I ordered my car back on Aug 12th, and still haven't been allocated a build week. Dealer claims I'll still get my car by the promised late nov/early dec. Has anyone else who ordered around then been given a date yet?
Many thanks.........
Admittedly I've gone for a few options (ACC, sunroof) but I was assured by the dealer that there were no issues with these (although I'm a cynic by nature :wink:). A few more replies with confirmed build dates & I'll be showing this thread to the broker I went through!
Cheers so far guys.
All I'm trying to establish is whether VW are swamped or simply that I have a issue with my dealer.
All I'm trying to establish is whether VW are swamped or simply that I have a issue with my dealer.
when i picked my car up earlier this month, after waiting 17.5 weeks for it, my dealer said good job you didn't order now as the wait would be even longer because of high order volumes etc etc. so you may be waiting longer than others. keep hassling your dealer though, he will get sick of it and will try to push the order through quicker. :laugh:
I'll tell you who my dealer was if you like.... :cool:
Rolfe.
Ordered July 7th - No buid date yet.
Was originally told end Sept, then end Oct, now end Nov.
Mine has sunroof and phone prep which must be holding it up.
Have a Mk5 to sell as well and want to sell that before Xmas really
Ordered July 7th - No buid date yet.
Ordered July 7th - No buid date yet.
get onto your dealer mate. they are jerking you off. you should have at least a build week by now, or even a delivery date. hassle them daily till they get f7cked off with you calling you and they'll get their a7se in gear.
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Wolksvagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Wolksvagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Wolksvagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
LED rears and keyless ignition? :cool:
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Wolksvagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
LED rears and keyless ignition? :cool:
that would be FANTASTIC....
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Wolksvagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
LED rears and keyless ignition? :cool:
that would be FANTASTIC....
And totally false too. :grin:
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Wolksvagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
LED rears and keyless ignition? :cool:
that would be FANTASTIC....
And totally false too. :grin:
We can live in hope, not that it makes any difference to me apart from the fact I'd be a bit envious :smiley:
mmm ok I live in Italy, and I am a really good friend with a major Volkswagen dealer, and they told me that the golf that are coming out of the factory on late october, are going to have something different from the ones previously built.You will have to keep phoning Volkswagen customer service in Italy to try and find out for us :evil:
At this point not even the dealer knows what's been changed and why, but is soething that will affect the majority of the wolkswagen fleet... btw he will tell me as soon he finds out what it is!
therefore this migh be the reason for the delay...
This is getting really frustrating now. I was originally given (obviously provisional although I didn't know that at the time) a build week of 40. It was then updated to week 44 and now that the computer has done it's weekly update is now showing as 48 - still unconfirmed!!
This is what the dealer said:
'The car updates on our system on a Tuesday, and I have just checked yesterdays update. It has now moved to week 48, but could possibly come forward. This happens regularly until the build week is confirmed, and then it is solid.'
How often do you think it's worth contacting VW CC?
Just called them. They said that it's showing as wk 48 (unconfirmed) and that I should expect delivery mid December. I was hoping to have the car mid Oct - oh well..
VWKev - when did you place your order?
Got the call today. (Wonder whether he go on this forum) Told me they are building the car this week (Week39) and will be shipped to UK/Grimsby before the end of this month.
I ordered my car before Rolfe, just wonder how she manage to get her car this fast???? :rolleyes:
I am getting more and more excited!
This is week 41 dude.
This is week 41 dude.
have you got your car yet kev?! it must be this week surely?! i had a white gti today - looked the nuts i have to say :smiley:
I'm hoping this week mate, gonna give the dealer a call today.
posted this in my other thread too
Woohoo, just off the phone with my dealer, it will be with him today, he will valet and PDI it and have the car turned round in a day for me. Just need to fax off finance once the car comes in and get him all paid up. Should have the car in the next 2 days or so I rekon. :smiley:
posted this in my other thread too
Woohoo, just off the phone with my dealer, it will be with him today, he will valet and PDI it and have the car turned round in a day for me. Just need to fax off finance once the car comes in and get him all paid up. Should have the car in the next 2 days or so I rekon. :smiley:
that is wicked news mate - i look forward to seeing the pics!!
Just for info.
I ordered week 26, car was built week 35, arrived in UK week 37 and was delivered week 39.
(4 weeks to get from the factory to the dealer. Maybe things will be faster now after the busy September period)
just to wet your appetite kev, here's the courtesy car i got given yesterday...!
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab5/matchboy1976/gtiwhite.jpg)
just to wet your appetite kev, here's the courtesy car i got given yesterday...!
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab5/matchboy1976/gtiwhite.jpg)
Just for info.
I ordered week 26, car was built week 35, arrived in UK week 37 and was delivered week 39.
(4 weeks to get from the factory to the dealer. Maybe things will be faster now after the busy September period)
LOL, don't forget to run it in properly!
For me, I forgot a few times (as TT has commented on already!)
Don't forget the very useful checklist for collecting the car (can't remember where it was, Mk5 section iirc)
You'll also need your drivers license, both card and paper bit.
LOL, don't forget to run it in properly!
For me, I forgot a few times (as TT has commented on already!)
Don't forget the very useful checklist for collecting the car (can't remember where it was, Mk5 section iirc)
You'll also need your drivers license, both card and paper bit.
Yeah the checklist is all ready to go :smiley:
LOL, don't forget to run it in properly!
For me, I forgot a few times (as TT has commented on already!)
Don't forget the very useful checklist for collecting the car (can't remember where it was, Mk5 section iirc)
You'll also need your drivers license, both card and paper bit.
Yeah the checklist is all ready to go :smiley:
Are they not giving you 7 free days insurance so you don't have to bother with insurance etc to get the car taxed?
LOL, don't forget to run it in properly!
For me, I forgot a few times (as TT has commented on already!)
Don't forget the very useful checklist for collecting the car (can't remember where it was, Mk5 section iirc)
You'll also need your drivers license, both card and paper bit.
Yeah the checklist is all ready to go :smiley:
Are they not giving you 7 free days insurance so you don't have to bother with insurance etc to get the car taxed?
they never mentioned anything like that to me. :sad:
LOL, don't forget to run it in properly!
For me, I forgot a few times (as TT has commented on already!)
Don't forget the very useful checklist for collecting the car (can't remember where it was, Mk5 section iirc)
You'll also need your drivers license, both card and paper bit.
Yeah the checklist is all ready to go :smiley:
All I'm trying to establish is whether VW are swamped or simply that I have a issue with my dealer.
when i picked my car up earlier this month, after waiting 17.5 weeks for it, my dealer said good job you didn't order now as the wait would be even longer because of high order volumes etc etc. so you may be waiting longer than others. keep hassling your dealer though, he will get sick of it and will try to push the order through quicker. :laugh:
Crikey! I picked mine up on 17th September having waited 10 weeks. And it would have been nearer 9 if I hadn't gone on holiday just at the crucial moment.
And I got £2,000 discount over and above the £2,000 scrappage deal.
5-door
Pearlescent paint job
DSG
ACC
Sunroof
Winter pack
Luxury pack
Flat tyre indicator (well, it was cheap....)
I'll tell you who my dealer was if you like.... :cool:
Rolfe.
Whats a hazard triangle ?
howlingmoon
What's the 'executive package' in your sig?
I think it should be in all European specced cars...
Rolfe that is some deal that you got, any chance you'll let me know the dealers name?
I want that hazard triangle, seriously I do. Do I ask for it if its not in the boot ?
I want that hazard triangle, seriously I do. Do I ask for it if its not in the boot ?
Not sure about your UK spec... Well look at the left side in your boot, if there is a clip and a strap and no red plastic case, then you should ask for it. But if there is nothing at either sides, then perhaps UK spec does not include a hazard triangle but its compulsory for it in continental Europe though...
can't believ you all waited that long. depends on what you added to a standard model i guess. its not worth getting the extras as you dont recuperate them when you sell.
just to wet your appetite kev, here's the courtesy car i got given yesterday...!
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab5/matchboy1976/gtiwhite.jpg)
:cry: :drool: :drool:
I want it now. :grin:
just to wet your appetite kev, here's the courtesy car i got given yesterday...!
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab5/matchboy1976/gtiwhite.jpg)
:cry: :drool: :drool:
I want it now. :grin:
it probably is your car Kev and all they will do is stick your numberplate on it :tongue: :grin: :grin:
Hope you were gentle with it matchboy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
scan it in and email it stating its an original,
or get insurance to email them one
all my docs are now emailed to me so i can print it out mesen or forward on as required :wink:
Car now had its PDI done and is fine. Faxed insurance documents to the dealer this morning but they now have came back and said they cant accept a copy and need an original !! Thats gonna set me back a few days ?
Car now had its PDI done and is fine. Faxed insurance documents to the dealer this morning but they now have came back and said they cant accept a copy and need an original !! Thats gonna set me back a few days ?
Can't you just use this 7 day insurance offerred by VW?
... the GTi insurance for us is £198 for the year ...
Car now had its PDI done and is fine. Faxed insurance documents to the dealer this morning but they now have came back and said they cant accept a copy and need an original !! Thats gonna set me back a few days ?
Can't you just use this 7 day insurance offerred by VW?
Car now had its PDI done and is fine. Faxed insurance documents to the dealer this morning but they now have came back and said they cant accept a copy and need an original !! Thats gonna set me back a few days ?
Can't you just use this 7 day insurance offerred by VW?
Definitely worth considering this - takes the pressure off getting your own docs to the dealer. I used the 7 day deal to avoid my new insurance beginning before 1st October. Fully comp, but doesn't include business cover
Car now had its PDI done and is fine. Faxed insurance documents to the dealer this morning but they now have came back and said they cant accept a copy and need an original !! Thats gonna set me back a few days ?
Can't you just use this 7 day insurance offerred by VW?
I asked the dealer about that as I have just signed the Conformation of Registration Details form. He said its easier to get an original copy of the insurance as the 7 day insurance from VW I'd have to ring from the dealer's garage and it takes around 2 hrs on the phone.
Car now had its PDI done and is fine. Faxed insurance documents to the dealer this morning but they now have came back and said they cant accept a copy and need an original !! Thats gonna set me back a few days ?
Can't you just use this 7 day insurance offerred by VW?
I asked the dealer about that as I have just signed the Conformation of Registration Details form. He said its easier to get an original copy of the insurance as the 7 day insurance from VW I'd have to ring from the dealer's garage and it takes around 2 hrs on the phone.
I know you've got it all sorted now but what he told you about the 7 day cover is bollox, I've aranged this twice now and it takes about 10-15 mins to get a quote over the phone, tell them to ram it then tell them the dealer you're getting it from. Easy.
Great price on the insurance! Bet you can't wait..
I HATE WORK. :sad: look what they made me go pick up today to replace the works mk5.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/Photo-0153.jpg)
Insurance company is sending the documents by special delivery for tomorrow, it will be sent direct to the garage and will be with them between 9 and 1pm - Good news there.Full no claims,driving 20 years,first company i tried £220 fully comp on my new gti mk6 due in aug, there are some perks to being 30 something. SIMON
Also, with a name switch on our insurance, misses down as main driver and me as 2nd driver, the GTi insurance for us is £198 for the year. Not too shabby.
I know how you feel fella!! got one of them piles of sh1t on my driveway too :grin:That car i have found out is why my own personal original order that was through the works fleet contact was how can i say this......... removed and i had to go elsewere and pay more! :undecided: .
I know how you feel fella!! got one of them piles of sh1t on my driveway too :grin:That car i have found out is why my own personal original order that was through the works fleet contact was how can i say this......... removed and i had to go elsewere and pay more! :undecided: .
Insurance company is sending the documents by special delivery for tomorrow, it will be sent direct to the garage and will be with them between 9 and 1pm - Good news there.Full no claims,driving 20 years,first company i tried £220 fully comp on my new gti mk6 due in aug, there are some perks to being 30 something. SIMON
Also, with a name switch on our insurance, misses down as main driver and me as 2nd driver, the GTi insurance for us is £198 for the year. Not too shabby.
£220 ? I highly doubt that unless you have something silly like a £800 excess. KEV
I'm 35 and have been driving almost 20 years with 13 years NCB and get £380-ish with I think £250 excess.KEV
THAT REMINDS ME OF A CONVERSATION WE HAD :grin: :grin: :grin: NOW SAY SORRY SIMON FOR BEING SUCH A DOUBTING THOMAS(KEV) :drool:
Insurance company is sending the documents by special delivery for tomorrow, it will be sent direct to the garage and will be with them between 9 and 1pm - Good news there.Full no claims,driving 20 years,first company i tried £220 fully comp on my new gti mk6 due in aug, there are some perks to being 30 something. SIMON
Also, with a name switch on our insurance, misses down as main driver and me as 2nd driver, the GTi insurance for us is £198 for the year. Not too shabby.
£220 ? I highly doubt that unless you have something silly like a £800 excess. KEV
I'm 35 and have been driving almost 20 years with 13 years NCB and get £380-ish with I think £250 excess.KEV
THAT REMINDS ME OF A CONVERSATION WE HAD :grin: :grin: :grin: NOW SAY SORRY SIMON FOR BEING SUCH A DOUBTING THOMAS(KEV) :drool:
To be honest simon, ever since I joined here I've had people doubt everything I've said, including when and even if I was ordering a GTi. Doubting what me and misses now pay for insurance is a walk in the park compared to the pish I've had to endure. If it makes you happier, I just made up the whole thing, it wasnt £198. It was, erm, i dono, lets say £450. Better now ?
Insurance company is sending the documents by special delivery for tomorrow, it will be sent direct to the garage and will be with them between 9 and 1pm - Good news there.Full no claims,driving 20 years,first company i tried £220 fully comp on my new gti mk6 due in aug, there are some perks to being 30 something. SIMON
Also, with a name switch on our insurance, misses down as main driver and me as 2nd driver, the GTi insurance for us is £198 for the year. Not too shabby.
£220 ? I highly doubt that unless you have something silly like a £800 excess. KEV
I'm 35 and have been driving almost 20 years with 13 years NCB and get £380-ish with I think £250 excess.KEV
THAT REMINDS ME OF A CONVERSATION WE HAD :grin: :grin: :grin: NOW SAY SORRY SIMON FOR BEING SUCH A DOUBTING THOMAS(KEV) :drool:
To be honest simon, ever since I joined here I've had people doubt everything I've said, including when and even if I was ordering a GTi. Doubting what me and misses now pay for insurance is a walk in the park compared to the pish I've had to endure. If it makes you happier, I just made up the whole thing, it wasnt £198. It was, erm, i dono, lets say £450. Better now ?
i bet your real name isn't even Kev...
I can't believe Herbie has waited so long. :shocked:This is my 1st VW. I think most dealers allocate their cars to previous customers 1st or someone who keep harrassing them every week about their build week.
Here Kev, I believe your insurance :laugh: I was quoted £240 fully comp with £250XS
Anyway I bet you are praying the post office don't strike tomorrow like they say they are!!!
I'd phone VW insurance at 9 when it opens and you could have the car for 10 as they do it all via email.
Its free and its why it is there...use it :wink:
Maybe they are hoping a return favour when their cat/dog got sick. You might able to offer them a decent discount!
I don`t doubt what you are paying for your insurance :grin: when i told you 3 months ago i was quoted 230 fully comp you doubted me that was the whole point of my post,look in the insurance topic for the mk6 and then come back and say sorry :wink:
Thank you it takes a bigger man to say sorry :laugh: enjoy your new car and check for the covers behind the front fog lights under the front wheel arches
So back on topic 6 pages laterAny other August or even September orders to add?
So far we have (i think)
JULY
JAM July 1st BW 38 (arrived 24th Sep)
HERBIE911 July 3rd BW 41
ROLFE July 7th BW 35 (arrived)
SPARTICUS July 7th BW 42
VW KEV July 21st BW 40 (arrived)
GAZDEBAZ July 22nd BW 42
DONNIEDARKO July 30th BW n/a
AUGUST
MDSS MK6 Aug 12th BW 49 (not confirmed)
FREAKINSWEET Aug 12th BW 44
LIVERLEGEND Aug (mid?) BW 48
SNOOPY Aug 20th BW 48 (not confirmed)
STEVEN_9709 Aug 22nd BW 47
MB26 Aug 27th BW 47 (confirmed)
The later the better.
Hi Everyone
I ordered mine on 15th August (with ACC, xenons, 18" monzas', RCD 510 + dynoaudio, DAB, luxury pack & leather). Since then I've had a couple of calls from the dealer in St Albans (one two weeks ago and one yesterday) saying the same thing- "the car's still in production" even though I'm not quite sure what that means :undecided:
I don't know what they meen either. Best bet if they phone you back again is ask for the VW commision number. That way you can phone someone at VW customer service for a true update.
Hi Everyone
I ordered mine on 15th August (with ACC, xenons, 18" monzas', RCD 510 + dynoaudio, DAB, luxury pack & leather). Since then I've had a couple of calls from the dealer in St Albans (one two weeks ago and one yesterday) saying the same thing- "the car's still in production" even though I'm not quite sure what that means :undecided:
i'd expect that its waiting to be built rather than "in production" - production itself is only a matter of days (4-5 days iirc)
^Only a week or two to go then. You jammy so and so :grin: :wink:
ive rang them about 3 times since aug 17th (latest being yesterday), but i will probably be buggin them much more nearer the build week! :evil:
^i think i may wait another week then before phoning. I was told by my dealer it is normally confirmed 4 to 5 weeks before its actual build week.
Got a call from my dealer. The car is currently on a boat on its way to England. It will take another 2-3 days for it to be transported over to my local dealer. I might able to pick up the car by the end of next week.
Hope they got the colour and spec right! Can't imagine if I reject the car how long I have to wait for another one!!
ive rang them about 3 times since aug 17th (latest being yesterday), but i will probably be buggin them much more nearer the build week! :evil:
I'd just ask them for the comm number, which for me is six digits. I wouldn't worry, it's not harrassing them, it shows geniune interest (you don't ask, you don't get). At the end of the day you are the customer, they are there to provide a service. It also keeps them on their toes. :wink:
I've just rung VW Customer Care (08000 833 914) for an update on mine and it's still scheduled for week 48 (but not yet confirmed). :sad:
I ordered a 3 door with DSG, 18's and winter pack on July 17th. Got build date of wk38, then got confirmed at wk40, then reconfirmed at wk43 got told yesterday it was at final inspection so should be on a boat soon....fingers crossed....
I am more worry about pirates!Got a call from my dealer. The car is currently on a boat on its way to England. It will take another 2-3 days for it to be transported over to my local dealer. I might able to pick up the car by the end of next week.
Hope they got the colour and spec right! Can't imagine if I reject the car how long I have to wait for another one!!
Mine might be on the same boat, was told a few days ago it was waiting at the docks.
NB I hope they are tied down well, It's a bit rough here in the North Sea at the moment.
I ordered a 3 door with DSG, 18's and winter pack on July 17th. Got build date of wk38, then got confirmed at wk40, then reconfirmed at wk43 got told yesterday it was at final inspection so should be on a boat soon....fingers crossed....Was it the dealer who told you it was confirmed or VW customer service. Was this confirmed within 4 to 5 weeks of its confirmed build week date if not its not officially factory confirmed.
Quick update... Or not - :cry: still no build date despite telling dealer I'm considering getting my money back. I've seen a BMW 330 auto leather for 25k with 3k on the clock which I could have this side of ever... :cool:Ask your dealer for the VW commision number, then you can phone vw customer service and find out the real story of whats been going on. If he does not give you the number then i would walk.
Only spoke to dealer. They gave me the factory order number at the end of July so I could speak to customer services but I never did. Got told wk38 by end of July, rang on Sept 11th and they said it had changed and was confirmed for wk 40, rang Oct 2nd and got told it had changed to wk 43 didn't ask why. Will also add that when we were deciding between this and a Focus RS the 6 week delivery time the dealer quoted us at the beginning of July swung the decision abit....... Now when we order a R in about 18 months we'll be visiting a different dealer... And perhaps do a little more research LOLI ordered a 3 door with DSG, 18's and winter pack on July 17th. Got build date of wk38, then got confirmed at wk40, then reconfirmed at wk43 got told yesterday it was at final inspection so should be on a boat soon....fingers crossed....Was it the dealer who told you it was confirmed or VW customer service. Was this confirmed within 4 to 5 weeks of its confirmed build week date if not its not officially factory confirmed.
Was the spec the reason it changed shortage of parts etc. Sunroof and Xenons have earlier in the year cause delays.
What a pile of crud. All this talk got me calling customer services just to make sure that my confirmed build week 47 was still good. Apparently now it hasn't got a confirmed build at all. All they can say is that I'll have the car by Xmas. I will never be buying another new factory ordered VW. By the time I get it the Mk7s will be available to order!!i think you might need a tissue. i got mine within 2 weeks from my order in august- no joke. i couldnt wait 45 wks! afterall its exactly what i wanted anyways. if i was using it as my main car i'd probably get it specced up a bit more, like everyone else here. dont blame vw- they aint some cheap mass production co like nissan who make cars every second. vw's biggest sellers is the basic golf- they aint going to make millions of gti's. at least you'd know it was built well. i wouldnt be so happy with a 5 minute (guess) car like they do at nissan. service aint so good- it depends on the dealer. they used to give bouquet of flowers few yrs ago, now you get nothing- not even a full tank unless you're haggle. btw usually next mark ie, mark 7 usually comes every 6 yrs or so...
i wouldnt be so happy with a 5 minute (guess) car like they do at nissan.No need to dis Nissan factory like that imo i know plenty who work there, and i know first hand how the place operates. Mind it depends which of the factorys your talking about as i also have knowledge of some of there overseas factorys/QC which are not all the same.
i know ppl that work there too being in sunderland. nissan like most japanese firms are one of the most efficient production companys in the world. their line assembly is the best. but the quality of build of a vw imo is slightly better than a nissan- but nissans efficiency of its production is ultimately its downfall- with thousands of stock cars park around the uk gathering dust due to the economic crash.i wouldnt be so happy with a 5 minute (guess) car like they do at nissan.No need to dis Nissan factory like that imo i know plenty who work there, and i know first hand how the place operates. Mind it depends which of the factorys your talking about as i also have knowledge of some of there overseas factorys/QC which are not all the same.
Though in Norway you have a higher standard of living, amazing scenary and of course, stunning women!!
Though in Norway you have a higher standard of living, amazing scenary and of course, stunning women!!
haha - already lookin forward to the pics :wink:
Latest update: i got my comm number and spoke to VW customer service who told me the same thing as my dealer that it is still BW48 unconfirmed, however the only difference was that VW customer service said shipping can take upto 8 weeks!!!!(to allow for winter conditions), but the dealer is still confident to get it for xmas if it is built week 48!
i just hope it all goes to the dealers plan! :rolleyes:
haha - already lookin forward to the pics :wink:
Latest update: i got my comm number and spoke to VW customer service who told me the same thing as my dealer that it is still BW48 unconfirmed, however the only difference was that VW customer service said shipping can take upto 8 weeks!!!!(to allow for winter conditions), but the dealer is still confident to get it for xmas if it is built week 48!
i just hope it all goes to the dealers plan! :rolleyes:
Hmmm - build weeks are confirmed 4-5 weeks before actual build, i'd check again on Friday as a BW48 car should be confirmed this week latest. Checked mine and i'm the same, BW48 unconfirmed, same position as when i checked last week.
i will remain optimistic and hope i am told it is confirmed BW48 no later than the end of week 45! :laugh:
Just been informed car is at Grimbsy, should arrive at dealers possibly Friday. Collect maybe Saturday or early next week.
:grin: :grin: :grin:
ordered Aug 1st, recently given provissional build week 49. Just recieved lettler from "friendly" Sales manager at my stealers- Anticipated Delivery Date Feb/March 2010.
:angry:
Oh dear...................
ordered Aug 1st, recently given provissional build week 49. Just recieved lettler from "friendly" Sales manager at my stealers- Anticipated Delivery Date Feb/March 2010.
:angry:
Oh dear...................
ordered Aug 1st, recently given provissional build week 49. Just recieved lettler from "friendly" Sales manager at my stealers- Anticipated Delivery Date Feb/March 2010.Order my car 5/7/09. Told the car was shipped 2 weeks ago. Rung stealers today to find out why no news. The girl on the phone said the car sales who dealt with me had gone on holiday but the sale 'MANAGER' will ring me to update me. Guess what, no call whatsoever! :angry: No good if you are trying to market a golf gti as a premium brand!
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Oh dear...................
^ Good grief! I confirmed my order on 8th July (visited dealer and got quote on the evening of 7th July) and I've been driving the car for six weeks!
And I think I just about won the "who got the best discount" sweep, so it wasn't as if I was paying full price. And I had a sunroof and ACC as well.
I can't understand why it's so variable.
Rolfe.
I got my car via an internet broker which meant that I dealt with the fleet side of a VW dealer. What a refreshing change. Totally down to earth, he actually did what I asked and no hard sell on anything at all. I had to ask him about the service pack, autoshine etc!
On top of that I got an instant discount wihtout having to haggle and a build week straight that didn't move (car actually came early!).
I would recommend using a broker again.
Rolfe - you did very well, ordered ata time wen business was a lot less secure and by the sounds of it you grabbed a car the dealer already had coming through the system, albeit perhaps in its early stages.
SPARTICUS July 7th BW 42
SPARTICUS July 7th BW 42
Mine was ordered 10th July Build week 42 got it in my mits on Tuesday last week 27th 16 weeks down the line..
When the water stops falling from above (live in Scotland where its either raining or wet! :cry:) and I get a chance to roll up my sleeve's and clean it I will put on some pics..
When the water stops falling from above (live in Scotland where its either raining or wet! :cry:) and I get a chance to roll up my sleeve's and clean it I will put on some pics..
Live in Scotland as well, been chucking it down all day.
Hope it's a bit drier tomorrow when we pick up the car, so we can give it a proper look over. :cool:
Got mine for Arnold Clark on the Kilmarnock Rd Glasgow...............
Got mine for Arnold Clark on the Kilmarnock Rd Glasgow...............
I went in there for a quote with the VW options finance printed out. Asked the salesman what was the best finance he could get me. He came back with a monthly figure a lot more than what VW were offering me on line.
I told him about the VW options and he said his figure couldn't be beaten.
I produced the printed VW Options figure and he started to squirm and make up some c0ck and bull story. Needless to say I went elsewhere for the car.
Maybe he was having a bad day :grin:
I'm not sure. Just ripped up his card the other day as well.
Well done for saving some money. That's quite a saving.
Went down to my local Stealers today---confirm my car will be available for pick-up this friday.
Hard to believe they are going to charge me £90 to fit my Fiscon!!! Their excuse is that they don't have their own autoelectrician. Don't know whether I can trust someone non-Vw trained to service my car in the future!
Hurrrruuuuummmmpppphhhhhhh!! Just got an email update, put back to first week of 2010, delivery end of jan! Not a happy camper :evil: Especially as I'd arranged to sell my audi to a modification understanding mate, and he's picking her up tomorrow ffs (I was originally promised end nov delivery, so a few weeks on shank's pony seemed ok :rolleyes:)
Anyone know VW's policy on vat increases yet?
Just had the call - arriving on Friday.
Ordered - July 7th
Delivery - November 6th
Hope it is worth the waiting - 17 weeks
Will post some pics on Friday
Just had the call - arriving on Friday.I am picking mine up this friday as well. I will do a pre-delivery inspection tomorrow (I am not paying the full balance til everything is perfect!) Hope they can sort my Fiscon out before than!
Ordered - July 7th
Delivery - November 6th
Hope it is worth the waiting - 17 weeks
Will post some pics on Friday
Went down to my local Stealers today---confirm my car will be available for pick-up this friday.Don't worry about it alot of dealers have approved places they use without even telling there customers. You will probably find your dealer has an agreement with a local Car audio/alarm place that fits these types of things day in day out and will have 1 gazillion times more idea of what there doing than the semi skilled monkey that works at a franchise dealership.
Hard to believe they are going to charge me £90 to fit my Fiscon!!! Their excuse is that they don't have their own autoelectrician. Don't know whether I can trust someone non-Vw trained to service my car in the future!
^if you look at page 23 of this thread (reply #224) you will see i posted the vat info already :wink: lol
Hi all - as promised, here is my update - just got off the phone from VW customer services and they have told me that it has been confirmed BW48 Wooop! - lets just hope it can not randomly be changed. i hope to get it just before xmas, if it takes max of 4 weeks from build date to when it is ready for collection! cant wait!!!!!!! :grin: :cool: :laugh:
^if you look at page 23 of this thread (reply #224) you will see i posted the vat info already :wink: lol
Hi all - as promised, here is my update - just got off the phone from VW customer services and they have told me that it has been confirmed BW48 Wooop! - lets just hope it can not randomly be changed. i hope to get it just before xmas, if it takes max of 4 weeks from build date to when it is ready for collection! cant wait!!!!!!! :grin: :cool: :laugh:
From Build week 42 to getting the car took just over 2 weeks, thats when the really dealer kicked in, they told me it was built, at the docks in Germany, it had landed and best of all when I could get it all with in the space of 2 weeks, Fingers crossed yours is the same. That even included transport to Glasgow.
Hi all - as promised, here is my update - just got off the phone from VW customer services and they have told me that it has been confirmed BW48 Wooop! - lets just hope it can not randomly be changed. i hope to get it just before xmas, if it takes max of 4 weeks from build date to when it is ready for collection! cant wait!!!!!!! :grin: :cool: :laugh:
From Build week 42 to getting the car took just over 2 weeks, thats when the really dealer kicked in, they told me it was built, at the docks in Germany, it had landed and best of all when I could get it all with in the space of 2 weeks, Fingers crossed yours is the same. That even included transport to Glasgow.
Wow! that is really good to hear. Week 48 is week commencing mon 23rd nov, so would you say it could be ready week commencing monday 7th or 14th dec?
p.s. hope you are enjoying your new car! :cool:
Just had the call - arriving on Friday.
Ordered - July 7th
Delivery - November 6th
Hope it is worth the waiting - 17 weeks
Will post some pics on Friday
Just had the call - arriving on Friday.
Ordered - July 7th
Delivery - November 6th
Hope it is worth the waiting - 17 weeks
Will post some pics on Friday
This still amazes me. I visited my dealer on 7th July, and confirmed my order by phone on 8th July.
Got it on 17th September, could have had it at the beginning of that week if I hadn't been on holiday. I suppose he may have had an open slot he didn't tell me about, but actually the other dealer I visited the previous week said about 13 weeks.
Must have seemed a long four months!
Rolfe.
Hopefully I'm wrong Snoopy but the same dealer that told me about VW taking the hit for the VW increase way back in September also told me that in general if your car has a build week of 49 or greater then it won't be completed until after the New Year!!Great a car built after the christmas party that they will not remember were they got upto after new year and miss stuff or just throw it together. Typical.
snoopy - hopefully they change the BW and you get it sooner and before xmas!It was actually one of the conditions i laid down before i signed the order. They were a) the order would be before the price rise and at the old price, b) It arrived before the end of the year to avoid the tax rise.
Out of curiosity how late can you change your spec ie add something? as at this rate i may change my mind.
@rolfe........sorry but if you mention that (apparently exceptional) fact again I may start to get annoyed. Well done, but this thread isn't a place to crow about your car, its for the rest of us to work out when we might finally get ours :rolleyes:
@rolfe........sorry but if you mention that (apparently exceptional) fact again I may start to get annoyed. Well done, but this thread isn't a place to crow about your car, its for the rest of us to work out when we might finally get ours :rolleyes:
Hopefully I'm wrong Snoopy but the same dealer that told me about VW taking the hit for the VW increase way back in September also told me that in general if your car has a build week of 49 or greater then it won't be completed until after the New Year!!Great a car built after the christmas party that they will not remember were they got upto after new year and miss stuff or just throw it together. Typical.
I would rather have week1 or 2 Im actually not that bothered if they want to start it after new year if i don't get charged anymore money. Its not like im going to have any decent weather to enjoy it. But then its getting near March by that time. Not going to be a new reg long at this rate.snoopy - hopefully they change the BW and you get it sooner and before xmas!It was actually one of the conditions i laid down before i signed the order. They were a) the order would be before the price rise and at the old price, b) It arrived before the end of the year to avoid the tax rise.
Out of curiosity how late can you change your spec ie add something? as at this rate i may change my mind.
@rolfe........sorry but if you mention that (apparently exceptional) fact again I may start to get annoyed. Well done, but this thread isn't a place to crow about your car, its for the rest of us to work out when we might finally get ours :rolleyes:
:grin: :grin: And please stop banging on about your now scrapped peugeot :rolleyes:
I have an update on my mid-August order.Ask him for the VW commision number and if you phone customer care they will let you know what build week its currently allocated.
Have been told it is unlikely to be built this year. The salesman said they build GTIs' in batches of 10-20 and that VW are favouring their home market at the moment who therefore get theirs delivered first. He could see my order but couldn't explain why things hadn't progressed as he'd expected.
Needless to say I was not impressed so am expecting a call back from VW tomorrow. They cautiously said there should be a financial discount as a result and that I may be able to make the use of one of the cars until mine turns up. If this works out, that seems a fair enough compromise to me until mine turns up I guess...offer of the use of the car seems good to me and financial i guess the question is by what amount. Whatelse i guess thats down to the dealer. Not sure if/what VW may offer, if anything.
Any suggestions as to what I should ask for when we're on the negotiation table would be much appreciated guys :smiley:
^ Good to hear. :cool: I have updated our table on the prvious page to show your cars status.
I was a bit disppointed that they parked my car in an area which is quite busy with other customers (service, MOT, Just browsing) :angry: In my previous purchase with other manufacturer, all new cars are parked well away from everybody else.
Updates added 04/11/09 21:50
Thanks guys nice to know how we are all doing.
I have removed the early july ones as they have now all arrived. :cool:
JULY
DONNIEDARKO July 30th BW n/a
AUGUST
DUNCREFLEX Aug na BW 49 (not confirmed)
MDSS MK6 Aug 12th BW 49 (not confirmed) Now week 01 :sad:
FREAKINSWEET Aug 12th BW 44 (Built & on its way)
H12 Aug 15th BW n/a
RJWOJCIK Aug 16th BW 48 (not confirmed) Now week 01 :sad:
MAKSTA Aug 17th BW 48 (confirmed)
LIVERLEGEND Aug (mid?) BW 48 (confirmed)
SNOOPY Aug 20th BW 48 (not confirmed) Now week 50 (not confirmed) :sad:
STEVEN_9709 Aug 22nd BW 46 (confirmed)
DENYASON Aug 24th BW n/a (arrived 7th Sep)
MB26 Aug 27th BW 47 (not confirmed) Now week 49 (confirmed sort of) :sad:
Just had an email from my dealer to say my car is currently being built!!!!
I had BW 46 (which I think is next week) so looks like I'm one of the lucky ones. Presumably, that status would have updated on Tuesday so maybe it's already been assembled!
Can't wait :laugh:
Yes, I have a copy of the official document VW sent to there UK dealers concerning week 45 :evil:
Afeter being told that I am now build week 50 and wouldn't get the car until mid January I have cancelled the order. I was told that I would get the car in 8 weeks from ordering which clearly hasn't been the case at all. It would have been nearly 5 months!!I understand exacly how you feel. :sad:
The GTIs are good but not that good. Not sure what I will do now but going to take a look at the 330i
Afeter being told that I am now build week 50 and wouldn't get the car until mid January I have cancelled the order. I was told that I would get the car in 8 weeks from ordering which clearly hasn't been the case at all. It would have been nearly 5 months!!I understand exacly how you feel. :sad:
The GTIs are good but not that good. Not sure what I will do now but going to take a look at the 330i
Afeter being told that I am now build week 50 and wouldn't get the car until mid January I have cancelled the order. I was told that I would get the car in 8 weeks from ordering which clearly hasn't been the case at all. It would have been nearly 5 months!!I understand exacly how you feel. :sad:
The GTIs are good but not that good. Not sure what I will do now but going to take a look at the 330i
I also feel your pain ! I've just received confirmation that mine is now due to be built in week 2 ... Have been told to expect a call from VW in the next couple of days re compensation although despite much hollow talk from them, I'm not overly optimistic.. I actually hope it slips by a couple of weeks now so it gets the new plates.I know exactly what you meen. I think if mine slips further and they offer compensation i think what i will ask for is they pay the extra vat and register it 1st March.
Me too :angry:I also feel your pain ! I've just received confirmation that mine is now due to be built in week 2 ... Have been told to expect a call from VW in the next couple of days re compensation although despite much hollow talk from them, I'm not overly optimistic.. I actually hope it slips by a couple of weeks now so it gets the new plates.I know exactly what you meen. I think if mine slips further and they offer compensation i think what i will ask for is they pay the extra vat and register it 1st March.
For me myself i feel its pointless to get it in the middle of winter with the bad conditions/roads so i will not mind the extra wait.
The funny thing is i was just this minute reading about the VAT and what car firms were doing about it from page 18 of autoexpress.If the car arrives early Feb I've asked the dealer if I can hold out for the 2010 plate and I will not pay extra VAT, they agreed.
If only VW was as good as Vauxhall and Ford with there offer :sad: as they those two say anyone buying this year will pay 2009 vat no matter when there vehicle is delivered. So unlike VW they have not ruled out letting there customers wait to register it for 1st march new reg due to there slow production!. :angry:
Any update news fromDUNCREFLEX, FREAKINSWEET, MAKSTA, LIVERLEGEND, STEVEN_9709 or MC_PHERS0N or any other August orders out there?
Any update news fromDUNCREFLEX, FREAKINSWEET, MAKSTA, LIVERLEGEND, STEVEN_9709 or MC_PHERS0N or any other August orders out there?
Hi all!F**k man that's a hell of a lot of opetions, it's gonna cost you a mint for sure. Do you really need all those? Will be a nice motor but!!
Been lurking for a while, well since about August anyway, when I ordered mine. So heres my first post!
I've been a long time GTI nut since 1993 when I picked up a Black Mk1 '79 V plate 1600 4 speed for £600 off a mate. That first GTI hooked me in and I've loved GTI's ever since. Over the years I've had (including that first) - 3xMk1's, 3xMk2's, 2xMk3's (one of those was a VR6 Highline) and my current Mk4 2.0 GTI. I've also had a Scirroco GTX and a Golf Diesel van!
I ordered a new Mk6 from Haywards Heath Caffyns on the 7th August this year, I specced it right up:
3 door
DSG
ACC
Cruise
Deep black pearl
Xenons
18"
Leather
Sunroof
Winter pack
Luxury pack
Rear view cam
RCD510
Initially I was told there would be a 12 week delivery time, so I should have been driving it by now! :( But using this site as my info backup and to pester my dealer, I've made sure that he knows that I know whats going on with new car orders from VW. After a couple of weeks I got an unconfirmed build week of 46, then 45, then 51. I rang today to see what the update was and it was bad news, shifted right back to week 02, and unconfirmed! I'm looking at perhaps a February delivery...
Still, when it arrives I'm sure the wait will be worth it.
Cheers
Spooner.
It was the 12th of August.Thanks :smiley:
7th August ........... After a couple of weeks I got an unconfirmed build week of 46, then 45, then 51. I rang today back to week 02,Thats moved about abit! :sad:
The Mk5/6 is best without any options, except the essential DSG.
F**k man that's a hell of a lot of opetions, it's gonna cost you a mint for sure. Do you really need all those? Will be a nice motor but!!
Thats moved about abit! :sad:
I also have a little worries about cars been built in the last week of December before they brake up for Christmas and the cars built the first week or so after the new year as the workers may not be at the top of there game for reasons im sure we all know. :sick:
Anyone asked about the VAT and if the 'offer' will include us August orders too. :undecided: :sad:
My dealer has assured me that the price quoted in August is what I'm paying on delivery day. Check with yours mate. I have to say a big thumbs up to mine, he's been stellar with his updates.Thanks i will try.
Cheers
Spooner
Can anyone tell me how long it has taken from when they recieved a confirmed BW to actually recieving their car. My BW is wk 1 still uncomfirmed. Dont know how long i can hold on for. Its painfull,and the Sciroco R looks tempting as does the golf R although that would be streaching a bit. I ordered Aug 17th.
Update from my dealer today: Car is built and is at the port in Emden awaiting shipping!!
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Great news. Here's hoping you'll be behind the wheel in a week or so's time!
Ava
Called my dealer today for a weekly update from the ordering system, he was on holiday this week, so I had to call VW customer services. Bad news, in fact terrible news! I dont have a build week anymore! I've gone back to "Factory Ordered" - Anyone else getting similar? I think its time for a strongly worded letter to head of VW UK Sales. :angry:
Called my dealer today for a weekly update from the ordering system, he was on holiday this week, so I had to call VW customer services. Bad news, in fact terrible news! I dont have a build week anymore! I've gone back to "Factory Ordered" - Anyone else getting similar? I think its time for a strongly worded letter to head of VW UK Sales. :angry:
Spooner, where did you order yours from? I was going to Crawley VW this weekend to speak with them about delivery dates.
Spooner, where did you order yours from? I was going to Crawley VW this weekend to speak with them about delivery dates.
I ordered mine from Caffyns by Haywards Heath train station. One of the titbits that he gave me the other week was that a guy ordered a GTD on the same day as me, he also has the same trouble with a fluctuating build date! I was also told that they couldnt submit any more orders for Golfs this year!
Ah right, i live in HH. I didn't get on with one of the sales guys there, almost got into a row. So took mine and my Mrs's business to Crawley. Their loss on my 26k and her 15k!
Just out of interest, who you dealing with down there?
Well I'll send you a PM......
Well I would send you a PM if I could find the function on this board!You need to make 10+ posts before the icon appears :wink:
Updates for 18/11/09 16:20
Thanks guys nice to know how we are all doing.
AUGUST
Spooner Aug 7th BW 46 Now BW02
Duncreflex Aug na BW 49 (unconfirmed)Mdss mk6 Aug 12th BW 49 Now BW01 (cancelled his order)
Freakinsweet Aug 12th BW 44 (Built & on its way)
Liverlegend Aug 12th BW 48 (confirmed)
H12 Aug 15th BW n/a Now BW02
Rjwojcik Aug 16th BW 48 Now BW01
Ivan Aug mid? BW 48 Now BW02
Ricksta Aug mid? BW 48 Now BW02
Maksta Aug 17th BW 48 (confirmed)
Devito Aug 17th BW 48 now BW01 (unconfirmed)
Snoopy Aug 20th BW 48 Now week BW50 (unconfirmed)
Steven_9709 Aug 22nd BW 46 (confirmed) Built awaiting shipment.
Mc_pherson Aug 22nd BW 48 (confirmed)
Denyason Aug 24th BW n/a (arrived 7th Sep)
Toon Aug 25th BW 48 (confirmed)MB26 Aug 27th BW 47 Now BW50 (Cancelled his order)
RickS Aug 29th BW 46 Now BW01 (unconfirmed)
JJH Aug 29th BW 49 Now BW04 (unconfirmed)
(http://mk6.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/Smileys/newsmileys/grouphug.gif)
I have now added your dads to the above list.
Do you know when he was quoted week 50?
update, ordered early august, unconfirmed build now 28th Dec. :sick:I know how you feel. :sad: :angry:
if VW don't pay VAT increase may cancel.
FEED UP!!!!!
it was the 26th not the 27th matey, and we were quoted build week 50 on october the 6th. He rang on the tuesday afternoon as he was told Volkswagen update there databases every tuesday. Why, what you thinking? :DSorry about that i simply coppied the line below in the list and thought i had edited the date. :embarassed:
Why you saying sorry? Don't worrie!!
With all these people cancelling the closer we move up the list!! :evil:
unfortunately it doesnt work that way, the dealers just sell them on it when it arrives...
I saw a white gtd 5dr today in the flesh with the stanard 17's, I aint cancelling either.... :cool:
waiting is sooo boring!
Update to my order - car had landed in the uk now, and all being well should be assigned a registration number on Monday, hoping to pick it up a week on Saturday :smiley:
How’s this possible? You ordered your car just 4 days before my dad and your cars built and in the country already?? And we've been told it’s unconfirmed and that we won't see the car till gone Feb, and possibly even longer.
What the hell’s going on?!
How’s this possible? You ordered your car just 4 days before my dad and your cars built and in the country already?? And we've been told it’s unconfirmed and that we won't see the car till gone Feb, and possibly even longer.
What the hell’s going on?!
Dealers and their allocation I would guess.
I would assume so, there's people that ordered before me that gave a later build week too. Guess it could also have something to do with the options you've specc'ed?
About to reject mine unfortunately....4 months old...engine issue from day 3....still haven't been able to fix it. Had spent a month in the workshop :sad:
When it's been working it's an superb car....hang in there.
Hi all
An update on my order. I had a message this morning from the dealers saying my car is still scheduled for wk 2 but this was prompted by me ringing them yesterday- which seems to be the norm. Apparently I should have a call on Monday once the salesman has discussed with his manager what they can do in the way of compensation but I heard the same patter 2 weeks ago and didn't get a response then.
The more I think about it, the more I'm swaying towards telling them I want it on 1st March with the new plates or I'll cancel the order. I make chicken out if push comes to shove as I love the GTI but it would be a kick in the teeth to get a new car only a couple of weeks before the new reg comes out :cry:
Hi all
An update on my order. I had a message this morning from the dealers saying my car is still scheduled for wk 2 but this was prompted by me ringing them yesterday- which seems to be the norm. Apparently I should have a call on Monday once the salesman has discussed with his manager what they can do in the way of compensation but I heard the same patter 2 weeks ago and didn't get a response then.
The more I think about it, the more I'm swaying towards telling them I want it on 1st March with the new plates or I'll cancel the order. I make chicken out if push comes to shove as I love the GTI but it would be a kick in the teeth to get a new car only a couple of weeks before the new reg comes out :cry:
I would def. dig my heels in too. Bet they were quick enough to relieve you of your deposit.
Can't believe some of the stuff that's been typed in this thread, what are VW playing at??
Thanks, do let us know how you get on. :smiley:
Hi all
An update on my order. I had a message this morning from the dealers saying my car is still scheduled for wk 2 but this was prompted by me ringing them yesterday- which seems to be the norm. Apparently I should have a call on Monday once the salesman has discussed with his manager what they can do in the way of compensation but I heard the same patter 2 weeks ago and didn't get a response then.
The more I think about it, the more I'm swaying towards telling them I want it on 1st March with the new plates or I'll cancel the order. I make chicken out if push comes to shove as I love the GTI but it would be a kick in the teeth to get a new car only a couple of weeks before the new reg comes out :cry:
Yep, I haven't disappeared :smiley:
I had no idea what I was starting with this thread, and I'm still disgusted by vw's attitude to some of their loyalist buyers. If I hadn't already sold my last car, I may have been more patient too, but my cancellation was also "on a point of principle". At first I thought I was just unlucky/paying the price for going via a broker, but the number of us here is appalling, and lets face it, we're just the tip of this iceberg! If you want to close this thread down snoopy, be my guest......and a big thank you for all the updates you've done!
Yep, I haven't disappeared :smiley:
I had no idea what I was starting with this thread, and I'm still disgusted by vw's attitude to some of their loyalist buyers. If I hadn't already sold my last car, I may have been more patient too, but my cancellation was also "on a point of principle". At first I thought I was just unlucky/paying the price for going via a broker, but the number of us here is appalling, and lets face it, we're just the tip of this iceberg! If you want to close this thread down snoopy, be my guest......and a big thank you for all the updates you've done!
Hope the new car is treating you well!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Must be getting friendly with the local filling station staff by now :laugh: