to see the GTI go, the car is incredible and still make me smile every time I drive it. So well sorted. Would have gone for an R but I just fancy a change from Volkswagen. For a now anyways...........
Maybe come back when the Mk8 R comes along. Ooh ooh that'd be nice :cool:
I had an M135i and it was the most bonkers little thug i've ever driven.It was quite a machine.
What colour have you gone for?.I had Estoril Blue.But the new (for the M140i) Melbourne Red looks really nice.
Just keep a keen eye on that tiny rear window for the Hawaii-Five-O on your tail.You get up to silly speeds without even trying. :shocked:
Good choice though.Very good choice. :cool:
Ha ha funny. I will have to keep a very, very keen eye on the fuzz. Took it on a test drive. I could not believe how fast the thing was. Booted it on the motorway at 60 mph. Looked at speedo and it was nudging 100 in the blink of an eye. My test driving companion got a little sweaty at this point. Lol
I've gone for sleeper glacier silver. Innocuous and clean shaven.
Melbourne red did look nice but wasn't completely convinced tbh. Same with Valencia orange. Bit look at me - for me.
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Mjh VW won't allow me to keep the gtd as the new r on lease isn't funded by VWFS. So I either buy or hand back they come to collect on 22/09. My order was made in July with an estimated 12 week for delivery. On the online tracker I had a confirmed build date of 22/08. Called yday and they advised its not happening in the short term.
The lease company said that there is nothing they can do but offer me an alternative that they have in stock. They have offered an m240 for 303pcm with 9 months up front.
But my wife is due mid Dec and I can't be bothered with the inconvenience of lugging a car seat in to a 3 door.
I have in the short term (for hospital appointments etc) rented a 5 door polo for 55 for 7 days I will see if I can extend week on week.
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The M135i has gone and I collected my 440i Gran Coupe yesterday.
I'm a absolutely loving this car and really pleased with the addition of the m performance carbon rear spoiler and diffuser.
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That 4 series looks stunning and i really think BMW are missing a trick not doing a M4 variant as way nicer than the coupe and that engine is sublime
I've just been sorting the carbon bits from mine which turns up in a few weeks
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That looks absolutely superb Martin.
I really like the look of that.
I bet it goes and sounds as good as it looks too :afro:
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Well collection date has been agreed for two weeks on the M2 so can't wait
Treating the wife to First Class on the train to Bournemouth thanks to sensible deals online, i've told her to get through £20s worth of fodder to justify the cost.
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That looks absolutely superb Martin.
I really like the look of that.
I bet it goes and sounds as good as it looks too :afro:
Thanks mate.
Yes it's got a superb engine. I'm just running it in at the moment but I've had a couple of blasts up to 5k on the revs and it feels draw droppingly fast and sounds good to. No fake sound like the M135i as far as I can hear.
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Well collection date has been agreed for two weeks on the M2 so can't wait
Treating the wife to First Class on the train to Bournemouth thanks to sensible deals online, i've told her to get through £20s worth of fodder to justify the cost.
Lucky man. Looking forward to seeing some photos when it arrives.
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Well collection date has been agreed for two weeks on the M2 so can't wait
Treating the wife to First Class on the train to Bournemouth thanks to sensible deals online, i've told her to get through £20s worth of fodder to justify the cost.
Lucky man. Looking forward to seeing some photos when it arrives.
Nice to see a 4GC in white, I think white and silver show them off so well, my neighbour two down has one and just look lovely and so much sharper than my next door neighbour who has just had his 5 series.
Funnily enough I just said i had a little 2 series on order when i said i was selling one of the Rs
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Well collection date has been agreed for two weeks on the M2 so can't wait
Treating the wife to First Class on the train to Bournemouth thanks to sensible deals online, i've told her to get through £20s worth of fodder to justify the cost.
Lucky man. Looking forward to seeing some photos when it arrives.
Nice to see a 4GC in white, I think white and silver show them off so well, my neighbour two down has one and just look lovely and so much sharper than my next door neighbour who has just had his 5 series.
Funnily enough I just said i had a little 2 series on order when i said i was selling one of the Rs
I saw my very first M2 on the road on Friday evening just outside of Hamilton . It looked absolutely amazing, so aggressive from behind. I'm guessing it was LBB as that's the only blue that I'm aware of but it was a strange kind of turquoise type colour to my eyes. Still though :evil: :evil:
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I saw my very first M2 on the road on Friday evening just outside of Hamilton . It looked absolutely amazing, so aggressive from behind. I'm guessing it was LBB as that's the only blue that I'm aware of but it was a strange kind of turquoise type colour to my eyes. Still though :evil: :evil:
I originally ordered LBB but had doubts when I went to Geneva and then went to see one on the UK launch weekend, I changed to Mineral Grey as I it is too turquoise for my liking wanted carbon bits and for me does not suit.
