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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: 747_727 on 01 July 2011, 14:19
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Hi
Im new on here and Im thinking of getting an 8v gti as I need something more economical than my current car but I dont want to spend much and I dont really want a diesel as modern ones are to expensive and not very reliable so I was wondering what mpg you get out of your 8v gti's?
Also is there much difference in the mpg of the 16v's?
Thanks
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my 16v is doing 32mpg, not driven that hard at the moment though.
If your worried too much, get a diesel! My A4 is doing around the 50 mark! :-)
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my 8v is doing 40.2mpg since I bought my vr6 :grin:
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I'm getting on average 30 mpg :cry: hopefully to be sorted with the timing tomorrow :rolleyes:
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I drive my 8v pretty hard and its averaging between 28 to 35 mostly 32 mpg but if I drive it like my mom I would see about 40 I reakon.Mk3 tdis are pretty good cars and return awsome mpg im thinking of going derv myself now save some money..
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I'm getting on average 30 mpg :cry: hopefully to be sorted with the timing tomorrow :rolleyes:
I would say thats pretty average to get higher figures round town you really have to drive slow.
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i use mine to drive 12 miles to work, and 12 miles back every day, i see 38mpg out of it, this includes dual carriage way, and windy road driving, not a lot of stop start though.
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If I can get 38 mpg I would be happy.
Im getting married and buying a house and need to sell my e36 m3 and would like something reasonalble sporty but also something which will do at least 10 mpg more that what im getting now so an 8v gti looks the best bet.
Do they have a trip computer so you can see what you getting mpg wise without having to wait till you fill up?
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8v's are not that good on fuel, mine was 23 to 31, I am finding the vRS a lot better on fuel.
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my 8v was not very good TBH.. was in the 20's around town and on the motorway it was in 30's, could hit late 30s if i drove like a granny
if your after 38 round town then a GTI is not for you
the 16v car i had was about the same as the 8v if not a tad better
my S3 engine is better than them both !! work that one out LOL :undecided: :evil:
P.S they have a computer that tells you the MPG, doubt its 100% accurate tho but gives an idea
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I far from "drive like a granny" and mines still high, my trip computer reads 42.7 mpg for my driving, so I say around 38. The car has always been well serviced and maintained so this would have a positive effect.
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I far from "drive like a granny" and mines still high, my trip computer reads 42.7 mpg for my driving, so I say around 38. The car has always been well serviced and maintained so this would have a positive effect.
you don't drive like a granny and get 42.7? yeah righto :huh:
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I far from "drive like a granny" and mines still high, my trip computer reads 42.7 mpg for my driving, so I say around 38. The car has always been well serviced and maintained so this would have a positive effect.
id say your computer is not so accurate, mine was serviced as good as it could have been using only genuine parts
i only got high figures if i drove like a granny
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I've only got figures like that driving at constant 60.
Got the computer to read 50.1 mpg over 30 miles (mixed roads as well) when I really drove like a granny. So bored though :laugh:
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I'd say if fuel consumption is paramount an 8v is probably not the best choice, they're not bad but not great either.
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theres a difference between driving like a granny, not driving like a granny and red lining it everywhere...
in comparison to my old V6, this is amazing on fuel.
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Normal driving in mine around town 28-32. Motorway 35-40. 40mpg is sat at 70 over 128 miles. Those are pretty accurate and what you are likely to expect I think
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most 8v's are not economical averaging around 26-35 miles ,better off getting a diesel like me 50 mpg on a crap day and 67 on a good day. :wink: :grin: :smiley:
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most 8v's are not economical averaging around 26-35 miles ,better off getting a diesel like me 50 mpg on a crap day and 67 on a good day. :wink: :grin: :smiley:
I would rather get to where i'm going faster with less mpg :drool:
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I would add that its not a great idea to rely on the MFA as I don't think its that accurate. However, on a reasonably long run if I drive like I need a prescription windscreen I have seen 48mpg indicated, so I take that with a pinch of salt.
