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General => The garage => Topic started by: Toby on 13 February 2012, 19:38
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hey nick!
iv got hulmie's old white mk4!
gone for the ko4 set up, thats being fitted this week. which is,
K04-022
standerd ko4 manifold
oil feed and water feed and both returns
3" decat and downpipe
badger 5 V2 80mm Tip
red top injector's - not fitting til mapping.
LCR fuel pump.
Big front mounted intercooler with atleast 2.5" pipework
im going from a stage 2 r-tech Remap with the old ko3s
how long am i looking at leaving it with you? and what price's?
Toby
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Get the new Relentless Ko4 manifold, its the new must have item for 2012. I am pushing a AGU k04-hybrid to 310bhp with less than 14psi of boost and no major heat build up, where the stock manifold would need 20+psi of boost to make the same power.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/125246960928520/
Only think you missed off the list is the MAF?
2.5" IC pipes is a must have as I found the limits of 2" 240bhp with 20psi of back pressure...lol
We will start from scratch with the mapping and work in steps, day 1 check and test all hard ware and pressure tests ect, day 2 tune the car to the limits of the stock maf and injectors to give base line readings to work from, then injectors and MAF are fitted, day 3 scale fuel and MAF maps and start to tune, day 4 map tweaking and road test logging plus final dyno runs. All the work will be carried out between booked jobs and free slots.
If your booking for March we will have our new OLS300 system installed and your remap will be a live emulated remap, where our laptops will connect direct to the ecu so we can make map calibrations in real time, which is going to make our maps even more refined.
SP3 Live Custom Map = £390 (bigger turbos)
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i have the maf :grin:
ill go for 3" intercooler pipework!
i think i have a tublar manifold, ill have a look what make it is later,
so if i bring it up on the 5th of march, and come back up on the 10th, would that leave you enough time?
it will defo be in march, as were going to Ultimate dub's on the 11th, but staying in leister on the saterday ( with family)
if you have them date's free then thats cool ill book the days off work, and book the train ticket's.
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Too cheap nick!! :grin:
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Too cheap nick!! :grin:
noo!!
also! all booked in, train tickets booked, for return home on the sat, and the journey up there! and a premier in for the friday night also!
Cant wait!!
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ill be looking at getting mine booked in soon to nick just got my tax and mot due so will get them outta the way and will be looking at getting the mapping done real soon after that
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Toby
Good to see your taking my old car further. Hope its still serving you well mate Still miss Her
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3 inch pipe work will be to big surely!!!!
im running 57mm turbo to intercooler and 60mm to throttle body thats on a big turbo setup
i know of cars in america running 700bhp on 60mm pipe work !!!
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Iv got 2.5" intercooler pipework.
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is your car there now?
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yeh! will be for a bit longer! iv wasted sooooooo much money :lipsrsealed:
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lol you wont beat my 6 months lol, still there now :lipsrsealed:
what car is yours i was there last week?
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:grin: haha 6 month's!
i droped if off saterday, goin back up friday!
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oh that is cool mate, yea it has some electric fault :rolleyes: black mk5 golf.... nick loves it lol.
Do you change ur mani in the end?
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yeah got a xs power manifold :grin:
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must say they do look the part!!
look an arse to fit lol.
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Lol, took ben a few hrs lol
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Lol, took ben a few hrs lol
Not an easy jobbie to fit them...lol
New Fuel pump on order dude :wink:
Maxed to stock one out at 277bhp 270lbft, infact the fuel started to head north at 250bhp..lol I cannot get over how well the your Relentless manifold setup works with the AGU and 2.5" FMIC pipes..... Its fecking imense AWESOME!!! The power is Relentless it make 277bhp with EASE. I was gutted when we maxed the fuel out and could not carry on, I think 285-290bhp is on the cards dude. :grin: I am running my own set of Saab red 360cc in it at the moment, but looking to go 440cc if I can get some at the right price.
The Bosch red you set where the Ford Reds at 300cc, which are perfect for a K03s-Forge actuator and 2.75" VR6 MAF.
Now I know where you thread is I can keep you updated better, I dont browse the forum as much now we not a sponsor so miss a lot of posts.
A few of the Audi-sport.net members are awaiting your final results, they have not a tuner who can do the AGU custom maps.
Nick
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iv got one in the mk4 section!!!!
whoa! it did well! but on its limit's! yeah i love the manifold! cant wait to get it glowing!
cant wait for the 1st drive!
ohhh dam! ill try sell them on! i think there good for a g60 upgrade! saab redtop's will be with me tomorow!
pm coming your way! :lipsrsealed:
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290bhp! :evil: Your gonna have one fast golf Toby!! :cool:
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im guna have some fun :grin:
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will it be there friday?? as im dropping of my car to be fettled with be good to see it go ;-)
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that combo does seem very good :evil: ur need a lsd :smug:
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Yeah it will be there friday,
Maxxeh whats lsd? I dont do drug's :laugh:
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:laugh: A limited slip diff, expensive but worth it.
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Iv no idea what that does lol :grin:
I need to uprate arbs next n get some body work done next then wheels n im done.
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It helps you get the power down. I think it works by the diff on our standard gearbox will push the power to which ever wheel spins easiest where an uprated one will push it to the other wheel and stop wheel spin. Awesome bit of kit but there about £800
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Somethig to look into then.
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an lsd is the best mod you can buy! you need to find some that has one to feel the diffrence. :evil:
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if your local to r-tech iw ill take you for a spin in mine once its all mapped ;-)
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im 3 hrs away mate :grin: but up there friday! if your close.
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lol im in reading so long trek for me also
im taking my track car up to him friday for a load of work and mapping etc etc etc ;-)
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see you friday then! :grin:
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yep will do
im leaving straight from a night shift so should be there about 8 am pillow out kip in car until nick arrives ;-)
then over to the wagon for a bacon buttie and a blowy lol
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blowey :grin:
haha ! funny you should say that, iv got a pillow and dovet in my car!
i wont be there till 1 ish depending on wether im driving, or train! :undecided:
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you cant resist Sally's Bap's.lol
May see you both there then.
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is the blowey bit true :grin: i might leave the mrs at the premier inn :grin:
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ive never asked for extra's, so ya never know.
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ive never asked for extra's, so ya never know.
:grin: :grin:
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I cant wait till next saterday :grin: oh nick :laugh:
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nice to meet you today buddy
nice car bet you cant wait to get her back lol
ive left mine and i truly cant wait to get her back !!!!!!1
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:cool: and u mate!! Nice motor you have there!!
Yeah im like 5 mins away n i want it lol.
Cant wait till next saterday!!
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did you get your car then mate?
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Pick it up next aaterday!!
Your car looked very sory for its self :laugh: and very dirty!!
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lol was his the one the skip lorry hit??
:shocked: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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lol, it is ready for the scrap yard mate!
we will need a respay soon lol.
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wich one is yours then ???
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the mk5 r444..... james from the other forum lol.
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lol, it is ready for the scrap yard mate!
we will need a respay soon lol.
Things that bad?
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good to meet ya aswell today Westallc
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nice to meet you to buddy would have stayed but was so tired!!!
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na only joking around
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Ticket's booked for saterday! :cool: i shall be ariving at 9.30 in hinckley! ( will need a lift ) :grin:
cant wait to see what result's we get this week!!!!!
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You can have bragging rights to one of the first stock K04 turbos to be running 300+bhp in the UK!!! (A real 304bhp 286lbft not any BS numbers like some making claims on the stock manifold because it aint never going to happen.)
The way forward for the AGU is now Relentless manifold & downpipe with 2.5" FMIC & match pipes, Saab reds...
EPIC result!!!! :grin:
Power going to be seat at 300bhp 280lbft and will be ready for Saturday dude!!!
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nice numbers :evil:
should be fun to drive!
might get my self a cheap mk4 and strip i out!
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oooooooooooooooshhhhh!! :grin:
i love this!! haha! the smile on my face :laugh: :laugh:
cant wait till saterday now!!
see your pm :cool:
bragging! i like it!
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would not mind a go in a mk4 with 300+.... wonder how the they handle lol.
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new coilovers and arb's needed. :grin: its going to be a hellofalotafun! :laugh:
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wow toby im sure your journey back is going to be fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnn lol
lovely results :laugh:
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yeah man! its guna be ossum!! cant wait :cool: i bet you cant wait to get your beast back aswell :cool:
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im not getting excited yet or thinking about it lol :evil:
but im sure it will be awesome 300 from a stock k04 wonder what he can do to a gt30 lol
im tempted to get a cheap gold and through the k04 kit on it as 300 bhp track car would be perfect !!!!!
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my god thats gonna be awesome!! defo not going up against you at gti fest mate :grin: with my slow stage 1 pmsl
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im not getting excited yet or thinking about it lol :evil:
but im sure it will be awesome 300 from a stock k04 wonder what he can do to a gt30 lol
im tempted to get a cheap gold and through the k04 kit on it as 300 bhp track car would be perfect !!!!!
haha!! do it! will be ossum!
my god thats gonna be awesome!! defo not going up against you at gti fest mate :grin: with my slow stage 1 pmsl
haha! il give you a chance! :laugh:
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Bring the car to Carbon put it on their rollers.. ill pay your fuel
lets see what it makes their ?? :smiley:
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id be more than happy to!
the trouble is, its 91 miles 1 hr 45 mins north from r-tech and 239 miles and 4 hours away from my house! :undecided:
and thats alot of v power, either way you look at it :laugh:
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lets bring it on, I'm interested to see what it makes their.
i have been told loads of times a K04 can't flow this much.. ?
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i have a XS power manifold, and a badger 5 tip!
trouble is! how much are you prepared to pay :laugh: id come up saterday! but 4 hr trip back is :sick: iv been up there , will be 3 weekends in a row :grin:
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well a read of
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=222289.0
might delay things a tad :lipsrsealed:
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A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!
If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.
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A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!
If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.
:cool: i rest my case! lol i dont really wana spend another 6 hours driving to prove a point that i dont need to prove! its clear as night and day!
i was talking to nick prawn on audi sport! he got
291 at r tech, 313 at AMD, then 293 at Badger 5, on 3 consecutive weekends so we know amd are sh!t!
