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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Exonian on 13 June 2025, 15:38
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First press releases from VW
https://www.vwpress.co.uk/releases/5309
From the photos the record car has the same bodykit as the regular Clubsport model but minus the stickers which are yet to be revealed.
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The seats appear to have a different fabric, looks like a mixture of tartan or something like what the CS 40 buckets had.
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Fastest production golf round the ring?
And most expensive no doubt...
I'd said I'd love an ED50 as the last ED they are likely to make but... no. Its going to be something like £47k I'll bet...
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The seats appear to have a different fabric, looks like a mixture of tartan or something like what the CS 40 buckets had.
You missed the red seat belts 😉 👍
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So much potential, so much disappointment.
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The seats appear to have a different fabric, looks like a mixture of tartan or something like what the CS 40 buckets had.
You missed the red seat belts 😉 👍
I can’t believe I missed those on my first look at video.
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Fastest production golf round the ring?
And most expensive no doubt...
I'd said I'd love an ED50 as the last ED they are likely to make but... no. Its going to be something like £47k I'll bet...
@Fredgroves Yes I think you’re right but perhaps if there is an optional performance pack then maybe base price will be a little lower. (Ok I’m probably dreaming).
@Joegti, yes I spotted the seat fabric and it looks like grey tartan pattern on side bolsters with a different pattern on seat backs. No doubt “50” must feature somewhere on the seats.
Certainly got time to save up if not out till next year.
Andy
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So much potential, so much disappointment.
No disappointment at all, as there were no expectations. Typical VW stuff over the last years.
Add some decals, make richer standard equipment, add a couple of horsepower (if any). that's it.
They don't like..okay..they HATE to add something new to the production line :smiley:
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Record lap onboard.
https://youtu.be/ndbcR5nTz8s?si=qkbbR-1tw4Pe9PjJ
And of course, there was no way it was going to complete a full lap without at least one bong! 🤪
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So far, Not impressed - Doesn't look "very special" as an Edition 35 owner, I would expect it to be set out abit - looks like any other white 8.5 GTi to me.
No exclusive wheels or bumpers or even splitters from what I can see.
Every "edition" that has come out has had at least an exclusive set of wheels made by BBS.
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So far, Not impressed - Doesn't look "very special" as an Edition 35 owner, I would expect it to be set out abit - looks like any other white 8.5 GTi to me.
No exclusive wheels or bumpers or even splitters from what I can see.
Every "edition" that has come out has had at least an exclusive set of wheels made by BBS.
BBS declared themselves insolvent last year (not for the first time). The suspension component manufacturer KW automotive acquired all of BBS’s assets so production of BBS branded alloys could well commence again soon, but probably not in time to produce a set of exclusive wheels for the Edition 50 Golf GTI.
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The Belvederes on the CS40 were made by Fuchs not BBS and I’m pretty sure the Scottsdale wheels on the Ed45 weren’t BBS although they were German made.
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Fair - I didn't know that.
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Faster round the Ring than the Golf R.
They saved the best Golf till last by the looks of it..
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Faster round the Ring than the Golf R.
They saved the best Golf till last by the looks of it..
Even if it was using an optional extra handling pack and slick tyres… :whistle:😁
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A very cut down version of the lap record with Benny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1PanfuJ9yc
Benny going over the N24 GTI racing this weekend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko1c806l_hI&t=3s
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Full lap of The Ring in the Edition 50.
https://youtu.be/ndbcR5nTz8s?si=BsWgbvdGzgYS63wO
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Proper update:
https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/golf-gti-edition-50-volkswagen-presents-the-most-powerful-production-gti-19393
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Wow Tornado red is making a comeback!
The seats do look great on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObdmwT1gn20
VW have made much more effort with these changes compared with the Polo GTI 25 years or any other recent anniversary models.
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Tornado red looks great. The seats are also gorgeous. I'm a fan of the seatbelts. It's a special car, it should be a bit fun.
Not so sure on the pedals and the wheel accents. I'll have to see more pics of the wheels to make up my mind.
The spinner caps come as standard which is a nice little touch. Might pick these up for mine, as soon as I can muster up the courage to close my eyes and hit buy.
320hp vs 300hp for the CS. They've eked out a little more from it. It'll be interesting to see if any reviewers think it makes any difference.
The performance pack seems to be quite aggressive, probably completely so they could set the record time on the ring. It comes with semi slick tyres. I wonder if it'll be 'too much' for road use.
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It looks wonderful. Seats are beautiful. Tornado Red is :laugh:
I'm so surprised and glad they did a great job for the anniversary edition!
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Even I would consider opening my wallet for Tornado Red, I could even ignore the slitty lights and potential dubious software. I doubt if my wallet will contain enough though :embarrassed:
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It looks really good :cool: - I even like the red alloys, probably because they’re on a Tornado Red car (red alloys wouldn’t work so well on some other coloured cars). The only thing I don’t like is the red pedal rubbers which IMHO look a cheap and tacky. They could easily be changed to the normal GTI foot pedal covers with black rubbers though.
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Tornado Red with red wheels looks mega. Not so sure about the red wheels on new dark green colour. As for that colour alone, I wish it was brighter. Something like BMW's Isle of Man Green, or RS3 Kyalami green..
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This is how they did the record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptQCZLEPP6c
Love the colour of this one.
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The red wheels (basically just the existing Queenstown wheels with red substituted for the diamond cut) are absolutely awful imo. Straight into the bin they'd go!
Some of the other touches are dreadful too imo, such as the half-assed spoiler sticker and the red pedals. Even the steering wheel looks not to my taste, the nice brushed silver effect replaced by dark grey/black, very "R black edition" style and NOT GTI imo. Anyone notice in the pics that the usual LHD aluminium dead pedal is missing? Oh no! Some idiot decided that the pedals should be painted red, but forgot about the aluminium dead pedal. So they've left it out.
It really feels like they've let some 21 year old intern loose with the VW credit card on Temu.com. Shocking.
