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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mortimerchris on 14 April 2013, 18:20
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Hi there,
I have so far manged to only speak to two dealers, one offered nothing (Ridgeway Reading) and one offered 3%.
I plan to buy the car for cash and have no trade in as my 'Roc is going back as on contract hire.
Any recommendations or suggestions appreciated as to the most likely and that offered to anyone already.
Thanks
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Vw Chester
Offer 600 off list on their website.
I got 2k off in total.
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Try 'drive the deal.com'.
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Hi there,
I have so far manged to only speak to two dealers, one offered nothing (Ridgeway Reading) and one offered 3%.
I plan to buy the car for cash and have no trade in as my 'Roc is going back as on contract hire.
Any recommendations or suggestions appreciated as to the most likely and that offered to anyone already.
Thanks
Broadspeed all the way. 9% discount can not be beaten by ANY dealer for the foreseeable. Might have to wait a bit longer for delivery, say 14 weeks, due to dealer allocation, but its gotta be worth it!
Gaz
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Hi there,
I have so far manged to only speak to two dealers, one offered nothing (Ridgeway Reading) and one offered 3%.
I plan to buy the car for cash and have no trade in as my 'Roc is going back as on contract hire.
Any recommendations or suggestions appreciated as to the most likely and that offered to anyone already.
Thanks
Broadspeed all the way. 9% discount can not be beaten by ANY dealer for the foreseeable. Might have to wait a bit longer for delivery, say 14 weeks, due to dealer allocation, but its gotta be worth it!
Gaz
After not finding the right model on the first site suggested broad speed is much cheaper! Thanks for the suggestion, makes those dealers offering 0 discount seem as arrogant as ever
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Does the broadspeed price include the £199 fee they charge the buyer (not sure whether the "price" is inclusinve of that fee or not. With no part ex then broker is the way to go. Also try the others, there are a fair few out there including "uknewcars".
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Tell you a funny story. I got £1150 off my 5 door DSG GTI, performance pack, leather, basic Nav, metallic paint, rear view camera.
But I could have got £1500 for sure off another dealer and I reckon I could have got free servicing thrown in on top. What happened was that I had already done the deal and then a few days later I was driving past another vw dealer with a friend and wanted to show him the mark 7 golf, so just for the heck of it I asked the dealer for a 3k discount of the GTI. He to and fro'd to his manager and eventually they agreed on £1500 off. But I didn't push them after that. I reckon I could've got another £300-£400 for sure.
Dealers are basically 'bullsh!tters' to put it simply. I called an Audi dealer asking what deals they would do on the new S3, he was like "Nothing, you just won't get a discount on a car we'll easily sell" He then went on to say "I worked at VW until recently (the exact dealer I've ordered my car with btw) and I never gave a discount on a GTI in the 9 and a half years i worked there". What utter crap! I said I just got about £1200 off without even much negotiating. He was like "Wow I can't believe it" They just talk crap.
Do not settle for anything less than £1000 for sure. And push for £1500 at least. Best thing to do is simply spec your car and work out 5-6% off it and then say I've got this much. It's nice if the car is say £31,800 and you just say I only have an even 30k mate. And say, just tell me cos I need to go to the next dealer otherwise.
Good luck!
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Do not settle for anything less than £1000 for sure. And push for £1500 at least. Best thing to do is simply spec your car and work out 5-6% off it and then say I've got this much. It's nice if the car is say £31,800 and you just say I only have an even 30k mate. And say, just tell me cos I need to go to the next dealer otherwise.
The total list price of my 5 door GTi (DSG) came to £31k including options. The dealer was initially prepared to come down to £29,700 but after a little more haggling we settled on £29k (that is with finance @ 6.4% APR though). I was also lucky to blag an extra £2.5k on top of my part-exchange which was a real bonus. So there are deals to be had.
I don't know if this had anything to do with the fact that it was the end of the month & end of their quarter when I placed my order?
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Master/Gung-ho: You's 2 must have some desperate dealerships near you to be getting those kind of discounts on a car so new that it isn't even out yet. Great news on the discounts you have received. Both of you have added a few costly options - I do think there is more margin in those options than in the car itself, maybe partially why the level of discount is so good? I've never been one for loading up on the options which maybe why I get less of a discount (believe me, I haggle hard and try to play the local dealership groups off each other). It seems that in the Tyne/Wear area the new GTI and GTD are already much sought after which probably reduces the chance of discount somewhat whilst allocations remain tight. My supplying dealer has already had orders in for 4 GTDs and 3 GTIs (I know all of the people who have ordered GTDs and they got similar levels of discount/part ex allowance to me, at best).
If a VW dealership only has 1 of each per month allocated and they know that someone will walk in within the month and pay close to list price then they'd be daft to let it go at a discount.
There seems to be almost a reverse of the North/South divide when it comes to cars. There are far more new cars up around Tyne and Wear than there are down south (maybe not counting London and the home counties). This is mainly due to the cheaper cost of living and not having cripplingly huge mortgages. If you're in a reasonably paid job in the North East you've got far more disposable income. I have mates down in Southampton who earn more than me but drive around in bangers because of the size of their mortgage etc. As a result our dealerships are hives of activity most weekends. It's not unusual to have to wait an hour to speak to a salesman at the VW/Audi/BMW dealerships Saturday/Sunday. Our local dealerships are always doing well so there's less scope for desperation levels of discount.
Whatever your circumstances it's always better to ask for a discount and maybe get knocked back a little than not ask at all - "shy bairns get nowt".
I suppose all this means that maybe someone like me (in my location) has to look further afield for a deal. Having a part-ex is a hindrance to getting the absolute best deal and whatever you get, someone will always better it.
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There are discounts to be had. My order totalled £29,328 and I got them down to £28,188 (£1,140 discount). Now I know that I was the first to order from this particular dealer so that my have been a factor, but I still think you should be looking to get at least a grand off an order. Remember, you are doing THEM a favour - unless they have a queue outside the door for people ordering, they will be champing at the bit to gain a sale. To be honest, I probably could have got a bit more however the monthly payments got to where I wanted them to be so I was happy with the amount I got off.
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Master/Gung-ho: You's 2 must have some desperate dealerships near you to be getting those kind of discounts on a car so new that it isn't even out yet. Great news on the discounts you have received.
Thanks monkeyhangar! Believe you me I never expected this level of discount on a car that isnt even out yet. I suppose it helps when you know the sales guy, having bought two VW's from him in the past. In fact he was brutally honest in saying that new car sales in March were sluggish to say the least.
I like to haggle hard like yourself but I'm not always so successful! Tried getting a discount off the new M135i but they were having none of it, even being a repeat customer of theirs for over 10 years!! Their basic excuse was that demand outstripped supply and they could sell there allocated cars at full list price Ten times over.... Probably a load of old bull!
So I suppose deals are out there but you just need to shop around.
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Well all I can say is the I was their first order of the GTI, (28.03.13). I am paying cash, otherwise I would have gotten more. And I am absolutely certain I lost about £350 by not asking for more.
If anyone is interested I'd be more than happy to negotiate a deal for them at 'the other' dealership I was getting £1500 off. It's in London though.
Let me know ;)
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Thanks all, some great responses.
Even with the fee Broadspeed come in at 6.3% reduction off of list and includes oe years tax. They expect the lead time to be 14 weeks.
I just need to ear back form the dealer (Cheltenham)who offered 3% to see if the want to try and get close which is quite unlikely.
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Thanks all, some great responses.
Even with the fee Broadspeed come in at 6.3% reduction off of list and includes oe years tax. They expect the lead time to be 14 weeks.
