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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: owthlitt on 23 March 2020, 13:42
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So hello all, I just wanted to put a post up in case people were interested what is happening with VW orders which should be going into build now...
This is for your interest as car lovers :smiley:
I put my order in about halfway through Jan to make the most of the 0% APR offer on the Golf GTI PP, even though the ordering for custom build were closed I managed to find an existing car and customise it. Happy days!
Build week for the car was week 12 (W/C 16th of March) and the car is apparently on the line waiting to go to the workshop as we speak. VW have reported that they're continuing to operate as normal in that factory and the dealership is waiting to hear from management whether they will continue to be operating in the short term.
Things are changing day to day of course. But I thought you may find it interesting what is happening with new GTI builds at the moment!
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Dealership Update: The dealership I've ordered through have just informed me that management have decided that they are closing for the foreseeable future at 5pm Today.
Ever changing scenery...
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Dealership Update: The dealership I've ordered through have just informed me that management have decided that they are closing for the foreseeable future at 5pm Today.
Ever changing scenery...
A friend who works at Porsche confirmed the factory was closing last Friday initially for 2 weeks and he thought the dealership he's at might close as well.
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I ordered a TCR on 4th January with bw12 and haven't had any updates about what's happening. Dealership still think it's being built but who knows now 🤷♂️. You try asking VW UK and they direct you back to the dealer. Piss poor customer service from VW UK but then that's the norm isn't it :grin:
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Off Golf Topic, but related...
We took delivery (delivered to home) of my girlfriends new Mini this morning. Truth be told we were half expecting a cancellation text/email, but when we received the confirmation message this morning that the driver was on route we were pleasantly relieved/surprised. The delivery driver (works for Mini) said that he had been told to expect all his scheduled deliveries (he deliveries to home and to dealers) to stop one day this week. He said that anyone expecting to collect a car is going to be told not to go to showrooms etc. He had 5 cars to deliver today and he'd come directly from Oxford's Mini plant where he said there are stockpiles of orders that will sit there until further notice.
I think it's fair to say this is probably going to be pretty standard working procedure across all brands as the days go by. If you've ordered and it's stopped production, think of it this way, it's not going to be as frustrating as it will be for those who have cars in the country and/or at dealers who can't get their hands on them.
:)
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Problem with VW is though they don't tell you anything at all :grin:
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Just got an email to say all JCT600 showrooms are temporary closing.
Think lock down is coming shortly...
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Just got an email to say all JCT600 showrooms are temporary closing.
Think lock down is coming shortly...
6 minutes after you said it :sad:
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Just got an email to say all JCT600 showrooms are temporary closing.
Think lock down is coming shortly...
Same email from Lookers.
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Job done. At least any uncertainty as has gone.
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Job done. At least any uncertainty as has gone.
not really, still don't know if a car has actually been built :grin: Granted it wouldn't be able to go anywhere even if it had so :grin: :grin:
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I could cope with knowing the car hadn’t been built so would be delayed. But if it was sat somewhere built and ready to go, but I couldn’t have it, I’d go crazy knowing it’s so close but just out of reach.
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Really frustrating :sad:
I feel for you guys stuck in Limbo
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I'm not too worries I'm disappointed it's a longer wait to jump into the seat of my new Golf!
Atleast I have a Fiesta ST that I can pop to the shop in for gathering any essentials....
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I'm not too worries I'm disappointed it's a longer wait to jump into the seat of my new Golf!
Atleast I have a Fiesta ST that I can pop to the shop in for gathering any essentials....
Did you not consider the new shape Fiesta ST?
Does it ride any better than the previous generation?
Someone in my workplace has taken delivery fairly recently of a 2019 Fiesta ST 3 door in silver. I see it in the car park every day and it looks really nice.
I’m sure it looks very nearly as long as my Golf!
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I'm not too worries I'm disappointed it's a longer wait to jump into the seat of my new Golf!
Atleast I have a Fiesta ST that I can pop to the shop in for gathering any essentials....
Did you not consider the new shape Fiesta ST?
Does it ride any better than the previous generation?
Someone in my workplace has taken delivery fairly recently of a 2019 Fiesta ST 3 door in silver. I see it in the car park every day and it looks really nice.
I’m sure it looks very nearly as long as my Golf!
I did indeed! My car selection boiled down to the Fiesta ST and the Golf GTI PP. The new Fiesta is again really great to drive and feels quicker than the previous generation (it also IS faster...). The ride is solid again but I quite like it for about 80% of my driving.
But all in all I wanted the refinement and nice little features you get from the Golf, hopefully I'll get to enjoy it by the time summer arrives!
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VW factories in Germany closed until at least 19th April.
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VW factories in Germany closed until at least 19th April.
This is the most I've had in terms of an update! Thank you :)
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Found it online as a headline but it's genuinely from VW in Germany 👍
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Volkswagen has admitted that its factory shutdown is costing €2 billion (£1.8bn) a week in fixed costs running 124 plants and paying for 671,000 staff, according to chief executive Herbert Diess. He called for urgent global action to stem the tide of Covid-19 and warned that job losses may be inevitable if the virus isn't halted quickly.
'Only if we, like China, Korea or other Asian states, get the problem under control then we have a chance to come through the crisis without job losses,' he told a German TV show. 'It requires a very sharp intervention.'
Diess warned that car sales had entirely dried up outside of China; car sales there nosedived when the epidemic first hit, but are gradually recovering, he said - although they're currently only back to half where they were before the outbreak.
VW is one of dozens of car makers left reeling from the effects of the coronavirus, which has halted production at most factories in Europe, the US and elsewhere. Like other manufacturers, it is calling on the European Central Bank to purchase short-term debt to assist a sector crippled by soaring costs and plunging revenues.
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I think I should stop watching videos as it's giving me a small bit of regret that I didn't go for a TCR...
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Yeh I've had a TCR on order since 19/12/2019 and it still hasn't even been built from what I've found out.
Even if the German factories were still running there is no guarantee that the parts logistics would still be making it through.
at least I'm not paying for it to be just sat on the driveway...
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Rimp has someone said to you it hasn't been built? We were both build week 12 for ours.
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I don't know is the truth. I have found no evidence of it reaching the build stage, only that a build week was confirmed. with the dealerships closed its even harder to find anything out.
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Worst case scenario, if yours don't get built there is going to be some proper 2nd hand bargains about when this has all finished... See there is one already at £26,500 with lots at £27/28k. Heading sub £25k in a few months.
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Worst case scenario, if yours don't get built there is going to be some proper 2nd hand bargains about when this has all finished... See there is one already at £26,500 with lots at £27/28k. Heading sub £25k in a few months.
maybe true but the finance rates will be high and I can't find one in colour and spec that I want. Both myself and rimp have got 0% deals and the specs we want.
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Worst case scenario, if yours don't get built there is going to be some proper 2nd hand bargains about when this has all finished... See there is one already at £26,500 with lots at £27/28k. Heading sub £25k in a few months.
maybe true but the finance rates will be high and I can't find one in colour and spec that I want. Both myself and rimp have got 0% deals and the specs we want.
Yes, guess you won't get 0% but you might be able to save a decent chunk to offset it. Think used prices could we well be set for a massive tumble as per 2008.
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Yes but if I can't find one with the spec I want I'm not just buying one for the sake of it. 👍
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Yes but if I can't find one with the spec I want I'm not just buying one for the sake of it. 👍
No I'm sure you won't, was merely pointing out there might be some bargains if yours doesn't make it out the factory.
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Worst case scenario, if yours don't get built there is going to be some proper 2nd hand bargains about when this has all finished... See there is one already at £26,500 with lots at £27/28k. Heading sub £25k in a few months.
maybe true but the finance rates will be high and I can't find one in colour and spec that I want. Both myself and rimp have got 0% deals and the specs we want.
Same for me 0% and the exact spec I want I'm not a fan of settling for something which isn't exactly what I want for the next 3/4 years.
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Yes but if I can't find one with the spec I want I'm not just buying one for the sake of it. 👍
No I'm sure you won't, was merely pointing out there might be some bargains if yours doesn't make it out the factory.
yeah definitely, I've seen Leon Cupra Lux for 22k on Autotrader, can't remember them that low previously.
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yeh, I probs wouldn't even bother if I couldn't get the spec I've chosen. I was looking at the 2nd hand market before putting in my order and 95% of them were either
total bottom spec with those, in my opinion, ugly wheels and no DCC
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some dealership hit every single option including the pano sunroof, which again personally id rather not spend 2k to put that much heavy glass and mechanics on the top of the car when id never use it.
For sure you can get some amazing cars for a lot less that are pre owned but this is the first time in my life were my job has given me the luxury to order myself a brand new car from the factory. Exactly as I want it rather than having to accept it being 90% how I want it.
I'm sure it will be fine though. they will have most of the parts ready at the factory so it would be silly for them to cancel the build.
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yeh, I probs wouldn't even bother if I couldn't get the spec I've chosen. I was looking at the 2nd hand market before putting in my order and 95% of them were either
total bottom spec with those, in my opinion, ugly wheels and no DCC
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some dealership hit every single option including the pano sunroof, which again personally id rather not spend 2k to put that much heavy glass and mechanics on the top of the car when id never use it.
For sure you can get some amazing cars for a lot less that are pre owned but this is the first time in my life were my job has given me the luxury to order myself a brand new car from the factory. Exactly as I want it rather than having to accept it being 90% how I want it.
I'm sure it will be fine though. they will have most of the parts ready at the factory so it would be silly for them to cancel the build.
I am one of those who has got a bottom spec with the ugly wheels and No dcc. I did toy with the idea of upgrading the wheels to the Brescias and I also did wonder about DCC as I have a ongoing stomach condition which means I feel all the bumps when my condition flares up. However, despite having a flareup at the moment I must admit I’m quite happy with the Parker alloys and no DCC. I actually feel the standard GTI ride is better than on my wife’s Audi A1 which has the dynamic/softer suspension. Whichever alloy we choose, most/all I note have a black surround to the spokes meaning they’re really easy to keep clean as brake dust et cetera doesn’t really show. However, I understand your point and wish you luck in your search. When looking for mine, I also noted that although used GTI’s were potentially thousands of pounds cheaper for models that might have only been 6 to 12 months old, by the time you had added the finance APR they were actually as expensive if not more expensive than getting a brand-new GTi on 0%
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yeh the 0% finance is a huge deal and worth more than cosmetic choices.
I'm sure the standard wheels are to the taste of some people. My point was more that if you are going to spend this amount of money on a car you might as well have it looking how you'd want. And wheels can really make or break the look of a car.
I toyed in my head with going standard wheels and then buying some aftermarket OZ alloys to replace them. but after the cost of those I felt I might as well just spec up on the order.
I went for the Pretoria wheels, which I also noticed were a very tough to find option in the classifieds. So maybe a lot of people didn't like them too and I'm the one with weird taste. Or maybe they were seen as boring or less unique seeing as they were also available on the Golf R.
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I went for the Pretoria wheels, which I also noticed were a very tough to find option in the classifieds. So maybe a lot of people didn't like them too and I'm the one with weird taste. Or maybe they were seen as boring or less unique seeing as they were also available on the Golf R.
I think people went for the Reifnitz wheels because they were exclusive and as good as Pretorias are, there are lots of them out there. Also probably the extra cost. I didn't want Pretorias because of the Cup 2 tyres not being ideal unless you have winter tyres as well which I don't want.
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I went for the Pretoria wheels, which I also noticed were a very tough to find option in the classifieds. So maybe a lot of people didn't like them too and I'm the one with weird taste. Or maybe they were seen as boring or less unique seeing as they were also available on the Golf R.
I think people went for the Reifnitz wheels because they were exclusive and as good as Pretorias are, there are lots of them out there. Also probably the extra cost. I didn't want Pretorias because of the Cup 2 tyres not being ideal unless you have winter tyres as well which I don't want.
Not that exclusive now :grin:
Got the Falken f510’s in the end fitted to the new reifnitz reps I got from CM. Hopefully a reasonable choice between the high/low end tyres.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i/Blueskiesdz/0/D48A9D05-B933-48CC-9B38-18CBBB6C774E.jpeg) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/Blueskiesdz/p/c2081f9d-314e-4fc2-bbc9-a5cdda00955b)
I do agree though, but think it’s most for cost and probably not having the Cup2 tyres as for half the year they won’t be ideal. But the Prets do look great and are relatively rare on the GTI but suit it very well. And they were the only wheels available on the CSS I think?
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I went for the Pretoria wheels, which I also noticed were a very tough to find option in the classifieds. So maybe a lot of people didn't like them too and I'm the one with weird taste. Or maybe they were seen as boring or less unique seeing as they were also available on the Golf R.
I think people went for the Reifnitz wheels because they were exclusive and as good as Pretorias are, there are lots of them out there. Also probably the extra cost. I didn't want Pretorias because of the Cup 2 tyres not being ideal unless you have winter tyres as well which I don't want.
Firstly just really liked the wheel, it also kept the on road TCR aligned to the concept released on Worthersee lake in Reifnitz, so the name of the wheel has a nod to its deep GTI heritage in that location which is only something a few would even think to, but I am one of them few :)
With the added Akrapovic the on road TCR is very much the released concept at Worthersee and one of the little soft touches you add to the overall like column
On a practical front, ruined my Pretoria completely all around, where have one slight nick on N/S wheel that you have to look for given how minor it is - and not actually sure why that is, as not driving not suddenly changed, but it does not seem to catch the kerb on times get closer than should (have to sometimes parallel park quickly in less than ideal visibility conditions - before the lockdown of course)
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So from the following Articles it looks like the Factories are opening end of the month/early May
This mentions early May and covers off some of the processes they've been taking:
https://www.marketwitch.com/story/vw-restarts-production-in-europe-after-lockdown-2020-04-15
Short update with the Factories opening the end of the month:
https://www.marketwitch.com/story/volkswagen-aims-to-restart-german-plants-apr-27-2020-04-15
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Worst case scenario, if yours don't get built there is going to be some proper 2nd hand bargains about when this has all finished... See there is one already at £26,500 with lots at £27/28k. Heading sub £25k in a few months.
maybe true but the finance rates will be high and I can't find one in colour and spec that I want. Both myself and rimp have got 0% deals and the specs we want.
Yes, guess you won't get 0% but you might be able to save a decent chunk to offset it. Think used prices could we well be set for a massive tumble as per 2008.
There was a massive tumble in 2008? It must've been short-lived because I got a cracking deal in March 2009 when I chopped in my 57 plate MK5 Golf GT Sport TDI170 PD for a new 140TDI CR Scirocco GT. I got £15k p/x for an 18 month old £20k RRP car that I bought new for £18k after discount.
People generally weren't changing cars and the dealerships were begging for used car stock. Add in the drop in VAT to 15% for the new one, very little money changed hands for the difference.
VWs aren't built to excess, most are customer orders, built to spec on a "just in time" basis. Even in 2009, demand exceeded supply on the UK used market.
I personally hope that there isn't a scrappage scheme put in place - that was a huge con. Instead of shifting cars at a discount, the car companies took advantage to profiteer. Soon after the VAT dropped to 15%, the car companies jacked their prices up to negate the difference, they did the same again with scrappage, all prices went up £2k or thereabouts - the £6k floor for new cars became £8k. You had to be quick to take advantage of the subsidised drop before the gap filling rise kicked in.
Those factors are why (IMO) we went from outgoing MK5 GTIs to incoming MK6 GTIs costing 20% more.
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Monkeyhanger,interesting post.
It’s all geared up for the car dealers-since i’ve been looking into changing mine,i’ve done a lot of research online,spoke to people etc.
I know it’s the way the world works,but when you step back and look at it,car dealers are only happy when you are in debt,i’m struggling with this concept.
My Victorian attitude is that you save till you can afford,then you buy (a house is different)-they would sooner have you in debt,the more I think about it,the more it annoying it becomes.
I hope the arse falls out of it,then hopefully people like me and others can pick the carcass.
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Yeah there were some fantastic bargains back late 08 early 09. VAT had just been slashed from 17.5% to 15%, the BoE were chopping at base rate on a monthly basis, banks were faced with the stark prospect of being nationalised or going broke. Lenders were scared of lending for fear they wouldn't get their money back. So if you had cash, for a very short time you were in a strong position.
