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General => The garage => Topic started by: RTechUK on 30 June 2010, 18:50
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R-Tech Spec1 custom remap S3 K04-023 270bhp with TIP
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Golf Mk3 1.8T Audi S3 AMK engine k04-023[/b] R-Tech Custom Remap session-v1 270bhp 275lbft MAF flow 219gs @ 1.2bar
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2005 Mk5 GTI 2.0TFSI 197bhp R-Tech Custom Rolling Road Remap session.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1479.jpg)
Stock power made 206bhp 234lbft for some reason the car made high stock torque output, it should be around 205lbft?
So we carried out a full data logging session to find out why the torque was so high on a stock power run. Our findings where that the N75 boost controller was a little lazy and was reacting slow, causing the boost to over shoot and the ecu pid controllers react to late.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1474.jpg)
Next step was to take all the logged data and produce a spec1 base map based on the compiled data.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1476.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1473.jpg)
During logging and loaded power runs we found a major flat spot at 5000rpm, which also can be seen in the stock map so the remap has brought the issues to light. We made another 4 map version to try and iron out the issue, but only made the flat spot worse, as this point we put the flat spot down to hardware. After looking at the logs we found the air flow to increase at and N75 effort get higher at 5000rpm without and gains in the power curve which mean the issue is boost / air realted. After 20mins of hardware testing we found the one way PCV check valve to be leaking and sticking open...end of mapping session. New part on order.
final result today= 237bhp 278lbft with PCV issues.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/MK5-SPEC1-CUSTOM.jpg)
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Just goes to show mapping is only 50% of getting good power.. the rest is down to the tuner to id hardware issues.
26th July 2011 Job number 1
Stock mapped 2005 Audi A3 2.0TDI 140pd with 88k which has had sticky VNT for 3 months and only went into limp mode 5 times.
End result was melted turbine wheel tips and melted VNT vanes which has resulted in the turbo being a door stop.
If your running a TDI 1.9TDI or 2.0Tdi no matter what year then get your VNT checked. The turbo can over boost to 40psi and hold 35psi without you knowing, the only time the car will show a fault code is when the ecu sees 400mb of over boost of 10seconds or more in one stint which is when the ecu cut the fuel, BUT the car will still be over boosting.
We are now doing around 7 VNT turbo repairs each week, I would say 5 out of 10 TDis
with over 60k will suffer from sticky VNT and will have 17965 - Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation
We have opened a new two workshop bays just for VNT cleaning and DPF issues cleaning and removal
http://sticky-vnt.co.uk http://removal-dpf.co.uk Midlands Leicestershire / North Wales and Chester
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Saturday 16th July 1st job Seat Leon K1 K04 2.0TFSI 240PS
Before and after power runs back to back
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Seat Leon K1 R-Tech custom spec1 rolling road remap session
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Rolling Road remap session 2007 Mk5 1.9TDI 105bhp stock and r-tech spec1-custom map
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The unique R-Tech K04S-V2 development turbo 300bhp bolt on power
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R-Tech custom with live custom maps get unique software TAGS.
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Live custom remap session on a AGU GT2871R
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Seat??? :grin:
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Mk5 2.0TFSI 197ps with R32 shell VW Cup car 240bhp 275lbft
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Another Brand where we excell derv BMW tuning
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R-Tech live custom remap Polo Gti CR Hybrid turbo 270bhp/275lbft (5th gear torque steer..lol)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_0312.jpg)
Airtec FMIC, Performance catback, Decat , K+N Panel filter. 178bhp 305ft/lbs
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another VW :cool:
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TVR specailist development testing on intake runners and plenums, and to provide a performance software upgrade solution
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RS6 bi-turbo R-Tech road and dyno tuned 45bhp 95lbft gains
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Setting up carbs.., the joys!!
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1st Nov 2010
Golf 1999 AGU 1.8T 320bhp
Full turbo back system, fmic, steel 4 branch manifold, green injectors, T3 turbo, walbro inline fuel pump, R-Tech full custom load based dyno remap session.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/r-tech-rr-graphs/AGU-T3-TURBO.jpg?1288614037)
Mk5 GTI 2.0tfsi rolling road graphs back to back
Stock
R-Tech Spec1
R-tech Spec2 with induction kit and turbo back Performance exhaust, very quick and strong across the whole rpm
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Golf AUM 1.8T 20v ko3s (not same car on all 3 runs)
Stock Mapping = Stock filter & oem DV - 95 fuel = 156bhp/163lbft
R-Tech Spec1 = 007p with yellow spring - Pipercross filter - V-power = 209bhp/234lbft
R-Tech Spec2 = 007p with yellow spring -Cold air induction kit - TIP- THS front mount intercooler - Milltek Turbo Back = 231bhp/259lbft
Spec2 mapping allowing for extra mid range boost without running the risk of too much heat build up, 21psi peak and 18psi held with VE tail off, which gives close on to 100lbft gain from stock in the midrange and holds on to it really well, without too much heat build or fuel dumping.
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/r-tech-rr-graphs/golfgtirollingroadremapdynograph-1.jpg)
VW Golf 1.8T 20v AGU with ko3s turbo fitted.
R-Tech Custom remap = Ko3s turbo, full turbo back exhaust, upgrade boost hoses, forge front mount intercooler, v-power fuel running spot on .
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/r-tech-rr-graphs/RRCD-S55JMV-AGU-KO3S.jpg)
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How come there is less transmission loss on a AUM than a AGU?
AUM spec2 231 bhp @ Fly - 208 @ Wheels
AGU KO3s 231bhp @ Fly - 200 @ Wheels
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How come there is less transmission loss on a AUM than a AGU?
AUM spec2 231 bhp @ Fly - 208 @ Wheels
AGU KO3s 231bhp @ Fly - 200 @ Wheels
There is not one fixed rate for drive train losses, wheel weight, wheel size, tyres, brake discs, bearings & temps, gear box fluids, diff and transmission condition, strapping down on to the rolling road ect.. Some rolling road like the dyno dynamics just add a fixed % to the wheel power, which is give a false reading for the engine power because there dyno cannot see the drag factors during the run. I can get the same result for the flywheel power even if I apply the brakes during the whole dyno run and the coast down.
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Would it be strange though if myself and a fellow AGU K03s user both produce 231bhp and both get 200 at wheel? Both on 18 inch wheels
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Would it be strange though if myself and a fellow AGU K03s user both produce 231bhp and both get 200 at wheel? Both on 18 inch wheels
One car could push 200whp and 230fwhp and the other 197bhp and another 230whp or even 205whp and 230fwhp
More drag = less wheel power on a Dyno Dynamics rolling road you will get a low fly wheel power full stop. On our rolling road we can work out the exact drag during the run which is added to the whp as a factor not a estimate or calculated %. Rule of thumb is 15% for fwd transmission losses so 200whp works out around 230 hp at the fly and 22% for a rear wheel drive car which work out about right for the C20let Kadet we ran at 330whp & 399 hp at the fly.
Two brand new cars just out of the factory should give the exact same whp losses and fly hp, but if you change one cars tyres, fill them with less air and use thicker gear box oil ect the drag will differ so the power at the tyre contact will differ but with the losses added (from the coat down run) the flywheel power will be about the same.
I can run a car will cold tyres, cold gear box and diff, cold transmission fluid, cold bearing ect and get lets say 250bhp at the fly, then run the same car with hot gear box, tyres bearing ect... and still get 250bhp. BUT the output would look like this:
Cold run = 220 wheel hp with 30bhp drag losses = 250bhp at the fly
Hot Run = 223 wheel hp with 27bhp drag losses = 250bhp at the fly
Nick
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See page 1 for update.
320bhp AGU with T3 and R-Tech custom map added. :evil:
Graph >http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/r-tech-rr-graphs/AGU-T3-TURBO.jpg?1288614037
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How has hulmie got 231 bhp with only ko3s, and those mods listed in his sig ? was this done at r tech ?
how accurate are the rollers, how oftern are they calibrated? ill be getting my AMK lump done very soon and you are on my shortlist for a custom map
undicided how hulmies car can be 231bhp with just those mods :undecided:
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mines on a ko3s and made 242bhp @ r-tech :grin: simular set up sports cat not decat.
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nah man, not having that at all
245 with a ko3s and a decat WTF ??
Rtech what rollers do you have and when were they calibrated ? bet mine would be about 300 hp going by these results :grin:
sports cat isnt gonna do fack all really tbh, iv got one but im running with no cat at all and iv got all the mods hulmie has but only iv got a K04 (Audi S3 engine)
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nah man, not having that at all
245 with a ko3s and a decat WTF ??
Rtech what rollers do you have and when were they calibrated ? bet mine would be about 300 hp going by these results :grin:
sports cat isnt gonna do fack all really tbh, iv got one but im running with no cat at all and iv got all the mods hulmie has but only iv got a K04 (Audi S3 engine)
Our rollers are bang on the money.. We have 2 rolling roads down here and both read around 1bhp-/+ within each other. And back to back with JKMs rolling road again about .5bhp-/+ :smug: Other rolling roads such as awesomes dynojet reads much higher than our dyno, again proven by golfgtiforum members .
Proven on many rolling road days, and proven on the 19th June with Len passat made around near enough the exact same power aw what he did on JKM dyno a few weeks back. Then the same about 2 years back when Rhyso and Adams cars made near enough exact same power on our dyno v JKMs, when people where saying there car where know where near the torque I quoted..lol I think on both car there where 4lbft +/-.
I like to know my dyno is about bang on all the time, becuase I would look a cock when customers car go to another rolling road day.
And as for k04-023 they dont make know where near the peak power everyone quotes, with them its all about the midrange the realistic peak power is 270bhp TOPS with oem manifold, which I managed to do and a nother tuner on seatcupra.net / audisport.net was quoted on saying its one of the strongest and best running k04-023 he has see running on his dyno backed up with outstanding MAF logs.
See what the k04 boys are getting http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/GallerySCN280309.htm
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How has String69 managed 246 on a ko3s ???? with just those mods and then on the JKM site theirs leon Cupra R's with stage 2 Revo only making the same power ?? these have K04..
I have only ever read 270 is about the max you can get on standard manifold, by this do you mean turbo or Exhaust Downpipe?
it jsut does not add up at all, are the figures at the wheels or the fly (string69's and the leons on the JKM webpage)
my car has the K04 -023 (audi s3 engine)
Silicone TIP
Forge 007 DV
N249 Delete
Front mount intercooler
Induction kit (K&N - relocared to behind bumper)
Full custom stainless Downpipe
No Cat
Full Jetex system
id like to think that would be a much higher reading on your rollers than the one of string69's with only a K03s
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How has String69 managed 246 on a ko3s ???? with just those mods and then on the JKM site theirs leon Cupra R's with stage 2 Revo only making the same power ?? these have K04..
I have only ever read 270 is about the max you can get on standard manifold, by this do you mean turbo or Exhaust Downpipe?
it jsut does not add up at all, are the figures at the wheels or the fly (string69's and the leons on the JKM webpage)
my car has the K04 -023 (audi s3 engine)
Silicone TIP
Forge 007 DV
N249 Delete
Front mount intercooler
Induction kit (K&N - relocared to behind bumper)
Full custom stainless Downpipe
No Cat
Full Jetex system
id like to think that would be a much higher reading on your rollers than the one of string69's with only a K03s
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Its all about air flow, we back all of our customer mapping up with sheets and sheets of A4 datalogs which in most case match what the dyno is telling us. I dont think there has been one customer who has been on another dyno and got less power then we quoted? check out ukmkivs.
K03s flow enough for 240bhp, the limiting factor is cooling effichency, we can use fuel for cooling at the top end but a compromise to the efficency of the combustion burn, but running richer allows for more ignition advance.
You need to remember most other tuners maps are just generic stage maps spend a few days making them the sell them on via a franchise network, where 95% work of our is custom mapping the 1.8T engines we use our own cars to push the limits to see whats safe and whats not safe. A basic stage 1 k03s will make with easy, then a decat will unlock the same map to 222bhp, now we can afford to run a leaner mixture, more advance more air flow more boost. One of our AUM Audi A3 stage1.5 maps with stage2 mods made 235bhp on badger5's dyno, with airflow logs to match.
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Good fuel helps too! I've put bp in this time and it don't feel the same as v-power! Nor does tesco fuel too although thats supposed to be 99 octane too! Back to shell next tank!
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At f17bad
You really need to sit down an have a good read on all the forums, the car in question has a 12psi pre load actuator fitted, when we first started to do the mapping the car would not make over 230bhp due to a weak spring in the oem actuator which meant the waste gate was open by around 4mm under full chat with the load request not matched by the actual load and the n75 dc was at 95%. the forge actuator straight away solved the issues and made over 240bhp.
To get good power from an ko4-023 you need to go fit more pre load, I am sure if the two revo stage2 cars had strong oem springs or a forge actuator fitted then they would be closer to 270bhp.
Before getting you car mapped you best bet is to check the actuator lift point and fully open point, if it's weak your never going to get the turbo the flow it's best at top end and the n75 will be running max duty cycle. And who ever maps your car make sure they change the linear n75 response map as this limits the max n75dc over 5500rpm and the car will never make good power.
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Page one photo and info updated today. :wink:
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Can you tell us anymore on the mondeo? Would love to see a graph for it.
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Can you tell us anymore on the mondeo? Would love to see a graph for it.
Best guy to talk to is markD on Talkford, you will find him in the mk3 section.
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thats not his car , its mine :wink:
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Just realised wrong picture from album..
LOL :embarassed: I will edit it and try and find marks picture and graph even got a video, What spec is you car so I can add it to the photo?
Look the same I think this is the correct car?
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NIck
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Airtec FMIC, Performance catback, Decat , K+N Panel filter. 178bhp 305ft/lbs
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Airtec FMIC, Performance catback, Decat , K+N Panel filter. 178bhp 305ft/lbs
Updated. :wink:
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Seat K1 2.0Tfsi k04 spec1 graphs before and after
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Page 1 Updated 26th July 2011
Golf Mk3 1.8T Audi S3 AMK engine k04-023 R-Tech Custom Remap session-v1 270bhp 275lbft MAF flow 219gs @ 1.2bar
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2005 Mk5 GTI 2.0TFSI 197bhp R-Tech Custom Rolling Road Remap session.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1479.jpg)
Stock power made 206bhp 234lbft for some reason the car made high stock torque output, it should be around 205lbft?
So we carried out a full data logging session to find out why the torque was so high on a stock power run. Our findings where that the N75 boost controller was a little lazy and was reacting slow, causing the boost to over shoot and the ecu pid controllers react to late.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1474.jpg)
Next step was to take all the logged data and produce a spec1 base map based on the compiled data.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1476.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1473.jpg)
Next step is to flash the base map and log the boost, lambda, timing, n75 ect to make sure they are following the ecu requests. The logging was found to be ok and safe, so the next step was to carry out fully loaded power runs against the rolling roads eddy current brake to allow us to get a mental picture of where we can improve the map and to iron out the flats spots and wasted boost where we could use more timing advance and reduce the boost with out compromise to the power.
Next stage...... hit a brick wall lol
During logging and loaded power runs we found a major flat spot at 5000rpm, which also can be seen in the stock map so the remap has brought the issues to light. We made another 4 map version to try and iron out the issue, but only made the flat spot worse, as this point we put the flat spot down to hardware. After looking at the logs we found the air flow to increase at and N75 effort get higher at 5000rpm without and gains in the power curve which mean the issue is boost / air realted. After 20mins of hardware testing we found the one way PCV check valve to be leaking and sticking open...end of mapping session. New part on order.
final result today= 237bhp 278lbft with PCV issues.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/MK5-SPEC1-CUSTOM.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1478.jpg)
Just goes to show mapping is only 50% of getting good power.. the rest is down to the tuner to id hardware issues.
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Nice work.
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R-Tech Spec1 custom remap Audi S3 K04-023 270bhp with TIP
(http://www.badger-5.com/bin/dane-s3/DynoIT%20-%20D4NEU-std-tip-3inch-tip.jpg)
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Nice work.
:smiley: Cheers :smiley:
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1st August 2011 our first ever Jetta, but not first 2.0TDi PD BKD 140bhp engine
R-Tech Spec1 Remap with EGR SW deleted.
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Forum Charity Rolling Road Day
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Ben happy with his R-Tech FMIC
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Monday 1st August Finished custom remap on a Mk4 Golf AGU k04-023 Steel rods, forged low comp pistion, S3 fuel Pump, 9ltr FMIC, Saab Red injectors @3bar, 3" Custom turbo back exhaust, forge TIP and forge acctuator with blue sping.
269bhp 290lbft with N75 to control part throttle boost conditions and MBC to control WOT boost.
This is a full stripped out track day car which needed to have the power as linear and as smooth as could.
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Seat Leon FR 2.0TDI 170 tuned to 210bhp (with dpf removal repair and all dpf issues fix Hinckley Leicestershire nr Coventry Midlands not too far from Birmingham and Rugby)
Wheel Power Gains of 40bhp & 67lbft
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Pre & Post Tuning Power Runs (Gains of upto 40bhp 67lbft @ 2700rpm)
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OEM state DPF
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Operation state :grin:
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NO filter
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Finished product, welding on back side of DPF to hide any evidence of the filter being removed
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We have opened a new two workshop bays just for VNT cleaning and DPF issues cleaning and removal
http://sticky-vnt.co.uk http://removal-dpf.co.uk Midlands Leicestershire / North Wales and Chester
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Last Job of the day.
BMW 120D AUTO 163bhp 257lbft @ 1.5bar boost stock
Custom rolling road remap session.
R-Tech custom remap session 200bhp 318lbft @ 1.69bar boost
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Last map before closing down for a week for my summer holidays.
Golf MK4 GTi 2002 AUM 1.8T 155bhp 156lbft stock power run with V-power
R-Tech Spec1 Gen6-2011 mapping 210bhp 235lbft :smiley:
Another way to work power without dynoout is MAF Reading = 169gs /0.8 = 211bhp (only work onj a good maf and if PCV and boost sytem is air tight)
169gs = 22lb min-1 / x10 = 220bhp with 10bhp thermal losses (with thermal lambda protection maps still in place to cut power it save hardware turbo and manifold which can be seen to kick in at 5600rpm to cool the downpipe and turbo at the cost of a little power, once running a decat or sports cat the fuel will be 0.84 to the red line.)
R-Tech GEN6 mapping also has the unique-DBW linear throttle mapping, to stop the oem mapping wanting to make the car surge down low, and to give the driver more control in the wet and comming out bends.
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Some of the many happy customers who rock the R-tech maps :wink:
Pat
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Hamidi
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And my dirty slag
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My last run
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4 weeks and I'll be coming home with a big smile (provided nothing goes wrong again)
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Golf 2003 150PD R-Tech Spec1 Custom Rolling Road Remap
Tuned to 197bhp 330lbft (Tuned last summer, booked in today for service and health check up)
- Milltek turbo back exhaust system (decat)
- EGR Pipe & Pipercross Air filter
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Last two jobs of the week Saturday PM
R-Tech Remapped Skoda Octavia VRS Mk2 2.0TFSI
Stage 1 remap.
Pre-remap fault: Found split DV rubber & PCV check valve not locking shut under load (both items fixed with latest revision parts which we hold in stock)
Stock power exactly as it should be 197bhp not bad from a 89,000 mile ex police car.
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2009 Ford Focus RS 300bhp
341bhp 330lbft
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Nick what power are these standard and what can they be pushed to without mods? My mate has one that he may like mapped at some point
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Nick what power are these standard and what can they be pushed to without mods? My mate has one that he may like mapped at some point
as found out today limit factor for big power is cat and injectors. Its an ecu i understand but not and engine I know too well, told the customer to get turbo back exhaust and go to a ford specialist tuner for spec2 tuning.
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wat are those bmw wheels on that black golf? :evil:
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Patch's wheels? Not strictly BMW wheels... :wink:
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oh right what are they then :smiley:
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Last Job of Monday 22nd August
For the last few months this customer has had the run around from local rolling road tuners who failed to remap the car (not Kinectic tuning), but he braved the trip from sunny South Wales this afternoon and left us with an AWESOME grin..... :grin:
This car started life as a 1.6 Bora which could not pull and elfs todger...
After a lot if time an effort the 1.6 has been binned and a 1.8T conversion took place.
Now fitted with an AGU 1.8T A3 engine with K03 from a Seat Ibiza.
Turbo Back Exhaust - BOV - CAI
Idel fuel mixture causing flat spot on stock map due to spike at 10.2:1 fuel air ratio caused by the BOV upsetting the ADD fuel trims.
R-Tech custom dyno logged & remapped to
R-Tech spec1 Custom = 192bhp@5350rpm 212lbft@3500rpm
Stock Power = 153bhp@5180rpm 164lbft@3480rpm
The to finish is off a seto of white Merc rims. :rolleyes:
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On going customer project.
1998 Golf Mk4 GTi AGU
AGU k03s
Forge Actuator with yellow spring and N75 C
Forge FMIC & TIP (stock MAF)
Turbo Back Exhaust System
Stock 3 bar fuel system
Calibra Turbo C20LET 306cc Yellow Bosch injectors
Live custom dyno remap with simulated development ecu, PWM logging, twin lambda probes and rail pressure logging to setup a fuel map to run the AGU stock MAF with the Calibra yellow injectors with a flow rate of 306cc @3bar.
Just running the injectors with no mapping made the car run 200bhp, 20bhp less than the oem injectors, reason being was the fuel was far too rich across the whole rpm, the enrichment fuel dump was off the scale below 9:1 air fuel.
As far as I know this is the best fuel and power result so far from using thr Yellow top injectors.. :smug:
Final mapping result today was safe lambda across the whole rpm range of 11:1 and 238bhp 268lbft.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
A few more hours on the dyno mapping will allow us to dial in the perfect fuel and timing maps.
SO far I am over the moon with the result.. :drool:
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hmmm I'm bringing my red tops with me :grin:
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A massive thank you to Nick and the guys at R-Tech!!!!
I actually want to keep my Bora now :grin: Ive had soooo much hassle getting this done as no1 wants to know if you done a conversion. Nick and the boys got straight to work on my inbred bora as he says lmao mk4 golf loom, Audi engine and cupra turbo :grin: Im very pleased with the results!!!!
The 250 miles home was the first time I smiled since doing the conversion!!!!
My misses even loves it so soon ill be back with ko3s and front mount hahaa
I was always skeptical about what a remap can do, but these boys blew me away I wish it was done ages ago.
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2008 Seat Leon Cupra 240bhp 2.0TFSI Spec1 custom map & Pipercross filter tuned to 300bhp 301lbft
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2008 Audi Q7 V8 4.2.TDI CR 321bhp 530lbft twin bosch ecu setup (road remap session)
Remap gains (road logging and G-Trip testing) = 45bhp 70lbft :drool: Its a monster!! tuned to around 600lbft 366bhp
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VW Transporter 2006 104bhp 1.9TDi PD
Stock power run = 111bhp 201lbft
Tuned power run = 149bhp 266lbft :grin:
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you had another islander up to you recently?
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you had another islander up to you recently?
Two in one week!!! Lol
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Whats going on with the world!!!!!! Its all about Audi now for some reason? :grin: :grin: six in one week.
Job number 1 Audi S4 2.7 Twin Turbo.. :kiss:
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The first Audi S3 of the day, full service, remap, DV, filter.
Load of split PCV and brake boost pipes so thye R-Tech catch can mod is now needed to savwe the customer some money.
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Audi S3 number 2 of the day
Stage2 Remap
Decat, FMIC, TIP, Forge actuator with blue spring.
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Just to add insult.... :grin: Sorry VW dudes!!
last jobbie another AUDI!!!
2004 2.0TDi 140pd mapped to 181bhp 305lbft
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Not to worry lots of VWs booked now..
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Not to worry lots of VWs booked now..
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Mine in a couple of weeks :cool: :cool:
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Mine in a couple of weeks :cool: :cool:
Getting your discounted 3rd r-tech remap... Your catching up with billy-Vw who I think is on his 5th r-tech remap.... People like you who keep buying and selling car and get a remap each time are my pension plan...:-)
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I enjoy reading your photo gallery, can't wait to get mine up to you :smiley:
I am running standard cat and exhaust system on my ARZ mk4 golf, and planning to fit the TDi straight through centre bit, will I see any performance gains once it has been mapped? Or will it be a waste of time without a decat?
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Mine in a couple of weeks :cool: :cool:
Getting your discounted 3rd r-tech remap... Your catching up with billy-Vw who I think is on his 5th r-tech remap.... People like you who keep buying and selling car and get a remap each time are my pension plan...:-)
But its good because you love me :kiss: :kiss:
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Nick do you do DSG servicing ??
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Hi,
DSG services is not what we do dude.. :embarassed:
At last no Audi's.... :grin:
Back to good old VW, and a nice way to finish the week with a custom RR spec1 Ed30 remap and the customer with the biggest grin of the week.. :grin:
VW Golf GTI MK5 ED30 R-Tech spec1 custom remap session results
Pre remap DV and PCV checked out fine, not fault codes, stock power run number 2 showed a blip in the air fuel ratio, which seemed like a missfire but didtnt record as a miss. At this point I was expection some coil packs to fail asoon at as t base map was loaded, map read editied and wrote back to car and stright a way under 1.25 bar of boost cylinder no.2 recorded 45 misses.. :smug: So a new coil pack out of our stock was slapped in the car. A bit more data logging to check the fuel boost timing ect and a power run which recorded 280bhp 300lbft, happy with the logs we then continued to custom tune the spec1 map to match the engines unique characteristics, (which seemed to have a lazy boost control reaction stock and tuned the peak boost over shoots around 0.12mb) After a few tweak and logging a final power run was carried out and a final output of 299bhp 326lbft (which should drop to around to 290bhp/ 300lbft once a new N75 has been fitted, which will make the actual boost ride the requested load line.
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Before and after power runs both with the n75 over shoot, the reason why the car made good stock torque. :smiley:
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One of the stock power run logs showing the over shoot, in load % which the boost mapping is based on, the load went to around 170% where the stock map asks for 141%.
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End result a very quick ed30, customer with big grin, one naff coil pack and an lazy n75.. :laugh
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Loving the car now nick, no boost issues on the M69 on the way back held good boost with no sudden drop, thanks again guys, Jay
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Loving the car now nick, no boost issues on the M69 on the way back held good boost with no sudden drop, thanks again guys, Jay
S0 it was clipping 673gh/hr+ on the maf in 5th. :grin:....240ish+bhp the AGU upper mapping scale... :smug: Its resclaed now for the the current setup but long term you need to be running 2.75" ID maf to give a bigget window of play in the mapping and more timing control. I am glad your happy with the result of your AGU K03s with C20LET injectors.
Ps
Cheers for the coffee.. I am pissing for england now :wink:
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nick u slag read my pms :wink:
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nick u slag read my pms :wink:
13 pages of them... lol you should know to ring or email worksho@r-techpower.co.uk
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nick u slag read my pms :wink:
13 pages of them... lol you should know to ring or email workshop@r-techpower.co.uk
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yea sorry mate, i will do that next time :wink: pm u again :laugh:
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yea sorry mate, i will do that next time :wink: pm u again :laugh:
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Now gettign 100s of Pms via facebook....help :grin:
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I feel very honoured when you answer texts let alone the PMs :grin:
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I feel very honoured when you answer texts let alone the PMs :grin:
Wes when you going RTech next ?
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Monday buddy :smiley:
5.45am boat :cry:
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I feel very honoured when you answer texts let alone the PMs :grin:
Lol I think some people expect us to have load of staff working here.. One tuner and three mechanics. Then scream when we don't answer the phone or emails straight away, then get upset when we quote a price which which just cover the current wages... No win!
I an glad all my old customers fully understand the situation..
I am looking forward to Monday
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me too mate :smiley:
(apart from the early boat that is)
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Monday buddy :smiley:
5.45am boat :cry:
Arr sh!t im down the monday after :angry: :angry:
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Diary 31-08-2011 Job 1
Mk5 Golf GTI 197 2.0TFSI Custom Spec1 rolling road remap session stock pwr run = 204bhp
Final results =241.96bhp@5300rpm 266.34lbft
Pre remap inspection DV fine & PCV fine....and at last a fault free engine running 100% spot on out the box. :grin:
We made three map revisions all based from our generic spec1-gen4 map, we dyno and log the car and monitor where the flat spot are on the mapping which are unique to every car, we read pages of VCDS logs to see where we can add more power ans still be in the safe area. We will repeat a few time until we are happy with the logs and the graph is a smooth at it can be. Just by custom mapping on the dyno the aim is to get rid of all the dips, the by product of making the graph smooth is extra power (not peak power) as you can see on the graph below we gained another 12lbft and 12bhp between 3000-4000rpm which has a knock on effect at the top end curve, another 5-6bhp across the whole band. These numbers dont sound much as "peak number" but stretched over the whole rpm range it make the car feel night and day on the road.
More average area uder the curve the quicker the car and this is what we aim to do to make our remap the quality they are.... not peak number or boost spikes.
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That's my car above, thanks to Nick and his team, really pleased with (a) my engine being in good nick and (b) the results from the R-Tech custom remap. It's a dream to drive!
Thanks again guys, fantastic job.
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That's my car above, thanks to Nick and his team, really pleased with (a) my engine being in good nick and (b) the results from the R-Tech custom remap. It's a dream to drive!
Thanks again guys, fantastic job.
Hi!
I am glad your happy with the service and the custom remapping we provided and the car is making you grin ear to ear..lol. Remember any issues your question you got my email and number.
Thanks again for your custom, support and feedback.
Nick, Rob Jim & Ben R-Tech Team
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Strange..... two Skodas on the same day? I little birds tells me we are getting a good name over on briskoda forum. :grin:
Job:1 9.30am Skoda Octavia 140BHP 2008 custom spec1 remap with eco fuel mapping strategy. The customer drove 3.5hours to get here, and should get back in 3hrs with a huge grin.. :grin:
Final result 186bhp 300lbft of strong linear power... but with a hint of fuel saving under under 60% pedal load.. :smug:
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Job 2 12pm 2001 Skoda VRS 180 AUQ V-power and Pipercross filter.
With the very early poor quality factory map code which cause poor MPG. poor throttle control and mid range surge, After the intial logging and diagnostics we reverse engineered the factory code and combine the flash with the later Golf AUM 150 stock map which has proven time after time to give much better results once mapped, power, drivability, MPG and smoothness. Once we reworked the ecu we then could map the car via our spec1 custom map to make the most linear power, the most power without compromise to the hardware. The result again speak for themselfs. :wink:
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Job3 3pm Audi S3 AMK Spec1
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3pm S3 job .....Nightmare thant to superchips!! :evil:
The S3 had a before power run and made 221bhp 245lbft a little hight for a stock AMK which is a 210, So I read the ecu and check the map which seemed to be 100% stock , I go to load the R-Tech spec1 base map which start to write the gets to 4% and.........ECU WRITE FAIL?? Ecu locked out.. :cry:
I then look at the stock read map a little more in depth and find one area / one small map chnage to the load request. :embarassed: Which means its not a stock map just a very very very poor quality remap, After openning the ecu I find an Superchips sticker and protection PBC. I had to remove the chip and PCB and replace with a blank OEM chip which we keep in stock, then flash the ecu out of the car in boot mode. Its luck we had all the correct tool and part ins stock else this would have been our first customer ever to hitch a ride home on a tow truck :cool:
Me7.5 1.8T AMK ECU with protection PCB and chip removed
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Rob trying to look busy.. :lipsrsealed:
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The S3 ecu being bench flashed direct to the CPU in boot mode.
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The final results back to back R-Tech spec1 v the spec1 it came in with, what the graph dont show it fuel ratios, the 1st run was seeing 13.9:1 at the top end , the R-Tech spec1 12.1:1
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Wait till Monday, I might well be the first :grin:
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Friday AM mobile job = New un-registered Dealer Demo Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 EDC17 Bench remap session.
Friday Workshop AM
100PD Golf MK4 2003 Spec1 custom remap session with EGR valve hardware fitting and SW delete.
Stock power a healthy 106bhp/195lbft from 0.96bar of boost remapped to 132bhp/249lbft with 1.16bar. :smug:
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Friday PM 2005 Audi A3 140PD Repair seized turbo VNT and LITE-spec1 remap
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Santa pod videos
Customer AGU T3/04e R-Tech Custom live tuned 404bhp having a pop at a cossy.. :smug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGINgKOfYPo
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One very happy man here, results and graph to follow :evil:
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how did the side mount cope mate??
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ECU Chiptuning Remap method on a 1996 Mk3 VR6.
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ECU out Stock PlCC44 Bosch chip still in place
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Chip removed
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Edit stock map code and write to a blacl PLCC44 chip
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Fitted chip with R-Tech map code.
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As usual, a massive thumbs up from me for the work carried out on Monday.
I had a custom stage 2 map installed on my AGU on Monday and as usual Nick & the lads have done brilliantly. First the spring fitted to my actuator was the wrong colour so Nick kindly let me have the spring from his. All was going well until my N75F valve started to leak boost. It wasn't sealing correctly so again Nick let me have the one from his Golf.
It was nice to finally have the car running right and Nick even tried a few power runs to make sure the air filter setup I have was working efficiently which it was.
I would thoroughly recommend visiting the boys as you'll come away with a smile on your face. Unfortunately it was raining most of the 160mile journey home but I did get to have a play with a WRX which was fun
To add Nicks Golf is an absolute animal and the water injection does its job brilliantly, the inlet was no more than 5 or 6 degrees to the touch when we got back from playing :smiley:
I have a few more bits to get and I'll be back up again in the new year :cool:
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Glad your happy now mate!! With the right combination of hardware and mapping methods its night and day!! :wink:
Big turbo next then dude!!
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any luck with the mk1 yet :), or is it next week ?
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oooh was that your mk1 up there? Looks like it's gonna be a monster :cool:
Glad your happy now mate!! With the right combination of hardware and mapping methods its night and day!! :wink:
Big turbo next then dude!!
Ha that's me done for now, will see what happens in the new year though :wink:
Was interesting looking at the before/during/after dyno results too
Good old Essex boys questioning 4bhp too :grin:
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yeh thats mine lol and yeh should be good :) hopefully make 320bhp , if no problems occur was you there monday with your car on teh rollers ?
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that was me mate, the blue one not the silver R32 rep :grin:
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I so want to.go.001 turbo its just the castle.of.fitting one put me off lol
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just wanted to say a massive thank you to Nick and the boys, you guys certainly rock, taking in a standard agu and driving out with a beastly 194bhp makes me a very happy man, all i can say is that it was worth the 230 mile round trip, if your looking for a remap these are the guys you want doing it and at least they always reply to your emails if you have any questions, cant wait for you to post pics for me , thanx again guys
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Just about to leave and visit the RTech boys with MaXXeH :smiley:
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Quick update on my 1.8T with Rtech remap.....
I took my 128k mile AGU to R-Tech at the end of November 2009 for their standard Stage 1 remap. My car is stock apart from a Forge 007p DV.
Pre-remap, the car made 160hp/160ftlb on the dyno. It showed no fault codes. When the map was put on, the higher level of boost highlighted a leaking intercooler connection pipe which Chris and Ben quickly fixed. They ran the car again and it made 189/209. This was with the standard green spring in the DV, Chris changed this for a yellow spring, ran the car again and it made 190/210. Thats an increase of 30hp/50ftlb !
I'm really pleased with the change the remap has have made. The car is far more responsive and pulls harder and from lower revs. I was after more torque, and that's primarily what i got.
The car has now done 146k miles and (touch wood!) has never missed a beat. There's no oil leaks and no issues, its just like it was when i left Rtech almost 2 years ago. I'm currently looking for an early Mk5 GTi and based on how impressed i am with Rtech, i'll be taking the car for a remap with them with no hesitation. I wouldn't even consider going anywhere else, even though there are places much closer to where i live.
All in all a real bargain for the quality of service and product they offer.
Cheers fellas, keep up the cracking work!
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Hello,
Thank you for the feeback Greg! :wink:
2 years on and still happy.. :grin: any plans for more power m8? :tongue:
Nick
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Hello,
Thank you for the feeback Greg! :wink:
2 years on and still happy.. :grin: any plans for more power m8? :tongue:
Nick
No more power for this car, but i'll be paying you a visit when i get a mk5GTi mate, no doubt about it :cool:
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No more power for this car, but i'll be paying you a visit when i get a mk5GTi mate, no doubt about it :cool:
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Next car = £50 discount.. :wink: And the would be Golf mk1,2,3,4 & 5 for your siggy.
I look forward to it m8
Nick
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Next car = £50 discount.. :wink: And the would be Golf mk1,2,3,4 & 5 for your siggy.
I look forward to it m8
Nick
Awesome! Thanks a lot mate! :grin:
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These guys spent ages making sure the car was in a fit state to proceed (holding breath at this time!), but once the go ahead was given, these were the results......
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On going customer project.
1998 Golf Mk4 GTi AGU
AGU k03s
Forge Actuator with yellow spring and N75 C
Forge FMIC & TIP (stock MAF)
Turbo Back Exhaust System
Stock 3 bar fuel system
Calibra Turbo C20LET 306cc Yellow Bosch injectors
Live custom dyno remap with simulated development ecu, PWM logging, twin lambda probes and rail pressure logging to setup a fuel map to run the AGU stock MAF with the Calibra yellow injectors with a flow rate of 306cc @3bar.
Just running the injectors with no mapping made the car run 200bhp, 20bhp less than the oem injectors, reason being was the fuel was far too rich across the whole rpm, the enrichment fuel dump was off the scale below 9:1 air fuel.
As far as I know this is the best fuel and power result so far from using thr Yellow top injectors.. :smug:
Final mapping result today was safe lambda across the whole rpm range of 11:1 and 238bhp 268lbft.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
A few more hours on the dyno mapping will allow us to dial in the perfect fuel and timing maps.
SO far I am over the moon with the result.. :drool:
See what we can manage when i bring mine back down nick for you to tweak my yellow top injectors in. 238bhp on stock AGU injectors is good power and awesome mid range.
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Engine Code: AGU
k03s
stock 710n dump valve
THS FMIC
3" decat downpipe
Forge Silicone TIP
Pipercross Panel Filter
De-silenced mid section
remus backbox
Recently rebuilt 20v lump
Made 225bhp and 225lbft torque. Torque was limited with dump valve cracking open and maybe actuator too.
Those were sorted out and following put on
Forge 007p with yellow spring
forge actuator with yellow spring
3" cold air feed
new N75
and sorted a few niggles out.
Went back to r-tech and custom mapped again on the dyno, got a lot more torque, now 265lbft at about 3k rpm and the same power due to the AGU injectors running flat out and becomming lean at 238bhp on the rollers - hence the pull back in power. Amazingly quick car in the mid range and feels like a rocket.
Now to get the injectors in and 2.75" ID MAF housing stuck in and get booked back in and see what power we can get from AGU k03s. Hopefully into the 240s should be pretty easily obtainable.
Cant recommend Nick and the team enough. Only place I would even consider going and telling people to go for a map. Service and aftercare is out of this world!
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Bigger injectors = bigger turbo next then more bigger injectors and another even bigger turbo.... It never stops...lol
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Its been a while with our pictures.. workshop is stacked out with drop off custom remaps, Bora with S3 lump, Mk1 GTI AGU with T304e turbo, Show condition Mk1 Gti with BAM and K04/hybrid 300bhp / Audi A4 1.8T with K04-015 / Mk5 Gti with S3 265ps engine / Polo 130PS with hybrid turbo and kerma injectors with race cam. Which mean with the booked jobs we are stacked up with work for the next 4 week.. Plus at the same time trying to build a new office and chipt tuning area, plus a new customer waiting room with TV, DVD, PC, leather sofa and heating ect to keep every happy and warm during the winter months.
Working backwards from this afternoon just a few job we have had in this week.
BMW 325D 2007 194bhp
R-Tech Remap Results = 59bhp & 59lbft of which is set up to be linear and not spikey as per customer request
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A bit of play time with the AGU T304E now running 411bhp from a £150 ebay turbo
Next stage bigger injecotr, wide band lambda system and then NOS!! 500bhp+
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any luck with mine nick. when do you think it should be done by ?
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This was an AGU remap we carried out for forum member anf , We spent a lot of time doing his body work and paint job and wanted a but more power....and the grin that comes with it.
This was one of the most health AGUs we have had in a long time, only issues was the usuall throttle stop sitting at 82.3% WOT, but with the R-Tech throttle body mod we managed to we a VCDS reading of 90% the final result was 194bhp 220lbft from a stage1 custom setup.
With the throttle body unmodded the car only made 174bhp 202lbft.
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Another customer with a HUGE HUGE grin!!
Thank you for you custom and the picture
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Videos of 411bhp AGU power run and lambda logging
:wink:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1895.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1895.mp4)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1894.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1894.mp4)
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This is the same setup as the mk1 which we have in..lol
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BMW 318I ECU Remap session booked in for a DNATuning spec1 remap session.
8bhp 8lbft across most of the torque band, plus sharper crisper throttle pick up.
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My first ecu of this kind ecu so it call for the big gun obd tool so i now it will write safe.
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2006 VW Golf Mk5 GTi fitted with a S3 265ps TFSI engine/ecu and full turbo back exhuast system.
Step-1 to get the S3 ecu to work with the mk5 clocks and keys, then start to softcode hardcode the fault codes related to the S3 setup.
Customer wants around 360bhp once finished.. :grin:
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2006 VW Golf Mk5 GTi fitted with a S3 265ps TFSI engine/ecu and full turbo back exhuast system.
Step-1 to get the S3 ecu to work with the mk5 clocks and keys, then start to softcode hardcode the fault codes related to the S3 setup.
Customer wants around 360bhp once finished.. :grin:
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Remap and health check up session today for forum member spall12
I think he wins this years record for stored fault codes....lol Think there was around 15 of them in total and 9 just on the engine controller.. :lipsrsealed:
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But most of them realated to the poor qulaity map which was on there.. A copy & paste map which someone fudge up and managed to get the part number 018R & 018CG in the same map..... First time I have seen anything like it. The customer only had the car of a week or two and did nont know too much about the car, part from running a fault stock DV along with a cold side BOV, a few loose hose clips and a split vac pipe (which most of was fixed during the remap session) it was a very good healty AGU for 100K+
Smoke test which found all the leaking pipes and clips..
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Pre R-Tech remap with the bodge amalgamated map it made 169bhp/190lbft with poor lambda reading.
Post R-Tech Spec1 custom remap 185bhp 210lbft and a health 12.2:1 fuel ratio..... and another HUGE grin and a night and day reaction!!! Good fuel, new MAF and remover the cold side DV and 190BHP should be on the cars for this AGU.
I forgot to add all the pictures nd graphs to my phone, I will get uploaded them tomorrow.
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I think we all forgot to take any pics of mine on the rollers :undecided:
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I think we all forgot to take any pics of mine on the rollers :undecided:
next time :grin:
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Any pics of mine Nick? :smiley:
Did the detcans reveal anything or the morning logging sesh on your way to work?
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A few slight clicks at the top end and under peak cylinder pressure but I would not all it bad knock.
I can hear a vibration under WOT, I have conected the det cans to the head and the block (I can hear fuel coming out the injectors lol) I am going to check every thing is tight and find out whats vibrating, then 2 options for the slight pull colder R7 plug or a richer burn. The car feels awesome, most others would be happy and call it a done job.. I am getting a little anal with this on as you live the other end of the world I want it bang on the money.
Nick
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A few slight clicks at the top end and under peak cylinder pressure but I would not all it bad knock.
I can hear a vibration under WOT, I have conected the det cans to the head and the block (I can hear fuel coming out the injectors lol) I am going to check every thing is tight and find out whats vibrating, then 2 options for the slight pull colder R7 plug or a richer burn. The car feels awesome, most others would be happy and call it a done job.. I am getting a little anal with this on as you live the other end of the world I want it bang on the money.
Nick
Do you think it's that powerflex dogbone mount? I find it hard as fcuk and I didnt torque it to any settings, just what felt "tight".
Do you have a softer version you could try or at least the correct torque settings as I believe the wrong ones can cause extra vibration?
Was speaking to Opie Oils today about something and they recommend a colder plug also so I'd feel a bit more comfortable having at least tried that.
Like I said, glad your taking the time to get it spot on, I'd sleep better knowing you thought it was bang on the money also :)
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At least if you have it another week you might get a chance to see how that SFS TIP compares to the B5 one.
That should be interesting.
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BMW 325D 194bhp
R-Tech Spec1 Custom Linear Remap Session
Gains = 59bhp 59lbft.. :cool:
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2007 Audi A3 2.0Tdi 140PD tuned to 180bhp 323lbft
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Stage1 AUM remap R-Tech Gen6 tuned to 216bhp 245lbft (on of the strongest spec1 remaps of 2011 so far)
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Mk5 GTI with S2 Tfsi engie now up and running on the S3 ecu and coded in to match the mk5 drive train.
Remap session 1 = 330bhp 300lbft witha few flat spot to sort on, final mapping time booked for friday PM... :evil:
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That things must pull like an absolute beast!
Awesome curve Nick :cool:
You got any graphs of the Bora S3 in stock tune overlayed with the R-Tech Stage 2 Custom Tune?
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That things must pull like an absolute beast!
Awesome curve Nick :cool:
You got any graphs of the Bora S3 in stock tune overlayed with the R-Tech Stage 2 Custom Tune?
In the data base, but not worth posting half finished graphs up..lol :wink:
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Nice little gem of a project for this comming week.
MK1 Golf with combo engine BAM block AGU head, custom turbo back exhaust system, bespoke intercooler and pipes, AGU ecu, K04-025 tubo dynamic SEAT CUP racing series hybrid turbo flows 330bhp, Bosch Green 400cc injectors.
Today we have been setting the 440cc injectors to run pefect with the custom 2.75" maf, start up injection, cold start, warm start, part thottle lambda and off load enrichment. A few miles needed to test the fuel trims and finalise the basic fuel maps, then to the fun bit.. taking a Mk1 upto 270bhp on some trail power runs to make sure all is running safe... then by the end of the week 300bhp 260lbft will be on the cards.
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That things must pull like an absolute beast!
Awesome curve Nick :cool:
You got any graphs of the Bora S3 in stock tune overlayed with the R-Tech Stage 2 Custom Tune?
In the data base, but not worth posting half finished graphs up..lol :wink:
Ooo more to come :D
I also meant to say, are you able to do the injector seals as well?
That MK1 will be a weapon :laugh:
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Just down to time scale, I think I am going to have to replace some of them orange rubber hoses, ie the n75 to actuator...
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Too tight a bend in it?
No problem, as I said I'll be down Monday the 26th so will just take it as it comes :)
I'm going on holiday on Wednesday till Sunday and won't be able to check the forums.
Can you text me if anything critical happens?
Otherwise I'll see you Monday :)
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well visited R-tech on the 2nd of september and i would like to say a massive thankyou to all at R-Tech = Nick - Jim - Rob - Ben , im really pleased and impressed with the remap the team give your car a check over before they start show you if anything is wrong and all the staff have loads of knowledge on vw's was a pleasure to be there i will highly recommend you to anybody that says they wants a remap the car drives like a dream now . its a shame the drive home was only a couple of miles once again very pleased with results will use again in the future the car power output is so smooth now :smiley:
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well visited R-tech on the 2nd of september and i would like to say a massive thankyou to all at R-Tech = Nick - Jim - Rob - Ben , im really pleased and impressed with the remap the team give your car a check over before they start show you if anything is wrong and all the staff have loads of knowledge on vw's was a pleasure to be there i will highly recommend you to anybody that says they wants a remap the car drives like a dream now . its a shame the drive home was only a couple of miles once again very pleased with results will use again in the future the car power output is so smooth now :smiley:
Hello,
Thank you for your support and feedback, I am glad your happy with the remap and service the R-Tech team provided.
Any problems or questions you got our numbers.
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Any news on mine? (Indigo blue mk4 1.8 GTI... with one side skirt and half a bumper missing :grin:)
Got a call off you today about the actuator, did you manage to source a new spring for it? (will happily square you up when i pick up on saturday)
Did you have time to grab the second lambda off your spare motor?
Cheers guys!
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Any news on mine? (Indigo blue mk4 1.8 GTI... with one side skirt and half a bumper missing :grin:)
Got a call off you today about the actuator, did you manage to source a new spring for it? (will happily square you up when i pick up on saturday)
Did you have time to grab the second lambda off your spare motor?
Cheers guys!
Hello,
Got the car flashed back to stock and our base map uploded, Whos remap was on there before?
This one started to confuse me... could not map over 10psi? checked all the boost pipes up to 10psi and found a few leaking clips, fixed them and......still 10psi :undecided: So Jim took the actuator of and found the green spring which is for cars running stock mapping, I have spoken to Forge who are getting me a yellow spring sent in the post. In theory if the spring comes today you can collect it on Saturday still. Rob has took the lambda of the V5 already an that will be going on your car next time its on the ramp. But apart from that all is good so far.
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Previous map was AMD, but that was with the standard actuator in - the forge one was fitted the day before i dropped the car off to you, never bothered trying to adjust it as i was only driving it to you so had no idea about the spring!
Glad to hear it's all going well though and thanks for your updates and sorting the spring and leaks for me etc ;)
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R-Tech Custom Remap SessionAudi2001 A4 1.8T 150bhp with K04-015 - FMIC - BAM 380cc injectors - decat & turbo back, cheap DV stock air box and filter
First step
To spend 1hour getting the BAM 380cc injectors to run spot on to get the fuel trims are with in range, this involves a lot of trial an error testing with data logs vs fuel constants and correction maps.
Once the fuel was correct on a stock map I knew what ever I asked from the injectors when tuning they would respond in the correct manner (as long as fuel pump and oem maf stayed within range) and be safe
Next step:
knowing the 015 turbo (same as the K04-001 which I had been using for the past year) I know what the safe starting point load and boost request would be 190% around 1.3bar request, so I dialed the load maps to request to make around 1.45bar peak and 1.2 bar at the top end, plus at the same time set the lambda maps to provide 13.2:1 in the midrange and 12.1:1 at the top end (a little extra fuel to be safe)
The first few logging power runs with the custom map came back with 191bhp 213bhp... which from 1.45bar peak and 1.2 held is very low..due to stock timing advance but was only to check the fuel and boost control
The next step was to setup the timing advance for full load conditions.. This is the bit which will amaze everyone, with the same boost and fuel the ignition advance managed to produce another 57bhp 58lbft 248bhp 264lbft. I was still at the point of adding ignition advance until the clutch started to slip.. :angry: We set the timing back to stop the slip and carried out more logs to find the max timing pull as only 2s & 3s CF (on 95 fuel) :shocked:
End result for the day was 234bhp 271lbft without clutch slip and 1.45bar peak boost, tomorrow we need to spend 2 hour on the road and dyno setting up the boost pids to smooth the graph out, maybe try and induction kit to help the power after 6000rpm.
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Bora Haldex S3 AMK engine K04 1.8T stage2 custom update..
After putting a few minor issues right after the engine conversion and sorting a major ignition pull at the top end on the stock map / stage1 base map. We get down to the intense logging only to fine two more issues.... during steady state testing, which on a ramp test would not have been seen.
At this stage we are only at 270bhp 250lbft
Can anyone see whats going on?
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more of a clue. (with more load the pull will go to 7-9)
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13.3:1 v 11.8:1 linked with rail presure drop and
We found the car to be running the stock V6 fuel pump (which should be upto the job, but running it with 160,000 miles on the clock and at 4bar has taken its toll) John has managed to get a walbro inline performance fuel pump today, just need to find time and a place to fit it in the engine bay.
Problem 2 found: Wastegate flapper not sitting shut/flush due to a slightly bent actuator mount, The flapper was making a chattering shound idel which also makes the same sound as the clutch chatter, but after holding the clutch in and pressing on the wastegate arm the chatter went and the idle air flow changed. So a few turbo pipes to be taken off to get to the actuator so we can set it correct.
Lucky customer really.. If he had a generic stage2 flash and go map I am sure it would have led to many issues, and a wasted 1752 mile round trip getting his car mapped. The end result will be John being happy with his second car being custom tuned at R-Tech and the total of drivng 2628mile to us within the last two year worth every penny and mile.
IMO if a job is worth doing its worth doing right ..... If not then not at all.
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abit complicated :) , i'd love to learn how to mapp standalone :) once i get it for mine
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Did that spring turn up yesterday btw? :D Excited to get this back!
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Did that spring turn up yesterday btw? :D Excited to get this back!
Now on a yellow spring.. :wink:
Mangaed to get the other comapanies remap removed from the ecu and back to stock, as started the mapping today 1.45bar dropping to 1.15bar boosting fine very very smooth curve.. Just finished the timing mapping then on the road for a test drive and logging..
Already at 187gs 235bhp/258lbft
Launch control mapping loaded... and tested. :laugh:
Brake and boost mapping loaded and tested.
Linear throttle maps loaded and setup.
WOT Gear shift mapping loaded just needs testing.
Going home in it to night to do some logs and have a play.
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AUM 1.8T K03s - Turbo back - FMIC - TIP - 007P - Forge Actuator with yellow spring -
R-Tech stage 2custom remap with Launch control - Linear throttle DBW map - Left foot brake map - WOT gear shift map
Final session today 235bhp 258bhp.
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Video of a 2nd gear pull during logging session.
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Still leading the way with your maps mate and not giving people aloud of crap. least ya know what ya doing.
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Bloody hell....that IS smooth!
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Sweet that's awesome! Thanks for keeping me updated, presume we're still good for a saturday pick up
I know you rang me earlier today, it's definitely BP ultimate that's in it. I remembered :p
Is there anything that's stopping it pushing the 240 barrier?
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Bloody hell....that IS smooth!
Thats what the me7.5 ecu is like with the Forge actuators, using the mapping to its best to get the load smooth... Just shame the AGU ecu aint as dynamic.
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Shame AGU to 7.5 conversion is not straight forward, but some of the European tuners seem to do kits to make it as smooth as possible to change to the 7.5
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Hey guys, am i still good to pick my car up tomorrow?
Was hoping to find out by today as it's a good 3 hour drive for me so i'll be leaving early!
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Shame AGU to 7.5 conversion is not straight forward, but some of the European tuners seem to do kits to make it as smooth as possible to change to the 7.5
Do provide more information! But the thought of additional sensors to install etc is only more money. lol
Bloody hell....that IS smooth!
Thats what the me7.5 ecu is like with the Forge actuators, using the mapping to its best to get the load smooth... Just shame the AGU ecu aint as dynamic.
Its amazing. Probably one of the best graphs ive seen!
Got my 3" maf today, save some pennies up and booked back in to see what we can do :P
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Hey guys, am i still good to pick my car up tomorrow?
Was hoping to find out by today as it's a good 3 hour drive for me so i'll be leaving early!
Hello
Yes fine to come and collect the car mate. :wink:
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Shame AGU to 7.5 conversion is not straight forward, but some of the European tuners seem to do kits to make it as smooth as possible to change to the 7.5
Do provide more information! But the thought of additional sensors to install etc is only more money. lol
Bloody hell....that IS smooth!
Thats what the me7.5 ecu is like with the Forge actuators, using the mapping to its best to get the load smooth... Just shame the AGU ecu aint as dynamic.
Its amazing. Probably one of the best graphs ive seen!
Got my 3" maf today, save some pennies up and booked back in to see what we can do :P
On my car took around me around 12months to write the base N75 map, boost PID maps, and the linearization map to work this good with the Forge actuator with the yellow spring, The normal N75 map will cause a huge spike and midrange dip where the PID over compensate the boost control
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Shame AGU to 7.5 conversion is not straight forward, but some of the European tuners seem to do kits to make it as smooth as possible to change to the 7.5
Do provide more information! But the thought of additional sensors to install etc is only more money. lol
Bloody hell....that IS smooth!
Thats what the me7.5 ecu is like with the Forge actuators, using the mapping to its best to get the load smooth... Just shame the AGU ecu aint as dynamic.
Its amazing. Probably one of the best graphs ive seen!
Got my 3" maf today, save some pennies up and booked back in to see what we can do :P
On my car took around me around 12months to write the base N75 map, boost PID maps, and the linearization map to work this good with the Forge actuator with the yellow spring, The normal N75 map will cause a huge spike and midrange dip where the PID over compensate the boost control
:) takes a while. With any luck, we will be able to get the current mid range power a bit more and hold a bit longer towards the redline. With the extra torque low down aswell will be nice. Cars a animal between 3000 and 5000 rpm at the minute. Cant imagine how good it will be with a extra 15-20 bhp mid range to play with and a nice peak at redline/high revs :P
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Shame AGU to 7.5 conversion is not straight forward, but some of the European tuners seem to do kits to make it as smooth as possible to change to the 7.5
Do provide more information! But the thought of additional sensors to install etc is only more money. lol
Bloody hell....that IS smooth!
Thats what the me7.5 ecu is like with the Forge actuators, using the mapping to its best to get the load smooth... Just shame the AGU ecu aint as dynamic.
Its amazing. Probably one of the best graphs ive seen!
Got my 3" maf today, save some pennies up and booked back in to see what we can do :P
On my car took around me around 12months to write the base N75 map, boost PID maps, and the linearization map to work this good with the Forge actuator with the yellow spring, The normal N75 map will cause a huge spike and midrange dip where the PID over compensate the boost control
:) takes a while. With any luck, we will be able to get the current mid range power a bit more and hold a bit longer towards the redline. With the extra torque low down aswell will be nice. Cars a animal between 3000 and 5000 rpm at the minute. Cant imagine how good it will be with a extra 15-20 bhp mid range to play with and a nice peak at redline/high revs :P
Your next step is 2.75" maf calibra yellows at 3bar and EBC or MBC, then I will write the part load fuel map for the yellows in to your current map via you posting me your ecu or me sending a my lone ecu, then you borrow a wideband lambda logger and do some logging and report back, it make take a few map tweaks to get it right, but by using two ecus you not going to be without a car.
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Not easier just to pop down for a day/session and let you work on it in the garage? Lol
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Not easier just to pop down for a day/session and let you work on it in the garage? Lol
If you dont mind the trip I will be willing to set it up and finish it off on the dyno for you. When you fitting it then?
Just a note!
Once the 2.75" ID maf and injectors get fitted the map will be SCALED DOWN by the MAF increase % which means all the ignition map will be offset my around +5 /+7deg and the open loop load will be around 28% greater which means more boost demand.
As the car will be running a little richer, the extra timing should not be any cause for major pull (just do some logs to check) As for the the extra load/boost demand I am 99.9% sure on your car the yellow spring in the forge actuator should cap the peak to around 21-22psi but will hold it a lot stronger in the mid range. If the extra load demand cause a spike then you will need to run an MBC line line with the n75 to just cap the peak boost unti you get the car to me for mapping.
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Can fit it whenever. Not the hardest of things to do stocking a set of injectors in and a maf to make fit.
So with the 2.75" ID maf and calibra yellows on at 3 bar won't need a different map on it until I can get to you for tweaks or get my ecu to you? It will just run a bit rich?
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Can fit it whenever. Not the hardest of things to do stocking a set of injectors in and a maf to make fit.
So with the 2.75" ID maf and calibra yellows on at 3 bar won't need a different map on it until I can get to you for tweaks or get my ecu to you? It will just run a bit rich?
Once the 2.75" ID maf and injectors get fitted the map will be SCALED DOWN by the MAF increase % which means all the ignition map will be offset my around +5 /+7deg and the open loop load will be around 28% greater which means more boost demand.
As the car will be running a little richer, the extra timing should not be any cause for major pull (just do some logs to check) As for the the extra load/boost demand I am 99.9% sure on your car the yellow spring in the forge actuator should cap the peak to around 21-22psi but will hold it a lot stronger in the mid range. If the extra load demand cause a spike then you will need to run an MBC line line with the n75 to just cap the peak boost unti you get the car to me for mapping.
You need to log and check the timing and boost... but from experience of the AGU ecu I am 99.9% sure it will be fine once fitted the yellow/2.75" just fine tuning nee on a few fuel maps and some of the load axis on the timing maps at a leter date when your ready.
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Spot on! Ill chuck them in today and do a few logs of the timing (which block is needed for that?) And i presume its a 3rd gear full load pull from start to redline? Which boost blocks need logging?
PS - mate was talking to a guy in a garage and the yellow tops aint all what they are cracked up to be and can sometimes cause misfires. He said they werent the best in the vauxhall lumps either.
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Now on my way to you guys. See you in about two and a half hours!
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Is the MBC fitted in line with the N75?
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Is the MBC fitted in line with the N75?
Not in line but parallel, just to cap the peak boost
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Got my yellows and 3" maf in today.
All good, just a tiny bit hunting idle and we only talking a few rpm's but seems more noticable from the exhaust at the back.
Boosts to 20-21psi peak and occasionally holds the boost at 20psi for a few hundred rpm then holds well throughout the rev range, sometimes at 13-14psi at redline from a quick glance at the guage.
HOWEVER...... there is a occasional/pretty often misfire at about 3250-3750rpm where the engine kind of splutters, not as if the wastegate is being pushed open, just what seems like a ignition issue, just like what it was doing on the denso ik22's but a bit less harsh. That is when the boost is at 20psi. Anywhere after 4000rpm and theres no misfires.
Was told it smells a bit rich, which is understandable, especially when booting it down the road.
Also feels like the power is a lot more at the top end of the rev range now.
Havent had any chance to do some logging, but inform me what blocks I need and will happily supply them.
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Could the hunting be down to the ECU adapting to the new parts?
I'll put mine in soon so we'll have something to compare to :smiley:
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I was putting it down to a slight over fuel in idle. I've done a throttle align and cleared fd codes so ecu shouldn't have any issue really.
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Not a Dub! But Awesome!!!! :laugh:
When we first had this car in 2 years back it was kicking out around 300bhp limited by hardware issues, related to fuel flow and ignition coils. A few live dyno/road mapping session ealry on this year gained around 340bhp, then over the last few weeks tuned to 440bhp limited again by fuel flow (crap complex nissan design) So the 044 motorsport fuel pump was fitted.
Todays live mapping session (after spark plug issues) managed a peak power of 440bhp @1.3bar as a starting block, After many steady state live mapping sessions we worked our way upto 577bhp timing around 21deg and 1.6bar boost.. :wink:
But not the right day to do the road test... had enough of watching my 6 year old son drifting/spining his Bambino race kart this morning and planted it in the tyre wall at 30mph, so dont fancy seeing 577bhp leave the road.
This is one of the 10 cars we are taking santa pod next week weekend.. :wink: Along with a 520bhp Astra Gte, Kadet 490bhp 11.4s 134mph, mk4 1.8T 410bhp, Mk1 1.8T 320bhp, my golf 370+bhp :smug:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1968.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1967.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1972.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1974.jpg)
First runs 440bhp
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1969.jpg)
Runs between live mapping sessions
Videos
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1979.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1979.mp4)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1970.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1970.mp4)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1976.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1976.mp4)
Close up of a tyre on a dyno at around 506bhp on this run.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1977.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1977.mp4)
Final power run 577bhp 1.6bar boost with 8000rpm
(to be uploaded off another phone)
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I've been out in my mates 450bhp R32 GTR which was mental enough, 577bhp must be unreal! :cool:
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I've been out in my mates 450bhp R32 GTR which was mental enough, 577bhp must be unreal! :cool:
Dont know yet... far too wet up hear mate even to run it at .8 bar boost. Only safe place to unleash it all is at the Pod!! :evil:
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they are a lot of car for not a lot of money nowadays.. i would have one in a shot if a insurance company would touch me :grin:
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No wonder I thought my car was off its tits when I removed the Bosch IKC knock control strategy from my map and wrote the timing maps from scratch using det cat to listen for audiable pinking......... The results speak for themselfs.
:cool: :cool: :cool:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/NICK-300BHP.jpg)
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Would that method work on my 1.8t or is it a bit risky? :)
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Holy sh!t Nick, that's awesome.
Chris, leave the mad scientist at work for a bit longer..if it doesn't go bang, we'll follow suit :laugh:
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A time consuming way but sexy results, how much more was you able to squeeze out without the knock sensors present by going by listening for detonation?
Will customers get an option to tune this way, also do you offer more aggressive maps for track cars
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A time consuming way but sexy results, how much more was you able to squeeze out without the knock sensors present by going by listening for detonation?
Will customers get an option to tune this way, also do you offer more aggressive maps for track cars
Maybe track and spring cars, I would need to set a map up like this in the summer and the winter to get the AIT realated correction maps correct and safe for all conditions. I have alway wondered about how good the oe Bosch IKC mapping was in terms of performance, withit of its night and day.
And its another reason AUM feel very quick first thing in the morning from cold for a few mins, the knock contol is switched of below 50deg engine coolant temp. :wink:
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Guess its too early to know how a AGU would treat it with this setup. Do you keep the OE sesnors unplugged then as surely bolting the sensor back on after mapping without will put you back at stage 1?
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would love one of these maps on my mk4, would not care if it blew up lol
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Can't see why an AGU can't have the same done, all you're doing is listening very closely to the engine before detonation occurs while tuning away on the RR, I'm sure the AGU has knock sensors as well from memory, just a case of telling the ECU to ignore them.
Wish I had a rolling road :sad: would love to get more into tuning.
Also Nick, I found this engine, specs seem quite good, think there's room for improvement:
Length: 89 feet
Height: 44 feet
Maximum power: 108,920 hp at 102 rpm
Maximum torque: 5,608,312 lb/ft at 102rpm
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/Engine1.jpg)
I know it's more suited to a mk3, but I'm sure it will fit!
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g71/sibilev/Engine2.jpg)
Hoping the gearbox will last :grin: :grin: :grin:
From another forum :)
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Can't see why an AGU can't have the same done, all you're doing is listening very closely to the engine before detonation occurs while tuning away on the RR, I'm sure the AGU has knock sensors as well from memory, just a case of telling the ECU to ignore them.
Wish I had a rolling road :sad: would love to get more into tuning.
Its all about time and playing, as long as you understand the basics of the otto engine and what effects fuel, timing and boost make then tuning is easy. I have been doing it since 15 years old and I am still learning new stuff.
I will look into the AGU knock control, I have got my wife an Mk4 AGU as her second third car to run around it, I will be doing the same setup for this ready for next summer.
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Damn! I just edited my post, hopefully I'll get a second opinion :nerd:
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Nick, how busy are you in the next couple weeks, potentially on a saturday 12pm or 3pm slot!
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Damn! I just edited my post, hopefully I'll get a second opinion :nerd:
I want to play with that engine...lol huge turbo needed.
The AGU timing maps are very easy around 5 of them related to engine conditions, I think there will be a engine temp start point for the IKC, which means taking that limit to over 100deg temp as the point to start the corrections or just max if off the scale. I will have a read of a tech document and see if I can find it.
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You wouldn't mind pointing me in directions of some 3.8 documents, I've looked at the 7.5 and it made me cry due to the complexity. But I wouldn't mind a read even give it a go if its german, also any direction on tuning forums, I'm registered to a few but the communities have plenty off knowledge but difficult as they want you to learn rather than spoon feeding, which is fine if I had more tools available :undecided:
Would appreciate it if you could drop it in a pm :smiley:
I'm sure this turbo will fit that straight 10:
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcyx2Zxmu0OePEJO6oGmTZktjPmNpOtsfyKsjqACMg3QQ0PyiXZnjlQRIO)
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You wouldn't mind pointing me in directions of some 3.8 documents, I've looked at the 7.5 and it made me cry due to the complexity. But I wouldn't mind a read even give it a go if its german, also any direction on tuning forums, I'm registered to a few but the communities have plenty off knowledge but difficult as they want you to learn rather than spoon feeding, which is fine if I had more tools available :undecided:
Would appreciate it if you could drop it in a pm :smiley:
I'm sure this turbo will fit that straight 10:
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcyx2Zxmu0OePEJO6oGmTZktjPmNpOtsfyKsjqACMg3QQ0PyiXZnjlQRIO)
ME7.5 is easy but you need to work on one section at a time and play. I am one of a few who have a full english PDF 1800 page function doc for the ME7 ecus :wink:. For 3.8 I have to go off d@mos/AL2 files and the help of other tuners on the tuners forum.
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Looks like I will have to tell the 3.8 off and look at wiring in a 7.5 at some point, a bit off to the side, any chance you have launch control on the EDC15 available with your remaps?
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Looks like I will have to tell the 3.8 off and look at wiring in a 7.5 at some point, a bit off to the side, any chance you have launch control on the EDC15 available with your remaps?
Start with 3.8, its easy to understand. You will have to pop up for a day and watch over us and see whats tuning is all about, we will show you whats what and show you how to reanslate VCDS reading back to an actual map. I have managed static rpm limiters but it dont work too well trying to set it up as a LC add on, managed to do brake and boost mapping to allow full fuel IQ request with the brake pressed down, which make for an wicked 3rd gear rolling start launch. :grin:
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Not a Dub! But Awesome!!!! :laugh:
When we first had this car in 2 years back it was kicking out around 300bhp limited by hardware issues, related to fuel flow and ignition coils. A few live dyno/road mapping session ealry on this year gained around 340bhp, then over the last few weeks tuned to 440bhp limited again by fuel flow (crap complex nissan design) So the 044 motorsport fuel pump was fitted.
Todays live mapping session (after spark plug issues) managed a peak power of 440bhp @1.3bar as a starting block, After many steady state live mapping sessions we worked our way upto 577bhp timing around 21deg and 1.6bar boost.. :wink:
But not the right day to do the road test... had enough of watching my 6 year old son drifting/spining his Bambino race kart this morning and planted it in the tyre wall at 30mph, so dont fancy seeing 577bhp leave the road.
This is one of the 10 cars we are taking santa pod next week weekend.. :wink: Along with a 520bhp Astra Gte, Kadet 490bhp 11.4s 134mph, mk4 1.8T 410bhp, Mk1 1.8T 320bhp, my golf 370+bhp :smug:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1968.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1967.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1972.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1974.jpg)
First runs 440bhp
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1969.jpg)
Runs between live mapping sessions
Videos
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1979.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1979.mp4)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1970.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1970.mp4)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1976.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1976.mp4)
Close up of a tyre on a dyno at around 506bhp on this run.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_1977.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_1977.mp4)
Final power run 577bhp 1.6bar boost with 8000rpm
(to be uploaded off another phone)
In the end this car only made it to the gates of santa pod last week, due to eating spark plugs and having major missfire under load after arounf 30 miles on each set of plugs, which has now been fixed by fitting a new ignition amp which gave a slight improvment in midrange power. We thought as we had a stronger spark we could get a little more power from the beast, so a sunday morning remapping session was needed today.... the results close on 590bhp.. :laugh: Its set at 590bhp to do a few weeks road testing, once all is well I think the aim will be 2bar boost and 620+bhp ready for santa pod end of year shows.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2025.jpg)
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Damn! I want that power!
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Damn! I want that power!
So do i with a Turbo spool valve.. :wink:
The result of my water meth failing, and the reason for the puff of smoke over the line in my last run.. :grin:
Cylinder 3 melted piston crown and exhuast valve been consumed as fuel..lol
IMO it would not of happened if the water had been cooling the cylinders as it should have been and the car was mapped for zero timing pull using detcan with WMI on., the reason all the other cylinders are 100% spot on and number 3 dead, it that number 3 is the closest cylinder to the turbo and has the shortest manifold running to the turbo. A cylinder honnned out and another piston and valve to go in Tuesday, then fab an EGT sensor probe on number 3 runner of the manifold to montior whats going on. I think I can say I know where the limit is of the stock AUM k03s manifold...lol I am going for one more run at pod with the R-Tech K04001-023 hybrid turbo, the low comp pistons, 700cc+ injectors with twin scroll GT35R and one of a few in the uk running a Performance Quick Spool Valve .. :laugh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6ZCOTFET6s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KNLKVgg8po&feature=related
number 3
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2022.jpg)
number 2
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Thats bloody clever!
Guess it only works on a twin scroll turbo then?
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Thats bloody clever!
Guess it only works on a twin scroll turbo then?
Only for twin port/scroll turbines but just think of a quick spooling gt35 on a 1.8T.... Looks like I am upping my game and going to aim to be one of the quickest 2wd mk4 at the 1/4 mile in the UK. If I can have the 330lbft from 3500rpm with NOS and QSV and push 500+bhp at 8000rpm,run full slick drag tyres then hello 11 second club.. :laugh:
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it was quick enough last time with no N75. I'll only come up again once you've rebuilt it lol
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Expect a 1.8t k03s with calibra yellow and 2.75" MAF next wednesday :p. can't wait!
