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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: mrjoe on 07 October 2009, 13:59
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I'm not sure if you know it already... but all GTI's built from November onwards will Have Led back lights.....
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Well they had better call it the mk7 or there will be hell to pay
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Well they had better call it the mk7 or there will be hell to pay
:grin: :grin: :grin: excellent!
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Is that standard or an option in the UK?
In Germany it's an option for 350 euro's
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Is that standard or an option in the UK?
In Germany it's an option for 350 euro's
Wow, that's quite a lot for an option. I was hoping to pay less than that for them as a part/accessory :sad:
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In Germany it's an option for 350 euro's
So how come they are shown standard on the volkswagen.de configurator?
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btw they are standard in the italian configurator as well, just checked....
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In Germany it's an option for 350 euro's
So how come they are shown standard on the volkswagen.de configurator?
Ok, when i look in de configurator in Germany it says 350 euro.........i don't understand
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Isn't this the LED taillights???;
SBBR-Leuchte mit Dioden (LED)
350,00 €
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Yep, my mistake. I've just checked the configurator again and they've updated it to show the LED's as a 350,00 € option.
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Well, I dont know how it will be in the UK but in the Netherlands, it will be sold as an option and I will order a set once it is available.... muawahahahahha
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Yep, my mistake. I've just checked the configurator again and they've updated it to show the LED's as a 350,00 € option.
You kno, i'm always right.......... :grin:
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I will confirm this tomorrow...
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But will they definitely be standard on a GTi in the UK ?
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Looks like another phone call to VW UK is in order....I did it last time, so someone else can this time.
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do any of you guys think there is any mileage in persuing the argument that (if these lights turn out to be standard in the UK) these should be retrofitted for free/discount by our various dealers? I personally don't mind car companies changing/tweaking cars after a year or two but to change the lights so massively after only 6 months is a right con job, particuarlly as i've only had mine a month and some people haven't even got theirs yet but as soon as they take delivery the next batch will have different and better lights - most irritating.
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do any of you guys think there is any mileage in persuing the argument
Not a hope in hell I'm afraid!
Thats just what VW do. I'm also a member on a Scirocco forum, and there are many p1ssed off people there who've just recieved there 2.0TSI 200bhp, to find out that now VW are supplying it with a 210bhp version (the same as MK6 GTI) as of build week 45. There are still people waiting for cars to be built in like week 43 etc - who won't get this upgrade! It really sucks - but thats just the way things happen.
We probably won't see the LED rears here for another good few months on a GTI. They're not on vw.co.uk yet - so its unlikely we'll see them this year.
The next thing is going to be the keyless entry / start button - which was showcased on the Golf R in Frankfurt. The first batch of R's won't have it - but afterwards it will be an option (or perhaps standard?). I don't think VW will recall the current R owners and retrofit that either I'm afraid.
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Looks like another phone call to VW UK is in order....I did it last time, so someone else can this time.
Tried this yesterday, but the guy I spoke to at VW HQ in Milton Keynes didn't even know when 2010 spec cars would be coming to the UK, let alone whether they'd be available with rear LEDs.
I asked about when Golf R prices would be confirmed and when I'd be able to order one. He couldn't answer that either.
I also asked about factory collection and specifying unique colours. Again, he didn't know the answer.
Thankfully, I get all the information I need here. Most of time it's accurate too! :grin:
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Who in their right mind would pay 350 Euros for some LED lights? Wouldn't it just make my mature, classy hot hatch look like a 17 year old Kevin's Saxo?
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do any of you guys think there is any mileage in persuing the argument that (if these lights turn out to be standard in the UK) these should be retrofitted for free/discount by our various dealers? I personally don't mind car companies changing/tweaking cars after a year or two but to change the lights so massively after only 6 months is a right con job, particuarlly as i've only had mine a month and some people haven't even got theirs yet but as soon as they take delivery the next batch will have different and better lights - most irritating.
Definately worth persuing mate. At the worst they are only gonna say no, and you'll then know for sure. As you have spent a good bit of cash on the car already, they may offer a discount for when they do become available.
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do any of you guys think there is any mileage in persuing the argument that (if these lights turn out to be standard in the UK) these should be retrofitted for free/discount by our various dealers? I personally don't mind car companies changing/tweaking cars after a year or two but to change the lights so massively after only 6 months is a right con job, particuarlly as i've only had mine a month and some people haven't even got theirs yet but as soon as they take delivery the next batch will have different and better lights - most irritating.
Definately worth persuing mate. At the worst they are only gonna say no, and you'll then know for sure. As you have spent a good bit of cash on the car already, they may offer a discount for when they do become available.
On the basis of 'you don't ask, you don't get' yeah why not.
On the basis of commercial reality I fear you will be told to go forth ...
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IMO the LED's looks better...and make the car look more Sporty and Hi tech! but is not the end of the world if I don't get them
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I'm sure Apple did something like this with something called an iPod or iPhone or something :tongue:
happens with all kinds of stuff, i.e. a company will release a product, then whilst people are still buying the old ones, bring out the new one then making people who bought the old one yesterday feel effing shafted. having said that with a car, due to the expense involved you would be especially peed off
tbh I doubt very much you will get these lights standard - VW isn't exactly a company known for it's 'value for money' is it? i reckon any way they can encourage you to spend more money they will go for.
however it would be a nice surprise and a very welcome one if they did for people still waiting for a new car.
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i think i'll have a go when they are available in the UK. but like you all say i reckon the answer will be no :angry:
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It'll still look like a 17 year old's Saxo with these lights!!!!
Naff, naff, naff.
How many times have you thought the A4 driver in your rear view mirror with those Christma Tree lights in his headlights loooks a co*k? Exactly!!! It's the same principle.
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How many times have you thought the A4 driver in your rear view mirror with those Christma Tree lights in his headlights loooks a co*k? Exactly!!! It's the same principle.
That's a good point actually. LED lights are like drugs/alcohol/tobacco, etc: you know you shouldn't but you just can't help wanting them :grin:
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How many times have you thought the A4 driver in your rear view mirror with those Christma Tree lights in his headlights loooks a co*k? Exactly!!! It's the same principle.
That's a good point actually. LED lights are like drugs/alcohol/tobacco, etc: you know you shouldn't but you just can't help wanting them :grin:
I'm gonna get called a cock anyway for having xenons so i'll take the hit twice, i aint fussed :grin:
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Why get called a cock for Xennons?
You bought a GTi for its looks and go, otherwise you would have bought a mk6 1.4 TSi, right?
Yes Xennons are way over priced, but even if they wasn't so much better for night driving than the standard setup I'd still buy them, cos they make the front end look much better.
Same story with the new rear lamps IMO.
As for the call, thats just plain stupid to think they would even consider replacing them. I've been waiting 8 months for an Edition 30 badge, so that would give you some idea of what they think at VW customer services.
Dave
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How many times have you thought the A4 driver in your rear view mirror with those Christma Tree lights in his headlights loooks a co*k? Exactly!!! It's the same principle.
our other car is an a4 and has those lights - they are the nuts! so i'm a c7ck for having those and a c7ck for having xenons!! :laugh:
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Why get called a cock for Xennons?
You bought a GTi for its looks and go, otherwise you would have bought a mk6 1.4 TSi, right?
Yes Xennons are way over priced, but even if they wasn't so much better for night driving than the standard setup I'd still buy them, cos they make the front end look much better.
Same story with the new rear lamps IMO.
As for the call, thats just plain stupid to think they would even consider replacing them. I've been waiting 8 months for an Edition 30 badge, so that would give you some idea of what they think at VW customer services.
Dave
Well thats what I've been told on here, with Xenons they will blind a lot of motorists.
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Hello, this is my first post on forum. I'm still waiting for my mk6 GTI which In July. Plesce can anyone give me the numer of these lighst because I would like to order them.
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Well thats what I've been told on here, with Xenons they will blind a lot of motorists.
Unless the levelling sensor is off balance, you shouldn't be blinding anyone! Xenons auto level - so when you're going up a hill, they won't point up into the driver infronts rear mirror. Techically they should blind people less - but becuase they're so bright, a lot of people moan about them!
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Well thats what I've been told on here, with Xenons they will blind a lot of motorists.
Unless the levelling sensor is off balance, you shouldn't be blinding anyone! Xenons auto level - so when you're going up a hill, they won't point up into the driver infronts rear mirror. Techically they should blind people less - but becuase they're so bright, a lot of people moan about them!
you dont need to tell me, just look through my previous posts and you;ll find people calling me a cock for speccing Xenons on my car.
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OK the subject of LED rear lights. I know they are on the German configurator but
I have a copy of the ENGINE AND SPECIFICATION CHANGES: WEEK 45 2009
This is the UK changes sent to UK dealer network from VW to let them know what is happening.
There is a couple of minor changes to the Golf but the only thing applicable to the GTI is
1)RNS510 sat nav is now also voice controlled.
2)needle design change on speedometer. (black line round its outer edge). Introduced gradually from week 45.
Only bit to do with the golf that talks about lights is that the S,SE,GT reflectors will now be cherry red.
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I did say:
Yep, my mistake. I've just checked the configurator again and they've updated it to show the LED's as a 350,00 € option.
1)RNS510 sat nav is now also voice controlled.
Cool.
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Anyone can help me what is the part. number of Led back lights ?
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LHD is 5K0 945 094 R
This talk of LED rear lights, on my way home i started looking at other cars and i did not notice until now how many other makes now have them as standard. :shocked: On my drive home i spotted New A4's, a Renault laguna, BMWs, and a citroen C5 all had them, get with the times VW :grin:
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If your a C*ck for getting Xennons, then they are all C*nts for not getting them, take that you none Xennon C*unt :shocked:
:grin: Sorry its been a long day for me.
Back on topic, why would they offet them as a cost option? surely this is just plain stupid, and we will get them in the UK a standard?
Dave
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ENGINE AND SPECIFICATION CHANGES: WEEK 45 2009
1)RNS510 sat nav is now also voice controlled.
Ahhh... so the rumours of the new RNS firmware coming out in week 45 must be true then!!!
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ENGINE AND SPECIFICATION CHANGES: WEEK 45 2009
1)RNS510 sat nav is now also voice controlled.
Ahhh... so the rumours of the new RNS firmware coming out in week 45 must be true then!!!
There's a RNS510 voice control clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxfhTE0gpeA&NR=1
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Not bad, dont like the red though. Looks almost pink on my screen.
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RNS 510 satnav integrated voice control
enabled by either the multi-function steering wheel or the head unit.
commands.
The Nav commands: navigation, map, enter country, enter city, enter up to five digits of postcode, enter house number, enter junction, activate route guidance, stop route guidance.
The Radio commands: channel (name), channel (number), frequency, next channel, previous channel, bandwidth, channel list, memory list.
CD commands: CD, next CD, previous CD, title (number), next title, previous title.
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Very expansive in Germany, assuming you need an adapter too to get it working;
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Motor-talk.de
GTI/GTD
5K0 945 093 R (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 R (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 K (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 K (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
Golf R/R-Line
5K0 945 093 P (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 P (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 L (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 L (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
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Anyone listned/watched that video clip ? I think phone jacker would have a field day with that. :laugh:
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Very expansive in Germany, assuming you need an adapter too to get it working;
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Motor-talk.de
GTI/GTD
5K0 945 093 R (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 R (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 K (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 K (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
Golf R/R-Line
5K0 945 093 P (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 P (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 L (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 L (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
I guess there's a difference between the GTI and R lights then - Are the R's darker or something?
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(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/utool_f_1253549401_880.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/utool_f_1253549308_880.jpg)
(R) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMsXauY87zU
(GTI) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdRRweOtaa8
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Thanks Snoopy - I'm surprised they bothered to do two different versions. If they can do that, then maybe they will make RHD versions for us as well.
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What kind of adapter do we need to install these lights ? Its big problem to get it ?
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Thanks Snoopy - I'm surprised they bothered to do two different versions. If they can do that, then maybe they will make RHD versions for us as well.
It'll be like the Edition 30 rear lights were darker than the GTI lights on the MK5. Its just a way of making the R ones a bit more exclusive!
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Must just be me, but those LED's on the GTI and the R look the same to me.
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What kind of adapter do we need to install these lights ? Its big problem to get it ?
I don't think we know yet. There was some info on the motor-talk.de forum suggesting different connectors but I guess we'll have to wait until someone decides to buy some. I vote FroGTI buys some first as he has a LHD car.
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Must just be me, but those LED's on the GTI and the R look the same to me.
+1
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I have put an initial order with my dealers for them... I too have LHD... Though its not on their systems yet, my dealer said he will do so when it is available... and will post up the price tag...
HM
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As I said.. Monday I will ring the dealer, and I will ask him to fit the Leds in my GTI which is going to be built in november... Hopefully first week of December I will be one of the first to have the Leds straight from the factory....
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Must just be me, but those LED's on the GTI and the R look the same to me.
+1
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If you look good to the GTi and R Youtube movie's you see the difference, especially when zooming in to the side
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If you look good to the GTi and R Youtube movie's you see the difference, especially when zooming in to the side
Yup... the R ones are definately a few shades darker!
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Ok, spoke to the dealer, and he confirmed that The golf GTI built from week 45 onward will have LED back lights, the price range is not confirmed, but it appears that if you order the xenons the LED are standards, is like leathers seats=heated seats.
I am talking for the Italian marker, but it shouldn't vary too much from the UK one!
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Ok, spoke to the dealer, and he confirmed that The golf GTI built from week 45 onward will have LED back lights, the price range is not confirmed, but it appears that if you order the xenons the LED are standards, is like leathers seats=heated seats.
I am talking for the Italian marker, but it shouldn't vary too much from the UK one!
You dont get heatest seats as standard when you buy leather though.
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Ok, spoke to the dealer, and he confirmed that The golf GTI built from week 45 onward will have LED back lights, the price range is not confirmed, but it appears that if you order the xenons the LED are standards, is like leathers seats=heated seats.
I am talking for the Italian marker, but it shouldn't vary too much from the UK one!
You dont get heatest seats as standard when you buy leather though.
mmmh,interesting... in Italy you do, lots of differences between european countries
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Ok, spoke to the dealer, and he confirmed that The golf GTI built from week 45 onward will have LED back lights, the price range is not confirmed, but it appears that if you order the xenons the LED are standards, is like leathers seats=heated seats.
I am talking for the Italian marker, but it shouldn't vary too much from the UK one!
You dont get heatest seats as standard when you buy leather though.
mmmh,interesting... in Italy you do, lots of differences between european countries
Ahh, forgot about different spec in different countries.
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You dont get heatest seats as standard when you buy leather though.
I think you do. I noticed because the winter pack is cheaper when you order the leather seats. And this was UK specs.
Rolfe.
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You dont get heatest seats as standard when you buy leather though.
I think you do. I noticed because the winter pack is cheaper when you order the leather seats. And this was UK specs.
Rolfe.
You can order leather seats without ordering the winter pack. It doesnt come as standard.
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I have the list for UK specs dated 1:5:2009 infront of me it does say in the 'vienna' leather seat option that heated front seats come with them.
I quote:
Upolstery and trims:
'vienna' leather1 : 'Vienna' leather upholstery including heated front sport seats, electrically-adjustable drivers's seat lumber support and front passenger's seat with lumber ajustment £1675
1 Some parts of leather interior will contain artificial leather.
Ok, spoke to the dealer, and he confirmed that The golf GTI built from week 45 onward will have LED back lights, the price range is not confirmed, but it appears that if you order the xenons the LED are standards, is like leathers seats=heated seats.
I am talking for the Italian marker, but it shouldn't vary too much from the UK one!
It would be nice if it did happen in the UK too but i don't think it will. The reason i say this is.
I have a direct copy of the Week45 build info sent to UK dealers from VW stating any design changes to the VW range and specification and option changes for the uk, from build week 45 on. it does not have in it anywere LED rear lights.
I would expect it to be in there if it was going to happen for the UK market as it included things like
The speedo needles will get a black line round its edge this will slowly be introduced from week 45,
RNS510 satnav will have integrated voice control.
1.4 122, 1.4 160, 2.0 140, 2.0 170 Will get visual gear change recomendation for manual boxes in multifuction computer.
SE Bluemotion Tec models removal of sport suspension
SE 1.6 TDI DSG Blue motion tec now available
GTD- XDS becomes standard.
S, SE and GT rear reflectors to become cherry red.
New engines: S 1.2 TSI 105 ,Bluemotion 1.6 TDI 105, SE 1.6 TDI 105 bluemotion tecnology
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I have the list for UK specs infront of me it does say in the 'vienna' leather seat option that heated front seats come with them.
I also have the Week45 build info sent to UK dealers stating any design changes to the VW range from build week 45 on. it does not have in it anywere LED rear lights.
It didnt when I was speccing up my car, that a recent change then ?
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With both the mk4 and mk5 heated seats came 'standard' with leather. I'd be really surprised if they didn't come as standard with leather as you really do need them in the winter. Kev maybe your dealer didn't know the full details of what he was selling (and in my experience this is on par for a VW dealer.. :rolleyes:)
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It didnt when I was speccing up my car, that a recent change then ?
It did when I was speccing up mine, which was about the same time, but honestly it was practically a state secret. I only realised when I was adding it up on DealDrivers, and saw the price of the winter pack was reduced if you had specified leather seats. Then I realised it was like that on the configurator too, just very very well disguised.
Rolfe.
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It didnt when I was speccing up my car, that a recent change then ?
It did when I was speccing up mine, which was about the same time, but honestly it was practically a state secret. I only realised when I was adding it up on DealDrivers, and saw the price of the winter pack was reduced if you had specified leather seats. Then I realised it was like that on the configurator too, just very very well disguised.
Rolfe.
I stand corrected then, apologies.
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No apologies necessary, I'm sure! :smiley:
Rolfe.
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I have leather but no winter pack and both seats are heated. One thing I am curious about though is that in a post above it suggests that the passenger seat lumbar support is manually adjusted whereas both of mine have electric adjusters...what happened there?, spec wrong or do I have a LHD driver seat as a passenger seat.? Anybody else checked theirs?
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I have leather but no winter pack and both seats are heated. One thing I am curious about though is that in a post above it suggests that the passenger seat lumbar support is manually adjusted whereas both of mine have electric adjusters...what happened there?, spec wrong or do I have a LHD driver seat as a passenger seat.? Anybody else checked theirs?
Both our seats are electronic :smiley:
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I have leather but no winter pack and both seats are heated. One thing I am curious about though is that in a post above it suggests that the passenger seat lumbar support is manually adjusted whereas both of mine have electric adjusters...what happened there?, spec wrong or do I have a LHD driver seat as a passenger seat.? Anybody else checked theirs?
Yeah i forgot, if you get the leather seats u get also the electric lumbar support. 100%sure
As with xenons you get the "leaving home coming home feature" and the headlights washer (dunno how they are called in english)
Basically if you order leather + xenons, the winter pack is included, except maybe the heated water for the windscreen
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But not having a heated windscreen, that last bit seems quite important to me.
Rolfe.
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True, but in that case i guess that if you want them, and u have the leather and xenons you are going to pay them A lot less than the standard winter pack.
Is actually clearer to me why Leather seats costs so much ( € 2.000ish is far from being a good price for leather ) and also xenons cost quite a lot ( 1.550ish )
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I have leather but no winter pack and both seats are heated. One thing I am curious about though is that in a post above it suggests that the passenger seat lumbar support is manually adjusted whereas both of mine have electric adjusters...what happened there?, spec wrong or do I have a LHD driver seat as a passenger seat.? Anybody else checked theirs?
Yeah i forgot, if you get the leather seats u get also the electric lumbar support. 100%sure
As with xenons you get the "leaving home coming home feature" and the headlights washer (dunno how they are called in english)
Basically if you order leather + xenons, the winter pack is included, except maybe the heated water for the windscreen
Leaving home / coming home feature comes with the convienience pack which is standard on GTI's (auto lights / wipers etc) at least in the UK.
Are you sure the electric lumbar adjustment is only with leather? With the mk5 it was standard on all seats but the other adjustments were manual?
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Very expansive in Germany, assuming you need an adapter too to get it working;
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Motor-talk.de
GTI/GTD
5K0 945 093 R (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 R (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 K (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 K (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
Golf R/R-Line
5K0 945 093 P (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 P (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 L (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 L (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
I guess there's a difference between the GTI and R lights then - Are the R's darker or something?
You are correct, the R ones are darker and you do not need anything extra to fit them in regarding to the Volkswagen HQ here in Sweden. All that are nowadays included in the lights itself.
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Anyone heard anything more on this for the UK?
I'm sure if we badger VW UK enough we will get them, right?
Dave
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Anyone heard anything more on this for the UK?
I'm sure if we badger VW UK enough we will get them, right?
Dave
I remember a few weeks back seeing a member flagged as MainDealer or something similar; perhaps this guy [who I'm assuming [??]] to be an authority on what informs VW minds, has an insight for us.
Ava
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I have heard nothing new.
If it was going to happen for the uk soon i would have expected it in the 'week45 engine and spec change' bulletin VW sent to uk dealers. Europeen dealers got a very similar one to us but it had the LED info in it the UK one did not.
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LHD is 5K0 945 094 R
This talk of LED rear lights, on my way home i started looking at other cars and i did not notice until now how many other makes now have them as standard. :shocked: On my drive home i spotted New A4's, a Renault laguna, BMWs, and a citroen C5 all had them, get with the times VW :grin:
VW have been fitting LED rear lights to models for years... Just not to the standard Golf!! Passat, Jetta, Golf Plus and Eos all have LED as standard as does the Phaeton. Not sure about the Touareg...
It's one of the down sides of buying a new model just after launch. I wouldn't be suprised if they change the wheels for 2010 model too....
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I guess we will all get them from ebay then, if VW UK don't offer them. http://cgi.ebay.de/Golf-6-Golf-VI-LED-Rueckleuchten-Hella-nagelneu-Hammer_W0QQitemZ200398073860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%F6r?hash=item2ea8a7f004 (http://cgi.ebay.de/Golf-6-Golf-VI-LED-Rueckleuchten-Hella-nagelneu-Hammer_W0QQitemZ200398073860QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%F6r?hash=item2ea8a7f004)
Anyone know what the standard plug looks like and how it compares to this one on the LED unit?
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4381/95419847.jpg)
Dave
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The LED's are part of the update of the 2010 golf, therefore I think UK will get them at some point.
Also I can tell you that those changes will be GRADUALLY introduced from week 45, therefore it is not compulsory that all the cars coming out after week 45 will have the "new" specs.
Remember that is a 2010 update
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Hi.
Just joined the forum.
I've just placed an order for a new GTI and as part of calling dealers \ brokers etc I also asked the LED question. That put the cat amongst them, and even got bounced from VW UK to VW .de for confirmation.
Dealers in UK I contacted (Inc the one where I'm buying the car from couldn't advise re LED lights). I called VW uk who advised don't know (or if will be part of 2010 spec cars as they didn't have that info yet).
However.... one VW dealer went to town on this for me (I advise would not buy the car at this point, if they were about to change it!).
What they asked and the responses:
LED in the UK from Nov onwards?...... No not at this time.
Would this be for 2010 spec cars?..... Can't get an answer
Will it be standard on GTI?................ No, the LED lights were options in de. Therefore if ever introduced in UK will prob be an option and not standard on the GTI.
My Build week (at present) is 03
Jelly
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I wonder if when they add the R models to the list for the Golf and Roc, they put the LED option on too.
I know we don't get all options from VW in the UK, but not too offer these seems silly when there is a lot of punters that would buy this option in the UK.
Dave
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I wonder if when they add the R models to the list for the Golf and Roc, they put the LED option on too.
I know we don't get all options from VW in the UK, but not too offer these seems silly when there is a lot of punters that would buy this option in the UK.
Dave
If they come on the RHD Golf R's, we'll be able to retro-fit them. If they don't, someone will find a way of swapping the fog and reverse lights and we'll be able to retro-fit them.
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I think when/if these LED's appear for the GTI, we have a good shout for a big group buy. I'd definately want them.
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LED's are standard on the UK spec Golf R (now on vw.co.uk web site at following link http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/golf-gti-vi/explore/gallery/golf-r-twin-exhausts/ ).
They actually do look nice (think rear lights change from Mk5 GTI which were excellent, to the older more bland looking lights on the Mk6 GTI was a poor move by VW). Note sure if they will change or add as an option for the Mk6 GTI (as still shows the cherry red clusters for the GTI in the VW gallery). However the price for the Golf R is nuts
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Well it seems they didn't change anything to the GTi spec when adding the R to VW.co.uk.
It looks as if in Italy these are a no cost option, when ordering a GTi now, and in Germany as with most of the other options we get as standard its a cost option, something like €365.
On that basis, as the Italians seem to get a similar spec car to us, and things like the light and sight pack and multifunction wheel are standard on the UK car, do you think UK 2010 cars will get this as std?
I can't see any reason why we would not, especially as I'm sure enough new buyers would be interested in them?
I'm pretty 99% sure I will get a GTi for late March delivery, so would like to know if these are going to be at least an option, when placing an order later this month.
Dave
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Well it seems they didn't change anything to the GTi spec when adding the R to VW.co.uk.
I'm pretty 99% sure I will get a GTi for late March delivery, so would like to know if these are going to be at least an option, when placing an order later this month.
Dave
All you can do is the ask the question of your supplier, Dave.