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Thanks for all your replys. Im little bit confused as what to mpg to expect from an 8v but as i will be driving 13 miles each way to work and 10 of those will be dual carriage way im hope to at least get 35 mpg if i stick to near 70mph. I just dont want to sell my m3 and get something that only does 5mpg more but have almost a third less power lol. My other option i was think of is a mg zs or zr diesel as they are good on fuel but im not sure i want one of those or not but the L series diesel is bullit proof but i bit old hat.
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Thanks for all your replys. Im little bit confused as what to mpg to expect from an 8v but as i will be driving 13 miles each way to work and 10 of those will be dual carriage way im hope to at least get 35 mpg if i stick to near 70mph. I just dont want to sell my m3 and get something that only does 5mpg more but have almost a third less power lol. My other option i was think of is a mg zs or zr diesel as they are good on fuel but im not sure i want one of those or not but the L series diesel is bullit proof but i bit old hat.
You will see a saving, I would also suggest a mk4 1.8t is worth looking.
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I'm getting on average 30 mpg :cry: hopefully to be sorted with the timing tomorrow :rolleyes:
I would say thats pretty average to get higher figures round town you really have to drive slow.
I commute bout 22 mile round trip, was getting 26 - 28 before service, got 29 - 30 after service, and now timing is spot on got 31.7 this morning :laugh:
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Thanks for all your replys. Im little bit confused as what to mpg to expect from an 8v but as i will be driving 13 miles each way to work and 10 of those will be dual carriage way im hope to at least get 35 mpg if i stick to near 70mph. I just dont want to sell my m3 and get something that only does 5mpg more but have almost a third less power lol. My other option i was think of is a mg zs or zr diesel as they are good on fuel but im not sure i want one of those or not but the L series diesel is bullit proof but i bit old hat.
You will see a saving, I would also suggest a mk4 1.8t is worth looking.
Are the 1.8 20v turbo engine's normally good on fuel? Better than the non turbo and 8v's? If so that could be a good idea.
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My 8v AGG is good on the motorway 40+, Crap around town 25 if im lucky.
My old Volvo got 16mpg on a good day.
My Allegro (sport) got 11/15 mpg inbetween head gaskets :grin:
Still petrol was about 50p per litre when I started :lipsrsealed:
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Still petrol was about 50p per litre when I started :lipsrsealed:
I remember being able to fill up a fiesta 1.3 supersport on £10 :rolleyes:
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Still petrol was about 50p per litre when I started :lipsrsealed:
I remember being able to fill up a fiesta 1.3 supersport on £10 :rolleyes:
haha the old SS, was a poor mans XR2 or the 8v of its generation :grin: :grin:
Still would have given my left gonad for one back in the day, I would have put £8 in her and bought 20 fags lol
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My 8v AGG is good on the motorway 40+, Crap around town 25 if im lucky.
Today I did 330 miles in mine which was almost all decent a-road & motorway, i'll fill up tomorrow & work out the real mpg but the mfa was showing an average of 42 :smiley:
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I personally dont see point in owning a GTI or anything performance related if you are gonna worry about fuel and MPG so much
get a derv....
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I personally dont see point in owning a GTI or anything performance related if you are gonna worry about fuel and MPG so much
get a derv....
sums it up really
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I personally dont see point in owning a GTI or anything performance related if you are gonna worry about fuel and MPG so much
get a derv....
sums it up really
Yep :afro: buy it, enjoy and drive it as it should be driven, hence why mine is sitting @ 22.4mpg at the moment :grin:.
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I bought my GTI 8v as a weekend toy and to do it up.
It needed a bit of work for the next MoT but I think I did a decent job as it passed yesterday with no advisories...WIN!
Anyway the point of my post is, I sold my work hack at end of May and have been looking about for soemthing a bit different to travel in yet get good economy.
I have been driving my GTI to work (60 mile round trip) on a mixture of country roads, High Streets and Motorways and it's costing me about £10 a day and the MPG is coming up at an average of 35mpg with a good thrashing on the motorway once warm.
Dan
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I bought my GTI 8v as a weekend toy and to do it up.
Mines a daily
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I bought my GTI 8v as a weekend toy and to do it up.
Mines a daily
Sorry, I fail to see your point.
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No point, just wish I could afford a weekend toy, plus 35 mpg is good
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Ah got you.
Well the Golf is turning more into a daily driver as I been on the hunt for what I want for a couple of months now really. Maybe I am to fussy
I love driving the Golf although I borrowed by mates MK1 Convertible yesterday while my car was in for its MoT and that was awesome fun!
Anyone has a Polo Breadvan for sale please let me know, I have a new project in the works!
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Sorry, didn't quite explain myself properly :embarassed:
It's a great drive, really enjoying it now, just trying to sort out some little niggles here and there, then hopefully will be able to rebuild my bike.
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My 8v gti Over the last 1200 miles I have seen an average of 28mpg mixture of roads. I don't drive it hard ( as it slow as....) they really aren't that fuel efficient, as was my Ibiza with the same engine. My 20vt Ibiza cupra was better if driven sensible. My bro's 16v gti seems to be more efficient and he drives like a dick :grin:
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My 8v gti Over the last 1200 miles I have seen an average of 28mpg mixture of roads. I don't drive it hard ( as it slow as....) they really aren't that fuel efficient, as was my Ibiza with the same engine. My 20vt Ibiza cupra was better if driven sensible. My bro's 16v gti seems to be more efficient and he drives like a dick :grin:
Thats my quote of the week :laugh:
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Took my MK3 Anni 8v for its first big run over the weekend, down to BugJam & Back! :cool:
Combined total milage of 440, used a full tank and a half!?!...But that did include some parked up/ticking over, so we could listen to music with some deep bass from the Sub :tongue:
So yeah, didn't really find it that economical but we were doing a steady 80-90 there and back, which is never gunna' make it that economical is it!? :laugh:
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Had mine 2 weeks now, with mostly town driving I'm getting an average of 28 mpg and 260 to a tank. My Audi 80 with the same engine got 23 mpg doing the same, so I'm happy :smiley:
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I read this post yesterday and im not sure what i am getting out of mine, so had a round trip today for about 20 mile, took my time, didn't go over 3000 revs and it was showing 28 mpg :shocked:
i wondered why im always at the petrol station :huh:
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I read this post yesterday and im not sure what i am getting out of mine, so had a round trip today for about 20 mile, took my time, didn't go over 3000 revs and it was showing 28 mpg :shocked:
i wondered why im always at the petrol station :huh:
did you reset it?
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I read this post yesterday and im not sure what i am getting out of mine, so had a round trip today for about 20 mile, took my time, didn't go over 3000 revs and it was showing 28 mpg :shocked:
i wondered why im always at the petrol station :huh:
did you reset it?
lol, i didn't mate, forgot about that :laugh: going to see again tomorrow
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41mpg with my 16valver on my 5 mile trip to the station this morning! Brucey bonus!
The best I've ever had was 44.1mpg on a run, barely touching the throttle and changing gear at 2krpm!
Forget 8valves.. 16valves = more power and more efficient! :grin:
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41mpg with my 16valver on my 5 mile trip to the station this morning! Brucey bonus!
The best I've ever had was 44.1mpg on a run, barely touching the throttle and changing gear at 2krpm!
Forget 8valves.. 16valves = more power and more efficient! :grin:
after owning gti 8v, gti 16v and vr6, the 16v is bottom for town driving. 16v I had to keep it in second gear for slow driving, where as gti 8v on same route I can leave it in 3rd and vr6 just leave it in 4th lol
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
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I got 45.9 out of mine :D
Avergae though is 35ish
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Lately I've seen 35 mpg on the way to work, 11 mile trip, but having put £100 in the tank have only got approx 400 mile from it.
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Im doing a average of 27 miles to the gallon lol.
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
yawn
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
yawn
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Gonna miss the 1.6 engine I think, can't believe how well it pulls really around town, BETTER then the 2l 8v. Although it runs out of power at 3.8K revs then comes back on at 4.5K. :huh:
The VR I was driving the other day round town pulled fine in any gear but the MPG. :shocked:
2l 8V is a good engine for me ATM purely because I do a lot of motorway and A road driving and in 5th gear it just pulled at 50-70MPH and just cruised along. Plus was good round town cause you could just cruise along in 4th at 30 and put your foot down on hills and it would pull. Although, honestly this 1.6 will outpull the 2l 8v up hills in 5th when the 2l is in 4th. Dunno how that works. :grin:
Can't really comment on the 16v as I've driven one once and thought it was the quickest car ever, but I was 17 and had my license for a month. :grin:
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don't get me wrong the 16v is quicker than a 8v.
It's just low down the rev range a 16v doesn't work as well. It's like 125cc 2stoke, they don't work unless there in the power-band.
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Lately I've seen 35 mpg on the way to work, 11 mile trip, but having put £100 in the tank have only got approx 400 mile from it.
:shocked:Yikes...i can get 200 miles out of £30 worth without too much trouble.
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Lately I've seen 35 mpg on the way to work, 11 mile trip, but having put £100 in the tank have only got approx 400 mile from it.
:shocked:Yikes...i can get 200 miles out of £30 worth without too much trouble.
Well I've had the maf off this weekend to give it a clean, and cleaned the throttle body. So will see what difference that makes
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and don't forget lamda sensor
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
yawn
The type of thing a child writes when they have nothing intelligent to write :rolleyes:
don't get me wrong the 16v is quicker than a 8v.
It's just low down the rev range a 16v doesn't work as well. It's like 125cc 2stoke, they don't work unless there in the power-band.
Frankly that is just bull.
As argued on many, many forums, at no point does a mk3 8v make more torque or power than a 16v - why is that hard to understand?! If an 8v making less power and torque than a 16v (at any part of the rev range) is perfectly driveable at lower speeds in high gears, why on earth would a 16v be any different. It's such a pointless argument. Ergo my comment about your 16v possibly not being in the best condition/running right. If it is, there is NO reason why you cant drive it in top gear at lower speeds.
If you are trying to hammer the engine at low speeds in a high gear then of course it is going to struggle - right gear for the right situation of course - and that is where the 16v excels. Perfectly driveable, like the 8v at lower speeds, but so much more to offer when you do want to go somewhere = where the 8v is puffless.
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
yawn
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Gonna miss the 1.6 engine I think, can't believe how well it pulls really around town, BETTER then the 2l 8v. Although it runs out of power at 3.8K revs then comes back on at 4.5K. :huh:
The VR I was driving the other day round town pulled fine in any gear but the MPG. :shocked:
2l 8V is a good engine for me ATM purely because I do a lot of motorway and A road driving and in 5th gear it just pulled at 50-70MPH and just cruised along. Plus was good round town cause you could just cruise along in 4th at 30 and put your foot down on hills and it would pull. Although, honestly this 1.6 will outpull the 2l 8v up hills in 5th when the 2l is in 4th. Dunno how that works. :grin:
Can't really comment on the 16v as I've driven one once and thought it was the quickest car ever, but I was 17 and had my license for a month. :grin:
This is interesting because it brings into the mix the different gearing of the respective GTI gearboxes. The mk3 8v GTI probably has gearing more suited to the limited torque and power available to it, designed to get the best out of the engine. It may feel more driveable at lower speeds because of this, but the 16v still makes more torque and power and is perfectly suited to driving at 30-40mph in 5th, I do it all the time.
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
yawn
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Gonna miss the 1.6 engine I think, can't believe how well it pulls really around town, BETTER then the 2l 8v. Although it runs out of power at 3.8K revs then comes back on at 4.5K. :huh:
The VR I was driving the other day round town pulled fine in any gear but the MPG. :shocked:
2l 8V is a good engine for me ATM purely because I do a lot of motorway and A road driving and in 5th gear it just pulled at 50-70MPH and just cruised along. Plus was good round town cause you could just cruise along in 4th at 30 and put your foot down on hills and it would pull. Although, honestly this 1.6 will outpull the 2l 8v up hills in 5th when the 2l is in 4th. Dunno how that works. :grin:
Can't really comment on the 16v as I've driven one once and thought it was the quickest car ever, but I was 17 and had my license for a month. :grin:
This is interesting because it brings into the mix the different gearing of the respective GTI gearboxes. The mk3 8v GTI probably has gearing more suited to the limited torque and power available to it, designed to get the best out of the engine. It may feel more driveable at lower speeds because of this, but the 16v still makes more torque and power and is perfectly suited to driving at 30-40mph in 5th, I do it all the time.
Perhaps, yes. Maybe it's due to the fact the 1.6 is purely a town car, so the ratios are built for that?
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Sorry, i think your wrong, i've driven a lot of different cars over the past 22 years and a lot of properly fast stuff too, i haven't driven a 16v although i have a relative who has one so i'm going to get hold of him for a test drive, but my 8v feels good to drive, it's quick off the mark pulls really strongly through the gears and doesn't feel at all gutless.
16v v 8v yet again, well i think a lot depends on the driver and how well maintained the car is so i reckon there's not much in it for everyday driving on everyday roads.
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FFS.
The 16V is QUICKER then the 8v END OF STORY.
Everyone needs to stop with the 8v being quicker round town quicker this, quicker my arse.
It's just down to what you prefer and everyone is gonna prefer the 16v.
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FFS.
The 16V is QUICKER then the 8v END OF STORY.
Everyone needs to stop with the 8v being quicker round town quicker this, quicker my arse.
It's just down to what you prefer and everyone is gonna prefer the 16v.
Nope don't agree.
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FFS.
The 16V is QUICKER then the 8v END OF STORY.
Everyone needs to stop with the 8v being quicker round town quicker this, quicker my arse.
It's just down to what you prefer and everyone is gonna prefer the 16v.
Nope don't agree.
Why?
How is the 8v in anyway quicker then the 16v?
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On paper and on a dyno or even a track i'm sure the 16v will be quicker, but on a normal road with a normal driver i don't think there is much in it thats all.
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On paper and on a dyno or even a track i'm sure the 16v will be quicker, but on a normal road with a normal driver i don't think there is much in it thats all.
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Khare, you've done both, tuned both, what is the best?
There is NO WHERE the 8v will be quicker in real life.
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On paper and on a dyno or even a track i'm sure the 16v will be quicker, but on a normal road with a normal driver i don't think there is much in it thats all.
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Khare, you've done both, tuned both, what is the best?
There is NO WHERE the 8v will be quicker in real life.
I'm sure there are owners on here who know better than me, but i base my view on driving a lot of different cars of varying capability and power outputs, i'll get myself a go in a 16v and see for myself.
BTW i'm not claiming the 8v will pee all over a 16v, just that it won't get away easily either.
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My point is after having 8v 16v vr6 is that around town the 8v and vr6 are easier to drive because you don't have to drop it down into 2nd gear. driving through my town center, there is some small tight bends and in the 16v I had to use 2nd, whereas the 8v and vr6 I can leave in 3rd and 4th. nothing about whats faster.
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Your 16v probably wasnt working properly then, mine will quite happily sit at 30mph in 5th gear and pull along nicely, even after having the flywheel lightened.
yawn
The type of thing a child writes when they have nothing intelligent to write :rolleyes:
don't get me wrong the 16v is quicker than a 8v.
It's just low down the rev range a 16v doesn't work as well. It's like 125cc 2stoke, they don't work unless there in the power-band.
Frankly that is just bull.
As argued on many, many forums, at no point does a mk3 8v make more torque or power than a 16v - why is that hard to understand?! If an 8v making less power and torque than a 16v (at any part of the rev range) is perfectly driveable at lower speeds in high gears, why on earth would a 16v be any different. It's such a pointless argument. Ergo my comment about your 16v possibly not being in the best condition/running right. If it is, there is NO reason why you cant drive it in top gear at lower speeds.
If you are trying to hammer the engine at low speeds in a high gear then of course it is going to struggle - right gear for the right situation of course - and that is where the 16v excels. Perfectly driveable, like the 8v at lower speeds, but so much more to offer when you do want to go somewhere = where the 8v is puffless.
Have you had a 8v gti, 16v gti and vr6? And then drove the same route daily for years? all I said was I can leave my 8v in 3rd where as I had to drop down to 2nd in my 16v because it was sluggish.
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I guess this is the point i was trying to make, not that the 8v is faster than the 16v ,of course it isn't just than in everyday driving with someone who knows the car behind the wheel there won't be much in it but it starts this 16v v 8v debate again which is pointless really.
So far as i can see if you want a good daily driver that won't break the bank either an 8v or 16v will do the job but the 16v's are a bit rarer and command higher prices so to settle for a tidy well looked after 8v is a good compromise and if you want the fastest and can afford it you'll have a VR6.
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I guess this is the point i was trying to make, not that the 8v is faster than the 16v ,of course it isn't just than in everyday driving with someone who knows the car behind the wheel there won't be much in it but it starts this 16v v 8v debate again which is pointless really.
So far as i can see if you want a good daily driver that won't break the bank either an 8v or 16v will do the job but the 16v's are a bit rarer and command higher prices so to settle for a tidy well looked after 8v is a good compromise and if you want the fastest and can afford it you'll have a VR6.
Fair point.
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I guess this is the point i was trying to make, not that the 8v is faster than the 16v ,of course it isn't just than in everyday driving with someone who knows the car behind the wheel there won't be much in it but it starts this 16v v 8v debate again which is pointless really.
So far as i can see if you want a good daily driver that won't break the bank either an 8v or 16v will do the job but the 16v's are a bit rarer and command higher prices so to settle for a tidy well looked after 8v is a good compromise and if you want the fastest and can afford it you'll have a VR6.
Fair point.
I have both but can't afford it :grin: :grin:
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What you guys need is 20 valves and a turbo :wink:
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The only golf i'd swap mine for is a mk1 campaign.
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i've just managed 400 miles out of a full tank for the first time !!!! :laugh: was not driving like a biddy either.
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On paper and on a dyno or even a track i'm sure the 16v will be quicker, but on a normal road with a normal driver i don't think there is much in it thats all.
Wrong :rolleyes: a 16v is a lot quicker.
8v is 9.8 secs 0-60, 16 will do it in 8.1
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On paper and on a dyno or even a track i'm sure the 16v will be quicker, but on a normal road with a normal driver i don't think there is much in it thats all.
Wrong :rolleyes: a 16v is a lot quicker.
8v is 9.8 secs 0-60, 16 will do it in 8.1
What he said. I have 8v bro has 16v Driven both considerably, it really is night & day.
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Can't be bothered to argue anymore :sad:
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Tbf they're both slow, its just that the valver isn't quite as slow as the 8v...marginally.
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What you guys need is 20 valves and a turbo :wink:
oh no it isn't, you want 6 cylinders 12 valves and a turbo :wink:
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Tbf they're both slow, its just that the valver isn't quite as slow as the 8v...marginally.
True you only have to look @ the 1.8t too see how far things have moved on.
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
not all of them. a mk4 is 150 bhp and 180 bhp
s3 is 225 and a a4 can be 130
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
not all of them. a mk4 is 150 bhp and 180 bhp
s3 is 225 and a a4 can be 130
And with a remap any of them will p!ss on a 16v Mk3 :grin:
**Edit, with the exception of Glen's or any turbo'd 16v :laugh:
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
not all of them. a mk4 is 150 bhp and 180 bhp
s3 is 225 and a a4 can be 130
And with a remap any of them will p!ss on a 16v Mk3 :grin:
**Edit, with the exception of Glen's or any turbo'd 16v :laugh:
mk4 gti 1.8 20v non turbo.....125bhp, fit a turbo and only gain 25hp :huh: they all should be 180 standard.
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
not all of them. a mk4 is 150 bhp and 180 bhp
s3 is 225 and a a4 can be 130
And with a remap any of them will p!ss on a 16v Mk3 :grin:
**Edit, with the exception of Glen's or any turbo'd 16v :laugh:
mk4 gti 1.8 20v non turbo.....125bhp, fit a turbo and only gain 25hp :huh: they all should be 180 standard.
Marketing reasons, by keeping the 180/225bhp lumps to only a few choices they could charge a premium etc, I have a 180bhp and it feels much stronger over a 150bhp tbh.
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
not all of them. a mk4 is 150 bhp and 180 bhp
s3 is 225 and a a4 can be 130
I know... Lol hence the reason for putting standard and (150) in my post :nerd:
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Finally got the golf on the road - was getting 33 - 35 mpg on the motor at 70mph.
Anyone have any tips for the driving on the motorway for the golf. My other car (smaller engine - seat) is very good on mpg at 60 mph.
The golf feels better when doing 70mph than 60mph?
Thanks
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I drive my gti 90 miles a day on mixed roads. i find if i stick to less than 65mph the economy is much improved. the mfa shows 42-44mpg, which isnt accurate, but equates to about 420 miles a tank. I do service mine regulary though and the temp sensor was replaced not long ago. Worth keeping an eye on tyre pressures too.
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I drive my gti 90 miles a day on mixed roads. i find if i stick to less than 65mph the economy is much improved. the mfa shows 42-44mpg, which isnt accurate, but equates to about 420 miles a tank. I do service mine regulary though and the temp sensor was replaced not long ago. Worth keeping an eye on tyre pressures too.
Thanks I will try this - its not had a good run in 2 years. Took it on the motorway last night - got just over 30mpg sitting at 70. Took again this morning to work on the motorway and crept upto 35mpg. I will run some redex thoguh it at the week.
Are the temp sender know to cause crappy mpg?
Thanks
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Temp sensor can. also can recommend a throttle body and gentle maf clean. Then it depends on your driving style.
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I do 60 miles a day on country roads, dual carriageways and through two towns and achieve 36mpg daily and thats doing 50-60 on country roads traffic dependant and a few MPH over the limit on the dual carriageways. Normally just slap it in 5th gear most of the journey and the MPG goes up.
Doing this though means I have to give it an Italian tune up once a week :grin:
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Italian tuneup ftw :evil:
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This thread is full of fail!!
It's like saying "My big fat wife is quicker to the cakes then yours.."
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It's like saying "My big fat wife is quicker to the cakes then yours.."
Lol :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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hahaha lmfao.top reply
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lol.
Anyone noticed if redex makes any improvements to the MPG. The car has only been running for 24 hours in the past 2 and half years.
Thanks
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I'm not a big fan of redex myself , maybe others think differently but i think its a bit like oil additives if the car's well serviced and use reasonable quality petrol should be no need for redex.
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Mine gets..
32 MPG daily on small comutes - no motorways.
39 - 42 MPG on motorways.
37 MPG mixed.
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So is a standard 1.8T (150bhp) lol
not all of them. a mk4 is 150 bhp and 180 bhp
s3 is 225 and a a4 can be 130
And with a remap any of them will p!ss on a 16v Mk3 :grin:
**Edit, with the exception of Glen's or any turbo'd 16v :laugh:
mk4 gti 1.8 20v non turbo.....125bhp, fit a turbo and only gain 25hp :huh: they all should be 180 standard.
Apparentely the non turbo 20V cams have higher lift than the cams used in the 18T.
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lol.
Anyone noticed if redex makes any improvements to the MPG. The car has only been running for 24 hours in the past 2 and half years.
Thanks
Pretty pointless stuff tbh, The Doc & I dyno'd my mk3 with and without octane booster type thing and it made no difference whatsoever!
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lol.
Anyone noticed if redex makes any improvements to the MPG. The car has only been running for 24 hours in the past 2 and half years.
Thanks
I agree with Dom, redex etc only helps clean certain parts of the engine. Absolutely no improvement in mpg
Pretty pointless stuff tbh, The Doc & I dyno'd my mk3 with and without octane booster type thing and it made no difference whatsoever!
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Also the last rolling road day Her Doc hosted, had a MK6 I think that did a run on the rollling road with normal unleaded, and then re fuelled with high octane unleaded and it improved the horsepower by a massive 1.
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Also the last rolling road day Her Doc hosted, had a MK6 I think that did a run on the rollling road with normal unleaded, and then re fuelled with high octane unleaded and it improved the horsepower by a massive 1.
It was a Mk5 :wink:
Standard 95ron fuel:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/A5CEVRUN1.jpg)
Shell V-Power:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/A5CEVRUN2VPOWERFUEL.jpg)
It is worth noting that this car was standard and that had it been remapped there should be a noticeable difference between standard & premium fuel :smiley:
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Also the last rolling road day Her Doc hosted, had a MK6 I think that did a run on the rollling road with normal unleaded, and then re fuelled with high octane unleaded and it improved the horsepower by a massive 1.
It was a Mk5 :wink:
Standard 95ron fuel:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/A5CEVRUN1.jpg)
Shell V-Power:
(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/A5CEVRUN2VPOWERFUEL.jpg)
It is worth noting that this car was standard and that had it been remapped there should be a noticeable difference between standard & premium fuel :smiley:
Good memory Dom :smiley:
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just another way for fuel companies to make more money.
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Absolutely, on a standard car its just throwing money away!
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when i had my mk5 it was a 50 page debate in that section but i ran mine on 95ron and felt no difference when switching to 99, that wasnt just once either, i allowed the ecu to adjust etc and didnt feel any smoother or anything like that.
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well have ran it work a few times on the motorway in the past few days.
Managed 46 mpg on the motorway and when it has been running for a wee bit, sticks around 30+ mpg around town with the odd heavy foot
lol the sensor is probs duffed
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I've never seen mine read more than 35mpg and usual average is about 29mpg that includes a mixed drive.
my girlfriend has an 8v also (yes, his and hers) and she regularly gets 40+mpg on the clock and usually more than 30mpg average. We've both driven each others cars and get the same results with the car always reading similar mileage. Shes got 125k miles on hers and i've only got 82k on mine. So i'm guessing the engine needs to loosen up a bit
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Just done 1100 miles to Cornwall and back, average for the week with 2 runs of 380 miles at 70-80 non-stop and the rest stuck in A30 holiday traffic and cruising round Cornish country lanes with a few spells of driving like a k**bhead was 36.6, and on the motorway bits 40.4. In an old 2.0 petrol with 147k I think that's pretty decent really, bet I won't get anywhere near that when I get my VR6 :drool:
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Higher octane fuel is only any good for stopping highly strung turbo cars from detonating, it's like 'check your oil' posters at p/stations which could cause you to overfill your engine.
Oil company propaganda.
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My 16v runs a lot smoother and quieter on high octane fuel, especially the 99ron stuff from Tesco but then this is due to it running a more advanced timing set up since it was remapped.
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goes without saying the best mileage is smooth driving on the motorway.
recently drove 150 miles from London to Sherbourne averaging about 65mph and 2.0 8v was returning 45mpg. that was with me doris and a couple of heavy travel bags etc.
I've had pretty much bang on 50mpg out of it before but I nearly fell asleep in the process, you have to drive like an old nurse...
average i'd say 35-40 mpg but i also find that some fuels are different so that affects mileage - apparantly Tesco fuel for example has more 'crap' in it and less 'pure'...
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I've had pretty much bang on 50mpg out of it before but I fell asleep in the process and was dreaming
Fixed.
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I've had pretty much bang on 50mpg out of it before but I fell asleep in the process and was dreaming
Fixed.
Have to agree. 50mpg out of a Mk3 GTI is impossible. Unless you're in space were no force acts against you :grin:
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It's not impossible when you're been pushed down hill by a Veyron. :wink: