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Title: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 10 August 2008, 19:30
Evening All,

Anyone know of any good suppliers for Black or C/F VW badges for the front and rear of the MK5?

Saw this pic on golfmkv.com and thought the C/F ones looked v :cool: on a Steel Grey car

(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/10/web/2290000-2290999/2290222_33_full.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 21:13
....CF front and back from the TTshop near Bedford - Phone Dave/Justin 01234 855 555.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/DRL_On_18June08.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_rear_20June08.jpg)


Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 10 August 2008, 21:15
Cheers RedRobin.  :smiley:

Off the top of your head can you remember how much?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Greenouse on 10 August 2008, 21:22
I'd be interested too. Spoke to TT shop at Inters but they've not got back to me. Suppose I should chase them  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 21:55
I'd be interested too. Spoke to TT shop at Inters but they've not got back to me. Suppose I should chase them  :smiley:

....Yes - They've only recently started to be suppliers of the CF badges. I know because I set it up for them.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Greenouse on 10 August 2008, 21:57
I'll defo get in touch then, Cheers Robin  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: dan_apps on 10 August 2008, 21:58
i presume thats your motor redrobin? looks very nice mate  :cool:  :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:00
Cheers RedRobin.  :smiley:

Off the top of your head can you remember how much?

....I got the very last Mk5 rear badge lock from oempl.us and so that price no longer applies. Can't remember the cost of the front except expensive with the fecking UK import tax! Best to ask TTshop about prices. Obviously CF is a lot more expensive than a black paint finish.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:01
i presume thats your motor redrobin? looks very nice mate  :cool:  :cool:

....Thanks mate - Compliments always appreciated :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 10 August 2008, 22:03
Cheers RedRobin.  :smiley:

Off the top of your head can you remember how much?

....I got the very last Mk5 rear badge lock from oempl.us and so that price no longer applies. Can't remember the cost of the front except expensive with the fecking UK import tax! Best to ask TTshop about prices. Obviously CF is a lot more expensive than a black paint finish.

Ok Thanks, I will give the TTshop a call tomorrow.

I know the feeling on the import tax, received an invoice from Fedex on Friday nearly two weeks after they delivered my C/F intake from the US for £26.  :angry:

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Greenouse on 10 August 2008, 22:07
Let us know how you get on Steve  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Hurdy on 10 August 2008, 22:12
GROUP BUY!!!!!!
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Greenouse on 10 August 2008, 22:14
^^^^^^^^

What he said...............
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: MAT ed30 on 10 August 2008, 22:15
you could always join in on our group buy
http://www.r32oc.com/showthread.php?t=5467
 :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: dan_apps on 10 August 2008, 22:19

you could always join in on our group buy
http://www.r32oc.com/showthread.php?t=5467
 :wink:

love the carbon fibre wingmirror covers and front grille piece, would have some of that  :cool: +  :cool: =  :cool:  :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:21
....Hmm - Someone on that forum mucked the TTshop around on a recent GB didn't they? Still, it's not up to me.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:23

you could always join in on our group buy
http://www.r32oc.com/showthread.php?t=5467
 :wink:

love the carbon fibre wingmirror covers and front grille piece, would have some of that  :cool: +  :cool: =  :cool:  :cool:

....From OSIR via the TTshop.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Top Cat on 10 August 2008, 22:24
Im only guessing but i reckon hurd'ys just had an accident in his trouser's.

 by the way Matt was all that lovely stuff made by osir
EDIT cheer's RR
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 10 August 2008, 22:25
GROUP BUY!!!!!!

I will ask the question when I speak to them in the morning.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 10 August 2008, 22:27
Im only guessing but i reckon hurd'ys just had an accident in his trouser's.

Do you think there is a version of AA for people with a 'passion' for Carbon Fibre??? :laugh: :laugh:  :laugh:

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Top Cat on 10 August 2008, 22:29
You should have plenty of time to save up for those goodies ive just recieved my footrest after a 11 week wait.

Im not having a dig at the TT shop there they have acted properly during my wait.  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: dan_apps on 10 August 2008, 22:30


....From OSIR via the TTshop.

GROUP BUY!!!!!!


RR a wealth of knowledge + agree with you Hurdy im SOLD on this!  :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Top Cat on 10 August 2008, 22:35
Guy's does anyone know of a place were i can get all those interior bit's in Aluminium and dont say try gulf he wont make them just for me please please help me out guy's  :cry:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:37
You should have plenty of time to save up for those goodies ive just recieved my footrest after a 11 week wait.

Im not having a dig at the TT shop there they have acted properly during my wait.  :wink:

....That's the problem: OSIR are a small company in the Far East and Riso takes great care to design and ensure the high quality of his products. Shipping and UK Customs don't help and the TTshop is piggy-in-the-middle (though of course making a profit). I've always found Justin in particular to be very helpful and doing all he can. It's just a matter of understanding and being patient - CF products aren't mass produced.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:43
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/ccad226357.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Top Cat on 10 August 2008, 22:46
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/ccad226357.jpg)
HOLY sh/t She didn't deliver my box from osir  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 10 August 2008, 22:49

HOLY sh/t She didn't deliver my box from osir  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

....Really? She's a regular at my door :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Top Cat on 10 August 2008, 22:52
Ive just pressed bookmark this page by mistake oh well  :tongue:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Hurdy on 10 August 2008, 23:07
I wonder if they would do me an extra special couple of silver CF badges? :undecided:......RR?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 11 August 2008, 00:21
I wonder if they would do me an extra special couple of silver CF badges? :undecided:......RR?

....Justin at the TTshop is the best person to ask, but the carbonfibre VW badges are a different source from OSIR who do the silver CF. OSIR haven't ever made any moulds for VW badges AFAIK.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 11 August 2008, 00:22
Ive just pressed bookmark this page by mistake oh well  :tongue:

....Pretty ladies can have that effect on a fella :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: MAT ed30 on 11 August 2008, 11:09
....Hmm - Someone on that forum mucked the TTshop around on a recent GB didn't they? Still, it's not up to me.

not sure fella i dont speak for other people and what other people do with other dealers is there problem but i will be getting a few bits for mine  :evil:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 11 August 2008, 11:17
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/ccad226357.jpg)
HOLY sh/t She didn't deliver my box from osir  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

I'd certainly deliver in her box though!  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 11 August 2008, 19:02
Quick update.

Called TT shop this morning, neither Dave or Justin where available so spoke to someone in sales.

They didn't have a clue what I was on about and said I should check the website, I said I had and they aren't listed, they promised a call back within a hour, but no call received.

Not a great start but I will try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 11 August 2008, 19:31
Quick update.

Called TT shop this morning, neither Dave or Justin where available so spoke to someone in sales.

They didn't have a clue what I was on about and said I should check the website, I said I had and they aren't listed, they promised a call back within a hour, but no call received.

Not a great start but I will try again tomorrow.

....^Not good! I'll bring it to their notice tomorrow. I know that Justin was away today.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 11 August 2008, 19:52

....^Not good! I'll bring it to their notice tomorrow. I know that Justin was away today.

I agree, first impressions and all that.

As I said I will give them another try in the morning and will hopefully get a better response.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Caz on 11 August 2008, 23:07
Cool! Those badges look well sweet!  :cool:
Got to say, im not keen on red cars, but carbon fibre, even that small makes that car looks niccceeee! :)

If this going as a group buy, im in! :D

... but i dont want that girl delivering mine... thank you please...  :rolleyes: lol

cx
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 11 August 2008, 23:32
....I'm sure UPS can find a hot guy to deliver to you, Caz :evil:

Thanx for the compliment on my red GTI :smiley: Here's the best pic so far, taken by our very own Horney (he does deliveries in the white VDub alongside) : -

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_Nick_IMG_9859.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Caz on 12 August 2008, 07:22
ill hold you to that RedRobin! LOL :P

that is an ace pic.. car really does look sweet..  :smiley:

where you get those carbon fibre bits from?




GROUP BUY GROUP BUY! lol
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: NewGolf on 12 August 2008, 07:43
Why doesn't my postie look like that? I get an unshaven yob who almost breaks the door down when he has a parcel  :sad:

Prefer her anytime..... :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 11:13
....

PLEASE READ:

....Okay, guys 'n gal - Dave is the (very busy) MD of the TTshop and TTSroadsport and Justin is Sales and, being a VDub owner/enthusiast himself, is the best guy to contact re VW goodies such as carbonfibre.

I've visited them many times and can tell you that they are primarily a very busy workshop rather than solely an online retailer. Anything carbonfibre is by nature not mass produced and usually has to be shipped in from overseas - Hence inevitable delays. The VW CF badges aren't a live product yet but the first batch should be arriving soon. The best thing to do is to phone Justin 01234 855 555 and he'll at least capture your purchase desires and stay in contact with you re progress.

Apologies on behalf of Dave and his team to anyone who only managed to speak to a passing workshop techie who didn't respond as expected. They are working to improve such communication problems.

I wish to add that I have no vested or commercial interests there - It's just my sharing and networking to everyone's mutual benefit.

RR :smiley:   
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 11:16
....Now, to get back on topic! : -

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/UPSDelivery.jpg)
 
:evil:

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: joesgti on 12 August 2008, 11:33
id be up for a group buy on this is somebody was arranging it, (maybe robin as he set ttshop up with them and also could probs get the best price  :wink:)  :smiley: :smiley:

id be wanting front and back  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: luca on 12 August 2008, 11:34
Joe i'll take the black ones off your hands if your replacing with cf ones :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 12 August 2008, 11:37
....

PLEASE READ:

....Okay, guys 'n gal - Dave is the (very busy) MD of the TTshop and TTSroadsport and Justin is Sales and, being a VDub owner/enthusiast himself, is the best guy to contact re VW goodies such as carbonfibre.

I've visited them many times and can tell you that they are primarily a very busy workshop rather than solely an online retailer. Anything carbonfibre is by nature not mass produced and usually has to be shipped in from overseas. The VW CF badges aren't a live product yet but the first batch should be arriving soon. The best thing to do is to phone Justin 01234 855 555 and he'll at least capture your purchase desires and stay in contact with you re progress.

Apologies on behalf of Dave and his team to anyone who only managed to speak to a passing workshop techie who didn't respond as expected. They are working to improve such communication problems.

I wish to add that I have no vested or commercial interests there - It's just my sharing and networking to everyone's mutual benefit.

RR :smiley:   

Typically I was on hold to the TT Shop when I saw the notification of your post RR.

I have spoken to Dave and he explained everything as per your post.

He also explained some of the ideas of how the supply of the C/F VW badges may work based on possible need to exchange the existing chrome VW ones.

I have registered my interest and will be going over to see them once they are in stock.  :smiley:


 
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: SteveP on 12 August 2008, 11:42
id be up for a group buy on this is somebody was arranging it, (maybe robin as he set ttshop up with them and also could probs get the best price  :wink:)  :smiley: :smiley:

id be wanting front and back  :smiley:

From what the TTshop said to me these are effectively made by a small 'cottage industry' type company in the USA, so I doubt volume discounts would be possible and initial supplies will be limited.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: joesgti on 12 August 2008, 11:54
id be up for a group buy on this is somebody was arranging it, (maybe robin as he set ttshop up with them and also could probs get the best price  :wink:)  :smiley: :smiley:

id be wanting front and back  :smiley:

From what the TTshop said to me these are effectively made by a small 'cottage industry' type company in the USA, so I doubt volume discounts would be possible and initial supplies will be limited.

yes, but im sure the TT shop could sort us some kind of group discount
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Caz on 12 August 2008, 12:21
so... (appologies for being blonde) but... will this shop be getting some in?

is there then not a good point us having a list, to hand to them for them to know how many ppl want them, to then get them in?

cx
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 12:32
id be up for a group buy on this is somebody was arranging it, (maybe robin as he set ttshop up with them and also could probs get the best price  :wink:)  :smiley: :smiley:

id be wanting front and back  :smiley:

From what the TTshop said to me these are effectively made by a small 'cottage industry' type company in the USA, so I doubt volume discounts would be possible and initial supplies will be limited.

....Exactly. OSIR are similar - A clever HK designer called Riso >< osiR (get it?) but the smaller producers seem to make better quality (Seibon doesn't have the greatest reputation!). It's also an expensive material and very labour intensive and so not the sort of product that any reseller can afford to have big stocks of.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 12:35
so... (appologies for being blonde) but... will this shop be getting some in?

is there then not a good point us having a list, to hand to them for them to know how many ppl want them, to then get them in?

cx

....Okay - How about we start a list here and I'll see what can be arranged with TTshop. Copy the list and repost with your name (forum name is fine at this stage) and your needs, subject to prices we don't know yet.

[If that was a blonde moment Caz, then long live blondes!!.....Pics needed! :kiss: :evil:]
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Hurdy on 12 August 2008, 14:03
Stickied :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: Hurdy on 12 August 2008, 14:04
1. Hurdy - front & rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 12 August 2008, 15:00
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Greenouse on 12 August 2008, 15:07
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear (obv depending on price  :wink:)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: bobotheclown on 12 August 2008, 15:43
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 August 2008, 16:04
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear (depending on the price - I ain't funding them with my left kidney!  :tongue:)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 16:19
....I'll try and find out a ballpark price. Anything carbonfibre is never cheap - It's both an expensive material and labour intensive to create moulds and produce etc. But, it looks the dog's danglies imo.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 12 August 2008, 16:24
yes find outa price before ill commit aswell robin. cheers
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: john_o on 12 August 2008, 16:34
1. Hurdy - front & rear (agreed - depending on price!)
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear (depending on the price - I ain't funding them with my left kidney!  )
6. john_o - front & rear (depending on the price)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 16:38
yes find outa price before ill commit aswell robin. cheers

....Just to let everyone know that this list isn't a commitment but should be a serious intention subject to prices. Once prices are known, the list can be modified by everyone on it. Let's not have any time wasters though, please. :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 12 August 2008, 16:44
1. Hurdy - front & rear (agreed - depending on price!)
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear (depending on the price - I ain't funding them with my left kidney!  )
6. john_o - front & rear (depending on the price)
7. joesgti - front & rear (depending on the price)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: joesgti on 12 August 2008, 16:45
Joe i'll take the black ones off your hands if your replacing with cf ones :wink:
no problem, i only have the front but you can have first dibs  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: luca on 12 August 2008, 17:31
Nice one :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 12 August 2008, 18:48
....I'll try and find out a ballpark price. Anything carbonfibre is never cheap - It's both an expensive material and labour intensive to create moulds and produce etc. But, it looks the dog's danglies imo.

RR, if you don't mind it would be good if you could also confirm the situation with them on how these could be supplied. Dave wasn't sure when I spoke with him earlier if the exchange basis (like the USA manufacturer currently does) was practical/still required or if they where going to recommend a visit to them to complete the exchange and have them fitted.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: dan_apps on 12 August 2008, 18:52
1. Hurdy - front & rear (agreed - depending on price!)
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear (depending on the price - I ain't funding them with my left kidney!  )
6. john_o - front & rear (depending on the price)
7. joesgti - front & rear (depending on the price)
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear (^^as above)


 :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 19:20
....Just to tidy up the list - At this stage it's understood that everyone on this current list is there depending on the prices, so no need to keep repeating it. Thanks :smiley:

1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 19:22
....I'll try and find out a ballpark price. Anything carbonfibre is never cheap - It's both an expensive material and labour intensive to create moulds and produce etc. But, it looks the dog's danglies imo.

RR, if you don't mind it would be good if you could also confirm the situation with them on how these could be supplied. Dave wasn't sure when I spoke with him earlier if the exchange basis (like the USA manufacturer currently does) was practical/still required or if they where going to recommend a visit to them to complete the exchange and have them fitted.

....Will do. As and when Dave/Justin know the answers. Don't forget that this is a new product here in the UK and it doesn't happen overnight. Thanks :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Merlinman on 12 August 2008, 19:49
Just a front if possible for me.

Ta!
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 12 August 2008, 19:53
....Will do. As and when Dave/Justin know the answers. Don't forget that this is a new product here in the UK and it doesn't happen overnight. Thanks :smiley:

Understood. :smiley:

Thanks for help on this, especially as you already have the C/F badges.  :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 20:01
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 August 2008, 20:02
....Will do. As and when Dave/Justin know the answers. Don't forget that this is a new product here in the UK and it doesn't happen overnight. Thanks :smiley:

Understood. :smiley:

Thanks for help on this, especially as you already have the C/F badges.  :cool:

....We all help each other and what goes around comes around :smiley:.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Caz on 12 August 2008, 21:56
i like it when ideas come together.lol :P

RedRobin - hate to disappoint, but im actually a brunette.lol  :grin: and ill still require a hunky male delivery guy..lol



1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: mikebgti on 12 August 2008, 22:17
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti-front&rear


gotta have that carbon fibre on my car :evil:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Caz on 12 August 2008, 22:22
^^ ditto :D

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Manu_R32 on 13 August 2008, 02:12
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti-front&rear
12. Manu_R32 - Front and Rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges
Post by: indublin on 13 August 2008, 10:02
Im only guessing but i reckon hurd'ys just had an accident in his trouser's.

Do you think there is a version of AA for people with a 'passion' for Carbon Fibre??? :laugh: :laugh:  :laugh:



Yeh.... it's called "Sweet FA" cos that's all you will have left in your bank account after all the moddin'  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: MAT ed30 on 13 August 2008, 10:08
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti-front&rear
12. Manu_R32 - Front and Rear
13. MAT ed30- Front & Rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: neg on 13 August 2008, 11:13
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti-front&rear
12. Manu_R32 - Front and Rear
13. MAT ed30- Front & Rear
14. neg - front & rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 13 August 2008, 11:38
something tells me that the TT shop wont be able to sorce this many  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Manu_R32 on 13 August 2008, 11:44
something tells me that the TT shop wont be able to sorce this many  :rolleyes:

If there is a demand...you must supply!  (I Hope!)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: mcnipper on 13 August 2008, 11:51
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti-front&rear
12. Manu_R32 - Front and Rear
13. MAT ed30- Front & Rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: MAT ed30 on 13 August 2008, 11:52
it is a group buy so this is a group  of people wanting to buy  :tongue:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 13 August 2008, 11:54
these badges front and rear must be well over £100 , :shocked:, im gonna save for a miltek b4 carbon fibre badges
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 13 August 2008, 11:57
these badges front and rear must be well over £100 , :shocked:, im gonna save for a miltek b4 carbon fibre badges

you do that phil, pehaps your wife might let you get some fancy badges thow  :huh:  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 13 August 2008, 12:03
Fingers crossed, not too fused about some carbon, prefer to go stainless 1st!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: MAT ed30 on 13 August 2008, 12:07
mmm stainless  :wink:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/milltekonoured30.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 13 August 2008, 12:11
your a bad man Mat!!!, get back on topic or ill get shouted at!  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: john_o on 13 August 2008, 12:13
ooo milltek tips  :drool: :drool: :drool:

at this rate it will be more distinctive to have a normal VW badge  :grin:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Greenouse on 13 August 2008, 13:36
Did someone say Milltek??  :grin:

(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/Greenouse/2008_0426Image0020.jpg)

Sorry Phil  :sad: Couldn't resist  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: MAT ed30 on 13 August 2008, 13:40
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
just get it phil and dont tell the wife  :laugh:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 13 August 2008, 14:13
you bunch of complete ba$tards  :laugh:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 13 August 2008, 14:16
.....M....Mm....Mmmmm.....Mill..............

Nah, Phil you don't want any - They sound awful and are too much effort to keep clean :evil:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: neg on 13 August 2008, 14:38
.....M....Mm....Mmmmm.....Mill..............

Nah, Phil you don't want any - They sound awful and are too much effort to keep clean :evil:

Oh yeah but when clean ...  :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 13 August 2008, 15:47
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/hlight013.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: MAT ed30 on 13 August 2008, 16:19
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/hlight013.jpg)

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :drool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 13 August 2008, 17:13
Back on track. :wink:

1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti-front&rear
12. Manu_R32 - Front and Rear
13. MAT ed30- Front & Rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 13 August 2008, 20:53
thats it im out of here  :sad:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Greenouse on 13 August 2008, 20:57
thats it im out of here  :sad:

To buy a Milltek???  :wink: Nice work Phil  :grin:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Pirelli_P on 14 August 2008, 15:36
I'v been keeping an eye on this thread, do we know a price and time scale?

I would want front and back ... but the price is the deciding factor! 
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 14 August 2008, 16:20
I'v been keeping an eye on this thread, do we know a price and time scale?

I would want front and back ... but the price is the deciding factor! 

....No we don't, and shan't do so until the first shipment arrives at TTSroadsport (aka TTshop). Everyone will just have to be patient - It's a new product line. But I will keep you all informed, rest assured.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 14 August 2008, 16:23
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti - front & rear
12. Manu_R32 - front & rear
13. MAT ed30- front & rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
16. Pirelli_P - front & rear

[This list is not a commitment yet - Just a serious intention, subject to price]
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: DomT on 14 August 2008, 18:12
Hi Guys - add me to the list please C/F - Front & Back

Dom
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 14 August 2008, 18:20
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti - front & rear
12. Manu_R32 - front & rear
13. MAT ed30- front & rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
16. Pirelli_P - front & rear
17. DomT - front & rear

[This list is not a commitment yet - Just a serious intention, subject to price]
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: k4ith on 14 August 2008, 21:37
just my 2p worth but if your buying 20 front and backs why not buy from OSir direct and cut out the tt-shop?
deliver to central point to save on import tax, i have never paid tax on anything i have bought abroad :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: zerolight on 15 August 2008, 10:28
Are these same same as the ones RedRobin has fitted to his car? That nice kinda flat looking matt black front and a glossy looking black at the rear? Or are these new variants in that kinda stripey CF look? I like the look of RR's and would be tempted.

How do you fit them?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 15 August 2008, 10:52
just my 2p worth but if your buying 20 front and backs why not buy from OSir direct and cut out the tt-shop?
deliver to central point to save on import tax, i have never paid tax on anything i have bought abroad :wink:

It's a good point but I don't think there from OSir, see below from RR.


....Justin at the TTshop is the best person to ask, but the carbonfibre VW badges are a different source from OSIR who do the silver CF. OSIR haven't ever made any moulds for VW badges AFAIK.

Also from what the TTShop said the badges are normally done on a part exchange basis so to do this direct with the guys who make them would be a bit of a mare.

You must be the lucky one on the import duty stuff last 3 out of 5 packages have cost me extra.  :angry: 
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 15 August 2008, 11:50
it may be a good point robin, if you sourced these for the TT shop then you will know where the badges are from, so could infact "cut out" the TT shop as i bet they put a big mark up on them, so may get them reasonably cheap.  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 15 August 2008, 11:53
Are these same same as the ones RedRobin has fitted to his car? That nice kinda flat looking matt black front and a glossy looking black at the rear? Or are these new variants in that kinda stripey CF look? I like the look of RR's and would be tempted.

How do you fit them?

....Exactly the same as mine - Not from OSIR but to as high a standard.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/VWcarbon.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_TSN_VW_rearCF.jpg)


Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 15 August 2008, 11:58
i see swirls robin, tuttut
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 15 August 2008, 12:01
it may be a good point robin, if you sourced these for the TT shop then you will know where the badges are from, so could infact "cut out" the TT shop as i bet they put a big mark up on them, so may get them reasonably cheap.  :smiley: :smiley:

....So I source a product for friends who run a business specialising in such things so that the product can be obtained much more easily and without all the hassle and surprise extra costs of shipping and import tax etc, and then I do the dirty on them and cut them out - Just what sort of person do you think I am?

The likes of k4ith and yourself may like to take note that OSIR and such suppliers don't take orders direct but only via their exclusively appointed resellers (TTshop/TTSroadsport for Europe in this case). Also that UK Customs are much more up-to-speed than they used to be and you either can't get your goods delivered before paying UK taxes or the tax bill follows in the post.

But if you want to go ahead on your own accord, Good Luck!

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 15 August 2008, 12:03
i see swirls robin, tuttut

....Nothing that can't be put right. Besides, I enjoy driving the car more than just looking at it in such close detail.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 15 August 2008, 12:06
it may be a good point robin, if you sourced these for the TT shop then you will know where the badges are from, so could infact "cut out" the TT shop as i bet they put a big mark up on them, so may get them reasonably cheap.  :smiley: :smiley:

....So I source a product for friends who run a business specialising in such things so that the product can be obtained much more easily and without all the hassle and surprise extra costs of shipping and import tax etc, and then I do the dirty on them and cut them out - Just what sort of person do you think I am?

The likes of k4ith and yourself may like to take note that OSIR and such suppliers don't take orders direct but only via their exclusively appointed resellers (TTshop/TTSroadsport for Europe in this case). Also that UK Customs are much more up-to-speed than they used to be and you either can't get your goods delivered before paying UK taxes or the tax bill follows in the post.

But if you want to go ahead on your own accord, Good Luck!


alright robin, no need to get emotional..... :huh:

anyway i dont care who or where i would be to get it from, aslong as its cheaper than anywhere else  :smiley:

and also i havnt paid duty on the last 4 or 5 packages ive had from america and japan and thats over about 8months so there must be a hell of a backlog of bills???
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: k4ith on 15 August 2008, 18:51
I see where you are coming from Red, and i am not wanting to tread on anyones toes or upset friendships but to be fair its a business transaction at the end of the day. 20 people want the best price so other people adding a bit for themselves makes no sense to me.On the Ukmkivs forum a guy organised a GB for Vag-com for about 100 people some serious cash involved and import duty was paid legit and we all got a good price at the end of the day but we avoided resellers and got direct from the source.I appreciate how hard organising a GB is as i did one a while ago on ukmkivs and tried to do one here for Zaino products.

Wee tip for anyone importing goods or buying from ebay usa ask the seller if they wouldn't mind marking the value of the goods down on the import docket, this is sometimes not the best as if it goes missing then insurance is a bugger.
or wrap in gift wrapping paper and mark as present as i was fortunate to get done while buying an Arai crash helmet :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 15 August 2008, 19:07
....Let's just wait and see what prices TTSroadsport are able to offer, bearing in mind that they are appointed as sole European resellers and so I don't see how people in the UK can buy direct anyway. People can then take their name off the list or not at that stage.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 18 August 2008, 10:18
look what i got sent http://carbondynamics.net/   :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:

some seriouse stuff on that site  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: markymark on 19 August 2008, 13:51
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11.mikebgti - front & rear
12. Manu_R32 - front & rear
13. MAT ed30- front & rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
16. Pirelli_P - front & rear
17. DomT - front & rear
18. Markymark - Front & Rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Ady-GTi on 19 August 2008, 16:22
Put me on the list as interested, in the CF front and rear - subject to price.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 19 August 2008, 16:31
Put me on the list as interested, in the CF front and rear - subject to price.

Cheers.

just copy and paste with ur name  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 20 August 2008, 17:09
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11. mikebgti - front & rear
12. Manu_R32 - front & rear
13. MAT ed30- front & rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
16. Pirelli_P - front & rear
17. DomT - front & rear
18. Markymark - front & rear
19. Ady-GTI - front & rear

All subject to price, hopefully very soon now (it's a long story!)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: bacillus on 20 August 2008, 19:25
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11. mikebgti - front & rear
12. Manu_R32 - front & rear
13. MAT ed30- front & rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
16. Pirelli_P - front & rear
17. DomT - front & rear
18. Markymark - front & rear
19. Ady-GTI - front & rear
20. bacillus - front & rear
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: WhiteGTI on 24 August 2008, 18:32
Pirelli_P and myself were talking, and have a question...

Is there anything that stops these badges being able to be stolen off the car? I can imagine that a nice C/F badge would be quite appealing to a thief? Are they like the standard badges and just twist off? I'm not too fussed if my black badge gets stolen, but if I'm paying in excess of £50 for a C/F one, I would prefer if it wasn't!!

I thought that a cable-tie could be used to tie it to something more secure, however a thief could quite easily snap/cut the tie if he wanted the badge that much.

Opinions / Answers ??  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 24 August 2008, 18:44
From what I understand they are direct replacements for the chrome pieces, so I surpose not.  :undecided:

Having just taken mine off today to paint them matte black (a temp measure as I get the feeling that these might not be available for a while), the front one is more secure as to get it off in one piece you need to release the whole badge by the clip on the back first for which you need to bonnet open.

As for the rear (on the raised chrome version) this is clipped around the edge so unless you permanently attach it with adhesive then I can see any other way.


Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: WhiteGTI on 24 August 2008, 19:19
the front one is more secure as to get it off in one piece you need to release the whole badge by the clip on the back first for which you need to bonnet open.

That's strange, mine (and on the tutorial from vortex) just twisted anti-clockwise and then pull up and out to release. This resulted in the badge and the holder to which it's clipped onto, to come out, leaving a circular hole in the front of the car. I then had to get the actual badge off the holder by prizing apart the clips. But in terms of a thief I think he would be more than satisfied with the badge and the holder, as he could easily sort it out later when he gets back home.

StegeP, is yours definitely different to my description above? As in it doesn't just twist out? I'd be interested to see if others on here had a different attachment mechanism. Mine is a 57plate car by the way - just incase they changed it on newer/older models.

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 24 August 2008, 19:30
....My front badge doesn't twist out - It's very securely fixed. My rear badge is bonded to the core lock mechanism, so even more secure. I part exchanged my stock lock as a part of the purchase.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: WhiteGTI on 24 August 2008, 19:48
How strange?! Mine is definitely not broken either, incase you were wondering!?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 24 August 2008, 19:53
How strange?! Mine is definitely not broken either, incase you were wondering!?

My front badge twists out once I press down on the clip on the back, unless I press this clip the badge won't turn.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: WhiteGTI on 24 August 2008, 20:04
Hmmm ok thanks for the info SteveP and RR, I'll see if someone else posts a situation similar to mine, and will check my badge in the morning to see if anything obvious looks snapped/broken. Interesting to see that the tutorial that i previously mentioned said that the badge simply twists out. Maybe in doing so, you break a clip? ...although it was really easy to unscrew, i.e. there wasn't really enough pressure required that would result in a snapped clip..
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 24 August 2008, 21:02
Just checked mine when refitting the badges and found that the front one can just be twisted off but it did take quite a bit of pressure on mine, it is easier if it's unclipped first.

So this makes the point you raised WhiteGTI very valid and defiantly something which needs to be checked with the TTShop once they get the badges in.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: WhiteGTI on 24 August 2008, 21:12
Thanks for checking that Steve, good to know that mine is the same as yours.

Although, it may be too much to assume that a potential thief is aware that the badges just twist off, I still thought it was worth raising just incase it does happen, but I guess that is the risk you have to take.

I'm sorry if my comments put people off the group buy, but i suppose its better knowing before you have to part with a lot of money  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 24 August 2008, 21:26
We don't want to start a resurgence of the 80's trend of stealing VW badges and wearing them on neck chains.  :grin:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: WhiteGTI on 24 August 2008, 21:32
 :grin: :grin: Funny you should say that....my father telling me about those events when he saw how easy the badge was to take off actually prompted me to raise this argument!!

Anyway, enough said...leave it up to people to decide what they want to do. I'm sure there must be a way of making the badges theft-proof anyway.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Pirelli_P on 24 August 2008, 23:19
Pirelli_P and myself were talking, and have a question...



You taking my name in vein again Chris!!?  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 25 August 2008, 06:55
Been thinking about this for a while...can you also put me on the list please subject of course to cost.

Front and rear black CF, looks  :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 25 August 2008, 09:27
1. Hurdy - front & rear
2. SteveP - front & rear
3. Greenouse - front & rear
4. Bobotheclown - front & rear
5. Teutonic_Tamer - front & rear
6. john_o - front & rear
7. joesgti - front & rear
8. Cookiemonster - front & rear
9. Merlinman - front
10. Caz - front & rear
11. mikebgti - front & rear
12. Manu_R32 - front & rear
13. MAT ed30- front & rear
14. neg - front & rear
15. mcnipper - front
16. Pirelli_P - front & rear
17. DomT - front & rear
18. Markymark - front & rear
19. Ady-GTI - front & rear
20. bacillus - front & rear
21. No Golf Clubs at all - front & rear

All subject to price
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Manu_R32 on 26 August 2008, 13:03
Any news?  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 26 August 2008, 15:39
Any news?  :smiley:

x2 :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 26 August 2008, 17:24
....Okay! At last some news. Firstly apologies on behalf of TTSroadsport/TTshop - Producing these carbon badges is very tricky - Cores are needed and the shipping/insurance/tax involved in both directions across the pond is a fat percentage of costs.

This is a far from ideal product for a group buy. Each individual one is hand-made to order only and it's a small cottage industry using expensive materials and TTshop haven't done business with them previously so there's no stock or track record yet.

To buy individually, delivered to your door (within UK mainland only) and including a core : -

- Rears £220 each (would be £244 individually)

- Fronts £100 each (would be £123 individually)

They are trying to establish a buy-back price for your original cores, which would then make your net costs cheaper - Please be patient for a bit longer.

On the basis of the above cost info, would everyone please revise the list if still interested. Doing so still doesn't commit you at this stage.
<<<< COSTS GREATLY REDUCED - SEE LATER POSTS

So, new list............................
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Merlinman on 26 August 2008, 20:27
Not for me, thanks!

Sorry - but appreciate your efforts on our behalf  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 26 August 2008, 21:19
Thanks for the update RR.  :smiley:

For me I think I will hold off putting my name on the new list until we know what the buy-back price is for the original core's, as based on those prices I wouldn't be interested.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 26 August 2008, 22:19
....I can well understand peeps getting cold feet over the costs. If the carbonfibre manufacturer was in the UK it would make a huge difference to costs. Availability of cores, shipping them, and import taxes is a big factor in the costs.

The rear badge is hardly viable for the TTshop but they want to help by establishing goodwill and potentially gaining longer term customers.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: dan_apps on 27 August 2008, 00:04
thanks for the hard work thus far RR, based on those costs i will probably just go with the front i think, the missus will kill me i go for the back aswell (supposed to be going on holiday in a few weeks!) will have a definate for you when the buy back for the cores is sorted

cheers from everyone!
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 27 August 2008, 00:20
1. Hurdy - F & R

Still interested, but would like to know what the core buy back prices are.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 00:21
I'll start off the new list. Remember this isn't a committal yet.
Please copy and paste and add your name etc as appropriate.
I'll post the buy-back prices as soon as I know.

1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Manu_R32 on 27 August 2008, 02:21
1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
3. Manu - F & R

Hopefully by the time this group buy is sorted il be living in Cardiff so no worries about UK Shipping Only
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 02:30
Hopefully by the time this group buy is sorted il be living in Cardiff so no worries about UK Shipping Only

....They can ship anywhere but it costs extra if outside UK mainland.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 27 August 2008, 06:42
As that Scottish tosser on dragons den would say ..(hey I can say it, ok...I am Scottish myself  :grin:) .... "I'll tell you where I am on this, ..I'm out"  :smiley:

Thanks RR for all your efforts, I have too many other mods I would prefer to put my money into just now, Revo, Sportline springs, forge DV, ferodo front pads or similar...also have to get my bonnet resprayed  :cry: Have about a grand to fork out at the moment if I want to keep tinkering.

Still would like a black front badge though...doesn't have to be CF, is ebay the place? anyone?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Pirelli_P on 27 August 2008, 09:00
Golly! I too think ill have to pass on the badges at that cost! Thanks RR for the effort but I think ill just have to spray my own badges black and settle with that unless i win the lottery! lol
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 09:15
thanks for the effort robin but im out aswell, think il just paint my rear one now.  :smiley:

@ nogolfclubs, the black ones are available on ebay.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 10:40
....Sorry about the costs guys. Carbonfibre was never going to be cheap and the cost levels are similar to what I paid for mine taking into account the likely buy-back prices.

Joe - Did you get anywhere with your attempts with Carbon Dynamics to get a better price on the carbon ones?

LATEST NEWS:

- TTS have just been on the phone to me and are trying to get the costs further reduced.

- They are also wanting to do a test shipment and therefore may then have some stock in the future.

- Their supplier has found that buying back cores simply isn't viable, but would be able to give a How-To remove your rear badges. TTS are looking into whether they can help by buying back a few cores but it obviously has to be cost viable.

Sorry it's all a bit complicated but it's a combination of factors and a first run. I'll naturally keep you posted :smiley: Justin at TTS is trying very hard to accomodate us as anyone who has already met him would realise.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 10:50
ive been intouch with them about 3 or 4 times. this was one email :

Hello Joe

 We were wondering where all the traffic from the UK was coming from.

We have had a lot of interest from the UK in the last 3 months.

The rear emblem on the MKV must be sent to us.The dealer charges $200 for the core and it  includes the whole mechanism.Also at the same time you could send the front emblem with the rear emblem the front factory VW emblem is $35.

I will get you a price on 20 front and 20 rear emblems.

Regards


then got this email:

Hello Joe
 
Sorry for the delay.
Our Euro dealer the TT shop.Has a group buy going on with the front and rear emblems for the MKV right now.We are working with them exclusively.We are going to do a great price on these.Also they will have a full product line in stock for everyone to see the quality of our products in person.
 
Any questions feel free to contact us anytime or the TTshop
 
Regards


so its not looking good from them either. I think im just going to get the rear painted as theres no way id pay over 300 for 2 vw badges, no matter how cool or good quality. its nearly the price of a millteck cat back.  :huh:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 27 August 2008, 11:03
so its not looking good from them either. I think im just going to get the rear painted as theres no way id pay over 300 for 2 vw badges, no matter how cool or good quality. its nearly the price of a millteck cat back.  :huh:

That exactly what I was thinking.  :smiley:

What paint did you use for the front badge on your's Joe?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 11:13
so its not looking good from them either. I think im just going to get the rear painted as theres no way id pay over 300 for 2 vw badges, no matter how cool or good quality. its nearly the price of a millteck cat back.  :huh:

That exactly what I was thinking.  :smiley:

What paint did you use for the front badge on your's Joe?

i didnt, i got it from ebay. The guy used to supply them on ebay professionally sprayed and baked 3 times. his ebay user id is: tom_barker123

drop him an email and see if he still does them  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 13:09
ive been intouch with them about 3 or 4 times. this was one email :

Hello Joe

 We were wondering where all the traffic from the UK was coming from.

We have had a lot of interest from the UK in the last 3 months.

The rear emblem on the MKV must be sent to us.The dealer charges $200 for the core and it  includes the whole mechanism.Also at the same time you could send the front emblem with the rear emblem the front factory VW emblem is $35.

I will get you a price on 20 front and 20 rear emblems.

Regards


then got this email:

Hello Joe
 
Sorry for the delay.
Our Euro dealer the TT shop.Has a group buy going on with the front and rear emblems for the MKV right now.We are working with them exclusively.We are going to do a great price on these.Also they will have a full product line in stock for everyone to see the quality of our products in person.
 
Any questions feel free to contact us anytime or the TTshop
 
Regards


so its not looking good from them either. I think im just going to get the rear painted as theres no way id pay over 300 for 2 vw badges, no matter how cool or good quality. its nearly the price of a millteck cat back.  :huh:

....Thanks for posting that info, Joe :smiley:

You can see how the costs of the stock cores plus shipping and taxes add so much to the final prices.

Interesting though how so many got hot for those carbon VW badges but now are put off by the cost, but I can understand the priorities - I've already got my Milltek etc. Real carbonfibre is invariably relatively expensive.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 14:19
no worries robin  :smiley:

"Real carbonfibre is invariably relatively expensive." but it can be sorced cheaply, like my grill 70quid, and OSIR wing mirror covers i found for 150, so i believe that if i hang on and dont take the plundge then in time i will find them cheaper.  :smiley: :smiley: exhaust is a must thow  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: lsc on 27 August 2008, 15:39
If anyone is interested, here are some links to a German ebay shop selling GTi front and rear badges in gloss black. I have seen some Japanese GTi's with matt black badges as well which would also be worth looking into but haven't found any on ebay yet.

Front badge €42.90+€8.9delivery (£41.50)
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Zeichen-Emblem-SCHWARZ-Golf-5-V-GTI-R32-GT-EOS-Polo_W0QQitemZ150280327168QQcmdZViewItem%3Fhash%3Ditem150280327168%26_trkparms%3D72%253A968%257C39%253A1%257C66%253A2%257C65%253A12%257C240%253A1318%26_trksid%3Dp3286.c0.m14&usg=ALkJrhgKf2e8ai7JVa1O8zZZTLdyjmrn4A

Rear badge €11.90+€3.5del (£12.30)
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Emblem-Heck-in-schwarz-Golf-GTI-Lupo-etc-Original_W0QQitemZ160136262704QQihZ006QQcategoryZ73074QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262&usg=ALkJrhgLaQNRpX-6ho2GrHX3NtNxUXfP5g
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 15:40
....Agreed, Joe :cool:. You were very lucky I think to have sourced those OSIR wing mirrors on eBay. I hope for the sake of others that cheap fake ones don't appear. You won't regret the Milltek - You going for Resonated or Non-Resonated?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 15:42
If anyone is interested, here are some links to a German ebay shop selling GTi front and rear badges in gloss black. I have seen some Japanese GTi's with matt black badges as well which would also be worth looking into but haven't found any on ebay yet.



....Gloss black would match the stock glossy black nosepiece very well :smiley: - Looks better than matt black imo.

Check the exact size though - VW badge sizes vary between models.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 15:42
non res, but only the cat back at the moment, but it will be the R32 style as i have the r32 bumper  :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 15:43
If anyone is interested, here are some links to a German ebay shop selling GTi front and rear badges in gloss black. I have seen some Japanese GTi's with matt black badges as well which would also be worth looking into but haven't found any on ebay yet.



....Gloss black would match the stock glossy black nosepiece very well :smiley: - Look better than matt black imo.

gloss black would look good on any car except a black one (imo)  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 15:57
If anyone is interested, here are some links to a German ebay shop selling GTi front and rear badges in gloss black. I have seen some Japanese GTi's with matt black badges as well which would also be worth looking into but haven't found any on ebay yet.



....Gloss black would match the stock glossy black nosepiece very well :smiley: - Look better than matt black imo.


gloss black would look good on any car except a black one (imo)  :smiley:

....And you've got the carbonfibre nosepiece anyway.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 27 August 2008, 15:59
If anyone is interested, here are some links to a German ebay shop selling GTi front and rear badges in gloss black. I have seen some Japanese GTi's with matt black badges as well which would also be worth looking into but haven't found any on ebay yet.



....Gloss black would match the stock glossy black nosepiece very well :smiley: - Look better than matt black imo.


gloss black would look good on any car except a black one (imo)  :smiley:

....And you've got the carbonfibre nosepiece anyway.

oh yea  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 27 August 2008, 20:06
Soo....forgive me for going slightly off the topic of the GB for the CF badges...but that German dude on  ebay..does the 42.90Eu front black badge just use the same clips as the OEM chrome one? Do they simply just pop off and you pop the new one in place?

I was surprised to see that the rear one is much cheaper, is the German ebay dudes rear badge just a stick on over the original boot handle or does it replace the existing I wonder?

I notice you pay a 7EU premium for the GTI/R32 version...guess that gets you the different sized one that RR was alerting us to.

I think the black looks cool, I'm seriously considering the front one now. Although wondering if a simple paint jobby might also do the trick just as well.... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2008, 21:18
....I'm sure that the badges are replacements and not stick-ons. I've heard it's tricky to remove them but there's a 'How To' - I'm trying to access it for posting.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 27 August 2008, 21:27
Soo....forgive me for going slightly off the topic of the GB for the CF badges...but that German dude on  ebay..does the 42.90Eu front black badge just use the same clips as the OEM chrome one? Do they simply just pop off and you pop the new one in place?

I was surprised to see that the rear one is much cheaper, is the German ebay dudes rear badge just a stick on over the original boot handle or does it replace the existing I wonder?

I notice you pay a 7EU premium for the GTI/R32 version...guess that gets you the different sized one that RR was alerting us to.

I think the black looks cool, I'm seriously considering the front one now. Although wondering if a simple paint jobby might also do the trick just as well.... :rolleyes:

It looks like the front one includes the chrome top and core and the rear is just the raised chrome piece, that why i think there is a big difference in price.

They are pretty easy to paint, I have just done mine, sanded them down then two coats plastic primer, a few coats of matte black and then two layers of clear coat.

The front is easy to get the whole badge off (either unclip from the back and twist, or if your feeling brave just twist anti-clockwise) but it's a bit of a delicate operation to slow prise off the chrome piece.

The rear can be removed by working a plastic card or similar between the chrome piece and lock mech and then start to unclip it all the way around.

HTH
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 28 August 2008, 08:44
Hello

My name is Charles and i am the owner of Carbon Dynamics located in Arizona USA.
I found out about this Forum a few days ago and i am looking forward to working with the TTshop to get this
group buy organized so you all will have the front and rear emblems on your MKV that you have been waiting for.
The front and rear VW emblems on the MKV are the most popular products we sell.
Please wait a few days before you paint your emblems.
I will do my best to get these to you in a timely fashion and a good value.
I want you all to see the quality of our carbon fiber products.
I believe the intrest in our products from the UK was from a customer buying the MKV emblems from one of our USA dealers.
In the last month we have had a lot of hits on our website from the UK and tons of emails.
I am glad to see the intrest in our products from Europe.I have been wanting to push our products toward the euro market and with
the TTshop this is possible.We have sold many products to Europe in the past Nine years.But not to the extent i have wanted.
I will do my best to help you and keep in contact daily with you and the TTshop to make this as smooth as possible.
Many of you may have not heard of Carbon Dynamics but we have been doing Porsche and VW
Carbon Fiber products for nine years and as our website states we do not cut corners.
We have been in Excellence magazine and luxury and exotics for our porsche line of products and in Performance VW and euro tuner a few times for VW's.
Now on to the business at hand!
The front emblem can be purchased from VW for $35 USA.The problem with the rear emblem is VW sells the whole mechanism for $175 USA.
I wish they sold just the rear emblem but they dont.I can get the Jetta Rear emblem for $20 US.If you have a Jetta or know someone with one we can do the emblems
for the Jetta.What people do in the USA is they take off the rear emblem and send it to us to get the carbon work done.A few have bought the whole mecanism for $175 USA.
You can take off your rear emblem to get the work done.
I wish there was another way but there is not.
Also we are working Exclusively with the TTshop this makes it much eaiser for you and us at Carbon Dynamics.
The TTshop will also have a nice selection of parts in stock so you can get a look at the quality of our products in person.
Many have asked how to take off the rear emblem and it is not very hard.

Using a Credit card or a flat plastic card slip the card into the gap between the logo and the hatch release(where the arrows are pointing) and work it around untill it comes free.
The emblem is held on buy a series of small clips.Also below the emblem is a round plastic disk that is doubleside taped on.
Some people slide the plastic card below the emblem and the doublesided tape piece comes off with the emblem.
This is ok also so dont worry if yours comes off with the black disk.
I have inclosed a picture(not mine found it on the Net) of where you slide the plastic card to remove the rear emblem.

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/Rearemblemremoval.jpg?t=1219908708)



Thank you for your time and we will get this group going in the right direction.
My goal is to make you happy and enjoy our products on your MKV.
I will do everything in my power to get these products to you.
I own a MKV GTI and of course have these emblems on my car and they look amazing!

Also here is a couple of pics of some Porsche Products we offer

Carbon Dynamics GT3 Seat Pieces
(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/gt3seats.jpg?t=1219908850)

Carbon Dynamics Cayenne Engine Bay
(Pitcure altered for Copyrights from one of our Porsche dealers)
(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/IMG_02361.jpg?t=1219910103)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 28 August 2008, 09:10
hey charles, welcome to the forum, i found your site when i asked oempl.us where to get the vw badges from and they pointed me in your direction. unfortunatly the badges are a little out of my price range but look very very  :cool: and would love them on my golf  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 28 August 2008, 09:21
hey charles, welcome to the forum, i found your site when i asked oempl.us where to get the vw badges from and they pointed me in your direction. unfortunatly the badges are a little out of my price range but look very very  :cool: and would love them on my golf  :smiley:

Hello Joe

Thank you!!

Carbon Dynamics and the TT shop are working together to make this work.
The weak US dollar should work in your favor i am hoping.
I am sure we will work something out.
stay tuned! :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Pirelli_P on 28 August 2008, 09:29
In light of the new info from Charles, I am still interested and will make a final final decision, once prices/arrangements have been finalised with the TTshop so I can make my decision!
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 28 August 2008, 09:30
Hi Charles,

I'm the guy who introduced TTshop to you. I'm also the UK customer who bought your badges via oempl.us - I bought the very last rear badge!

Justin has just emailed me with the latest prices which, between you, you are able to offer as viable.

Regarding the quality of your badges, I have both front and rear ones on my car and have had for a while - Some people here will have seen them in the UK and can also vouch for their high quality.

TTshop's Justin writes : -

"If we can get 20 fronts and 20 backs confirmed we can do the actual badge for:
£58.00 for each badge (front/rear) however these cannot be done without the core.
The front core to buy is £29.00

If we could get 20 rear cores from customers, Carbon dynamics could get the badges done within a week/week and a half and supply a how to remove the core guide which he said is straight forward. So we would need people to commit with deposits and then once there is 20 we can get them to send their cores in.
Alternatively they can buy a new rear core as previously discussed.

The £58 a badge price is only if we get 40 done at once.

The costings are delivered to the customers door, however there will be a shipping charge for anyone sending cores to the States by us, this charge is dependant on the total being sent."


So, we better start what will hopefully be a final list.

[I'm out most of this morning - I've got some driving to do :cool:]
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 28 August 2008, 09:47
Here are a few pictures.
Also one of the pictures is from a GTI in the UK.
We also make the grills and full interior trim pieces for the MKV these are Not a glue on or tape on piece.
These pieces look and fit perfect just like factory.
No gluing or worring about the pieces falling off.

Carbon Dynamics Carbon Grill,Emblem,Mirrors
(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/CarbonGrill3.jpg?t=1219912760)

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/NewWheelz_3.jpg?t=1219912789)

Carbon Dynamics Rear MKV Emblem

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/RED_rear_20June08.jpg?t=1219912916)

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/RED_TSN_VW_rearCF.jpg?t=1219912939)

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/UnitedGrayrearemblem.jpg?t=1219912971)

Carbon Dynamics MKV Center Dash and trim

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/MKVcentercarbon.jpg?t=1219913029)

(http://i508.photobucket.com/albums/s323/vw4sport/MKVCenter.jpg?t=1219913061)

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 28 August 2008, 09:53
Hi Charles,

I'm the guy who introduced TTshop to you. I'm also the UK customer who bought your badges via oempl.us - I bought the very last rear badge!


Hello
Robin

It has been awhile since we talked.
I am glad you like your emblems.
We take pride in our work and use only the highest quality resin,Carbon fiber,Clear.
I want to thank you for going out of your way to get this going.
The pictures i have up are probably your car.
Again thank you for all that you have done.And i am sorry i was not in here sooner.

Charles@CarbonDynamics


Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 28 August 2008, 11:27
Hi Charles, thanks for the info, your products do look first class :cool:

RedRobin, Also thanks again for your input to this GB.  :smiley:

Could you answer a couple of questions so we can all be clear as to whats involved and the full costs etc?

With the rear badge what parts makes up the core, is it the whole rear lock mech or the black disc that the badge sits on top of?

Also are there any issue using the car/accessing the boot without the core while the badges are being produced?

With the front's are the options to either supply the core and pay the shipping to the US via the TTShop or purchase a new core @ £29?


Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 28 August 2008, 15:01
....To answer your quezzies, SteveP : -

- Rear: Taking care not to bend the core (important), remove stock VW badge which will leave black disc core which keeps your boot lock functional.

- Front: Either add £29 to recieve CF badge already bonded to core, or just send core.

What's important to get the GB discount and stop the shipping costs etc racking up, is to get your front cores into TTshop all within a day or two of each other - We can coordinate that from this thread further down the line.

Not yet, but TTshop will want a £30 deposit for each order (irrespective of just front or just rear).

Again, sorry it's not that simple, but I expect everyone can now see what's involved! We're all trying to achieve a Win-Win where you get some cool carbonfibre VW badges at a special price and the manufacturer and distributor still make a profit.

:afro: HTH
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 29 August 2008, 11:10
....

1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
3. Manu - F & R

....
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Pirelli_P on 29 August 2008, 11:40
 :embarassed:

I seem to be a little confused as to exactly whats involved / price, despite RR's extensive explanations, sorrrry!

Is this correct:

- Both a front and back badge is £58 each, however, one needs to supply the "core" from the our car. Therefore I could either send in my front badge myself or buy a new one for £29.

This is where I am a bit confused. What about the rear? Can I just buy a rear badge for £29 as well, or is that where I would need to buy the whole mechanism, because I haven't even got my car yet! lol How much is that?

So a total price would be:

£116 (x2 badges F/R)
£29 (for a new front badge)
£? (for a new rear badge)

Does that make any sense, please could someone enlighten me!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 29 August 2008, 11:49
i dont even know what the core is  :embarassed: :embarassed:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 29 August 2008, 16:26
either nobody else knows what a core is or i smell  :embarassed: :tongue:

nearly 5 hours gone by  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Rhyso on 29 August 2008, 16:27
i dont even know what the core is  :embarassed: :embarassed:

isn't the core the original badge  :huh:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 29 August 2008, 16:33
or is it the black bit that the badge sits on?? so if the badge is the "core" then why do they need the original badge??
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 29 August 2008, 16:38
or is it the black bit that the badge sits on?? so if the badge is the "core" then why do they need the original badge??

I agree for the front, it sounds like the black plastic bit the chrome badge clips onto (the part which fit's into the grill).

For the rear I still haven't got a clue what the core refers to.

I presume they need the "core" to bond the new badge onto as they don't just clip into place in the same way as the original chrome one.

It would be good if Charles from CarbonDynamics could post some pics to clear this one us.

 
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 29 August 2008, 16:45
ive just realised that this is a bit of a cr@p group buy  :huh: :huh:

ive been on there site and they have these badges for 160$ with core, which is about 80 quid (with core)

this group but works out to be £58 for the badge then £29 for core so thats £87......7 quid shipping???? WTF????

please would somebody find robin to explain as i believe i may have got this wrong (i hope)  :undecided: :huh:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 29 August 2008, 16:49
and i STILL dont even know what a core is  :sad:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 29 August 2008, 17:13
....Hang on guys! I've been out (I do go out sometimes)....Literally just returned.....Cut me a little slack and I'll try and help. :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 29 August 2008, 17:34
....Okay,

FRONT:

The stock front badge consists of a plastic core and a bonded silver VW emblem which can't be separated.

To replace the whole with a CF one, pay £58 and send TTshop your stock one. Stock ones (cores) are needed for CF covering. OR keep your stock one and pay £29 extra.


REAR:

The stock rear assembly consists of a locking mechanism and a removable siver VW emblem.

You won't want to remove the whole lock unit and be without it, so very carefully remove the VW emblem without bending it and send to TTshop. It will cost you £58 to replace it with a carbon one.


So,

Front costs either £58 or £58+£29=£87

Rear costs £58

Front+Rear costs either£116 or £116+£29=£145

All costs include shipping and taxes, providing we can coordinate all the returnables to CarbonDynamics via TTshop in one shipping.

Does this make it any more clear?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 29 August 2008, 19:43
 £116 for the front and rears or a max of £145 without having to return the cores.

But you need an order of 40 badges in total (any mix of front and rear).

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: SteveP on 30 August 2008, 21:28
....

1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
3. Manu - F & R
4. SteveP - F & R

....
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: bacillus on 30 August 2008, 22:42
£116 for the front and rears or a max of £145 without having to return the cores.

But you need an order of 40 badges in total (any mix of front and rear).


RR your statement on the maximum cost of £145 without having to return the cores has me a little confused since according to Charles from CarbonDynamics you must supply the rear core as VW doesn't supply the core seperately.

Could you clarify?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 31 August 2008, 00:39
£116 for the front and rears or a max of £145 without having to return the cores.

But you need an order of 40 badges in total (any mix of front and rear).


RR your statement on the maximum cost of £145 without having to return the cores has me a little confused since according to Charles from CarbonDynamics you must supply the rear core as VW doesn't supply the core seperately.

Could you clarify?

....Sorry not to be clear. Yes you need to send TTshop the rear 'core' - The badge not the whole lock mechanism. You''l be running around with a totally functional boot lock but just a plain black plate until the carbon badge comes back to you.

You don't have to send TTshop the front 'core' (which is the whole silver VW badge) but if you don't you'll have to pay £29 for Charles to buy one to bond carbon onto for his return to you via TTshop.

Is that easier to understand?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Greenouse on 31 August 2008, 18:42
1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
3. Manu - F & R
4. SteveP - F & R
5. Greenouse - F & R
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: bacillus on 31 August 2008, 19:09
RR one final question regarding the rear badge or should I should ask Charles?

There were two flavours of rear badge, one that was smooth (and prone to worming) and the other with raised VW logo.

Does the type of badge you send in affect the look of the final CF product you receive?
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 31 August 2008, 19:42
RR one final question regarding the rear badge or should I should ask Charles?

There were two flavours of rear badge, one that was smooth (and prone to worming) and the other with raised VW logo.

Does the type of badge you send in affect the look of the final CF product you receive?

....That's a good question but one I'm sure which won't be a problem. I'll shoot Charles off an email tonight.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 01 September 2008, 05:52
i dont even know what the core is  :embarassed: :embarassed:

A core is the Factory VW emblem piece.The front emblem is made out of two pieces a silver plastic piece and a black backing(holder)plastic piece.
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i dont even know what the core is  :embarassed: :embarassed:

isn't the core the original badge  :huh:

That is correct the core is the factory VW piece

or is it the black bit that the badge sits on?? so if the badge is the "core" then why do they need the original badge??

I agree for the front, it sounds like the black plastic bit the chrome badge clips onto (the part which fit's into the grill).

For the rear I still haven't got a clue what the core refers to.

I presume they need the "core" to bond the new badge onto as they don't just clip into place in the same way as the original chrome one.

It would be good if Charles from CarbonDynamics could post some pics to clear this one us.

 

The rear core is the same as the front but the rear chrome piece is all i need Also on the front emblem the chrome part is all i need but you can send
the full front emblem and i can put the two piece back together.Once i have your emblem i sand it and apply the carbon fiber and it looks just like factory but it is carbon fiber.
NO tape or glue needed   it is a permanent piece after the carbon is applied.

Also if you have problems taking off the rear emblem and scratch it or bend a edge it is OK.(This wont happen when removing it) but if you do somehow i can fix it for free so dont worry about taking off the rear emblem.
Everything will be fine if you use the plastic card.I was probably the first one to take this off back on Feb of 2006 and yes i was scared because i was not sure if it came off.But it did and everything was fine.
So dont pass up this group buy because you are worried about taking off the rear emblem!


Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 01 September 2008, 06:03
RR one final question regarding the rear badge or should I should ask Charles?

There were two flavours of rear badge, one that was smooth (and prone to worming) and the other with raised VW logo.

Does the type of badge you send in affect the look of the final CF product you receive?

Hello

I just found out on a few early models that the rear emblem is a metal flat logo.This is very RARE.If you have the rear emblem that does not have raised lettering
You can NOT do this in Carbon Fiber.I have not seen this in person but i was told a small amount had a sticker instead of a raised plastic VW logo.
This has to be very limited as VW must have ran out of rear vw emblems and used a sticker on a few MKV GTI's.
If you look at your car you will know the change by looking at it.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 01 September 2008, 06:06
Sorry for not posting on here for a few days.
Any questions keep asking them and i wll answer them. :smiley:
I also of notification on now! :cool:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 01 September 2008, 09:14
RR one final question regarding the rear badge or should I should ask Charles?

There were two flavours of rear badge, one that was smooth (and prone to worming) and the other with raised VW logo.

Does the type of badge you send in affect the look of the final CF product you receive?

Hello

I just found out on a few early models that the rear emblem was a sticker.This is very RARE.If you have the rear emblem that does not have raised lettering
You can NOT do this in Carbon Fiber.I have not seen this in person but i was told a small amount had a sticker instead of a raised plastic VW logo.
This has to be very limited as VW must have ran out of rear vw emblems and used a sticker on a few MKV GTI's.
If you look at your car you will know the change by looking at it.

its not a sticker, its a more of a metal plate in a round circle, can almost make it out in this pic

(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd153/joesgti/Picture005-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 01 September 2008, 10:22
....Hey Charles,

I don't think any of us here have a 'sticker' type of rear badge. Looking at the rear emblem, on some the silver VW letters are more raised from the matt black inbetween the letters than others which are only slightly raised. Hope that makes sense but I personally don't have a pic (I think! I'll have a hunt on the internet).

:afro:

This is not the greatest pic but a huge enlargement of a 'shallow' less raised VW lettering version. Anyone else got pics or can post one of either 'shallow' or 'raised' versions please?

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/rearVWstock.jpg)

Having just had a chat with TTS about this, we reckon it won't make much difference to Charles because he probably makes each one by hand, but we'll wait and see what he says.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 September 2008, 14:57
OK, the orginal "flat" rear core was part no: 3C5 827 469 C ULM.  This was dropped end of Sept 2007, and superceeded by 3C5 827 469 D ULM.  Those dates & part numbers are for dealer supplied parts though, so factory fitted parts may have different dates.  Furthermore, if anyone has had the early type rear badge replaced, under warranty or otherwise, for the worming, then you will automatically get the latest version.

For the UK, the rear core assembly is around £76 plus VAT.  Another option would be to visit a scrappy and get the rear core from a bent Golf !!!  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: bacillus on 01 September 2008, 19:38
I tried quite a few scrap yards around here but without success so far.   :sad:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 01 September 2008, 19:45
I tried quite a few scrap yards around here but without success so far.   :sad:

....Yes, but for rear or front? or both? And anyway you don't need to in order to get the CF versions, unless you can't stand the idea of running around for a short while being badgeless.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 01 September 2008, 19:47
For the UK, the rear core assembly is around £76 plus VAT.

....That's for the whole lock mechanism - No-one needs to buy that component in this group buy.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 September 2008, 20:29
For the UK, the rear core assembly is around £76 plus VAT.

....That's for the whole lock mechanism - No-one needs to buy that component in this group buy.

Yes, I know.  But like you said in a previous post, if someone doesn't want to run around for a fortnight with the badge cover missing, or if heaven forbid someone accidentally fcuks up the entire mechanism when trying to just remove the cover - then I have just posted a little more info.

Saying all that - if even just a few of us could manage to get hold of a couple of spares, from scrappies, then whilst not helping this particular GB - may well help the TTshop, as a holding "stock" for reluctant future individuals.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 01 September 2008, 20:47
....Good thinking, TT :afro:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 01 September 2008, 20:56
These are exactly the pics we need in this thread - Big Thanks to 182_blue :smiley:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/bootbadge91e73a70.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/bootbadgeb96c695c.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 September 2008, 23:57
These are exactly the pics we need in this thread - Big Thanks to 182_blue :smiley:

Yup, good find.


Mine, a 2007 model year, built 13 June 2006 came with the first one (but didn't have that funny foot in it  :tongue:), and was replaced sometime in 2007 under warranty for the lower one.
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/bootbadge91e73a70.jpg)

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b361/flogitg/bootbadgeb96c695c.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 02 September 2008, 02:52
RR one final question regarding the rear badge or should I should ask Charles?

There were two flavours of rear badge, one that was smooth (and prone to worming) and the other with raised VW logo.

Does the type of badge you send in affect the look of the final CF product you receive?