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awesome, I can steal your map next time I'm up then :grin:
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awesome, I can steal your map next time I'm up then :grin:
Need an FTP server and produce golfgti forum generic remap for everyone to share.... :grin:
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it would save me a fortune in fuel :grin:
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it would save me a fortune in fuel :grin:
You should have got an AUM..lol You can remap them via cheap ebay vagcom leads, you do the logging and feedback I edit the map for more logging... Remote tuning
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shame this doesnt work on a AGU!
Id have a spare so i could learn to map it and probably end up blowing it up lmfao!
Cant wait for wednesday!
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shame this doesnt work on a AGU!
Id have a spare so i could learn to map it and probably end up blowing it up lmfao!
Cant wait for wednesday!
£35 to read and write AGU ecu then £120 for rework station.....
The first tool I purchased http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Willem-5-0-EPROM-Programmer-Adapter-PSOP44-C68-/200656369433?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2eb80d3719 then 3 weeks later went and spent £1200 on a labprog+ only to find out my old willem was just as good.
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Thought you could do AGU through OBD2?
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Thought you could do AGU through OBD2?
£1200 for the tools which do OBD, there are only 3 or4 tools which will do it via OBD. I used to love chip tuning the AGUs, with my can of lynx to prop the scuttle panel up so I could just slide the ecu out.
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Bloody hell that isnt cheap!
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How not to write a base map out of hours.... and at the same time teach a 6 year old how to write a map, open a bottle of Budweiser, learn French language and destroy a keyboard.... :embarassed:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_2040.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_2040.mp4)
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Haha, great!
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Hehe that's quality. The future of R-Tech? :cool:
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as long as the little one writes me a awesome map for wednesday lol
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Update to the R-Tech diary/ gallery, been too busy taking pictures, but you have not not been missing much, just mk5 gti after mk5 gti for the last 2 weeks..lol thanks to mk5golf forum members. :wink:
Nice little mk3 with an engine conversion, running an AGU with uprated CR Turbo Ko3s 224bhp 225lbft after a 2 hour mapping session today, more to come. Its running a LSD with some kind of Audi 5 speed gear box with some awesome gear ratios, it gives the car a feeling of a big turbo power in 1st gear, no power until 4200rpm, but the power at 7000rpm feels like the power should be at 4000rpm... You know what I mean.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2033.jpg)
Yet another Seat Leon 170 stuck in DPF regen mode.... :grin: Booked in for a DPF hardware removal, virgin state ecu mapping then a custom remap if all is ok.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2037.jpg)
My drive way for the back log of work, one mk5 gti goes home and Audi 4wd 2.0TFSI fills the slot.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2035.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2036.jpg)
And the custom remap which I have spent the last week and around 50 hours working on getting it spot on.
Mk5 GTI with Audi S3 k04 turbo, S3 13% bigger injectors, uprated HPFP, turbo back exhaust ect... 335bhp :smug:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/GRAPH-2.jpg)
My longest custom remap in history (Yohan) VW Bora with 4 motion running gear and S3 AMK Ko4 engine setup , I already had car for over a month now.. :embarassed: but keep running into issues. New high flow fuel pump fitted to improve poor spary pattern and to get the actual lambda to match the requested values. From the seat of my pants testing I can tell straight away the pump has made a huge difference to the performance... maybe we can run it at 24psi and make 275+bhp at the top end without any major pre ignition issues.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2026.jpg)
A mk5 140TDi which was booked in last week for a remap, which at the time we refused point blank to remap the car due to a sticky turbo VNT, customer rebooked in this week so we can fix the sticky turbo VNT then do a custom map setup. The funny thing is that this mk5 only has 45k on the clock.... but already has had a brand new OEM turbo fitted by the main dealer with in this 45k... and now the new turbo as clogged up... not good!!! I think other tuners will agree the worst VAG to tune is a 2.0l 140PD (cheese turbos)... nothing like the older 1.9Tdi setups.
Fingers crossed by sorting the sticky VNT and doing some unique R-Tech mods to the turbo hardware, this mk5 should be good for over 130k with the R-Tech remap. (It would have only lasted 2 weeks with the R-Tech and the sticky VNT.. even running on the low boost map setting of 1.45bar from the 1.35bar stock
:embarassed:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2034.jpg)
After the last month we have just had..IMO the busiest (hectic) of the year I find it hard to shut down and unwind, I lay in bed at 3am in the morning thinkng how I am going to tackle a customers car the next day....lol
Well I found the answer today.... :grin: MORE power and More Speed!!! A race setup 125cc go-kart.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_IMG_2038.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=IMG_2038.mp4)
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i wish i poped down to the go kart track now looks fun lol.
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i wish i poped down to the go kart track now looks fun lol.
Its madness... still buzzing now. I only get 40mins track time before the 3pm job turned up. :evil:
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next time i am down that way, i will give ur track a blast befor i go home!
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Nick whats the best way to contact you, as I am heavily interested in mapping and wouldn't mind popping up at some point to get a few pointers, think I will get that chip reader and play around with the chips.
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Nick whats the best way to contact you, as I am heavily interested in mapping and wouldn't mind popping up at some point to get a few pointers, think I will get that chip reader and play around with the chips.
The truth?
IMHO the best way to get me is persistence :wink: lol
97 PMs on this forum, 102 PMs on ukmkivs, 10 pms on mk5golfgti, 2 pages of A4 with numbers to call back, Ben now answers all the emails every morning, I think he has just finished Tuedays, then he has just sent me around 22 emails which he cannot answer.. Phone is hit and miss as the dyno is in the same room as the office. (A bit of a fecked up admin setup at R-tech, at least the maps get done)
ps
Text is always good.. :wink: When I am doing a coast down run on the dyno a can always give a quick reply or at night when I am chiiling out.
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So how many pm's will it take to get your number :grin:
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So how many pm's will it take to get your number :grin:
everyone has my number..
Old website > http://bigbhp.co.uk/ :grin:
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Strangely enough, i dont even have it yet nick lmfao.
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I actually enjoy the drive up, I don't get to play on the motorways much due to living over here so it's a bit of a treat, sad as it is :embarassed:
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Serviced it last night with new mani and turbo gasket and fresh oil and NGK R plugs and feels totally different already!
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Serviced it last night with new mani and turbo gasket and fresh oil and NGK R plugs and feels totally different already!
You dont need me then!! lol
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Spent an afternoon doing a stage1 custom remap on an Audi TT 1.8T BAM 85k, I think it is the best result I have ever had/seen from a stage 1 setup with just DV and V-power fuel. Its running no morw boost than any other stage1 BAM would, its all made up on the fine balance of fuel/timing.
Max air Flow 212gs = 265bhp
Timing CF is in full control of the ecu and is not costing power when running 6CF, Only pit fall is the customer need to keep using V-power. :grin:
Well worth the customers 3hr drive.. and well worth the extra effort which I put in to the map.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2050.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2055.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2056.jpg)
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Then at the same time on the dyno next door I am doing a stage 3 map for an Astra GSI with VXR turbo and injectors ect... which ended up at 350lbft, just need some more time to work on the power curve next week, These maps are going to end up as this tuners generic retail maps for his customer, I feel proud to be doing the custom maps for them, the mapping is the same structure as the 1.8T me7 and I find it easy to understand... but I know naff all about the hardware side of the Z20LET, which is where the tuner comes in to his own.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2051.jpg)
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Serviced it last night with new mani and turbo gasket and fresh oil and NGK R plugs and feels totally different already!
You dont need me then!! lol
Yessssss it does need some more tuning!!!!
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Awesome result with the TT Nick, the text made me smile :)
Interesting note about the mapping structure for the VX crowd, tuner is lucky to have you so close lol
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Awesome result with the TT Nick, the text made me smile :)
Interesting note about the mapping structure for the VX crowd, tuner is lucky to have you so close lol
The VX stuff is fun for me , I just write the maps from the data I am getting back from the other tuner he tells me what boost to runs, I dial that boost in with the timing and fuel I think is best, then we will spend hours dyno / road logging and give me the result so i can see where to make changes. It would be awsome to find someone like this for vags 1.8T-2.0Tfsi as it would save me no end of time.
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Another GTI show and another fastest in class for an R-Tech tuned car... :drool:
Well done James, looks like its me and you head to head next year dude!!
Next year our aim is to take every award for fastest in class for every show. :wink:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2087.jpg)
2.0TFSI Oil Pick up pipe blocked = Low oil pressure warning
I thought I broke a 78k 2.0TFSI.... :embarassed: I was happy custom mapping it from stock to stage2 power when the engine decided to cut out and give me a low oil pressure warning. :angry: Panic set on for a few mins, only until I called the customer to ask him if it happend before, I was shocked :shocked: when he said yes, just turn the ignotion on and off and it will be fine.. :lipsrsealed:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2091.jpg)
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So if you have a 2.0TFSI get your oil pick up pipes checked out, it looks like they are going to be worse than the 1.8Ts in the long run. IMO if you have 80k+ and for what it costs get it replaced.
What can I say? My school boy dream car... :grin:
Power run 350bhp with blocked cats, Its booked in for full turbo back exhaust system. :wink:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2088.jpg)
Audi A3 2.0TFSI Q turbo back exhaust system and R-Tech custom stage 2 remap.
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Funny thing was that the stock power run should have been spec1, as he met a tuner in a car park who wrote a spec1 remap to his ecu and took his money... we found it was still running the stock code?? :angry:
Now we have Yohans car meeting the requested lambda at the top end and the injection on times are much lower which stopped the -12cf ignition pull, we started to do the bulk of the map tuning this after noon.... how bloody easy it was with all the hardware running as it should. :laugh:
There is a little more left to have on the top end power as the boost contol is only around 89-90%, but I am happy with the output we managed this afternoon, I am 110% sure if we put the car on the dyno from cold tomorrrow morning it will easy be 280+ as it was making 277bhp with heat soak after 11 runs.. :smug:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2097.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2098.jpg)
and before the the comments come again saying its BS, here are the actaul logs, one of around 108 logs we have carried out on this Bora.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2096.jpg)
On a brand new maf the / .8 rule works 100% :wink: We did another log after this and descreened the maf and made 233gs, but Jim forgot to start the dyno logger..lol
Next task.. tomorrow night with a few bottles of Bud on my home pc, is to write the launch control maps, linear throttle maps and fine tune the idle torque and rpm to work better with Yohan clutch setup. The its going back to North Scotland on Friday after close on 2 months at R-Tech.
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Now we have Yohans car meeting the requested lambda at the top end and the injection on times are much lower which stopped the -12cf ignition pull, we started to do the bulk of the map tuning this after noon.... how bloody easy it was with all the hardware running as it should. :laugh:
There is a little more left to have on the top end power as the boost contol is only around 89-90%, but I am happy with the output we managed this afternoon, I am 110% sure if we put the car on the dyno from cold tomorrrow morning it will easy be 280+ as it was making 277bhp with heat soak after 11 runs.. :smug:
and before the the comments come again saying its BS, here are the actaul logs, one of around 108 logs we have carried out on this Bora.
On a brand new maf the / .8 rule works 100% :wink: We did another log after this and descreened the maf and made 233gs, but Jim forgot to start the dyno logger..lol
Next task.. tomorrow night with a few bottles of Bud on my home pc, is to write the launch control maps, linear throttle maps and fine tune the idle torque and rpm to work better with Yohan clutch setup. The its going back to North Scotland on Friday after close on 2 months at R-Tech.
Awesome, awesome, awesome! 233g/s!! Fook me..I make that to be 291bhp..that would be awesome! Is that with the Badger5 TIP or the prototype? Will be interesting to compare.
What are your thoughts on the eBay FMIC core Nick, is heat soak after 11 runs fairly typical? Something that water injection would help I'm sure :wink:
So is the MAF staying de-screened?
This is providing great offshore entertainment for me :grin:
Can't praise R-Tech enough, worth the trip from Aberdeen everytime :smiley:
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Hi Nick,
Finally found you post about my TT! Well chuffed, it's awesome thanks so much. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Keep us posted on your TIP development!
See you soon
John
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Hi Nick,
Finally found you post about my TT! Well chuffed, it's awesome thanks so much. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Keep us posted on your TIP development!
See you soon
John
Doing the tip now on Yohans Bora, results on the same mapping back to back are the sfs hose spools the turbo faster and managed to make 4bhp & 16lbft more power with the peak torque and power around 200rpm sooner. :wink:
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What was the corsa running sunday? Seen it being set up well presume that's what was happening.
Didn't think you opened sundays or would have tried to bring my mapping forwards.
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Hi Nick,
Finally found you post about my TT! Well chuffed, it's awesome thanks so much. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Keep us posted on your TIP development!
See you soon
John
Doing the tip now on Yohans Bora, results on the same mapping back to back are the sfs hose spools the turbo faster and managed to make 4bhp & 16lbft more power with the peak torque and power around 200rpm sooner. :wink:
Sweeeeet, once I get a Downpipe and decat on ill be back hopefully next month and I'll have one of those :)
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What was the corsa running sunday? Seen it being set up well presume that's what was happening.
Didn't think you opened sundays or would have tried to bring my mapping forwards.
Sunday is only for live mapping session for big turbo setups 400+bhp, as we have to change the dyno brake config and noise is less of an issue on the ind est. The corsa managed to do 402bhp at around 1.2bar, its got the turbo setup to go more power but the customer only wanted 400bhp, not bad as at 10am in the morning it was only making 250bhp.. :grin:
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What was the corsa running sunday? Seen it being set up well presume that's what was happening.
Didn't think you opened sundays or would have tried to bring my mapping forwards.
Sunday is only for live mapping session for big turbo setups 400+bhp, as we have to change the dyno brake config and noise is less of an issue on the ind est. The corsa managed to do 402bhp at around 1.2bar, its got the turbo setup to go more power but the customer only wanted 400bhp, not bad as at 10am in the morning it was only making 250bhp.. :grin:
Thought it would be something like that, sounded far from just the normal 2.0t corsa's you see.
Think everyone was more interested in that than the cars going on dynodaze rollers.
Any other things advised to check before coming for stage 2 mapping? Fitted rev D diverter valve saturday, pcv all checked and okay.
Cheers
David
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Hi Nick,
Finally found you post about my TT! Well chuffed, it's awesome thanks so much. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Keep us posted on your TIP development!
See you soon
John
Doing the tip now on Yohans Bora, results on the same mapping back to back are the sfs hose spools the turbo faster and managed to make 4bhp & 16lbft more power with the peak torque and power around 200rpm sooner. :wink:
That's awesome, can I keep it please? :smiley:
And you said there was room for improvement at the top end as well?
How did it do this morning after sitting over night? Is the MAF still de-screened?
233g/s & 290lbft = YES PLEASE lol.
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Final result with SFS prototype 3" TIP and the R-Tech Prototype cold air box for cone filter. We founf the torque we was looking for.
The maf logs show a huge gain in midrange torque which are backed up by the dyno plot.. :grin: 290+lbft The best 023 results I think I have ever seen? The aim of the/design of SFS tip was to make more midrange power not peak bhp/ flow gain. The is no evidence saying this tip will make more PEAK power vs the other TIPs on the market, at this stage of tune its about the same but the other tips could flow better at the top end when going 285+bhp or hybrid turbo
If your looking for peak power over 285+bhp or going hybrid turbo then from what I have seen the Badger5 v1 has proven numbers and I have tuned many cars with B5 V1 tip fitted.
If your only looking at spec1/ spec2 power 280bhp then from my testing the SFS is a very good investment IMO.
The main gain from the SFS tip is the turbo spooling and air speed, this allows the turbo to spool and draw more air faster from lower rpm which resulted in peak gains of 16lbft..
Photo of the 3" SFS Tip linked to the prototype R-Tech enclosed Cold Air box using Yohans Jetex Air filter.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2100.jpg)
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Final result with SFS prototype 3" TIP and the R-Tech Prototype cold air box for cone filter.
The maf logs show a huge gain in midrange torque which are backed up by the dyno plot.. :grin: 282bhp/290+lbft The best 023 results I think I have ever seen?
The back to back maf logs with the B5 3" tip v SFS 3" tip show the peak air flow gain is around 2gs (2.5bhp) more with the SFS tips but this can be put down to many factors as its such a low reading.. The main gain from the SFS tip is the turbo spooling and air speed, this allows the turbo to spool and draw more air faster from lower rpm which resulted in peak gains of 16lbft..
I left my usb stick at work so I dont have the logs to hand, but if you check out SFS facbook you will see the graphs I emailed to them.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/SFSHoses
Photo of the 3" SFS Tip linked to the prototype R-Tech enclosed Cold Air box using Yohans Jetex Air filter.
Very cool Nick, and great results as well (as predicted).
Unfortunately I can't look at Facebook out here, blocked as it's "Personal & Dating" LOL.
Look forward to graphs.
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Well I went down on wednesday bright and early to get injectors and MAF tweaked in. Nick got it on the dyno and did a run to see what it was doing, really bad misfires which we initially thought was fuelling. Checked fuel pump for pressure and found to be weak, so replaced that with a R-tech tweaked uprated 225lph pump :) Made nice pressure on the rail but still a misfire so we tried adjusting the fuelling on both ends of the scale and still remained so was down to hardware. Tried a set of coil-packs which instantly made it a lot better and limited the misfires to one or two on peak boost. ordered a set of new genuine coil-packs from TPS and stuck them in and back on the rollers to get the fuelling set up nicely.
Made consistant power all day after the engine got over its misfires which is great and proves the great efficiency of the THS intercooler. I looked at inlet temps late on in the day and wasnt more than 28.5c at the inlet!
So after about 4-5 hours changing maps and running on the dyno, we got to a figure which was great! Achieved 247bhp@4506rpm and 297lbft@3660rpm.
heres the graph of the above:
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/IMG_0078.jpg)
The torque figure as dropped down to protect the rods from damage so end result was 248bhp@5172rpm (228bhp@wheels) and 277lbft@3112rpm (262lbft@wheels).
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/IMG_0077.jpg)
Feels like a totally different car and is such a pleasure to drive now. There is just power in every gear from every rpm all the way to the redline. Still had plenty of pull at 140 which is just madness!!! (on my private land)
Really cant recommend Nick and the team enough, the amount of time and dedication, and customer service is just totally unreal. Never met anyone like the team there! Even mate said they are some of the most friendly, advising and knowledgeable people around and he had only met them this morning. Cant wait to take his GT28 clio down to them late this year :)
It was always going to happen at some point aswell:
http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=242865
cant wait to get this on different sets of rollers to see what it makes, but as we all know, peak bhp isnt always the best option!
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lol I would take massive offence to all that sh!t talk if I was you and Nick...
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I remember tshirt2k, thread in mk4 section not to long ago:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=209277.40
I'll back nick up on the results, as I have seen other European tuner's pull similar out the hat with the following setup:
Any dyno is a lottery, your figures will vary from time of day to time of year, that is a k03s on an AGU... he's got:
63.5mm exhaust
1.8 NA camshaft
large injectors
Forge cold air intake
Forge actuator (blue spring)
Stock K03s turbo
4bar FPR
Larger MAF
FMIC
Tested on Maha dyno, 100octane fuel, 25degree advance... and it's in a polo.
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2902/img0034custom2a.jpg)
Also nick you familiar with the 20vT cams being swapped with the 20v NA cams? Any idea on degrees and benefit?
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Keyboard warriors who aint got a clue...lol maybe they had a k03s setup on a generic stage 2 map.
You can not make 240bhp+ on a k03s with a stock actuator, but with the forge actuator with added spring load then its another story.. :wink:. Most of my dyno plots have been back up on JKMS dyno in the past, and my maps tend to see higher numbers on other peoples dynos, plus Chris has all the maf logs before the yellow injectors where fitted with the stock maf which showed 230+bhp with n75% below 90%.. :grin:
You might want to do some maf logs chris and post them up, or even find a local dyno.. :cool:
Yer the turbo is being ran out of the "paper work"compressor map, its being ran to the limits I have been testing for the last 4 years, and at a point I am happy to tune to with the supporting mods. If there was an issues running it this hard then I am sure I would have many many unhappy customer with naf K03s turbo.
If your on clubgti you might want to point out my k04-024 map, which made 270bhp from stage and badger 5 tip, which one of there sponsors tested and said in a post its the best k04-023 he had run on his dyno at the time.
My stage1 K03s maps make 220bhp with easy with just decat and FMIC and "good fuel"
(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/Golf%20GTI%20RR%20Day%2003%2010%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/BAV.gif)
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Ill get the MAF logs and get them up at some point, just need some more fuel in haha. Over £100 of fuel in the last week but more than worth it! I even have maf logs of 184-187g/s and that was before injectors and a larger maf housing.
Car ran consistently in the 240s I dont think at one point during all the map files it made less than 240bhp.
Car will go on some local rollers at some point this year!
Which blocks can i log for things? I know block 002 is MAF. Block 025 is the N75 duty cycle. Correct?
Which one logs the ignition timing?
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13 is what you want for timing pull, this in a fasion shows your getting enough timing its how I work, I work up to around -6 or until I stop mapping power on the dyno with increments of 0.75deg on the whole advance table, then work at WOT on the full load points vs rpm.
184-187gs = 230bhp which if I remember is what the dyno spat out as well.. :wink:
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Sweet! Whats the calculation for the larger ID MAF? Is the the MAF figure * (the increase in surface area of stock vs larger MAF) / 0.8?
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I would not worry about it too much Chris..
The 1/4 results say it all, and the two fastest in class awards from GTI inters 2011 & GTI Autum Show 2011 , my car and customers car.
My AUM 2wd
14.2 101mph 1/4 mile with K03s
13.8s 103mph 1/4mile car with k04-001
13.1s 110mph 1/4 mile car with k04-001 with 023 cold side
12.6s 115mph 1/4 mile car with k04-001 with 023 cold side and NOS
Rtech tuned 2wd Golf mk4 AGU 440cc injectors T304e turbo £150 from ebay made 411bhp
12.3s 122mph 1/4 at santa pod
and won fastest in class last weekend with 12.5s
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Oh go on Nick, you know you want to tell me the formula for working it out!!! ;) :P
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Sweet! Whats the calculation for the larger ID MAF? Is the the MAF figure * (the increase in surface area of stock vs larger MAF) / 0.8?
yes, Increased area %
I dont rescale the linear maf line I keep it stock and scale the axis and fuel to make the car run 100%, some might say wrong way with AGU, but my method works 110%.
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Oh go on Nick, you know you want to tell me the formula for working it out!!! ;) :P
I had to ask on facebook last time I wanted to work the area% out, as I never did maths as school.. :embarassed: I only used the calculation once so work out maf increase sizes vs injector size to make my maps work with little messing around.
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Its alright, ill be asking google how you work out % increase!!
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:) Glad I remembered! learnt sooo much from watching the day go by from start to finish, Its the stuff I like to see, even learning about the throttle maps between driver input and ECU response and how it can be altered to make the driver more in control. Would love to fully understand how to map cars properly instead of clicking a map file and waiting 3 1/2 minutes and sending people on their way!
Really is amazing stuff!
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:) Glad I remembered! learnt sooo much from watching the day go by from start to finish, Its the stuff I like to see, even learning about the throttle maps between driver input and ECU response and how it can be altered to make the driver more in control. Would love to fully understand how to map cars properly instead of clicking a map file and waiting 3 1/2 minutes and sending people on their way!
Really is amazing stuff!
Its becomes a buzz learning and understanding, there are many good tuner forums out there which basic guides, the s4 tuning wiki has helped me other the year.. :wink:
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Just a shame I dont ahve a rolling road in the garage and a tool to remap the car aswell! Somehow I dont think that comes cheap!
Will definately have a read of that wiki when i have time!
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Just a shame I dont ahve a rolling road in the garage and a tool to remap the car aswell! Somehow I dont think that comes cheap!
Will definately have a read of that wiki when i have time!
Ebay £5500k
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Brilliant stuff guys, I'll book myself back in once the new year rolls over for near enough identical spec :smiley:
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Reply to my text banna brains :kiss:
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lol I would take massive offence to all that sh!t talk if I was you and Nick...
I made a post on there to reply to all the comments, stating about the forge actuators holding the boost better, and pointed out my 1/4 mile times in reply to a members comments.............. and it got removed :angry: as the owner of the site thought it was an advert and the paid sponsors would be unhappy... little Bias but not too worry its only fair to paid sponsors.
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So everyone is allowed to slate what you do but when you back it up with facts it gets removed? Is that site some sort of fascist regime?
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So everyone is allowed to slate what you do but when you back it up with facts it gets removed? Is that site some sort of fascist regime?
Its not a slating, there are people there on both sides. Things like this used to worry me and I flet like it had to prove a poiny but now I can take with a pintch of salt and let the situation prove its own point in the long run.. :wink:
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Start handling out r tech stickers, when they start getting beat with cars repping your name they will change their mind.
Strip times prooved it, it is possible as I put a AGU ko3s dyno plot up with similar spec somewhat, if its not enough let them get on with it.
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I never get RTech stickers !
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Seen a thread on CGTI
K03s running near 250hp ? LOL LOL LOL
requesting waaaay too much boost.. bye bye turbo..
some of those guys on CGTI know a lot more than some people on here think..
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Seen a thread on CGTI
K03s running near 250hp ? LOL LOL LOL
requesting waaaay too much boost.. bye bye turbo..
some of those guys on CGTI know a lot more than some people on here think..
Is it knowing a lot from tagging on and reading other forums and posts or is it from there own personal development?
If you have a good read you will find k03s with stock actuators dont make power, then ones with forge actuators are making good power and are out of compressor map range.
And as for requesting too much boost, you find me a customer with a blown k03s due to a remap.
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Is it knowing a lot from tagging on and reading other forums and posts or is it from there own personal development?
If you study some of the detailed threads, you will realise its from alot of development, on many vehicles. Just because its not on the net, it doesn't mean its not being done. Not everything needs advertising.
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Lets see these threads then! Because something doesn't work well on another car, doesn't mean its going to not work well on another.
What setup were you guys using?
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Lets see these threads then! Because something doesn't work well on another car, doesn't mean its going to not work well on another.
What setup were you guys using?
Who said i was doing anything? I've played with my own engine which isnt a 20v and know certain characteristics.
Use the search on there to look into the level of detail an engines characteristic can be studied. Then you will realise this philosophy can be applied to any engine configuration.
Numbers don't mean anything. But how a 20vt has peak power at 4500rpm, says something isnt quite right. Hence the comparison to diesel outputs.
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I have no idea what to search for over there...never been on it until I was pointed out to the thread.
What peak power would you expect a 20vt to give at what RPM?
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You need to do some research on the 20v characteristics. Its not about numbers, its more regarding the shape of the curves in relation to rpm etc.
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Theres so much that can change the line of the graphs as per RPM. Both software and hardware.
We had some old coilpacks in it and whilst is still pulled the same bhp up top, putting a BRAND NEW GENUINE set in made a much better curve down low compared to the older ones, even without software changes.
Look at the 2 graphs I posted, the peak boost and the 277lbft torque one. THe peak power is 666rpm later on in the rev range running less boost than what it was with a 25psi peak/spike. Those runs were done back to back on the dyno literally within minutes of each other.
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The way I see it is there will always be people rightly or wrongly that will pull apart whatever you do and TBH I'm sick of it
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Lets see these threads then! Because something doesn't work well on another car, doesn't mean its going to not work well on another.
What setup were you guys using?
Who said i was doing anything? I've played with my own engine which isnt a 20v and know certain characteristics.
Use the search on there to look into the level of detail an engines characteristic can be studied. Then you will realise this philosophy can be applied to any engine configuration.
Numbers don't mean anything. But how a 20vt has peak power at 4500rpm, says something isnt quite right. Hence the comparison to diesel outputs.
Its peak power at 4500-5000rpm because the turbo wont make and more above that, if your wanting the 240+bhp peak power 6000rpm+ then the k03s is not the turbo to use. MY method of tuning small turbo is not like any other tuner, I have found the k03s sweet point and found my way to make the most from it from the way i map as mentioned a few posts above.
Now if your saying you have not seen peak power around 4500rpm then you have never seen a k03s tuned in this manner have you?
If the normal is to tune on CGTI is aim for peak power higher up around 6000rpm then your only ever going to get your k03s turbo to 230-235bhp max like it shows in the graph. To get a k03s AGU to produce peak power at 7000rpm then your looking at less than 200bhp power. (all this information can back found on the forums)
The offer to CGTI members is still on, If a car comes to me with simlar spec than Chris's I will map it for free, then you can put it on every dyno in the land and do as much logging as you want.
It will make me look a total fool and destroy my excellent reputation from over the past 7 years if I am proven wrong and about my tuning methods, OR it will give an eye opener to CGTI members who are wanting a faster AGU K03s setup.. :wink:
I have nothing to hide or to worry about when it comes to 1.8T tuning, its all I do day in day out.
Have a word with your CGTI sponsor Bill who ran one of my spec1 Ko3s remaps with decat at over 230bhp with maf logs to back up his dyno results.
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k03s spec1 mapping
AUM small port engine with air filter and turbo back exhaust system.
My stage 1 maps will run .79 lambda and a timing advance to take in to account the exhaust back pressure on cylinder 3 which is an issue when running the stock cat. What number do you think it will get with a FMIC, lambda set to 12.4:1 and custom setting the timing on its own merits even with out adding any extra load/boost request? It not all about the boost at the end of the day its about the FULL combination of, boost-fuel-timing-dynamic thermal efficiency-flow.
(http://www.badger-5.com/bin/Dyno/asn-061110/DynoIT%20-%20X875NKO.jpg)
The guys build thread can be found on Audi sport along with his vdcs logs.. :wink:
Now I am laying out my findings It would be nice to have some one post up to back up there claims on why it wont make 240+bhp
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The curve on the 20vT engines your on about is down the the turbo, as revs increase the demand for air increases, when the turbo starts to not be able to supply the demand the curb drops. You have a choice, you can have a max bhp of around 200 where it tails up and just lightly tails off to near that bhp mark (look at remapped k03 AGU's, they follow this trend). Or you can go, lets make a big ass high and maximize all that small little turbo can give at its maximum output then tail off drastically to the 200bhp mark as it runs out off puff. These are all normal characteristics of turbo's, only way can you be able to achieve a higher bhp at the end off the rev range will be a bigger turbo as the k03 is a tiny unit and will not meet the demand off the engine at them revs.
You remember the k03s I posted up earlier in the 260 figures, that was pretty much with the wastegate forced shut, you are forcing that turbo to it's limits with a serious spike.
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The curve on the 20vT engines your on about is down the the turbo, as revs increase the demand for air increases, when the turbo starts to not be able to supply the demand the curb drops. You have a choice, you can have a max bhp of around 200 where it tails up and just lightly tails off to near that bhp mark (look at remapped k03 AGU's, they follow this trend). Or you can go, lets make a big ass high and maximize all that small little turbo can give at its maximum output then tail off drastically to the 200bhp mark as it runs out off puff. These are all normal characteristics of turbo's, only way can you be able to achieve a higher bhp at the end off the rev range will be a bigger turbo as the k03 is a tiny unit and will not meet the demand off the engine at them revs.
You remember the k03s I posted up earlier in the 260 figures, that was pretty much with the wastegate forced shut, you are forcing that turbo to it's limits.
Same wave length going on here dude!!
I am sure the next comments will be, the turbos blowing up/ not safe ect. :grin: No reports as yet, and my development k03s was pushed flat out with a blue spring, the turbo had alread done around 155k and had no issues. Whyt no push a stage 2 k03s as hard as a k04-023 in the midrange? check out the core specs. :wink: Same core as my k04-001-023 which pushes 300bhp or in real world chat 13.1s 1/4 at pod, and during testing has been boosting +28psi and has been driven very hard for well over a year now.
ps
I got your text I will reply once it got charge.
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Heres a few figures for you. Runs were done in 3rd gear: ~1500rpm - 7200rpm redline. (one set of logs has a 3rd - 4th gearchange in which is shown in results.)
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/248bhplogs.jpg)
*obvilously the MAF needs scalling for the % increase in surface area. (off to google i go!)
Heres the logs in excel form for people to play around with:
http://hostapix.co.uk/excel/248bhplogstrimmed.xlsx
Trimmed them down to remove rundown / time between logs.
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Whats stock diameter and whats the new diameter? 2.5" to 2.75"?
Remember πr² equals area, puts the two area's over each other to work out the percentage and go from there, or let me know the MAF sizes and I'll work out the percentage increase... or in theroy it would be:
2.75/2.5 = 1.1
so you would times the cross section by 1.1...
2.5 * 1.1 = 2.75 :smiley:
or 1.1 is the same as 110%, so 2.5*110% = 2.75
Also chris I got the trumpet today :grin: Thanks a bunch!
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Sweet. Glad it got there!
What do you do with the 1.1though? That works out to be a 10% increase. and adding 10% onto those figures doesn't give the bhp.....probably near enough impossible to work out now due to amount of changes!
Im no mathematician!
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1.1 is the same as 110%, times the figures by 110%, just edited last post :wink:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK251&q=1.1+%25&oq=1.1+%25&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=181l3001l0l3340l4l4l0l0l0l0l645l1190l0.1.0.1.0.1l3l0#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK251&biw=1600&bih=790&source=hp&q=2.5+*+110%25&pbx=1&oq=2.5+*+110%25&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=10815l20585l2l20941l17l10l7l0l0l0l232l1741l0.8.2l15l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=5e19bd36fecbf965
Thats providing the scale is from 2.5 to 2.75 but yeah...
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Yeah, still only gives me figures around the 200bhp mark. I must be doing something wrong :(
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What was the stock maf in size, if it's 2" then the equation changes and whats the size off the new maf?
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2.75" ID is the new MAF with 3" outer diameter.
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Whats stock?
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Stock MAF is 62mm ID and 95mm length.
BUT
the Vr6 MAF is also a bit longer.
Guess you can work out the volume and get a precise figure that way?
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Stock MAF is 62mm ID and 95mm length.
BUT
the Vr6 MAF is also a bit longer.
Guess you can work out the volume and get a precise figure that way?
Its only the ID you work from, I think its around 28-30% increase.
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Are you still running the MCB? or N75?
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N75 in that log Nick. MBC was jerking all the time!
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Ignore, I scaled the diameter only, so you can tell me to take my GCSE's
Just used: πr²
2.5 (63.5mm)" = 4.90
2.75 (69.85mm) = 5.94
A scale off 1.21 or *121% try that :wink:
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N75 in that log Nick. MBC was jerking all the time!
Need to run it Parallel with the N75, its boosting too hard just with the N75, you need to clip it where I left it as its setup for that amount of load, not the load the N75 was giving due to your boost gauge. :wink:
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k30/tufftybloke/Random/Car/S3/Build/mbc_parallel.jpg)
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Will get it plumbed in like that tomorrow and do some more logging! :)
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I know I shouldn't go by what my gauge says but it's only saying 16psi spike, still pulls like a train though. Can't see that stressing it too much lol
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Ignore, I scaled the diameter only, so you can tell me to take my GCSE's
Just used: πr²
2.5 (63.5mm)" = 4.90
2.75 (69.85mm) = 5.94
A scale off 1.21 or *121% try that :wink:
Think we need area. It would be ok if the lengths were the same, but VR6 is longer.
I have:
Stock maf:
62mm width (ID)
96mm length
VR6 MAF:
76mm width (ID)
130mm length
That any help?
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also I might plumb in my proper calibrated vac/pressure gauge I have at work and see what the proper boost figures are, just hope it has the range I need as I only really use it for vacuum, never tried it with pressure :undecided:
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hay nick desprately been trying to get hold of you all week can you give me a ring mate i emailed you to my numbers in the email cheers mate
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Ignore, I scaled the diameter only, so you can tell me to take my GCSE's
Just used: πr²
2.5 (63.5mm)" = 4.90
2.75 (69.85mm) = 5.94
A scale off 1.21 or *121% try that :wink:
Think we need area. It would be ok if the lengths were the same, but VR6 is longer.
I have:
Stock maf:
62mm width (ID)
96mm length
VR6 MAF:
76mm width (ID)
103mm length
That any help?
In that case:
Just used: πr²
62mm = 3019
70mm = 3848
76mm = 4536 (you sure, this seems to huge as ID)
A scale of around 1.28 or *128% using 62mm and 70mm which is what nick was saying :afro:
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its actually 70mm, I was measuring the square filter end which goes into airbox. (that side is slightly bigger.
so the VR6 MAF is 28% larger. :)
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This is from a page I was reading when looking in to maf v injector flow rate.
"Stock 2.5" MAF = about 2.4" at the sensor, radius = 1.2"
New 3" MAF = about 2.8" at the sensor, radius = 1.4"
So, the area increase is:
[1.4*1.4] / [1.2*1.2]
1.96 / 1.44 = 1.36
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its actually 70mm, I was measuring the square filter end which goes into airbox. (that side is slightly bigger.
so the VR6 MAF is 28% larger. :)
I think when I worked it out it came to 28%.
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I just worked it out using 62mm and 70mm and I got 28% :nerd:
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Well working on a 28% increase we get
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/mafcorrected.jpg)
Suprised suprise....near enough exactly what the dyno says!
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so for the people not so talented with equations.
3" maf with suited injectors = more power than vr6 maf with suited injectors?
3" maf = vr6 maf :laugh:
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
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In the map software the peak stock maf flow 0-5v scale works out at 673kghr which works out at 186.9444gs or around 240bhp on a dyno reading.
The bigger maf is used to rescale the whole map to allow for a greater scope for performance, at the same time is the correct sized injectors are used to match the maf % gain then global constant for injection on tiime vs air flow will be correct, which makes the mapping easy by just rescaling the the load axis on the timing maps. It only on the AGU we need to work this way.
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
+1 Bang on again. :wink:
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
+1 Bang on again. :wink:
Care to take me on as an apprentice :grin: :grin: :grin: Honestly I'll sell the house and the misses and move up northish, any chance of a reply to the earlier message :tongue:
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
+1 Bang on again. :wink:
Care to take me on as an apprentice :grin: :grin: :grin: Honestly I'll sell the house and the misses and move up northish, any chance of a reply to the earlier message :tongue:
I would love to, maybe when we get the bigger workshop sorted, as we have two rolling road on site so room for another tuner.
You remind me of me in my early days being so keen.
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Only 22, so still a lot to learn, keep me in mind for that future idea though :laugh:
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I'll be the r-tech 'fan' boy lol.
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Only 22, so still a lot to learn, keep me in mind for that future idea though :laugh:
You need to spend a fews day up here for a taster? have a play with mapping methods on your own car and take part in custom maps on customers cars ect..
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Only 22, so still a lot to learn, keep me in mind for that future idea though :laugh:
You need to spend a fews day up here for a taster? have a play with mapping methods on your own car and take part in custom maps on customers cars ect..
Would love this!!!
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
+1 Bang on again. :wink:
Care to take me on as an apprentice :grin: :grin: :grin: Honestly I'll sell the house and the misses and move up northish, any chance of a reply to the earlier message :tongue:
I would love to, maybe when we get the bigger workshop sorted, as we have two rolling road on site so room for another tuner.
You remind me of me in my early days being so keen.
nick not sure if you seen my other post earlier any chance you can get back to me soon as your free need some advise on boost problem and few other things i put it all in an email for you mate with my number
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Only 22, so still a lot to learn, keep me in mind for that future idea though :laugh:
You need to spend a fews day up here for a taster? have a play with mapping methods on your own car and take part in custom maps on customers cars ect..
I'll have to organize a holiday up there with you guys, would be good fun to learn, all well and good reading up on it etc, but with no rolling road its not something that can be put in practice.
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
+1 Bang on again. :wink:
Care to take me on as an apprentice :grin: :grin: :grin: Honestly I'll sell the house and the misses and move up northish, any chance of a reply to the earlier message :tongue:
I would love to, maybe when we get the bigger workshop sorted, as we have two rolling road on site so room for another tuner.
You remind me of me in my early days being so keen.
nick not sure if you seen my other post earlier any chance you can get back to me soon as your free need some advise on boost problem and few other things i put it all in an email for you mate with my number
Hello, Jim put your number down in a list of many which I need call back, If you cannot get hold of me during the day Jim or Ben can help you out just as much as I can?
Nick
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3" ID maf won't gain anything over a 2.75" ID in this scenario, only reason you upgrade the MAF size is to allow more airmass (g/sec) to be considered. Once the MAF is maxed out in its limit, you upgrade the size to consider more airmass into the equation.
+1 Bang on again. :wink:
Care to take me on as an apprentice :grin: :grin: :grin: Honestly I'll sell the house and the misses and move up northish, any chance of a reply to the earlier message :tongue:
I would love to, maybe when we get the bigger workshop sorted, as we have two rolling road on site so room for another tuner.
You remind me of me in my early days being so keen.
nick not sure if you seen my other post earlier any chance you can get back to me soon as your free need some advise on boost problem and few other things i put it all in an email for you mate with my number
Hello, Jim put your number down in a list of many which I need call back, If you cannot get hold of me during the day Jim or Ben can help you out just as much as I can?
Nick
i think i spoke to jim beginning of the week he said with out seeing the car he couldnt say much and to try the n75 valve i spoke to ben about my problem and asked about chris's mapping ben said he was busy so didnt really see what went on with chris's car and i need to speak to you about it. no problem if you got a list of pep to ring back i didnt realise, ll wait till you got 5 mins to get back to me, ill try my mates n75 see if it makes a differance in the mean time
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Anything I can help you with about my car at all?
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Anything I can help you with about my car at all?
yer prob chris on your side of things what im trying to find out is if i could make your sort of figures if i got the same bits, how much your fuel pump was and what cost will it be to retune the map and if nick would use your mapping or use your mapping and ajust it to suite the the car etc
then my side of it is what i was saying to you over on ukmkivs about my car under boosting after fitting the THS cooler for 20-22psi down to 16psi seem a big drop to me plus the car feels flat, i used the boost tester i bought ran 25psi through it and it holds 25psi with no leaks. when i first tested it i had a vac leak right on the fuel reg and the other was on the inlet pipe fixed them and still only 16psi and feeling flat, no faults with vagcom either,
just dont want to through money at it stabbing in the dark
how many boxes do you have in your exhaust? scratch that rember it being on your list you put up on mk4s to late to think straight hehe :shocked:
im thinking of putting in a centre box on mine because my system is to loud now its decreate style read loud and droning so wanna put in a centre box but im worried of it affecting the performance of the car at the mo its a 2.5" stainless with just the back box
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Im sure if you keep nick at the team happy, they will have a look at your map for you. Ive no idea how Nick would map yours as we tried using Jays map for AGU yellow injectors but found that the immobiliser was stopping us from using that, so we had to work off my map I had done last time.
Wouldnt worry about what psi peaks your are getting. MY boot gauge actually under-reads so was only seeing about 21-22psi but in reality it was 25 (or 1.6bar) peak boost and trailing off.
What backbox have you got in it? I have a remus one and no other pipes in exhaust (2.5" straight back to the backbox) and its not that bad at all, really quiet for what it is.
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Im sure if you keep nick at the team happy, they will have a look at your map for you. Ive no idea how Nick would map yours as we tried using Jays map for AGU yellow injectors but found that the immobiliser was stopping us from using that, so we had to work off my map I had done last time.
Wouldnt worry about what psi peaks your are getting. MY boot gauge actually under-reads so was only seeing about 21-22psi but in reality it was 25 (or 1.6bar) peak boost and trailing off.
What backbox have you got in it? I have a remus one and no other pipes in exhaust (2.5" straight back to the backbox) and its not that bad at all, really quiet for what it is.
nick will prob need to ajust my map accordingly then i would think then, is strange the big drop in psi from one cooler to the other i was only expecting a marginal drop.
my box is a custom one i got a full custom 2.5" cat back with one box which i had the tail pipe changed to a turn down as i bought an r line bumper since then the sound level has gone way up and its bouceing off the floor and ino the car
i was wonding if it maybe the mapping i got on there now that is making low boost levels as its a gentic stage 2 map nick come down and put on it for my back in aug '99
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Capped the boost in parallel today and logged. Only got once as its now started to tap when running from the back of the engine. Not sure what it is yet as its too hot back there, but hopefully its something silly and not valve related/internals. no smoke or oil and even boosts fine and no dodgy idle or missing.
Probably popped the manifold/head gasket which was only put on couple weeks ago.
Anyhow, less of the boring stuff...heres the log i got.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/carsey2006/logCappedBoost.jpg)
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sh!t keep us posted mate...
however this will be just the fuel the clubgti boys will be looking for lol
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Sounds a lot like a sticky lifter in all fairness. Nothing at all to do with mapping or anything like that, in any way. Engine flush will go through tomorrow and see what happens. Worst case scenario is the lifters get replaced.
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Whoops. Sounds healthy. :rolleyes:
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And you wanted to run more power...lol
It sounds like a lifter to me, not much else it can be. If you need on left me know I have a few sets knocking around.
And the run above it seem like the car jumped in to limp mode at 4600rpm, due to under load.
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It did feel a bit hesitant at one point.
Ill have to get these lifters sorted out before doing anything else, although still drivable, im sure its not the best to be giving it full beans.
Ive found a method to check the play in the lifters/tappets in ELSA and shouldnt be play in them when cams are up so will check that.
Can you re-use tappets/lifters from a seperate head?
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What would cause it to drop into limp mode?
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the knock regulator reading on cylinder 4 at a guess?
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What would cause it to drop into limp mode?
Any codes?
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00575 - intake manifold pressure 11-10 Control limit not reached - intermittant
I did have it running without some boost pipes not connected up when i found out about the lifter so could be related to that?
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00575 - intake manifold pressure 11-10 Control limit not reached - intermittant
I did have it running without some boost pipes not connected up when i found out about the lifter so could be related to that?
Not its fine its just you capped the boost tool low, its not with in range of the requested load, set it where I set it on wednesday and it will be fine?
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Havent moved the boost controller. I took it out and its now back in. No adjustment was made.
Might just be a once off....still has a very very occasional misfire too.
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Havent moved the boost controller. I took it out and its now back in. No adjustment was made.
Might just be a once off....still has a very very occasional misfire too.
But its parallel now.. :wink:
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Yep, as per diagram before.
Only done 1 run though, which was above...then my lifter took a lesson in tap dancing.
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Massive thanks to Nick and the guys at R-Tech!
They gave my totally standard Mk5 GTi a Spec 1 Map on Saturday morning. I originally asked for a custom map, but Nick was very honest, and after a couple of dyno runs said I would be better off to save the extra £50 as the car was running sweet on the base spec 1 Map!
The car is unbelievable now, its like having a new car again :evil:
I'm well chuffed with results, but can't help flooring it everywhere! Needless to say I will be back for any further requirements.
Stock - 209bhp, 215 lb/ft;
Spec 1 - 246bhp, 289 lb/ft :laugh:
(http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee343/synchron1ze/IMG_0360-1.jpg)
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(http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee343/synchron1ze/IMG_0360-1.jpg)
Whats the dip and smooth spike at 6500RPM? :huh:
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IMHO it looks like a DSG gear change :rolleyes:
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IMHO it looks like a DSG gear change :rolleyes:
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Adam, Its the engine pulling the ignition back ready for the DSG to slip in to the next year, as far as I know the transition between gear changes is done without boost reduction, only timing reduction to reduce engine load to allow a smooth shift.....ie full throttle gear change. :smiley: I have not do much logging with shift points and how the act on the engine mapping.
Only way to get rid of the dip is to remap the DSG ecu and get rid of the auto shift point in manual mode, which then will rev to the engines rev limiter over 7000rpm.
Here is what they look like with the DSG software upgrade.
Revo Stage1 DSG code on a Stage1 ED30.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/E30REVODSGMAP.jpg)
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Sorry guys for not doing any recent updates, I have just been far to busy and not enough hours in a day. :wink:
Nice project just before xmas R-Tech Custom Stage 3 remap session.
Seat Ibiza AYP 1.8T 20v
Turbo Back exhaust
FMIC
3" TIP
440cc green Bosch injectors
S3 210 MAF
4 branch manifold
T304E stage1 .48 Turbo
Stock rods and Pistons
Final Numbers limited by stock rods made 303bhp @1bar boost set up on the stock N75 valve.
The car feels awesom to drive, relentless power which is very strong and linar and not too laggy, off boost it feels like a very healthy 2.0 16v engine, but on boost its grin grin grin... :grin: I think this is the way some of you guys should be going. The turbo only cost the guy £370 with manifold.. :wink:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/ibizat304e2.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/ibizat304e.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/ibizat304map.jpg)
video
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Over the last 6 months I have been getting a huge amount of work from the Seat cupra owners. In recent years the seatcupra.net website has been very bias and non paid sponsors tend to get there names censored ***** but thanks to facebook the Seat owners can have a bit of r-tech magic... :grin:
This car below is one I have been putting off tuning for well over 18month now due to the fact I have never been happy with the cars hardware and condition. Paul the owner has spent ther last 18month getting the car to how I wanted it and ready for his new gen EFR 450bhp turbo in the summer.
Spec LCR BAM 1.8T 20v
k04 Hybrid turbo CR V2 (which works and flows well unlike the CR V1)
Stock Exhaust Manifold
Turbo back exhaust
Uprated rods and pistons
EV14 440cc Green Bosch injectors
FMIC
Badger 5 V1 Tip
Limiting factor was always going to be EGTs due to the stock manifold and collector, these are easy engine to map safe as the ECU runs a live real time EGT probe unlike the AUM, AUQ and AGUs. Tune to higher EGTs find the limit and work under it.
Final numbers 297bhp 288lbft but the power band was amazing, I have never felt a car so strong from 3200rpm upto 7500rpm. The car is fitted with a LDS and still wheel spins and torque steers in 4th gear in the damp.
Due to the fact we could not tuner the car to full power because of the manifold, I spent an hour making this the second LCR in the UK to have tractive launch control, WOT shift, brake and boost, linear throttle map, and thr unique R-Tech rapid lift of mapping and multi cut rpm limiter... :grin:
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/paulpurphy.jpg)
Again how a good MAF is show the same power readings as our dyno, and backed up by the liquid gauge readings.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/paulmurphy.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/paulmurphycar.jpg)
Jim trying to get the hang of the rapid lift off mapping..
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/th_paulflames.jpg) (http://s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/?action=view¤t=paulflames.mp4)
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Seat Leon Cupra R 210bhp AMK Stage1 R-Tech Custom remap
Forge 007P
Peformance Filter
V-Power Fuel
Healthy Actuator and PCV system.
After a lot of reading on the forums and 1.8T tuninig the owner of this LCR thought his best tuning option would be a spec1 R-Tech custom remap for his pride and joy.
As usual like all good running 20v turbo engines this LCR produced stock power on the dyno 210bhp with MAF logs to match.
After around 2.5 hours on the dyno and many map changes the LCR kicked out a healthy 258bhp and a huge grin for the owner.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/leonamkspec1custom.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/seatleonamkcustomsp1.jpg)
And again not just dyno numbers to back up the power output.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/STAGE1AMKremap.jpg)
This is one of thr BEST running AMK engines I have worked on it a long time....
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Good work, now your tempting me with the t304e again :sad: Thats a lot of power at 1bar... You found the threshold of roughly what stock internals are like if that reliable power at nearly 300bhp I will have to sell the misses and get that setup.
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I keep saying it! the weak point to making good power from a K03s is the actuator, the are many member here and on clubgti who doubt it and say 240bhp is not going to happen.
Over the last 2 months I have produced around 12 K03s turbos maps to 240+bhp all with upgrade actuators, the best one being a Seat Leon AUQ 65k with brand new turbo which peak at 249bhp and then turned down to 242bhp 277lbft 21.5psi. A week later the customer took his Leon to his local tuners rolling road where it produced 252bhp... :wink:
Below are numbers and graphs from a customers Golf GTI K03s AUM running an R-Tech stage2 custom remap. On the Thursday I carried out the custom remap and found it hard to make the 217hp number, I knew with the load I was requesting I should have been getting around 230-240bhp. At 217bhp even with N75 mapping trick to allow 100% duty the turbo could not produce more than 173gs via the maf. I sent the customer way and told him to get a Forge actuator fitted with the yellow spring and 3 turns of pre-load.....
Saturday comes and the results say it all. (no map tweak as this point just straight back to back power runs stock 80k actuator vs Forge Actuator setup with yellow spring.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/forgeactuatorbacktoback.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/forgeactuatorbacktoback2.jpg)
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Good work, now your tempting me with the t304e again :sad: Thats a lot of power at 1bar... You found the threshold of roughly what stock internals are like if that reliable power at nearly 300bhp I will have to sell the misses and get that setup.
I aim for 300bhp/320lbft on stock rods and pistons, I once took an AGU upto 350lbft on stock rods and it still going strong to day. but on the other hand I had an BAM engine stage2 284bhp 320lbft snap a rod in half with 22psi. Luck of the draw IMO.
The smaller T304E is awesome dude not too laggy like the stage3 trim T304e.
IE are doing H-beam rods for £259... :evil:
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A few Randoms..
Audi S3 2.0TFSI Revo Stage2+ Custom SPS Map setup 360lbft 340lbft
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/s3365lbft.jpg)
Making room for my 3.5" straight exhaust system with quad tail pipes.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/mycarboot.jpg)
At last I have managed to make myself a clean working area.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/newoffice.jpg)
A bunch of 7ft tall 5ft wide Polish doormen in for remaps on there Mercs and Beemers.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/polishdoormenforremaps.jpg)
Merc 2.7CDI remap 40bhp 45lbft... drift fun!!!!
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/merc27cdi.jpg)
Polo 130PD Hybrid Turbo and R-Tech 214bhp remap (used the dyno next door to I didnt dirty my workshop..lol)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/214bhppolotdihybrid.jpg)
An R-Tech'd Lower Lupo
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Play time!!!
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BMW 520D DFP removal and Remap 33bhp+
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/520dmapanddpf.jpg)
A bit of a Ford owners day..lol
Mondeo & Kuga TDCI remap
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/fordtuning.jpg)
Bloody Ford new panic light which power up during mapping....The Volvo come up with a warning sign saying "Take Break" when writing a map..lol
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/fordpanick.jpg)
Forgot...
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/stage1custom.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/seatleon.jpg)
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I'd be happy with 300ish and 310lb'ish, think I will have to slowly aim for this setup over the year collecting parts at a time
What ID of MAF do I need to keep up with that amount of air flow and roughly and what CC injectors?
Also regarding downpipe will stock one just bolt on or is some work needed for the t3/4
The k03 is a beast, I remember backing you up with the european tuner dyno runs, you really need to clamp it shut to squeeze its love juices out to the max.
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1998 Audi AEB 1.8T 20v Stage 1.5 Custom remap
Induction Kit
Forge 007P
Decat System
Custom R-Tech Chip Tune Remap
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/aeb199bhp.jpg)
Customer feedback from Audisport.net http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a4-s4-forum-b5-chassis/142887-rtech-mapped.html
Rtech mapped! Well what can i say. The guys and the service are fantastic. The knowledge they have is amazing. Everything you read about Rtech on the new about how good they are is 100% true!
one downside i had was i had to raise the front of the car to get on the rollers but i knew i`d have to from others posts. The guys got the car in and had a check over to make sure everything looked good. Strapped it down for the standard run. Came out at 148bhp so wasnt bad for a 13yr old car on 114k miles i guess!
They set about installing the chip and about 45minutes later the car was fired up and the first few runs began. Immediately i could tell the gains, The car squatted more under acceleration, the exhaust was a bit raspier and the tish from the airfilter was much louder lol.
Few runs and i was called over. Was shown the vag-com logs and couldnt believe the results! He showed me various other logs and talked me through what everything meant which was nice! Printer was down so i got everything on a CD so thats cool!
So the figures...which i couldnt believe myself to start off with as i expected the tiny k03 to flow about 180/200ft-lbs.
It made....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/beastyjay/audia4tunnedrtech.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/beastyjay/audia4bothrtech.jpg)
199.3bhp at fly and 221ft-lbs!!! The car is completely transformed, its so fast compared to what it was as standard.
So i`ve gained 51bhp and 77ft-lbs! Pretty epic for £275 i`d say!
Anyone needs mapping go to Rtech!! oh and the 4wd dyno is still off site round the corner.
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I'd be happy with 300ish and 310lb'ish, think I will have to slowly aim for this setup over the year collecting parts at a time
What ID of MAF do I need to keep up with that amount of air flow and roughly and what CC injectors?
Also regarding downpipe will stock one just bolt on or is some work needed for the t3/4
The k03 is a beast, I remember backing you up with the european tuner dyno runs, you really need to clamp it shut to squeeze its love juices out to the max.
The 440cc Bosch Greens and a VR6 MAF plus fuel pump (225lph in tank pumps from ebay £40 but the swirl pot needs modding)
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hope my car is ok :rolleyes:
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hope my car is ok :rolleyes:
withdrawal symptoms ?
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lol yep been there 2 months :grin: think the mk4 is ready to blow up :rolleyes:
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lol yep been there 2 months :grin: think the mk4 is ready to blow up :rolleyes:
bloody hell whens it coming home ??
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god knows, all my mates keep saying, ur go up there and it will be on bricks :grin:
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lol yep been there 2 months :grin: think the mk4 is ready to blow up :rolleyes:
bloody hell whens it coming home ??
Thought it was my car now!!!! lol Waiting for parts nightmare, should be finished very soon and by the sound of it he wants 380bhp.
@tech1889
I can do TDI DSG maps if needed... :wink:
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Nick im coming down next month but the TDI is no more you will love my new car :wink:
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Nick im coming down next month but the TDI is no more you will love my new car :wink:
Mazda MX5???
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Nope Toyota starlet glanza turbo :wink:
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Nope Toyota starlet glanza turbo :wink:
Always fancied one of those, have never managed to bring myself to buy one lol.
What's it like?
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my brother had the previous version to the Glanza, it was a bloody quick little car
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Nope Toyota starlet glanza turbo :wink:
with a tdo4 i hope :grin:
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With factory LSD its good fun it handles the same as my mates ford racing puma :smiley: all I need is new tyres lol
Td04 is overrated my mate has a gt turbo with a hybrid that's much better and only £425 new compared to td04, manifold, downpipe, new air filter relocation pipe etc.. Plus hybrid spools instantly :laugh:
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With factory LSD its good fun it handles the same as my mates ford racing puma :smiley: all I need is new tyres lol
Td04 is overrated my mate has a gt turbo with a hybrid that's much better and only £425 new compared to td04, manifold, downpipe, new air filter relocation pipe etc.. Plus hybrid spools instantly :laugh:
be a quick little fooker then had a go in a mates old 1 few year back :smiley:
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They are just fun but the most impractical car I've ever owned lol
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They are just fun but the most impractical car I've ever owned lol
know what u mean my dog couldnt fit in the boot :grin:
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They are just fun but the most impractical car I've ever owned lol
know what u mean my dog couldnt fit in the boot :grin:
Yep and loud and uncomfortable and highly modified so need loads of maintenance.. Also need a oil service every 5k lol
Nick you can clear this thread of my crap if you want :smiley:
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hi r tech i have a standard 1.8turbo aum i had it dyno'd and at the hubs the reading i got was 112.2 bhp is this right for a stock car with jus open air filter ? i have recently put 007p dv new n75 valve new maf sensor plugs but is this right for a stock 1.8t i know power loss from engine to wheel but is thisd alot ? cheers connor
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112bhp? Where's the other 38bhp gone? :shocked:
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112bhp? Where's the other 38bhp gone? :shocked:
think its wheel horse power
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The way forward for AGU tuning 330+bhp on tap.... :grin:
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/a3-s3-forum-8l-chassis/109831-prawns-a3-track-car-nurburgring-toy.html
K04 Hyrbid CR V2 Turbo
Bosch 440cc Injectors/2.7" MAF
Badger5 v2 3"/80mm TIP
2.5" FMIC and Pipework
Relentless manifold, downpipe and decat system
LCR fuel pump.
R-Tech stage3 custom dyno remapping
Stock rods and pistons!!
The customer did not want huge power / torque willy waving numbers, instead he asked for a smooth progressive power band which would not induce hectic wheel spin or kick of power. The car is a full blown track day car roll cage, diff, 28mm killer ARB, bucket seat ect.
Did I mention its got 211,000k on the clocks.... :laugh:
During testing and map setup we pushed the turbo to 20psi held across the whole band with the n75 duty still very low at around 60%. With very little effort the poor old AGU pushed out an awesome 328bhp/290lbft.
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409375_3398110671443_1230030267_4374947_2045232652_n.jpg)
But due the the stock rods and the customer linear power request we detuned the map to 290bhp 260lbft with around 17psi making peak power.
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430591_3398128031877_1230030267_4374981_1227128479_n.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd408/prawn16/a3hybridrtech.jpg)
I have now gone on to order the same manifold for my second mk4 which is now going k04-023 and being stripped for the track
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looks good mate! another mk4! ( Ditch the gokart! go real racing :evil:)
can i interest you in a nice mk5 lol
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looks good mate! another mk4! ( Ditch the gokart! go real racing :evil:)
can i interest you in a nice mk5 lol
Ummm no!! lol
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These Relentless manifolds are looking mighty tempting...
I'm still waiting for one to crack though!
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How would you compare the t3/4 and the k04 hybrid to each other pro and con wise?
Also do the 4.2 v8 Audi na engines map well the 99 330'ish engines whilst on topic.
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How would you compare the t3/4 and the k04 hybrid to each other pro and con wise?
Also do the 4.2 v8 Audi na engines map well the 99 330'ish engines whilst on topic.
T304e v Hybrid ko4 = night and day both have pros and cons.
For pure grunt, buzz and peak power and budget the T3 wins, 350bhp with no effort and can go on to 400+bhp
For a broad torque band, fast spooling, close to oem fitting Ko4 hyrbid wins but not cheap and needs to be pushed hot and hard to make 330+bhp
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Might make a T3/04e mk2 1.8T after I get another mk4 built up. :)
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Its the way I am going this year with the aim of 500bhp from my car and taking quickest 1/4mile time in class and Santa Pod and GTI inters this year.. :cool:
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Nick have been out recently with Sam in the white polo GTI you have mapped.. His car is awesome does over 160mph and is so planted i love it.. well done :smiley:
When you start mapping jap i will book in with you :wink:
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Thought I'd update this with my results from another RR.
A few points worth nothing here: -
1) The car was run in 2wd with the Haldex fuse pulled out.
2) The run was a 4th gear Inertia run and Vag-Com verified that the engine didn't even reach full load.
3) MAF readings were 220g/s which equates to about 275bhp capabilities.
4) 2 weeks after this RR day my OE fuel pump failed, this may explain the slightly lean issue when coming on boost.
(http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv309/YohanVRS/Project%20Bora%20S3/RollingRoadRun18-02-12.jpg)
(http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv309/YohanVRS/Project%20Bora%20S3/RollingRoadRun218-02-12.jpg)
And here is the original from R-Tech's rollers.
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Yea Don't think that should be running stoich at full boost. :undecided: I'd expect it to start dropping before you get to 3k.
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Yea Don't think that should be running stoich at full boost. :undecided: I'd expect it to start dropping before you get to 3k.
Well the ancient (170,000 miles) V6 4motion 3BAR fuel pump has today been replaced with a relatively new (56,000 miles) Audi TT 4BAR pump.
Once I've got everything on the car stablised, I might have to pop in to R-Tech for a day to get the map checked/tweaked as required :laugh:
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Yea Don't think that should be running stoich at full boost. :undecided: I'd expect it to start dropping before you get to 3k.
In the real world it will be running 0.89 across the midrnage, the issue above is the ramp rate of the test it only laster for a few seconds in 4th gear. log on the road or a braked dyno and it will be correct. This was checked out thet day after the power run.
Nicjk
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Yea Don't think that should be running stoich at full boost. :undecided: I'd expect it to start dropping before you get to 3k.
In the real world it will be running 0.89 across the midrnage, the issue above is the ramp rate of the test it only laster for a few seconds in 4th gear. log on the road or a braked dyno and it will be correct. This was checked out thet day after the power run.
Nicjk
Correct
It's much much happier with it's new fuel pump fitted!
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Nick, got any graphs with a T304e fitted?
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Nick, got any graphs with a T304e fitted?
AGU Stock rods at 17PSI. :grin:
(http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu260/r-tech-rr-graphs/AGU-T3-TURBO.jpg?1288614037)
Same car & turbo with rods and pistions and 440c injectors maxed out at around 27psi managed a 12.3s 1/4 at Santa pod.
Now running maxed out on currnet wastegate spring with 630cc injectors at 425bhp then a shot of NOS to take it upto just under 500bhp with the aim to crack 11s
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/agu-t304.jpg)
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That looks naughty.
I want something that will be moderately quick without having to be at the end of the rev range before the turbo being on full song. is that a .50 A/R ratio?
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What manifold was that running? I might run the stainless ones off ebay and maybe modify it to make it top mounted. hmmm
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What manifold was that running? I might run the stainless ones off ebay and maybe modify it to make it top mounted. hmmm
Custom DIY built from my idea....lol
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_1900.jpg)
A few pages back there are 3 videos of it on the dyno
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Oh i cant make anything like that. no where near those skills! GIve me bolt together parts lol
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that car is awesome, looks nothing from the outside either, proper sleeper :cool:
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Thought longer runners helped with torque, also toyosports used to do a t304 kit with manifold nice and cheap with other parts such as the screamer pipe, oil pipes etc, not much fabrication needed, except basically making your own inlet feed (TIP) with a 3" maf in place. Then adapt other side of the compressor to plumb into the current pipework that is heading to TB/IC. Could easily be done for a £500 budget, but you also need, pump, injectors and down pipe adapted to fit ontop :wink:
http://www.toyosports.co.uk/vw-golf-mk4-18-20v-t3-turbo-exhaust-manifold-97-02-9899-692-p.asp
http://www.toyosports.co.uk/t3-t4-turbocharger-turbo-ar-50-27psi-14699-979-p.asp
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I guess .AR 50 is what everyone uses? just seems small thats all.
We have a small stainless manifold, I want to chop it off at the flange and weld a right angle pipe on to make it top mount, bbut dunno if it will work or not before I chop up £80 of manifold lol.
Downpipe it the biggest issue.
Tbh, I might just make it underslung as then it will marra up to the OEM piping pretty easy. allowing the standard route and THS piping to be used :D
Just need to be very careful with the heat of them i think.
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I guess .AR 50 is what everyone uses? just seems small thats all.
We have a small stainless manifold, I want to chop it off at the flange and weld a right angle pipe on to make it top mount, bbut dunno if it will work or not before I chop up £80 of manifold lol.
Downpipe it the biggest issue.
Tbh, I might just make it underslung as then it will marra up to the OEM piping pretty easy. allowing the standard route and THS piping to be used :D
Just need to be very careful with the heat of them i think.
Well toysports use to do a cracking kit, I don't know why they stopped :angry:
Came with mani, turbo, oil pipes and adapters, oil cooler, oil filter relocation, some spare pipes for fabrication etc... not got a monkey why they stopped it and it was for a really good price.
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Its just the manifold im worried about tbh. is it going to be good enough for the power I want. I dont particulary want to push it as the heads start to go into melt down around 400bhp, but with water meth it might help with the cooling. might have to have a sensible map with smooth power and a aggressive weekend map that pushes it a little bit. Depends what the limits of the turbo are with WMI.
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longer manifold runners helps with low down torque and spooling.
Nick
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Got chance of a T3/T4 turbo which is externally wastegated with a cast manifold. Theres a external wastegate there and loads of oil pipes and silicone and alloy bends etc. After £250 for the whole kit which ill get if its any good .
Any pointers/information about the kit?
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longer manifold runners helps with low down torque and spooling.
Nick
o right!
in my mind itd make it slow to pick up.... lol but what do i know.
so the only reason people have short manifolds is for room?
something deffinately to think about if i get a landy td4 :evil:
Not that simple :P Read up on engine pulses and manifold variations, ie the effects of a 4-2-1 and a 4-1 manifold.
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think about the reasons behind a scooby sounding like it does :wink:
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Rtech,
I am considering removing the induction kit as the noise is beginning to annoy me.
What will be the results of doing this on my map?
Powerloss? Or something more serious?
Ps. Had my lambda sensor moved as you recommended to see if cell caused my emissions would go away but it hasbt so might be having a trip down to you at some point.
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My write up from another thread (car is a Mk5 GTI 56 - map was a stage 1 custom spec) - thought I'd put here for future poster ease of reference.
Now I'm a cautious person and even more cautious when it comes to my cars - never had a remap before as a result - so to say I was slightly apprehensive about anyone, but a franchised dealer, touching my GTI would be an understatement!
However after hearing all the great reviews about R-Tech I decided I would just give it a go - suffice to say the service from R-Tech highlights why they get such amazing reviews from every quarter (which in the age of the internet is an amazing achievement).
The workshop / waiting area are kept to a bare minimum to ensure overheads are kept low to offer the most competitive pricing - however the quality of customer service and remap quality is nothing short of pure excellence.
Nick, Ben and Ting-Tong () are a great bunch of guys - very welcoming and took time out to explain what was happening during the entire process and allowed me to get under the car so they could point stuff out (I'm a mechanical novice!).
I was very impressed by the time 3 hours was up and my car was ready for a test drive.
As I fired the car up and turned it around I was not sure what to expect - I kept on remembering the previous customer coming back really chuffed after his test drive - but somehow after owning a variety of cars from 996 to M3s I thought I wouldn't be blown away....I guess I thought the car might *just* feel a tad faster.
Now the weather has been appalling today and a lot of standing water on the road made driving conditions on full beans difficult - but bloody hell even in those conditions the GTI is like a little rocket as the accelerator goes down!!!
I played a bit on the way home (where conditions allowed) and the pull through in each gear was amazing and the responsiveness in getting the power down was fantastic - 3rd gear is just a dream.
The big concern I had was that the power difference wouldn't be noticeable as my belief was that it wouldn't really be usable (tyres would wheel spin etc) - however I was so wrong and it so straight-forward to get the power down after getting refamiliar with the car...even in the wet conditions, by the time I got home I could call the power up at will without wheel spinning!!!
I have fallen back in love with the GTI and I've typed out the above very quickly as I do need to have some tea (!), but I hope it captures the essence of my experience and helps other posters who are deciding whether to go for a remap and if so who to use.
My final words would be - if you've got a GTI get it remapped, if you want a proper custom remap go to R-TECH !!!
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AUQ 1.8T engine during a live emulation mapping session setting up the maps to work with methonal injection.. The picture is the result of the WOT no lift shift kicking in at 7300rpm@350bhp
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/270630_223999764395872_1915871638_n.jpg)
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We have been "stupid" busy over the last 6 months, its just gone made with live mapping projects for hybrid and big turbo 1.8Ts.. Fingers cross it will slow down for the winter months..
I will try and update this section a bit more, most of the latest jobs are on our (my Niki R-Tech Gower ) facebook page.
Going mad with BMW Derv tuning, we used to do 9-10 of these per week before we put all our eggs in to VAG
R-Tech BMW Remap
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/bmw2misch.jpg)
R-Tech BMW Remap
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(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/bmwmisch.jpg)
BMW ecu remapping session
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/bmw3misc.jpg)
back to VAG
ED30 high torque stage1 map 360lbft 270bhp
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/ed30misch.jpg)
Mk5 GTI custom remap session
Leon leon 170PD DFP removal and custom remap 205bhp
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/mics170pdleondpfoff.jpg)
Jim ready for sooty hybris TDI live remap session
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/masktdituning.jpg)
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Seat Leon TFSI 2.0T DSG k03 custom stage 2 remap session and custom DSG code software
My best result to date.
Miltek turbo back decat system
S3 FMIC core (17bhp gains due to pressure drop)
Forge Twintake system
294bhp from stock k03 turbo 23psi peak
To get these numbers from stage 2 the S3 FMIC and decat is needed to give better engine VE to get the flow to its best.
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/leoncar.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/k03leontfsi394hpgraph.jpg)
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/k03leontfsi394hp.jpg)
NEXT
Seat Leon AMK 1.8T with TD05 turbo running low boost 19-20psi due to stock rods 318bhp, should run 350bhp with rods
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/tdo5estpic318bhp.jpg)
Seat Leon1.8T AUQ with DIY manifold/ downpipe and ebay T3 turbo 342bhp on WMI setup
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/bmwmisc2.jpg)
Stage1 generic T5 1.9TDI
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/t5vanmisc.jpg)
Pro shots from charity rr day
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/rrday2.jpg)
the end result of killing 2 cars on our charity rr day clio went band on NOS and Corsa burn out
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/rrday.jpg)
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Been VERY busy :cool:
Cant wait to get the Bora back upto you now :laugh:
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We need more updates Niki! :laugh:
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Great work, when's your next charity day?
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Great work, when's your next charity day?
Summer 2014 we should have a huge charity RR day.. a tad late on the reply lol sorry
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Not put mine and Billy's graphs up then! :grin: