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Title: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 11:31
Took the car out to the get myself a hair cut yesterday, which was only a 10min journey. Noticed a reoccurance of the yellow light that resembles a engine on the dash. Looked it up as a exhaust management fault. Parked up... came back to the car 30mins later and it wouldnt start.


RAC called... they couldnt start it either. The car was towed back to and now rests with VW!

sh!t car, sh!t engine, sh!t service... and the last new VW i will ever buy :angry:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 11:35
Took the car out to the get myself a hair cut yesterday, which was only a 10min journey. Noticed a reoccurance of the yellow light that resembles a engine on the dash. Looked it up as a exhaust management fault. Parked up... came back to the car 30mins later and it wouldnt start.
RAC called... they couldnt start it either. The car was towed back to and now rests with VW!
sh!t car, sh!t engine, sh!t service... and the last new VW i will ever buy :angry:

Temper, temper!
I'll send you one of these:
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac50/am1w/chillpill.jpg)



























































So sorry to hear this, but you did abuse her for ever and ever ......  :shocked:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 11:38
if you call driving a gti like it is supposed to be driven.. then yes i did.


as i was being towed a mk3 drove past me.... that was the final straw. I wont ever be getting a mk6 again
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: JC on 03 July 2011, 11:40
sorry to hear this but

as i was being towed a mk3 drove past me.... that was the final straw. I wont ever be getting a mk6 again

this has cheered me up no end, and even brought a lickle smile to my face  :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: RickS on 03 July 2011, 11:40
Took the car out to the get myself a hair cut yesterday, which was only a 10min journey. Noticed a reoccurance of the yellow light that resembles a engine on the dash. Looked it up as a exhaust management fault. Parked up... came back to the car 30mins later and it wouldnt start.


RAC called... they couldnt start it either. The car was towed back to and now rests with VW!

sh!t car, sh!t engine, sh!t service... and the last new VW i will ever buy :angry:
You say recurrence of the engine warning light, does that mean it's been on before but you ignored it or did nothing about it?
I can understand why you're upset but your final rant about how sh!t the car is etc is OTT and not correct for the vast majority of owners.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 11:42
Enough is Enough!  :kiss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtuHz4b_xV4&feature=related
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 11:44
Took the car out to the get myself a hair cut yesterday, which was only a 10min journey. Noticed a reoccurance of the yellow light that resembles a engine on the dash. Looked it up as a exhaust management fault. Parked up... came back to the car 30mins later and it wouldnt start.


RAC called... they couldnt start it either. The car was towed back to and now rests with VW!

sh!t car, sh!t engine, sh!t service... and the last new VW i will ever buy :angry:
You say recurrence of the engine warning light, does that mean it's been on before but you ignored it or did nothing about it?
I can understand why you're upset but your final rant about how sh!t the car is etc is OTT and not correct for the vast majority of owners.

the light has been on twice before and has taken VW 3 attempts to sort it. each time it has been in the garage and i have been given a sh!tty little fox to drive round in. With yesterday being saturday they couldnt even provide me with a car.

I stand by my original statement.... as the RAC man said "VW's currently have ALOT of issues with their cars"  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 11:46
Enough is Enough!  :kiss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtuHz4b_xV4&feature=related

oh dear you are old...

this is more my century

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2BNLJVY3Ag  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 03 July 2011, 11:47
Try dumping an extra 50-60 bhp through the standard internals and gearbox of a mk3 and see what happens after a short time!

Mind you, and extra 50-60 bhp was all that the mk3 needed! :grin:
Oh, and some decent shock absorbers, metal that didn't come out of a cheesegrater and styling that lacked any style.......

Well Gilly, at least when the old girl goes back to the lease company you won't be wiping any tears of regret from your eyes!!
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 11:50
Very true Exo!!

I feel sorry for the next owner... the car has always had issues, be it the wobbly wheel VW sold it with or issues with the engine. Good point made by the mechanic though. Why do americans refuse to give up their V8's, V10's, and V12's.... for little screamers as they call them  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 11:53
Enough is Enough!  :kiss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtuHz4b_xV4&feature=related
oh dear you are old...
this is more my century
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2BNLJVY3Ag 
:laugh:

You look great for your era I suppose. How do you drive a car with that strange body?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 12:04
Enough is Enough!  :kiss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtuHz4b_xV4&feature=related
oh dear you are old...
this is more my century
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2BNLJVY3Ag 
:laugh:

You look great for your era I suppose. How do you drive a car with that strange body?

I dont.. i just leave it parked anywhere other than my drive way and the car seems to get strange dents and dinks all over it. It must be trying to morph into a better shape  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 12:07
sorry to hear this but

as i was being towed a mk3 drove past me.... that was the final straw. I wont ever be getting a mk6 again

this has cheered me up no end, and even brought a lickle smile to my face  :smiley:

 :grin: my next door neighbour has a mk3... his is on his driveway, mine is at VW. His mother has a new polo.... seems to have spent more time off her drive than on it. I just dont buy into the hype anymore....  :undecided:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 12:27
Yes, Gillypoos. Dent catching seems to be a Mk6 GTI speciality. I have caught a few on my metalwork which have now been fixed. Now the glass parts seem to be self-harming. I eagerly await an engine failure though this may be unlikely as I drive sanely and have not fiddled with the car's heart, yet. I've also done some very secretive things to my engine which makes it run like a dream or a wet one, whichever is the more exciting.
I'll Gilly Wolfgang further on in his life, just before I get Son-of-Wolfgang.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimble on 03 July 2011, 15:04
Bad times mate! :sick:










Can i have first dibs on your LED's now? :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 15:06
Bad times mate! :sick:
Can i have first dibs on your LED's now? :evil:

You talkin' to me?
Then 'course you can in 2013 for £399.99.  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 15:25
will have to wait to see what they come back with tomorrow... hopefully they will break the whole car for spares  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 15:39
will have to wait to see what they come back with tomorrow... hopefully they will break the whole car for spares  :laugh:

You'll be shot of it in less than 3 months. Get youself a Jap car. Never go wrong as they love a bit of S&M.  :grin:

Are you housebound? At least you managed to have a haircut.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 03 July 2011, 15:46
not house bound thankfully.. i have hijacked my mums clio. great little car :cool:

and does twice the mpg my dads bmw does :sad:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 03 July 2011, 16:07
If you want reliable you buy Japanese. If you want sole you buy Italian. If you want marketing hype you buy German.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 03 July 2011, 19:59
BMWs are not as reliable as they once were now either sadly.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: andykram on 03 July 2011, 20:05
I ragged mine all the way from East Leeds to Ilkley and back today and it was fantastic. However, they've never ever been able to fix my alarm issue. The driver's window sounds like it's falling out of its runners when it goes up and down and I'm still not impressed that I have to paint over the rust on the wheel hubs.
Snoopy's comment though on reliability is spot on. Buy Japanese if you want reliability. But I do still love this GTi. The problem in my book is a s**t three year warranty. If Toyota can offer five years and VW are trying to overtake them to become the biggest car seller in the world why can't they offer 5 years too? This is the sole reason our lass will be getting an Astra convertible next and not a Golf - the 100 000 mile warranty. The hype on German cars is immense and we all in this country fall for it.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Buck on 03 July 2011, 20:47
Well Skoda's only a VW under another name isn't it? But they are good...

For me if I changed out of the Gold it'd be back into an Audi unless I could find somehting that actually made me feel as good when I was sat behind the wheel. Believe me when I came out of the Audi and bought the Golf, none of the other brands did anything near.  It's a tough one when you are spending so much cash but it is personal choice and the better warranties are going to sway a lot of people but I'd rather have a 3 year warranty that I never used rather than a 5 year one that was always being used if that makes sense?

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 03 July 2011, 20:49
Well Skoda's only a VW under another name isn't it? But they are good...

For me if I changed out of the Gold it'd be back into an Audi unless I could find somehting that actually made me feel as good when I was sat behind the wheel. Believe me when I came out of the Audi and bought the Golf, none of the other brands did anything near.  It's a tough one when you are spending so much cash but it is personal choice and the better warranties are going to sway a lot of people but I'd rather have a 3 year warranty that I never used rather than a 5 year one that was always being used if that makes sense?



I know I will get spanked for saying this but, in a years time the

FOCUS ST is out  :evil:



Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 21:12
I find the Golf to be a fantastic car. A couple of you, who have fiddled with the engine and its electronics, have got issues. Tart the car as much as you wish but leave the mechanicals, engine and its electronics alone. If you wished to have a faster car than the one you bought, then accept your mistake and change next time to a faster model or make.

All makes, including Japenese cars, have problems and I am sorry that you guys have been the unlucky ones. But the majority of us are delighted with our Golfs and this should say something about the product.

Best of luck with your new purchase.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 03 July 2011, 21:14
Like a prostitute that car of yours Gilly, you've shag the life out of it :grin:   
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 21:24
Like a prostitute that car of yours Gilly, you've shag the life out of  :grin:   

Even a seasoned hooker could not put up with his physical demands. His car is well and truly exhausted. Possibly DEAD. RIP.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: ajmoir36 on 03 July 2011, 21:45
My neighbour has a mk6 Golf GTI and it spent nearly 3 months with VW trying to fix a starting issue (they did manage to get him another GTI whilst they had it too well after a lengthy time with a Jetta diesel), they replaced lots to do with the fuel system and then eventually the ECU and then flashed it with new software, its now solved.  Even offered him an extended warrenty for free, which I think he took.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Buck on 03 July 2011, 22:02
Well Skoda's only a VW under another name isn't it? But they are good...

For me if I changed out of the Gold it'd be back into an Audi unless I could find somehting that actually made me feel as good when I was sat behind the wheel. Believe me when I came out of the Audi and bought the Golf, none of the other brands did anything near.  It's a tough one when you are spending so much cash but it is personal choice and the better warranties are going to sway a lot of people but I'd rather have a 3 year warranty that I never used rather than a 5 year one that was always being used if that makes sense?



I know I will get spanked for saying this but, in a years time the

FOCUS ST is out  :evil:



Jim



With an offer like that I thought Asker would have jumped in there!!  :grin:

Nice car to look at (even the wifey thinks they are nice) but not sure I could live with one?

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 03 July 2011, 22:05
Well Skoda's only a VW under another name isn't it? But they are good...

For me if I changed out of the Gold it'd be back into an Audi unless I could find somehting that actually made me feel as good when I was sat behind the wheel. Believe me when I came out of the Audi and bought the Golf, none of the other brands did anything near.  It's a tough one when you are spending so much cash but it is personal choice and the better warranties are going to sway a lot of people but I'd rather have a 3 year warranty that I never used rather than a 5 year one that was always being used if that makes sense?



I know I will get spanked for saying this but, in a years time the

FOCUS ST is out  :evil:



Jim



With an offer like that I thought Asker would have jumped in there!!  :grin:

Nice car to look at (even the wifey thinks they are nice) but not sure I could live with one?



Lets see in 18 months if anyone jumps the GTI ship and gets an ST

Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Saint Steve on 03 July 2011, 22:06
Took the car out to the get myself a hair cut yesterday, which was only a 10min journey. Noticed a reoccurance of the yellow light that resembles a engine on the dash. Looked it up as a exhaust management fault. Parked up... came back to the car 30mins later and it wouldnt start.


RAC called... they couldnt start it either. The car was towed back to and now rests with VW!

sh!t car, sh!t engine, sh!t service... and the last new VW i will ever buy :angry:
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it's a lease car isn't it, so still isn't yours lol


being serious though, I bet your happy it's not yours and you can walk away from it in this case.

pain in the arse as it's more about inconvenience then Buying another VW.

Hope it gets sorted soon as pal :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 03 July 2011, 22:07
^^^ Think that maybe the case because joe public will be priced out of the GTI mk7, they will be 30k +  :cry:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Saint Steve on 03 July 2011, 22:10
Ed35 has a reliable engine from what I gather :nerd:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 03 July 2011, 22:15
I know I will get spanked for saying this but, in a years time the
FOCUS ST is out  :evil:
Jim
With an offer like that I thought Asker would have jumped in there!!  :grin:
Nice car to look at (even the wifey thinks they are nice) but not sure I could live with one?

Adrian:
You have to stop wanting it by proxy. A Foukass, never. Hate the rear but that vile snout would turn me into a necrophilic maniac.  :sick:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 03 July 2011, 22:17
Ed35 has a reliable engine from what I gather :nerd:

The MK6 reliability seems no worse from what I can see, just the odd one with very bad experiences.  The people who have bad experiences speak louder than those who don't.


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 03 July 2011, 22:18
Ed35 has a reliable engine from what I gather :nerd:

The MK6 reliability seems no worse from what I can see, just the odd one with very bad experiences.  The people who have bad experiences speak louder than those who don't.


Jim

Esp Gilly throwing his rattle out  :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: The Doc on 03 July 2011, 22:45
Sorry for your pain.

So sorry I've made this sticky  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Buck on 04 July 2011, 00:07
I know I will get spanked for saying this but, in a years time the
FOCUS ST is out  :evil:
Jim
With an offer like that I thought Asker would have jumped in there!!  :grin:
Nice car to look at (even the wifey thinks they are nice) but not sure I could live with one?

Adrian:
You have to stop wanting it by proxy. A Foukass, never. Hate the rear but that vile snout would turn me into a necrophilic maniac.  :sick:


You have to stop these replies - I've just been told off for laughing at my iPhone!!
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 04 July 2011, 00:24
Adrian: You are quite wicked as you instigated it. I laugh at a much smaller Blackberry screen which is even more odd.

Now back to this burning topic! Can you imagine Gilly whizzing around in a demented state in his mother's cute Cleo? A sight to dream of and not to tell! :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2011, 10:53
The clio is great to drive... and the economy is an added bonus!

As for VW's yes they do sell the hype well and for those of you who like to mollycuddle your cars its a good choice. However for those of us who look for workhorse type attributes the GTI admittedly fails.

As for BMW's.... they are fantastically reliable providing they get driven lots. The complete opposite of the mk6 it seems.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 04 July 2011, 12:12
BMs don't have a good rep in the trade for been bullet proof, with customers in general maybe but there not reliable like some other makes and do some stupid things but feel free to fall for more German hype.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2011, 12:15
BMs don't have a good rep in the trade for been bullet proof, with customers in general maybe but there not reliable like some other makes and do some stupid things but feel free to fall for more German hype.

dont like jap
dont like mercedes (due to previous experiences)
not a fan of audi


what else is left?? :undecided:

p.s. I have a few friends in the trade and they all run BM's as their dailys.. as do most companies as their rep mobiles.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 04 July 2011, 12:20
As i said, your choice, if you want BMW you want BMW but you may end up with another bad car or you may get a good one. Just because its a rep mobile does not make it dependable. Well not from what im told by the guys who fix them.
You seem to have talked yourself into one by the replies so
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2011, 12:23
As i said, your choice, if you want BMW you want BMW but you may end up with another bad car or you may get a good one. Just because its a rep mobile does not make it dependable.

I agree... but you have to play the percentages. VW just arnt up to the job.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 04 July 2011, 12:27
I agree... but you have to play the percentages. VW just arnt up to the job.
The EA888 engine range is used in a wide range of veihcles including rep models yet there does not seem an outcry about it about anywere else.
First thing i always ask when i hear stories of cars engine problems is what has been done to it.
Mainly because of my own past experiences with modified cars. I killed a 1.8T but it was not VWs fault it was mine for believing the hype about a company and so i changing the mapping and this caused overfueling that killed it.
Companys don't build in margins in designs like they use to as they have much tigher tolerances and tighter budgets to work with. Things are not engineered like they were. As a designer im constantly battling the bean counter and want to over engineer but have to wind it back because of costs and rivals competition.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2011, 13:00
the Exhaust management light was an issue before anything was done to the car. I had to take the car to an indy and get it on a rolling road just so I could tell VW what was wrong with it.

These turbo'd cars just dont have the durablity as most na engines.. that seems to be the common factor.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Saint Steve on 04 July 2011, 13:46
BMs don't have a good rep in the trade for been bullet proof, with customers in general maybe but there not reliable like some other makes and do some stupid things but feel free to fall for more German hype.

dont like jap
dont like mercedes (due to previous experiences)
not a fan of audi


what else is left?? :undecided:

p.s. I have a few friends in the trade and they all run BM's as their dailys.. as do most companies as their rep mobiles.


Skoda
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 04 July 2011, 14:48
May I suggest Pubic Transport and Taxes for Gilly. :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2011, 15:18
May I suggest Pubic Transport and Taxes for Gilly. :grin:

you may... but it will never happen  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: The Doc on 04 July 2011, 21:47
The car I've owned and loved more than any other was my BMW 535d, I owned it for 2 and a half years and it never had a single fault - I loved it and so does the guy that works for me that was on my case to sell it to him and now owns it.

That said my Golf GTD has been faultless too  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Buck on 04 July 2011, 22:44
If you go down the BMW route, sterr clearof the 1-series - damn fugly car 'specially the 1-coupe  :sick:

3 coupe - now that can look nice with the M pack and get the 330D or 335D and that'll be like the brown stuff off a shovel.  Friend had the 330D and it was awesome although I think the cabin is a little bit too teutonic for my liking - prefer VW/Audi styling for the interior

Either that or a Clio Cup?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 04 July 2011, 22:59
i do quite like the clio's as it happens. good drivers car... only down side is poor cabin (compared to the golf anyway) and lack of space.


I imagine they would show a gti a clean pair of heels  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 04 July 2011, 23:23
i do quite like the clio's as it happens. good drivers car... only down side is poor cabin (compared to the golf anyway) and lack of space.


I imagine they would show a gti a clean pair of heels  :lipsrsealed:

Not quite....but very very close

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/anglesey_national.html

No.        Vehicle                             Time       
59   VW Golf GTI Mk. VI    01:08.4   
60   Peugeot RCZ GT THP200   01:08.4   
61   Lotus Elise 1.6                01:08.5   
62   VW Scirocco 2.0 TSI   01:08.6   
63   Renault Clio 197 Cup   01:08.7   
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 05 July 2011, 00:05
The only thing Gilly has not buggered on his car is the gearbox. Or has he? After all it IS a box. :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2011, 05:23
The thing with the Clio is (just like Honda R thingies) they have no mid range grunt what so ever. Put your foot down in top gear coming out of a motorway speed restriction zone and you can just watch all the Diesels disappearing into their smoke haze.
So you need to drop it down two gears. Which sounds like no bother at all. Until you've had to do it every time your car gets to a motorway hill. Then it gets a bit wearing.
8000 rpm is okay for mid life crisis motorbikes and track cars, torque is needed for road cars.

As the Yanks say: 'there's no substitute for cubic inches'. Or screamer pipes quite possibly.

Get something with BIG capacity Gilly, something that doesn't need a re-map to make it feel like it should. And then re-map it for good measure!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 05 July 2011, 08:46
i do quite like the clio's as it happens. good drivers car... only down side is poor cabin (compared to the golf anyway) and lack of space.


I imagine they would show a gti a clean pair of heels  :lipsrsealed:

I saw a Clio cup in silver down the motorway this morning. I'm not a lover of French cars but I would have to admit it did look the buisness.

The cars to small for me though and I need five doors.

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2011, 10:28
i do quite like the clio's as it happens. good drivers car... only down side is poor cabin (compared to the golf anyway) and lack of space.


I imagine they would show a gti a clean pair of heels  :lipsrsealed:

Not quite....but very very close

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/anglesey_national.html

No.        Vehicle                             Time       
59   VW Golf GTI Mk. VI    01:08.4   
60   Peugeot RCZ GT THP200   01:08.4   
61   Lotus Elise 1.6                01:08.5   
62   VW Scirocco 2.0 TSI   01:08.6   
63   Renault Clio 197 Cup   01:08.7   


that is much closer than I thought tbh. Although that looks like the 197... I would probably look at the 200 cup, which wud more than likely beat the GTI.

Agree with Exo there.... no replacement for displacement  :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2011, 13:17
new engine  :undecided:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 05 July 2011, 14:37
new engine  :undecided:

Congratulations. Well and truly fcuked at last.  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 05 July 2011, 16:11
new engine  :undecided:

If it wasn't a lease car that was due to go back very soon I'd say something sympathetic.
Ask 'em if they can chuck an R36 engine in there to tie you over for a while...... :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 05 July 2011, 16:34

Seeing as Gilly still has his R32 in his sig, i guess the only car for him is an R32, although getting in a MK5 after a MK6 is a big step back - cabin wise.



Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2011, 20:49

Seeing as Gilly still has his R32 in his sig, i guess the only car for him is an R32, although getting in a MK5 after a MK6 is a big step back - cabin wise.



Jim

cabin wise yes... without a doubt. the rest of it  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 05 July 2011, 20:52
Seeing as Gilly still has his R32 in his sig, i guess the only car for him is an R32, although getting in a MK5 after a MK6 is a big step back - cabin wise.
Jim
cabin wise yes... without a doubt. the rest of it  :lipsrsealed:

You can retro-fit a MK6 interior, can't you?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2011, 20:53
Seeing as Gilly still has his R32 in his sig, i guess the only car for him is an R32, although getting in a MK5 after a MK6 is a big step back - cabin wise.
Jim
cabin wise yes... without a doubt. the rest of it  :lipsrsealed:

You can retro-fit a MK6 interior, can't you?  :rolleyes:

i cant change a light bulb.. so i doubt it :cool:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 05 July 2011, 21:03
Seeing as Gilly still has his R32 in his sig, i guess the only car for him is an R32, although getting in a MK5 after a MK6 is a big step back - cabin wise.
Jim
cabin wise yes... without a doubt. the rest of it  :lipsrsealed:
You can retro-fit a MK6 interior, can't you?  :rolleyes:
i cant change a light bulb.. so i doubt it :cool:

Darren (mortygt140) can.  :wink:
I am like you. I hate manual labour. :smug: :cool:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 05 July 2011, 23:10
i only prefer the centre console...the dials on the mk5 are better!


does this mean my mileage gets reset to zero?? :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Buck on 06 July 2011, 00:03
Erm no!!

Partner at work just had a new engine in his LR Disco. Told to carry on exactly as if it was the old engine. 
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 06 July 2011, 10:04
Feel your pain Gilly, especially as it was you who took the time & trouble to help me out deciding on a certain car you used to own, and which I've loved every last mile (apart from the few back from the airport at 1am when she decided to blow a coilpack!!). Hope all goes well from now on!
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 06 July 2011, 11:48
Feel your pain Gilly, especially as it was you who took the time & trouble to help me out deciding on a certain car you used to own, and which I've loved every last mile (apart from the few back from the airport at 1am when she decided to blow a coilpack!!). Hope all goes well from now on!

Cheers pal!  :cool:

I think i may soon be heading back in the same direction  :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 06 July 2011, 11:49
Erm no!!

Partner at work just had a new engine in his LR Disco. Told to carry on exactly as if it was the old engine. 


thats pants!!  :angry:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 06 July 2011, 14:43
I'm not supprised your cars been in and out the garage a few times. My sisters other half has just left a flagship audi dealer as he is sick of their unrealistic targets for carrying out servicing and repair works. He was a senior master technician their and often had to knowingly send cars out with faults as management would not allow them the additional time required to fix them correctly. The final straw was then they sent letters to the technicians telling them if they didn't meet targets three months in a row they would get a written warning. Seems unfair to me for what audi charge their customers!

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 06 July 2011, 18:02
I'm not supprised your cars been in and out the garage a few times. My sisters other half has just left a flagship audi dealer as he is sick of their unrealistic targets for carrying out servicing and repair works. He was a senior master technician their and often had to knowingly send cars out with faults as management would not allow them the additional time required to fix them correctly. The final straw was then they sent letters to the technicians telling them if they didn't meet targets three months in a row they would get a written warning. Seems unfair to me for what audi charge their customers!
I work with trucks and our garage is much the same. Where once the standards of service were well above the minimum now they are at the legal minimum. Any faults are bodged and left until the vehicle either becomes illegal to drive or the fault lets go big time.

Bang goes your staff VAG discount now Martin! Who does the brother in law work for now?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 07 July 2011, 10:34
I'm not supprised your cars been in and out the garage a few times. My sisters other half has just left a flagship audi dealer as he is sick of their unrealistic targets for carrying out servicing and repair works. He was a senior master technician their and often had to knowingly send cars out with faults as management would not allow them the additional time required to fix them correctly. The final straw was then they sent letters to the technicians telling them if they didn't meet targets three months in a row they would get a written warning. Seems unfair to me for what audi charge their customers!
I work with trucks and our garage is much the same. Where once the standards of service were well above the minimum now they are at the legal minimum. Any faults are bodged and left until the vehicle either becomes illegal to drive or the fault lets go big time.

Bang goes your staff VAG discount now Martin! Who does the brother in law work for now?

Yep the downside for me is loosing the VAG discount  :cry:. His gone to work for a family run Vauxhall dealership (for a wee bit more money as well)..... and no I'm not going to buy a Vauxhall now!  :smiley:


Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Horney on 07 July 2011, 11:13
Modern VW's seem a bit pants. My Unlce and a friend have both got 2010 Polo's and both spend most of their time at the dealers. I think there's just too much technology in them these days.

I hope your new engine is a good one.

Nick
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 07 July 2011, 11:14
Modern VW's seem a bit pants. My Unlce and a friend have both got 2010 Polo's and both spend most of their time at the dealers. I think there's just too much technology in them these days.
I hope your new engine is a good one.

Nick

think you have pretty much nailed it there...  :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 08 July 2011, 17:56
Modern VW's seem a bit pants. My Unlce and a friend have both got 2010 Polo's and both spend most of their time at the dealers. I think there's just too much technology in them these days.
I hope your new engine is a good one.

Nick

think you have pretty much nailed it there...  :wink: :smiley:


Been given a brand new polo as a courtesy car also.... the build quality on this thing is shocking!!!!


Water quite easily flows in through the drivers door side. Water splashing everywhere as I am going around corners!


I would NEVER get a new VW again.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: GolfTi on 08 July 2011, 20:25
Gilly
VWs are great cars, well built and reliable (mostly), the Polos are fine for what they are.

16k no problems, no problems with the mk5 (20k), a few minor ones with the mk4 (80k) all sorted under warranty from a brilliant dealer.

You hate your car and it hates you back.

GTI karma.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 08 July 2011, 20:46
Gilly and GITTY have never hit it off. The divorce is nigh. Praise the Lord.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 08 July 2011, 21:22
Trouble was, he was dropping down a level;)
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 08 July 2011, 22:07
Trouble was, he was dropping down a level;)

Nice to be grounded, sometimes.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 09 July 2011, 00:53
Trouble was, he was dropping down a level;)


Have to agree... the mk6 is simply a "milk the customers as much as possible" VW speciality. no different from what any business would do if they could get away with it.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 09 July 2011, 01:18
I have owned my GTI for nearly 16 months and have driven it over 120 miles per week in stop start traffic. This does not bode well for the engine. Besides, the roads I have to use are profusely peppered with some serious potholes some of which I cannot avoid. The car has not missed a beat, has no rattles and drives superbly. I have no complaints about the overall fit and finish and its mechanical refinement. I would recommend the GTI without any hesitation.
It is sad that your experience is the polar opposite.
I really do hope that there is a car out there for you,Gilly.
All the best in your search for your new car.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 09 July 2011, 01:49
i have done over 30k in less than 2yrs. 90% of the time i am driving somewhere i need to have been there 20 mins ago. Hence the need for more power (210bhp is pretty crap for a modern day hatch by any standard), which is great in the dry, but pretty much useless in any other conditions. It is the UK after all.

Although i know many on here have purchased the GTI to enjoy every now and then (and can appreciate that) the GTI as a tool, just isnt that great in my book.

Out of those 30k I would say only 5k is motorway miles.

For me the GTI has been a massive disappointment. Im sure I would enjoy it more if it was just a weekend car... but its not, and I very rarely have weekends free anyway :laugh:.


Title: Re: Enough
Post by: JC on 09 July 2011, 06:22
I'm not supprised your cars been in and out the garage a few times. My sisters other half has just left a flagship audi dealer as he is sick of their unrealistic targets for carrying out servicing and repair works. He was a senior master technician their and often had to knowingly send cars out with faults as management would not allow them the additional time required to fix them correctly. The final straw was then they sent letters to the technicians telling them if they didn't meet targets three months in a row they would get a written warning. Seems unfair to me for what audi charge their customers!
I work with trucks and our garage is much the same. Where once the standards of service were well above the minimum now they are at the legal minimum. Any faults are bodged and left until the vehicle either becomes illegal to drive or the fault lets go big time.

Bang goes your staff VAG discount now Martin! Who does the brother in law work for now?

Yep the downside for me is loosing the VAG discount  :cry:. His gone to work for a family run Vauxhall dealership (for a wee bit more money as well)..... and no I'm not going to buy a Vauxhall now!  :smiley:




not near Reading is it ?  :smiley:

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 09 July 2011, 10:55
I'm not supprised your cars been in and out the garage a few times. My sisters other half has just left a flagship audi dealer as he is sick of their unrealistic targets for carrying out servicing and repair works. He was a senior master technician their and often had to knowingly send cars out with faults as management would not allow them the additional time required to fix them correctly. The final straw was then they sent letters to the technicians telling them if they didn't meet targets three months in a row they would get a written warning. Seems unfair to me for what audi charge their customers!
I work with trucks and our garage is much the same. Where once the standards of service were well above the minimum now they are at the legal minimum. Any faults are bodged and left until the vehicle either becomes illegal to drive or the fault lets go big time.

Bang goes your staff VAG discount now Martin! Who does the brother in law work for now?

Yep the downside for me is loosing the VAG discount  :cry:. His gone to work for a family run Vauxhall dealership (for a wee bit more money as well)..... and no I'm not going to buy a Vauxhall now!  :smiley:




not near Reading is it ?  :smiley:



No in West Sussex Chuff  :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 09 July 2011, 18:15
Trouble was, he was dropping down a level;)


Have to agree... the mk6 is simply a "milk the customers as much as possible" VW speciality. no different from what any business would do if they could get away with it.

Whilst i sympathise with you over all the cr@p you've had to put up with your car but you seem to think all MK6 GTI's are useless, badly put together, unreliable etc yet you appear to be one of very few that have had major issues.

I think you've been very unlucky whilst the vast majority of people here love their cars and haven't had a major issues or any at all.

I hope you find a car that doesn't give you the bad experiences you've had with the MK6.


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 10 July 2011, 12:47
The reason why its Fu*ked is because Gilly has tore the arse out of it  :kiss:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 10 July 2011, 12:54
I still dont understand why people seem to think i have destroyed my car. Because i dont wash it?? or would that be because i drive it harder than most??


As much as you would all like to belive that the mk6 GTI is the greatest car ever... it simply isnt. Its an overpriced, poorly made, vw marketing dept's golden egg.

If you are enjoying your GTI then good on you.. im sure Mr VW is enjoying your £20k+ a whole lot more
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 10 July 2011, 13:34
I still dont understand why people seem to think i have destroyed my car. Because i dont wash it?? or would that be because i drive it harder than most??


As much as you would all like to belive that the mk6 GTI is the greatest car ever... it simply isnt. Its an overpriced, poorly made, vw marketing dept's golden egg.

If you are enjoying your GTI then good on you.. im sure Mr VW is enjoying your £20k+ a whole lot more
So what's a better car for the money then Gilly , I mean pound for pound ? :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 10 July 2011, 17:30
I still dont understand why people seem to think i have destroyed my car. Because i dont wash it?? or would that be because i drive it harder than most??


As much as you would all like to belive that the mk6 GTI is the greatest car ever... it simply isnt. Its an overpriced, poorly made, vw marketing dept's golden egg.

If you are enjoying your GTI then good on you.. im sure Mr VW is enjoying your £20k+ a whole lot more
So what's a better car for the money then Gilly , I mean pound for pound ? :wink:


the focus, civic, mazda, renault... virtually anything. you either buy into the vw b0ll0x about reliability or you dont... ask the mk1, mk2, mk3, mk4 owners about the reliability  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 10 July 2011, 17:35
I still dont understand why people seem to think i have destroyed my car. Because i dont wash it?? or would that be because i drive it harder than most??


As much as you would all like to belive that the mk6 GTI is the greatest car ever... it simply isnt. Its an overpriced, poorly made, vw marketing dept's golden egg.

If you are enjoying your GTI then good on you.. im sure Mr VW is enjoying your £20k+ a whole lot more
So what's a better car for the money then Gilly , I mean pound for pound ? :wink:


the focus, civic, mazda, renault... virtually anything. you either buy into the vw b0ll0x about reliability or you dont... ask the mk1, mk2, mk3, mk4 owners about the reliability  :rolleyes:


LMFAO - Ford, Mazda Renault.....
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 10 July 2011, 17:38

Renault

Last year’s position 29th out of 30
Cars needing repair work 45%
Average repair cost £227
Star model Clio (’05-’09)
The humble Clio (’05-’09) turned in Renault’s best performance, with 20 cars per 100 requiring attention. Unfortunately this was a long way ahead of the rest of the range, as the next-closest car was the older Clio
(’98-’05) with 32 faults per 100 cars. The majority of models score just one out of five for reliability; electrical gremlins accounted for 43% of failures.

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 10 July 2011, 17:42
the focus, civic, mazda, renault... virtually anything. you either buy into the vw b0ll0x about reliability or you dont... ask the mk1, mk2, mk3, mk4 owners about the reliability  :rolleyes:
Not sure what you meen by the mk1 mk2 mk3 mk4 coment? If your saying there unreliable i disagree.
I have owned a mk1 since 1989 and it has been bomb proof. I was in my teens when i bought it so i drove it v.v.v.v.v.v hard, like i stole it!. Its never let me down always started first time and always just went. I spent that time of my life fixing mates fords/vauxhalls so the VW impressed me as it did what they could not. The mk1 was used as my daily driver until ~1998 and then back as my daily 4 years later for a few years. Its never needed any engine work and anything that did need attension was simply things like exhaust/brakes/tyres/suspension/clutch/paint due to age catching up with it.

Must admit though the mk6 has not impressed me at all in alot of areas. The mk6 may handle and be more powerful and be nice to drive but to me thats not all a car should be. To the point i often think of selling it and just using the money to nut and bolt rebuild the mk2 to use as my daily, with the mk2s simple engineering and mechanicals theres little to no electronics to worry about either.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 10 July 2011, 17:48
I still dont understand why people seem to think i have destroyed my car. Because i dont wash it?? or would that be because i drive it harder than most??


As much as you would all like to belive that the mk6 GTI is the greatest car ever... it simply isnt. Its an overpriced, poorly made, vw marketing dept's golden egg.

If you are enjoying your GTI then good on you.. im sure Mr VW is enjoying your £20k+ a whole lot more
So what's a better car for the money then Gilly , I mean pound for pound ? :wink:


the focus, civic, mazda, renault... virtually anything. you either buy into the vw b0ll0x about reliability or you dont... ask the mk1, mk2, mk3, mk4 owners about the reliability  :rolleyes:


LMFAO - Ford, Mazda Renault.....

Ford, Mazda and Renault came below VW.

http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/jd-power-survey-2011/small-family-car-winner/257096
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 10 July 2011, 18:01
Nothing wrong with using the Gti as it should be used  :cool: Cos i do and without a hiccup in 25k, engine just gets better  :smiley:

Think you got a Friday afternoon one Gilly  :angry:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 10 July 2011, 18:10
love all the replies from people who look up rating from the net..... my gti is a pile of sh1t, but i dont go online telling whatcar about it
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 10 July 2011, 18:13
love all the replies from people who look up rating from the net..... my gti is a pile of sh1t, but i dont go online telling whatcar about it

 :grin: You tell em Gilly  :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 10 July 2011, 18:13
The Skoda Octavia looks like sh!t, the Audi A3 Sportback looks like sh!t, the VW 'rocco looks like sh!t, the Seat Leon looks like sh!t, the Ford Focus looks like sh!t, the Alfa Gulietta looks a bit like the Vauxhall Astra which looks like sh!t, the BMW 1 Series looks worse than sh!t, the Kia's and Hyundai's look like sh!t, the Renault Megane looks like sh!t, the Fiats look like sh!t, the Citreon DSs look OK, the VW Golf GTI and its siblings look lovely, to my eyes. I think I've covered most of the family hatchbacks.
I have made the right choice. Now it's your turn Gilly.  :grin:


























Had my eyes checked today. :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 10 July 2011, 18:19
love all the replies from people who look up rating from the net..... my gti is a pile of sh1t, but i dont go online telling whatcar about it

Exactly my point - your car is a pile of sh!t, mine isn't (yet)


Your point is all GTI's are ca@p, sorry but looking up the numbers of people effected by cr@p cars helps people decide on the reliability of all the cars sold not just one car in thousands.  I feel your pain but you're wrong to say because you had a bad one they are all bad.

Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Horney on 10 July 2011, 18:26
VW reliability is based to a certain extent on the past. Certainly the MKI and MKII era they were leagues ahead of the competition. You only have to look at how many MKII's are still toiling about on daily duty on this countries roads compared to similar aged fords, vauxhalls etc. My 2000 Polo (Touch wood) has been the most reliable and cheap to run car I have ever owned and that gets thrashed to within an inch of it's life and neglected badly, it's currently on 142K.

Modern cars in general are less reliable than older cars due to all the complicated technology. Ask any AA man and he'll tell you most stuff break down these days due to electronic/software issue, a small electrical issue on a modern car is a total ball ache to trace and repair. Add to this that most dealerships now only have 'fitters' and not actual mechanics, they struggle to resolve an issue that isn't a straight part replacement flagge dup by fault scan. Actual mechanical issues are much rarer. This applies to pretty much all brands. I think this is one of the reasons the costs of new cars are going up so much, they have to cover the future costs of warranty work.

Nick
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: mike. on 10 July 2011, 19:21
Yea, I think it just goes on experience

I have had a MK2, MK4, MK5, and now the MK6 GTI and my wife has a 9 year old Lupo GTI and have never have had any problems with any of them so will probably get a MK7.

As far as my experience goes, Volkswagens are totaly reliable and I can never understand why people join the AA or RAC  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 10 July 2011, 19:26
Yea, I think it just goes on experience
I have had a MK2, MK4, MK5, and now the MK6 GTI and my wife has a 9 year old Lupo GTI and have never have had any problems with any of them so will probably get a MK7.
As far as my experience goes Volkswagens are totaly reliable and I can never understand why peeople join the AA or RAC  :laugh:

Being a dandy, to replace a flat! :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 10 July 2011, 20:08
Get a nice white RS Focus mate , they look the Bollicks  :cool:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 10 July 2011, 20:27
Get a nice white RS Focus mate , they look the Bollicks  :cool:

The RS was the only real contender to the GTI for me, not in white though - Blue.

I was put off by the MP350 (Mountune version) it was MAD!


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 10 July 2011, 20:54
Now don't be angry with me Gillypoos.  :kiss:
You re-mapped your car and then drove it at 10/10ths all the time. It's a shopping trolly not a rally car. You also used Tesco fuel which is not the best even though it is 99 RON. You've been unlucky, possibly. But we also make our own luck.  :wink: 

The GTI is still an amazing car, but not for you, not now, not tomorrow, not ever.  :sad:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 10 July 2011, 21:09
Get a nice white RS Focus mate , they look the Bollicks  :cool:

The RS was the only real contender to the GTI for me, not in white though - Blue.

I was put off by the MP350 (Mountune version) it was MAD!


Jim

Only problem Jim they don't hold there price , but if you want a fast car pound for pound thats the one  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 11 July 2011, 00:32
Get a nice white RS Focus mate , they look the Bollicks  :cool:

The RS was the only real contender to the GTI for me, not in white though - Blue.

I was put off by the MP350 (Mountune version) it was MAD!


Jim

Only problem Jim they don't hold there price , but if you want a fast car pound for pound thats the one  :wink:

you want a fast car... dont buy FWD  :wink:


and before anyone quotes the renault times of the ring.... good luck with megane electronics!! been there, got the t-shirt :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 11 July 2011, 01:07
Get a nice white RS Focus mate , they look the Bollicks  :cool:
i wouldnt get a white car again... let alone a focus  :lipsrsealed:


stand out far too much... esp when being towed by a RAC van!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 18:59
Wooooo Hoooooo !!!!!!!


New engine!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 July 2011, 19:04
Wooooo Hoooooo !!!!!!!


New engine!!  :evil:

New car or new engine in old car?

Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: AlanD on 12 July 2011, 20:02
That fact he said new engine would point towards new engine in same car.

LOL . . . VW giving him a new car :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 July 2011, 20:50
That fact he said new engine would point towards new engine in same car.

LOL . . . VW giving him a new car :D :D :D :D

I meant, has he given up on the Golf and got a Renault......
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 21:27
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 12 July 2011, 21:31
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 12 July 2011, 21:33
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

Nothing a stage 2 and turbo back wont fix....



;o)
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 21:33
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 12 July 2011, 21:43
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:

You only got a few weeks left on lease anyway havn't ya  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 12 July 2011, 21:45
Wooooo Hoooooo !!!!!!!


New engine!!  :evil:

Quick poll. How long before Gilly f@cks his new engine up?  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 21:46
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:

You only got a few weeks left on lease anyway havn't ya  :rolleyes:

Yes.... which is why it would be rude to drive it without the map!!   :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 12 July 2011, 21:50
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:

You only got a few weeks left on lease anyway havn't ya  :rolleyes:

Yes.... which is why it would be rude to drive it without the map!!   :evil:

Have a word with the guys that installed the map, they should be able to re do it, its on the ecu not the engine ?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 21:54
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:

You only got a few weeks left on lease anyway havn't ya  :rolleyes:

Yes.... which is why it would be rude to drive it without the map!!   :evil:

Have a word with the guys that installed the map, they should be able to re do it, its on the ecu not the engine ?

Good stuff!!! always a fountain of knowledge Neil!!  :grin: :grin:

How long should i wait to run in... dealership guy said 1000miles, I dont often listen to what they say though!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 12 July 2011, 21:58
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:

You only got a few weeks left on lease anyway havn't ya  :rolleyes:

Yes.... which is why it would be rude to drive it without the map!!   :evil:

Have a word with the guys that installed the map, they should be able to re do it, its on the ecu not the engine ?

Good stuff!!! always a fountain of knowledge Neil!!  :grin: :grin:

How long should i wait to run in... dealership guy said 1000miles, I dont often listen to what they say though!!  :grin:

Tomorrow sounds like a plan to me  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 22:05
Same sh!t car... new engine :grin:

tbh it feels like a totally new car. old engine must have been loose and rattled about a fair bit!!

You got car back now then Gilly ?

 yep.. picked it up this afternoon!!

feels alot better may I add!! have to run it in again though  :undecided:

not sure if my map will go back on either  :cry:

You only got a few weeks left on lease anyway havn't ya  :rolleyes:

Yes.... which is why it would be rude to drive it without the map!!   :evil:

Have a word with the guys that installed the map, they should be able to re do it, its on the ecu not the engine ?

Good stuff!!! always a fountain of knowledge Neil!!  :grin: :grin:

How long should i wait to run in... dealership guy said 1000miles, I dont often listen to what they say though!!  :grin:

Tomorrow sounds like a plan to me  :grin: :grin:

Why wait until tomorrow?? will give it a blast on the way home tonight  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Neil gti on 12 July 2011, 22:09
^^^^ :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 12 July 2011, 22:13
Congratulations. That was quick. They probably had a new engine waiting for you all the time.
Don't bother running it in. Why change the habit of a lifetime. Go on, rev it to death red. It will be interesting to find out if it will last the remainder of the lease period.
On a serious note, I kept my revs below 4000 rpm for the first 1000 miles, then changed the oil + filter and canned it. But as you don't have this grace period, can it from tomorrow! It'll go BOOM! for the next owner. So what? :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 23:30
Congratulations. That was quick. They probably had a new engine waiting for you all the time.
Don't bother running it in. Why change the habit of a lifetime. Go on, rev it to death red. It will be interesting to find out if it will last the remainder of the lease period.
On a serious note, I kept my revs below 4000 rpm for the first 1000 miles, then changed the oil + filter and canned it. But as you don't have this grace period, can it from tomorrow! It'll go BOOM! for the next owner. So what? :evil:

omg!!! you read minds also... AMAZING!!
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 12 July 2011, 23:36
p.s. i am buying a new car tomorrow  :wink:

its roughly the same size as the GTI, has 5 doors, is quicker than the GTI... ??  any guesses :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 12 July 2011, 23:52
ENOUGH AREADY! I would not dare guess as I want you to surprise or sicken us. :kiss:
PM me and then I'll guess on the forum. :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 13 July 2011, 00:31
ENOUGH AREADY! I would not dare guess as I want you to surprise or sicken us. :kiss:
PM me and then I'll guess on the forum. :grin:

hmmmm naaaah!! i would rather make you wait  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 07:41
ENOUGH AREADY! I would not dare guess as I want you to surprise or sicken us. :kiss:
PM me and then I'll guess on the forum. :grin:

hmmmm naaaah!! i would rather make you wait  :grin: :grin:


SEAT Leon Cupra R I bet


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MDSS MK6 on 13 July 2011, 08:07
Did they happen to have an R32 looking for a home?;)
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 08:22
Did they happen to have an R32 looking for a home?;)

Can't be as Gilly said it's quicker than the GTI  :laugh:


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 13 July 2011, 10:19
A mazda 3 MPS?

http://www.mazda.co.uk/showroom/Mazda3MPS/mps-beauty/

^ My sister owns one of these monstrosities.  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 13 July 2011, 12:53
We all know it won't be white.  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 13 July 2011, 16:54
Did they happen to have an R32 looking for a home?;)

Can't be as Gilly said it's quicker than the GTI  :laugh:


Jim

the r32 would murder the ED30 let alone the GTI  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 18:01
Did they happen to have an R32 looking for a home?;)

Can't be as Gilly said it's quicker than the GTI  :laugh:


Jim

the r32 would murder the ED30 let alone the GTI  :lipsrsealed:

I know you don't like facts that prove you wrong but......


Autozeitung test track   R32 01:47.8   MK6 GTI   01:45.9
Inta                   R32 01:16.0   MK6 GTI    01:14.7

And in most cases the MK6 GTI beats the ED30 too.  In the interest of using facts there are tracks where the R32 is quicker but I put that down to they must be downhill and the fatness of the R32 falls down the hill quicker  :evil:

Source - http://www.fastestlaps.com/
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 13 July 2011, 21:00
TG Track

1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V
1:33.7 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI

The edition 30 was clocked at around the late 131's  :cool:


In a straight line and perfectly dry conditions the gti maybe quicker... but there is no if's and but's when you are in the R32  :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 21:45
TG Track

1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V
1:33.7 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI

The edition 30 was clocked at around the late 131's  :cool:


In a straight line and perfectly dry conditions the gti maybe quicker... but there is no if's and but's when you are in the R32  :wink:

All true but we have MK6 GTI's not MK5.


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 13 July 2011, 22:26
TG Track

1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V
1:33.7 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI

The edition 30 was clocked at around the late 131's  :cool:


In a straight line and perfectly dry conditions the gti maybe quicker... but there is no if's and but's when you are in the R32  :wink:

All true but we have MK6 GTI's not MK5.


Jim

true also... but the mk6 is a mk5 with a new engine, although not as powerful as the ed30


p.s. you were right about the car :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 22:27
TG Track

1:30.4 - Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V
1:33.7 - Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI

The edition 30 was clocked at around the late 131's  :cool:


In a straight line and perfectly dry conditions the gti maybe quicker... but there is no if's and but's when you are in the R32  :wink:

All true but we have MK6 GTI's not MK5.


Jim

true also... but the mk6 is a mk5 with a new engine, although not as powerful as the ed30


p.s. you were right about the car :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:

I knew it mate, because its the very same car I nearly bought - Proper bang for buck imo.



Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 13 July 2011, 22:34
I only bought it as a temporary stop gap until i decide what I want to get.. it was very cheap on an 07 plate. Dare I say it doesnt half shift as drives very well and feels solid.

Already noticed that the body panels are cheap quality and very flexible but im guessing this is down to weight saving  :grin:

Although on the other hand Xenons as std and a good std Bose stereo and plenty of room in the back also! May sell it on.. or just sit on it as a run about when the GTI goes :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 22:41
I only bought it as a temporary stop gap until i decide what I want to get.. it was very cheap on an 07 plate. Dare I say it doesnt half shift as drives very well and feels solid.

Already noticed that the body panels are cheap quality and very flexible but im guessing this is down to weight saving  :grin:

Although on the other hand Xenons as std and a good std Bose stereo and plenty of room in the back also! May sell it on.. or just sit on it as a run about when the GTI goes :smiley:

In that case I wasnt quite right as I thought you were getting the lastest 265 Cupra R.  Although if you like the 07 plater you still may get one. Fully loaded less than a year old and cost £20k instead of £28k!


Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 13 July 2011, 23:10
I only bought it as a temporary stop gap until i decide what I want to get.. it was very cheap on an 07 plate. Dare I say it doesnt half shift as drives very well and feels solid.

Already noticed that the body panels are cheap quality and very flexible but im guessing this is down to weight saving  :grin:

Although on the other hand Xenons as std and a good std Bose stereo and plenty of room in the back also! May sell it on.. or just sit on it as a run about when the GTI goes :smiley:

In that case I wasnt quite right as I thought you were getting the lastest 265 Cupra R.  Although if you like the 07 plater you still may get one. Fully loaded less than a year old and cost £20k instead of £28k!




lol... got it all wrong!! it was MAW73 that was right  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 13 July 2011, 23:28
I only bought it as a temporary stop gap until i decide what I want to get.. it was very cheap on an 07 plate. Dare I say it doesnt half shift as drives very well and feels solid.

Already noticed that the body panels are cheap quality and very flexible but im guessing this is down to weight saving  :grin:

Although on the other hand Xenons as std and a good std Bose stereo and plenty of room in the back also! May sell it on.. or just sit on it as a run about when the GTI goes :smiley:

In that case I wasnt quite right as I thought you were getting the lastest 265 Cupra R.  Although if you like the 07 plater you still may get one. Fully loaded less than a year old and cost £20k instead of £28k!




lol... got it all wrong!! it was MAW73 that was right  :laugh: :laugh:

Thats an odd choice considering your drive for perfection, not at all my cup of tea. But as i won't be driving your car who cares what i think.


I've no doubt it will put a huge smile on your face mate  :cool:


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 14 July 2011, 05:08
Oh deary, deary me. Presumably, it came with a good supply of brown paper bags for hejab use. :evil: :grin:
I dare not ask about the colour either 'cause it could be that Lime Green hue so beloved by the Seat 'taste police'. :sick:
Roll on September/October. Lots of new models will arrive for your pleasurable purposes and pursuits.
A very reserved congratulations for now. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: p3asa on 14 July 2011, 10:47
Oh deary, deary me. Presumably, it came with a good supply of brown paper bags for hejab use. :evil: :grin:
I dare not ask about the colour either 'cause it could be that Lime Green hue so beloved by the Seat 'taste police'. :sick:



It may well have been lime green had it been a Seat he bought but if it was MAW73's guess as he already said it was it won't be lime green as there are only a choice of 4 colours  :cry: And we think VW are bad!?!

I had a look at that and its packed with extras. Certainly different as I've only ever seen one on the road compared to the countless GTI's that whizz past me  :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 14 July 2011, 11:02
Ah, I now see! Thanks p3asa. This is what happens when one tries to follow Gilly on a Blackberry small screen, in the early hours of the morning and with Jim's numerous dropped signatures causing confusion!

Gilly, I like your choice. The Mazda 3MPS will be most reliable. Colour? Let me guess: Red?

Enjoy the ride. Piccy will be nice.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 14 July 2011, 12:59
Silver in colour... some nice 18" wheels. Needs a few slight cosmetic repairs due to car park dinks, but other than that handles 260bhp very well (as it should as std).

Very low key, one single exhaust, not shouty logos or anything just one mps badge on the back. It may have just turned up at the right time as the GTI has had to go back to the dealers AGAIN!!  :angry: :angry:

Very very cheap for an 07 plate...  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 14 July 2011, 13:09
Nice. I saw one in Silver 3 months ago and the colour suited the car.

Regarding your GIT, sorry GTI,  you must be sick to death of it and apoplectic by now. It is a bad 'un and best be out of sight and out of mind.

I admire you thinking out of the box. :smile:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: MAW73 on 14 July 2011, 15:39
I guessed correctly……..  ner ner ner ner na!   :smug: :smug:

My sisters got a 59 plate MPS and their very nice cars. I had a quick drive of it the other day but I couldn’t get to grips with the manual gear box having been so used to driving cars with DSG over the last few years. I really did notice how good the xenon’s are though compared to my piddly standard lights. The difference really is night and day. There a tinny and the dash is a wee bit plasticy for my liking compared to the golf there great cars for the money. I’ve owned a mazda 6 2.3 sport saloon a few years back and it was a very reliable. Anyway, good luck with it.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 14 July 2011, 17:22
Good guess Martin!
An interesting choice Gilly. We can look at it as you're either going to miss that VW feel that sort of gets under your skin, or you'll decide that there's a whole new world out there and never darken VAGs door again.

So, we'll see you back in a Golf again in the not too distant future then........... :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 14 July 2011, 18:45
I am so glad Gilly did not go the SEAT route which seems to be the default for the cash strapped VW Golf GTI owner when change is due. Anyway, the Mazda is only a stop-gap measure in his case. As Exonian said, there is a whole (SEATless and possibly VWless) world out there.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Jimmymature on 14 July 2011, 18:55
I am so glad Gilly did not go the SEAT route which seems to be the default for the cash strapped VW Golf GTI owner when change is due. As Exonian said, there is a whole SEATless (and possibly VWless) world out there.

I don't understand why some people think the MK6 section is full of snobs........


*Just in case sarcasm didn't translate well on the forum see above quote for an example....


Jim
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 14 July 2011, 20:24
Picked it up the  afternoon... blisteringly quick!! blisteringly juicy too!!

Its not as nice to drive or screwed together as the GTI but i do feel it has a better all round engine (make of that what you will, im not breaking it down for you  :tongue:)

I do like the fact its sooo subtle.... had my first kill on the way home too. Mr Audi A5 with roof down and looking like a prize cock!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 14 July 2011, 20:28
Picked it up the  afternoon... blisteringly quick!! blisteringly juicy too!!
Its not as nice to drive or screwed together as the GTI but i do feel it has a better all round engine (make of that what you will, im not breaking it down for you  :tongue:)
I do like the fact its sooo subtle.... had my first kill on the way home too. Mr Audi A5 with roof down and looking like a prize cock!!  :laugh:

Pleased thou art in bliss.
Could you not have increased the lease period for POSH?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 14 July 2011, 20:31
Picked it up the  afternoon... blisteringly quick!! blisteringly juicy too!!
Its not as nice to drive or screwed together as the GTI but i do feel it has a better all round engine (make of that what you will, im not breaking it down for you  :tongue:)
I do like the fact its sooo subtle.... had my first kill on the way home too. Mr Audi A5 with roof down and looking like a prize cock!!  :laugh:

Pleased thou art in bliss.
Could you not have increased the lease period for POSH?

Im not too sure tbh. I dont think I would have in any case, its cheap but i think i may take time out to try a few cars out  :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 14 July 2011, 20:36
Picked it up the  afternoon... blisteringly quick!! blisteringly juicy too!!
Its not as nice to drive or screwed together as the GTI but i do feel it has a better all round engine (make of that what you will, im not breaking it down for you  :tongue:)
I do like the fact its sooo subtle.... had my first kill on the way home too. Mr Audi A5 with roof down and looking like a prize cock!!  :laugh:
Pleased thou art in bliss.
Could you not have increased the lease period for POSH?

Im not too sure tbh. I dont think I would have in any case, its cheap but i think i may take time out to try a few cars out  :smiley:

Most lease companies allow this, either on a month by month basis or for an agreed set period and for no extra cost to you.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: GolfTi on 15 July 2011, 20:20
MazdaUK

Enjoy your car. :cool:

Title: Re: Enough
Post by: The Doc on 15 July 2011, 22:32
Can we have some pics?
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 15 July 2011, 22:42
Can we have some pics?

Yes, let's.
Still waiting for the pictures of the 19" BBS Wheels he put on POSH.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Steve30 on 16 July 2011, 07:50
Put it in your sig , lets see some pissed off people on here  :laugh:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 16 July 2011, 08:29
Come on Gilly, zoom zoom them. :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 16 July 2011, 17:42
Can we have some pics?

Yes, let's.
Still waiting for the pictures of the 19" BBS Wheels he put on POSH.  :rolleyes:

i posted a few pictures of those!!  :huh:

pics of the mps will be coming at some point this weekend :wink: seriously impressed with performance.. not so impressed with economy!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 08:40
Gilly, I have searched high and low and can't locate your 19". Must be going blind.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 17 July 2011, 11:43
I am so glad Gilly did not go the SEAT route which seems to be the default for the cash strapped VW Golf GTI owner when change is due. Anyway, the Mazda is only a stop-gap measure in his case. As Exonian said, there is a whole (SEATless and possibly VWless) world out there.
SEAT does not always meen cash strapped. I went over to SEATs in 1993 because VW was making wobbly barges(you would have liked the mk3's ride :tongue: ). Were as SEAT was putting mk3 golf GTI engines into the smaller lighter better suspensioned Ibiza GTIs and creating true mk2 golf GTI successors.
We still have SEATs in the family and apart from ultimate handling i still rate my Mk1 Leons way above my Mk6 GTI im sad to say.
I even testdrove and thought about the current Ibiza cupra when i bought the mk6 GTI as it would have done most things i wanted from a non family car just the complicated engine and DSG put me off . I sometimes think i made the wrong choice :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 12:30
Geoff: You DID make the right choice. The SEAT Leon Cupra looks like a cross between a duck, hippo and a lizard. It simply does not have the cache of a Golf let alone a GTI. Additionally, I would feel so sick looking at the Leon's dash, that I'd crash the thing
Now, go and get some decent shoes for Vicky. Her stunning blue dress needs some Jimmy Chews very urgently. :grin:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 17 July 2011, 13:06
It was the Ibiza not the leon i was looking at. Not a fan of the mk2 leons looks reminds me of one of these on its side.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N8fPn3aOL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

The 'blue dress' has a nasty bird poo remains stain on the front i need professional removed as its refusing to shift its left overs :cry:  :cry: :cry: :cry: and some burned in water marks on the shoulders  :cry:
Modern paint quality is poo :cry:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 17 July 2011, 13:41
Gilly, I have searched high and low and can't locate your 19". Must be going blind.

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=189279.0  :cool:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 13:43
It's still a SEAT.  :evil:
Have you read in Auto Express that the 7 Speed DSG rattles and clangs really loudly due to a design flaw and SEAT cannot fix it? How nice. :embarassed: :shocked:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 17 July 2011, 13:48
It's still a SEAT.  :evil:
Have you read in Auto Express that the 7 Speed DSG rattles and clangs really loudly due to a design flaw and SEAT cannot fix it? How nice. :embarassed: :shocked:
A bit like my door panels then......
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 13:59
It's still a SEAT.  :evil:
Have you read in Auto Express that the 7 Speed DSG rattles and clangs really loudly due to a design flaw and SEAT cannot fix it? How nice. :embarassed: :shocked:
A bit like my door panels then......

No, no, much, much worse. He thought the engine had fallen out!  :evil:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 17 July 2011, 14:01
It's still a SEAT.  :evil:
Have you read in Auto Express that the 7 Speed DSG rattles and clangs really loudly due to a design flaw and SEAT cannot fix it? How nice. :embarassed: :shocked:

Yes that same DSG as found in Polos and A1s.

I had a look at an A1 yesterday. Is the dash £5k better than an Ibizas? No, it was almost identical.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 14:06
It's still a SEAT.  :evil:
Have you read in Auto Express that the 7 Speed DSG rattles and clangs really loudly due to a design flaw and SEAT cannot fix it? How nice. :embarassed: :shocked:
Yes that same DSG as found in Polos and A1s.
I had a look at an A1 yesterday. Is the dash £5k better than an Ibizas? No, it was almost identical.

Ugly tarts car. The rear is weird and the snout shocking. It's not worth spitting on.  :evil: :smug:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 17 July 2011, 16:04
It's still a SEAT.  :evil:
Have you read in Auto Express that the 7 Speed DSG rattles and clangs really loudly due to a design flaw and SEAT cannot fix it? How nice. :embarassed: :shocked:
Yes that same DSG as found in Polos and A1s.
I had a look at an A1 yesterday. Is the dash £5k better than an Ibizas? No, it was almost identical.

Ugly tarts car. The rear is weird and the snout shocking. It's not worth spitting on.  :evil: :smug:
And its why we maybe getting one  :grin:
Looking at polo, ibiza and A1 and spec them similar and there all around the same price for what we looked at. :shocked: Polo delays are stupid too longest in the VW group, and there fit and finish before the dealers correct them during PDI is simply shocking, how they let them out the factory i will never know, totally shocked an ex FIAT/Alfa PDI who was with me at the time he looked like  :shocked:.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 19:25
Honestly Snoops, if you want a good runabout, get one of the new Kias. They are well made, drive well, reliable, long warranty etc. And I am being serious.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Snoopy on 17 July 2011, 19:37
I know but someones a badge snob  :undecided: (looks over shoulder)
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: am1w on 17 July 2011, 19:41
But please don't get a Polo as it will fall to bits.
And not an A1 as it will be as common as muck and driven by very strange people with fake tans! Trust me.
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 18 July 2011, 14:05
A Mazda for the kid who would never buy Jap.
Actions speak louder than words  :laugh:
BTW did you see the Nissan on Top Gear last night.  (on order)
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Exonian on 18 July 2011, 15:03
A Mazda for the kid who would never buy Jap.
Actions speak louder than words  :laugh:
BTW did you see the Nissan on Top Gear last night.  (on order)

A car that drives itself for someone that can't drive? It was a nice colour anyway!

We'll miss you on here Nosher.............a bit..........maybe.........not that we see you much these days..............
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: R32UK on 18 July 2011, 16:27
A Mazda for the kid who would never buy Jap.
Actions speak louder than words  :laugh:
BTW did you see the Nissan on Top Gear last night.  (on order)

techincally the car is not on my name  :wink: :smiley:

i bought it because its cheap... jap do that bit very well :cool:
Title: Re: Enough
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 21 July 2011, 19:10
Trip to the Alps via Nurburgring already booked.  My first car was a Datsun F11 120A semi-auto, like the Gt-R.