Ironically last week I had a call as it appears my dealer has ordered me the original LBB in poverty spec by mistake and had to give me first option on that too but I declined as too much hassle trying to shift it quickly
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So other than an admin fee the M2 is the same price to insure as my R
Always love the insurance lottery and did not see that coming
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Taken delivery of the R. Will put my thoughts down later
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Taken delivery of the R. Will put my thoughts down later
Been confirmed as next week for me, and going to be really interesting to see how the reality matches up to what perceived to make me select the R.
Be interesting to see your thoughts in similar vein.
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Taken delivery of the R. Will put my thoughts down later
Been confirmed as next week for me, and going to be really interesting to see how the reality matches up to what perceived to make me select the R.
Be interesting to see your thoughts in similar vein.
First thoughts on my commute to work is that it's a wolf in sheeps clothes. Comfortable and understated but power on tap especially compared to GTD.
Better comments after 100 miles or so. Dropped the Mrs to work today. It was parked directly behind theGTD and she thought that it was standard compared to the GTD.
Also one gripe, my GTD used to mute the sound when I pressed the voice button on radio or steering whee. Now you get a message for voice activation. Anyone know if there is an easier way to mute as I don't have access to the VCDs.
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Taken delivery of the R. Will put my thoughts down later
Been confirmed as next week for me, and going to be really interesting to see how the reality matches up to what perceived to make me select the R.
Be interesting to see your thoughts in similar vein.
First thoughts on my commute to work is that it's a wolf in sheeps clothes. Comfortable and understated but power on tap especially compared to GTD.
Better comments after 100 miles or so. Dropped the Mrs to work today. It was parked directly behind theGTD and she thought that it was standard compared to the GTD.
Also one gripe, my GTD used to mute the sound when I pressed the voice button on radio or steering whee. Now you get a message for voice activation. Anyone know if there is an easier way to mute as I don't have access to the VCDs.
One of my wishes was that it retained the level of comfort that presently used to on the 19" Pretoria and slightly lower ride of the R
On GTD, the DCC in comfort is really cushioned and normal is more than acceptable so was hoping the R will maybe give me the GTD 'normal' in the 'comfort' setting on the R.
Its one of reasons love the car, in that is can be a comfortable day to day commute and with a few quick selections it will be that wolf you describe.
I do want best of both worlds, 2 cars in one, and its reason selected the DCC.
As for understated, well the more the better really for me, though think Lapiz on Pretoria is going to catch more attention that my present white GTD
Look forward to the 100 mile check in, and a photo maybe too :)
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Some light reading :wink:
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That M2 looks stunning, id leave reading the book until until the winter.
I bet it's frightening in the ice or snow!
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I saw an M2 that had just been delivered as a demo back in April at Mill garages car clinic at Boldon. Looked really nice especially in the Blue.
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Picked up the 2 series from the detailers today which was the first time I got to look at it from a distance
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Beast!
I do like that.
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Picked up the 2 series from the detailers today which was the first time I got to look at it from a distance
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Look fabulous wigit. That's a serious motor! :cool:
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I have sorted the pics out sorry
Beast!
I do like that.
It is a nice place to be, I should have a video of the exhaust on start up which is just rude
Look fabulous wigit. That's a serious motor! :cool:
Why thank you my detailer did a great job
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Wow that looks and can imagine sounds amazing
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Welcome to the M2 Club!
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I will keep my new mk7 for as long as Im happy with it OR technology gives us fully computerised drive cars.
If I was forced into choosing something else it would be a Tiguan or similar.
Interesting how many cars are rented/leased/hired by their actual drivers, over 85% according to my dealer.
If there is ever a credit crash/recession would a lot of rented/leased cars be going back to their legal owners and onto the secondhand market pdq - now there's a thought :huh:
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Picked up the 2 series from the detailers today which was the first time I got to look at it from a distance
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Looks stunning and very aggressive :cool:
You must be delighted with it :smiley:
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Quite like the look of a Mercedes Benz GLA AMG Line with the Premium Plus pack. Out of curiosity I went to my local Mercedes dealer the other day and was very impressed with the overall build quality. Their interiors have improved no end and are a very nice place to park your backside !!