I just need to ear back form the dealer (Cheltenham)who offered 3% to see if the want to try and get close which is quite unlikely.
Who have you been dealing with at Cheltenham?
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Got a discount of 5% from local dealer in Aberdeen and a very reasonable trade in for my Mk 5 GTI.
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Cash order placed today with no trade in.
Best price was with Broadspeed, 8.3% discount, just shy of £2.5k
even taking the £199 fee into account. :laugh:
I would like to point out a really great site called www.carbuzz.co.uk which not only has reviews but doesn't have a free associated for finding new car quotes. I would highly recommend.
In the end the only reason I went with Broadspeed was the dealer I found on carbuzz didn't answer their phone at 5:45pm and Broadspeed price matched to secure the order today.
Good luck fellow hagglers!
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That's Drive the Deal listed the GTI and GTD now, with a healthy 8.2% discount. Ideal for those who are in a position to go the broker route (or handy for some more ammunition for haggling with your local dealer!)
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That's Drive the Deal listed the GTI and GTD now, with a healthy 8.2% discount. Ideal for those who are in a position to go the broker route (or handy for some more ammunition for haggling with your local dealer!)
Can't believe they are £50 cheaper, servers me right for not calling them!
CORRECTION- They only offer 6 months tax, another 6 months is £63 so I'm £13 up - PHEW I can sleep easy now!
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Listers VW offered £2.5k off via carbuzz. Said I'd pay in cash, but they made the offer before we'd discussed finance or not.
I also asked about a trade in of my Fiesta as I'm a bit nervous about being ripped off by webuyanycar.com and arranging a private sale to coincide with the as yet unknown GTI arrival sounds tricky. Surprisingly they offered quite close to the webuyanycar website offer despite not having Fords on their forecourt. I'm actually not certain I want to lose my Fiesta as its such a fantastic car so I agreed to discuss it closer to the delivery date with Listers while I try to convince my wife she wants to sell her Ka and move up to the Fiesta. Then again, that will cost me more cash... but I do love the Fiesta, I was actually feeling sorry for it after placing the GTI order. Just washed it and it was all sparkly looking :cry:
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but I do love the Fiesta, I was actually feeling sorry for it after placing the GTI order. Just washed it and it was all sparkly looking :cry:
Big jump up to a GTI Bill, unless it was a Fiesta ST :wink:
You'll love it.
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Big jump up to a GTI Bill, unless it was a Fiesta ST :wink:
Zetec S, there was no mk7 ST when I ordered it (Ford were living in the land of the plonker at the time). So, GTI will almost double the power output! :shocked:
Even so I love that car.
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Big jump up to a GTI Bill, unless it was a Fiesta ST :wink:
Zetec S, there was no mk7 ST when I ordered it (Ford were living in the land of the plonker at the time). So, GTI will almost double the power output! :shocked:
Even so I love that car.
How long did your quotes from carbuzz take to start coming through and how many quotes were offered?
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How long did your quotes from carbuzz take to start coming through and how many quotes were offered?
I think I got one the same day and one a couple of days later. First time using carbuzz. One thing is it asks you when you want the car and the options are quite broad. So I think I put down 4-8 weeks, but this may have ruled me out from getting a lot more quotes. I'm speculating here of course. (EDIT: To be clear, I'm suggesting a longer lead time would be better as its unlikely anyone can supply a build to order GTI in 8 weeks!)
I can also imagine a lot of 18yo wannabes running up a GTI spec for fun, so it could be that many dealers just don't want to waste time if their experience is that people on carbuzz requesting GTIs typically are not serious. Again, I'm speculating. I know nothing really. :undecided: Then again, since I accepted one offer and ignored the other I don't know how they'd know the difference.
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How long did your quotes from carbuzz take to start coming through and how many quotes were offered?
I think I got one the same day and one a couple of days later. First time using carbuzz. One thing is it asks you when you want the car and the options are quite broad. So I think I put down 4-8 weeks, but this may have ruled me out from getting a lot more quotes. I'm speculating here of course. (EDIT: To be clear, I'm suggesting a longer lead time would be better as its unlikely anyone can supply a build to order GTI in 8 weeks!)
I can also imagine a lot of 18yo wannabes running up a GTI spec for fun, so it could be that many dealers just don't want to waste time if their experience is that people on carbuzz requesting GTIs typically are not serious. Again, I'm speculating. I know nothing really. :undecided: Then again, since I accepted one offer and ignored the other I don't know how they'd know the difference.
Thanks, yeah I had a quote from Listers within 6 minutes of sending the request. I've fired a few questions back to them.
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Listers VW offered £2.5k off via carbuzz. Said I'd pay in cash, but they made the offer before we'd discussed finance or not.
Its illegal to offer a different price for finance compared to cash although it does go on.
I know in the past folk that have bought on finance for the "preferred rate" and then paid in full with cash within the 14 days settlement period you have. There is no penalty for this!!
Always something to keep in mind :rolleyes:
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I ended up getting 10% discount off which is great in advance of the price rises form the 1st May.
The replies to your quote are filtered by Car Buzz so you will only get the best ones or those near you (typically 1-3)
If you call them a very helpful guy will give you more detail if you get impatient waiting to sign on the dotted line.
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I know in the past folk that have bought on finance for the "preferred rate" and then paid in full with cash within the 14 days settlement period you have. There is no penalty for this!!
Last article I read on new car haggling suggested the same. Sounds like good advice. Let them think you are interested in finance but undecided and then pay in full after you got the best offer.
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Thanks, yeah I had a quote from Listers within 6 minutes of sending the request. I've fired a few questions back to them.
Hang on a minute, have I just done the Lister's salesperson's job for them? Or were you already talking to them? haha!
Should call them back and ask for some more money off my order for recommending them? :tongue:
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Thanks, yeah I had a quote from Listers within 6 minutes of sending the request. I've fired a few questions back to them.
Hang on a minute, have I just done the Lister's salesperson's job for them? Or were you already talking to them? haha!
Should call them back and ask for some more money off my order for recommending them? :tongue:
I get the feeling Listers own that site.
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Wow .. great thread ... very illuminating :grin: I wasn't expecting these sorts of discount on a brand new Mk 7 GTI (especially after the spate of recent great reviews). I can see the waiting list getting longer and longer :rolleyes:
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
Thats very, very good for a stealer. Broadspeed, who I bought from, are currently discounting at 8.4% so you've got a great price.
Tempted?
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
That's a fantastic deal !!! Was that cash buy? Finance? Part-ex deal? Did they give you any indication on lead time???
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
Thats very, very good for a stealer. Broadspeed, who I bought from, are currently discounting at 8.4% so you've got a great price.
Tempted?
Yes, tempted. :smiley:
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
That's a fantastic deal !!! Was that cash buy? Finance? Part-ex deal? Did they give you any indication on lead time???
PCP with a trade in, they guessed end june early july.
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
Listers? Thats exactly what they offered me.
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I have been offered 8.2% on a Pure White Standard GTI at my local dealership.
Listers? Thats exactly what they offered me.
No, I gave them Listers price and they beat it buy £200ish.
GTI Pure White No Options: £23,907
GTI Performance Pack Pure White (+Reversing Camera) £25,107
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Awesome price well jealous...
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Excellent price, I assume it's a 3 door?
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Awesome price well jealous...
Not too late to grab one too!
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Excellent price, I assume it's a 3 door?
Yep, as a GTI should be :wink:
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It really is an amazing price. They must have a massive allocation of GTI's. I assume they are a very large dealership?
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It really is an amazing price. They must have a massive allocation of GTI's. I assume they are a very large dealership?
They are a large dealer group, I'm not naming as I am still deciding what to do and don't want to lose their last allocation or anything if I go ahead.
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Get it ordered I'm in the know when it came to ordering my GTI and I got nowhere near that offer due to the lack of allocation. Granted im paying cash but even still...
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Seems that they are willing to heavily discount the gti more than the GTD?
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Seems that they are willing to heavily discount the gti more than the GTD?
Possibly, but remember if you are trading in like in the above example then they may well give you a slightly better offer knowing they will recover that by paying a little less for the trade in than they otherwise would have.
Bottom line is these dealers know exactly how much money they need to get in to make the minimum profit they are willing to go for, so I think we've found the current discount limit at a little over 8%.
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Word of caution to all.
Some of the silly lead times for the mk6 were due to online brokers selling cars when they had no allocation and no hope of getting any. Some people who ordered via brokers were wating 8 - 10 months.
Yes they may offer good discounts but do they actually have the cars to sell?
Maybe it will be different this time around.
I think if a discount of 8% is being offered you need to be insisting on a guaranteed delivery date....
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As Bill said. High discount on new car means nowt if you're trading in and getting a poor trade-in value - cost to change is key, as always. Without part-ex subsidising new car discount or vice versa, most dealerships would be looking to make 20% profit on your part-ex e.g. £15k given in part ex and it'll probably be up on their used forecourt for at least £18k. If the larger dealerships hit their upper sales targets they get a bigger profit margin on their new car sales as they'll get them cheaper from VW UK. In that situation they can offer a bigger discount without missing out on a reasonable profit margin.
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Word of caution to all.
Some of the silly lead times for the mk6 were due to online brokers selling cars when they had no allocation and no hope of getting any. Some people who ordered via brokers were wating 8 - 10 months.
Yes they may offer good discounts but do they actually have the cars to sell?
Maybe it will be different this time around.
I think if a discount of 8% is being offered you need to be insisting on a guaranteed delivery date....
This is happened to companies selling purely online with the mk6 I guess? Some options discussed here are looking at online comparisons that then lead to VW dealers who have the allocations.
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GolfTi: I suppose it all depends on how much business any particular dealership has. If they haven't sold their allocated "one per month" in any given month then you may be able to get that allocated car at a reasonable discount without adversely affecting lead time. If on the other hand you have a dealership supplying one of these brokers that has an order in for 8 or 10 GTI/GTDs then there is going to be a wait.
I'd be interested to find out what will happen in my situation. I was the first to order a GTD at Pulman Sunderland. 2 days later I placed an order for another GTD on my dad's behalf and a lad I know from another forum placed a GTD order a day after that. When the salesman has been speaking to me, he has given me the impression that we'll all be getting ours late June/Early July, whereas I would expect us to be getting ours a month apart, with mine coming first. Will the "allocation" go out of the window if VW aren't currently as busy as they'd like to be and so have plenty of spare capacity for production?
Perhaps with a multi branch dealership like Pulman, if the Durham branch has sold none, maybe the Sunderland branch can grab Durham's allocation for that month etc.
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Word of caution to all.
Some of the silly lead times for the mk6 were due to online brokers selling cars when they had no allocation and no hope of getting any. Some people who ordered via brokers were wating 8 - 10 months.
Yes they may offer good discounts but do they actually have the cars to sell?
Maybe it will be different this time around.
I think if a discount of 8% is being offered you need to be insisting on a guaranteed delivery date....
I have bought from an online broker. They were clear in quoting me 12-14 wks delivery from the outset. Were they lying?
I have been told the order is placed at the factory. Is this another scam/lie?
You've got me worried now :sick:
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Word of caution to all.
Some of the silly lead times for the mk6 were due to online brokers selling cars when they had no allocation and no hope of getting any. Some people who ordered via brokers were wating 8 - 10 months.
Yes they may offer good discounts but do they actually have the cars to sell?
Maybe it will be different this time around.
I think if a discount of 8% is being offered you need to be insisting on a guaranteed delivery date....
I have bought from an online broker. They were clear in quoting me 12-14 wks delivery from the outset. Were they lying?
I have been told the order is placed at the factory. Is this another scam/lie?
You've got me worried now :sick:
If they have placed the order they should be able to give you the order number which you can plug in here to check the progress:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order
I cannot do this myself yet as I'm waiting for the paperwork to arrive from my dealer. Though I suppose I could call and ask for the number now, just can't be bothered.
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I thought the broker is just a middle man and passes your details to the dealer who then takes the business forward?!
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Word of caution to all.
Some of the silly lead times for the mk6 were due to online brokers selling cars when they had no allocation and no hope of getting any. Some people who ordered via brokers were wating 8 - 10 months.
Yes they may offer good discounts but do they actually have the cars to sell?
Maybe it will be different this time around.
I think if a discount of 8% is being offered you need to be insisting on a guaranteed delivery date....
I have bought from an online broker. They were clear in quoting me 12-14 wks delivery from the outset. Were they lying?
I have been told the order is placed at the factory. Is this another scam/lie?
You've got me worried now :sick:
If they have placed the order they should be able to give you the order number which you can plug in here to check the progress:
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order
I cannot do this myself yet as I'm waiting for the paperwork to arrive from my dealer. Though I suppose I could call and ask for the number now, just can't be bothered.
As I've discussed here before (other thread) I've got an order number but the 'Track-My-Order' website doesn't recognise it. The dealer told me this is because I haven't been assigned a build week yet. Fishy or not? Maybe too early to tell.
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I thought the broker is just a middle man and passes your details to the dealer who then takes the business forward?!
That's correct. I'm now dealing direct with the VW dealer.
I have an order number but the VW Track My Order website doesn't recognise it....[scratches head]
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I wouldn't go by anything on the VW tracker site yet. When I first got my order number, it appeared as "processing" for a few days, then it disappeared, then it came back again, and now it has disappeared again. According to my dealer, the order has been processed and accepted by the factory, but is now being held in statis until week 22 to be changed to the MY14 spec. Until that time, don't expect to hear much.
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I thought the broker is just a middle man and passes your details to the dealer who then takes the business forward?!
Thats right and the dealer will pay him something for the referral.
These guys who have ordered through brokers offering 7-10% discount I expect will have a huge mix of lead times.
We haven't actually even been given seperate allocation for GTi/GTD yet but have been able to place them under normal golf allocation. When we do know the amounts that will go through look out for some very disspointed customers......I have been openly upfront with everyone I have taken an order from and said expect 6 months from when I placed the order on sli.
Few will be lucky with brokers and get them quick but the vast majority wont even be able to place the order. Our fleet dept have taken so many orders for mk7 that they don't have allocation till June.....
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I thought the broker is just a middle man and passes your details to the dealer who then takes the business forward?!
That's correct. I'm now dealing direct with the VW dealer.
I have an order number but the VW Track My Order website doesn't recognise it....[scratches head]
If you are dealing with the VW dealer I don't think you have anything to worry about. I'll let you know when I get my tracking number if it works. At least one does as I'm sure I've seen someone post a screencap of it.
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We haven't actually even been given seperate allocation for GTi/GTD yet but have been able to place them under normal golf allocation. When we do know the amounts that will go through look out for some very disspointed customers......I have been openly upfront with everyone I have taken an order from and said expect 6 months from when I placed the order on sli.
Few will be lucky with brokers and get them quick but the vast majority wont even be able to place the order. Our fleet dept have taken so many orders for mk7 that they don't have allocation till June.....
My dealer claims July, but now I wonder if they are just guessing as you seem to know what you're talking about!
However, I'm not that bothered if it takes longer. They can iron out any production issues making ones for Europe, maybe we'll get 63 plates and every month that passes is a lot less loan I need to take out :smiley:.
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I don't think having a VW order number is any guarantee of getting one sharpish (June/July). If a Dealer has placed orders for 10 GTD/GTIs and they have all been accepted with an order number then I would expect that they will still come in the order they have been placed. If a large dealership was allowed 2 per month and they have 10 orders confirmed then i'd expect orders 9 and 10 to come 4 months after orders 1 and 2.
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Hi all, new member here, just placed an order today!
GTi 3 door manual in metallic carbon grey with no extras
I played 2 local dealers off against each other and got £750 (2.8%) discount for a PCP lease. Apparently I was the first customer to receive a discount and have the 7th car out of their pre-production allocation of only 8!
Not the best discount I know but I as happy! Was keen to order before the planned +2% increase on 1st May.
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Welcome to the fold.. Any discount is better than none, however small it is. Did you have a part-exchange? I know I've asked this on numerous other occasions but did you get a lead time? I'm guessing its the same as all of us... Sometime late June/ July??
Sounds like a pretty busy dealership!!!
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Hi thanks for the welcome.
We did discuss part exchange of my Mk5 but will probably sell privately so we took it out of the mix for the PCP quote.
I'm not as concerned about lead time as I'd rather take the car in September, primarily due to my TT lease ending but also for the new plate. They did say the car would probably arrive July/Aug.
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Welcome Champers.
2% is okay. I'm sure there will be a hell of a lot of dealers not offering any discount judging by the forums.
With 2% you have a fair compromise; the ease of a local dealer who will be able to help you with any problems without having to travel miles and miles, and the goodwill that you have a bit of discount and they haven't cut their profit to the bone.
Some are getting 8% from brokers but you're dealing with fleet departments who will hand over the car and not want to see you again for another 2 or 3 years...
... Ya pays yer money...
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Here's my deal I signed up for today:
3DR Pure White, Performance Pack & Reversing Camera. (£27,185 List Price)
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/AnthonyAndrades/ScreenShot2013-04-30at165248_zps1dab3785.png)
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£169 pm? :shocked: thats cheap! I think i'd want more than 5000 miles a year though? :huh:
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£169 pm? :shocked: thats cheap! I think i'd want more than 5000 miles a year though? :huh:
I only do 5000 a year, we run 2 cars and the GTI will get the fun runs out and pottering around. I'm happy with the discount as I'm paying a chunk less than the price of a standard car but getting the PP, White & Reversing cam. It helps the monthly payment that my trade in is worth £7k ish.
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Yeah that is cheap, but I'm also adding a whole load more extras and giving up less of my car in part-ex so I get some cash back to throw into bank and put towards the FCP (Future Crippling Payment!) ;) I also do nearer 10,000 on average too.
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Mileage makes a massive difference to the monthly payment. Means the residual is higher, plus a healthy deposit and not that many options means £169 is achievable. At first glance though I was wtf I'm being massively ripped off lol!!
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True, but ultimately you end up having to pay for it one way or the other! Having a lower monthly does make it easier to save for the final payment though, or for some cash towards a trade.
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True, but ultimately you end up having to pay for it one way or the other! Having a lower monthly does make it easier to save for the final payment though, or for some cash towards a trade.
Yeah six of one or half a dozen of the other, we all get served whichever way we pay :grin:
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Yeah six of one or half a dozen of the other, we all get served whichever way we pay :grin:
Yup! I just can't decide whether to go with my Options quote as it stands, leaving me with a healthy bank balance but the need to save up to make sure I can cover the final payment. Or, use my whole car as deposit, and fund the balance through a regular bank loan. It means I'd have less in bank, but once the loan is paid off, that's it, plus I could spread it over 4 years if I wanted to keep my outgoings the same. Plus, a bank loan would save a significant amount of interest - almost 10% of my total finance amount.
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Yeah six of one or half a dozen of the other, we all get served whichever way we pay :grin:
Yup! I just can't decide whether to go with my Options quote as it stands, leaving me with a healthy bank balance but the need to save up to make sure I can cover the final payment. Or, use my whole car as deposit, and fund the balance through a regular bank loan. It means I'd have less in bank, but once the loan is paid off, that's it, plus I could spread it over 4 years if I wanted to keep my outgoings the same. Plus, a bank loan would save a significant amount of interest - almost 10% of my total finance amount.
I figure that if you are able to pay a significant fraction up front but have no hope of getting the full ~£30k then the best bet is a low APR bank loan. So that's what I've done. Hopefully its not a terrible terrible mistake. :shocked:
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I figure that if you are able to pay a significant fraction up front but have no hope of getting the full ~£30k then the best bet is a low APR bank loan. So that's what I've done. Hopefully its not a terrible terrible mistake. :shocked:
Taking everything into consideration, I need to finance about half of the total cost. Like you I think I'll end up going with a low interest bank loan over 3 or 4 years. It might leave less in my account to start with, but, it also means that what I have left each month is mine, and when the loan is paid off, that's it, no final payment to find. It's the more sensible option for sure, and saves a massive amount of interest.
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I always think that the options route is good if you're definately going to change your car every 3 years as i'd hate to have the balloon payment hanging over my head if i wanted to keep it, if i couldn't save it for whatever reason then i'd need another loan to pay it off meaning the interest on the whole car gets daft.
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I got 9% discount on my 5 door DSG Golf GTI. Saving me just under £2800. In fact, the deal was so good I was requested not to tell anyone else what the discount was :)
Extras are: Basic Sat Nav, PP, ACC, RVC
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I always think that the options route is good if you're definately going to change your car every 3 years as i'd hate to have the balloon payment hanging over my head if i wanted to keep it, if i couldn't save it for whatever reason then i'd need another loan to pay it off meaning the interest on the whole car gets daft.
Yeah exactly, and I hope to keep mine for at least as long again as I had my Mk5 (8 years). Just been working the numbers, and if I'm sensible about putting down more up-front, a bank loan over 4 years will be the same per month as solutions, but save me a fortune in interest. It's not like I wouldn't have the money for the balloon payment, but I'd rather absorb cost up-front if I can so i know exactly where I stand each month. Decision made I think!
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I always think that the options route is good if you're definately going to change your car every 3 years as i'd hate to have the balloon payment hanging over my head if i wanted to keep it, if i couldn't save it for whatever reason then i'd need another loan to pay it off meaning the interest on the whole car gets daft.
Yeah exactly, and I hope to keep mine for at least as long again as I had my Mk5 (8 years). Just been working the numbers, and if I'm sensible about putting down more up-front, a bank loan over 4 years will be the same per month as solutions, but save me a fortune in interest. It's not like I wouldn't have the money for the balloon payment, but I'd rather absorb cost up-front if I can so i know exactly where I stand each month. Decision made I think!
Productive day for you then! :)
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Productive day for you then! :)
That would be a fair comment! I can sleep easy now, car is exactly as I want it, and the interest saving more than pays for the extras I threw on today :)
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£169 pm? :shocked: thats cheap! I think i'd want more than 5000 miles a year though? :huh:
The mileage only comes into play if you are handing it back though and who in their right mind will hand the car back and walk away unless it has negative equity? :smiley:
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£169 pm? :shocked: thats cheap! I think i'd want more than 5000 miles a year though? :huh:
The mileage only comes into play if you are handing it back though and who in their right mind will hand the car back and walk away unless it has negative equity? :smiley:
If they want a change. From my extensive experience with pcp's, paying a huge deposit helps you to lose it at the other end.
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The solutions always gets you on the interest. With a car like the GTD/GTI having such a high guaranteed future value you will always be paying interest on a large proportion of the car's cost, unlike a bank loan where the proportion of your monthly payment going towards interest really wanes after years 1 and 2.
If you're going to keep this car for 5 years or more then a personal loan makes more sense - the whole car paid off in 5 years, opposed to the solutions route where you might pay a bit less each month but at the end of year 3 you've only paid off 45% of the car (the depreciation). Solutions if you change every 3 years, bank loan if you plan on keeping it 5 years.
I'm going to be made redundant in either Sept/Oct 2014 or June 2015, but i'll come out of it with about £50k redundancy :laugh: At the moment i'm used to paying £410 a month for my Roc. Part of me is erring towards taking out a 2 year solutions deal so i'm still paying a high amount (with £5k down) and pay the GFV off with my lumper, or do I leave it at 3 years, only paying about £270 a month, and then pay off the car as soon as I get my lumper? 2 years Solutions will cost me less interest at a steeper repayment rate.
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£169 pm? :shocked: thats cheap! I think i'd want more than 5000 miles a year though? :huh:
The mileage only comes into play if you are handing it back though and who in their right mind will hand the car back and walk away unless it has negative equity? :smiley:
If they want a change. From my extensive experience with pcp's, paying a huge deposit helps you to lose it at the other end.
What do you mean if they want a change?
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What do you mean if they want a change?
Step up to an R?
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What do you mean if they want a change?
Step up to an R?
:undecided: But the whole point of the post was who in their right mind would just hand the car back and walk away??
They can still trade it in and buy an R and have 100,000 miles on it and not be penalised
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probably not the best way from me but I'm going down the solutions route and then after three years I'll decide what to do. to be honest with the VW finance being 6.4% bank loans are not much cheaper plus with solutions you can get lower price service pack.
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What do you mean if they want a change?
Step up to an R?
Exactly what I'll be doing in 3 years.
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probably not the best way from me but I'm going down the solutions route and then after three years I'll decide what to do. to be honest with the VW finance being 6.4% bank loans are not much cheaper plus with solutions you can get lower price service pack.
Good point. But maybe I can haggle them down on the service pack... I'll throw in a sob story about how traumatic it has been waiting for the GTI for 6 months when they promised it would be ready in July. heh heh heh
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The solutions always gets you on the interest. With a car like the GTD/GTI having such a high guaranteed future value you will always be paying interest on a large proportion of the car's cost, unlike a bank loan where the proportion of your monthly payment going towards interest really wanes after years 1 and 2.
If you're going to keep this car for 5 years or more then a personal loan makes more sense - the whole car paid off in 5 years, opposed to the solutions route where you might pay a bit less each month but at the end of year 3 you've only paid off 45% of the car (the depreciation). Solutions if you change every 3 years, bank loan if you plan on keeping it 5 years.
I'm going to be made redundant in either Sept/Oct 2014 or June 2015, but i'll come out of it with about £50k redundancy :laugh: At the moment i'm used to paying £410 a month for my Roc. Part of me is erring towards taking out a 2 year solutions deal so i'm still paying a high amount (with £5k down) and pay the GFV off with my lumper, or do I leave it at 3 years, only paying about £270 a month, and then pay off the car as soon as I get my lumper? 2 years Solutions will cost me less interest at a steeper repayment rate.
You can also lower the optional final payment so pay off more per month so less to find at the end of the agreement.
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You can also lower the optional final payment so pay off more per month so less to find at the end of the agreement.
You can, and I did just that with my current car, seeing my GFV drop from about £12900 to £8900. My only worry with doing that is that maybe VW being generous with the GFV right now (£14400 for me on a standard 5DR GTD manual with metallic paint and no other extras). If I go to change in 3 years and in reality the market won't hold up to £14400 trade-in value, perhaps true p/x value is £13k, I can just walk away. If I effectively overpay and say the GFV drops to £10k as a result and I get £13k p/x, i've chucked away £1400 to maybe save £200 interest in going via the overpayment route.
What's the current p/x value of a mk6 GTD, 3 years old, good condition with 10k miles on the clock? How does that compare with the GFV that Solutions would have banged out against normal rates of repayment (not overpaying)?
At 2 years old in June, I got £15,500 p/x against my 170TDI Roc vs £17k got for my 2 year old 140TDI GT Roc in 2011. I paid considerably less for the 140TDI Roc as it was bought when VAT was 15% and the 140 has always been cheaper than the 170. It seems that 4.5 years into the Roc's lifecycle, they are holding onto their value less than they were at 2.5 years into it.
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When I've worked the figures back and the extra given on my px (polo pcp ends in sept and I'm 18k over my mileage allowance at 6p mile) plus the 3.5% off list I got approx £1700 off, about 6-7%. That's just through negotiation with a dealership and no Internet specials.
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My dealer just matched a 2k online discount for MK7 GTI 5 door performance pack-pure white, plus an extra £750 more than i was expecting for part ex.
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My dealer just matched a 2k online discount, plus an extra £750 more than i was expecting for part ex.
Nice. They give you an estimated :tongue: build or delivery date to add into the mix?
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Given a delivery date for the end of July.
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Given a delivery date for the end of July.
Ok. Just to let you know, we've been discussing on here and there is a wide range of responses we've had. I would assume end of August at the earliest.
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Given a delivery date for the end of July.
Ok. Just to let you know, we've been discussing on here and there is a wide range of responses we've had. I would assume end of August at the earliest.
They did say I might change!
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Given a delivery date for the end of July.
Ok. Just to let you know, we've been discussing on here and there is a wide range of responses we've had. I would assume end of August at the earliest.
They did say I might change!
And change "A LOT" it probably will... Lol! Great deal by the way & welcome to the Mad house :laugh:
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My dealer just matched a 2k online discount for MK7 GTI 5 door performance pack-pure white, plus an extra £750 more than i was expecting for part ex.
Wish I was so lucky. The stumbling block for me finalising a deal is the p/e valuation they are putting on my car. Can't quite get an agreement but hopefully soon.
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My dealer just matched a 2k online discount for MK7 GTI 5 door performance pack-pure white, plus an extra £750 more than i was expecting for part ex.
Wish I was so lucky. The stumbling block for me finalising a deal is the p/e valuation they are putting on my car. Can't quite get an agreement but hopefully soon.
Did you manage to get any sort of discount off the list price?.... And are they wildly out with the P/Ex valuation or is it a case of just a few hundred pounds?
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My dealer just matched a 2k online discount for MK7 GTI 5 door performance pack-pure white, plus an extra £750 more than i was expecting for part ex.
Wish I was so lucky. The stumbling block for me finalising a deal is the p/e valuation they are putting on my car. Can't quite get an agreement but hopefully soon.
Did you manage to get any sort of discount off the list price?.... And are they wildly out with the P/Ex valuation or is it a case of just a few hundred pounds?
Getting about £1600 of the list price. I'm about £500 shy on what I want for my car. The problem is them trying to calculate what it will be worth in say 4-5 months time. So close but yet so far just now.
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Dealers are basically 'bullsh!tters' to put it simply. I called an Audi dealer asking what deals they would do on the new S3, he was like "Nothing, you just won't get a discount on a car we'll easily sell" He then went on to say "I worked at VW until recently (the exact dealer I've ordered my car with btw) and I never gave a discount on a GTI in the 9 and a half years i worked there". What utter crap! I said I just got about £1200 off without even much negotiating. He was like "Wow I can't believe it" They just talk crap.
I know the above was posted a while ago but can I ask which Audi dealership you were referring to Hayabusa? I ask because the guy I bought my GTI off from Citygate Watford last year told me he was leaving to join Audi and he certainly gave me a discount on my GTI...
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Dealers are basically 'bullsh!tters' to put it simply. I called an Audi dealer asking what deals they would do on the new S3, he was like "Nothing, you just won't get a discount on a car we'll easily sell" He then went on to say "I worked at VW until recently (the exact dealer I've ordered my car with btw) and I never gave a discount on a GTI in the 9 and a half years i worked there". What utter crap! I said I just got about £1200 off without even much negotiating. He was like "Wow I can't believe it" They just talk crap.
I know the above was posted a while ago but can I ask which Audi dealership you were referring to Hayabusa? I ask because the guy I bought my GTI off from Citygate Watford last year told me he was leaving to join Audi and he certainly gave me a discount on my GTI...
Sure man. It was Watford Audi. I forgot his name now. But it was pure bull if ever I heard it.
Here is the story of my journey in trying to get the best discount.
1. First dealer gave me £1150 (but I reckon I under sold myself)
2. Went to another North west London dealer and asked for £3k (about 9%) and I was told they ain't gonna undervalue the brand and offered me £1500 max
3. In the end I got £2800 ! (9%) from a VW dealer outside of London. Undervalue the brand? My arse!
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I did a pcp on my BMW over 4 years. First time I have done this. Normally I go down the hp route. My ballon payment at the end of the deal is 10.5k and my monthly payments are £320. The nett cost of the car with discount was 32.5k and I put a good deposit of 10k down. As soon as I purchased the car I opened up a savings account just for the car and put any spare cash in there. I've got quite obsessed about this with the ballon payment hanging over me and managed to save 4k in 8 months. So it looks like I will probably change in 3 years and have a healthy deposit of 12k for my next car ( maybe a golf R :lipsrsealed: ). BMW were doing 4.9% apr at the time on the pcp. I got 7.5% off the new car. The max achievable is 10%. It's all swings and roundabouts really with car financing. However, I like keeping the payments as low as possible therefore I would certainly consider a pcp again based on my experience thus far. The key is saving for the ballon payment though!
I'm looking forward to seeing some of the new mk7s on here and on the road. It looks a peach and is getting great reviews. Might have to test drive one myself to check out the competition.
I'm still very pleased with the 125i m sport though. The rear wheel drive handling is fantastic especially in sport mode with the lowered apaptive suspension. The gear shifts feel seamless compared to dsg with great levels of torque. Exhaust note is crap though compared to the golf though which is my only real gripe. I would certainly sway towards another BMW again based on the car and dealership experience (they have better coffee machines than the VW dealers :laugh:)
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Sure man. It was Watford Audi. I forgot his name now. But it was pure bull if ever I heard it.
Duncan by any chance? If so, he was nice guy - I bought my GTI from Citygate Watford in July 2012 and I got 5dr, DSG, metallic paint and Monza shadows for £26k. We also got some freebies chucked in like a baby seat and ISOFIX base (we were expecting at the time). So he definitely did give a discount during his time at VW!
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Autoebid were showing 23981 for 3 door Performance earlier. With voice Discover, winter, Dynaudio, Tornado and ACC 26284 looks like value. Service pack and 4 year warranty for 27.
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Finally got a deal done :smiley: can't wait now!
Went for pure white, 3 door manual with ACC, sat nav pro, perf pack and keyless entry
Managed to get approx 7.2% discount from the local dealer (£2,200) :)
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Finally got a deal done :smiley: can't wait now!
Went for pure white, 3 door manual with ACC, sat nav pro, perf pack and keyless entry
Managed to get approx 7.2% discount from the local dealer (£2,200) :)
Good work and welcome to the waiting room :grin:
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Sure man. It was Watford Audi. I forgot his name now. But it was pure bull if ever I heard it.
Duncan by any chance? If so, he was nice guy - I bought my GTI from Citygate Watford in July 2012 and I got 5dr, DSG, metallic paint and Monza shadows for £26k. We also got some freebies chucked in like a baby seat and ISOFIX base (we were expecting at the time). So he definitely did give a discount during his time at VW!
I really can't remember. Whoever it was, he was talking $%*&
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Just ordered a 5 door GTD DSG Pearl Black to upgrade from my MKVI GT 2.0TDI yesterday.
Managed to get a 9.65% discount from VW main dealer after thinking about buying via a broker (before reading broker comments on here and glad I didnt go the broker route now). Main dealer matched broker price (or more accurately what I told them the broker price was with not asking for proof lol).
Added a few extra to bring the list price to £30,240 - ended up paying £27,320 (2,920 discount).
Winter Pack
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Advanced Phone Prep
Climate Windscreen
Dynaudio
Keyless entry
High Beam Assist
Matts, flaps & tank of Diesel
Basically getting all the extras for £15 less than the standard OTR price lol
Also got the Autoglym package for half price (£149) - I know there may be some debate over this but to me its worth it at half price.
I know there has been talk on the park assist/rear view camera but the dealer didn't mention anything.
Estimated delivery date of early November though... dealer hopeful it will be brought forward a month......
Still waiting on confirmed build week etc....
Was a cash sale and hoping to discuss a discount on the service pack closer to delivery.
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Just ordered a 5 door GTD DSG Pearl Black to upgrade from my MKVI GT 2.0TDI yesterday.
Managed to get a 9.65% discount from VW main dealer after thinking about buying via a broker (before reading broker comments on here and glad I didnt go the broker route now). Main dealer matched broker price (or more accurately what I told them the broker price was with not asking for proof lol).
Added a few extra to bring the list price to £30,240 - ended up paying £27,320 (2,920 discount).
Winter Pack
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Advanced Phone Prep
Climate Windscreen
Dynaudio
Keyless entry
High Beam Assist
Matts, flaps & tank of Diesel
Basically getting all the extras for £15 less than the standard OTR price lol
Also got the Autoglym package for half price (£149) - I know there may be some debate over this but to me its worth it at half price.
I know there has been talk on the park assist/rear view camera but the dealer didn't mention anything.
Estimated delivery date of early November though... dealer hopeful it will be brought forward a month......
Still waiting on confirmed build week etc....
Was a cash sale and hoping to discuss a discount on the service pack closer to delivery.
Excellent deal. Well done. I got 9.2% and I thought mine was good ;
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Just ordered a 5 door GTD DSG Pearl Black to upgrade from my MKVI GT 2.0TDI yesterday.
Managed to get a 9.65% discount from VW main dealer after thinking about buying via a broker (before reading broker comments on here and glad I didnt go the broker route now). Main dealer matched broker price (or more accurately what I told them the broker price was with not asking for proof lol).
Added a few extra to bring the list price to £30,240 - ended up paying £27,320 (2,920 discount).
Winter Pack
Park Assist
Rear View Camera
Advanced Phone Prep
Climate Windscreen
Dynaudio
Keyless entry
High Beam Assist
Matts, flaps & tank of Diesel
Basically getting all the extras for £15 less than the standard OTR price lol
Also got the Autoglym package for half price (£149) - I know there may be some debate over this but to me its worth it at half price.
I know there has been talk on the park assist/rear view camera but the dealer didn't mention anything.
Estimated delivery date of early November though... dealer hopeful it will be brought forward a month......
Still waiting on confirmed build week etc....
Was a cash sale and hoping to discuss a discount on the service pack closer to delivery.
Excellent deal. Well done. I got 9.2% and I thought mine was good ;
Thanks - Just noticed I got my sums slightly wrong - list price was 30,308 making the discount 9.85%!
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drivethedeal seem to be offering just over 11% which seems to be a stunning deal at the moment...
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drivethedeal seem to be offering just over 11% which seems to be a stunning deal at the moment...
There are good discounts to be had. I managed 10% discount and a good px for my 60 plate GTD.
Tuck nearly 3 hours at my local dealer but well worth it in the end.
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Well I eventually ordered mine from drivethedeal. I did procrastinate about doing so just because of fear of the unknown I suppose. Anyway the discount was 11.15% with delivery a a dealer about five miles away. I will have to sell my current TDI privately but at least I didn't have to sit in a dealership for 3 hours. The dealer has taken a 5% deposit, nothing at all paid to DTD. Delivery is estimated 10/09/2013 order number supplied to me next week. Let's hope it continues to be painless. Apparently as DTD offer free delivery, they always use the nearest dealer possible.
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Well I eventually ordered mine from drivethedeal. I did procrastinate about doing so just because of fear of the unknown I suppose. Anyway the discount was 11.15% with delivery a a dealer about five miles away. I will have to sell my current TDI privately but at least I didn't have to sit in a dealership for 3 hours. The dealer has taken a 5% deposit, nothing at all paid to DTD. Delivery is estimated 10/09/2013 order number supplied to me next week. Let's hope it continues to be painless. Apparently as DTD offer free delivery, they always use the nearest dealer possible.
Well done Douglas! 11.15% is most excellent. I got 9.1% buying through Broadspeed but had to pay £199 fee. I've bought my last three cars online as I hate face-to-face encounters with k*obhead sales guys in dealerships. I've had terrible experiences so never again. Give me a faceless form to fill in and press submit... how 21st century :grin:
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I hate face-to-face encounters with k*obhead sales guys in dealerships. I've had terrible experiences so never again. Give me a faceless form to fill in and press submit... how 21st century :grin:
That was my reasoning. I walked into my local dealer and they were really quite rude. What, I want to spend £25k on a car and you can't be bothered? And I was completely ignored despite the showroom being overrun by salesmen in Maidstone. They were more interested in talking to each other than their customers. That's what persuaded me to hit the order now button online. Anyway, DTD have done exactly what they said on their website, they just mediate, take no money and introduce you to the dealer, who takes your deposit and sends you an order confirmation. DTD confirm they have done this and say thankyou and goodbye. Marvellous. The dealer is also sending me courteous emails.... :cool:
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I thought I would add my discount news in for anyone about to order or thinking of it.
I originally ordered a GTI 5Dr DSG Tornado Red on the day orders opened and mentioned a discount to the dealer who said "no chance" as I expected. Oh well, that was what I planned on.
2 days later we had some concerning news at work (bank being difficult etc) and I decided that discretion would be the better part of valour and I asked the dealer to cancel the order even though I had paid £1000 deposit and signed an order which said no refunds on deposits. They repaid the deposit no problem, so I was quite happy.
We have now sorted out the bank at work and so I decided to reorder, but in Carbon Steel Grey this time. I phoned the dealer to make an appointment and warned him I would be looking for a decent discount since Broadspeed and Drive The Deal brokers are offering 9% and 12% respectively. When I went in to place the new order, I showed him a table I had done of the broker prices and the discounts available and he went off to see his manager. Came back 5 minutes later and said they would match the Broadspeed discount of 9% but could not match Drive The Deal 12%. They didn't ask for proof of the discoount from the brokers or try to convince me that using the dealer is far better service etc etc
I almost bit his hand off. Got the 9% on standard car but not on the options (probably could have pushed for it on the options but didn't as I was happy enough with £2500 off list).
The provisional order slot they had given me when I ordered first had not gone to anyone else so I had the same order slot, but they have quoted week 40 for ? build ? delivery ? since I changed the colour. Probably also down to popularity of DSG ? Anyhow, I can wait until October for that level of discount.
The moral of the story: don't be afraid to ask for the discount and use the broker prices and discounts as a lever. It was easy to achieve and no hard sell on finance, paint cover, gap insurance or anything else.
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allycat45: Good result, but you were lucky to get your deposit back when you cancelled! DSG is not a delaying option judging by what is coming through on the early UK fulfilled orders. My dad has a GTD DSG on it's way from Emden in the next day or 2 (it is waiting dockside right now).
Did you have a p/x to offload? You're always in a far better position to negotiate without one, as thy'll probably punish you in it's valuation in lieu of discount on the new one.
In the same boat as you I ordered at the end of March and ended up with just free GAP and servicing for my troubles (no discount on the car itself), but an excellent fixed p/x priced. As my build week has been put back, the equity in my p/x keeps getting bigger, to the point that it will be twice what it was when I placed the order. Because of this I feel like i'm in the same position as someone ordering now with a decent p/x price and a decent discount.
Some dealerships are quieter than others - they're the ones that'll be discounting right now and once the early adopters have theirs and initial demand has been fulfilled I would expect discounts of up to 10% to be the norm for anyone who pushes for it.
Judging by your order number prefix of 2317xxxx I would summise that they haven't placed any other GTI orders in the meantime to have reinstated your cancelled order number to you. They must be quite keen to get a sale!
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sh!t. I ordered 2 months before allycat45 with a similar spec and get the same build week... :sad:
Nice discount though mate! Well played, I didn't think it would still be possible to get a good discount now the popularity has been proven.
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The build week is estimated at 40, but not yet confirmed. The tracker still shows "processing your order" a week later.
I am trading in the wife's old ford focus (11 yr old 2.0 Ghia, 75k miles). They offered me £650 first time around as PX which I accepted (probably too low in hindsight as its about the same as we buy any car.com's figure). When I reordered last week they conveniently left the PX off the order form, but I reminded them and they put it back on at the same figure. I have written off the value of the focus in my mind anyway since we've had it for 10 of its 11 yrs, so £650 off the new car seems OK. Maybe I could get a few hundred more selling it privately but who needs the hassle? The only hassle is that they want 1 month MOT when I trade it in and the MOT expires mid-October. Let's hope it passes ...
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Great discount, if the dealers offered me 10% I would probably sign there and then. I think when I take my car in on saturday I might have to have a word with the salesman and drop in the broadspeed and drive the deal prices. See what they say.
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I managed an 8% total discount off the price by simply being reluctant to jump in on the sale and taking a while to secure the deal. They knew I was close to placing the order so kept offering more discount until i got them as low as they were prepared to go :) Definitely pays off.
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If a Salesmans rude, take your big bucks elsewhere, they are clearly not worthy, many dealers in most parts of the UK. Keep the haggling fun and playful with a smile and you'd be amazed at whats possible.
Also a half naked hottie in the showroom will always help.*
*Half naked hottie can be of either sex and should be chosen based on the salesman gender and sexuality.
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
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That's an exceptional discount... :shocked:
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
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Jedi mind trick? :whistle:
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:laugh:
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
:smiley:
Hope you don't mind waiting 6 months for it :whistle:
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
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Hope you don't mind waiting 6 months for it :whistle:
Even if the build week is confirmed as 46?
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
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I don't know you but I am proud of you.
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
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Yes it is, but 32k is a disgrace for a Gti anyway. The worlds gone mad
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Even if the build week is confirmed as 46?
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Happy days..... :cool: I thought this was something that you only just ordered??
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I went in armed with what I wanted from my local Volkswagen dealership and came out happy.
List price £32,322
Discount £3934 (approx 12.2%)
No part exchange involved and taken PCP over 36 months.
:smiley:
Yes it is, but 32k is a disgrace for a Gti anyway. The worlds gone mad
I'd agree, my limit was £30k, anything more just didn't seem right, even £30k is a lot of money.
One of the reasons I didn't go for anything like the Audi S3 / Golf R as once you add options they would end up to a mouth watering £40k approx.
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Even if the build week is confirmed as 46?
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Happy days..... :cool: I thought this was something that you only just ordered??
Ordered Sept 14th
Estimated BW46 given a month later
Confirmed BW46 last week
Just worried it might get delayed :(
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Just been into my local dealer for a test drive and the best discount they offered me off was £500. Showed them quotes I had got of the internet, but they said that was the best they could do and the £500 was only because I had bought 2 from them before.
What are the current normal discounts people are getting from dealers?
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Just been into my local dealer for a test drive and the best discount they offered me off was £500. Showed them quotes I had got of the internet, but they said that was the best they could do and the £500 was only because I had bought 2 from them before.
What are the current normal discounts people are getting from dealers?
Hi James,
It appears as though the large discounts from the dealers have dried up recently to be honest mate. Before launch you were getting discounts of between 8% - 12% which was probably just to test the waters for demand. I think that the demand levels are at a premium just now that the dealers are no longer offering anythinth near these original discounts.
Your best bet is probably to go through a broker where you will still achieve 10% plus. Another thing to mention is that the higher the spec on your car the more discount you are likely to be offered :smiley:
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Cheers Craig. Going to try Sheffield this afternoon see what they say and also registered on carwow.co.uk
As they collect quotes from dealers
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James , a couple of weeks ago I went to my local dealer armed with carwow quotes and managed to get 10% out of them in the end. Originally they were only offering free gap insurance and autoglym. I also told them I was test driving Audi, BMW etc. Good luck.
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I didn’t see any brokers discounting until mid-april, by which time I’d had my order in over 2 weeks. I didn’t do too badly despite that, considering my p/x value and freebies. Best try a few different dealership groups and play them off each other. Discount depends on their desperation to get your business. If their order book is full and they can’t get another that will be delivered within 6 months they will rebuff your attempts at meaningful discount. They want your business, but how much do they want it?
Right now brokers may be the only way to go – just be wary about part-ex if you have a car to get rid of. If you get £2k discount, but they undervalue your part-ex by £2k vs your local dealer then you’ve gained nowt. Best position to be in is no part-ex and go straight to the brokers.
I’ve seen some locality variables too when everyone was divulging their deals. We in the North East seemed to get the best p/x prices but worst deals if we were buying locally – most of the best deals were happening in the South East, with far better deals to be had on cars laden with options than vanilla spec. It seemed not so much that the car itself was getting a discount, but the options were coming free. The overall car cost on a deal rarely seemed to be under the vanilla car’s RRP.
When you negotiate, get a rock solid part-ex value first and then talk discount, so they don’t undervalue your car to pay for the discount.
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Back in April when I dropped my car into a service I decided to get a quote to change from my Mk6 GTD to the new GTI and at the time I decided to leave it. After some more research & thinking I went back 3 weeks ago ready to put a deposit down if they were willing to do a deal.
In the end I managed to get £1500 off the spec I wanted and for some reason was offered £2000 more for my PX than I did 6 months ago which was a surprise :smiley: I was told the market place had changed for second hand Mk6 GTD's and prices went up. Not sure if that's true or not but I didn't complain. I also managed to get them to guarantee my residual value until March. The only difference was I used a different salesman from the same dealer.
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Thanks for the advice yesterday guys, managed to get a good discount after playing 2 dealers off against each other and using the carwow quotes to help. As you guys said I was worried about my part ex and got a better figure at my local garage that is set for worst case 6 months wait.
Which I am happy with considering I have barley specced it as it has everything on I wanted and specced on my mk6. The mk6 I specced xenon's, touch rcd510, folding mirrors, rear camera, reflex silver metallic and service plan. Which most are standard now.
My 7 Options
rear camera, service plan and carbon grey metallic
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I've just got what I feel to be a good deal on a GTI too, using a quote from Drive The Deal, I managed to negotiate a better deal with my local dealer and I've ended up with what works out to be around 12% off the list price for the spec I want.
Really happy with the deal, and to be honest I don't even mind the wait!
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I've just got what I feel to be a good deal on a GTI too, using a quote from Drive The Deal, I managed to negotiate a better deal with my local dealer and I've ended up with what works out to be around 12% off the list price for the spec I want.
Really happy with the deal, and to be honest I don't even mind the wait!
That's a good deal. What spec did you go for?
J
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I've just got what I feel to be a good deal on a GTI too, using a quote from Drive The Deal, I managed to negotiate a better deal with my local dealer and I've ended up with what works out to be around 12% off the list price for the spec I want.
Really happy with the deal, and to be honest I don't even mind the wait!
That's a good deal. What spec did you go for?
J
Thanks! GTI 3-Door DSG, Tornado Red with ACC, Winter pack, Keyless Go, Discover Nav and a service pack!
Going to be a long wait but to be quite honest, I'm quite happy that (hopefully) most of the bad weather will be out of the way when it arrives so I won't be worrying about bumping it in the snow!
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I've just got what I feel to be a good deal on a GTI too, using a quote from Drive The Deal, I managed to negotiate a better deal with my local dealer and I've ended up with what works out to be around 12% off the list price for the spec I want.
Really happy with the deal, and to be honest I don't even mind the wait!
That's a good deal. What spec did you go for?
J
Thanks! GTI 3-Door DSG, Tornado Red with ACC, Winter pack, Keyless Go, Discover Nav and a service pack!
Going to be a long wait but to be quite honest, I'm quite happy that (hopefully) most of the bad weather will be out of the way when it arrives so I won't be worrying about bumping it in the snow!
Sounds great. Enjoy it!
J
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Just posted in another thread, but for those who don't see:
I got my discount through a friend at VW Dealership, so got a very good deal. Drive the deal currently offers 13%
The car I've bought is GTD DSG 3DR in Tornado Red with a reversing camera and dynaudio.
List Price: £27,390
Discount @ 17%
Price: £22,754
A trick for everyone: On the PCP, I have opted for 5k pa. I will do 15k pa, but as the residuals on the GTD are stupidly good, this works out cheaper. GFV's for a 3 year old GTD with 45k is £13,000, one with 15k is £16,000. £3,000 Difference. 30,000 miles @ 7.2p excess mileage charge = £2,160. So £840 cheaper. If I do less that 15k, I will obviously save more!
So price at £22,754
Deposit: £1,000
Balance £21,754
Price after interest: £24,549
GFV @ £16,000
Difference = £8,549
Over 35 months: £244.27p
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Can you get me a deal like that :grin:
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Phil117: You'll have paid around £560 more in extra interest by "saving" that £3k (and not paying it over the 36 month term), so about actual £280 savings, more if you don't end up doing £45k over 3 years.
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Phil117: You'll have paid around £560 more in extra interest by "saving" that £3k (and not paying it over the 36 month term), so about actual £280 savings, more if you don't end up doing £45k over 3 years.
Granted, but still a saving. And 15k will be my maximum, so hopefully my excess charge would be less, more like £1-1.5k.
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Drive the deal currently offers 13%
Its been 12% on the GTD DSG for the last three weeks or so that I have been checking - you could say 13% if you ordered last week for confirmation this week (but only as prices have just gone up by 1%)!
Is your chum prepared to offer that discount to members here?