January 2009 my Mk5 GT TDi was starting to show its age a bit. One evening I spotted a sudden glut of nearly new Golf's appear on the VW used site. One in particular took my fancy, it was GT Sport TDi 170 58 plate (so about 4 months old) in Blue Graphite with leather, upgraded alloys, multi-function steering wheel and climate control. It was up at £16.5k, which was about £5k below list price. To get a 4 month old car at almost 25% off list was rare back then, and it could easily still be worth 50%+ of list at 3 years old. As a cash buyer I was tempted, but my employer was threatening redundancies and I didn't want to put my head above the parapet by turning up in a new motor when my colleagues were losing their jobs. So I wavered and put it out of my mind. A few days later I had another look and it was still on the site. In a moment of impulse I rang the dealer to enquire, but it was too late it had just been sold. They had other cars, they were cheap too, but not in the 'right' spec. I'd just missed out. Scrappage came along not much after, then VAT went back up and prices kept rising from then on.
On the plus side, I soldiered on with my GT TDi for almost another 2 years, and despite its by then obvious deterioration in reliability (and a quite noticeable droning noise on the overrun in 5th gear) its value only dropped by about £1.5k over that period. I'd have got even more for it had it not been for the gearbox issue.
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There was a massive tumble in 2008? It must've been short-lived because I got a cracking deal in March 2009 when I chopped in my 57 plate MK5 Golf GT Sport TDI170 PD for a new 140TDI CR Scirocco GT. I got £15k p/x for an 18 month old £20k RRP car that I bought new for £18k after discount.
- Here is the historical data
- Prices where declining anyway, ignore the red and green lines now!
- Based on the historical data, you should expect at lease a 20% fall because this is impacting more people, the rise of all finance packages to buy cars, in 2018 2 million cars (new/used) had some type of finance
(https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2020/4/19/9da8781d593346e518a6c465cfa6b53a-full.jpg)
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Then perhaps cash for a short while could be king again-no doubt it’s reign will be a short lived.
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/coronavirus-car-industry (https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/coronavirus-car-industry)
Not sure how this affects those waiting as theirs might not be part of the start up, but does seem that factories are opening again.
Might be better to wait in reality as aside from a weekly run around to elderly relatives with essentials (drop and go) the TCR has become a costly display bauble as its sits statically outside and so anyone be saving themselves monthly depreciation with no pleasure of the drive.
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Golf production restarts w/c 27th at Wolfsburg apparently.
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So car dealerships now can't re open for sales until at least 1st June apparently. VW UK as usual are saying contact your retailer for updated information about orders. How the f*** are you supposed to contact retailers when they are all closed still. What a bunch of c***s VW UK are!!
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So car dealerships now can't re open for sales until at least 1st June apparently. VW UK as usual are saying contact your retailer for updated information about orders. How the f*** are you supposed to contact retailers when they are all closed still. What a bunch of c***s VW UK are!!
The showrooms are shut for onsite sales but I think most dealerships are now open for service/parts and some for online and telephone sales. Have you tried your supplying dealer? There must be someone there who can chase up an order.
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All the sales staff where I'm buying mine from are furloughed and the Brand manager who was in on his own just said he didn't have a clue what was happening and said none of the systems were being updated. The point is though surely VW UK should know more than a supplying dealer and instead of fobbing customers off they should actually try and check.
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Agreed, they should do far better than that.
I was in VW Worcester yesterday getting the car booked for investigation.There seemed to be quite a lot of activity, only the sales desks were empty.
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Nice to see VWuk haven't changed in 10 years :lipsrsealed: since the ordeal with August orders in 09.
As for dealerships I guess its down to individual groups how they handle it.
A mates a saleman at BMW he is working remotely and has even delivered cars to nurses homes.
Another mate works in the parts in one of the large dealer chains they and the workshops have been told they are off till June.
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
That’s good news for you! What spec did you go for in the end, it’s been that long can’t remember?!
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
The same for me...It's at stage 5b which is 'Your car is on the next stage of its journey to the UK'... Good news atleast :laugh:
Given that I'm in the same situation with the dealership all on Furlough I'm not sure what my next steps are! Would be glad to hear anyone's advice on what we can do to clarify car collection.
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Try ringing your supplying dealer. Mine at Northallerton has got skeleton staff in prepping the showroom for social distancing etc. Was told that staff will be back in on Monday and ringing customers about handovers etc.
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
That’s good news for you! What spec did you go for in the end, it’s been that long can’t remember?!
thanks Jim, went for climate screen, DCC, Dynaudio and pure grey. First time I haven't had nav pro.
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
The same for me...It's at stage 5b which is 'Your car is on the next stage of its journey to the UK'... Good news atleast :laugh:
Given that I'm in the same situation with the dealership all on Furlough I'm not sure what my next steps are! Would be glad to hear anyone's advice on what we can do to clarify car collection.
On some of the other VAG forums I visit, customers cars that had been delivered to the dealerships just before lockdown are still sitting at the dealerships. A few customers have had trailered deliveries to their homes, but whether that option - or any other option for car collection / delivery for that matter - is feasible will depend on individual dealerships and whether they’re actually open for business or all staff are currently furloughed.
I read somewhere that lockdown restrictions on car dealerships are going to be eased next month, so if your car is delivered to the dealership next month or later, then maybe you’ll be able to collect it (or have it delivered to your home) without too many issues - that’s assuming the dealer’s workshop isn’t inundated with overdue servicing / MOT / maintenance work, which they might treat as priority over new car PDI’s. A new car handover while maintaining social distancing will be quite interesting though...........
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This is just me being nosey (or ignorant) but does anyone know if a Mk8 of any type has been registered/ sold in the U.K. yet? I know there were some examples in showrooms but did any make it as far as even being road demos?
Is the order book open for Mk8 performance models and I wonder if we will see any GTIs on the road before 2021?
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I know new car deliveries have been going on - they do have a process for a distanced delivery complete with decontamination wipe down....
As for Mk8's no i don't think there are any demo vehicles yet, only showroom ones. I think covid crushed the plan for demo ones.
The performance ones, the latest I saw was that in Germany the order books for the GTI open in "autumn" which means UK order books will be more like December I'd guess and delivery 5 months after that....
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Car dealers can be fully open on 1st June but some are just doing car handovers or delivery etc. The brand manager I've spoken to has said if my car is delivered to the dealership this month then I'll have it this month. Dealerships will be desperate to get cars to customers.
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Thanks Fred.
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I saw a MK8 parked outside a house last week as I was driving home from the supermarket. Didn't have time to get a proper look though.
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Car dealers can be fully open on 1st June but some are just doing car handovers or delivery etc. The brand manager I've spoken to has said if my car is delivered to the dealership this month then I'll have it this month. Dealerships will be desperate to get cars to customers.
I spoke with my dealership and they will formulate a plan from next month. I have the complication of living in England but having ordered in Wales (my company offered a discount with that dealership branch). Fingers crossed there will be approval to pick up next month!
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I saw a MK8 parked outside a house last week as I was driving home from the supermarket. Didn't have time to get a proper look though.
Probably just as well or you’d have been sick! 🤮
Just to prove their sense of humour the Germans even seem to have sent most of the showroom cars to the UK in a shade of sick colour...
Back on topic (almost) one of my local dealers has been advertising this week that they’re slowly catching up with opening up all aspects of the dealership again including delivering new (and used) cars. I’m sure all dealerships will be doing likewise.
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
That’s good news for you! What spec did you go for in the end, it’s been that long can’t remember?!
thanks Jim, went for climate screen, DCC, Dynaudio and pure grey. First time I haven't had nav pro.
Sounds nice... :cool:
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Does anybody have information if VW are going to build "confirmed" models ?
I live in Eastern Europe, and I have ordered a Golf GTI PP on the 10th of February. It got "confirmed" status and was supposed to be built on week 13, but the Factory in Zwickau (Golfs sold in my market are built in Zwickau, Germany, not sure what is the case for UK golfs) closed at the end of week 12... It reopened on the 26th of April, and was supposed to resume production where it has stopped, but my dealer said no golfs for Build Week 13 were built yet.
I have a feeling something is going on there and it won't be built at all. I can't image a whole production line to not be working for almost a whole month now in a reopened factory.
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My week 12 TCR has been built and just waiting to be shipped. UK golfs are built at Wolfsburg.
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I'm wondering if the issue is only with the Zwickau plant. Does anyone here have a gti that was supposed to be build on week 13 and onwards, and has already been built?
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My week 12 TCR has been built and just waiting to be shipped. UK golfs are built at Wolfsburg.
Excellent news, nearly there!
I have just crept to 4000 miles as been able to get out and about more recently, always loved to drive, but getting the TCR moving down some nice A and B roads that know has been good therapy.
However its not the worst think that your car has sat on other side of the channel as my expected mileage about now would be 6000 -7000 miles, and its been sitting duck for target practice by the many birds that are so active this time of year (live in an area with lots of trees, hard to avoid them when park) - The TCR is for driving so you would have found it more frustrating to having it, but only really being able to look at it out of the window.
4000 miles in, the Akrapovic is making some nice noises, it's lost that early days stiffness and is really light and responsive and definitely the favourite of all cars driven, its a joy to drive, has all the day to day capability, but has a really nice playful side with the responsiveness, power and lightness (in relation to the R)
The stealthy grey/black and additional trim has you walking up to it with admiration, get so many looks when out and about.
Few of us shared our TCR experiences and looking forward to you sharing in yours soon :)
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Well would you believe it. Just had an update text saying car now left factory and in transit. I can't remember if that means it's on a ship or waiting port side with its best hat and coat on ticket in hand.
That’s good news for you! What spec did you go for in the end, it’s been that long can’t remember?!
thanks Jim, went for climate screen, DCC, Dynaudio and pure grey. First time I haven't had nav pro.
Was a reluctant convert to the digital display but total convert now and the maps work really well in the driver display with the media display complimenting the map with large direction graphic and table of the next 5 manoeuvres - The media unit in the MK 7.5 is so much better than the MK 7, much sharper graphics and on the NAV the input is now really intuitive.
Have Apple Play but find myself just simply bluetooth my music from phone, BBC Sounds, Deezer etc, all just bluetooth over, - you will have to manually go find some PNG photos for station images on DAB, but just search high quality one on phone and connect cable, the media unit is able to give you you phone menu where you drill down to where images are stored (Iphone 7)
The standard media and NAV is so good that hopefully you not miss the PRO, and though I think standard speakers are good, the dynaudio will give the media experience a good lift to.
Only used the climate screen on handful of occassions, but works brilliantly, not just for clearing a frosted screen but clearing condensation, at the price, well worth it. Also, in certain light it gives a really nice bronzed privacy effect as look at it from exterior (not noticeable at all internally, totally clear.
Mine was Reifnitz DCC Climate Screen & 90% Tint - Was not sure on the tint? too much? but grey is so great with black contrast that the 90% just adds to the presence.
Anyway, excited for you, look forward to your updates when receive.
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Just had another text update this morning. It's now at 5b which is either allocated a shipping slot or on its way to the port. Last update was a fortnight ago which said left the factory.
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The AID (digital dash) was hated by most when it came out, but I've yet to hear anyone with it saying that functionally its a huge leap forward - even if it doesn't look like a victorian time piece from Sherlock Holmes anymore.
I think probably the next digital step in the Mk8 will actually turn out the same.
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My week 12 TCR has been built and just waiting to be shipped. UK golfs are built at Wolfsburg.
Excellent news, nearly there!
I have just crept to 4000 miles as been able to get out and about more recently, always loved to drive, but getting the TCR moving down some nice A and B roads that know has been good therapy.
However its not the worst think that your car has sat on other side of the channel as my expected mileage about now would be 6000 -7000 miles, and its been sitting duck for target practice by the many birds that are so active this time of year (live in an area with lots of trees, hard to avoid them when park) - The TCR is for driving so you would have found it more frustrating to having it, but only really being able to look at it out of the window.
4000 miles in, the Akrapovic is making some nice noises, it's lost that early days stiffness and is really light and responsive and definitely the favourite of all cars driven, its a joy to drive, has all the day to day capability, but has a really nice playful side with the responsiveness, power and lightness (in relation to the R)
The stealthy grey/black and additional trim has you walking up to it with admiration, get so many looks when out and about.
Few of us shared our TCR experiences and looking forward to you sharing in yours soon :)
Lovely .. I could or will quite happy to own something very similar going from a GTI
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Lovely .. I could or will quite happy to own something very similar going from a GTI
When yours arrives you will be very happy
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I think it will be in a few years as I haven't ordered one , I'm sill quite attached to my mk7 tbh
But its my next step I think in the future
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I think it will be in a few years as I haven't ordered one , I'm sill quite attached to my mk7 tbh
But its my next step I think in the future
My observation was based on coming from a MK 7 R so there is difference in the completely planted and solid nature of that drive the light more engaging drive of the TCR
So being a GTI already doubt the difference is as tangible it would just be the MK 7 > MK 7.5 add on and some extra poke. The MK 7 GTI is a great car there has just been some evolution in a few areas but certainly no chasm, when cruising a long for example the MK 7 and MK 7.5/TCR would not behave much differently if at all - consummate comfortable mile eater.
So I am appreciating the evolutionary aspects and more so being the run out as VW chucked the TCR bucket at it and the additional GTI engagement due to the weight loss and FWD
My move was from A3 Quattro to GTD to R so skipped on the GTI but glad to have scratched that itch including the Iconic name (nobody knows or cares what an R is unless in the know) and genuinely feel saved the best till last.
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The AID (digital dash) was hated by most when it came out, but I've yet to hear anyone with it saying that functionally its a huge leap forward - even if it doesn't look like a victorian time piece from Sherlock Holmes anymore.
I think probably the next digital step in the Mk8 will actually turn out the same.
Thats was me, but maybe less so on the R as think for example the Audi S3 dials were much much nicer and where the R were just ok. So it was always give me a really well engineered dial cluster
But totally converted though will caveat that slightly as having again seen the Audi, do think theirs are slicker, especially the additional cost option.
Do not play with mine, map set to center with speed and gears set central to the rev and speed dials, - very clear, with everything need in clear view without distraction to the road
Very rarely use the touchscreen of media unit on move, it is dsitracting and any time have invariably brush wrong option - not really an issue as there is still knobs and switches for the mainly used items - be interesting how folk get on with the MK 8 touchless environment when they are out there and have some heavy real world usage.
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I think it will be in a few years as I haven't ordered one , I'm sill quite attached to my mk7 tbh
But its my next step I think in the future
My observation was based on coming from a MK 7 R so there is difference in the completely planted and solid nature of that drive the light more engaging drive of the TCR
So being a GTI already doubt the difference is as tangible it would just be the MK 7 > MK 7.5 add on and some extra poke. The MK 7 GTI is a great car there has just been some evolution in a few areas but certainly no chasm, when cruising a long for example the MK 7 and MK 7.5/TCR would not behave much differently if at all - consummate comfortable mile eater.
So I am appreciating the evolutionary aspects and more so being the run out as VW chucked the TCR bucket at it and the additional GTI engagement due to the weight loss and FWD
My move was from A3 Quattro to GTD to R so skipped on the GTI but glad to have scratched that itch including the Iconic name (nobody knows or cares what an R is unless in the know) and genuinely feel saved the best till last.
Really interesting and appreciate your take on the models differences they defiantly got it right first time
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I think it will be in a few years as I haven't ordered one , I'm sill quite attached to my mk7 tbh
But its my next step I think in the future
I wondered from your posts if you were hinting at something and might have one in the pipeline.
A great time to buy one right now if you were to though, a big choice of low mileage sub-one year old cars sat on dealer forecourts.
I can echo what Hertsman says as regards from moving to a TCR from an R, and add that the TCR is significantly different enough to drive as compared to a 230PS MK7 PP.
The engine feels much more peppy and eager to go in the TCR, with a different soundtrack from the exhaust. I see a grey 20 plate locally quite often and there’s quite a difference between the original (steel) TCR exhaust and the Akra. The former sounds like a distant WW2 fighter plane at times and the titanium system has more of a rasp.
There are loads of other significant detail differences too, enough to make it feel a different beast, but as Hertsman says, still refined and Golf like when just cruising around.
The phrase “value for money” might not apply to a TCR but these things are bought for other reasons.
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The AID (digital dash) was hated by most when it came out, but I've yet to hear anyone with it saying that functionally its a huge leap forward - even if it doesn't look like a victorian time piece from Sherlock Holmes anymore.
I think probably the next digital step in the Mk8 will actually turn out the same.
Digital dash is different to digital HVAC and other functions, which a driver will intuitively touch without looking at. Impossible to do when it’s touch screen. AID replaced something that the driver merely looked at, so it was an easy transition.
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The phrase “value for money” might not apply to a TCR but these things are bought for other reasons.
Compared with a new MK8 they could be. I'm glad I changed mine but do miss a manual. The DSG seems to me a halfway point between a manual and a proper auto, neither one nor the other. More relaxing at times and in fairness in S it does get going but it is a faff, now a manual TCR, that would've been something :smiley:
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I think it will be in a few years as I haven't ordered one , I'm sill quite attached to my mk7 tbh
But its my next step I think in the future
I wondered from your posts if you were hinting at something and might have one in the pipeline.
A great time to buy one right now if you were to though, a big choice of low mileage sub-one year old cars sat on dealer forecourts.
I can echo what Hertsman says as regards from moving to a TCR from an R, and add that the TCR is significantly different enough to drive as compared to a 230PS MK7 PP.
The engine feels much more peppy and eager to go in the TCR, with a different soundtrack from the exhaust. I see a grey 20 plate locally quite often and there’s quite a difference between the original (steel) TCR exhaust and the Akra. The former sounds like a distant WW2 fighter plane at times and the titanium system has more of a rasp.
There are loads of other significant detail differences too, enough to make it feel a different beast, but as Hertsman says, still refined and Golf like when just cruising around.
The phrase “value for money” might not apply to a TCR but these things are bought for other reasons.
I really like them, not that's really surprising i find them more appealing than the R ,I like the GTI brand / styling and every thing in-between .
but I need to be strong as my responsible adult ( wife ) has a TDI I want to change for a 7,5 R line petrol as she is doing very short journeys its getting long in the tooth , But hell yes ! I think they are Lovely !
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but I need to be strong as my responsible adult ( wife ) has a TDI I want to change for a 7,5 R line petrol as she is doing very short journeys its getting long in the tooth , But hell yes ! I think they are Lovely !
A pair of walking shoes would be excellent for her health :whistle: :laugh:
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:grin: you have a valid point :laugh: Or give her My C1 one :whistle:
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:grin: you have a valid point :laugh: Or give her My C1 one :whistle:
See, now you are starting to think logically. There's 100% no way any wife could argue with that.... :whistle:
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Just had a message from VW that it's near the UK...
I think this means it's currently on the ship over.
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Just had a message from VW that it's near the UK...
I think this means it's currently on the ship over.
what did it say on the message? Ship currently in Grimsby and then heading to port of Tyne afterwards.
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Grimsby?
Maybe its the TCR full of scallies I've just seen being chased by 3 coppers near me...
:cry:
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Just had a message from VW that it's near the UK...
I think this means it's currently on the ship over.
what did it say on the message? Ship currently in Grimsby and then heading to port of Tyne afterwards.
Bugger all! Just that it's en route to the UK... I assume leaving Germany :)
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Just had a message from VW that it's near the UK...
I think this means it's currently on the ship over.
what did it say on the message? Ship currently in Grimsby and then heading to port of Tyne afterwards.
Bugger all! Just that it's en route to the UK... I assume leaving Germany :)
I had the the 5b text last week but no idea if mines on the city of rotterdam ship or not. Ship due in port of Tyne on Tuesday so guess will find out then.
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Getting exciting for you lucky new TCR owners :smiley:
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Grimsby?
Maybe its the TCR full of scallies I've just seen being chased by 3 coppers near me...
:cry:
They'll have to run fast to catch a TCR.... :grin:
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Grimsby?
Maybe its the TCR full of scallies I've just seen being chased by 3 coppers near me...
:cry:
They'll have to run fast to catch a TCR.... :grin:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/8e/aa/a38eaa8c09246f6c573042b237bb0882.gif)
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Had my 5A message from VW this morning!
Original order went in on December 19th. I've waited so long! Only a couple weeks off waiting 6 months.
Think I'll put my Scottish Widows outfit on, stand on the cliffs at Tynemouth and wait for my beloved TCR's boat to come in.
Fingers crossed its actually a bit ahead of what I've been told and its on the same ship as you guys' cars.
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Had my 5A message from VW this morning!
Original order went in on December 19th. I've waited so long! Only a couple weeks off waiting 6 months.
Think I'll put my Scottish Widows outfit on, stand on the cliffs at Tynemouth and wait for my beloved TCR's boat to come in.
Fingers crossed its actually a bit ahead of what I've been told and its on the same ship as you guys' cars.
We can all stand together (2m apart) and welcome our beloved German invasion! I feel like I should've gone for the TCR to join in with the crew now...
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Ah I see we may be too late... My car has gone to stage 6 - Arrived in the UK!
Getting closer!
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So was it the 5b text you got last week?
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So was it the 5b text you got last week?
A timeline:
15/05/20: Stage 5b
04/06/20: Stage 5c
06/06/20: Stage 6
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So was it the 5b text you got last week?
A timeline:
15/05/20: Stage 5b
04/06/20: Stage 5c
06/06/20: Stage 6
I got the 5b on 29th May so hoping I skip the 5c and get the arrived in UK on Tuesday. Not holding my breath though.
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This thread reminds me of 2 years ago when I ordered mine - 26th June just as WLTP started, so instead of September, I picked it up at the end of December.
I recall once it got to the docks at Bremen everything happened really quickly, I was worried it might have got stuck there. Some were being stored at at the empty Berlin Airport but mine was stored at Wolfsburg and then onto Emden.
I finally picked it up on the 21st December, Friday before Christmas and I’d just had some good news on a project I’d been sweating over at work for 18 months the day before - Christmas had a nice glow that year.
Enjoy it when you get it, awesome cars👍
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City of Rotterdam on its way back to Emden from Grimsby. Still due in port of Tyne on Tuesday 👍
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So, VW have just confirmed that even though my car left the factory on 14th May it still hasn't been allocated a transport slot. It's taken a fortnight to get to Emden and then it's sat another 10 days and still hasn't been allocated a slot. They can't have that much of a back log seeing as though the factory shut on the exact week my car was supposed to be built. I'm off to look at alternatives, sick of waiting and sick fed up of VW incompetence once again!
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So, VW have just confirmed that even though my car left the factory on 14th May it still hasn't been allocated a transport slot. It's taken a fortnight to get to Emden and then it's sat another 10 days and still hasn't been allocated a slot. They can't have that much of a back log seeing as though the factory shut on the exact week my car was supposed to be built. I'm off to look at alternatives, sick of waiting and sick fed up of VW incompetence once again!
As the car won’t have been registered yet a transporter would be your only alternative :sad:
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So, VW have just confirmed that even though my car left the factory on 14th May it still hasn't been allocated a transport slot. It's taken a fortnight to get to Emden and then it's sat another 10 days and still hasn't been allocated a slot. They can't have that much of a back log seeing as though the factory shut on the exact week my car was supposed to be built. I'm off to look at alternatives, sick of waiting and sick fed up of VW incompetence once again!
As the car won’t have been registered yet a transporter would be your only alternative :sad:
it's still in Germany so you couldn't even do that.
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Can you not pick it up from the factory storage yard
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No, you haven't been able to do that for years. It's not even at Wolfsburg though it's sitting dockside at Emden.
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No, you haven't been able to do that for years. It's not even at Wolfsburg though it's sitting dockside at Emden.
Hopefully not long now mate.
You know once its on that ferry all will be forgiven :rolleyes:
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No, you haven't been able to do that for years. It's not even at Wolfsburg though it's sitting dockside at Emden.
Hopefully not long now mate.
You know once its on that ferry all will be forgiven :rolleyes:
that's the problem though, they haven't got a clue when it'll be on a ship and as far as I can see no more vehicle carriers are due into Tyne this month. Absolutely piss poor once again from them. Surely they must have some idea of what's going on and ship allocations.
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No, you haven't been able to do that for years. It's not even at Wolfsburg though it's sitting dockside at Emden.
Hopefully not long now mate.
You know once its on that ferry all will be forgiven :rolleyes:
that's the problem though, they haven't got a clue when it'll be on a ship and as far as I can see no more vehicle carriers are due into Tyne this month. Absolutely piss poor once again from them. Surely they must have some idea of what's going on and ship allocations.
VW UK customer service and communication has always been piss poor Chris, you know this! Luckily for VW the cars are fantastic or we'd al be giving them the middle finger and driving BMWs.
When it finally gets here, you won't give the wait another thought.
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If it's not here by then end of this month it's being cancelled.
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To be fair, even without a global pandemic that has shut everything down for 3 months, both of my Mk7's took neigh on 6 months to come.
If anything I'd actually go as far as to say its possibly enough to make me think about anything other than VAG next time.
I don't understand how no other OEM works like that, including ones which build cars in Japan and ship them to the UK.
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Mine was a factory order on 24th of January and I picked it up from the dealer 20th of March.
From at sea it took, overnight at sea, 1 day at the distribution centre at Thorne, Donny and next day it was at the dealer.
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To be fair, even without a global pandemic that has shut everything down for 3 months, both of my Mk7's took neigh on 6 months to come.
If anything I'd actually go as far as to say its possibly enough to make me think about anything other than VAG next time.
I don't understand how no other OEM works like that, including ones which build cars in Japan and ship them to the UK.
Some manufacturers (including Seat within VAG) have moved away from building cars to the customer’s ‘personalised’ spec. In many instances for a particular trim level, the only option is colour choice, which must mean a less complex and more efficient build / production process and shorter lead times than we see with VW.
Built to order cars must add to the timescales from the time of order to delivery of the car to the customer, although the likes of BMW seem to be able to build cars to customers individual spec in much less time than VW can.
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Mine was a factory order on 24th of January and I picked it up from the dealer 20th of March.
From at sea it took, overnight at sea, 1 day at the distribution centre at Thorne, Donny and next day it was at the dealer.
your dealer must have hijacked another existing build slot by the sounds of it. My order went in 4th January and even that was a hijacked existing order.
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To be fair, even without a global pandemic that has shut everything down for 3 months, both of my Mk7's took neigh on 6 months to come.
If anything I'd actually go as far as to say its possibly enough to make me think about anything other than VAG next time.
I don't understand how no other OEM works like that, including ones which build cars in Japan and ship them to the UK.
Some manufacturers (including Seat within VAG) have moved away from building cars to the customer’s ‘personalised’ spec. In many instances for a particular trim level, the only option is colour choice, which must mean a less complex and more efficient build / production process and shorter lead times than we see with VW.
Built to order cars must add to the timescales from the time of order to delivery of the car to the customer, although the likes of BMW seem to be able to build cars to customers individual spec in much less time than VW can.
6 to 8 weeks for a factory order BMW. I know it's been said many times on here and we all know it but the information coming out of VW is just abysmal. They can't even tell me what vehicle carriers are used. Said it was the port who allocate ship slots and nothing to do with VW. They must think people are stupid and to be honest we probably are for buying VW's over and over again :grin:
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Mine was a factory order on 24th of January and I picked it up from the dealer 20th of March.
From at sea it took, overnight at sea, 1 day at the distribution centre at Thorne, Donny and next day it was at the dealer.
your dealer must have hijacked another existing build slot by the sounds of it. My order went in 4th January and even that was a hijacked existing order.
It was a BMW this time though not a VW! :smiley:
If they can do it why cant VW?
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If it's not here by then end of this month it's being cancelled.
Are you building any equity in your current car Chris, or did they just tie themselves to promising your cost to cgange woukdn't increase? Given the current climate, your current car may have actually appreciated if you were to sell independently.
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I'm surprised that VW hasn't switched to only a few option "packs" to minimise all the WLTP permutations that need testing, force people to buy a £1500 pack when they only wanted 3 of the 4 things in the pack that would've cost £1200 bought individually, and to simplify the menu for production line streamlining and more predictable parts requirements.
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If it's not here by then end of this month it's being cancelled.
Are you building any equity in your current car Chris, or did they just tie themselves to promising your cost to cgange woukdn't increase? Given the current climate, your current car may have actually appreciated if you were to sell independently.
they worked out a deal on a suspected delivery date and gave me a trade in based on that. I've since made two further payments so the extra will be added into the deal I suppose. Trade in price is fixed in but was specifically asked not to sell the car privately presumably so they slap 2k onto the trade in price :grin:
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Whilst it’s really nice having a new car, I find the whole process really stressful especially with VW. It should be a really enjoyable experience but sadly, it rarely is.
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Whilst it’s really nice having a new car, I find the whole process really stressful especially with VW. It should be a really enjoyable experience but sadly, it rarely is.
very true Andrew. It takes the shine off unfortunately.
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If it's not here by then end of this month it's being cancelled.
Are you building any equity in your current car Chris, or did they just tie themselves to promising your cost to cgange woukdn't increase? Given the current climate, your current car may have actually appreciated if you were to sell independently.
they worked out a deal on a suspected delivery date and gave me a trade in based on that. I've since made two further payments so the extra will be added into the deal I suppose. Trade in price is fixed in but was specifically asked not to sell the car privately presumably so they slap 2k onto the trade in price :grin:
£2k? And the rest! Bet the buggers give you nowt for the 2 payments made, claiming the car has depreciated by the same amount.
If you were to sell, there's nowt they could do about it. You might want to get in touch with the place I sold my R to, for £2k more than the best price offered at Pulman or Lookers - Prestige Performance Yorkshire. They requested pics and description, they came up on the train to appraise, pay electronically and take away within an hour . If you give a true statement of condition, they won't chip you down when they get to you.
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The two payments have reduced the balance owed on mine. The trade in is fixed so effectively my equity is increasing. If they try and change the deal then they can definitely keep the car :grin:
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What year is your PP as I’m looking for one? Thanks :angry:
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Registered December 2016
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Registered December 2016
Did they give you a decent price for it
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Registered December 2016
Did they give you a decent price for it
yes I think so. The more my new one is delayed the better it becomes aswell :grin:
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Registered December 2016
Did they give you a decent price for it
yes I think so. The more my new one is delayed the better it becomes aswell :grin:
Was it about the 10k mark they offered or much more
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Err much more than that.
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Err much more than that.
Your car must be low miles with decent spec :smiley:
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Err much more than that.
Your car must be low miles with decent spec :smiley:
£10k must be well under the 4 year GFV, surely? I'd expect about £13-14k p/x on a 3.5 year old GTI PP, and expect them to be selling it for £17-18k.
Let me know when yours is 42 months old, I've got £10k waiting in the bank for it. :smiley:
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Err much more than that.
Your car must be low miles with decent spec :smiley:
£10k must be well under the 4 year GFV, surely? I'd expect about £13-14k p/x on a 3.5 year old GTI PP, and expect them to be selling it for £17-18k.
Let me know when yours is 42 months old, I've got £10k waiting in the bank for it. :smiley:
A friend’s r was nearly going back to dealer for just shy of 9k granted it was a 14plate but dealers always try offer way less than market value
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Err much more than that.
Your car must be low miles with decent spec :smiley:
£10k must be well under the 4 year GFV, surely? I'd expect about £13-14k p/x on a 3.5 year old GTI PP, and expect them to be selling it for £17-18k.
Let me know when yours is 42 months old, I've got £10k waiting in the bank for it. :smiley:
A friend’s r was nearly going back to dealer for just shy of 9k granted it was a 14plate but dealers always try offer way less than market value
Yes, they always try to low ball you to increase their margin on selling it (maybe 25% markup for them vs what they gave you for it). While you're under the confines of PCP though, if they try to offer you less than GFV for your term, you'd hand the car back and start afresh with a new PCP. £9K for a 6 year old R seems a little low, but at that age I doubt the VW dealers are too interested in it being on their forecourt - probably got shipped off to auction.
I got £17300 for my (then) 46 month old R manual with Prets through an indie, best offer on table with local dealerships was £15500. However- I still had the remainder of 5 year extended factory warranty left, which was a big incentive for the Indy to pay what they did.
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Err much more than that.
Your car must be low miles with decent spec :smiley:
30k miles and DCC, tech pack, HBA. 5 door. You'd be better off telling me what you want to offer. Private sale will be more than what I've been offered trade in.
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Err much more than that.
Your car must be low miles with decent spec :smiley:
30k miles and DCC, tech pack, HBA. 5 door. You'd be better off telling me what you want to offer. Private sale will be more than what I've been offered trade in.
No I was thinking maybe you should toss a quick ad up as I know you’ll probably get more than dealers offered
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Tried that on here before, no interest at all.
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Tried that on here before, no interest at all.
Tried it before too everyone wants to know what your part-ex price then offer you £100 more for the hassle of communication/delivery and anxiety of whether you'll get paid in time. It's even more of a hassle if the car's PCP'd and you've got to get VWFS in the mix to get the new buyer to clear the balance...
I personally wouldn't bother unless there was at least a grand more than p/x in play.
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Tried that on here before, no interest at all.
Tried it before too everyone wants to know what your part-ex price then offer you £100 more for the hassle of communication/delivery and anxiety of whether you'll get paid in time. It's even more of a hassle if the car's PCP'd and you've got to get VWFS in the mix to get the new buyer to clear the balance...
I personally wouldn't bother unless there was at least a grand more than p/x in play.
👍👍
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I bought my GTD off a guy who was trading it in that day, exactly £100 more than trade in and he was happy. He didn’t have finance though so I do understand that makes it a bit more tricky.
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I bought my GTD off a guy who was trading it in that day, exactly £100 more than trade in and he was happy. He didn’t have finance though so I do understand that makes it a bit more tricky.
That's fine when you're selling to friends or family and you know they won't let you down in getting the money ready when you need it, close enough to the day you're getting your new car so as not to leave you carless for a period.
Putting an ad on here and having 3 people saying they'll have it but fail to bite the bullet and buy...it's a lot of ball ache for £100.
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So still no movement. Five weeks since it left the factory and still no ship allocation. Apparently cars destined for the North East don't always go to Port of Tyne and quite often go to Grimsby. Grimsby had a vehicle carrier in yesterday and another arriving tomorrow yet Tyne has nothing else this month.
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That is crap.
Utter crap. :cry:
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I think so too.
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I do feel for you, waiting 6 weeks for my PP was torture, can't imagine waiting as long as you have. I would say though it's a great car, if you can wait I'm pretty sure after the first drive all will be forgiven.
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So still no movement. Five weeks since it left the factory and still no ship allocation. Apparently cars destined for the North East don't always go to Port of Tyne and quite often go to Grimsby. Grimsby had a vehicle carrier in yesterday and another arriving tomorrow yet Tyne has nothing else this month.
Is that because there's bugger all demand for Sunderland built Nissans on the continent right now?
Can confirm from the end of my street and all the hooks heard outside last night that there are plenty of cargo ships entering and exiting the Tyne.
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Yeah I can see plenty of ships on marine traffic just not vehicle carriers. Grimsby have now had three carriers to Tynes one. City of Rotterdam back in Emden tomorrow morning but can't see where it's going after that.
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All I know on my side is that the car is sat in Grimsby waiting for a vehicle transport to the dealership.
There isn't any plans on when it will move, all I'm told is that the expectation is they typically want to clear the cars by the end of the month...
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You'd think they'd be chomping at the bit to get them moved and out to customers.
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You'd think they'd be chomping at the bit to get them moved and out to customers.
Yes... Well apparently in a turn of events my dealership just sent me a video of my car at the dealership... Which turned up unexpectedly today!
There's a "tax block" on it and apparently most of that team is on Furlough so no longer a physical restriction it's now an approvals restriction...
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Dvla have all run away. Absolutely nothing moving through them at all unless it's a lorry.
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I did a SORN on my Father in Laws car a couple of weeks ago - took about 10 days to register vs. the time period of a day when I did my sons car a year ago - fingers crossed for you though.
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I had to send some V5 changes off in March... still nothing.
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I do feel for you, waiting 6 weeks for my PP was torture, can't imagine waiting as long as you have. I would say though it's a great car, if you can wait I'm pretty sure after the first drive all will be forgiven.
Lockdown 1st world problems... This arrived at the dealers right at the start of lockdown - imagine waiting nearly 3 months extra to drive this home!
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Personally I would have red but it's a pretty amazing bit of kit :cool:
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So I think they've sorted the tax... Something VW finance have to do with approving acceptance of Tax on the car and clicking go.
The car is registered now and it seems that I can go and pick it up on Saturday. Woo!!
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Mines still sitting at Emden. No one at VW in UK or Germany has a clue how shipping works and it's apparently all down to the port companies what is allocated. 6 weeks it's now been sitting god knows where, absolute s4it customer service from VW.
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Mines still sitting at Emden. No one at VW in UK or Germany has a clue how shipping works and it's apparently all down to the port companies what is allocated. 6 weeks it's now been sitting god knows where, absolute s4it customer service from VW.
Not been on here for a while but did expect to see your "its here" post :sad:
Will say the car is worth it though, really fun to drive and as with all MK 7.5 the cabin is a nice place to be, love its looks more than ever, (it also gets plenty of looks) and to this day not seen another on road (maybe one of reasons why it gets so many looks) so hopefully once you have it and are putting miles on it all the pain will fade into the distant.
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Mines still sitting at Emden. No one at VW in UK or Germany has a clue how shipping works and it's apparently all down to the port companies what is allocated. 6 weeks it's now been sitting god knows where, absolute s4it customer service from VW.
Did you ever expect any other kind of service Chris? Last time they had a huge backlog of cars waiting dockside, they had that famous hail storm wrecking all the cars.
Make the dealership wait to register it as a 70 plate when it finally arrives!
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Mines still sitting at Emden. No one at VW in UK or Germany has a clue how shipping works and it's apparently all down to the port companies what is allocated. 6 weeks it's now been sitting god knows where, absolute s4it customer service from VW.
Did you ever expect any other kind of service Chris? Last time they had a huge backlog of cars waiting dockside, they had that famous hail storm wrecking all the cars.
Make the dealership wait to register it as a 70 plate when it finally arrives!
70 plate did cross my mind and the way things are going with delivery that's when it'll turn up. We always knew the customer service was pi44 poor but it's the fact no one knows anything. Someone somewhere within VW must be in charge of deliveries and port allocations. I still can't see how they've got that much of a backlog, they weren't even producing cars for 8 weeks and mine was out the factory door the first week they resumed. Makes me wonder if it's been damaged or lost and the chassis number I've got is just made up 😂😂
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Makes me wonder if it's been damaged or lost and the chassis number I've got is just made up 😂😂
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Never a truer word..... :sad: We had a mk6 GTi delivered in 2009 and when we collected it, it had the bumber blanking plates for the headlamp washers (painted white like the bumper) in the passenger door bin.... As it had headlamp washers we never got a straight answer as to why they were there.
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Mines still sitting at Emden. No one at VW in UK or Germany has a clue how shipping works and it's apparently all down to the port companies what is allocated. 6 weeks it's now been sitting god knows where, absolute s4it customer service from VW.
Someone has posted the following on uk-polos.net forum earlier today;
‘Been reading over on the Tiguan forums as they're in a similar boat to us. One chap on there is very knowledgeable on the port layout
Someone emailed VW UK regional manager and they said that Emden currently has a 25000 car backlog to clear!‘
I wonder how a 25,000 car backlog compares to the number of cars normally waiting to be shipped during ‘normal‘ non-pandemic times?
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How on earth can they have 25000 back log. They must have had that before the factory shut or for the first few weeks after reopening they just didn't deliver any cars at all. Either way it's absolutely shambolic from VW.
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So I've been lucky and all is sorted for me to go an pick the car up tomorrow! After a long time on the forum without a GTI it will be nice to get behind the wheel.
I'm feeling a little sad to be getting rid of my Fiesta ST go-kart! But excited to be in something new.
Hopefully everyone else isn't too far from getting their car now!
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So I've been lucky and all is sorted for me to go an pick the car up tomorrow! After a long time on the forum without a GTI it will be nice to get behind the wheel.
I'm feeling a little sad to be getting rid of my Fiesta ST go-kart! But excited to be in something new.
Hopefully everyone else isn't too far from getting their car now!
Good news! Enjoy new car day. Take plenty of pictures!
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5C today..... awaiting that Level 6 notification!
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Nothing come through for me. I'll be mightily pi44ed off if mine still hasn't been shipped. I know I've threatened before but it will be cancelled this time!!
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Mines still sitting at Emden. No one at VW in UK or Germany has a clue how shipping works and it's apparently all down to the port companies what is allocated. 6 weeks it's now been sitting god knows where, absolute s4it customer service from VW.
Someone has posted the following on uk-polos.net forum earlier today;
‘Been reading over on the Tiguan forums as they're in a similar boat to us. One chap on there is very knowledgeable on the port layout
Someone emailed VW UK regional manager and they said that Emden currently has a 25000 car backlog to clear!‘
I wonder how a 25,000 car backlog compares to the number of cars normally waiting to be shipped during ‘normal‘ non-pandemic times?
They probably are not all VWs. BMW ship from Emden as well so it will be all the German manufacturers cars making up the 25k backlog I think?
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No it's just vag group cars.
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No it's just vag group cars.
Sorry yes, you are right. I was thinking for some reason my M135i shipped from Emden. Ive looked again and it was Cuxhaven to Immingham.
I think this lockdown has stopped my brain from working! :rolleyes:
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No it's just vag group cars.
Sorry yes, you are right. I was thinking for some reason my M135i shipped from Emden. Ive looked again and it was Cuxhaven to Immingham.
I think this lockdown has stopped my brain from working! :rolleyes:
was yours built and shipped in 6 to 8 weeks?
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Hopefully you get some positive news soon mcmaddy.... Have you had any updates???
I wanted to say... I've posted some pics in new arrivals, I'm really enjoying the car, still getting used to the slight size change around the cities! But I'm surprised - I thought I would miss my Fiesta ST but this seems to fill the gap nicely! Love the 2020 PP!
Still trying to eek out some more economy on the long drives to balance the heavy footed driving otherwise. I'm reaching a max of 42MPG at the moment which is good, I keep everything in sports mode (individual with all but engine sound in sport, or DCC in comfort for the motorway).
All in all really happy. I have this desire to get it cleaned often though, which unfortunately I have to outsource as I'm in a flat but hey ho!
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No updates whatsoever. It'll have left the factory 8 weeks on Friday this week. Rimp has had his 6 text so should be picking up soon. Guys on the mk2tiguan forum have said rumour has it that VW are delivering cars that are parked nearest the dock and then instead of moving cars forward they are just putting new factory ones in place. Basically the cars that are sitting at the back will get delivered when no other cars are sitting at the docks. I've now got a case number with VW so will see if I get to speak to someone sensible.
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Just seeing if anyone has had a 5c text or email this morning. Spoke to a "case manager" yesterday and she was as clueless as the idiots who answer the phone. She's didn't see the problem in that the car left the factory two months ago and still hasn't been delivered. It wasn't until I pointed out other people were receiving cars after only waiting a fortnight from the factory that she seemed surprised. She'd spoken to Brand department who had blatantly lied to her about deliveries and shipping but because she was so disinterested she couldn't be bothered to do much more. Ringing me back on Monday with an update so I told her not to bother unless she knew exactly where the car was or it was to confirm my car was on city of Rotterdam into Tyne on Sunday. I'll take the fact I haven't had an update text this morning as it isn't on that ship either. 4ucking useless is an understatement!!
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So city of Rotterdam is now going to Grimsby and then onto Tyne and St Petersburg is going to Tyne and then direct to Grimsby. 🤷♂️
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I sympathise with your problem, however when mine was caught up in the WLTP delays in late 2018 I wrote to the VAG CEO and was passed to a case manager, I have to be honest, she was superb, proactively helpful with updates and also liaising with the dealer (who were also great). CV19 has messed everything up.
Good luck with progress.
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I sympathise with your problem, however when mine was caught up in the WLTP delays in late 2018 I wrote to the VAG CEO and was passed to a case manager, I have to be honest, she was superb, proactively helpful with updates and also liaising with the dealer (who were also great). CV19 has messed everything up.
Good luck with progress.
it's only messed things up for some not all. Some deliveries are a couple of weeks from leaving the factory and some like mine are months. It's just showing how incompetent VW are and how bad at customer service they are.
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it's only messed things up for some not all. Some deliveries are a couple of weeks from leaving the factory and some like mine are months. It's just showing how incompetent VW are and how bad at customer service they are.
Hopefully there are no underlying causes for the delay like accident damage in transit that they'll fix on the quiet before you get it. At least one of the Prets on my R had been damage repaired prior to delivery, that discovery only made when the wife scraped the hell out of the alloy and it needed repainting.
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I've asked the case manager to confirm by email that the cast isn't lost or damaged, guess what, still waiting for the email.
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I've asked the case manager to confirm by email that the cast isn't lost or damaged, guess what, still waiting for the email.
You don’t really expect an honest answer now do you
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I've asked the case manager to confirm by email that the cast isn't lost or damaged, guess what, still waiting for the email.
Could you ask to see details from VW’s system of the car’s journey and any checks / repairs made to the car during that journey from the factory to UK dealer (when it actually gets delivered)? Presumably, details of any in-transit damage or pre-delivery repairs would have to be logged. Hopefully no damage-related details will be logged, which should give you some reassurance that delays aren’t down to repairs being done.
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I've asked the case manager to confirm by email that the cast isn't lost or damaged, guess what, still waiting for the email.
You don’t really expect an honest answer now do you
not really but you can only ask 👍
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I've asked the case manager to confirm by email that the cast isn't lost or damaged, guess what, still waiting for the email.
Could you ask to see details from VW’s system of the car’s journey and any checks / repairs made to the car during that journey from the factory to UK dealer (when it actually gets delivered)? Presumably, details of any in-transit damage or pre-delivery repairs would have to be logged. Hopefully no damage-related details will be logged, which should give you some reassurance that delays aren’t down to repairs being done.
they wouldn't tell you anyway, I've asked but not holding out for an honest reply.
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Finally have a 5c text this morning. Car is either going to Grimsby on city of rotterdam which gets in this morning or it's coming into Tyne tomorrow after its been to Grimsby. It could however have just been loaded onto city of st Petersburg that comes to Tyne on Tuesday :grin:
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Hurrah! Congratulations!! I'm sure your patience will be rewarded :smiley:
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Hurrah! Congratulations!! I'm sure your patience will be rewarded :smiley:
I hope so 👍
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Hurrah! Congratulations!! I'm sure your patience will be rewarded :smiley:
I hope so 👍
I had a drive out today just because and it is a great car, really comfortable and plenty of grunt if you need it. I'd be amazed if you don't love it :smiley:
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Your TCR has become a thing of legend like Monkey's R :whistle:
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Your TCR has become a thing of legend like Monkey's R :whistle:
😂😂👍
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Your TCR has become a thing of legend like Monkey's R :whistle:
Which one has taken longer? My R was 8 months and 2 weeks. Kept it 46 months though.
The A4 purchase felt odd. Looking at car to receiving car - 72 hours.
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Car was ordered on 4th January so 6 months but to be fair the coronavirus played a big part in the delays.
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Car was ordered on 4th January so 6 months but to be fair the coronavirus played a big part in the delays.
I think mine was down to optioning Prets - lots of lease specials on Cadiz were getting built in 3 months.
Its a good job VW make a good car - I wouldn't wait 6 months for a mundane one. VW really need to start building cars as quickly as BMW do.
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Its a good job VW make a good car - I wouldn't wait 6 months for a mundane one. VW really need to start building cars as quickly as BMW do.
BMW 135i is looking at a 6 month wait :shocked:
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Its a good job VW make a good car - I wouldn't wait 6 months for a mundane one. VW really need to start building cars as quickly as BMW do.
BMW 135i is looking at a 6 month wait :shocked:
a work colleague ordered a BMW 320 and it was built and delivered in 7 weeks. It takes VW 7 weeks to give you an order number 😂😂
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Its a good job VW make a good car - I wouldn't wait 6 months for a mundane one. VW really need to start building cars as quickly as BMW do.
BMW 135i is looking at a 6 month wait :shocked:
a work colleague ordered a BMW 320 and it was built and delivered in 7 weeks. It takes VW 7 weeks to give you an order number 😂😂
7 to 8 weeks is the norm for a BMW unless it's a proper M (M3, M4, M5 etc.). The 135 isn't seen as an M so if they're currently on a 6 month wait, that's unusual. My cousin got a factry fresh order on a 235 done in 8 weeks a year ago.
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I think its the covid backlog / restrictions.
I dread to think what effect it will have on VW if BMW were generally 8 weeks.
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It's not just VW, there are people on the BMW forum having long waits for 3 Series. Some from Nov and others who ordered in Jan scheduled for August/Sept. And these are 330i and 330e models.
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I expect the hybrids have some supply and demand issues
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Car was ordered on 4th January so 6 months but to be fair the coronavirus played a big part in the delays.
I ordered 19th December last year, so its been about 7 months now. Its free to be picked up this week but the PPF guy at the detailer's is on his holidays so its staying at the dealership for a week longer.
I was told that the reason so many cars were waiting in European ports was because all the ships due to deliver right after lockdown were held in the UK for a while before being prevented from offloading. Then ordered to return to the European mainland with the vehicles still onboard.
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Car was ordered on 4th January so 6 months but to be fair the coronavirus played a big part in the delays.
I ordered 19th December last year, so its been about 7 months now. Its free to be picked up this week but the PPF guy at the detailer's is on his holidays so its staying at the dealership for a week longer.
I was told that the reason so many cars were waiting in European ports was because all the ships due to deliver right after lockdown were held in the UK for a while before being prevented from offloading. Then ordered to return to the European mainland with the vehicles still onboard.
we'll probably never know the truth 🤷♂️