On the positive side, I like the seats (albeit the same seats as the standard car with different fabric). And I like that they've brought back tornado red, because I've never liked kings red (old man's burgundy wine does not work on a GTI). And that new green looks interesting.
It also seems likely that the arka exhaust will not be standard, which is a step backwards from the 45. So you're kinda forced to spec the performance pack, which has the bonus of dodging those awful clown-show wheels, but at a significant extra cost.
Overall, yes I'd love one. Of course. But honestly, it's a lazy enough effort and exactly what I expected. I didn't quite expect them to go so far into the Temu shopping trolley though.
A couple of more interesting things I've noticed:
- no GTI door badge. Clearly they decided this was a crap idea
- nowhere in the blurb does it mention "Clubsport". It's just GTI 50.
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I haven't checked all the links above, but there are some decent photos of the interior in this Autocar piece:
"VW has yet to confirm prices nor how many units will be built, but it is understood to be a limited-run model, and prices are expected to start around £45,000. UK order books are due to open towards the end of this year, with first right-hand-drive deliveries in early 2026"
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-321bhp-edition-50-most-powerful-vw-golf-gti-yet? (https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-321bhp-edition-50-most-powerful-vw-golf-gti-yet?)
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Apparently only 1,974 units will be produced globally, according to this video, wonder how accurate that is.
https://youtu.be/sqLV9ImvPng?si=lyx6DDmRYPF2w2Lc
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Apparently only 1,974 units will be produced globally, according to this video, wonder how accurate that is.
https://youtu.be/sqLV9ImvPng?si=lyx6DDmRYPF2w2Lc
That's AI sh!tty video.
Model will not be limited to numbers of units but to some time period.
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The red wheels (basically just the existing Queenstown wheels with red substituted for the diamond cut) are absolutely awful imo. Straight into the bin they'd go!
Some of the other touches are dreadful too imo, such as the half-assed spoiler sticker and the red pedals. Even the steering wheel looks not to my taste, the nice brushed silver effect replaced by dark grey/black, very "R black edition" style and NOT GTI imo. Anyone notice in the pics that the usual LHD aluminium dead pedal is missing? Oh no! Some idiot decided that the pedals should be painted red, but forgot about the aluminium dead pedal. So they've left it out.
It really feels like they've let some 21 year old intern loose with the VW credit card on Temu.com. Shocking.
On the positive side, I like the seats (albeit the same seats as the standard car with different fabric). And I like that they've brought back tornado red, because I've never liked kings red (old man's burgundy wine does not work on a GTI). And that new green looks interesting.
It also seems likely that the arka exhaust will not be standard, which is a step backwards from the 45. So you're kinda forced to spec the performance pack, which has the bonus of dodging those awful clown-show wheels, but at a significant extra cost.
Overall, yes I'd love one. Of course. But honestly, it's a lazy enough effort and exactly what I expected. I didn't quite expect them to go so far into the Temu shopping trolley though.
A couple of more interesting things I've noticed:
- no GTI door badge. Clearly they decided this was a crap idea
- nowhere in the blurb does it mention "Clubsport". It's just GTI 50.
Honestly, I couldn't agree more with you - I dont like most of it and it doesn't at all seem special - Nothing "Anniversary" about it imho
Also did you notice the "50" on the spolier looks like its semi cut off? not sure if that is intentional or its just the pictures but looks to me like they made the sticker to big then thought, oh well.
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Compared to the ED45,VW has made a significant effort. Agree with some of the styling comments, but the car looks great in TR with the warmenau wheels - shame they still have the R symbol!
Does the ED50 grab my attention like the ED40 did - no it doesn’t, but I think it will be a hoot to drive. The additional power and chassis dynamics will translate to real world fun on the road, and surely that’s the main point and probably VWs focus imo.
I think VW has made more effort in this area compared to any other edition model, and definitely more effort than they did with the ED40 as a driving package (engine & chassis).
The ED40 chassis did not get any special upgrades apart from different springs. It had the stupid overboost feature. The exhaust was restricted after the first resonator by 10mm so it didn’t sound as good as the Clubsport S.
Looking forward to seeing the pricing and final specification.
Well done VW!
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I pop back on here now and again to see what’s happening in the world of Golf GTI…
I saw the GTI ED 50 online and thought I’d see what’s what. I actually like it, I agree they’ve made more effort than the 45, and if the focus has been on the driving experience…. Good for them!
I have no idea on what’s standard or optional on the 8.5 now, I understand from posts that the wheels are a painted version of the standard ones? If so, that’s a bit lazy! Wheels are the easiest mod to make a special edition look different, so why not put something similar to ED30 or 35 wheels, they would’ve looked cool. I would also appreciate standard silver wheels, but that’s just me who’s not a fan of diamond cut or (red) variants off.
I don’t care if they’re BBS or not, just slap on a set of forged “BBS style” and call them lightweight for lower rotating mass, that would have been an instant win.
We’ll see what the journalists have to say I suppose. I expect it to be expensive, but then again, what car isn’t nowadays???
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I pop back on here now and again to see what’s happening in the world of Golf GTI…
I saw the GTI ED 50 online and thought I’d see what’s what. I actually like it, I agree they’ve made more effort than the 45, and if the focus has been on the driving experience…. Good for them!
I have no idea on what’s standard or optional on the 8.5 now, I understand from posts that the wheels are a painted version of the standard ones? If so, that’s a bit lazy! Wheels are the easiest mod to make a special edition look different, so why not put something similar to ED30 or 35 wheels, they would’ve looked cool. I would also appreciate standard silver wheels, but that’s just me who’s not a fan of diamond cut or (red) variants off.
I don’t care if they’re BBS or not, just slap on a set of forged “BBS style” and call them lightweight for lower rotating mass, that would have been an instant win.
We’ll see what the journalists have to say I suppose. I expect it to be expensive, but then again, what car isn’t nowadays???
Agreed, I like the green, reminds me of the MK3 Dragon green colour but the wheels look bloody awful onit :sick:
(https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/7Z3g1q/s3/vw-volkswagen-golf-gti-edition-50.jpg)
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Definitely a car would love, actually think it earns its ED50 tag but for me the colours that are true GTI are Red or White and I would want my anniversary in one of them colours, so I would be out on the green and out on them wheels, as think someone said the performance pack (which should be standard!) has black rims.
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The green is nice... but i once had a dark green metallic car and omg what a nightmare. I'm not a clean car fanatic but even i used to cry about how dirty it got.
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Agreed, I like the green, reminds me of the MK3 Dragon green colour but the wheels look bloody awful onit :sick:
I completely agree with you. The dark red on the green, with the lighter red of the GTI stripe really doesn't work for me.
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Most of the pics and vids so far are glossy press shots, this is a slightly better look albeit in German
https://youtu.be/lFw0f7S7bLQ?si=KST-wzA_Cq66BdZC
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Most of the pics and vids so far are glossy press shots, this is a slightly better look albeit in German
https://youtu.be/lFw0f7S7bLQ?si=KST-wzA_Cq66BdZC
The green paint really ‘pops’ in the sunshine - looks fantastic. As @fredgroves has implied, it’ll be a labour of love to look after, but IMHO that’s no different to any other dark coloured car. I’ve had many black and dark grey cars but dark coloured cars aren’t for me these days; too much like hard work and I’m not getting any younger! :grin:
I’m pretty certain the red on the alloys is a red tinted lacquer on the diamond cut faces so they’ll have all the usual disadvantages of diamond cut alloys - e.g. poor durability, susceptibility to white worm etc. They get a big thumbs down from me on a green car, but I think they look OK with Tornado Red.
The seats look great, but those pedal covers with red rubbers :sick:; they’d definitely have to go……
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I think that green will only look good in the sunshine. I don't think any red goes with that green, including the red stripe below the hood. Personal opinion but Tornado Red is way better and I think suits the car much better.
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"Redish" wheels are good only with Tornado Red, and will look absolutely awful with any other colour (green as well).
For the colour alone. put tornado red and this dark green near each other. which one wins? I would peak this bright and sporty tornado red any day of the week.
If you put kings red and this green - okay, green :grin:
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I love the green, would have seriously considered it as an option if it was available on the Clubsport. However I just don't think darker colours show the car very well, all the detail is black and it just gets lost against a dark colour.
Anyone notice that the button surround on the wheel is a much darker colour though... I do like this.
Other than that, I don't feel this car is that special for a 50th anniversary, but anything more special probably wouldn't sell in the numbers they want.
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Absolutely love this variant. Can't wait to see one in the flesh. Think they have done a great job at embodying the last 50 years into a single car.
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Misha had a green one with black warmenau wheels on his YT channel, although mildly better suited to the green than the weird red tinted option, I personally think a bright silver wheel would suit that green best. 👌
https://youtu.be/ptQCZLEPP6c?si=s0VDtwgCXiqqPOo-
Also, is the steering wheel slightly different where it says GTI 50? Or am I imagining that??
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Also, is the steering wheel slightly different where it says GTI 50? Or am I imagining that??
Yeah, definitely slightly different. No red trim and "GTI 50" instead of "GTI". The badge plate looks a little wider to accommodate it.
Personally I prefer the silver/red trim on the standard car.
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Misha had a green one with black warmenau wheels on his YT channel, although mildly better suited to the green than the weird red tinted option, I personally think a bright silver wheel would suit that green best. 👌
https://youtu.be/ptQCZLEPP6c?si=s0VDtwgCXiqqPOo-
Also, is the steering wheel slightly different where it says GTI 50? Or am I imagining that??
That would look very Mini JCW with the green and upgraded silver wheels combo.
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Also, is the steering wheel slightly different where it says GTI 50? Or am I imagining that??
yes, darker. I'd leave the red stitching though. Darker looks cooler. The standard silver one looks cheap after haptic buttons.
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Also, is the steering wheel slightly different where it says GTI 50? Or am I imagining that??
Yeah, definitely slightly different. No red trim and "GTI 50" instead of "GTI". The badge plate looks a little wider to accommodate it.
Personally I prefer the silver/red trim on the standard car.
Yes I thought it was wider too, it surprises me that VW went to the trouble of doing that instead of just using a ‘50’ in the original narrower spoke.
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Also, is the steering wheel slightly different where it says GTI 50? Or am I imagining that??
yes, darker. I'd leave the red stitching though. Darker looks cooler. The standard silver one looks cheap after haptic buttons.
I agree about darker, but I’d take the normal buttons on my 8.5 over the haptics that were on my 8 any day.
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I like to post at least one a year so here’s my thoughts.
As an owner of the CS45, I’m not sure it’s a massive step forward. Disappointing that the Akra isn’t standard with this edition as it was with the 45. Think the car really needs it otherwise why bother imo.
Of course I say this without knowing how the driving will be changed by the upgrades to chassis etc.
I’m kind of in the position now where I wouldn’t consider a GTI without it being a special edition due to the impending death of the ICE.
Will I look at one? Yes. Have I already made dealer contact? Yes. Am I desperate for one as I was with the 45? No.
Looking forward to more details though.
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I like to post at least one a year so here’s my thoughts.
As an owner of the CS45, I’m not sure it’s a massive step forward. Disappointing that the Akra isn’t standard with this edition as it was with the 45. Think the car really needs it otherwise why bother imo.
Of course I say this without knowing how the driving will be changed by the upgrades to chassis etc.
I’m kind of in the position now where I wouldn’t consider a GTI without it being a special edition due to the impending death of the ICE.
Will I look at one? Yes. Have I already made dealer contact? Yes. Am I desperate for one as I was with the 45? No.
Looking forward to more details though.
As I have gotten older and had many different cars, I am with you on this.
