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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: dave7268 on 30 September 2017, 08:43
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Yupp, my car got stolen last night :cry:
Reckon thieves have been watching this one as we never heard a thing. They broke through the lean-to roof at the side of the house, broke the back door lock with ease (and we were told this was a high security lock - yeah right). Found the car keys in the front living room and also took a wallet. Exited the same way and helped themselves to the car which was on my driveway. Very well executed.
Thankfully we are all okay and what has been taken can be replaced but if anyone sees a Carbon Grey 5 door GTI with Silver BBS CK wheels, registration D5 PPJ in the area then give the Police a call :wink: Oh, it was stolen from Liverpool.
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What can you say ?
Not good news but glad you're all OK
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Gutted for you mate :sad:
Reading things like this is what put my wife off buying a GTI CS.
It's all very depressing knowing the type of people who live amongst us.
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Awful thing to happen, but thankfully you're able to tell the tale.
Hopefully these scumbags will come a cropper some time soon.
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Thanks peeps :smiley:
I know this type of theft is getting more and more prevalent and is very disheartening and doesn't encourage you to owning a decent car.
I am no so much bothered about the theft of the car as to the fact that they have broken into the house and invaded our privacy to get the car keys. Car can be replaced but the actual invasion of our sanctuary is more worryingsome. Just glad that I never heard anything otherwise there could've been a confrontation and who knows what would have happened then.
I have noticed that the support from you peeps on this forum is amazing at times like this.
You're the best :smiley:
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Bastards
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As soon as you see the title of these threads the heart sinks. Really sorry to read this. Very glad you and family are ok, but shaken no doubt. I hope these lowlifes get their comeuppance. And I hope the aftermath is not of great hassle to you.
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As soon as you see the title of these threads the heart sinks. Really sorry to read this. Very glad you and family are ok, but shaken no doubt. I hope these lowlifes get their comeuppance. And I hope the aftermath is not of great hassle to you.
Exactly what I thought when I read it.
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Glad you are all okay, how awful :sad:
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Scum. At least you're all okay.
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Very sorry to see your post, have some inkling of how you are feeling. Hope you get sorted without too much fuss.
My experience has made me a bit paranoid, only yesterday I was keeping a close eye on a leaflet deliverer who seemed to be checking out my security bollard, of course he might legitimately have been tying his shoelace. :smiley:
Frustrating thing for me is the not knowing how they got onto the car and yeah the fact they've have been in your house is the worst.
My insurance assessor was the best and his parting words were 'don't let the buggers stop you getting another'.
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glad you are ok, no garage then?
Start looking at all locks & beefing up actual toughness of doors etc.
get sacrificial snap (called anti snap) locks..ie even if they break the lock it still remains locked..
I got new euro cylinders (ABS) 3star versions from
http://www.barnsleylockandsafe.co.uk/
if worried about the door being weak then surface metal reinforcing plates.
http://www.kickstop.co.uk/
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Thanks for the comments everyone. As I mentioned you are great peeps on here and the encouragement is fantastic.
Nah, no garage and not even enough room on property to have one built.
Wasn't until now that I've realised how much hassle it is not to have a car after over 30 years of ownership and never once had a car stolen.
Being a 1 car family now poses difficulties in all aspects, from getting to/from work, doing the weekly shop, etc. You all know what I mean and then there is the increased financial side of matters..... if and when I decide to get another car I will have lost my full no claims discount and my insurance will go sky high :sad:
How they go through the back door was so easy.... The basically pried up the cylinder cover and pulled the cylinder lock out in one piece. No drilling or such and that meant the door handle could be used to open the door!
Quick question if anyone can help. Obviously I have notified the insurance company and I take it that they give it around 30 days for the car to be recovered before paying out. I also have GAP insurance covering me till 29th Oct this year. I take it if my car insurance is going to take over 30 days to get sorted out then I would not be able to claim on the GAP as it will have expired?? I am right in thinking this? If that is the case then this is gona hurt (financially) big time...
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Assuming you don't get the car back Dave7268 or,especially if it is written off (sorry) don't forget to tell your insurance company that you want to keep your plate, then it's just a case of waiting the year out till you get the opportunity to it back, went quicker than I thought.
I know it will be no comfort to you but I felt really guilty about the upset to the rest of my family that resulted from the damage caused by them not gaining access via a lock but by heaving a paving slab through the patio door onto a wooden floor.
By the way my insurance on renewal was not too bad, original insurer would not reinsure but still got similar quotes to previous years. Just made sure I got quotes that provided a courtesy car for a decent period if insured car stolen, not all policies have that.
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Really sorry to hear this, but glad you're all physically OK
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Complete bastards. Hope they catch them, glad everyone is ok.
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If the want the car bad enough they will try anything. This happened very close to me recently http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-birmingham-41414772/motorist-attacked-in-attempted-car-jacking-in-shirley
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Thanks for the advice Pixwix - never thought on about the cherished number plate - that's a pain in the butt too!
Just checked my insurance policy and I am not covered to get a courtesy car - damn
CSI have just been out but didn't manage to get any prints - too smudged and nothing was captured on the CCTV in the area (camera pointing in other direction).
If the want the car bad enough they will try anything.
This is so true - no matter how secure you can make a place they will get in if they really want to and don't care about the mayhem they leave in their wake.
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How they go through the back door was so easy.... The basically pried up the cylinder cover and pulled the cylinder lock out in one piece. No drilling or such and that meant the door handle could be used to open the door!
Yep plenty of vids on utube of this, standard euro cylinder locks 15secs to get it...You need anti-snap (sacrificial) locks...a fews secs to install & stop them from getting as the outer part rips off leaving a solid protected inner part:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYh371UjbEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkGfQ-UA2Ps
Oh & the ABS locks were updated a couple of years ago just after the key bump tools for these locks exploited a weakness (see utube vids), so they are even more secure & about the best 3star out there...
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Very sorry to hear this :-(
But please contact your GAP insurers now! The incident has occured within the policy lifespan so you should be covered.
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I hate to see these threads.
Sorry to hear about the break-in Dave, as others have said, thankfully nobody physically hurt but the aftermath isn't good mentally.
It'll all get sorted eventually and lets hope karma catches up with the perpetrators.
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Thanks again everyone for the comments offering support and advice - really is appreciated :smiley:
Still waiting for local plod to attend but did get a call from control saying that they were struggling to get someone out to take the details.
Locksmith has been out to fit a temporary lock on the back door but will defo be insisting on an ABS lock when they come in the week to fix it up properly.
Just tried to contact GAP insurers and guess what... "please call back on Monday during our office opening hours..." Bah! But thanks for the advice Mark V GTD :wink:
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Really sorry to hear this mate, but like others have said very glad you and family are ok.....you're right about its the invasion of your home which must be the most painful thing to deal with, awful really, hope you get sorted quickly :wink:
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Yes,sorry to hear about the break in Dave.As you say, the toughest part is the intrusion into your house.I think they used to call these people 'creepers'.It would certainly give me the creeps knowing someone or some people had been in my house while i slept.
Car can be replaced but it's not so easy with your mind.
Just checked your MOT record (i'm nosy like that).Car was one of the lowest mileage ones i've ever seen for the year. :sad:
I think we all need to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to scumbags these days.
Hope it all works out ok for you.
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Yeah, quite l low mileage and well looked after. Sometimes you think to yourself, 'what's the point?' when something like this happens. LOL, just wished they'd have done this 4 weeks ago before I paid out on getting the drivers seat repaired - could've said me a few bob :whistle:
On another note I got some online insurance quotes for a new GTI and they have increased by a whopping 130% :sick:
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Whew that is a hike! Do you think that's just down to the theft or a mix of general increase and a quote for a newer model? As I said for me I've ended up paying about the same ...was with Lloyds and they wouldn't re-quote , but got a quote from Privilege for around £360 which is similar to what I've been paying last 8 years...dunno if that figure is particuarly good or bad but budget for that amount so happy ish if it stays around that. (Of course if I change from a Gti to a fiesta ecoboost I might balk!)
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Yeah, quite l low mileage and well looked after. Sometimes you think to yourself, 'what's the point?' when something like this happens. LOL, just wished they'd have done this 4 weeks ago before I paid out on getting the drivers seat repaired - could've said me a few bob :whistle:
On another note I got some online insurance quotes for a new GTI and they have increased by a whopping 130% :sick:
Did you by any chance see what they put on the seat padding to stop it happening again? I did revive the old thread about it last week but didn't want to bother again so I thought I'd ask here instead. I need to get mine done again soon.
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Whew that is a hike! Do you think that's just down to the theft or a mix of general increase and a quote for a newer model? As I said for me I've ended up paying about the same ...was with Lloyds and they wouldn't re-quote , but got a quote from Privilege for around £360 which is similar to what I've been paying last 8 years...dunno if that figure is particuarly good or bad but budget for that amount so happy ish if it stays around that. (Of course if I change from a Gti to a fiesta ecoboost I might balk!)
Sure is a hike - average quote was £1,200 and that is for newer model with zero no claims. After reading various tidbits on the net it seems like I may only lose 2 years no claims. So done another quote on a comparison site and the cheapest on offer is currently £700 (which would be more reasonable). I am in a higher insurance post code area and am (was) currently paying £550 per year for a '14 plate. Where I live insurance premiums have been on a steady increase over the past 10 years :sad:
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Did you by any chance see what they put on the seat padding to stop it happening again? I did revive the old thread about it last week but didn't want to bother again so I thought I'd ask here instead. I need to get mine done again soon.
I ended up going to a different company after a mate managed to get hold of an original seat base (foam padding) for me at a very cheap price. So it was a straight swap and I only had to pay a fitting charge. Seat looked like new after the job had been finished but I never got around to taking a photo as it has done nothing nut rain here since I got the job done.
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dave - that's rotten what you've had to add to your signature strip. Your comments do sound like you are handling it okay, hope you get yourself sorted soon :smiley:
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Thanks Watts :smiley:
I am, surprisingly, quite calm and collected about the theft of the car but more concerned about the house break-in. The ease at which they broke in, and so quietly, is disconcerting and measures need to be put in place to try an prevent that from happening again.
Can anyone recommend any good CCTV systems?
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Thanks Watts :smiley:
I am, surprisingly, quite calm and collected about the theft of the car but more concerned about the house break-in. The ease at which they broke in, and so quietly, is disconcerting and measures need to be put in place to try an prevent that from happening again.
Can anyone recommend any good CCTV systems?
I would spend the money on better locks as your already doing most c**nt like this cover up as they know cctv cameras are cheap :smiley:
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carbon copy of the theft of my GTI. I could,nt be arsed to fix my house alarm that became faulty a few weeks earlier. I agree its the intrusion that gets you. The police,(in my case) were sympathetic but helpless. The only battle was the insurance quote on my loss. Did you have the anti-snap locks fitted?. If you did then thats worrying me right now. My wife reads this forum and this will bring back bad memories for her. It affected her really bad that someone had been in our home while we slept. It did,nt help that some scrote stole the front end of our current GTI a few months back. I have a garage but the house was built circa 65 for morris minors so it won't fit. Having REVO stage1 soon and with that comes the anti-theft setting. A big assurance. I'm gutted for you Dave.
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My mate got his X5 stolen a couple of months ago police said while cctv can help it usually doesn't put them off a noisy alarm is probably the best deterrent.
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I would just love them to get caught and find the answers to why and how they target some properties and cars. My break-in was anything but quiet or late;patio door smashing, running through the house, keys not that accessible, only 10 minutes after house lights were switched off. Insurance assessor said alarm would have probably made no difference.
So everything we do is prevention against what we presume they'll do but unfortunately I think we can't cover all bases.
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Sorry to hear this, It does worry me when I read things like this. Hikvison have very good CCTV cameras with good clear night vision not cheap though im afraid.
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Concerns me too.
Just read another post on "UK MK7 Golf R Owners Group" on FB, with pics of door locks broken in patio doors etc.
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I would just love them to get caught and find the answers to why and how they target some properties and cars. My break-in was anything but quiet or late;patio door smashing, running through the house, keys not that accessible, only 10 minutes after house lights were switched off. Insurance assessor said alarm would have probably made no difference.
So everything we do is prevention against what we presume they'll do but unfortunately I think we can't cover all bases.
Sorry, completely disagree. A loud house alarm will make all the difference. Not many people use their alarms at night, especially if they have pets or kids. As much as this type of scum are very happy to take chances, they don't really want to get caught and an alarm screeching at 3am is not something they want or will hang around to listen to.
To the OP, gutted for you. Having someone in your house is the worst part but having your pride and joy taken is pretty upsetting as well.
Didn't think about it when I ordered mine but more conscious now about it being parked on the drive. A guy I know who lives a mile or so away had his R and another car taken in the night earlier this year, R got found nearby.
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Well it was only 12 o'clock and my neighbour actualy woke to the sound of the breaking glass but by the time he had got up and looked out the window they were off. One of the thieves had stayed by the car and the other one opened it whilst still inside the house. The neighbour said the driver was already in before the house entrant appeared and when he did he literally jumped into the car and they flew off. Burglar alarm or not no neighbour or even us in the house would have been able to stop them. Although my husband might have grabbed him if he hadn't fallen down the stairs. :smiley:.
I think the position of the car on the drive and the easy access off the drive all helped, the police mentioned the fact the car was reserved in.
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I have to agree with Jim, i've always considered a burglar alarm an essential part of home security. That's not to say it will guard against every eventuality, but it can be a very effective deterrent if a would be thief sees that they have to get past it for their 'visit' to be worthwhile.
Some thieves are completely brazen and will fancy their chances in any situation, but the majority want to be in and out as quickly and quietly as possible and won't risk attracting any attention.
As said, doesn't mean that if you have an alarm that you'll never get broken into. But if you don't have one, or if you have one and never use it you're making it easier for them than it otherwise would be.
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We got done a few weeks back. Fortunately by habit I always take keys upstairs, so no cars taken. Loads of stuff left on the side, and not a single bit of it was taken, so small mercy.
CCTV is a waste of time in all honesty, all police bods we spoke to said the same thing. it's ok, but normally they are fully covered up anyway so doesn't deter.
As others have said, alarms are best methods, and easily installed. We got complacent and didn't arm ours, oh how things have changed. Extra sensors and gets armed every night now. Again, though as others mention, if they really want it, they will really try, which can have other "unwanted" actions associated with it.
Oh PS;
These are pretty decent, we've got a couple of sets now, and paired them with the 3star euro barrels (combined 5 star rating)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mila-ProSecure-PAS-24-UPVC-Door-Handle-92MM-122MM-2-KITEMARK-DH4677/390827029257?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=660234686390&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mila-ProSecure-PAS-24-UPVC-Door-Handle-92MM-122MM-2-KITEMARK-DH4677/390827029257?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=660234686390&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)
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We got done a few weeks back. Fortunately by habit I always take keys upstairs, so no cars taken. Loads of stuff left on the side, and not a single bit of it was taken, so small mercy.
CCTV is a waste of time in all honesty, all police bods we spoke to said the same thing. it's ok, but normally they are fully covered up anyway so doesn't deter.
As others have said, alarms are best methods, and easily installed. We got complacent and didn't arm ours, oh how things have changed. Extra sensors and gets armed every night now. Again, though as others mention, if they really want it, they will really try, which can have other "unwanted" actions associated with it.
Oh PS;
These are pretty decent, we've got a couple of sets now, and paired them with the 3star euro barrels (combined 5 star rating)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mila-ProSecure-PAS-24-UPVC-Door-Handle-92MM-122MM-2-KITEMARK-DH4677/390827029257?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=660234686390&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mila-ProSecure-PAS-24-UPVC-Door-Handle-92MM-122MM-2-KITEMARK-DH4677/390827029257?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=660234686390&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)
Really sorry to hear about this Dave, absolute scum they are.
I took the same approach as Agreeable Slick and upgraded our locks and door handles to the same one's last year, as the original locks and handles on the house were really poor quality. Watching youtube videos of snapping locks and door handles is simply scary. I have not installed CCTV for the same reasons, I would rather try and prevent the break-in in the first place with better security, although some of my neighbours do have CCTV installed.
My car also now gets parked in the garage whenever possible, house and garage alarm goes on every night, security lights etc...
sad times we live in ... :sad:
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Cheers guys/gals for all the positive comments and advice - it really goes a long way and you don't know how much I appreciate.
Okay, if CCTV is no such a deterrent then I will give that a pass.
Will definitely be fitting those ABS locks and I like the look of those handles Agreeable Slick - thanks for that. Will also be putting up a couple of extra alarm sensors and..... fitting a trip wire booby trap to a sawn off shotgun..... is that covered under reasonable force? :laugh:
No real news on the car but I did get a call from the Police last evening saying it was picked up on a traffic cam in Cheshire and was being driven on the same plates but they lost it.
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Yes, definitely thinking of replacing our lock cylinders, which are ten years old to newer 3 star rated versions - seems easy enough to replace by myself
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Sorry about your loss :cry:
I know its a pain to fit all the time but i use a Dislock and keep the key to this off the car keys i know they can be broken but hopefully they will just look at and think its one more thing to slow them down plus they have a 2nd key to find.
Just ordered one of these for the front of the house again more of a deterrent.
https://reolink.com/product/argus
And finally cars fitted with a self fit battery operated tacker with motion detection i know trackers aint for everyone but i would sure like to get one over on the C~~T that nicked mine
http://www.trackersecurity.co.uk/buy.html
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Cheers guys/gals for all the positive comments and advice - it really goes a long way and you don't know how much I appreciate.
Okay, if CCTV is no such a deterrent then I will give that a pass.
Will definitely be fitting those ABS locks and I like the look of those handles Agreeable Slick - thanks for that. Will also be putting up a couple of extra alarm sensors and..... fitting a trip wire booby trap to a sawn off shotgun..... is that covered under reasonable force? :laugh:
No real news on the car but I did get a call from the Police last evening saying it was picked up on a traffic cam in Cheshire and was being driven on the same plates but they lost it.
F**k don't try that you can't do much to protect yourself either these days I was arrested for abduction for taking a 14 year old to his parents house after he hit my house window with an egg :whistle: the rules are all wrong
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I unfortunately had the similar experience a few years back with my MK 6 GTI but during broad daylight they smashed down two back doors at 1500 and no one heard a thing !.
The car was found two weeks later on false plates and had been used for all sorts of criminal activity including armed robbery using a hand gun and had a carrier bag on the back seat with two baseball bats in it, they found a finger print on the bag and it was from girlfriend of a known criminal but that was the last i heard.
I like many others on here live in a low crime area but did not consider the toe rags that travel from the nearest city's to rob the unsuspecting while we are out at work, in favour of CCTV it stops them from knocking on the door when you are out to check if the house is empty.
All you can do is fit good locks,lighting and a decent alarm,get a safe and possibly CCTV and never leave your car keys in the house while you are out.The rest is down to luck :angry:
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Antisnap handles ordered.
Already have alarm that we use religiously.
Sad state of affairs, but better to lock the gate before the horse has bolted.
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Cheers guys/gals for all the positive comments and advice - it really goes a long way and you don't know how much I appreciate.
Okay, if CCTV is no such a deterrent then I will give that a pass.
Will definitely be fitting those ABS locks and I like the look of those handles Agreeable Slick - thanks for that. Will also be putting up a couple of extra alarm sensors and..... fitting a trip wire booby trap to a sawn off shotgun..... is that covered under reasonable force? :laugh:
No real news on the car but I did get a call from the Police last evening saying it was picked up on a traffic cam in Cheshire and was being driven on the same plates but they lost it.
F**k don't try that you can't do much to protect yourself either these days I was arrested for abduction for taking a 14 year old to his parents house after he hit my house window with an egg :whistle: the rules are all wrong
I was getting money out of a cash point a while back and this guy tried to take my wallet when I was turning around putting the money in it. Luckily I was able to grab hold of him and while I was teaching him the rights and wrongs of his ways someone must have called the cops because two cars pulled up and they pulled me off of him.
They were going to arrest me but for this older cop who pulled me to one side and just said you can't be doing this sort of sh!t any more and then told me to get in my car and p!as off.
Ended up with a broken toe and a fractured bone in my hand but it was well worth it.
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Cheers guys/gals for all the positive comments and advice - it really goes a long way and you don't know how much I appreciate.
Okay, if CCTV is no such a deterrent then I will give that a pass.
Will definitely be fitting those ABS locks and I like the look of those handles Agreeable Slick - thanks for that. Will also be putting up a couple of extra alarm sensors and..... fitting a trip wire booby trap to a sawn off shotgun..... is that covered under reasonable force? :laugh:
No real news on the car but I did get a call from the Police last evening saying it was picked up on a traffic cam in Cheshire and was being driven on the same plates but they lost it.
F**k don't try that you can't do much to protect yourself either these days I was arrested for abduction for taking a 14 year old to his parents house after he hit my house window with an egg :whistle: the rules are all wrong
I was getting money out of a cash point a while back and this guy tried to take my wallet when I was turning around putting the money in it. Luckily I was able to grab hold of him and while I was teaching him the rights and wrongs of his ways someone must have called the cops because two cars pulled up and they pulled me off of him.
They were going to arrest me but for this older cop who pulled me to one side and just said you can't be doing this sort of sh!t any more and then told me to get in my car and p!as off.
Ended up with a broken toe and a fractured bone in my hand but it was well worth it.
A broken toe?
Did you drop your wallet on your foot? :wink:
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Cheers guys/gals for all the positive comments and advice - it really goes a long way and you don't know how much I appreciate.
Okay, if CCTV is no such a deterrent then I will give that a pass.
Will definitely be fitting those ABS locks and I like the look of those handles Agreeable Slick - thanks for that. Will also be putting up a couple of extra alarm sensors and..... fitting a trip wire booby trap to a sawn off shotgun..... is that covered under reasonable force? :laugh:
No real news on the car but I did get a call from the Police last evening saying it was picked up on a traffic cam in Cheshire and was being driven on the same plates but they lost it.
F**k don't try that you can't do much to protect yourself either these days I was arrested for abduction for taking a 14 year old to his parents house after he hit my house window with an egg :whistle: the rules are all wrong
I was getting money out of a cash point a while back and this guy tried to take my wallet when I was turning around putting the money in it. Luckily I was able to grab hold of him and while I was teaching him the rights and wrongs of his ways someone must have called the cops because two cars pulled up and they pulled me off of him.
They were going to arrest me but for this older cop who pulled me to one side and just said you can't be doing this sort of sh!t any more and then told me to get in my car and p!as off.
Ended up with a broken toe and a fractured bone in my hand but it was well worth it.
A broken toe?
Did you drop your wallet on your foot? :wink:
hopefully damage done pulling his foot outta the scrotes arse
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Cheers guys/gals for all the positive comments and advice - it really goes a long way and you don't know how much I appreciate.
Okay, if CCTV is no such a deterrent then I will give that a pass.
Will definitely be fitting those ABS locks and I like the look of those handles Agreeable Slick - thanks for that. Will also be putting up a couple of extra alarm sensors and..... fitting a trip wire booby trap to a sawn off shotgun..... is that covered under reasonable force? :laugh:
No real news on the car but I did get a call from the Police last evening saying it was picked up on a traffic cam in Cheshire and was being driven on the same plates but they lost it.
F**k don't try that you can't do much to protect yourself either these days I was arrested for abduction for taking a 14 year old to his parents house after he hit my house window with an egg :whistle: the rules are all wrong
I was getting money out of a cash point a while back and this guy tried to take my wallet when I was turning around putting the money in it. Luckily I was able to grab hold of him and while I was teaching him the rights and wrongs of his ways someone must have called the cops because two cars pulled up and they pulled me off of him.
They were going to arrest me but for this older cop who pulled me to one side and just said you can't be doing this sort of sh!t any more and then told me to get in my car and p!as off.
Ended up with a broken toe and a fractured bone in my hand but it was well worth it.
A broken toe?
Did you drop your wallet on your foot? :wink:
hopefully damage done pulling his foot outta the scrotes arse
I'm not actually sure, I did give him a few kicks once I got him on the ground with kiss of heads but I may have also kicked the ground. The hand injury was caused by slapping him.
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Police got in touch with me again yesterday and apparently my vehicle has a disabled tracker on it :shocked:
Turns out the previous owner had one fitted and after the subscription expired it was deactivated. They have asked me to get it activated as they can't do it because there are charges involved... of course!
So, I have had to contact the company and they said they can send signals to the car but it can take anything upto 72hrs to get a response and if the vehicle is recovered then the cost will be £393!!
Also local plod told me that there is a gang of professional car thieves currently targeting fast golfs and audis in the North West area and that car crime had risen by 36% this year and most thefts were by them breaking into the house and taking the keys or assaulting vehicle owners as they get in their car. So anyone living in the area - be extra vigilant.
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Police got in touch with me again yesterday and apparently my vehicle has a disabled tracker on it :shocked:
Turns out the previous owner had one fitted and after the subscription expired it was deactivated. They have asked me to get it activated as they can't do it because there are charges involved... of course!
So, I have had to contact the company and they said they can send signals to the car but it can take anything upto 72hrs to get a response and if the vehicle is recovered then the cost will be £393!!
Also local plod told me that there is a gang of professional car thieves currently targeting fast golfs and audis in the North West area and that car crime had risen by 36% this year and most thefts were by them breaking into the house and taking the keys or assaulting vehicle owners as they get in their car. So anyone living in the area - be extra vigilant.
Not sure I'd want it back, especially as you have GAP.
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Not sure I'd want it back, especially as you have GAP.
Oh, I defo don't want it back but the Police advise that it would be noted in their report that there was a tracker system installed which if the insurance company review then it could affect the payout. I haven't confirmed this with the insurance company but does that ring true?
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Police got in touch with me again yesterday and apparently my vehicle has a disabled tracker on it :shocked:
Turns out the previous owner had one fitted and after the subscription expired it was deactivated. They have asked me to get it activated as they can't do it because there are charges involved... of course!
So, I have had to contact the company and they said they can send signals to the car but it can take anything upto 72hrs to get a response and if the vehicle is recovered then the cost will be £393!!
Also local plod told me that there is a gang of professional car thieves currently targeting fast golfs and audis in the North West area and that car crime had risen by 36% this year and most thefts were by them breaking into the house and taking the keys or assaulting vehicle owners as they get in their car. So anyone living in the area - be extra vigilant.
It's probably the same gang that took two of our cars 4½ years ago. Car's were found quickly (one had been parked up whilst they waited to see if it had a tracker fitted) and the other they were using but they were caught with it the following afternoon.
Thankfully there was no damage to either (the days of them doing doughnuts on council estates is long gone), but one needed new locks as the key was never recovered and the other one spent a week in a police compound and we had to get the key re-coded and new number plates.
In total we were left approximately £1,100 out of pocket but we couldn't claim on insurance as it was split across various policies and didn't exceed each excess.
Over the course of the following two years we received regular letters from the CPS advising of progress on prosecutions, etc., but we were left with the overriding view that the the legal system is only interested in the criminals and not the victims of crime.
Thankfully, none of us were hurt or threatened at the time of the theft, but it was a right pain in the a**e and those same 'scum' have probably now been released early, ready to carry on where they left off!
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Not sure I'd want it back, especially as you have GAP.
Oh, I defo don't want it back but the Police advise that it would be noted in their report that there was a tracker system installed which if the insurance company review then it could affect the payout. I haven't confirmed this with the insurance company but does that ring true?
Funnily enough I was just talking to a friend(who is a solicitor) today who has picked up his new R about your car getting stolen and about being told that it had a deactivated tracker.
He said that the insurance company could possibly not pay out because you didn't do everything in your powers to recover it if you didn't ask for the tracker to be activated. He also said that your insurance should pay for recovery, tracker costs, keys, locks and ignition barrel if found.
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He said that the insurance company could possibly not pay out because you didn't do everything in your powers to recover it if you didn't ask for the tracker to be activated. He also said that your insurance should pay for recovery, tracker costs, keys, locks and ignition barrel if found.
That's very handy to know and I'm glad that I asked the company to re-activate the tracker. If... the car is recovered by means of the tracker then it would be very interesting to see if my insurance company would foot the bill for the above. Would rather the car not be recovered and go with the insurance payout.
In total we were left approximately £1,100 out of pocket but we couldn't claim on insurance as it was split across various policies and didn't exceed each excess.
Ouch, that sucks. If the car is recovered then I will be out of pocket by around £900 as I have a £500 excess on the insurance and then the tracking company would want just shy of £400 too. That's £900 I don't have lying around to spare... hmmm, lucky dip on the Euro tomorrow me thinks :whistle:
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New anti-everything lock cylinders arrived today - piece of cake to fit and all done in less than 15 minutes for the three external doors on the house
Anything to help delay someone trying to break the locks
https://www.abs-secure.co.uk
(https://picload.org/image/dgcrplda/img_1557.jpg)
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They look quite impressive, I may have to invest :smiley:
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They look quite impressive, I may have to invest :smiley:
Not only that but they don't put a hole on your pockets like Yale lock keys.
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They look quite impressive, I may have to invest :smiley:
That's why I recommend them as per my earlier post on this thread...
I master keyed a few of the main doors on my house & have standalone keys for the doors I don't use much...
So now I just carry one of those ABS keys for the main doors which get used....
They also do the master key option on the 1/2 size euro version which fits garage doors....
Only down side is they have a magnetic section which attracts stuff...but turns the key into a multi-tool...
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They look quite impressive, I may have to invest :smiley:
That's why I recommend them as per my earlier post on this thread...
I master keyed a few of the main doors on my house & have standalone keys for the doors I don't use much...
So now I just carry one of those ABS keys for the main doors which get used....
They also do the master key option on the 1/2 size euro version which fits garage doors....
Only down side is they have a magnetic section which attracts stuff...but turns the key into a multi-tool...
Thanks for posting it up originally - really happy with the quality of the ABS stuff
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New anti-everything lock cylinders arrived today - piece of cake to fit and all done in less than 15 minutes for the three external doors on the house
Anything to help delay someone trying to break the locks
https://www.abs-secure.co.uk
(https://picload.org/image/dgcrplda/img_1557.jpg)
Same here!
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Sorry to the OP. This is the one thing that worries me about getting a gti. I don't even want to mention it to the missus.
Does anyone recommend using a steering lock as an extra deterrent?
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Have heard that some thieves take extra steering wheels if you have the wrong lock,
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Well, well, well. So last night the wife & I went for a beer or three and got home at a sensible time, with lights out at about 11.00.
The beer did it's trick until I needed the loo at about 2.15 a.m.
Back in bed, I'm just dozing off and I hear a noise I can't place. After a moment I sat up and heard some other faint noises. I got out of bed and went in our bathroom, which has a window that overlooks the path down the side of the house. Still hearing some noises I opened the window, looked down and saw the movements of a torch.
I shouted (somewhat loudly), "what the ____ do you think you're doing? You better ____ off!!, etc., etc.
After a moment, he turned and ran down the road. Didn't get any real description of him other than he looked average height and slim build.
It turned out that the first noise I heard was him moving the wheelie bin from in front of the gate where I had left it after collection day yesterday. The second noise was him trying to move a piece of granite propped up against the other gate (used to stop it getting blown open in the strong winds).
Decided to phone 101 and 15 mins later a police dog handler turned up and he did a quick search of the local area. Didn't find anything (this was probably 30 to 40 minutes later) except a piece of discarded clothing which may or may not have anything to do with toerag trying to break in.
So it looks like they are targeting South Manchester now as well.
Think a security re-think is in order!!
Does anyone recommend using a steering lock as an extra deterrent?
I do use a Stoplock and had it fitted yesterday, however if they break in and get the keys, they will also have the key for the Stoplock. Good solution for when the car is left somewhere dodgy but probably less so when parked on the drive.
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^^^ Glad it worked out well but must still be rather unsettling :sad:
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With the stoplock, secrete the key in the car somewhere, not on the car key.
This will slow them down even if they have the car key.
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I changed my GTi for an R was never really concerned about theft of the GTi as I had never really heard of them being targeted.
R is obviously a different story but a locksmith thought our locks were decent and we have an alarm that’s on downstairs at night so probably not much more I can do to protect the house, car sits on a drive but we are in courtyard that’s hidden from the road and we are overlooked by many as it’s the centre of the city.
Hopefully that’s enough for them to look elsewhere!
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the bar stoplock is useless (someone showed me at a garage once) but the one that covers the seering wheel is a lot better apparently.. :)
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the bar stoplock is useless (someone showed me at a garage once) but the one that covers the seering wheel is a lot better apparently.. :)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/95032/stoplock-pro (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/95032/stoplock-pro)
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the bar stoplock is useless (someone showed me at a garage once) but the one that covers the seering wheel is a lot better apparently.. :)
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/95032/stoplock-pro (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/95032/stoplock-pro)
that's the one they showed me, it was put on and then an adjustable spanner on the yellow part near the lock end and it prized (broke) the lock open, this was some years ago so they might of improved them since. it damaged/bent the stearing wheel a bit too.
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With the stoplock, secrete the key in the car somewhere, not on the car key.
This will slow them down even if they have the car key.
Guess I probably shouldn't store it behind the sun visor though!!
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the bar stoplock is useless (someone showed me at a garage once) but the one that covers the seering wheel is a lot better apparently.. :)
There are different versions of the Stoplock bar. The one in the link posted by Arnold_Lane - the Stop lock Pro - is the sturdiest one, that resisted attack in the Auto Express test for 5+ minutes. The other two versions; Stoplock Original and Stoplock Pulsar both only resisted attack in the Auto Express test for 5 seconds.
There are lots of owners on fiestastoc.com that use a Disklok. The main criticism they have of the Disklok is storage when it’s not in use; it’s rather large (and a potential hazard/projectile in the event of an accident) to leave in the passenger compartment in a footwell or on an unoccupied seat, and a hassle to put it in it’s storage bag in the boot.
If your car is attractive to thieves, a good quality physical security device like the Stoplock Pro or a Disklok is likely to deter the opportunist joyrider who’ll probably move onto easier pickings, but it’s unlikely to stop the determined professional car thief / scum who steals to order.
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Just pop the steering wheel off and put on another one
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Another cheap but excellent piece of equipment to deter the scum bags from entering your house at night is a LED T.V simulator you can buy them from Argos or Maplins,just plug it in when you are out or in bed at night.
From the outside of the house it looks exactly like a t.v flashing away its very cheap to buy and run and looks like someone is home and watching the T.V.
http://www.argos.co.uk/product/2389509
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Guessing the car hasn’t been found Dave?
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Guessing the car hasn’t been found Dave?
Nope, not that I want it to be... :whistle:
Haven't heard anything further from the Police or the tracking company so my insurance company is in the process of putting together a valuation of the vehicle to make an offer.
Did come home to a NIP today for doing 43 in a 30 zone at 03:41hrs on the day the car got stolen. The camera they went through is about 10 mins away from where I live so the theft has occurred just after 3am - good time to strike when one is in deep sleep mode!
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Will they let you off it given the circumstances? How does that work?
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It wasn't the OP driving so I would say once the paperwork is completed nothing more should happen.
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It wasn't the OP driving so I would say once the paperwork is completed nothing more should happen.
Agreed, but as the owner the op takes responsibility until someone else accepts responsibility. Which is unlikely to happen. I can only assume the estimated time of theft and police report kicks in.
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Been told that I should be fine - just got to return the completed NIP to them with a covering letter explaining the circumstances and the crime ref. no. and it will get quashed. :tongue:
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Will they let you off it given the circumstances? How does that work?
Yes, he wasn't driving! :wink:
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Seems to be a bigger issue in the North, Wildling's roaming around thieving.
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Just wanted to give an update.
The NIP was quashed without any problems. Got a letter from the Police saying if I have any more come through then to drop them a line and they will sort it out. :wink:
Car has not been recovered - probably spread all over the country by now! Insurance company has agreed to payout and offered top market value for the car which was a nice surprise and the GAP insurance have just confirmed they will be covering the full amount back to invoice price.
Now.... what car to buy next.... torn between another GTI PP but the facelift model or an Audi A3 Quattro Sportback :undecided:
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The best outcome there dave in the circumstances and a good advert for GAP insurance!
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Good to hear that you got this sorted without a fight.
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The best outcome there dave in the circumstances and a good advert for GAP insurance!
Yeah, you can say that again!
Definitely worth every penny the GAP insurance - every £9k that I got :grin: Would never buy a car again without it especially when you take into consideration that it doesn't really cost the much and can cover you for upto 5 years. Best money I ever spent.
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Cheers Guzzle - it was hassle free from the off and I am really thankful for that. :smiley:
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Out of interest, what happens between now and arrival of any new car? Does insurance cover you for a hire car?
Just thinking of new order lead times - can't see insurance been happy to cover 3-6 months because you ordered something new.
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Out of interest which company did you use for your GAP insurance?
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Just wanted to give an update.
The NIP was quashed without any problems. Got a letter from the Police saying if I have any more come through then to drop them a line and they will sort it out. :wink:
Car has not been recovered - probably spread all over the country by now! Insurance company has agreed to payout and offered top market value for the car which was a nice surprise and the GAP insurance have just confirmed they will be covering the full amount back to invoice price.
Now.... what car to buy next.... torn between another GTI PP but the facelift model or an Audi A3 Quattro Sportback :undecided:
Fantastic news, you're right about the gap it is the main thing that should be bought by every one buying a car.
As for the last paragraph, don't be stupid :grin: it has to be a GTi
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Out of interest, what happens between now and arrival of any new car? Does insurance cover you for a hire car?
Provision of a courtesy car isn’t always automatic under insurers motor insurance policies; with some insurers it can be an optional add-on. So, if it is an option and the policyholder hasn’t bought it, then they wouldn’t get a courtesy car at all. Worth anyone checking their policy to see if they have have this cover if it’s important to them.
Where a policyholder does have courtesy car / hire car cover and their car is stolen, it is usual for most insurers to place a limit on the number of days they will provide a courtesy / hire car - typically 14 days or until the claim is settled, whichever is the sooner.
Just thinking of new order lead times - can’t see insurance been happy to cover 3-6 months because you ordered something new.
They won’t - once an insurer has settled the claim for a stolen / unrecovered vehicle, they have no further obligation to provide a courtesy / hire car; their policyholder is in possession of the claim payment so is in a position to get a replacement car.
If I was in this position and didn’t have a second car I could use, I’d buy an old banger to tide me over until my new car was delivered.
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Out of interest, what happens between now and arrival of any new car? Does insurance cover you for a hire car?
Just thinking of new order lead times - can't see insurance been happy to cover 3-6 months because you ordered something new.
As others have pointed out it depends what you cover you have on your insurance policy. A courtesy car was extra for me so I didn't bother and it would've been for a max of 28 days. Currently I am carless until I either get a brand new or nearly new one.
Out of interest which company did you use for your GAP insurance?
I went with VW's own which, at the time, was by Global Insurance Management. At the time I was quoted £575 for 3 year cover on a return to invoice but I told them I could get one online cheaper - so they gave me their GAP insurance for the ALA online price.... £100. So a £9k payout for £100, now that ain't bad :laugh:
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Now.... what car to buy next.... torn between another GTI PP but the facelift model or an Audi A3 Quattro Sportback :undecided:
You'll miss all the toys if you get the A3... unless you've got another 10k to chuck in for Quattro and the toys.
You'll find the 7.5 PP quite a change tbh.
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Quite a change from a 7 pp? Some different lights, a digital dash and 10bhp. Not exactly that much of a change :grin:
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Well, my 7 to 7.5 change felt quite different... I guess it depends on what you spend your day looking at.