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A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!
If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.
:cool: i rest my case! lol
new member got nowt to do with you then :lipsrsealed:
off to the shops......... back in 5
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Haha yes. I did assemble Toby's k04 setup. I've built a couple of these ko4 engines using the B5 tip and xs-power manifold. It makes a hell of a difference when mapped to suit!
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A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!
If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.
So you are saying, i put this manifold on my K04 car with a badger 5 tip and ill be at 300 bhp
where a well mapped K04 car will usually make in the region of 255 - 260 bhp, thats 40 + more ponies just from these mods
just all seems like a sales pitch for me, Badger 5 tip and manifold.. id like to see these cars on carbons rollers.. before i decide what route to take next with my car
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:laugh: :grin:
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/powerrun.jpg)
what makes Carbon's rollers so amazing?
Tbh, ben@pp does know his stuff he did put it all on mine :grin: and has been doing it for alot of year's!
@brad its not just bolt on these things and there you go! its helping with more air flow, in and out etc..
A badger5 3"tip on there as well. This car had the very best of every product on the Market which helps with air flow in and out. The ko4 power was moved last year by the introduction of the b5 tip added 15-21bhp on it's own merits now the Relentless manifold... 1.8t tuning has just got more fun for me.. Lol.
from nick.
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mate i know of a LCR with B5 tip and custom map. it made 245 bhp
i don't believe the hype over that tip at all.. not 15bhp anyhow..
I know the manifold is restrictive as standard, but seen as I'm planning on big turbo id replace that then anyhow.. Jury is out on 300 for a K04 for me.. hence why i need to see it on a RR i trust.. 300 bhp in a mk3 would be more than enough.. i mean mine is lunacy now at its around the 260 mark. with 290 ibft (more than your heavy ass mk 4 :tongue: :evil:)
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A k04-02? can flow enough for 300bhp, it does need ALL the supporting mods to allow it to breathe effectively and not become a heat pump with egt's through the roof. The o.e manifold has long been the bottleneck in the ko4-02x turbo, the introduction of an affordable well designed tubular manifold(although it's a p.i.t.a to fit) coupled with the superb 80mm badger 5 tip will see these results replicated again I'm sure. The last 6 months have seen a major jump in unleashing the potential of the k04! It's also worth remembering Toby has the agu engine with the large port cylinder head along with a slightly higher than amk/bam compression ratio! This all helps!
If Toby's happy to I will get his car on the dyno Saturday to see what's what. I'm 100% confident it will make a repeatable 295-305bhp.
So you are saying, i put this manifold on my K04 car with a badger 5 tip and ill be at 300 bhp
where a well mapped K04 car will usually make in the region of 255 - 260 bhp, thats 40 + more ponies just from these mods
just all seems like a sales pitch for me, Badger 5 tip and manifold.. id like to see these cars on carbons rollers.. before i decide what route to take next with my car
No that's sadly not the case. Presumably you have a amk/bam//apy/apx engine code. This means you are small port with 9-1 compression ratio. Fitting the xs-power mani and b5 tip to yours would 'probably' produce circa 285bhp but that's speculative at best.
It's not a sales pitch at all, I don't sell either of these products but in my repeated hands on experience it's
a worthy mod. If you get over to Audi sport net there's lots of data and dyno reports on both the xs mani and b5 tip. Iirc the manifold made a 30ish bhp difference over stock, that was a back to back test (this was a hybrid ko4 so naturally it will magnify the o.e manifolds poor flow, but still impressive.) Mad really.
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the manifold over on club GTI made only 8bhp gain mate
Carbons rollers are very True, heartbreakers intact.. Dyno Dynamics run in shootout mode
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Anyway 300bhp is so last year. I've heard it's all about 425+bhp and more importantly 4wd lol.
Jus' sayin' :rolleyes:
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r tech and badger 5 had 2 bhp differnce. :lipsrsealed:
it would be expencive for me and ben to come up saterday- depends on how much u wana see a mk4 ko4 AGU piss over a ko4 BAM :grin:
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its all about torque and the curve for me personally.. BHP ill leave for those who like to brag in the boozer (then get shown up on the road) :grin:
Toby seriously bring your car, lets see it back to back against mine then ? if this is what you really think :evil: :evil: think u might be surprised
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has got the pop corn out!! whoop!!
can i have ago against your car please :evil:
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the manifold over on club GTI made only 8bhp gain mate
Carbons rollers are very True, heartbreakers intact.. Dyno Dynamics run in shootout mode
Well that's handy lol, My local dyno is a dyno dynamics 4wd 2400hp. Toby's car will be on there Saturday weather he likes it or not! I'll post the pic in this thread Saturday.
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:grin: extra 6 hours of driving? come to santa pod on the 22nd :cool:
it is for me also!
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r tech and badger 5 had 2 bhp differnce. :lipsrsealed:
it would be expencive for me and ben to come up saterday- depends on how much u wana see a mk4 ko4 AGU piss over a ko4 BAM :grin:
This sounds like fighting talk... :lipsrsealed:
Well done on the 300 mate, pleased for ya! Would love to have a spin in it! :smiley:
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the manifold over on club GTI made only 8bhp gain mate
Carbons rollers are very True, heartbreakers intact.. Dyno Dynamics run in shootout mode
Well that's handy lol, My local dyno is a dyno dynamics 4wd 2400hp. Toby's car will be on there Saturday weather he likes it or not! I'll post the pic in this thread Saturday.
trip to lee then? :grin: i can see saterday being a long day! :laugh:
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mate its east to blag the results.. temperature etc seen it all done.. usually id not be arced but i have a genuine interest in this and id like to see it in the flesh then i know its no BS
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i can see my spare s3 an golf gettin stripped pretty quick with those results :laugh:
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mate its east to blag the results.. temperature etc seen it all done.. usually id not be arced but i have a genuine interest in this and id like to see it in the flesh then i know its no BS
Sadly I don't think you'll believe the results wherever you see them, not sure why though. If you want to come down to my local dyno you're more than welcome, I'm sure lee would even let you set the 'temperature etc' lol.
Most importantly, really pleased Toby got more than the result he was after and im sure he'll be dead chuffed with the work r-tech have put in.
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The k04 compressor map. Explain max flow? 300hp equates to around 0.21 M³/s. Cant see that on the map!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k36/cerips/Turbochargers/KKK/k040025.jpg)
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The k04 compressor map. Explain max flow? 300hp equates to around 0.21 M³/s. Cant see that on the map!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k36/cerips/Turbochargers/KKK/k040025.jpg)
Excuse me, aaa, come again :rolleyes:
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The k04 compressor map. Explain max flow? 300hp equates to around 0.21 M³/s. Cant see that on the map!
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k36/cerips/Turbochargers/KKK/k040025.jpg)
That maps for the k04-025 turbo dude. Rs4 spec- small.
But I have seen ko4-020 comp maps and yeah 300bhp is on the wrong side of its efficiency range for sure. But arguably possible.
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oh dear some sad people on here lol
nick is the last tuner on this planet that will try and make claims or make cars look like they have more power !!!
if you actually talk to nick and read some of his post you will find that this car is not the same as your bam !! this has a large port head and runs different management compared to the me7 !!
just because your car hasnt made it to the magical mark before you start giving it on the forum maybe you should ring nick and ask him how it was done then you would get an understanding how its mapped etc etc
the joys of forums lol
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That maps for the k04-025 turbo dude. Rs4 spec- small.
But I have seen ko4-020 comp maps and yeah 300bhp is on the wrong side of its efficiency range for sure. But arguably possible.
Post one up then mate. Then we can see how much heat it's pumping.
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That maps for the k04-025 turbo dude. Rs4 spec- small.
But I have seen ko4-020 comp maps and yeah 300bhp is on the wrong side of its efficiency range for sure. But arguably possible.
Post one up then mate. Then we can see how much heat it's pumping.
The ko4 produces vast amounts of heat when pushed hard, it's not really up for argument tbh. Hook vag com up to a car with a amk/bam, you will see intake temps as high as 60degrees and egt's hitting protection at over 900degrees on a stage 1 car! BW never released comp data for some ko3 & ko4's, I've seen a map somebody compiled, it's on vortex somewhere. I don't have the time to trawl through there trying to find it, if you want to, go for it! Lol
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Ok. So if it's a valid figure. :undecided: Spose time will tell how long it is before it grenades itself. :evil:
And whys it not up for arguement? Mapping outside of efficiency islands and overspeeding turbos, surely isn't good practice just to get pub numbers is it. ?? :shocked:
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Ok. So if it's a valid figure. :undecided: Spose time will tell how long it is before it grenades itself. :evil:
And whys it not up for arguement? Mapping outside of efficiency islands and overspeeding turbos, surely isn't good practice just to get pub numbers is it. ?? :shocked:
Running outside the efficiency range produces heat. If you can try and minimise this with the best supporting hardware you're going to get a great result.
Time will tell if it's reliable.
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It will be fine! Were get it dyno dynamics tollers saterday, and u can do logs on vag com ben whilst were driving it on the road to show the temps for aome
People!!
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Bring the car to Carbon put it on their rollers.. ill pay your fuel
lets see what it makes their ?? :smiley:
If I was quoting 300bhp I would be kidding myself and feel a right thingy.... so why would I kid myself??? I dont sell these relentless manifold so dont have nothing to gain dude.
I tell you what, you bring your car to me I will pay a days rental on a local dyno dynamics rolling road and I will tune your car then you can give the review for yourself.
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That maps for the k04-025 turbo dude. Rs4 spec- small.
But I have seen ko4-020 comp maps and yeah 300bhp is on the wrong side of its efficiency range for sure. But arguably possible.
Post one up then mate. Then we can see how much heat it's pumping.
Show me a comp map where an k03-053 will make 230bhp???
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Ok. So if it's a valid figure. :undecided: Spose time will tell how long it is before it grenades itself. :evil:
And whys it not up for arguement? Mapping outside of efficiency islands and overspeeding turbos, surely isn't good practice just to get pub numbers is it. ?? :shocked:
Tuning out of outside of efficiency islands? So thats every tuners stage 2 KKK map down the pan then??
It still sound like you need to do more reading in tuning engines/ VE timing ect..... lol
Running this turbo on stage2 mapped BAM with stock manifold would allow for 16-17deg advance in the midrange tops and produce egts 950deg+ FACT.
Now taking the biggest restiction out of the factor which causes this heat build up and beack pressure.... The car is running much less heat build up which = power gain, the turbo is running LESS n75 duty cycle to produce the power, the turbo running less boost..... and its running 22deg of timing advance at the top end with 0CF @12.4:1 which I have NEVER done or seen before on a k04 with large port head.
Last year I would have been the first to say 290+ from a k04 would never happend but the sence has moved on now and with the 80mm tips and Relentless manifold, dp and decat things have moved on heaps and bounds..... nothing to do with tuner or mapping skills,, its just the tuner has a bigger safer scope.
If you go on the face book page you will see all the video and logs...
Like I keep saying every time you try to knock me back... I would only be kidding myself giving wrong numbers, if members go to a rr day and get less bhp it would look bad on me wouldnt it???? But so far over the year all of my customers car have made bang on, more or 2-3bhp less on other tuners rolling roads.... Why would I shoot my reputation in down?
I know other tuners want to put my numbers down, by giving free rr sessions and power runs on there dynos....
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The manifold on a car over on club Gti only gained a extra 8hp nick
Explain this, really not having a go. I have a genuine interest
Don't want to be pushing the K04 So it's strangling its own life but if a genuine reliable 300hp can be achieved I'll be well up for ordering one of the manifolds
Just id be a little annoyed if I see next to no gains, and I could have save the money and the hassle of fitting and waiting on to go Gt28 etc
The B5 tips don't make no, if any difference Iv seen this with my own eyes
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So f17 bad what makes you so clever then as you make all this talk about tips nót making no difference no way will it make 300 !!!!
Do you tune cars ?? Are you an engineer?? Or just a normal fórum bod with a mk3 with nót enough power ???
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Just ordered the tweezers, magnifying glass and surgical gloves :undecided: :sad:
Question is where are you all meeting up so we can get this willy measuring over and done with :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
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Just ordered the tweezers, magnifying glass and surgical gloves :undecided: :sad:
Question is where are you all meeting up so we can get this willy measuring over and done with :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
LOL my galaxy has 90bhp but its old so 80bhp ať moment beat that bad boy ;-)
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The manifold on a car over on club Gti only gained a extra 8hp nick
Explain this, really not having a go. I have a genuine interest
Don't want to be pushing the K04 So it's strangling its own life but if a genuine reliable 300hp can be achieved I'll be well up for ordering one of the manifolds
Just id be a little annoyed if I see next to no gains, and I could have save the money and the hassle of fitting and waiting on to go Gt28 etc
The B5 tips don't make no, if any difference Iv seen this with my own eyes
You not seen any gains from an 80mm tip? The flow back to back with OEM & Braned tips is night and day dude. Again trust me I dont sell or profit from the 80mm B5 or SFS TIP but I can honestly say they are the best investment for a K04 owner.
With the Relentless manifold and 3" dp your turbo will be less stressed at 300bhp setup correct than running stage2 power on the stock manifold. Again its night and day.
First thing you need to do is get your current setup to the power it should be at, the AMKs are seeing 255-260bhp with the 80mm tip and induction kits running on v-power.
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Nick, just because you post up facts and figures on the net you assume that your the only one who knows about engines? I'm not a person who will just blow smoke up someone's arse because you spout about AFR'S and advance. :wink: Don't assume I know nothing, my goings on aren't on full display on the web. And by outside efficiency islands, I mean off the chart.
Yes you make a good arguement but.. It's your dyno. Do a proper comparison with an independent (not one of your mates) on something like a DD and we will see.
I like to see proper validation. Maybe comparing to standard cars with known factory outputs that will prove how accurate figures are.
It may look like I try to knock you back but I'm not naive and don't get sucked in by big numbers. Plus these are just a WOT plot. It says nothing about driveability.
This may flow enough for high outputs but for how many reliable miles? How many customers have had to have a turbo change a year or 2 down the line? We will never know. :wink:
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The manifold on a car over on club Gti only gained a extra 8hp nick
Explain this, really not having a go. I have a genuine interest
Don't want to be pushing the K04 So it's strangling its own life but if a genuine reliable 300hp can be achieved I'll be well up for ordering one of the manifolds
Just id be a little annoyed if I see next to no gains, and I could have save the money and the hassle of fitting and waiting on to go Gt28 etc
The B5 tips don't make no, if any difference Iv seen this with my own eyes
(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/376-lol-srsly.jpg)
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But saying this its not yet been tested on a small port head AMK or BAM, Its been proven to flow at 285bhp on B5 dyno with generic stage2 settings.
I have a BAM LCR with same setup sitting out side the workhsop, I have just fitted uprated rod,exhaust valves Relentless manifold, DP, decat SFS tip for the customer. I am set to tune it next week and the customers aim is 290bhp, but limiting factor over the AGU is the flow via the head. Fingers crossed it will flow enough for a safe 300bhp.
Its just never going to happen on a stock manifold or tip, what happend is the car makes more boost and cannot flow.
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Nick, just because you post up facts and figures on the net you assume that your the only one who knows about engines? I'm not a person who will just blow smoke up someone's arse because you spout about AFR'S and advance. :wink: Don't assume I know nothing, my goings on aren't on full display on the web. And by outside efficiency islands, I mean off the chart.
Yes you make a good arguement but.. It's your dyno. Do a proper comparison with an independent (not one of your mates) on something like a DD and we will see.
I like to see proper validation. Maybe comparing to standard cars with known factory outputs that will prove how accurate figures are.
It may look like I try to knock you back but I'm not naive and don't get sucked in by big numbers. Plus these are just a WOT plot. It says nothing about driveability.
This may flow enough for high outputs but for how many reliable miles? How many customers have had to have a turbo change a year or 2 down the line? We will never know. :wink:
FFS........ the turbo is running less stress than a stage 2 map... You clearly dont understand whats going on with the air flow here. There is a point on the stock ko4 manifold where added boost makes no more power, just heat and egts.
Get a stage1 AUM and add a full turbo back exhaust on its own merits you will see 10-12bhp with out adding any more boost.
As for mates dyno the runs above where not mates dynos, B5 and AMD, Even on JKMs DD rolling road my numbers are the same.
Can you explain what your issues are here you dont like to see some one doing well? You spending too much time on clubgti which is bias and I cannot/no other tuner cannot post in.
At the end of the day I DONT need to prove myself because over time on RR days ect the numbers will come to light.
At the end of the day on saturday Tobys feedback and grin will say it all...
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Nick wouldnt waste your breath !! To many no it all on here !!!
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i need to get my next bag of popcorn! :lipsrsealed:
Nick dont waste any more of that air and bloody reply to my text! :wink:
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Do you not like being asked questions? I have no bias and again, don't assume you know me and what I know. Clearly you don't. :wink:
If you don't want people questioning about what you have done, don't post on a public forum. Seems you have more of an issue because am sceptical?? And I find it hard to believe you are the only tuner that can do it? If you are, I take my hat off. I can admit when I'm wrong. I like to stoke the fire. :evil:
If you don't need to prove yourself, you wouldn't have your own thread boasting about your outputs.
Come on now.
That's a bit of contradiction. :grin:
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Just ordered the tweezers, magnifying glass and surgical gloves :undecided: :sad:
Question is where are you all meeting up so we can get this willy measuring over and done with :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
LOL my galaxy has 90bhp but its old so 80bhp ať moment beat that bad boy ;-)
I have AMK with 260bhp and 290 odd lbft under the hood actually and Iv researched a lot about tuning my car
Edit that's not aimed at u chuff but the other fool who was saying I did t have no power in my mk3
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Your so sad all well and good reply to a thread but insulting people is wrong
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Just ordered the tweezers, magnifying glass and surgical gloves :undecided: :sad:
Question is where are you all meeting up so we can get this willy measuring over and done with :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
LOL my galaxy has 90bhp but its old so 80bhp ať moment beat that bad boy ;-)
I have AMK with 260bhp and 290 odd lbft under the hood actually and Iv researched a lot about tuning my car
Edit that's not aimed at u chuff but the other fool who was saying I did t have no power in my mk3
Yep im the fool that said that and ať that power you cant say what i said isnt true ;-)
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Just ordered the tweezers, magnifying glass and surgical gloves :undecided: :sad:
Question is where are you all meeting up so we can get this willy measuring over and done with :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
LOL my galaxy has 90bhp but its old so 80bhp ať moment beat that bad boy ;-)
I have AMK with 260bhp and 290 odd lbft under the hood actually and Iv researched a lot about tuning my car
Edit that's not aimed at u chuff but the other fool who was saying I did t have no power in my mk3
Yep im the cool that said that and ať that power you vany say what i said isnt true ;-)
I didn't really understand what you said their or if u are trying to e sarcastic ?
I'm gonna purchase a manifold and take my car back to the rollers
We will see what it does, I already have a big tip on the car so I'm
Not bothered about wasting money on the B5, at the end of the day it still bottlenecks at the bottom where it meets the turbo ?
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Your so sad all well and good reply to a thread but insulting people is wrong
Think you'll find the insults saying what a person does or doesn't know wasn't started by me.
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Yep im the fool that said that and ať that power you cant say what i said isnt true ;-)
Oh dear oh dear :grin: :grin:
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m17 bad predictive text !!!!! my bad
what i was saying is you only have a mk3 with not a lot of power in reality that was all ;-)
you came on giving the that dont work that aint possible etc etc but yet you havent backed up anything up with your argument !!!
why not just step back take note try it and go from there
you are clearly just an enthusiast and not a mechanical super brain or engineer so again your posts where pointless imo
so you have a mk3 with xyz at the end of the day it might be your pride and joy but its just a mk3 with 260 bhp hardly ground breaking !!!
get the mannifold fitted and mapped and see what it does
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Your clearly a blinkered numpty
I'd put this old "mk3" up against your super 300bhp mk4
I know where I'd put my money :wink:
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I dont have a mk4 but i will race with my čar if you wish ???
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you girls, bloody hell.
you love your mk3, i will race you in my mk5 as you seem to think you can beat anything.
it is not all about peak numbers anyway! it is how it is delivered!
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Exactly, this mechanical mastermind should know this before saying my mk3 has no power
It won't beat anything but I know for a fact it would certainly give Toby a very hard time
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Well im happy! And tbh thats all that matters!!
And by the sounds of things - it will have been on 5 rollers by saterday.
Some graphs will be up tonight.
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Well im happy! And tbh thats all that matters!!
And by the sounds of things - it will have been on 5 rollers by saterday.
Some graphs will be up tonight.
Exactly :smiley:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
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It is all swings and roundabouts, He may have 30bhp more mid range better tyers or you may have. your car is lighter ect ect it goes on. lsd ect ect
Your killing this poor guys thread, just go to a RR session or go on nicks RR at the same time.
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It is all swings and roundabouts, He may have 30bhp more mid range better tyers or you may have. your car is lighter ect ect it goes on. lsd ect ect
Your killing this poor guys thread, just go to a RR session or go on nicks RR at the same time.
This.
Come put your car on r techs rollers and see how true carbons are??
Saterday about 10.30?
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I could do next Saturday but not this as I have Dj events and will have no sleep
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Just thought, my car is way too low for r tech
How about we all
Go carbon if I can sort it with craig ?
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Is that a shameless plug Rhyso :grin:
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Where? Im on the south coast ....
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Nice.. :grin:
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Nice.. :grin:
what did your bam make when finished mate :smiley:
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Mines an AMK but it made 283bhp/294lb-ft. That's with the SFS TIP and stock manifold.
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Mines an AMK but it made 283bhp/294lb-ft. That's with the SFS TIP and stock manifold.
bet your happy with that :smiley:
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Is that a shameless plug Rhyso :grin:
I haven't got a workshop mate so no. It's just to me the only way to disprove theories and bias etc is to select a neutral venue :smiley:
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Is that a shameless plug Rhyso :grin:
I haven't got a workshop mate so no. It's just to me the only way to disprove theories and bias etc is to select a neutral venue :smiley:
What a fooking good idea . I am sure Topher will know one we can use
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Is that a shameless plug Rhyso :grin:
I haven't got a workshop mate so no. It's just to me the only way to disprove theories and bias etc is to select a neutral venue :smiley:
Exactly my point. :wink:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
lol you crack me up pointless bum boys lol
mate not sure where you wanna go with this but your driving a £500 car yes it has 260 bhp wich you seem to think is ground breaking !!! its not
you came on here giving nick aload of crap !!! if you feel his results or any other tuners results are not what you like why not pick up the phone and chat to them first before spouting on the forum!!!
he and many other tuners on various forum do stuff that people dont believe why would they try and cheat figures if they dont sell the products involved. would make them look stupid when it hits another rr and make 280 wouldnt it !!!
so when did you want this race lol ???
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(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/richw911/forum/willywaving-1-1.jpg)
What an epic thread :grin:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
lol you crack me up pointless bum boys lol
mate not sure where you wanna go with this but your driving a £500 car yes it has 260 bhp wich you seem to think is ground breaking !!! its not
you came on here giving nick aload of crap !!! if you feel his results or any other tuners results are not what you like why not pick up the phone and chat to them first before spouting on the forum!!!
he and many other tuners on various forum do stuff that people dont believe why would they try and cheat figures if they dont sell the products involved. would make them look stupid when it hits another rr and make 280 wouldnt it !!!
so when did you want this race lol ???
you have to give us a clue what your bringin to this race :wink:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
lol you crack me up pointless bum boys lol
mate not sure where you wanna go with this but your driving a £500 car yes it has 260 bhp wich you seem to think is ground breaking !!! its not
you came on here giving nick aload of crap !!! if you feel his results or any other tuners results are not what you like why not pick up the phone and chat to them first before spouting on the forum!!!
he and many other tuners on various forum do stuff that people dont believe why would they try and cheat figures if they dont sell the products involved. would make them look stupid when it hits another rr and make 280 wouldnt it !!!
so when did you want this race lol ???
you have to give us a clue what your bringin to this race :wink:
1.9tdi galaxy 90bhp ;-)
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
lol you crack me up pointless bum boys lol
mate not sure where you wanna go with this but your driving a £500 car yes it has 260 bhp wich you seem to think is ground breaking !!! its not
you came on here giving nick aload of crap !!! if you feel his results or any other tuners results are not what you like why not pick up the phone and chat to them first before spouting on the forum!!!
he and many other tuners on various forum do stuff that people dont believe why would they try and cheat figures if they dont sell the products involved. would make them look stupid when it hits another rr and make 280 wouldnt it !!!
so when did you want this race lol ???
you have to give us a clue what your bringin to this race :wink:
1.9tdi galaxy 90bhp ;-)
that will get you laughed at
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Lets stick to facts and figures please
Save the insults for the playground
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Lets stick to facts and figures please
Save the insults for the playground
This!
Tonight another 3 results will be uploaded all on differnt dyno's! Just a shame one of them wont be the infamus carbon chip tuning rollers!
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Lets stick to facts and figures please
Save the insults for the playground
This!
Tonight another 3 results will be uploaded all on differnt dyno's! Just a shame one of them wont be the infamus carbon chip tuning rollers!
Surely if you get 3 different results from 3 different rollers then you must have 300hp...Unless you fudge all 3 results :rolleyes:
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Why would we want to do that! Id rather have 300bhp thas true than lying!
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Now place nice children otherwise I'll just delete the whole thing.
For what its worth I too have a genuine interest in these results and their long term effects :nerd:
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Thankyou rhys!
Its very hard to please every one. I can only go by what iv seen!
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Why would we want to do that! Id rather have 300bhp thas true than lying!
Agreed.
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Bet you can't wait till Saturday!
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
lol you crack me up pointless bum boys lol
mate not sure where you wanna go with this but your driving a £500 car yes it has 260 bhp wich you seem to think is ground breaking !!! its not
you came on here giving nick aload of crap !!! if you feel his results or any other tuners results are not what you like why not pick up the phone and chat to them first before spouting on the forum!!!
he and many other tuners on various forum do stuff that people dont believe why would they try and cheat figures if they dont sell the products involved. would make them look stupid when it hits another rr and make 280 wouldnt it !!!
so when did you want this race lol ???
Sent u a PM in reply to this pathetic response
Btw where did I give nick a load of crap ? Slating My car won't get u far
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by saying what you have said in previous post comes across as you basically saying nick is talking rubbish!!!
as for your car i havent slated it once have i ???
it a nice looking car and prob goes well :drool:
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by saying what you have said in previous post comes across as you basically saying nick is talking rubbish!!!
as for your car i havent slated it once have i ???
it a nice looking car and prob goes well :drool:
:wink: :cool:
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Apologies in advance Rhyso for this post.
Sent u a PM in reply to this pathetic response
Btw where did I give nick a load of crap ? Slating My car won't get u far
Right F17BAD, I wondered why this thread was giving me that de-javu feeling...
Looking back and it seems you just can't help yourself.
the AMK in bora, is that standard engine on oem management but with just a TIP and your custom map ?
did you run temp probe in the air intake when on the rollers ?
im a bit funny about all rolling road results now as they are too easy to fix, (im not saying you have or do this btw :smiley:).. i like to see a 3rd party temp gauge showing date,time, humidity and temp etc that matches up with any dyno results, date, time, humidity etc... :smiley:
dude i have AMK in my MK3
i had more torque than you before i had mine custom mapped (which is still a work in prtogress and will be completed end of this month)
i have a custom 3" downpipe made by trackslag, full Jetex exhaust system, No CAT, N249 delete, 007, Front mount intercooler, K&N reocated out of the bay, brand new MAF etc 40k on the engine bla bla
standard i got the 210bhp but i was well up on torque - more than what yours is now in fact (it was 230ibft)
im now upto around the 250hp mark and over 280ibft, gonna keep the torque capped at this as it is very brutal in my mk3 (alot lighter than your Bora)
what hardware issues you having ?
Firstly i can get the power down - just :laugh: nest up is LSD
dont want a 4WD (well Haldex) taking away all my power
ill post up all the results once the final mapping session is completed. at the momnet i also have the base map (which is putting out more than the base map on the bora :wink:)
We did think the N75 valve could need replacing. he didnt mention any issues with the actuator but TBH iv not got any logs to show you or anyone
My torque was 230 before they even touched anything... i put that down to the mods iv done..
The tip is big, no name on mine. but its bigger than the silicone one that is on my mates S3? which we thought was strange
ill get all the logs and graphs up once its completed. its going back in a couple of weeks. car is mental to drive, i love it
You're forever trying to disprove anything that isn't related to your car, and when people turn round and tell you to do one, you start acting as if you are purely interested from an educational point of view.
Even your recent for sale thread for a Mk2 1.8T downpipe was slating the Qpeng ones.
If your knowledge and Mk3 are both so fantastic why do you have to put everything/one around you down? As you said yourself, you're no expert.
ahh i see, the car in question had nothing to do with yohan tho, i was just wonerin why the graphs were cut off, plus the barometric pressure is low, and this will help give high reading ?? although im no expert so bare with me :embarassed:
we didnt hit a brick wall, we just plain ran out of time as it was after6pm by this point. will see what happens on the 23rd :smiley:
Don't bother sending me a PM in reply to my "pathetic response" #notinterested
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You think qpeng downpipes are good?? :shocked:
Mate keep it off this thread u goon, me and westallc are bff's now so all cool
:wink:
If people don't like to be asked questions or doubted then they are in the wrong place posting up on forums
:wink:
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lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol i have a new friend :shocked:
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Fail.
Ko4-022 :)
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I'll get my coat :embarassed: :grin:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
Maybe this is the only k04 with this unique setup 80mmTIP Relentless manifold and DP on a large port head. Please find me another build thread with exact same spec setup?
If it was not for the manifold and 3"DP then the mumbers would be my usual of 270-280bhp..... If running 2" chrage pipes then power would be closer to 240bhp or 2.25" pipes 265bhp.
Its NOT the tuner or map which have managed to crack 300bhp its the combintation if every high flow part on the car.
High flow Head
High Flow Inlet
High flow exhaust manifold
2.5" Charge Pipes
2.5" FMIC Core
3" Down pipe
Over on SCN the same setup is getting 290bhp on the small port BAM heads.... without custom mapping.
Can people stop looking at this as just a k04 making the power on its own merits.
The K04 will not make over 285bhp on generic setups parts and OEM manifold...
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Mines an AMK but it made 283bhp/294lb-ft. That's with the SFS TIP and stock manifold.
That the MAX your ever going to get dude...lol unles you get rid of your oem manifold.. :wink:
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the proof is in the pudding. :smiley:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
Maybe this is the only k04 with this unique setup 80mmTIP Relentless manifold and DP on a large port head. Please find me another build thread with exact same spec setup?
If it was not for the manifold and 3"DP then the mumbers would be my usual of 270-280bhp..... If running 2" chrage pipes then power would be closer to 240bhp or 2.25" pipes 265bhp.
Its NOT the tuner or map which have managed to crack 300bhp its the combintation if every high flow part on the car.
High flow Head
High Flow Inlet
High flow exhaust manifold
2.5" Charge Pipes
2.5" FMIC Core
3" Down pipe
Over on SCN the same setup is getting 290bhp on the small port BAM heads.... without custom mapping.
Can people stop looking at this as just a k04 making the power on its own merits.
The K04 will not make over 285bhp on generic setups parts and OEM manifold...
so with the same set up on a bam with your map what could u expect :smiley:
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the proof is in the pudding. :smiley:
The proof will be Saturday....... :grin: and your face :wink:
I would not worry about all the comments Toby, if you read back over the last 5 years you will see many people starting sh!t like this in the past making claims that the TDIs wont to 330lbft, and AUM stage 1 maps with turbo back exhausts wont make 220+bhp ect.
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yeah it cant come any sooner :cool:
im not worried! you guys know your stuff, and like you said, the set up iv installed is the best out there ( atm ) and is capeable of getting these results, which you have proved!
:cool:
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nick i am going to poke you in the eye and set fire to your house if you dont reply to my text lol :evil:
Would love to drive ur car toby :evil:
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nick i am going to poke you in the eye and set fire to your house if you dont reply to my text lol :evil:
Would love to drive ur car toby :evil:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
saterday? lol u can come give your car kisses aswell! :lipsrsealed:
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nick i am going to poke you in the eye and set fire to your house if you dont reply to my text lol :evil:
Would love to drive ur car toby :evil:
:grin: :grin: :grin:
saterday? lol u can come give your car kisses aswell! :lipsrsealed:
more like set fire to it lol
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such a shame :grin:
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the proof is in the pudding. :smiley:
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pudding :evil:
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
Maybe this is the only k04 with this unique setup 80mmTIP Relentless manifold and DP on a large port head. Please find me another build thread with exact same spec setup?
If it was not for the manifold and 3"DP then the mumbers would be my usual of 270-280bhp..... If running 2" chrage pipes then power would be closer to 240bhp or 2.25" pipes 265bhp.
Its NOT the tuner or map which have managed to crack 300bhp its the combintation if every high flow part on the car.
High flow Head
High Flow Inlet
High flow exhaust manifold
2.5" Charge Pipes
2.5" FMIC Core
3" Down pipe
Over on SCN the same setup is getting 290bhp on the small port BAM heads.... without custom mapping.
Can people stop looking at this as just a k04 making the power on its own merits.
The K04 will not make over 285bhp on generic setups parts and OEM manifold...
so with the same set up on a bam with your map what could u expect :smiley:
Nobody knows yet dude, there are 4 tuners who I know all working on projects like this right now and wanting to be the first to get the BAM/AMK results before everyone else.... I can see it being 295-300bhp
I was the first tuner to do this setup on the AGU m3.8 ECU. The only limiting factors with BAM and AKM is flow via the inlet and head v the AGU.
This the engines increased volumetric efficiency and flow which is making the k04 turbos produce such good numbers, its not the tuner bullsh!tting number..
There are claim on the SCN forum that just there stage2 maps are hitting 309bhp 340lbft @1.8bar on the stock turbo and manifold... These are your BS k04 numbers as at 280bhp the stock manifold EGTs are 980deg not matter what fuel stratergy is used.
All I can say to you DO it!!! even if I dont map your car and you get another tuner to tune your car and I am 1000% you will get some awesome results... You could go to town and fit the AGU head.
It just one member who reads between the lines on a very bias froum clubgti where only people who pay to sponsor can dictate, but its not going to be long before one of the clubgti sponsors publish his numbers with the manifold... and i bet the same person on this forum wont stir the sh!t on there...lol
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the proof is in the pudding. :smiley:
The proof will be Saturday....... :grin: and your face :wink:
I would not worry about all the comments Toby, if you read back over the last 5 years you will see many people starting sh!t like this in the past making claims that the TDIs wont to 330lbft
LOL What did I end up on? 360ft-lb on 3 different dynos :evil:
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the proof is in the pudding. :smiley:
The proof will be Saturday....... :grin: and your face :wink:
I would not worry about all the comments Toby, if you read back over the last 5 years you will see many people starting sh!t like this in the past making claims that the TDIs wont to 330lbft
LOL What did I end up on? 360ft-lb on 3 different dynos :evil:
You should have kept that beast....lol
(http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/Misc/Gallery/rollingroaddays/Golf%20GTI%20RR%20Day%2003%2010%2009/Dyno%20Graphs/EEA.gif)
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^^ That was with just a map...no other mods. Not how it ended is it haha.
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
Maybe this is the only k04 with this unique setup 80mmTIP Relentless manifold and DP on a large port head. Please find me another build thread with exact same spec setup?
If it was not for the manifold and 3"DP then the mumbers would be my usual of 270-280bhp..... If running 2" chrage pipes then power would be closer to 240bhp or 2.25" pipes 265bhp.
Its NOT the tuner or map which have managed to crack 300bhp its the combintation if every high flow part on the car.
High flow Head
High Flow Inlet
High flow exhaust manifold
2.5" Charge Pipes
2.5" FMIC Core
3" Down pipe
Over on SCN the same setup is getting 290bhp on the small port BAM heads.... without custom mapping.
Can people stop looking at this as just a k04 making the power on its own merits.
The K04 will not make over 285bhp on generic setups parts and OEM manifold...
so with the same set up on a bam with your map what could u expect :smiley:
Nobody knows yet dude, there are 4 tuners who I know all working on projects like this right now and wanting to be the first to get the BAM/AMK results before everyone else.... I can see it being 295-300bhp
I was the first tuner to do this setup on the AGU m3.8 ECU. The only limiting factors with BAM and AKM is flow via the inlet and head v the AGU.
This the engines increased volumetric efficiency and flow which is making the k04 turbos produce such good numbers, its not the tuner bullsh!tting number..
There are claim on the SCN forum that just there stage2 maps are hitting 309bhp 340lbft @1.8bar on the stock turbo and manifold... These are your BS k04 numbers as at 280bhp the stock manifold EGTs are 980deg not matter what fuel stratergy is used.
All I can say to you DO it!!! even if I dont map your car and you get another tuner to tune your car and I am 1000% you will get some awesome results... You could go to town and fit the AGU head.
It just one member who reads between the lines on a very bias froum clubgti where only people who pay to sponsor can dictate, but its not going to be long before one of the clubgti sponsors publish his numbers with the manifold... and i bet the same person on this forum wont stir the sh!t on there...lol
would the haldex on my s3 not lose some of the power or would i be better doing this to my golf :undecided:
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Who posted I could fudge the numbers?
Results today
Vtech 2wd RR = 284bhp :angry:
Roger Clarke Dyno dyno dynamics = 270bhp :cry: :cry:
Back on my dyno at 5pm = 260bhp. :embarassed: :embarassed: :embarassed:
After 2hrs fault finding, sorting actuator, tip seal and air filter back to 300bhp
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh252/Rtechremaps/IMG_2964.jpg)
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Toby, this is not directed at u, glad u are happy I am
Just showing a genuine interest so I can choose the direction of my car (without pointless input from r tech bum boys)
Seems r tech are the only people in the world who can get a K04 past 300
I'll get the manifold for my low powered mk3 :grin:
Maybe this is the only k04 with this unique setup 80mmTIP Relentless manifold and DP on a large port head. Please find me another build thread with exact same spec setup?
If it was not for the manifold and 3"DP then the mumbers would be my usual of 270-280bhp..... If running 2" chrage pipes then power would be closer to 240bhp or 2.25" pipes 265bhp.
Its NOT the tuner or map which have managed to crack 300bhp its the combintation if every high flow part on the car.
High flow Head
High Flow Inlet
High flow exhaust manifold
2.5" Charge Pipes
2.5" FMIC Core
3" Down pipe
Over on SCN the same setup is getting 290bhp on the small port BAM heads.... without custom mapping.
Can people stop looking at this as just a k04 making the power on its own merits.
The K04 will not make over 285bhp on generic setups parts and OEM manifold...
so with the same set up on a bam with your map what could u expect :smiley:
Nobody knows yet dude, there are 4 tuners who I know all working on projects like this right now and wanting to be the first to get the BAM/AMK results before everyone else.... I can see it being 295-300bhp
I was the first tuner to do this setup on the AGU m3.8 ECU. The only limiting factors with BAM and AKM is flow via the inlet and head v the AGU.
This the engines increased volumetric efficiency and flow which is making the k04 turbos produce such good numbers, its not the tuner bullsh!tting number..
There are claim on the SCN forum that just there stage2 maps are hitting 309bhp 340lbft @1.8bar on the stock turbo and manifold... These are your BS k04 numbers as at 280bhp the stock manifold EGTs are 980deg not matter what fuel stratergy is used.
All I can say to you DO it!!! even if I dont map your car and you get another tuner to tune your car and I am 1000% you will get some awesome results... You could go to town and fit the AGU head.
It just one member who reads between the lines on a very bias froum clubgti where only people who pay to sponsor can dictate, but its not going to be long before one of the clubgti sponsors publish his numbers with the manifold... and i bet the same person on this forum wont stir the sh!t on there...lol
would the haldex on my s3 not lose some of the power or would i be better doing this to my golf :undecided:
Sorry to say the S3 and TT AMK/BAMs tend to have to work harder on some dynos to make good numbers as its dragging added inertia, If you run it on a dyno which can do transmission losses then you should get close on good flywheel bhp...
If you run a haldex car in 2wd on a dyno dyno dynamic rolling road in 2wd then you will get wrong reading with the higher the power you go.
I ran a 450bhp R32 with 6 speed TDI ratios in 2wd on my dyno, 202mph in 5th gear and 110bhp transmission losses...lol
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that rollers look :cool: shame the state of the car :grin: lol!
atleast wev found out the problem's! :cool:
tomorow is a new day :evil:
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so golf it is then :cool: thanks nick an toby for atleast getting me interested in the golf again
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Iv done nothing :grin:
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Iv done nothing :grin:
thats what i will say when the wife asks why the cars faster :grin:
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that rollers look :cool: shame the state of the car :grin: lol!
atleast wev found out the problem's! :cool:
tomorow is a new day :evil:
best rolling road cell in the UK imo :wink: And i can use it when i want.. i just need to wash my hands
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Mines an AMK but it made 283bhp/294lb-ft. That's with the SFS TIP and stock manifold.
That the MAX your ever going to get dude...lol unles you get rid of your oem manifold.. :wink:
Oh I know...I'm having thoughts about upgrading.
Check your workshop e-mail :wink:
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wow that rc rolling road cell is amazing !!!
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wow that rc rolling road cell is amazing !!!
I might use this to tune your BEAST!!! next week... The graphs axis are already scaled to 700bhp... :wink:
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woop woop hows it been ?? any issues yet lol
700bhp nice you want me too order that other turbo lol
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You are a prick! Do you not like being asked questions? I have no bias and again, don't assume you know me and what I know. Clearly you don't. :wink:
If you don't want people questioning about what you have done, don't post on a public forum. Seems you have more of an issue because am sceptical?? And I find it hard to believe you are the only tuner that can do it? If you are, I take my hat off. I can admit when I'm wrong. I like to stoke the fire. :evil:
If you don't need to prove yourself, you wouldn't have your own thread boasting about your outputs.
Come on now.
That's a bit of contradiction. :grin:
His a prick I think you will find the only prick on here is you. His just telling you from his experience what results he has had. Your a bell end mate good reply to a discussion.
Nick ill be coming to see you when I get my LCR :cool:
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rar rar rar, half of the people who have posted could have just not bothered on this thread.
Toby, youve chose the right mod's and the right tuner. Good work
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@Toby
I dont want to give your car back.... I drives so nice and pulls like a biatch with out boosting over 20psi. On par with my old 299.9bhp k04-001-023 hyrbid which was on a stock ported manifold.
Done some more testing today logging injection duty which is the limiting factor of pushing power higher or higher in the rpm range. In the long term I think running it on 440cc and a forge actuator will move the power up rpm range.
Managed to come up with a solution for the fuel pump and it seem to be spot on now after a few tweaks to the oem swirl pot.
I cannot wait until I get this set up on my new mk4 AUM which is going to be my track slag, I will be over the moon if the small port head flows for 300bhp, if not I will still be happy with 285hp which can substain all day long with out the worry of engine killing EGTs.
Just needs final rr session to get final numbers with every thing in range a good wash and valet then collecting Saturday morning.. :wink:
@ F18BAD Do it dude!!! If your not happy with the results from the manifold.............. I will pay for it :laugh:
Nick
@ Clive 400+bhp and no brakes???? I got to drive your car home tonight to get some running in miles on the old girl.
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Will it need mapping with 440's? And acutator? Can it be done in a day? Ill book it in soon :cool:
Regards to giving it back! Haha i want it so bad!! Lol!!
Shame ur mrs didnt beat me to it hey :grin:
Iv got a s3 fuel pump sorced and to be fitted next week? Or should i leave the one you put in in??
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Will it need mapping with 440's? And acutator? Can it be done in a day? Ill book it in soon :cool:
Regards to giving it back! Haha i want it so bad!! Lol!!
Shame ur mrs didnt beat me to it hey :grin:
Iv got a s3 fuel pump sorced and to be fitted next week? Or should i leave the one you put in in??
440cc will need tweaks on part throttle mapping and start injection and min injection then just fine tune and log, can be done in a few hours.
As for fuel pump I will leave it in ans see how it goes, Its the same set I used on my own car and I ran 400hp on gas with out issues and james ran 430hp. Its just remembering how it fitted the pump to my swirl pot which stumped me..
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cool bro!
did you get over the air filter situation? next time im on my way tup north ill book it in!
are you going to santapod on the 22nd of april :cool:
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cool bro!
did you get over the air filter situation? next time im on my way tup north ill book it in!
are you going to santapod on the 22nd of april :cool:
Thats on the list for tomorrow..lol
I might be there on the 22nd, I need to get rid of this back log of work and get my drag slag ready for the summer shows... 11.9s is my aim..lol
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sweet :cool:
iv no idea what ill get! iv never done a 1.4 mile, got to start practicing! :lipsrsealed:
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yeah nick think that was the issue with the vacuum???
hows is it to drive?? :laugh:
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Westallc what is your beast that your getting mapped?
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Westallc what is your beast that your getting mapped?
1.9tdi galaxy ;-)
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Westallc what is your beast that your getting mapped?
1.9tdi galaxy ;-)
:grin:
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Westallc what is your beast that your getting mapped?
1.9tdi galaxy ;-)
Lol, what are you really getting mapped?
Even tho the galaxy was at the pinnacle of aerodynamics and engine technology back in its day!
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Toby you think you have a long drive, I'll have to do the trip from the island soon...
Well done to Nick on getting the power and Toby for spending his money on thec right things :cool:
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i second that, thanks nick for posting in your own time and giving us alot of info on tobys destiny to get over 300 horse lol. just goes to show that r-tech are all about the personal joy of getting the very best out of your car.
Got my car stage 1 mapped there last fall, couldn't have gone to a better tuner and i live like toby all the way down in west sussex (well not east) even though amd are 40 mins awway what's the point, rather have the best service. have reconmemned r-tech to many friends with 1.8t in west sussex and will also make the big trip.
and i'm currently in the middle of getting it ready for a stage 2 at r-tech in the summer!
just annoyed with earlier posts in this thread whcih have tried to ruin the results.
also well done to toby and ben for the build must be so happy! so cool to have that amount of power with a lot less boost due to the agu larger ports and relentless exhaust manifold, so cool! Really made me fascinated to research into a k04/highflow manifold for more power and less boost!
Just goes to show how brilliant the 1.8t 20v lump really is for tunning.
I'm a tech at Audi, in my last year of being an apprentice and I think the 1.8t is probably one of our best engines, much more reliable than the 2.0tfsi. only problem seems to be the odd pick up pipe which can then lead to pump.
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@wazza lol the drive's nothing! its the train journeys iv had enough off :grin: another 3 hrs and 4 changes on sunday! and thats not even the end of them! :grin: bens s3 is getting booked in for custom mapping in the next month or so :evil:
yeah! with out ben and nick nothing would have been possible! everything happend at the right time! and all fell in to place, theres been a few hickups but hey, who dont have them!!
@luke :cool: cheers man! lol! no doubt we will meet up soon n ill take you for a spin! as were not that far!
and like you say, its a shame about the other's...
its all about the smiles! :grin:
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well i couldn't believe it when my agu, went from a dull 150 to 190, smiles for ages still now, so god knows what 300 is going to feel like. just a shame these german cars have so much weight! but never the less its still 300 horse and is going to be f**king amense, something definately to experience in a golf! so much so afterwards it will make me feel extremely depressed with my golf and make me go straight home and purchase everything to do with a k04 conversion!
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:grin: id strip it all out, but its to nicer car to do that to! :tongue:
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+1
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1 more sleep! Im like a little kid at christmas :grin:
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Westallc what is your beast that your getting mapped?
1.9tdi galaxy ;-)
Lol, what are you really getting mapped?
Even tho the galaxy was at the pinnacle of aerodynamics and engine technology back in its day!
:grin:
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Hows today gone nick?
Will you give it back tomorow :grin:
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toby when your there give me an update on mine lol
i think the brakes didnt work to well on mine lol :lipsrsealed:
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what happend to the brakes? oh the shagalaxy :grin:
will do mate!
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apprently he has fixxed my car also! woohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! :evil: i will get him a blue peter badge!
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come get it saterday~!!!!!!! then u can see mine :cool:
http://tickets.southernrailway.com/sn/en/JourneyPlanning/MixingDeck
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sweet mate, you going to Inters? Would be good to have a look over it :cool:
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i havent got a clue lol i assume the galaxys brakes decided they wanted to have a rest lol
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sweet mate, you going to Inters? Would be good to have a look over it :cool:
is that at santapod? on the 22nd?
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come get it saterday~!!!!!!! then u can see mine :cool:
http://tickets.southernrailway.com/sn/en/JourneyPlanning/MixingDeck
lol could have a race off :P
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Brought your tiket yet ? Lol
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na collecting it mid week, to make sure all is good :evil:
I have asked nick to take you out in it lol ..... see what you think about my little pocket rocket! :P
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Looking forward to it :evil:
What was wrong in the end?
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coil pack/sensor lol.. dunno nick has changed loads of stuff. He left a nice burn out coming out of his posh office lol.
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No mate GTI international at Bruntingthorpe, not sure when it is...
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after reading all this im tempted to get another golf
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No mate GTI international at Bruntingthorpe, not sure when it is...
up in near lester! im game!
haha paul! you know it makes sence! 1.8t in a 4mo shell :cool:
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oi my idea lol :P
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oi my idea lol :P
Its a good idea! Lol sleeper ftw! But id want atleast 400bhp tho with the 4wd more fun!
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you dont need 4x4 lol 2wd more fun
have a good day buddy enjoy
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Happy Happy so so happy!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE MY JOB!!!!!
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i love you more! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
dyno's down south dont tell fibbi's neather :lipsrsealed: also - sorted the boost gauge - slight leak on the 'T' peice!
she is a dream! such a f**k*r in the wet though! :grin: :grin:
big thumbs up from me!!
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hehe sounds good mate!! so looking forward to get my old sh!tter back!
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(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/b5a99e7a.jpg)
:evil:
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that is cool :D
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:grin: so hot! lol made 299.1 297.7 on dyno erlier. and 309 with no air filter :grin: slight restriction so on the hunt for a air filter :wink:
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nice nice nice
great power bet it was ahoot to drive in the damp lol
mannifold glowing nicely
did you catch a look at my little baby?? was see okay lol
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it was sat in the corner looking sorry for its sorry little self :cry:
yeah it is hard to put the power down in the wet. spinnin in 4th :laugh:
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(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/b5a99e7a.jpg)
your downpipes 2.5" isnt it?
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dont say that lol :cry: :cry: :cry:
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damn i feel sorry for the heat shield
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hahah, yours has taken my old place :laugh: :lipsrsealed:
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i love you more! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
dyno's down south dont tell fibbi's neather :lipsrsealed: also - sorted the boost gauge - slight leak on the 'T' peice!
she is a dream! such a f**k*r in the wet though! :grin: :grin:
big thumbs up from me!!
Awesome stuff mate bet you are fu*king loving it!! Just dont lose it in the wet I know that will be my worry.
dont say that lol :cry: :cry: :cry:
Im sure you will be fine in your galaxy, lol :laugh: bet you cant wait to get it back!!
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:cry: :cry:
but whenit finished :shocked: :shocked: :sick:
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i need my 7 seats back :evil:
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3"
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Graphs needed.... :grin:
A dyno dynamics running 309bhp on k04 is bull crap!!!!
Never going to happen....... :laugh:
I am so glad your happy dude and didnt get worried or sucked in by past comments and posts. I tell customers the truth on the power.
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3"
3" is dam tight tho right?
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they was just a couple of rouge warriors no one listend to them nick dont worry!!
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(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/102f2a8b.jpg)
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/cb879dd4.jpg)
(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/f3e20ba4.jpg)
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you need to get some video's of the car, wanna hear what it sounds like out on the road.
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awsome mate bet your happy with it
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I only have a iphone 4 s as a camra n video, ill have sone vids next sat! Off to a air strip :evil:
Yeah man well happy with it! Shame it was very wet tonight
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That glowing manifold doesn't look good to me!
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It was on a dyno. So obviously its guna get hot stainless glows.
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Theres something a miss with those dyno plots.
What was the weather like there at the time? Raining? Overcast?
Dyno weather conditions show on the graph as:
BP = 99kPa
RH = 69%
AT = 15º
IT = 15-17º
Which doesn't follow weather in the actual location, which will affect how dyno uses correction.
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have you nothing better to do ?? :angry:
customer = happy
dyno = making good power
mapper = happy
99% of other = happy
what are you trying to do ??
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It was on a dyno. So obviously its guna get hot stainless glows.
There are also other reasons why a manifold glows red.
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Overfueling?
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Theres something a miss with those dyno plots.
What was the weather like there at the time? Raining? Overcast?
Dyno weather conditions show on the graph as:
BP = 99kPa
RH = 69%
AT = 15º
IT = 15-17º
Which doesn't follow weather in the actual location, which will affect how dyno uses correction.
The dyno was not used outside it looks like it was housed in a dyno cell...?
Totally indepentent dyno dynamics rolling road in F4 shootout mod.
The correction factor to each extream 998mb - 1030mb would be the MAX of 10bhp
I think you owe me an appology dude for making me look and feel a twit all week... :grin:
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That glowing manifold doesn't look good to me!
PMSL!!!! :grin:
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It was on a dyno. So obviously its guna get hot stainless glows.
There are also other reasons why a manifold glows red.
(http://www.jkurtzman.com/andrew/Website/cool-car-pics/glowing_headers_2.JPG)
All stainless manifold glow dude no matter what, just take a STOCK Cupra R out for a good thrash and look and the cast manifold.. they glow red stock.
You said by PM your was intrested to know why the car is making 300bhp+ but it seem your becoming a forum Troll in my and a few others eyes.
You wanted independent dyno number from a dyno dynamics rolling road, the customer gives you this and you still call them lies? now your trying to make out there is summat wrong with the and a manifold should NOT glow on a load based dyno? Again please use google and educate yourself before such making stupid comments.
I have been tuning many year dude, 500-600bhp most summer months on Omex ecus running T34-stage5 turbos on C20LET engine for sprint cars so I aint going to tune a car which aint safe and send it out.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=glowing+manifold&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1600&bih=708&wrapid=tlif133206438848010&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=fLBlT--xCOfD0QWPz7yNCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E50dRTZgxpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgPHKwoo8fk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnWhOBGXnZ0
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Why not a completely neutral venue that has no affiliation with this site? :smiley:
Is that a shameless plug Rhyso :grin:
I haven't got a workshop mate so no. It's just to me the only way to disprove theories and bias etc is to select a neutral venue :smiley:
Exactly my point. :wink:
Done this......and you still not happy.. :embarassed:
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Do you not like being asked questions? I have no bias and again, don't assume you know me and what I know. Clearly you don't. :wink:
If you don't want people questioning about what you have done, don't post on a public forum. Seems you have more of an issue because am sceptical?? And I find it hard to believe you are the only tuner that can do it? If you are, I take my hat off. I can admit when I'm wrong. I like to stoke the fire. :evil:
If you don't need to prove yourself, you wouldn't have your own thread boasting about your outputs.
Come on now.
That's a bit of contradiction. :grin:
I was not boasting!!!! I was telling MY customer that his PRIDE & JOY was running 300bhp to make him feel good and realise all of his hard work had paid off over the winter months. W
hich means i didnt have to prove myself to you.
But because of your comments and amature claims, Toby has had to shell out another £40 to run on a DD rr local to him because you made me out to be a bullsh@tter.
The DD rolling road results 297 299 and 309bhp have only backed up what I said and made you look silly.
@Toby because you have HAD to shell out money on another dyno just to prove to tshirt2K you have a 300bhp car, I will get you a better air filter sorted out for you £FOC to cover your costs. We have a batch of 10 R-Tech-Pipercross filters coming in next week, I will send it with your mates immo off ecu. :wink:
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I don't mate. Just a observation of how a dyno uses correction. Had a similar problem on a DD dyno where it was under reading due to a weather station error. DD dynos use their own standards for correction. Not SAE or DIN and as simple as a 10bhp figure. I don't think even indoors pressure changed that much unless the room was sealed. All these factor Will affect accuracy. Otherwise they wouldn't be shown.
If customer is happy that's all that matters, but graphs are on a public forum to be analysed are they not??? Some people are more interested in other aspects other than numbers.
Plus haven't seen your plots to see how the shapes compare.
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(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/richw911/forum/willywaving-1-1.jpg)
What an epic thread :grin:
Rich does this now mean Toby has got a big willy..lol :smiley:
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I don't mate. Just a observation of how a dyno uses correction. Had a similar problem on a DD dyno where it was under reading due to a weather station error. DD dynos use their own standards for correction. Not SAE or DIN and as simple as a 10bhp figure. I don't think even indoors pressure changed that much unless the room was sealed. All these factor Will affect accuracy. Otherwise they wouldn't be shown.
If customer is happy that's all that matters, but graphs are on a public forum to be analysed are they not??? Some people are more interested in other aspects other than numbers.
Plus haven't seen your plots to see how the shapes compare.
Correction factor would fudge numbers very very little, I cannot see why people get stuck up on them. Its how the dyno is used is what counts strapping ect..
My worry about a DD rolling road would be how the HELL did it come up with a reading at the fly wheel??..lol
Toby has all the graphs on a CD to post up,
Your interested in upsetting poor Toby... :cry:
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I never understand all this! who cares if it 10bhp out(give or take). it is all about drivability and customer satisfaction.
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I never understand all this! who cares if it 10bhp out(give or take). it is all about drivability and customer satisfaction.
At end of the day Toby is happy as Larry with his car and all his hard work he has put in, he is happy with how smooth the car drives, he is happy with the BHP reading we gave, he is happy with the independent dyno dynamics reads which he felt pressued into doing, he feel happy that all the money he spent on the car has not been for nothing.
Only one unhappy person on this thread...........
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Lets see whay happens when I tell you your k04 power reading with the RS4 valve..... 374bhp on the cards next week again...
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I never understand all this! who cares if it 10bhp out(give or take). it is all about drivability and customer satisfaction.
At end of the day Toby is happy as Larry with his car and all his hard work he has put in, he is happy with how smooth the car drives, he is happy with the BHP reading we gave, he is happy with the independent dyno dynamics reads which he felt pressued into doing, he feel happy that all the money he spent on the car has not been for nothing.
Only one unhappy person on this thread...........
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Lets see whay happens when I tell you your k04 power reading with the RS4 valve..... 374bhp on the cards next week again...
Get it right nick, 400bhp but then with correction factors of Warp BHP which would mean total output of 150bhp at flywheel whilst the Manifold is glowing red which means oh no, it has been mapped incorrectly.lol.
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I never understand all this! who cares if it 10bhp out(give or take). it is all about drivability and customer satisfaction.
At end of the day Toby is happy as Larry with his car and all his hard work he has put in, he is happy with how smooth the car drives, he is happy with the BHP reading we gave, he is happy with the independent dyno dynamics reads which he felt pressued into doing, he feel happy that all the money he spent on the car has not been for nothing.
Only one unhappy person on this thread...........
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Lets see whay happens when I tell you your k04 power reading with the RS4 valve..... 374bhp on the cards next week again...
ding ding round 2 comes to mind :rolleyes:
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we used to get my mates Uno turbo manifold glowing near on transparent back in the day :grin:
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(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t318/richw911/forum/willywaving-1-1.jpg)
What an epic thread :grin:
Rich does this now mean Toby has got a big willy..lol :smiley:
I guess it must do :grin:
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(http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu109/tobe1990/manifold_danger.jpg)
:grin:
Tbh, i couldnt be more happyer if i tryed! a few weeks ago niki said were see about 290bhp! i was chuffed with that! but would have allways wanted to break the 300bhp barrier at what ever cost!
adding it all up its cost just shy of £2000!
Considering its a 12 year old car with 117000 miles on the clock! and left the factory with 150bhp i think iv acheved quite alot tbh!
Yeah well i new you was spot on niki, but like you say people allways doubt RR's! ill upload graph's off the disk in a sec!
:cool: about the air filter niki! ( top notch customer car/service right there) folling that! a call 3 hours from niki to make sure i made it back ok and seeing how it drive, and any problems etc! top notch! you wouldnt get that with many other tuners tbh!
yeah man i have a even bigger willy!! :p and a very achy right arm after 4 hours of spivving the car once again!
with regads to all the pm's iv had asking about the ko4 set up - i think that explanes alot :cool:
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looks lovely now its clean buddy :smiley: :smiley:
it really is something that makes r-tech stand above the rest imo is the customer service. miles ahead of anyone not just in car mapping!!! in general alot of much bigger company could learn a few things.
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Cannot wait to do mine and see what it will MAX out to on a large port head with WMI..
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We have a batch of 10 R-Tech-Pipercross filters coming in next week, I will send it with your mates immo off ecu. :wink:
nick, when will there be a chance that i can order one? currently half way through mods for a stage 2 r-tech map. :)
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Cannot wait to do mine and see what it will MAX out to on a large port head with WMI..
am sure u will be 2 busy doing other ppls now that tobys cars all finished :laugh:
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Cannot wait to do mine and see what it will MAX out to on a large port head with WMI..
am sure u will be 2 busy doing other ppls now that tobys cars all finished :laugh:
Yeh hes got my shed to try and sort !!!!! Bloody čar ;-)
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Cannot wait to do mine and see what it will MAX out to on a large port head with WMI..
am sure u will be 2 busy doing other ppls now that tobys cars all finished :laugh:
Yeh hes got my shed to try and sort !!!!! Bloody čar ;-)
:grin: :grin: bet it gets sorted though
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My car has 115,000 on the clock. Is it still ok to remap or change turbo etc etc with that mileage? A mate told me last night not to mess with engine on mileage like that. But i thought i would be fine.
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Iv just hit 117000
Mileage isnt a isue its the history of the engine that matters.
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Thought so. Mine has FSH.
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as long as it is well looked after, there should not be a problem. The actuator arm will properly be very week.
what year is your car?
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Look at the AGU Hybrid k04 Audi A3 I did the week prior, it ran 330bhp but capped to 290-300bhp with 212k on the clocks..
Nick
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WOW. My engines still a baby then :laugh:
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WOW. My engines still a baby then :laugh:
:grin:
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the engines are very strong if looked after. seen 170k cars being remapped and getting good results.
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niki - in the dry its a wepon :laugh:
wrong siide on 140 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
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What bhp would i see from a K03, catback and a remap?
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probs around the 180bhp mark depending if the actuator is strong. Would recommend fitting a Forge 007p recirc valve and maybe get a pipercross panel filter or CAI to get more air to the turbo.
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niki - in the dry its a wepon :laugh:
wrong siide on 140 :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
naughty
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Yeah i will get a forge DV. I've recently just put in a pipercross panel filter. 180? That it. Might have to try get my hands on a K03s when i have money. :grin:
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without the filter and recirc valve.
I was getting 198bhp with 3" downpipe n de-cat, milltek back anni style system, pipercross filter, forge TIP and forge 007p with a r-tech remap.
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Just found out the BAM will also crack 300bhp :grin:
306bhp @5200rpm @ 1.29bar with less than 80% N75 duty on a stock actuator with 4 turns of added pre load.
EGTs 820 @ 6800rpm on the dyno, just need to do some road tesing to fully load the engine and injectors.. :grin:
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Just found out the BAM will also crack 300bhp :grin:
306bhp @5200rpm @ 1.29bar with less than 80% N75 duty on a stock actuator with 4 turns of added pre load.
EGTs 820 @ 6800rpm on the dyno, just need to do some road tesing to fully load the engine and injectors.. :grin:
is this with similar bits to toby :smiley:
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Just found out the BAM will also crack 300bhp :grin:
306bhp @5200rpm @ 1.29bar with less than 80% N75 duty on a stock actuator with 4 turns of added pre load.
EGTs 820 @ 6800rpm on the dyno, just need to do some road tesing to fully load the engine and injectors.. :grin:
is this with similar bits to toby :smiley:
Apart from the large port head and this is running me7.5 ecu which is a little be harder to run a good sum of timing advance
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turning into a K04 wizard now nick.
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hawt stuff! whens F17 BAD geting booked in for a REAL MANS REMAP! :evil:
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hawt stuff! whens F17 BAD geting booked in for a REAL MANS REMAP! :evil:
oh no lol... ding ding ding round 3 lol
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hawt stuff! whens F17 BAD geting booked in for a REAL MANS REMAP! :evil:
oh no lol... ding ding ding round 3 lol
the proof is in the pudding :lipsrsealed:
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turning into a K04 wizard now nick.
Its not me, its the improved hardware tuning options to make the engines more efficient, any tuner with a dyno and a good head for logging will get good numbers.. If it was not for the hardware then the map would max things out and sit around 270-280bhp tops, or with a stock size tip 245bhp.. :grin:
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hawt stuff! whens F17 BAD geting booked in for a REAL MANS REMAP! :evil:
oh no lol... ding ding ding round 3 lol
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc419/barrym381/popcorn.gif)
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turning into a K04 wizard now nick.
Its not me, its the improved hardware tuning options to make the engines more efficient, any tuner with a dyno and a good head for logging will get good numbers.. If it was not for the hardware then the map would max things out and sit around 270-280bhp tops, or with a stock size tip 245bhp.. :grin:
so what do i need for my s3 to see those results nick :undecided:
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mani
http://www.xspoweruk.com/k04-manifold.aspx
Badger 5 3" tip
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RED-BADGER-5-SILICONE-80mm-K04-TURBO-INTAKE-PIPE-TIP-S3-TT-LEON-CUPRA-R-/120865676279?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c2427dbf7
Good IC, I think the injectors are OK in the s3
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mani
http://www.xspoweruk.com/k04-manifold.aspx
Badger 5 3" tip
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RED-BADGER-5-SILICONE-80mm-K04-TURBO-INTAKE-PIPE-TIP-S3-TT-LEON-CUPRA-R-/120865676279?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c2427dbf7
Good IC, I think the injectors are OK in the s3
thanks mate i just missed these bits but have heard they are cheaper in the usa
http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/sale-wanted-audi-parts/152974-sale-xs-power-dp-decat-manifold-heavy-duty-clutch-kit-polybushes-r32-arb-badger-5-v2-tip.html
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depends how long your willing to wait i guess.. :undecided:
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depends how long your willing to wait i guess.. :undecided:
got family over there so i can only check an see :smiley:
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only thing with things from the US u can get stung for import tax, so they label it as a gift you away!
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only thing with things from the US u can get stung for import tax, so they label it as a gift you away!
havent been stung yet for it an had a few things sent over :wink:
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when i imported alot from USA, I just found a forwarding company. :wink:
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How's that work and affect cost?
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no import duty
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My 1/4 mile sprint car is now going k04 with Relentless manifold..... :grin: The big turbo T3/stage3 can wait until the end of the year now, I need to find the NEW limits of the k04 :grin:
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Haha!! Oh niki!! You mad man!! What have i created!
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I think I have around 20+ LCR & S3 with this manifold to map over the next few months. We just hope the hold up well.
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Not bad! Words got round quick that there good then! Not bad at all!!!
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Surely that manni should be wrapped in a basalt fibre tape or summat!?
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Surely that manni should be wrapped in a basalt fibre tape or summat!?
Its bad to wrap a manifold, you dont want to keep the heat in you want to get rid of it, big turbo car tend to wrap the manifold to hold heat to help spooling. The best way around it would be to wrap the parts around it in heat proof sheets.
Nick
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i love it how its only a golf but kills most factory sports cars on the road,
love there faces when you fly past a yammaha r6 or up next to a bmw/ porsche etc :grin:
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wrapped manifolds I've seen tend to crack too :nerd:
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Still going strong! :cool:
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What boost levels are you running when making that power? i.e. what's your peak?
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Surely that manni should be wrapped in a basalt fibre tape or summat!?
Its bad to wrap a manifold, you dont want to keep the heat in you want to get rid of it, big turbo car tend to wrap the manifold to hold heat to help spooling. The best way around it would be to wrap the parts around it in heat proof sheets.
Nick
what about ceramic coatings?
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Got here a little late (page 33 ) but -
Is all this on standard AGU internals? And trying not to sound like a noddy, just read in another thread that once you're car has Revo software it then can't be mapped by a third party?! My car has 'Stage 1' Revo software (to tide me over until I can afford such luxuries as a Relentless manifold etc). Would be cheesed off if I thought I was going to have to faff around putting a standard ECU back before I can have you guys map it.
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Got here a little late (page 33 ) but -
Is all this on standard AGU internals? And trying not to sound like a noddy, just read in another thread that once you're car has Revo software it then can't be mapped by a third party?! My car has 'Stage 1' Revo software (to tide me over until I can afford such luxuries as a Relentless manifold etc). Would be cheesed off if I thought I was going to have to faff around putting a standard ECU back before I can have you guys map it.
I think Rhyso maybe able to confirm your thoughts on not be able to map it if been done by revo....
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Some earlier revo codes locked out ECU's, but Niki can flash them back to standard first, then upload his own map onto them.
My old A3 daily drive had a revo trial locked out on the ECU, and it took Niki 2 1/2 hours to fix it rather than the usual 45mins or so, but it got there in the end and the results were well worth it :)