I had a MK7 GTD before my MK6 Edition 35 and a MK4 R32 before the GTD.
There is a certain feeling you get have a special car its hard to explain, maybe its the feeling of knowing you have something rarer I don't know but for me, I think I will continue on that route myself.
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Has anyone placed a ‘join the queue’ deposit of £500 with their local dealer?
VW are clearly expecting a high demand or are they trying to gauge interest??
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Has anyone placed a ‘join the queue’ deposit of £500 with their local dealer?
VW are clearly expecting a high demand or are they trying to gauge interest??
I haven't joined the queue, but will certainly be looking to get one having had Ed20, 25, 30, 35 and 40 (missed 45). I think the demand will be greater than the Ed40 which only sold around 570 units by the production date cut-off (of the allocated 1,000 build slots) despite the hype of the CSS. I reckon there'll be quite a few non VW enthusiasts buying this time around which may make getting one a bit harder.
It all depends on whether VW are going to sell as many as they get orders for by a certain date, or whether they are going limit the production slots and once they're gone that's it. I think I'm just going to wait and see and hope I don't miss out!
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Whilst discussing another matter with my local dealer in March this year I did ask about the Ed50 as the sales manager had literally just got back from the big event VW threw for dealers and sales staff in Wolfsburg.
They had been shown the Ed50 at the event but sworn to secrecy as far as spec and looks are concerned. What they were allowed to say was the model would be produced for the whole year of 2026 with no limitations to numbers. We can assume that some cars won’t be delivered until the following year going from that.
Obviously this was a while ago now so they had no idea on pricing or whether it would be exempt from sales promotions etc.
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Seems to have all gone quiet on the E50, anyone any new news?
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Factory and back room staff closedown for the holidays imminent.
Expect a big social media push in the autumn
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Has anyone placed a ‘join the queue’ deposit of £500 with their local dealer?
VW are clearly expecting a high demand or are they trying to gauge interest??
I’ve spoken to my local dealer and they have no knowledge of this ‘join the queue’ deposit. Is it a specific dealer doing this?
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Has anyone placed a ‘join the queue’ deposit of £500 with their local dealer?
VW are clearly expecting a high demand or are they trying to gauge interest??
I’ve spoken to my local dealer and they have no knowledge of this ‘join the queue’ deposit. Is it a specific dealer doing this?
I don't think it's an official thing. My dealer has a 'list' and is taking deposits of £500. I think they expect to be given an allocation which then they'll apply to the list.
Someone mentioned that there won't be a set number though so in which case you might be able to oder online on the configurator as normal
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it's just the hype around it. keep calm.
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Seems to show alcantara steering wheel. Still no red stitching. Odd.
https://youtu.be/DuGdUO38TAY?si=TyhQ8pHN_0qjx8SF
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Seems to show alcantara steering wheel. Still no red stitching. Odd.
https://youtu.be/DuGdUO38TAY?si=TyhQ8pHN_0qjx8SF
omg, this car is SUCH a beauty in Kings Red
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Seems to show alcantara steering wheel. Still no red stitching. Odd.
https://youtu.be/DuGdUO38TAY?si=TyhQ8pHN_0qjx8SF
omg, this car is SUCH a beauty in Kings Red
Yep! It is for sure. Just for info though this is Tornado Red not Kings Red. Defo the colour I’ll be ordering!
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That’s Tornado red. Far nicer than kings red imo.
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-- duplicate--
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Seems to show alcantara steering wheel. Still no red stitching. Odd.
https://youtu.be/DuGdUO38TAY?si=TyhQ8pHN_0qjx8SF
i see red stitching mate, upped the brightness a bit so you can clearly see it - lovely looking car with that red though
(https://i.imgur.com/cj9gbRQ.jpeg)
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That’s great. Definitely an option I’d look at.
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That looks really good, wonder how much it'll retail for though?
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Volkswizard video on youtube suggests with the extras to make it special, about £50k. It's on my list as a possible new car, mainly because of Tornado Red, but I might have to be stingy on the extras.
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Seems to show alcantara steering wheel. Still no red stitching. Odd.
https://youtu.be/DuGdUO38TAY?si=TyhQ8pHN_0qjx8SF
omg, this car is SUCH a beauty in Kings Red
Yep! It is for sure. Just for info though this is Tornado Red not Kings Red. Defo the colour I’ll be ordering!
of course. I was thinking about Tornado Red, but wrote Kings Red (which I hate).
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(https://i.postimg.cc/GmJb5QDs/IMG-3509.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Jump to it! 😁
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(https://i.postimg.cc/GmJb5QDs/IMG-3509.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Jump to it! 😁
Can't see anything on the VW website.
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Google was my friend, judging from the prices in euros, base car with the performance pack and allowing a bit more for Tornado Red (a must in my view), looking around £52k. I suspect deals might be tricky too unless they don't sell.
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Probably appear on drive the deal, my 45 came from them. Let's see as £52K is far too high in my opinion, there's a brand new RS3 on AT for under 57K.
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Nothing on the UK website yet, I think that’s a Germany thing so maybe it’s on vw.de but it won’t be too long before it’s on UK release.
It’s not a limited run model so although initial slots (away from the usual discount sites) probably won’t have massive deals, and may not even be available for PCP deposit contributions as per the Ed40, but unlike its nearly 10 year old forebear this one is going to be marketed and built all year next year so I reckon later in 2026 there could be deals to be had. Once all the YouTubers and influencers have been brought in to play with press cars and the initial fuss has died down midway through next year it’ll be the time for more discerning buyers to start seriously looking.
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Update:
(https://i.postimg.cc/GthYSQq1/IMG-3510.png) (https://postimg.cc/Q9wHFc26)
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€54k is £47k ish, isnt it?
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For reference a Clubsport is €49,820 plus about 900 extra for 19’s and an R is €55,540
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€54k is £47k ish, isnt it?
Google seems to think so.
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Just priced a performance pack with tornado red and it was Euro 59k, so around £52k. I wonder how many will sell if there is no discount?
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For reference a Clubsport is €49,820 plus about 900 extra for 19’s and an R is €55,540
This makes me feel a bit better. Performance Golfs are always more in Germany. Fingers crossed.
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Another bit of pricing context to make me feel better. The CS45 RRP in Germany was €48k which is £42k. However it launched in the UK for just shy of £40k.
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All GTi’s have disappeared from the website, so they must be rebuilding the configurator to add the ED50
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All GTi’s have disappeared from the website, so they must be rebuilding the configurator to add the ED50
Its up on the German website. 5,000 euros more than the clubsport.
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~£70k with all the bells and whistles :shocked:
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~£70k with all the bells and whistles :shocked:
Bloody hell!
And still they will sell some so I guess they make the right decision on the price...
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Carbon Black rs3 are over £69k so there are people buying at that price.
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We’ve no idea yet what the UK price will be. It’s not accurate to simply convert the German price. Let’s see what it comes out as, hopefully soon! My assumption is they’ve taken the other gti’s off the configurator so they can realign all the prices. Let see!
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We’ve no idea yet what the UK price will be. It’s not accurate to simply convert the German price. Let’s see what it comes out as, hopefully soon! My assumption is they’ve taken the other gti’s off the configurator so they can realign all the prices. Let see!
Doesn't need to be accurate to tell me it will be expensive.
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Not as expensive as some of these electric monstrosities! :laugh:
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Not as expensive as some of these electric monstrosities! :laugh:
That should be the advertising strapline!
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Not as expensive as some of these electric monstrosities! :laugh:
That should be the advertising strapline!
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Gti and Clubsport back on website. No gti 50 yet.
My dealer has just said it’s imminent though.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/L6rD98tM/IMG-5353.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpJgQGNk)
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I think I’d rather wade through the configurator in peace than sit through that load of waffle
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I think I’d rather wade through the configurator in peace than sit through that load of waffle
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I can't click any video link on that (all I see is a whatsApp screenshot!), but I'm guessing it's another "Sam A" video yeah?
The guy is a particularly hard watch. :grin:
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Obviously UK based folk will need to pre-order without driving an Edition 50. What's the best Mk8.5 Golf GTi to take for a test drive to get an idea of what the Ed50 will drive like? I still enjoy my 7 year old Mk7.5 GTi PP especially as there's no annoying traffic aids beeping at me all the time. The Ed50 is giving me Corrado Storm type vibes. I owned a green Storm for many years before selling it in 2015. I expect I will order a green Ed50.
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I’ve got the same as you. 7.5PP. fantastic car, had it from new. I’d suspect if you’re wanting to test drive it will be an 8.5 clubsport with DCC. closest power and chassis wise, albeit clearly without the PP differences due on the ED50. Whether you’d see these differences on standard road driving I’m not sure of anyway. I suspect you’ll need to be really pushing on to feel these differences. I had a real hard time on colour, I was on the verge of ordering green, but I think I’m going red. Always wanted a proper red Gti!
Just need the damn order books to open…
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Having recently changed from a 7.5 TCR to a Clubsport, I can say it's a really good move. The 8.5 has an urgency to the drive lacking in the 7.5 and despite reservations, I prefer the interior now. Yes, the safety bongs can be annoying but not anywhere near enough to put me off. The ride is better too. I was thinking about waiting for an Ed50 but had to have this one! From the press releases so far, I would be concerned with the ride quality of the Ed50 as spring rates are up but, I really, really want Tornado Red....
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Yeah, Tornado Red is so iconic and probably the best red colour I've ever seen. Specifically for the GTI.
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whilst I sit (im)patiently waiting for the order books to open... I keep going back and forth on performance pack or not... Whilst on one hand it would be great to have the same chassis spec as that which holds the Nurburgring record, the other part of me wonders about the practicalities of the stiffer springs and semi slick tyres. The roads in Lancashire are absolutely atrocious and it rains a fair bit this way...
Would I be setting myself up for compromises and would I just be better going for non PP to get the slightly softer spring rates and tyres that actually have some wet weather performance? The Akrapovic I won't lose sleep over, not bothered either way on this really. I will spec DCC if I do go non PP and this isn't standard.
What are other buyers doing? thoughts appreciated!
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Given that you don't want most of what sets the Ed50 apart from a regular CS, why get one? I've been thinking about it a fair bit and feel the same way, the main thing for me would be to get the Tornado Red. A bit of an expensive way of doing it!
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It's not that I don't want it... but I've reached a certain age where you consider practicalities more than my younger self would.. I am still very much undecided, but yes, one of the main reasons is I love the tornado red and the last bright red car I had was my Clio R27 nearly 20 years ago!! If there was the PP option but keeping standard road tyres that would sway me much more towards going for it. I've been researching the potenza race tyre and it doesn't look great in wet weather which I'm not surprised at, clue's in the name!
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It wouldn't cost that much to put four new tyres of your choice on and sell the supplied tyres if you so desired.
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With a bit of luck they'll be a sales flop and there'll be a load of cheap basic spec red ones being given away at the end of production :laugh:
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I believe this is what happened with the Golf GTI Edition 40, quite a few basic spec in stock that were discounted.
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With a bit of luck they'll be a sales flop and there'll be a load of cheap basic spec red ones being given away at the end of production :laugh:
And an even nicer white one that’s £500 cheaper with my name on it.
(Disclaimer, I’m weirdly more interested in the upcoming leccy GTI than the Ed50 for some reason)
whilst I sit (im)patiently waiting for the order books to open...
What are other buyers doing? thoughts appreciated!
Whilst sitting (im)patiently crunching apples and refreshing VW UK’s configurator multiple times a day in case something appears on there (full of errors) maybe consider your own usage rather than other people who will quite possibly use the car very differently to you.
Will it be a main car or a garage toy?
What other cars are there in the household?
Do you commute in it and if so what sort of commute?