Hello

I just found out on a few early models that the rear emblem was a sticker.This is very RARE.If you have the rear emblem that does not have raised lettering
You can NOT do this in Carbon Fiber.I have not seen this in person but i was told a small amount had a sticker instead of a raised plastic VW logo.
This has to be very limited as VW must have ran out of rear vw emblems and used a sticker on a few MKV GTI's.
If you look at your car you will know the change by looking at it.

its not a sticker, its a more of a metal plate in a round circle, can almost make it out in this pic

(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd153/joesgti/Picture005-6.jpg)



My fault it is not a sticker.

I have never seen this in person.It does look metal

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 02 September 2008, 09:13
....Charles - Is it safe for everyone to assume that it doesn't matter which type (of the 2 photographed here) of rear VW badge they have? - In other words that you can apply carbonfibre to either type.
 
:smiley:

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 02 September 2008, 18:36
....Charles - Is it safe for everyone to assume that it doesn't matter which type (of the 2 photographed here) of rear VW badge they have? - In other words that you can apply carbonfibre to either type.
 
:smiley:



The flat metal rear VW emblem can NOT be done in carbon fiber.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: CarbonDynamics on 02 September 2008, 18:38
Thank you (182_blue) for these pictures!

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 02 September 2008, 20:36
Thankfully my flat metal one is now getting replaced under warranty! woo hooo, which means...once I can find some money down the sofa, can replace it with a C/F one! :D
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 09 September 2008, 09:22
nobody bothering with this any more, im out as price was too much (and saving hard  :laugh:)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 09 September 2008, 11:54
nobody bothering with this any more, im out as price was too much (and saving hard  :laugh:)

Me too.  On reflection, I think I'll get much better enjoyment by feeding the little flap on the rear right quarter panel with Tesco99, than any CF badge can give me!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 09 September 2008, 12:08
nobody bothering with this any more, im out as price was too much (and saving hard  :laugh:)

Me too.  On reflection, I think I'll get much better enjoyment by feeding the little flap on the rear right quarter panel with Tesco99, than any CF badge can give me!  :smiley:

Still in here! :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 09 September 2008, 14:56
....To help things along and try to get the numbers up enough for a GB, I'll PM those who were on the earlier list of 20 or so.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: rugbymad on 09 September 2008, 22:38
Hi folks
 spoke to my mate who runs lambodooorkits.co.uk , he does custom cf for anything, i told him loads of people on this forum were intrested, i think he will be posting soon to see what intrest there is, otherwise contact him via his website. i also quite fancy cf for front and back badge.

steph
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 09 September 2008, 23:05
....

1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
3. Manu - F & R
4. SteveP - F & R
5. Greenouse - F & R
6. rugbymad - F & R
7. Merlinman - F
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 10 September 2008, 09:27
Hi folks
 spoke to my mate who runs lambodooorkits.co.uk , he does custom cf for anything, i told him loads of people on this forum were intrested, i think he will be posting soon to see what intrest there is, otherwise contact him via his website. i also quite fancy cf for front and back badge.

steph

cool, keep us updated  :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 10 September 2008, 10:17
Hi folks
 spoke to my mate who runs lambodooorkits.co.uk , he does custom cf for anything, i told him loads of people on this forum were intrested, i think he will be posting soon to see what intrest there is, otherwise contact him via his website. i also quite fancy cf for front and back badge.

steph

cool, keep us updated  :wink:

....But please do so in a new thread as this is a sticky for a specific subject. Thanks.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 10 September 2008, 12:18
^^yes robin, its a subject for carbon badges, its a free forum and the group will benefit if the badges are cheaper from elsewhere,  :huh: your not a mod and you didnt even start the thred!!!??  so i will not post where and when you tell me  :huh:

just because you are on close terms with the TT shop doesnt mean the rest of us are, and im sure if these badges can be sorced from elsewhere for cheaper then the rest of the foum will be glad to here it, as the ones the TT shop are supplying are near enough the same price as the ones on carbondynamics web site so there is barely any discount!!
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 10 September 2008, 12:40
jeez... I disappear for a couple of days and TT is fighting with plonkers on the MKVI community, and then people are having a dig a RR..all without the influence of Mr Crabster.

Come on guys stop eating raw steak mince and lets all be pals again...lol..I am going for a lie down, being such a sensitive soul and all that :D

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 10 September 2008, 13:13
^^yes robin, its a subject for carbon badges, its a free forum and the group will benefit if the badges are cheaper from elsewhere,  :huh: your not a mod and you didnt even start the thred!!!??  so i will not post where and when you tell me  :huh:

just because you are on close terms with the TT shop doesnt mean the rest of us are, and im sure if these badges can be sorced from elsewhere for cheaper then the rest of the foum will be glad to here it, as the ones the TT shop are supplying are near enough the same price as the ones on carbondynamics web site so there is barely any discount!!

....You have either totally misinterpreted my post or are totally over-reacting, Joe.

Goodness knows how tedious it is trying to help everyone out (especially as I don't need to - I've already got my CF badges! And I'm not on commission) - There's 22 fecking pages of it! So all I was politely suggesting is that your friend would be doing everyone and himself a favour by starting a new thread. Perhaps it's a good job for you my friend that I'm not a Moderator on this occasion.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 10 September 2008, 13:32
soz robin, maybe i was abit harsh, just in a sh!t mood!!! battery ran out on the gti this morning and have now lost the keys to the range rover, so had to walk to work  :sad: also central heating is on full and its boiling outside and all the windows are locked with no keys about, so cant even open them, and to top it all off, my phones run out of battery  :sad:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 10 September 2008, 14:36
....No problem, Joe - We all go through it from time to time. It'll all sort out for you soon, mate :afro: :cool: :afro:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: rugbymad on 12 September 2008, 15:00
HI FOLKS
i text my mate today and gave him web addy, i'm sure he'll post here soon, but you can contact him via his web site www.lambodoorkits.co.uk
or his web mobile number 01334848469/ or 07795245306. just say you saw my post on the forum .he knows me as steph...
i will be out of country for 4 monts soon so i am unable to run with this otherwise i would have done it no problem..


steph
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 September 2008, 15:26

....I'm afraid that I think those 'lambo' door kits are horrible! :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: - Utterly tasteless! Just a pointless gimmick for Lambo wannabe's.
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 12 September 2008, 15:56

....I'm afraid that I think those 'lambo' door kits are horrible! :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: - Utterly tasteless! Just a pointless gimmick for Lambo wannabe's.

dont diss the guy for making a living robin :sad: etto  :smiley:

edit: and too be fair, id probs have them on my car  :embarassed: :embarassed: but the type that also allow the door to be opend normally aswell, so its abit of a novilty when getting out of my car at shows.......and asda  :grin: :grin:

the guy who works at awesome gti has them, also gaz had that car for a day or two and he seemd to like the attention  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 September 2008, 16:47

....I was only expressing my opinion about lambo doors, not dissing anyone - I don't like them on Awesome's GTI either and I've told them to their face and some of them agree that it's just a gimmick.

Agreed - ETTO :smiley:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: joesgti on 12 September 2008, 16:51

....I was only expressing my opinion about lambo doors, not dissing anyone - I don't like them on Awesome's GTI either and I've told them to their face and some of them agree that it's just a gimmick.

Agreed - ETTO :smiley:

you must admit thow that they do get a crowd  :cool: even thow chavvy
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 12 September 2008, 17:03
you must admit thow that they do get a crowd  :cool: even thow chavvy

....Certainly! A loooong time ago a friend in London had a gull-wing Merc and he said he pulled more girls with that car than in the rest of his life!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0xPnZbi2QtQ/RnWwXuvt43I/AAAAAAAAB8c/BcRcqHtJvNc/s1600/pismo_classic_1954_1957_mercedes_300sl_gullwing_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Hurdy on 12 September 2008, 19:21
TOPIC!! :wink:
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: 182_blue on 15 September 2008, 12:14
Bump for RR
Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 15 September 2008, 12:17
Bump for RR

....Thanks, blue - Appreciated! :afro:

Trouble is that now I'm obliged to do something about it!!
Title: Carbonfibre VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: RedRobin on 19 September 2008, 08:54

IN ORDER TO PROGRESS THIS GROUP BUY, WE ARE SETTING A DEADLINE FOR SERIOUS INTENT TO BUY TO :

TUESDAY 30th SEPTEMBER

Please add your name and requirement if you are interested. We need more on the list for this as a group buy. Currently the list of those seriously wishing to buy is :

....

1. cookiemonster - F
2. Hurdy - F & R
3. Manu - F & R
4. SteveP - F & R
5. Greenouse - F & R
6. rugbymad - F & R
7. Merlinman - F

Title: Re: Black or C/F VW Badges..group buy?
Post by: Lambodoorkits on 21 September 2008, 23:42
Hi chaps, this is Terry from Lambodoorkits Ltd. Rugbymad mentioned us. We don`t only do lambo doors we make carbon fibre products also. Not in the Uk but in a well established factory in Asia. Here is an example of some products we have produced. We can make those badges no problem, just need a set to send off. Turn round time will be about 6 weeks and nowhere near the prices you have been quoted. I should think about £60 for the set with no import duties.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/bigboxy1/Carbondesigns/P9120667.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/bigboxy1/Carbondesigns/CDR33GTST2GS.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/bigboxy1/Carbondesigns/CDR33GTSTGP.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/bigboxy1/Carbondesigns/Volkswagon_golf_mk4_oem_carbon_b-1.jpg)