Ava
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Got to say these look way better than the normal rear lights. Not sure if the adaptors are from VW or are aftermarket.
(http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/118/2833/10204843/img-0988-10167.JPG)
(http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/118/2833/10204843/img-0989-47963.JPG)
(http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/118/2833/10204843/img-0990-38466.JPG)
Dave
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I think when/if these LED's appear for the GTI, we have a good shout for a big group buy. I'd definately want them.
Me too! Depends on cost!
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I reckon about €400 or £375 for a full set :sad:
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Same price as the fiscon. It will be nice if we can do something similar---price down to £300 with free fitting :smiley:
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Not fussed on the current GTI rear light's look old, the Mk5 ones were better.
However these LED rear lights could be just the ticket!
Fingers crossed they eventually do come to the UK, I keep going back to the vw online config tool to check, turning into a light geek!
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I emailed VW customer service in Germany and asked them the question, are they planning to introduce the LED rear lights as standard or an option in the near future ?
They passed my question on to their importer and eventully replied with :
I have spoken to our Sales Team who has confirmed that there are no plans in the near future to introduce rear LED lights as
standard or optional extras for UK vehicles. Your local Volkswagen retailer will be more than happy to keep you updated on the
lights should they be introduced in the future. Alternatively you can visit our website on www.volkswagen.co.uk.
I apologise that I am unable to be of any further assistance on this occasion. Thank you for contacting Volkswagen.
I really wanted to spec these when i order my car in January so it's a shame that they are not planning to introuduce them !
has anyone got any ideas as to why they wouldn't ?
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I wouldn't believe a word of that.
Big companies tell you one thing one day and do the opposite the next.
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I wouldn't believe a word of that.
Big companies tell you one thing one day and do the opposite the next.
I hope you right. I can't think of a good reason not to introduce them, unless they think that it some how takes away some prestige from the Golf R. Lots of people would buy them if available.
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And as if by magic :laugh: Looks like it will be an extra
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/315844.aspx (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/315844.aspx)
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And as if by magic :laugh: Looks like it will be an extra
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/315844.aspx (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/315844.aspx)
Have you stuck a GT badge on you're front grill p3asa?
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And as if by magic :laugh: Looks like it will be an extra
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/315844.aspx (http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/315844.aspx)
This is an option in Germany and Italy hence the euro price tag. Not an option here in £ ! I'm emigrating to Italy.
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On that press release it reckons they are standarad fit on GTD, GTi and R.
Wonder if that means we will get them standard fit next year then?
Dave
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Press release is badly written. If you re-read it, what it actually says is that LEDs are standard on the R and a €350 option on the GTI and GTD. Not available on other models, although I'm sure you'll be able to get them if you want 'em.
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So we still cant get these yet because they are for LHD only ?
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They look awful anyway, no idea why you are all so fussed!
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They look awful anyway, no idea why you are all so fussed!
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I quite like them (obviously a tad biased with my Golf R on order) - but I don't like them enough to pay extra for them! If they were a £350 optional extra, I wouldn't be ticking that box.
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Very expansive in Germany, assuming you need an adapter too to get it working;
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Motor-talk.de
GTI/GTD
5K0 945 093 R (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 R (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 K (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 K (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
Golf R/R-Line
5K0 945 093 P (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 P (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 L (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 L (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
hi there,
my car is although 2010 spec, just took delivery 3 weeks ago. It is without the LED lights.
May I know if i want to order, which part number shall I order? I don't understand those german in the bracket. I'd like to get the R ones.
Anyone also have the R front and rear bumper part number code?
much appreciate yourr response.
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Got to say these look way better than the normal rear lights. Not sure if the adaptors are from VW or are aftermarket.
(http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/118/2833/10204843/img-0988-10167.JPG)
(http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/118/2833/10204843/img-0989-47963.JPG)
(http://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/118/2833/10204843/img-0990-38466.JPG)
Dave
Dave,
CAn you tell me where you get these lights and adaptors? I really want to get it for my GTi.
thx
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Very expansive in Germany, assuming you need an adapter too to get it working;
Quote
Motor-talk.de
GTI/GTD
5K0 945 093 R (Left Inner) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 R (Right Inner) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 K (Left Outer) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 K (Right Outer) 142,80€
Golf R/R-Line
5K0 945 093 P (Links Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 094 P (Rechts Innen) 136,85€
5K0 945 095 L (Links Außen) 142,80€
5K0 945 096 L (Rechts Außen) 142,80€
hi there,
my car is although 2010 spec, just took delivery 3 weeks ago. It is without the LED lights.
May I know if i want to order, which part number shall I order? I don't understand those german in the bracket. I'd like to get the R ones.
Anyone also have the R front and rear bumper part number code?
much appreciate yourr response.
Difference between GTI and R is that the R model is darker. I ordered the darker, R ones for my GTI by talking to my dealer. The adaptor cables was hard to find and I have to wait for those before I could get them fitted. Very expensive thou...
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Thansk thanks ....
From the pictures, it looks like it's just a plug-in thing ..... can anyone confirm this?
Who's car is that?
Anyone know where I can buy these lights? Not working for RHD cars?
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I ordered the darker, R ones for my GTI by talking to my dealer. The adaptor cables was hard to find and I have to wait for those before I could get them fitted. Very expensive thou...
Can you give us a price breakdown? How much for the lights and how much for the adapter cables? Thanks.
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I think there is still some issues to overcome, when they are fitted. A few of the German posts are reporting that they get error messages or something when they are fitted, and are having to alter via VAGCOM.
I'm not sure if this sounds right, because I know nothing of VAGCOM but maybe someone could help on this?
Dave
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I can believe that: when I tried to swap the front sidelight & rear numberplate bulbs for LEDs, I immediately got an error message on the MFD :sad:
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A few of the German posts are reporting that they get error messages or something when they are fitted, and are having to alter via VAGCOM.
I can believe that: when I tried to swap the front sidelight & rear numberplate bulbs for LEDs, I immediately got an error message on the MFD :sad:
LED's generally draw far less current than filament bulbs, so the computer interprets that as a blown bulb and tells you on the MFD. For sidelight retro fits like FroGTI tried, you can get LED bulbs fitted with a resistor (or if you don't mind splicing into your headlight loom a separate resistor). I'm guessing the LED tail lights cause a similar issue but VCDS allows you to adjust settings accordingly.
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For the LED lights it seems impossible to get the original VW adaptor cables. I found mine on Kufatec. If you get error codes they sell a little dongle that fix that. (Still not for right hand drive thou)
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1602_LED-Rear-Lights---Adapter---VW-Golf-6-VI.html
http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html
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I would imagine we won't get them as an option even on the GTi.
We may well get them on any anniversary (Edition 35) type GTi they produce though.
Dave
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In the Netherlands I chose them on my new GTI..round 500 euro IIRC
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I would imagine we won't get them as an option even on the GTi.
We may well get them on any anniversary (Edition 35) type GTi they produce though.
Dave
You can get them as an option in Sweden. Costs about 290 GBP if you get them at the factory. I paid 450 when I bought them as a spare part from VW.
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When ordering my one of the dealers contacted VW and clarification was then requested from Germany so they went the whole hog to find out. The result is:
Rear LED lights are optional on GTI in germany etc BUT there are NO plans to release in the UK either as standard OR as an option.
Also it seems that VW are not going to fit to US cars either.
So basically if you're in the UK or the US you're NOT going to get LED lights on a GTI, even as an option.
However you never know it could change. Has anyone seen the light shapes on the polo, lenses look a lot like the LED ones lol.
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LED's are standard here in Norway. I'm getting my GTI in the beginning of april.
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Installing right now;
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/ronzuid/IMG_0286.jpg)
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LED ones are MUCH better !
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A great comparison - and thanks for taking the time to post the photo.
Ava
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Very nice against the white pain too, cheers for sharing with us :smiley:
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Installing right now.
Looks sweet! I plan to do the exact same thing to my car. Was it plug and play or did you have to buy adapter cables to avoid the car throwing fault codes all over the place? If so I would be very interested in part numbers. Thanks!
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Installing right now.
Looks sweet! I plan to do the exact same thing to my car. Was it plug and play or did you have to buy adapter cables to avoid the car throwing fault codes all over the place? If so I would be very interested in part numbers. Thanks!
You need adaptor cables and you will need VAG-COM or the dongle from Kufatec. You have all the info you'll need in this thread, including VW part numbers. Just be aware of that it will not work if you have a right-hand drive car.
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Just be aware of that it will not work if you have a right-hand drive car.
If you use the RHD Golf R tail lights, I can't see why not?
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Just be aware of that it will not work if you have a right-hand drive car.
If you use the RHD Golf R tail lights, I can't see why not?
VW doesn't seems to have the adaptor cables for any Golf car and Kufatec only supplies them for left-hand drive, at least so far.
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I don't know what yoy guys many, i bought 2 different connectors per unit by my dealer, 1 connector goes to the wire from te car and the other connector goes to the LED light, i just connected pin 1 from the car wire to pin 1 from the connector of the LED light, and also pin2 >> pin2 and Pin 3 >> pin3
So its just connecting.....
Just a connection between an existing thread and the new LED lamp
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I don't know what yoy guys many, i bought 2 different connectors per unit by my dealer, 1 connector goes to the wire from te car and the other connector goes to the LED light, i just connected pin 1 from the car wire to pin 1 from the connector of the LED light, and also pin2 >> pin2 and Pin 3 >> pin3
So its just connecting.....
Just a connection between an existing thread and the new LED lamp
Do you have a part number on the adaptor cables from VW?
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I need those LED lights now :sad:
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I need those LED lights now :sad:
Not as much as I do! :cool:
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Have to say, they do look pretty good.
Should we consider a group buy and try and get a discount? And see if kuftec can make a RHD cable connector?
Dave
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I bought these and found out they're not actually the real one .... but they're aren't bad looking at all.
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww8/revozport2/VW/Golf%20VI/Rear%20LED%20Lights/IMG_0622.jpg)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww8/revozport2/VW/Golf%20VI/Rear%20LED%20Lights/IMG_0623.jpg)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww8/revozport2/VW/Golf%20VI/Rear%20LED%20Lights/IMG_0629.jpg)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww8/revozport2/VW/Golf%20VI/Rear%20LED%20Lights/IMG_0630.jpg)
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And Later Tinted it to Red .....
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww8/revozport2/VW/Golf%20VI/Rear%20LED%20Lights/IMG_0735.jpg)
(http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww8/revozport2/VW/Golf%20VI/Rear%20LED%20Lights/IMG_0738.jpg)
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look pretty good, can you post some 'fitted' pics and price?
Cheers,
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Have to say, they do look pretty good.
Should we consider a group buy and try and get a discount? And see if kuftec can make a RHD cable connector?
Dave
Sounds like a plan.
Who's got good contacts?
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Sounds like a plan.
Who's got good contacts?
Get me proper vw ones not some Eastern European sh!t, And im very much interested.
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Anyone notice the new polos rear lights look a similar light patern shape to the LED golfs but use normal bulbs so look :sick: made me go off the led golf ones abit been behind a polo last night in traffic.
Anyone priced the LED rear RHD lights off the R yet in the UK?
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You can see just how much lighter the tint on the optional GTI ones are compared to the R.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/utool_f_1258439221_895.jpg)
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It might just be the lighting, but they look less tinted than the standard GTI lamps.
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Anyone notice the new polos rear lights look a similar light patern shape to the LED golfs but use normal bulbs so look :sick: made me go off the led golf ones abit been behind a polo last night in traffic.
Anyone priced the LED rear RHD lights off the R yet in the UK?
Yep list is £400 + VAT (Outer lights are £102, inner £98 each) :shocked:
PS - They are also on backorder from UK dealers :wink:
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Anyone notice the new polos rear lights look a similar light patern shape to the LED golfs but use normal bulbs so look :sick: made me go off the led golf ones abit been behind a polo last night in traffic.
Anyone priced the LED rear RHD lights off the R yet in the UK?
Yep list is £400 + VAT (Outer lights are £102, inner £98 each) :shocked:
PS - They are also on backorder from UK dealers :wink:
So we can order the R LED's ? They will fit onto the GTI ?
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Yes but the wiring/connectors are different. I have a set on order and am working on a set of adapters for the wiring :smiley:
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It might just be the lighting, but they look less tinted than the standard GTI lamps.
I have been looking at loads of photos of them fitted to many different mk6 cars today on a German forum and all of the GTI LED ones (rather than the R ones) look lighter than the standard GTI 'bulb' lights :shocked:
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(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z92/p3eps/IMAG0087.jpg)
Here's the ones off the R I test drove the other day.
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They do look fantastic, so the difference between the optional GTI ones and the Golf R ones is not just the tint, but also the connectors are different?
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They do look fantastic, so the difference between the optional GTI ones and the Golf R ones is not just the tint, but also the connectors are different?