What type of passengers do you carry and how often?
What’s the likely annual mileage you’ll cover in it?
Will you use it for long holiday road trips?
Will you take it to car shows?
Will you ever use it on track days?
Do you have a ceiling budget?
Literally every purchaser will have a different criteria and buyers of second hand special edition VW’s tend to be particularly anal and weird about specs (despite them paying damn near as much for one that’s a few years old as the original purchaser would have bought it for new with discounts)
It wouldn't cost that much to put four new tyres of your choice on and sell the supplied tyres if you so desired.
Indeed, that’s my thoughts too.
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With a bit of luck they'll be a sales flop and there'll be a load of cheap basic spec red ones being given away at the end of production :laugh:
And an even nicer white one that’s £500 cheaper with my name on it.
(Disclaimer, I’m weirdly more interested in the upcoming leccy GTI than the Ed50 for some reason)
whilst I sit (im)patiently waiting for the order books to open...
What are other buyers doing? thoughts appreciated!
Whilst sitting (im)patiently crunching apples and refreshing VW UK’s configurator multiple times a day in case something appears on there (full of errors) maybe consider your own usage rather than other people who will quite possibly use the car very differently to you.
Will it be a main car or a garage toy?
What other cars are there in the household?
Do you commute in it and if so what sort of commute?
What type of passengers do you carry and how often?
What’s the likely annual mileage you’ll cover in it?
Will you use it for long holiday road trips?
Will you take it to car shows?
Will you ever use it on track days?
Do you have a ceiling budget?
Literally every purchaser will have a different criteria and buyers of second hand special edition VW’s tend to be particularly anal and weird about specs (despite them paying damn near as much for one that’s a few years old as the original purchaser would have bought it for new with discounts)
It wouldn't cost that much to put four new tyres of your choice on and sell the supplied tyres if you so desired.
Indeed, that’s my thoughts too.
Thank for the reply. Yes I'm fully considering my usage, but posted hoping to hear thoughts and opinions from other forum users on what they were going to be speccing and why. Maybe for instance someone on here has used semi-slicks on the road for a sustained period and had a helpful piece of insight? Or maybe someone more qualified than me may be able to shed some light on the 20% increase in spring stiffness in real world experience. You know, helpful stuff.
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I’ll excuse your sarcasm and put my answer a bit more bluntly:
If we know what you would be using the car for we can actually target some assistance.
Me: 38 years of GTI and R ownership including Ed40 and TCR which had factory stiffened suspension closely related to but not identical to Ed50 of which NOBODY in the UK currently has any direct experience of. :wink:
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You’ll excuse my sarcasm? I must have imagined your sarcasm towards my user name and apparent belief I’m just sat at my PC constantly refreshing the configurator….
Don’t worry, I shall indeed be making my own mind up. As you’ve quite rightly said everyone will have a different requirement.
Thanks though.
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It was a poor attempt at humour trying to put a smile on your face and to encourage you to state your usage criteria so people could indeed be helpful.
A bit of leg pulling and irreverence is just my style of posting, if you spend a bit of time here you’ll see it often enough. No offence intended.
Indeed I started this thread to be helpful.
I’ll shut up now and leave those actually intending to buy the model to discuss it before the YouTubers spread their invaluable opinions far and wide once the press cars are punted out…
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Gotcha, I will bear that in mind! Likely I just misread it and got a bit touchy…
I am leaning towards going for the perf pack. You only live once I suppose! Will just have to slow down a bit in the wet and strengthen my core… :grin: although the suggestion of switching the tyres is a fair one if they do prove a bit too unsuitable for the heavy rain.
It will be my daily driver, I will hopefully take it on a few track days. Tend to do less that 10k miles a year and hope to keep it for a good 6 to 8 years.
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Yes, my apologies, most of the rubbish that comes out of my keyboard is an acquired taste at the very least and I was zipping about a bit so probably should have gone in heavier with the emojis.
This forum is a bit like a friendly country pub rather than some more formal nerdy message boards so you’ll have to excuse an occasional village idiot like myself passing through.
Personal opinion, the Performance pack would be sought after on second hand models so its value would be reasonably well maintained long term. I sincerely doubt you’d notice any significant differences on the road other than crashiness over potholes on a road car (similar to a GTI TCR) as far as sharpness goes because the Clubsport handles really well anyway. But the nerd points alone would be a huge draw for the Perf Pack.
Personally I wouldn’t spec it but I’d recommend anyone even considering it to go for it owing to its second hand market desirability and maybe if it was actually really good you’d kick yourself for not speccing it. A bit of a leap of faith required but I’d trust VW engineers.
On previous VW models where bucket seats were offered as options these cars fetched better money and were always a talking point so I’d expect the Performance Pack to be much played by VW’s advertising and influencers which will lift the image and therefore desirability so probably well worth ticking that box in the absence of bucket seats. Same goes for the fluffy steering wheel option.
Tyres, Andrew Chapple of volkwizard, states the Bridgestones are way better in the damp than the Cup 2’s VW previously used, so potentially useable in the UK as summer tyres. Then get a second set for winter use fitted with Michelin all season tyres. Some Estoril replicas for £600 and Michelins for another £600 could be a wise buy for winter salt and potholes etc thus preserving the expensive Warmenau wheels for use during the daylight months.
If you’re going to do track days then definitely spec the Performance Pack although a standard Clubsport can hold its own pretty well.
Right, I really am going to shut up now and let actual buyers discuss.
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Right, I really am going to shut up now and let actual buyers discuss.
So even if your dealer made you a great offer on a standard white Ed50 you'd say no? With your reputation? :whistle: :laugh:
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Right, I really am going to shut up now and let actual buyers discuss.
So even if your dealer made you a great offer on a standard white Ed50 you'd say no? With your reputation? :whistle: :laugh:
:whistle:
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Yes, my apologies, most of the rubbish that comes out of my keyboard is an acquired taste at the very least and I was zipping about a bit so probably should have gone in heavier with the emojis.
This forum is a bit like a friendly country pub rather than some more formal nerdy message boards so you’ll have to excuse an occasional village idiot like myself passing through.
Personal opinion, the Performance pack would be sought after on second hand models so its value would be reasonably well maintained long term. I sincerely doubt you’d notice any significant differences on the road other than crashiness over potholes on a road car (similar to a GTI TCR) as far as sharpness goes because the Clubsport handles really well anyway. But the nerd points alone would be a huge draw for the Perf Pack.
Personally I wouldn’t spec it but I’d recommend anyone even considering it to go for it owing to its second hand market desirability and maybe if it was actually really good you’d kick yourself for not speccing it. A bit of a leap of faith required but I’d trust VW engineers.
On previous VW models where bucket seats were offered as options these cars fetched better money and were always a talking point so I’d expect the Performance Pack to be much played by VW’s advertising and influencers which will lift the image and therefore desirability so probably well worth ticking that box in the absence of bucket seats. Same goes for the fluffy steering wheel option.
Tyres, Andrew Chapple of volkwizard, states the Bridgestones are way better in the damp than the Cup 2’s VW previously used, so potentially useable in the UK as summer tyres. Then get a second set for winter use fitted with Michelin all season tyres. Some Estoril replicas for £600 and Michelins for another £600 could be a wise buy for winter salt and potholes etc thus preserving the expensive Warmenau wheels for use during the daylight months.
If you’re going to do track days then definitely spec the Performance Pack although a standard Clubsport can hold its own pretty well.
Right, I really am going to shut up now and let actual buyers discuss.
Thanks! Appreciate the insight, yes agree on the resale elements. It was the same on all my previous Renaultsports. I always spec’d the cup chassis and this was hugely desirable at trade in. I might see if my dealer will do a bit of a trade on the tyres, not hopeful but if you don’t ask you don’t get!
And yes, I’ve now watched the Volkzwizard video. I must admit to making a little ooooh noise when the alcantara steering wheel came up, must defo be getting old!
Will keeping thinking but heading more towards speccing the PP.
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I was contemplating specs and what might appear on configurator and then I had a horrible thought…Has it crossed anyone’s mind that VW UK might have another “TCR moment” and decide UK need a standard spec ED50 with PP included (as they did with TCR and Akra exhaust).
I think they will probably want a wide base so they sell as many as possible, so am thinking they wont do it, but it was just a thought.
I’m just wondering what budget will do for 1st year registration and then the subsequent years with hefty yearly charges. They certainly wont be reducing or keeping the same.I appreciate others can see passed this point.
@Exonian funny you mentiioned Leccy Golf as i have given up on seeing any time soon. Latest informed sources say it’s moved from 2028 to 2029 and now down for 2030.
Its going to be long enough for ID Polo GTI to appear in late 2026 but like idea of clubsport version of that excites me.
Final point those that watched Volkswizard. do you think he was a little harsh on it? he mentioned he was trying to get VW invite and then IMHO stated a string of points that I could imagine PR and Marketing team concluding …”maybe he’s not who we want on the trip”. Or was it just me?
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Dependant on interior space and other specifications the ID.2/Polo GTI would be of interest me, as would a Cupra Raval as they’d probably suit my needs pretty well. If they’re anywhere near as attractive as an A290 they would tempt me.
300+ BHP is probably very excessive for the roads I mostly use, but keen handling and sharp engine response are essentials for me.
The TCR got the Akra on the 2020(?) model year change but still required the Reifnitz or Pretoria/Cup2 packs to be optioned if you didn’t want the Fuchs 18’s (although DCC was still a stand alone option but lacked the lower and stiffer springs of the optional wheel packs).
I think it unlikely that VW UK would add the Akra as standard on the Ed50, and it’ll be interesting to see if we even get DCC as standard.
I reckon the Performance Pack with all the handling upgrades plus Akra will potentially actually look decent value compared to just adding the Akra to a regular Clubby or R. But never say never.
I’ll have to watch the Volkswizard vid again, but Andrew doesn’t normally hold back too much on his opinions which gives him credibility to enthusiasts even if we don’t always 100% agree with him. With a car like the Ed50 you’d hope that VW would want that credibility angle bearing in mind the enthusiast base, as opposed to a launch of something like the new T-Roc with its mass market target. Vacuous influencers will be called in no doubt for both launches, but where the T-Roc just needs a glossy image the Ed50 is somewhat more focussed and its target market more switched on.
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Yes, my apologies, most of the rubbish that comes out of my keyboard is an acquired taste at the very least and I was zipping about a bit so probably should have gone in heavier with the emojis.
This forum is a bit like a friendly country pub rather than some more formal nerdy message boards so you’ll have to excuse an occasional village idiot like myself passing through.
Personal opinion, the Performance pack would be sought after on second hand models so its value would be reasonably well maintained long term. I sincerely doubt you’d notice any significant differences on the road other than crashiness over potholes on a road car (similar to a GTI TCR) as far as sharpness goes because the Clubsport handles really well anyway. But the nerd points alone would be a huge draw for the Perf Pack.
Personally I wouldn’t spec it but I’d recommend anyone even considering it to go for it owing to its second hand market desirability and maybe if it was actually really good you’d kick yourself for not speccing it. A bit of a leap of faith required but I’d trust VW engineers.
On previous VW models where bucket seats were offered as options these cars fetched better money and were always a talking point so I’d expect the Performance Pack to be much played by VW’s advertising and influencers which will lift the image and therefore desirability so probably well worth ticking that box in the absence of bucket seats. Same goes for the fluffy steering wheel option.
Tyres, Andrew Chapple of volkwizard, states the Bridgestones are way better in the damp than the Cup 2’s VW previously used, so potentially useable in the UK as summer tyres. Then get a second set for winter use fitted with Michelin all season tyres. Some Estoril replicas for £600 and Michelins for another £600 could be a wise buy for winter salt and potholes etc thus preserving the expensive Warmenau wheels for use during the daylight months.
If you’re going to do track days then definitely spec the Performance Pack although a standard Clubsport can hold its own pretty well.
Right, I really am going to shut up now and let actual buyers discuss.
Like the pub analogy, as this forum has always had the car chat over a pint appeal, opposed to some of the forums where lines are drawn and it can all get a little unsavoury and long may this forum continue in that manner, :)
Still running our 2019 R but not much to say about it these days thats not already been said other than its still a very satisfying car to own and drive.
My 128Ti goes back on 12th December, and should be handed the Cupra Terramar 272 PS VZ1 PHEV, which is something completely left field for me as exclusively driven mild/hot hatches my entire lifetime, so it will be interesting to see how get on with the SUV feel and how handles (as it is touted to have some performance abilities even if not to levels used to) and my first dip into the world of electric. Get a £500 EV credit, so should see my running costs drop from the £160 put in most months.
We think we run the 2019 R for another 3 years and then swap it in for a 2-3 year old Clubsport or R .
Would really like the ED50 in either the red or green, but think I would want Akrapovic/performance pack to do it justice as something bit special,
I was one of those who benefited from the adding of the Akra on my TCR as standard, probably the only time ever got something free on a car, and likely again!
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Like the pub analogy, as this forum has always had the car chat over a pint appeal, opposed to some of the forums where lines are drawn and it can all get a little unsavoury and long may this forum continue in that manner, :)
Wholeheartedly agree, and that’s a big part of the appeal of this forum for me - that’s why I still pop in regularly and I’ve not owned a Golf since 2016! :shocked:
I think the forum strapline sums it up nicely - for anyone who’s not familiar with it, scroll down to the very bottom right corner of the web page………..
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On specs I assume there will be an option for leather seats and also for the exterior I'm not fan of all black wheels so would like a good silver or silver/black choice. My 7.5 GTi PP is specced with leather, Dynaudio sound and 19" Brescias. I've specced a 8.5 Clubsport with all my options on VW configurator and that has a list price of £52k.
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There is certainly leather as an option on the German configurator. Not something I’ll be speccing myself as I avoid as much leather as possible, and I was particularly pleased to see the Alcantara steering wheel option as that will be great for me too! Also you’ll lose the lovely Clark colour way too, (sorry if I'm telling you what you already know...). I can’t see VW not offering leather in UK if it’s there for German market. If you want it then I'm sure you'll be able to have it!
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Edition 50 available on the Swiss VW website for the equivalent of £53.6k with PP, tornado red and Alcantara wheel. Make of that what you will. 🤣
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I'd love to see this advert on UK tv's :grin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wInJQK2zWhU
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I'd love to see this advert on UK tv's :grin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wInJQK2zWhU
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after harping on for months that I was getting an ED50, and having done what seems to be an unhealthy amount of back and forth thinking, I have now just ordered a clubsport! I had decided on an ED50 without perf pack, as I was concerned about the firmer ride on our terrible roads and doubted I'd notice any difference in the chassis on normal roads. Even when on a track occasionally I'm not going to be at 10/10th's so I didn't think I'd miss it. Then I started thinking, well, if I'm not going perf pack, what are the real differences between ED50 and CS. I only got to 4, the extra 20hp, different seat trim, bespoke colours and the optional Alcantara wheel (which I admit I did want..)
Then I thought, well, for the price difference was the ED50 worth it? My answer for me was no, so I have gone the CS route!
I'm sure those who do order the ED50 will love it, particularly if you can make use of the improved chassis, but for me I'm now very excited and hope it's a big step on from my 7.5PP!
Spec I've ordered,
Oryx White Premium
Performance package
DCC
Harmon Kardon
Area View
Black Exterior Styling pack
Curtain and side airbags (why are these not standard, even if the price was included in base...)
LED animated wing mirror turn signals
Dynamic Centre caps
Edit: and Drive the Deal is amazing.. I'd never heard of it until folks on here talked about it. Wow... :grin:
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Great choice! Especially given how similar to mine, I'm biased....
I'm really pleased with mine so far and have found the ride to be incredibly comfortable given the type of car and definitely better than my old TCR, also on DCC. I may still consider an ED50 as I really want TR but it would have to be a great deal or a lightly used one.
Any idea of delivery timescale?
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Thanks! Estimated March, I'm hoping as early in March as possible!
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Congrats on the new Clubsport order. I test drove a standard MK8.5 GTI and a Clubsport in the last few weeks and was impressed with both cars. A few people on the forum posted on how good the 8.5 is compared to the 8, but I was sceptical. I bought an ED45 from new and kept it for a short time as I simply didn’t gel with it. I found the new Clubsport to be a far better drive, a few small improvements to the throttle response and a tighter, more direct front end make a huge difference in my opinion.
It makes me smile when people say they can’t feel the difference in cars during real world driving and they need to be driving flat out. In my experience a well sorted chassis is noticeable from the get go through the steering wheel, the turn in, the fluid feel and weight transfer during cornering etc, and you don’t have to be going anywhere near flat out to appreciate it.
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ED50 now available on .IE site.
https://www.volkswagen.ie/en/build.html/__app/the-new-golf/golf-performance/golf-gti-edition-50.app?---=%7B%22configuration-step-navigation-service%22%3A%22%2F%3FconfigStep%3D%257B%2522context%2522%253A%252230602-32035-Golf%2BGTI%2BEdition%2B50%2522%252C%2522selectedStep%2522%253A%2522engine%2522%257D%22%7D&category-app=private&carlineId-app=30602&salesGroupId-app=32035&trimName-app=Golf+GTI+Edition+50&modelId-app=DA19GZ%24MAAUE1X%24GPF6PF6%24GPG4PG4%24GPK2PK2%24GWW1WW1%24GW5AW5A%24GYOSYOS&modelVersion-app=1&modelYear-app=2026