I would expect as they are a factory option that the rear light wiring harness is the same as the R's if the LED rears are added.
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Strange,
The led lights posted page 14 are from "Eagle Eyes" wich is a tawainese automotive constructor/dealer
We can see it from the inside picture
Now, they look exactly the same than the "dectane" ones
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5069/4274180550cd7206fedco.jpg)
http://www.dectane.de/product_info [...] black.html
So I am not too sure if "Dectane" uses actualy "Eagle Eyes" products and commercialise these under its own name
To be followed...
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If we could get a group buy going for say £450 all in icl adaptors for R spec ones, I'd be in.
Dave
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^^^ That's easily achievable, as soon as mine arrive I will be able to confirm what mine cost me and what I could help other people get them for :smiley:
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If we could get a group buy going for say £450 all in icl adaptors for R spec ones, I'd be in.
Dave
Me too!
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Strange,
The led lights posted page 14 are from "Eagle Eyes" wich is a tawainese automotive constructor/dealer
We can see it from the inside picture
Now, they look exactly the same than the "dectane" ones
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5069/4274180550cd7206fedco.jpg)
http://www.dectane.de/product_info [...] black.html
So I am not too sure if "Dectane" uses actualy "Eagle Eyes" products and commercialise these under its own name
To be followed...
Those dont't look anything like the originals 3 posts above.
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Thats because they arn't they are the aftermarket ones.
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Here's a photo of my rear lights..
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3951/img8351n.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/img8351n.jpg/)
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A good comparision of the oem to the R LEDs
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/AudioNetPhoto/MK6%20Golf/1.jpg)
Here is a google english translation of how he did it.
LED Normal (light)
1x 5K0 945 093 R (LED Links Inside)
1x 5K0 945 094 R (right LED interior)
1x 5K0 945 095 K (LED External Links)
1x 5K0 945 096 K (right LED exterior)
Golf LED R / R-Line (dark)
1x 5K0 945 093 P (LEDs Links Inside)
1x 5K0 945 094 P (LEDs right inside
1x 5K0 945 095 L Links (External)
1x 5K0 945 096 L (LW)
The regular list price is 579 euros for all 4 lights but the price is the same whether LED "normal" or LED Golf R / R-Line
You can, however, even with the lights FrankDux here in the forum to order at a preferential price of 400 EUR + postage. You then get a proper invoice from the dealership and have full warranty.
How to install the new LED taillights and anschliesen to your needs 4 adapter for each light one. These adapters are available at the time but not yet ready to buy, either in Kufatec still at VW.
So let us build it yourself because you can buy almost all the parts needed for each VW dealer.
The adapter requires the following items:
4 x 7N0 972 703 Male LED Lighting
4 x 191 972 713 Flachsteckergehäuse (jacks for org. Wiring harness)
6 x 000979150 EA Individual Lines
Price: about EUR 40
12 Crimp of Herth + Buss Artk. Number: 50251858
Price: about EUR 6
The Crimp unfortunately does not get you at VW but at every BOSCH service. These are usually sold in 50 bags, but when you get this service BOSCH also einzelnd for 50 cents apiece.
(http://www.jupzup.de/web/LED/1a.jpg)
Step1 fixture:
Players will now have the 6 single wires (000979150 EA) are available to you. This cuts your just in the middle of each half or by cable. Now you have before you are 12 cables, each with a flat connector on one side and on the other side without the connector.
These 12 cuts your cable now even to about 12 cm so that the adapter may not be so long.
fixture Step2:
Now the 12 cable with the flat plugs into the LED connector 7N0 972 703) (inserted. The plugs must be properly seated then you can snap them correctly.
(http://www.jupzup.de/web/LED/1b.jpg)
fixture Step3:
Now we need the 12 Crimp which we attach neatly to the other end of the cable with a crimping tool. Here, attention should be paid to the LED connector with the red locking faces up and that all are roughly aligned Crimp the wires are not the same after twisting are too.
fixture Step4:
Ok now we have 4 LED connector with cable and a flat connector. The flat pins are now being put into the Flachsteckergehäuse (191 972 713).
This includes your orientation you at the picture of the finished adapter. The pins are assigned 1:1. Best to always makes sure that the LED connector with the red lock to show up and the Flachsteckergehäuse with the side chamber where the numbers (are visible 1 2 3) to also show up.
WARNING: Watch out when you can snap the flat plug the well documented 1:1 if you have missed you it is quite difficult without the plug again rauszubekommen release tool.
Finish: Now you have 4 adapters before you lie about the ausssehen then this:
(http://www.jupzup.de/web/LED/1c.jpg)
order or installation of the lamps:
The interior lights can be removed only by means of screws 2 each 8ER nuts do the two plastic tabs on the tailgate and release the nuts. Then you can easily and install the lights out again.
The exterior lighting will be held only with a large white plastic thumb wheel with integrated spring. To get at this you must pull out the Kofferauminnenverkleidung a little. The thumbscrew is then simply rotated out and you can herrausnehmen the lamp.
In the log, this process is also more accurately described again.
code:
If you have now installed the lights and switches on the ignition you will immediately greeted with 5 errors in the MFA:
Left rear brake light
Right rear brake light
Parking light, rear left
Parking light, rear right
Fog light
Despite these errors, the lights work but that is 100% You can also go so already. To get rid of the error an encoding must be made. You can do this yourself if you have a Diagsnosegerät VCDS or let someone do it from the VCDS has, or can you also to your:) go and let him do the coding.
When coding, only the last byte is 18 in the Bordnetzsteuergrät (BCM). To this end, the bit 2 is set to 1 or enabled.
Byte 18 factory setting = 00 HEX
Byte 18 = 00000000 binary factory setting
18 LED byte encoding HEX = 04
Byte 18 LED binary encoding = 00000100
Amazingly, you can then no error after more available bytes are put 18 back to factory settings and still no error messages come any more.
Conclusion:
The new LED tail lamps especially in the R style so the darkened give the Golf GTI, very sporty look, I think. In direct comparison, the R LED lights are also a bit darker than the standard cherry-red GTI halogen lamps which indeed have been blacked out.
Here's a nice quote from Vmax.de:
Every darkened rear light is composed of two light corners of eleven diodes, each of which delimit a marked LED center outwards. This characteristic light signature of the strongest golf of all time with his total of 48 LEDs, even in darkness shall be identified clearly.
The LED tail lights are more than a clear signal for a
casual golf: They are virtually maintenance free and persuade to 0.2 seconds with a better response than conventional incandescent bulbs. This difference can save lives: At a speed of 100 km / h, equivalent to at least 5.6 meters.
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Great info, I had figured out the connectors from ETKA and ordered these on Friday but the coding was the bit I was missing :smiley:
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Snoopy, you should contact a moderator and get that put in a sticky, but with the UK RHD Golf R part numbers :afro:
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This would look good on the red as it makes the white piece smaller. will have to consider this mod.
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Snoopy, you should contact a moderator and get that put in a sticky, but with the UK RHD Golf R part numbers :afro:
Agreed.
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:laugh:Those LEDS are awesome. Worth the money.
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With the R LED's being darker, is it the light itself thats darker or the plastic housing ? I wouldnt want it to be darker than say the spoiler break light.
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On the Kufetc site they have a programme module, which I think makes no error code apper on the MFD?
We should get a group buy going.
Dave
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On the Kufetc site they have a programme module, which I think makes no error code apper on the MFD?
We should get a group buy going.
Dave
We definately should, Id be in. I like the sounds of that 400 euro + vat deal posted a previous post. Then the group buy discount on top would be very appealing.
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Here's a photo of my rear lights..
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3951/img8351n.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/img8351n.jpg/)
.........Fantastic.Much better than the standard kit.
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On the Kufetc site they have a programme module, which I think makes no error code apper on the MFD?
We should get a group buy going.
Dave
The coding is very simple based on snoppy's post so as long as someone is near you with the VCDS cable then you can save the money you would spend on the Kufatec module.
We definately should, Id be in. I like the sounds of that 400 euro + vat deal posted a previous post. Then the group buy discount on top would be very appealing.
The £400+VAT was UK dealer list price which is easily beaten :wink:
My adapter parts are due in on Wednesday and the taillights early next week.
I will also have a repeatable / mini group buy price in the next couple of days and will be able to assemble the connectors as well if people are interested.
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Here's a photo of my rear lights..
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3951/img8351n.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/img8351n.jpg/)
Are these retro fit R lights or optional (lighter tint) GTI lights?
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have had a email back from volkswagen uk stating that the uk golf gti will NOT be getting LED rear lights
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Here's a photo of my rear lights..
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3951/img8351n.jpg) (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/img8351n.jpg/)
Are these retro fit R lights or optional (lighter tint) GTI lights?
It came standard with the car.. I'm not sure if they are lighter than the R lights as I have nothing to compare it to (No Golf R available here yet)
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have had a email back from volkswagen uk stating that the uk golf gti will NOT be getting LED rear lights
Thank god!!!!
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It came standard with the car.. I'm not sure if they are lighter than the R lights as I have nothing to compare it to (No Golf R available here yet)
Looks good though, not too dark on a black car. Any darker and the lights might get lost.
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They are the GTI ones, and the R ones are darker.
I agree in some ways that it makes the R unique, but think you may well sell them on an aniversary GTi model.
Dave
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They are the GTI ones, and the R ones are darker.
I agree in some ways that it makes the R unique, but think you may well sell them on an aniversary GTi model.
Dave
Probably - but an aniversary model won't be due until 2011... so at least they'll be unique (apart from retrofits) on the R for a year and a bit.
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I think the GTI ones are fine.
So when we buying ?
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I prefer the R ones myself.
This is the module that re-codes the system from Kufatec http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html)
I'd be keen to see someone in the UK do the full swap over with no problems, before I'm in. Sorry
Dave
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I prefer the R ones myself.
This is the module that re-codes the system from Kufatec http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html)
I'd be keen to see someone in the UK do the full swap over with no problems, before I'm in. Sorry
Dave
I'm not fussed to be honest, you got a pic of the R ones side by side with the GTI ones ?
I might invest in VCDS rather than that module.
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I prefer the R ones myself.
This is the module that re-codes the system from Kufatec http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html)
I'd be keen to see someone in the UK do the full swap over with no problems, before I'm in. Sorry
Dave
From the product description it sounds like you plug it into the OBD port and the car's coding is updated? You would then assume the module would be unplugged? If that's true surely the module could then be sold onto the next person doing the same mod.
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I prefer the R ones myself.
This is the module that re-codes the system from Kufatec http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html)
I'd be keen to see someone in the UK do the full swap over with no problems, before I'm in. Sorry
Dave
From the product description it sounds like you plug it into the OBD port and the car's coding is updated? You would then assume the module would be unplugged? If that's true surely the module could then be sold onto the next person doing the same mod.
That sounds like a plan!
Dave
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Go for it Dave, let us know how you get on :grin:
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I'd be keen to see someone in the UK do the full swap over with no problems, before I'm in. Sorry
Dave
:rolleyes: :wink: Dave
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Volkswagen Model Year Information MY09 (http://www.my-gti.com/1842/volkswagen-model-year-information-my09)
Golf 2009 model year changes
Golf Symbol change on interior monitoring button for anti-theft alarm
Golf Glove compartment handle changes from chrome to trim colour
Golf Electric sunroof button changed
Golf Mirror heater dial position changed from 12 o'clock to two o'clock
Golf RCD 210 with 4 speakers replaced RCD 300 with 4 speakers
Golf Hill-hold function standard on 6 speed and 7 speed DSG
Golf Symbol change on headlight switch
No idea how this affects the GTI but thought I'd post this anyway...
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MY09 are cars built in 2008. My GTI was built September last year and is model MY10. :huh:
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MY09 are cars built in 2008. My GTI was built September last year and is model MY10. :huh:
I didn't even look at the post that closely since it was done today, but that seems to be the case... :embarassed:
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Volkswagen Model Year Information MY09 (http://www.my-gti.com/1842/volkswagen-model-year-information-my09)
MY09 are the updates that would have been announced in April-May 2008 and happened to cars built around July-ish.
It will be MY11 changes that we'll be looking out for soon.
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I prefer the R ones myself.
This is the module that re-codes the system from Kufatec http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html (http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_info.php/info/p1603_Diagnostic-Interface-LED-rear-lights-VW-Golf-6-VI.html)
I'd be keen to see someone in the UK do the full swap over with no problems, before I'm in. Sorry
Dave
The R LED's are now on backorder with VW's supplier, latest update is these are due from them around mid Feb, as soon as they are available I will be installing a set and coding via VCDS (not the Kufatec adapter).
I have also got a price via a trade account for group buy (min 3 sets) and it would work out around £375 delivered including the adapters :smiley:
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Well they had better call it the mk7 or there will be hell to pay
I heard they were going to call it the 5.75, in April they're changing the dust caps and it will then be called the 5.80.
:evil:
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The R LED's are now on backorder with VW's supplier, latest update is these are due from them around mid Feb, as soon as they are available I will be installing a set and coding via VCDS (not the Kufatec adapter).
I have also got a price via a trade account for group buy (min 3 sets) and it would work out around £375 delivered including the adapters :smiley:
That doesn't sound too shabby, count me in (subject to the wife finding out about it first).
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The R LED's are now on backorder with VW's supplier, latest update is these are due from them around mid Feb, as soon as they are available I will be installing a set and coding via VCDS (not the Kufatec adapter).
I have also got a price via a trade account for group buy (min 3 sets) and it would work out around £375 delivered including the adapters :smiley:
That doesn't sound too shabby, count me in (subject to the wife finding out about it first).
+1
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It came standard with the car.. I'm not sure if they are lighter than the R lights as I have nothing to compare it to (No Golf R available here yet)
Looks good though, not too dark on a black car. Any darker and the lights might get lost.
agree with you there.. I was mildly surprised when I saw the car in the showroom for the first time as I was not expecting the LED lights to be fitted. I liked the Mk6 GTI but thought it was let down by the touareg rear lights. The LEDs just make the Mk6 look so much better.
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+1
(so long as the GF doesnt find out :rolleyes:)
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Tentaively count me in, I just wanna see the end result on someone from the UK's car first.
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As per Kev,
I'd be in as long as it was all done and proven it would work on UK spec cars.
Dave
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When coding, only the last byte is 18 in the Bordnetzsteuergrät (BCM). To this end, the bit 2 is set to 1 or enabled.
Byte 18 factory setting = 00 HEX
Byte 18 = 00000000 binary factory setting
18 LED byte encoding HEX = 04
Byte 18 LED binary encoding = 00000100
Thanks for the code, Snoopy. I have no idea what it means, but hopefully my dealer will know what to do. They are quoting me €600 just for the 4 rear untis, so I think I'll try my luck on ebay.de where there are now quite a few sets up for sale. Dealer said he wasn't sure if he'd be able to do the programming, but I am a man of faith :smiley:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/12/!BkWCMOgBGk~$(KGrHqUOKjcEs6mnmri9BL(KOEoVNw~~_12.JPG)
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Are there RHD/LHD issues in doing this conversion? Where are the fog light and reverse light on the LEDs? Is it the same set up on both LHD and RHD or are they swapped like on the MK5?
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Are there RHD/LHD issues in doing this conversion? Where are the fog light and reverse light on the LEDs? Is it the same set up on both LHD and RHD or are they swapped like on the MK5?
Not if you use RHD Golf R lamps:
Left Outer 5K0 945 095L
Left Inner 5K0 945 093P
Right Outer 5K0 945 096L
Right Inner 5K0 945 094P
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As per the picture of the R LED's on page 15 of this thread, they do look good lit up, wondering if anyone has a pic of these in daylight ? I just hope they will look ok on a GTI.
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I think this thread could do with a refresh/tidied up and a new one created with the exact info and pics spread about this thread.
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If only you was a mod Kev ;) :D :D
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If only you was a mod Kev ;) :D :D
Would have this place running like a dream.
:laugh:
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(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/Drillforlife/Drill_sergeant_screams.jpg)
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Was coming home last night up an unlit part of the motorway.
From a distance I thought there was an R in front of me with the LED lights.
As I got closer I could see the VW badge but couldn't work out what it was then seen it from the side it was a new Polo.
I don't think they were LED but looked all right.
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The new Polo is basically a MK6 Golf that has been in the washing machine too long and shrunk. Looks wise anyway.
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(http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/Drillforlife/Drill_sergeant_screams.jpg)
:laugh:
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With Sgt Major Kevs permission, I've found some info on coding for the LED lamps. It's from a German website so I'm not sure all this information is 100% correct.
As far as I can tell, 2009 model year cars need to be re-coded differently otherwise low voltage may affect the front sidelight output. There also seems to be an effect on the tailgate lamps, which go out when the tailgate is opened (?)
Can someone tell me if the tailgate lamps go out when you open it on UK cars?
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With Sgt Major Kevs permission, I've found some info on coding for the LED lamps. It's from a German website so I'm not sure all this information is 100% correct.
See my post on page 16 of this thread :wink:
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Was coming home last night up an unlit part of the motorway.
From a distance I thought there was an R in front of me with the LED lights.
As I got closer I could see the VW badge but couldn't work out what it was then seen it from the side it was a new Polo.
I don't think they were LED but looked all right.
I said similar earlier in this thread. I was right behind a new polo in traffic for a while so got a good look at them. No there not LEDs.
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With Sgt Major Kevs permission, I've found some info on coding for the LED lamps. It's from a German website so I'm not sure all this information is 100% correct.
See my post on page 16 of this thread :wink:
Yes, but I think I've read on motor-talk.de that some (2009?) cars should be re-coded HEX = 05, binary 00000101, not 04, 00000100.
http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/led-rueckleuchten-fuer-golf-vi-t2374173.html?page=177 (http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/led-rueckleuchten-fuer-golf-vi-t2374173.html?page=177)
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Yes, but I think I've read on motor-talk.de that some (2009?) cars should be re-coded HEX = 05, binary 00000101, not 04, 00000100.
Jeez, this is getting seriously complicated! If I start saying stuff like this to the technicians at my dealers, they're going to tell me to tell me to f*** off (only in French, of course) :smiley:
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This was posted on another forum.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i284/rubbertoe7/DSC_0398.jpg)
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I was just looking at that a minute ago over there!
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What forum guys?
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Yeah what forum, I did't know there was one?
Dave
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Yeah what forum, I did't know there was one?
Dave
This forum (has a very lively mk6 section too!!! [that was irony btw]):
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,11798.0.html
Can't believe any of you lot who used to have mk5s have never heard of it? :undecided:
I'm on there with a different user name, although I don't post up much not having a mk5 anymore.
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Oh i'm registered on there but rarely visit, not as good as here and I think that mk6 looks bloody horrible.
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Oh i'm registered on there but rarely visit, not as good as here and I think that mk6 looks bloody horrible.
It's the black bonnett that makes it a bit :sick: for me.
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Any update on your LED lights yet STEVEP :smiley:
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Outer lights and parts for the adapters arrived last week, the adapters have been made up and are ready today.
The inners where due on the 17th but still hadn't arrived today so fingers cross they will be here tomorrow and installed over the weekend :smiley:
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Dont forget pics! :smiley:
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You can be sure of pics and a little video :wink:
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cant wait, nice one steve.
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You can be sure of pics and a little video :wink:
I am hoping to fit mine this weekend. I am pretty confident about the physical install, but reprogramming the OBC to avoid the error messages is another matter... Maybe we could pool our experiences and make a definitive sticky?
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Great news, looking forward to the update.
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I am now have three led lights :laugh: :laugh:
Final one due on tomorrow morning delivery to the VW dealers :smiley:
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Can someone with the LED rear lights do a favour of maybe taking a couple of photos in the daytime and nighttime,
I was wondering as the indicators, foglight, and reversing light are much smaller than the bulb light version. How easy can for example the indicator lights be seen when the brake lights are on. In daylight and in the dark. :undecided:
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Snoopy, where did you get this info from that you posted on page 16? Was it translated from German by Google Translator, or something, because I don't really understand some bits of it, specifically the words in bold type. I went to talk to the electrician at my dealer this afternoon and he said that if I can provide the correct code, they should be able to do the reprogramming in a few minutes with their VAGCom station.
code:
If you have now installed the lights and switches on the ignition you will immediately greeted with 5 errors in the MFA Left rear brake light
Right rear brake light
Parking light, rear left
Parking light, rear right
Fog light
Despite these errors, the lights work but that is 100% You can also go so already. To get rid of the error an encoding must be made. You can do this yourself if you have a Diagsnosegerät VCDS or let someone do it from the VCDS has, or can you also to your:) go and let him do the coding.
When coding, only the last byte is 18 in the Bordnetzsteuergrät (BCM). To this end, the bit 2 is set to 1 or enabled.
Byte 18 factory setting = 00 HEX
Byte 18 = 00000000 binary factory setting
18 LED byte encoding HEX = 04
Byte 18 LED binary encoding = 00000100
Amazingly, you can then no error after more available bytes are put 18 back to factory settings and still no error messages come any more.
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Snoopy, where did you get this info from that you posted on page 16? Was it translated from German by Google Translator, or something, because I don't really understand some bits of it, specifically the words in bold type. I went to talk to the electrician at my dealer this afternoon and he said that if I can provide the correct code, they should be able to do the reprogramming in a few minutes with their VAGCom station.
code:
If you have now installed the lights and switches on the ignition you will immediately greeted with 5 errors in the MFA Left rear brake light
Right rear brake light
Parking light, rear left
Parking light, rear right
Fog light
Despite these errors, the lights work but that is 100% You can also go so already. To get rid of the error an encoding must be made. You can do this yourself if you have a Diagsnosegerät VCDS or let someone do it from the VCDS has, or can you also to your:) go and let him do the coding.
When coding, only the last byte is 18 in the Bordnetzsteuergrät (BCM). To this end, the bit 2 is set to 1 or enabled.
Byte 18 factory setting = 00 HEX
Byte 18 = 00000000 binary factory setting
18 LED byte encoding HEX = 04
Byte 18 LED binary encoding = 00000100
Amazingly, you can then no error after more available bytes are put 18 back to factory settings and still no error messages come any more.
Correct, installed en coded the LED's 3 weeks ago by mine GTi, works perfect
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Snoopy, where did you get this info from that you posted on page 16? Was it translated from German by Google Translator, or something.
Here is a google english translation of how he did it.
Yes.
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Correct, installed en coded the LED's 3 weeks ago by mine GTi, works perfect
What did you do exactly? Did your dealer do everything for you? Did you show them the above info, or did they know how to do it? Any help would be appreciated, as my dealer can be a bit clueless at times.
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FroGTI,
If you can read German. :smiley:
LED "Normal" (hell)
1x 5K0 945 093 R (LED Links Innen)
1x 5K0 945 094 R (LED Rechts Innen)
1x 5K0 945 095 K (LED Links Aussen)
1x 5K0 945 096 K (LED Rechts Aussen)
LED Golf R/R-Line (dunkel)
1x 5K0 945 093 P (LED Links Innen)
1x 5K0 945 094 P (LED Rechts Innen
1x 5K0 945 095 L (Links Außen)
1x 5K0 945 096 L (Rechts Außen)
Der normale Listenpreis beträgt 579 EUR für alle 4 Leuchten wobei der Preis gleich ist ob LED "normal" oder LED Golf R/R-Line
So um die neuen LED Rücklichter einbauen bzw. anschliesen zu können benötigt Ihr 4 Adapter für jede Leuchte einen. Diese Adapter gibt es zur Zeit aber noch nicht fertig zu kaufen, weder bei Kufatec noch bei VW.
Also bauen wir uns diese selber da es fast alle benötigten Teile bei jedem VW Händler zu kaufen gibt.
Für die Adapter werden folgende Teile benötigt:
4 x 7N0 972 703 Stecker LED Leuchten
4 x 191 972 713 Flachsteckergehäuse ( Buchsen für org. Kabelbaum )
6 x 000979150 EA Einzelleitungen
Preis: ca. 40 EUR
12 Crimpstecker von Herth+Buss Artk. Nummer: 50251858
Preis: ca. 6 EUR
Die Crimpstecker bekommt Ihr leider nicht bei VW aber bei jedem BOSCH Dienst. Diese werden normalerweise im 50ér Beutel verkauft aber beim BOSCH Dienst bekommt Ihr diese auch einzelnd für 50 Cent pro Stück.
Adapterbau Step1:
Ihr habt nun die 6 Einzelleitungen ( 000979150 EA ) vor Euch liegen. Diese schneidet Ihr einfach in der Mitte durch bzw. halbiert jedes Kabel. Jetzt habt Ihr 12 Kabel vor Euch liegen mit jeweils auf einer Seite einem Flachstecker und auf der anderen Seite ohne Stecker.
Diese 12 Kabel kürzt Ihr nun noch auf etwa 12 cm damit die Adapter nicht so lang werden.
Adapterbau Step2:
Nun werden die 12 Kabel mit den Flachsteckern in die LED Stecker ( 7N0 972 703 ) eingesteckt. Die Stecker müßen richtig einklicken dann sitzen diese richtig.
Adapterbau Step3:
Jetzt benötigen wir die 12 Crimpstecker welche wir an das andere Ende der Kabel mit einer Crimpzange ordentlich befestigen. Hierbei sollte darauf geachtet werden das der LED Stecker mit der roten Verriegelung nach oben zeigt und das alle Crimpstecker in etwa gleich ausgerichtet sind das die Kabel nachher nicht zu sehr verdreht sind.
Adapterbau Step4:
Ok jetzt haben wir 4 LED Stecker mit Kabel und einem Flachstecker. Die Flachstecker werden nun in die Flachsteckergehäuse ( 191 972 713 ) gesteckt.
Hierzu orientiert Ihr Euch an dem Bild der fertigen Adapter. Die Pins sind 1:1 belegt. Am besten ist Ihr achtet immer darauf das die LED Stecker mit der roten Verriegelung nach oben zeigen und die Flachsteckergehäuse mit der Seite wo die Kammer Nummern ( 1 2 3 ) zu erkennen sind ebenfalls nach oben zeigen.
ACHTUNG: Passt auf beim einklicken der Flachstecker das Ihr auch 1:1 belegt wenn Ihr Euch vertan habt ist es recht schwierig die Stecker wieder rauszubekommen ohne Entriegelungswerkzeug.
Fertig: Nun habt Ihr 4 Adapter vor Euch liegen die in etwa dann so ausssehen:
Um bzw. Einbau der Leuchten:
Die inneren Leuchten werden nur mittels je 2 8ér Muttern verschraubt hierzu die beiden Plastikklappen an der Heckklappe entfernen und die Muttern lösen. Dann könnt Ihr die Leuchten problemlos aus und wieder einbauen.
Die Äußeren Leuchten werden nur mit einer großen weißen Plastik Rändelschraube mit integrierter Feder gehalten. Um an diese heranzukommen müsst Ihr die Kofferauminnenverkleidung ein wenige rausziehen. Die Rändelschraube wird dann einfach raus gedreht und Ihr könnt die Leuchte herrausnehmen.
Im Bordbuch ist dieser Vorgang aber auch nochmal genauer Beschrieben.
Codierung:
Wenn Ihr nun die Leuchten eingebaut habt und die Zündung einschaltet werdet Ihr sofort mit 5 Fehlermeldungen in der MFA begrüßt:
Bremslicht hinten links
Bremslicht hinten rechts
Standlicht hinten links
Standlicht hinten rechts
Nebelleuchte
Trotz dieser Fehlermeldungen funktionieren die Leuchten aber zu 100 % d.h. Ihr könnt so auch schon fahren. Um die Fehlermeldungen wegzubekommen muss eine Codierung vorgenommen werden. Diese könnt Ihr selber machen wenn Ihr über ein Diagsnosegerät VCDS verfügt oder lasst es von jemanden machen der VCDS hat bzw. könnt Ihr auch zu Eurem fahren und ihm die Codierung machen lassen.
Bei der Codierung wird nur das Byte 18 im Bordnetzsteuergrät ( BCM ) geändert. Hierzu wird das Bit 2 auf 1 gesetzt bzw. aktiviert.
Byte 18 Werkseinstellung HEX = 00
Byte 18 Werkseinstellung binär = 00000000
Byte 18 LED Codierung HEX = 04
Byte 18 LED Codierung binär = 00000100
Erstaunlicherweise könnt Ihr nachdem dann keine Fehlermeldungen mehr vorhanden sind das Byte 18 wieder auf Werkseinstellung stellen und trotzdem kommen keine Fehlermeldungen mehr.
Fazit:
Die neuen LED Rückleuchten besonders die im R Style also die abgedunkelten verleihen dem Golf GTI einen sehr sportlichen Look wie ich finde. Im direkten Vergleich sind die R LED Leuchten auch noch einen Tick dunkler als die Serien kirschroten GTI Halogen Leuchten welche ja auch schon abgedunkelt sind.
Hier noch ein nettes Zitat aus Vmax.de:
Zitat
Jede abgedunkelte Rückleuchte besteht aus zwei Lichtwinkeln mit elf Dioden, die jeweils einen markanten LED-Mittelpunkt nach außen abgrenzen. Mit dieser charakteristischen Leuchtensignatur ist der stärkste Golf aller Zeiten mit seinen insgesamt 48 LEDs auch bei Dunkelheit eindeutig zu identifizieren.
Die LED-Rückleuchten sind mehr als ein klares Signal für einen
sportlichen Golf: Sie sind fast wartungsfrei und überzeugen mit einem um 0,2 Sekunden besseren Ansprechverhalten als herkömmliche Glühlampen. Diese Differenz kann Leben retten: Bei Tempo 100 km/h entspricht das immerhin 5,6 Metern.
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Great, thanks for that, Snoopy :cool:
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The first part of mine is almost ready
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/f4af58f1.jpg)
Soldering it all together now and heat shrinking ready for tomorrow :smiley:
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The first part of mine is almost ready
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/f4af58f1.jpg)
Soldering it all together now and heat shrinking ready for tomorrow :smiley:
Nice, but take my advice, make them a lot shorter, especially the ones in the trunk, there is not much space and they can rattle.
Good luck, Ron
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^^^ Yep I have already as from when I installed an RVC I remember seeing that for it to work best it would need to be short :smiley:
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The first part of mine is almost ready
Soldering it all together now and heat shrinking ready for tomorrow :smiley:
That is what I call a hardcore GTI lover...kudos my friend.... :cool:
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^^^ Yep I have already as from when I installed an RVC I remember seeing that for it to work best it would need to be short :smiley:
Like the coward I am, I decided to go for the genuine VW adapters. The wire between the clips is about 8cm long. Let us know how you get on with the coding.
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^^^ Yep I have already as from when I installed an RVC I remember seeing that for it to work best it would need to be short :smiley:
Like the coward I am, I decided to go for the genuine VW adapters. The wire between the clips is about 8cm long. Let us know how you get on with the coding.
that might be the cheapest way as the parts to make the adapters come to £45. Do you have the part numbers?
Might are here just finishing two other mods first then will be installing the LED's.
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Part no. is 191 972 713. Got mine from Germany from this guy for £35 + postage: http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a (http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a)
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Part no. is 191 972 713 Got mine from Germany from this guy for £35 + postage: http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a (http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a)
That part number is just for the connector housing for the pick-up of the power from the original lights and are a couple of quid each at the UK dealers.
It's the repair wires to go into the connectors on the LED lights that make the looms expensive :angry:
Anyway been a busy day for my Mk6 today.
Firstly had a new development Intake kit installed at ITG, then fitted the OSIR O-Shift DSG Paddles and then at last my Golf R LED tails.
Everything went 100% to plan and the coding was very very easy.
Here's a quick pic of mine are all in and working :smiley:
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF2133.jpg)
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And the coding was?
Big favour to ask but any chance of a photo of the brake lights on and the indicators on in daylight and the dark. Im wondering as the indicators are now much smaller how visable they are. (Thats one thing i hate about the mk5 golfs rear lights :sad: )
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And the coding was?
Central Electrics, Byte 18, Hex 00100 :smiley:
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And the coding was?
Central Electrics, Byte 18, Hex 00100 :smiley:
Thanks. (we need a big thumbs up smiley) :smiley:
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I will be doing a full guide tomorrow with lots of photo's and screen shots of the coding.
Will also be running a group buy if the mods will approve it??
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I will be doing a full guide tomorrow with lots of photo's and screen shots of the coding.
Will also be running a group buy if the mods will approve it??
Top stuff Steve, really appreciate the time and effort you have put into this, and a thanks in advance for your guide and pics :)
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Theres also a group buy for VAGCOM/VSDS some of you maybe interested in. It seems to incorporate quite a few forums at the moment.
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/151280-genuine-vcds-aka-vag-com-hex-can-usb-inter-forum-group-buy-2010/
and also hidden away in the many sections of this great forum.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=141741.0
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I will be doing a full guide tomorrow with lots of photo's and screen shots of the coding.
Will also be running a group buy if the mods will approve it??
Yes, your input is much anticipated and appreciated. That group buy looks good, though I dont know if I would use it enough to justify buying one. Help on the coding you did would be great, Steve.
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Just like i said Steve, same coding i used 3 weeks agon!
Can you post a picture of the OSIR O-Shift DSG Paddles?
Where did you buy them?
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£202 for VCDS is very very tempting indeed.
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Just incase anyone was wondering, the VCDS cable thats in the group buy (HEX-USB+CAN) is perfect for the mk6 GTI.
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Just incase anyone was wondering, the VCDS cable thats in the group buy (HEX-USB+CAN) is perfect for the mk6 GTI.
Im tempted myself as my mates borrowed my lead and keeps on about buying it off me as he always uses it at his garage, i hate to think what state its in now! So i think it maybe worth me getting the new one and selling the old one to him :evil: Its the trust factor of handing over the money im struggling with.
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Just incase anyone was wondering, the VCDS cable thats in the group buy (HEX-USB+CAN) is perfect for the mk6 GTI.
Im tempted myself as my mates borrowed my lead and keeps on about buying it off me as he always uses it at his garage, i hate to think what state its in now! So i think it maybe worth me getting the new one and selling the old one to him :evil: Its the trust factor of handing over the money im struggling with.
That was my very first thought when I read that thread. I'm pretty sure though we could mention to RossTech that we are part of the group buy but buy it through our own forum ?
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Kev, I edited my original post as i have now found the group buy on this forum too.
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i have now found the group buy on this forum too.
Can you post a link?
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Theres also a group buy for VAGCOM/VSDS some of you maybe interested in. It seems to incorporate quite a few forums at the moment.
http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/151280-genuine-vcds-aka-vag-com-hex-can-usb-inter-forum-group-buy-2010/
and also hidden away in the many sections of this great forum.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=141741.0
He put it here Frogster ^^^^ :)
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He put it here Frogster ^^^^ :)
Cheers, Exonian. I don't have as much spare time as I used to and browsing this forum has become a luxury :embarassed:
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You're welcome. :smiley: We're all here to help :grin:
I know where you're coming from, some weeks I have loads of time and others I just don't get on here at all, and it doesn't take long for the threads to get messy or just disappear off the radar altogether.
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As it was only 7 posts up from the reply and on the same page i thought it best to just edit that original post to keep it all in one place. Sorry if this caused confusion.
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Well it's not quiet the 100% I though when doing to the picture taking today I found once the fog and reverse had been switch on together I got a bulb out warning on the dash, tried the three coding options I have found online but no joy. So back to the drawing board for now :sick:
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We need to find a golf R and plug it into VCDS to find what its set as :sad:
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^^^ Local dealer will be getting a visit in the morning so I can check their rising blue demo :wink:
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The group buy looks tempting but sending the cash to a complete stranger, who reckons he can get over a 100 orders, doesn't fill me with confidence.
That's over £20K being paid in to his account :undecided:
I'm not questioning his honesty but its the kind of thing if it went pear shaped and you told your mates you paid £200 in to a complete strangers bank account.........well you can imagine what they would think of you.
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I know what you meen, at least with paypal you would have a glimmer of hope of maybe getting it back. I keep thinking for £40 quid saving is it worth the risk? Also now you say 20K i keep thinking that distributor is getting a good deal.
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Well it's not quiet the 100% I though when doing to the picture taking today I found once the fog and reverse had been switch on together I got a bulb out warning on the dash, tried the three coding options I have found online but no joy. So back to the drawing board for now :sick:
If its only fog + reverse, I can live with that.
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Well it's not quiet the 100% I though when doing to the picture taking today I found once the fog and reverse had been switch on together I got a bulb out warning on the dash, tried the three coding options I have found online but no joy. So back to the drawing board for now :sick:
If its only fog + reverse, I can live with that.
It looks like I have been supplied Left hand drive inner lights :laugh: :laugh:
Just went and checked and the reverse light is on the wrong side, as per this video I took earlier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7OnHp8o0c0
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'this video is private'.
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Try now :embarassed:
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Nice little video, thanks for your trouble. I must say the indicators look good, though I am surprised they have received type approval, as they seem very small and not very bright/noticeable.
EDIT: Looking at the video a second time, it looks as if the indicators use incandescent bulbs rather than LEDs, as they seem to 'dim' in and out... :sad: Can you confirm?
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The group buy looks tempting but sending the cash to a complete stranger, who reckons he can get over a 100 orders, doesn't fill me with confidence.
That's over £20K being paid in to his account :undecided:
I'm not questioning his honesty but its the kind of thing if it went pear shaped and you told your mates you paid £200 in to a complete strangers bank account.........well you can imagine what they would think of you.
It's been done before by another chap very succesfully :smiley:
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/137003.aspx
I can see what you're saying but if the chap organising it is stupid enough to run off with your money I think there's enough of you to track him down :tongue:
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if the chap organising it is stupid enough to run off with your money I think there's enough of you to track him down :tongue:
Lol, can you imagine that? A posse of GTI drivers roaming the streets :laugh:
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if the chap organising it is stupid enough to run off with your money I think there's enough of you to track him down :tongue:
Lol, can you imagine that? A posse of GTI drivers roaming the streets :laugh:
It does happen
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=144593.0
:evil: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Well it's not quiet the 100% I though when doing to the picture taking today I found once the fog and reverse had been switch on together I got a bulb out warning on the dash, tried the three coding options I have found online but no joy. So back to the drawing board for now :sick:
If its only fog + reverse, I can live with that.
Confirmed a part number cock-up :laugh:
Correct lights will be here tomorrow morning :smiley:
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It's been done before by another chap very succesfully :smiley:
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/137003.aspx
I can see what you're saying but if the chap organising it is stupid enough to run off with your money I think there's enough of you to track him down :tongue:
100 folk going after him though doesn't guarantee your money back as the other thread you posted about proves :(
Even Ross Tech was unsure with the first group buy.......... "Don't take this the wrong way, but we don't know you very well. Right now, all we have on you is a Hotmail address. Thus if you make an offer in public, collect a bunch of money from people, and decided to abscond with it, we (Ross-Tech) would end up looking pretty bad. Now I have no reason to believe you would do this, but I really don't want to take the chance of us or our prospective customers getting taken for that kind of money........"
I'm sure it would fine but its the kind of thing you read about in the papers every day and think to yourself, "how stupid can some folk be, sending money to a complete stranger" :laugh:
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It's been done before by another chap very succesfully :smiley:
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/137003.aspx
I can see what you're saying but if the chap organising it is stupid enough to run off with your money I think there's enough of you to track him down :tongue:
100 folk going after him though doesn't guarantee your money back as the other thread you posted about proves :(
Even Ross Tech was unsure with the first group buy.......... "Don't take this the wrong way, but we don't know you very well. Right now, all we have on you is a Hotmail address. Thus if you make an offer in public, collect a bunch of money from people, and decided to abscond with it, we (Ross-Tech) would end up looking pretty bad. Now I have no reason to believe you would do this, but I really don't want to take the chance of us or our prospective customers getting taken for that kind of money........"
I'm sure it would fine but its the kind of thing you read about in the papers every day and think to yourself, "how stupid can some folk be, sending money to a complete stranger" :laugh:
Agreed, I see no reason why we can't buy direct from RossTech and say we are from such and such a forum and leave our Forum names. ? That way everyone wins.
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It's been done before by another chap very succesfully :smiley:
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/137003.aspx
I can see what you're saying but if the chap organising it is stupid enough to run off with your money I think there's enough of you to track him down :tongue:
100 folk going after him though doesn't guarantee your money back as the other thread you posted about proves :(
Even Ross Tech was unsure with the first group buy.......... "Don't take this the wrong way, but we don't know you very well. Right now, all we have on you is a Hotmail address. Thus if you make an offer in public, collect a bunch of money from people, and decided to abscond with it, we (Ross-Tech) would end up looking pretty bad. Now I have no reason to believe you would do this, but I really don't want to take the chance of us or our prospective customers getting taken for that kind of money........"
I'm sure it would fine but its the kind of thing you read about in the papers every day and think to yourself, "how stupid can some folk be, sending money to a complete stranger" :laugh:
Agreed, I see no reason why we can't buy direct from RossTech and say we are from such and such a forum and leave our Forum names. ? That way everyone wins.
Ross Tech will only be interested if you can muster 50 or more people and will do a one off deal. They won't deal with people individually as it costs them money to ship and most likely you'll get stung for customs
You're better off joining that GB on Briskoda and let someone else have all the hassle of organising and collecting payments :smiley:
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Confirmed a part number cock-up :laugh:
Correct lights will be here tomorrow morning :smiley:
That's good news. So hopefully mine (LHD) should work 100% with the code you provided :smiley:
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Confirmed a part number cock-up :laugh:
Correct lights will be here tomorrow morning :smiley:
That's good news. So hopefully mine (LHD) should work 100% with the code you provided :smiley:
Yep should be a nice easy job :smiley:
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Yep should be a nice easy job :smiley:
Hope so :cool:
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Thank you for taking the time to do the video much apreciated. :smiley:
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Yep should be a nice easy job :smiley:
Hope so :cool:
Well, you were right. I was intending to do a full how-to on installing these lights, but it's so simple I don't think there's much point. I removed all the stock lights and fitted the adapters and LED blocks in under 20 minutes. There are 2 x 3 screws to undo and retighten, plug in the adapters and bingo.
The 'hard' part was taking the car to the dealers to have the OBC reprogrammed to avoid the error messages, but even that was done in under 5 minutes.
Very happy with the result, just a shame they're so expensive. I got mine on eBay from Germany for about £350, incl. shipping, but I'm hoping to offset some of this by selling the 'old' GTI lights.
(http://www.golfgti6.com/leds1.jpg)
(http://www.golfgti6.com/leds2.jpg)
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^^^^ Very Nice :cool:
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^^^^ Very Nice :cool:
Thanks for your help, especially with the coding. It was correct, but they needed 2 guys at the dealers to work out exactly what to do. One of them told me they tried to do the same on an Audi A5, but the code the customer had found on the web was wrong... They used a pretty amazing piece of kit which connected to the car via a Wifi connection. I saw all sorts of weird and wonderful settings on the screen; would have loved to have spent the afternoon tweaking :smiley:
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They look spot on, these LEDs really set the car apart.
Good work :cool:
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Could someone still make a full guide 'its so simple I dont think there is much point' is bordering on arrogance. I personally would like to see a guide if possible so I at least know what I'm getting myself in for and also for quick sanity checks if nothing else.
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Could someone still make a full guide 'its so simple I dont think there is much point' is bordering on arrogance. I personally would like to see a guide if possible so I at least know what I'm getting myself in for and also for quick sanity checks if nothing else.
Don't bother, Kev. You're too much of an idiot to even attempt this mod.
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Could someone still make a full guide 'its so simple I dont think there is much point' is bordering on arrogance. I personally would like to see a guide if possible so I at least know what I'm getting myself in for and also for quick sanity checks if nothing else.
Don't bother, Kev. You're too much of an idiot to even attempt this mod.
:grin: quite good for you, even I'd have been proud of that.
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Hehe, seriously though, if I had done a full how-to, you would have probably accused me of being patronizing. I mean what do you want me to say? You unscrew the old lights (see manual on how to change a bulb), screw the LED ones in and you're there. All you need is a pair of hands and a 9mm spanner. Takes 10 minutes, if that.
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Hehe, seriously though, if I had done a full how-to, you would have probably accused me of being patronizing. I mean what do you want me to say? You unscrew the old lights (see manual on how to change a bulb), screw the LED ones in and you're there. All you need is a pair of hands and a 9mm spanner. Takes 10 minutes, if that.
What about making up the wires and soldering them to the connector blocks etc ?
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What about making up the wires and soldering them to the connector blocks etc ?
Good grief, I didn't bother with all that nonsense :grin: I bought a set of plug & play connectors from eBay in Germany. £35. They work fine.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/07/!BkZ,DH!B2k~$(KGrHqMOKisEsln!HpQDBL(YLOvnmg~~_35.JPG)
Linky: http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a (http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a)
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Did I miss something in the depths of this thread - but wasn't a request flagged to attempt a group purchase of ALL the components necessary to effect this change to LED - or was that just the VAGCOM gizmo?
Ava
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What about making up the wires and soldering them to the connector blocks etc ?
Good grief, I didn't bother with all that nonsense :grin: I bought a set of plug & play connectors from eBay in Germany. £35. They work fine.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/07/!BkZ,DH!B2k~$(KGrHqMOKisEsln!HpQDBL(YLOvnmg~~_35.JPG)
Linky: http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a (http://cgi.ebay.de/Adapter-LED-Heckleuchten-VW-Golf-6-VI-R-GTI_W0QQitemZ160398346282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item25587c882a)
Ahh thats much easier then, I didnt realise you were doing it diff from Steve.
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won't you have to be careful with those ready made adaptors as FroGTI drives on the wrong side of the road :tongue:
As SteveP found out when he was given the wrong tail light - couple of bulbs are in the wrong position so it would stand to reason that the wiring will be different too
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won't you have to be careful with those ready made adaptors as FroGTI drives on the wrong side of the road :tongue:
As SteveP found out when he was given the wrong tail light - couple of bulbs are in the wrong position so it would stand to reason that the wiring will be different too
Good point. See thats why I need a guide :grin:
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won't you have to be careful with those ready made adaptors as FroGTI drives on the wrong side of the road :tongue:
As SteveP found out when he was given the wrong tail light - couple of bulbs are in the wrong position so it would stand to reason that the wiring will be different too
Eh? Why? There's one connector for each of the 4 light clusters. I don't think it matters which lights (fog, reverse...) are inside. All these adapters do is change each of the 4 stock connectors to LED types.
SteveP's problem was that he was supplied with LHD light clusters.
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Someone post a guide :laugh:
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Someone post a guide :laugh:
You big girl's blouse :grin: Just buy some and plug 'em in - THEY WILL WORK!
Incidentally, one big disappointment: the indicators don't use LEDs and therefore 'fade in & out' like the stock lights :angry: I was hoping for Mercedes-style instant on/off LED indicators.
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Someone post a guide :laugh:
Im guessing it would be easier to drive to france than get a proper answer on here these days :grin:
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Someone post a guide :laugh:
You big girl's blouse :grin: Just buy some and plug 'em in - THEY WILL WORK!
Incidentally, one big disappointment: the indicators don't use LEDs and therefore 'fade in & out' like the stock lights :angry: I was hoping for Mercedes-style instant on/off LED indicators.
Why would they do that with the indicators, I just dont understand it. Can the indicator bulbs not be replaced with LED's ?
Also do me a fav Froggy, post up exactly what you bought will you (with part numbers) and I promise I'll be nice to you, nob starting from tw@t now
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^^^ If you order the same as the Frog then you will end up with LHD inner lights (like my dealer ordered for me).
This is exactly what I brought to do everything with VW parts: -
1x 5K0 945 093 Q (Inner Light)
1x 5K0 945 094 Q (Inner Light)
1x 5K0 945 095 L (Outer Light)
1x 5K0 945 096 L (Outer Light)
4 x 7N0 972 703 - LED Connector Housing
4 x 191 972 713 - Standard Taillight Connector Housings
6 x 000 979 150E - Repair Wires for LED Connector
6 x 000 979 129 - Repair Wires for Standard Taillight Connector
If people are seriously interested in a GB then I am happy to organise one and help people with coding etc :smiley:
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^^^ If you order the same as the Frog then you will end up with LHD inner lights (like my dealer ordered for me).
This is exactly what I brought to do everything with VW parts: -
1x 5K0 945 093 Q (Inner Light)
1x 5K0 945 094 Q (Inner Light)
1x 5K0 945 095 L (Outer Light)
1x 5K0 945 096 L (Outer Light)
4 x 7N0 972 703 - LED Connector Housing
4 x 191 972 713 - Standard Taillight Connector Housings
6 x 000 979 150E - Repair Wires for LED Connector
6 x 000 979 129 - Repair Wires for Standard Taillight Connector
If people are seriously interested in a GB then I am happy to organise one and help people with coding etc :smiley:
Thanks for that, whats the final total for all that delivered then ?
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Dealer list price was about £465+VAT :shocked:
I think in the end the total I got it for was £410 inc VAT. The adapter parts on their own are £45.
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Dealer list price was about £465+VAT :shocked:
I think in the end the total I got it for was £410 inc VAT. The adapter parts on their own are £45.
£410 all in is tempting. I'm sure FroGTI paid £350-ish all in though, didnt he ?
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Mr P.
Have you got your fogs/reversing lights sorted now ? and is it much of a job to make the adapters up,
I am down for a set of Leds but can't see getting much of a group discount unless we can get a fair few together :undecided:
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Dealer list price was about £465+VAT :shocked:
I think in the end the total I got it for was £410 inc VAT. The adapter parts on their own are £45.
£410 all in is tempting. I'm sure FroGTI paid £350-ish all in though, didnt he ?
I would expect to be able to get it cheaper than £410 if I can get a few people interested.
Mr P.
Have you got your fogs/reversing lights sorted now ? and is it much of a job to make the adapters up,
I am down for a set of Leds but can't see getting much of a group discount unless we can get a fair few together :undecided:
Yep all 100% working as of tonight, it was an error on the order and I ended up with a set of LHD inner lights, with the correct RHD ones and the coding set to 04 / 00100 it's job done :smiley:
I would be happy to pre-assemble the adapters if that helps or you can get the slightly cheaper ones from ebay.de
I am trying to find a source for the crimp connectors as the repair wires from VW account for 70% of the cost of the adapters.
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Sounds good to me either way Steve,
is there anybody else about who are after some :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Incidentally, one big disappointment: the indicators don't use LEDs and therefore 'fade in & out' like the stock lights :angry: I was hoping for Mercedes-style instant on/off LED indicators.
Maybe and i don't know this, this is a guess and without having a good look at how the cars setup. It may need the indicator bulbs in to flash at the correct speed using an old style flasher relay.
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Incidentally, one big disappointment: the indicators don't use LEDs and therefore 'fade in & out' like the stock lights :angry: I was hoping for Mercedes-style instant on/off LED indicators.
Maybe and i don't know this, this is a guess and without having a good look at how the cars setup. It may need the indicator bulbs in to flash at the correct speed using an old style flasher relay.
i missed that one, so the indicators are not Led's
They have them on passats and golf+'s dont they, but not on a premium Golf R ?????
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^^^ I am going to check the bulb type tomorrow but like snoopy says it's unlikely to work as it needs to see the normal current being drawn from a filament type bulb rather than the much lower power LED's.
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^^^ I am going to check the bulb type tomorrow but like snoopy says it's unlikely to work as it needs to see the normal current being drawn from a filament type bulb rather than the much lower power LED's.
:undecided::angry: i await your feedback :cry:
Thanx Steve
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^^^ I am going to check the bulb type tomorrow but like snoopy says it's unlikely to work as it needs to see the normal current being drawn from a filament type bulb rather than the much lower power LED's.
Look forward to hearing what you find out.
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^^^ I am going to check the bulb type tomorrow but like snoopy says it's unlikely to work as it needs to see the normal current being drawn from a filament type bulb rather than the much lower power LED's.
:undecided::angry: i await your feedback :cry:
Thanx Steve
TBH I think they look OK without the LED indicators.
In case you missed the link earlier in this thread - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7OnHp8o0c0
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^^^ I am going to check the bulb type tomorrow but like snoopy says it's unlikely to work as it needs to see the normal current being drawn from a filament type bulb rather than the much lower power LED's.
:undecided::angry: i await your feedback :cry:
Thanx Steve
TBH I think they look OK without the LED indicators.
In case you missed the link earlier in this thread - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7OnHp8o0c0
they actually do look ok, I think the brightness is concentrated more at the curve of the indicatior then not so bright as the indicator sweeps round towards the back of the car. I understand thats where the bulb is, but it just doesnt look very 'even' to me. Maybe this is the way its meant to be.
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A quick recap on what I bought/did: 4 LHD LED lights @ €365 + 4 ready made cable connectors @ €39, all from eBay Germany (nearly all German sellers speak English). I posted example links above, but otherwise do a search on ebay.de using golf gti led heckleuchten or rückleuchten, don't forget the dieresis (the two dots over the 'u'). All parts are genuine VW.
The physical install is so easy that even Kev could do it; all the lights work instantly. However, you get error messages on the MFD when you start, plus a permanently lit yellow warning light on the dash. If, like me, you can't live with this irritation, you need to alter the coding using VAGCOM, as SteveP has said. My dealer managed to do it, but it took them a while to figure it out, even with the coding I supplied (there are millions of 0s and 1s in there). They didn't charge me, but I gave each of the two technicians €15 by way of a thank-you.
Total cost, therefore: €434 / approx. £380
VWKev, if this is still not information for you, take a look at SteveP's massively detailed write-up here: http://mk6.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=81.0 (http://mk6.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=81.0)
P.S. the guy who sold me the lights in Germany also threw in a rather nice GTI beach towel
(http://www.golfgti6.com/ledsout.jpg)
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Looking good Mr FroG. I think I've seen that the foglight is LED, but is the reverse light too, or is it just an ordinary bulb?
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^^^ Normal bulb's in reverse and fog :smiley:
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^^^ Normal bulb's in reverse and fog :smiley:
When are you gonna take the wraps off your car?
Gizzy
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Now! :grin:
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Now! :grin:
Lol! Nice one looking good mate :wink:
Gizzy
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Question to those who know about these things: do you think the normal indicator bulbs in these new lights can be changed to LEDs w/o having to go through the hassle of reprogramming again?
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It depends how its wired and what type of LEDs you get.
More than likely it will be one of two ways. a) Its wired the old fashioned way through a flasher relay. In which case it will flash the lights much quicker and think theres a bulb out. b)Its wired through the canbus system to each bulb and it will show a bulb out fault.
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It depends how its wired and what type of LEDs you get.
More than likely it will be one of two ways. a) Its wired the old fashioned way through a flasher relay. In which case it will flash the lights much quicker and think theres a bulb out. b)Its wired through the canbus system to each bulb and it will show a bulb out fault.
Yes, it'll give a bulb out warning but I think the system maintains the correct flash rate.
However, I think you can buy LED bulbs now which have a load resistance built in to prevent the warning. Or, how about adding a load resistor to the relevant adapter cables (so you don't have to cut the OEM loom) - I've seen 25 ohm resistors on ebay for this purpose. A quick Google found this:
http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning-Fix/Warning-Light-Fix/LED-BULB-OUT-WARNING-p4481145.html (http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning-Fix/Warning-Light-Fix/LED-BULB-OUT-WARNING-p4481145.html)
I imagine they'll get warm though, so you'd need to make sure other wiring is protected from them as a precaution.
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^^^^ shouldn't get too warm as the indicators are used too much. I had some LED's sidelights on my Mk5 for which I added in line load resistors which got warm but you could still touch them without it being too hot. :smiley:
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I think mr frog has an LED OCD!! :grin:
But seriously, looking really nice there sir!
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Thanks Steve, I guess the indicators aren't lit continuously, so heat won't build up.
^^^ Normal bulb's in reverse and fog :smiley:
On the subject of the fog light, it looks like the LHD one is LED??:
http://www.motor-talk.de/bilder/led-rueckleuchten-fuer-golf-vi-g11988233/sd534264-i203144684.html (http://www.motor-talk.de/bilder/led-rueckleuchten-fuer-golf-vi-g11988233/sd534264-i203144684.html)
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^^^^ Just been and checked the set I have in the garage: -
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF2182.jpg)
But the reverse light is a normal bulb
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF2183.jpg)
Also the main indicator bulb looks like this: -
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/DSCF2177.jpg)
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Are those the LED lights? If so, they would appear to use the same slightly odd indicator bulb as the standard filament lights. I know, I could just go and look at my own car, but I hate pulling that stiff carpet away, always think something's going to break :grin:
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I think mr frog has an LED OCD!! :grin:
:grin: I must admit I do love their 'clean' look :cool:
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Steve, does that mean the UK fog is LED, or one of those weird bulbs?
Also is the weird bulb a W16W for the reverse light and a WY21W for the indicator?
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Are those the LED lights? If so, they would appear to use the same slightly odd indicator bulb as the standard filament lights. I know, I could just go and look at my own car, but I hate pulling that stiff carpet away, always think something's going to break :grin:
Yes these are the LED lights I have taken the photo's of. And I know what you mean about the carpet. Try doing the reverse camera install, that scary for thinking your going to break something :grin: :grin:
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Steve, does that mean the UK fog is LED, or one of those weird bulbs?
Also is the weird bulb a W16W for the reverse light and a WY21W for the indicator?
Yep I beleive the UK one is LED too, I will double check in a bit.
And yes the bulbs are WY21W for the indicator, not sure on the reverse light but will check that on ETKA in a bit too.
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And I know what you mean about the carpet. Try doing the reverse camera install, that scary for thinking your going to break something :grin: :grin:
New to science following the launch of the Mk6 Golf GTI: stiff-carpet phobia :laugh:
Incidentally, I sprayed those weird orange indicator bulbs silver to get rid of the egg-yolk look. Yes, I know, I'm anal...
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Incidentally, I sprayed those weird orange indicator bulbs silver to get rid of the egg-yolk look. Yes, I know, I'm anal...
So you now have silver indicators rather than orange :undecided:
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Incidentally, I sprayed those weird orange indicator bulbs silver to get rid of the egg-yolk look. Yes, I know, I'm anal...
So you now have silver indicators rather than orange :undecided:
I was talking about on the old, stock lights. And they flash orange as per normal, they just look silver when off so you can't see them through the lens. It's an old trick I've been using for years :wink: I might try the same thing with the new LED lights I fitted, but I'd really like to have an LED bulb in there first.
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Incidentally, I sprayed those weird orange indicator bulbs silver to get rid of the egg-yolk look. Yes, I know, I'm anal...
So you now have silver indicators rather than orange :undecided:
I was talking about on the old, stock lights. And they flash orange as per normal, they just look silver when off so you can't see them through the lens. It's an old trick I've been using for years :wink: I might try the same thing with the new LED lights I fitted, but I'd really like to have an LED bulb in there first.
I have ordered some LED bulb's and load resistors to try so will let you know how I get on :smiley:
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I have ordered some LED bulb's and load resistors to try so will let you know how I get on :smiley:
Great, you have actually found some LED versions of VW's weird indicator bulbs? Can you post a link and/or pix? TIA :)
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I have ordered some LED bulb's and load resistors to try so will let you know how I get on :smiley:
Great, you have actually found some LED versions of VW's weird indicator bulbs? Can you post a link and/or pix? TIA :)
Yep the type is 7440 or WY21W for the indicators: -
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/ABD-7440-21W-9-LED-WEDGE-Red-or-Amber.html :smiley:
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Thanks, Steve. Did you get the resistors from the same place?
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Nope already had some load resistors left from a previous project. eBay is awash with the 50w ali covered resistors :smiley:
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The ones you are going to use i hope are reasonable rated as there will be a bit of power needed to be dissapated by the resistors as heat even at the ~50% duty cycle of indicators.
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Nope already had some load resistors left from a previous project. eBay is awash with the 50w ali covered resistors :smiley:
OK, so I have ordered 4 LED indicator bulbs like wot you said (thought I may as well do the fronts at the same time) :smiley:
I looked at eBay for the resistors: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=50w+resistors&_sacat=See-All-Categories (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=50w+resistors&_sacat=See-All-Categories), but there are dozens of them, all with slightly different references. Can you advise, please?
Also, I took a look at the rear LED blocks I just fitted to my car, but couldn't work out how to remove the indicator bulb holder. It doesn't seem to turn or pull out. How did you remove yours to get at the bulb? TIA :embarassed:
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Nope already had some load resistors left from a previous project. eBay is awash with the 50w ali covered resistors :smiley:
OK, so I have ordered 4 LED indicator bulbs like wot you said (thought I may as well do the fronts at the same time) :smiley:
I looked at eBay for the resistors: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=50w+resistors&_sacat=See-All-Categories (http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=50w+resistors&_sacat=See-All-Categories), but there are dozens of them, all with slightly different references. Can you advise, please?
Also, I took a look at the rear LED blocks I just fitted to my car, but couldn't work out how to remove the indicator bulb holder. It doesn't seem to turn or pull out. How did you remove yours to get at the bulb? TIA :embarassed:
It just twisted out on mine :undecided:
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The LED indicator bulbs arrived today and, TBH, they're sh!te :angry: First of all, they only start flashing after about 10 seconds, until then they're just on all the time. This may be because I didn't install any kind of load resistor, though... Perhaps worse, though, is the fact that they're way too dim compared to the standard lights and, IMO, probably illegal. I removed the one I tried immediately and put the stock bulb back.
If anyone has any suggestions and/or remmedies, then I'm all ears.
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^^^ How did you wire in the load resistors ???
I have mine to try at some point this weekend if I get a couple of rear view kits installs finished in time :nerd:
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So, how did you get on, Steve? I didn't put any resistors in when I tried, but the bulbs themselves were so dim, I don't think I'll bother with them.
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Still on the to do list, got tomorrow off so after putting the car on the dyno in the morning will try to get around to trying mine :smiley:
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Hi :)
Thanks to SteveP's DIY instructions, we were able to get the R Lights installed on our Golf6 here in Singapore :)
Click on the thumbnail below for a Video Clip :)
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/QVU2tTzsEP8/default.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVU2tTzsEP8")
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looks lovely :smiley:
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Hi :)
Thanks to SteveP's DIY instructions, we were able to get the R Lights installed on our Golf6 here in Singapore :)
Click on the thumbnail below for a Video Clip :)
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/QVU2tTzsEP8/default.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVU2tTzsEP8")
Well done mate and thanks for the clip. I'm very jealous now - I want some of those on mine.
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Hi :)
Thanks to SteveP's DIY instructions, we were able to get the R Lights installed on our Golf6 here in Singapore :)
Click on the thumbnail below for a Video Clip :)
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/QVU2tTzsEP8/default.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVU2tTzsEP8")
Anyone know what hapened to Steve's DIY? Link seems dead? :undecided: :sad:
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I am in the process of moving to new server, so from tomorrow the Mk6 site will be on it own domain www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum rather than the subdomain of my Mk5 site :smiley:
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I am in the process of moving to new server, so from tomorrow the Mk6 site will be on it own domain www.mk6golfgti.co.uk/forum rather than the subdomain of my Mk5 site :smiley:
Excellent, wondered why it kept going back to the mk5 site last night when I was skiving researching at work.
Hopefully the site will get some more traffic soon, and more group buys....... :smiley: