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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: gman86 on 06 September 2011, 21:33
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Hey all,
Have noticed that my 10 plate 3dr GTI is producing a fair bit of wind noise from the driver side door. It sounds like a window isn't fully up, and is worse when the bodywork is wet. On a private track, at 130+, the passenger side then became very noticeable and again, it sounded like a window was down a little. Naturally I've checked and they weren't :D
I've given the seals a visual and they all look to be fine, but was wondering if anyone knew if this was a common issue with the GTI or if it deserves a trip back to the dealership.
Cheers,
Graham
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Hey all,
Have noticed that my 10 plate 3dr GTI is producing a fair bit of wind noise from the driver side door. It sounds like a window isn't fully up, and is worse when the bodywork is wet. On a private track, at 130+, the passenger side then became very noticeable and again, it sounded like a window was down a little. Naturally I've checked and they weren't :D
I've given the seals a visual and they all look to be fine, but was wondering if anyone knew if this was a common issue with the GTI or if it deserves a trip back to the dealership.
Cheers,
Graham
Should be intresating the dealers taking the car up to 130+ :grin: or lets see what they say ?
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It is a common problem.... i have had it in my GTI, and seemed to be similar to a polo courtesy car i had also.
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
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Mines very quiet :wink:
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Mine was also very very quiet :wink:
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You both have extra thick seals to keep the noise out! :smiley:
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You both have extra thick seals to keep the noise out! :smiley:
Diesel is very quiet and a nice place to be :grin:
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Mines as quiet as a mouse apart from the baby seat rattling about in the back but the stereo takes care of that :smiley:
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I've also noticed this in my GTD from the driver's door. Likewise, I sometimes find myself checking if the window is fully closed! I only really notice it occasionally, at motorway speeds.
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Hey all,
Have noticed that my 10 plate 3dr GTI is producing a fair bit of wind noise from the driver side door. It sounds like a window isn't fully up, and is worse when the bodywork is wet. On a private track, at 130+, the passenger side then became very noticeable and again, it sounded like a window was down a little. Naturally I've checked and they weren't :D
I've given the seals a visual and they all look to be fine, but was wondering if anyone knew if this was a common issue with the GTI or if it deserves a trip back to the dealership.
Cheers,
Graham
Should be intresating the dealers taking the car up to 130+ :grin: or lets see what they say ?
LOL! I don't often visit that private track, so that sort of speed isn't common place. I suspect the issue with the drivers door will be the same with the passenger, so they only need to take it about 40mph +.
I had a 10 plate 1.4 GT TSI and it was absolutely silent, so not sure if it's specific to the GTI/D's?
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
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Mk5's have this issue too.
Vw were ment to have cured it, but by the looks of it , they havent :angry:
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
But they look kak! :laugh:
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
But they look kak! :laugh:
You say that, but my ST went, looked, cornered and sounded better than any Mk6 GTI every could :P
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Better handling than the GTI??? Lol come on! GTI consistantly wins awards for the best all round hot hatch. ST engine is terrible too, typical Fords!
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
But they look kak! :laugh:
You say that, but my ST went, looked, cornered and sounded better than any Mk6 GTI every could :P
Faster?
http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ford_focus_st-vs-vw_golf_gti_mk_vi.html
Jim
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
But they look kak! :laugh:
You say that, but my ST went, looked, cornered and sounded better than any Mk6 GTI every could :P
Faster?
http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ford_focus_st-vs-vw_golf_gti_mk_vi.html
Jim
God it ugly that ST :shocked: :tongue:
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Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent: (IMPOSSIBLE) all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
You say that, but my ST went, looked, cornered and sounded better than any Mk6 GTI every could :P
Please make up your mind.
Every Ford Focus I have driven rattles. Their looks are not very appealing either, inside or outside. The ST and RS versions are just plain vulgar.
My Mk6 Golf GTI has little or no wind noise (depending on speed), no rattles, no squeaks and rides and handles like a dream come true.
Might I humbly suggest you go and buy a Ford ASAP.
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Yeah it is on there. Mentioned it to my dealer when getting my car serviced and they know it's a common fault with the rubber seals. 6 months later and I still have the old ones in! :rolleyes:
Are they willing to replace the seals? I find it a bit unacceptable TBH from a car that cost twice what I paid for a Focus ST 3 years ago, and it was absolutely silent all the way to a GPS verified, autobahn testing, 161mph (very heavily tuned).
But they look kak! :laugh:
You say that, but my ST went, looked, cornered and sounded better than any Mk6 GTI every could :P
I think what you have all failed to pick up here is that his ST was heavily modified :rolleyes:
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The ST is a good car when standard imo but it likes a drink but the 5cyl noise makes up for it.
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The ST is a good car when standard imo but it likes a drink but the 5cyl noise makes up for it.
it is a good car.. and probably a little better put together than the GTI possibly. They have been known to eat turbos though and a friend that had one, had constant trouble with it from new. As it gave poor economy we both agreed that the R32 was a better option.... but he had family that worked for ford so didnt lose too much
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it is a good car.. and probably a little better put together than the GTI possibly. They have been known to eat turbos though and a friend that had one, had constant trouble with it from new. As it gave poor economy we both agreed that the R32 was a better option.... but he had family that worked for ford so didnt lose too much
Not true by any means. I had a 5 door ST for 3 months on loan and it was horrid.
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it is a good car.. and probably a little better put together than the GTI possibly. They have been known to eat turbos though and a friend that had one, had constant trouble with it from new. As it gave poor economy we both agreed that the R32 was a better option.... but he had family that worked for ford so didnt lose too much
Not true by any means. I had a 5 door ST for 3 months on loan and it was horrid.
horrid suggests it was not to your taste. anyone that has owned or recently run a ford focus will tell you that they are very well put together. reliability of engines/turbos could be questioned... but very rarely hear of build quality issues.
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it is a good car.. and probably a little better put together than the GTI possibly. They have been known to eat turbos though and a friend that had one, had constant trouble with it from new. As it gave poor economy we both agreed that the R32 was a better option.... but he had family that worked for ford so didnt lose too much
Not true by any means. I had a 5 door ST for 3 months on loan and it was horrid.
horrid suggests it was not to your taste. anyone that has owned or recently run a ford focus will tell you that they are very well put together. reliability of engines/turbos could be questioned... but very rarely hear of build quality issues.
Horrid =
Dashboard was not centrally aligned, all doors, bonnet and bumpers mis-aligned, wind noise/rustle from all doors, boot would not shut first time round, squeaks and rattles from trim and seats, FM radio kept losing stations and full of interference, sat nav kept mis-directing, roof trim loose, driver's seat could not be lowered enough so one sat 'on it' rather than 'in it', brakes seized up, heated seats suffered from burnt elements, squeaky front wipers, terrible economy, noisy fuel pump, rear light bulbs kept blowing and it goes on and on.
However, I have a feeling that the above would not be considered 'horrid' in your very considered and highly informed opinion.
I presume that as the engine did not blow up after 3 months should be considerd to be a saving grace and miraculously turns the ST into a well-made car.
FORD = Fix Or Return Daily.
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^ sounds like my mk6 :grin:
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^ sounds like my mk6 :grin:
At least your Mk6 GTI looks decent.
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it is a good car.. and probably a little better put together than the GTI possibly. They have been known to eat turbos though and a friend that had one, had constant trouble with it from new. As it gave poor economy we both agreed that the R32 was a better option.... but he had family that worked for ford so didnt lose too much
Not true by any means. I had a 5 door ST for 3 months on loan and it was horrid.
horrid suggests it was not to your taste. anyone that has owned or recently run a ford focus will tell you that they are very well put together. reliability of engines/turbos could be questioned... but very rarely hear of build quality issues.
Horrid =
Dashboard was not centrally aligned, all doors, bonnet and bumpers mis-aligned, wind noise/rustle from all doors, boot would not shut first time round, squeaks and rattles from trim and seats, FM radio kept losing stations and full of interference, sat nav kept mis-directing, roof trim loose, driver's seat could not be lowered enough so one sat 'on it' rather than 'in it', brakes seized up, heated seats suffered from burnt elements, squeaky front wipers, terrible economy, noisy fuel pump, rear light bulbs kept blowing and it goes on and on.
However, I have a feeling that the above would not be considered 'horrid' in your very considered and highly informed opinion.
I presume that as the engine did not blow up after 3 months should be considerd to be a saving grace and miraculously turns the ST into a well-made car.
FORD = Fix Or Return Daily.
:grin: :grin: not one comment about how it drove!! i like it!
maybe they just saw you comming and gave you the ragged to death demo for fun :laugh:
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I felt as if I was driving a lorry.
The car was a brand new sample belonging to a friend of mine which he left in my care for 3 months whilst he was away.
It took the whole 3 months to get some of the problems fixed.
At the end of this rather wonderful experience, I hated the heap with a vengeance.
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I felt as if I was driving a lorry.
The car was a brand new sample belonging to a friend of mine which he left in my care for 3 months whilst he was away.
It took the whole 3 months to get some of the problems fixed.
At the end of this rather wonderful experience, I hated the heap with a vengeance.
i know how you must have felt... i had issues with my GTI, only thankfully it wasnt mine to keep so didnt bother with getting most of them fixed. No doubt I would have ended up as frustrated as snoops and other members that have left their car in the car of VW dealerships had i done so.
you almost expect it with the ford as its a fair few pennies cheaper than the golf... when you shell out top money for supposedly top of the range golf.... :undecided:
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Thread has went way off topic, and there are far too many folk that I care to bother quoting...however.
Mr Comparison man - how about you go like for like for the era: http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ford_focus_st-vs-vw_golf_mk_v_gti.html
Handling isn't all about how fast a car goes round a track. It's about how it feels to drive. The feedback from the steering, the way feels changing direction, stopping, accelerating etc etc. The Mk6 GTI has a trick differential which no doubt helps it feed power down through the corners whereas the ST's open diff allows the very high, low down torque, to light up quite easily.
There's obviously a fair few badge snobs on here that dismiss the ST purely based on the badge on the front. I owned one for 3 years and for a car with alleged misaligned panels, poor fit dash and crap drive train, it certainly sounded better both inside and out, than a Golf GTI. Fuel economy was not relevant, I was getting about 300 miles to a tank, standard, and I'm not much more on the GTI. If I cared about fuel, I'd have bought a diesel.
As far the eating turbos theory, I was and still am an active member on the FocusSTOC, and failing turbos is certainly not common.
I bought my GTI because I fancied a change of scenery, a supposed quality upgrade. Now a car with less than 8k on the clock sounds like I'm driving about with a hole on the B pillar and a hand brake that feels like it's connected to a bungee cord instead of a cable.
Back on topic - the car is booked into Volkswagen to have the door seals looked at.
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p.s. http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ford_focus_st_facelift-vs-vw_golf_gti_mk_vi.html
Indeed, however the facelift is just that... a face lift. Engine, drive train, chassis etc all remain the same :P The MkV vs MkVI has nearly 10 extra bhp, and a trick differential :P
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p.s. http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ford_focus_st_facelift-vs-vw_golf_gti_mk_vi.html
Indeed, however the facelift is just that... a face lift. Engine, drive train, chassis etc all remain the same :P The MkV vs MkVI has nearly 10 extra bhp, and a trick differential :P
I was only trying to compare like for like. i.e. mk6gti with current focus st :cool:
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Thread has went way off topic, and there are far too many folk that I care to bother quoting...however.
Mr Comparison man - how about you go like for like for the era: http://www.fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ford_focus_st-vs-vw_golf_mk_v_gti.html
Handling isn't all about how fast a car goes round a track. It's about how it feels to drive. The feedback from the steering, the way feels changing direction, stopping, accelerating etc etc. The Mk6 GTI has a trick differential which no doubt helps it feed power down through the corners whereas the ST's open diff allows the very high, low down torque, to light up quite easily.
There's obviously a fair few badge snobs on here that dismiss the ST purely based on the badge on the front. I owned one for 3 years and for a car with alleged misaligned panels, poor fit dash and crap drive train, it certainly sounded better both inside and out, than a Golf GTI. Fuel economy was not relevant, I was getting about 300 miles to a tank, standard, and I'm not much more on the GTI. If I cared about fuel, I'd have bought a diesel.
As far the eating turbos theory, I was and still am an active member on the FocusSTOC, and failing turbos is certainly not common.
I bought my GTI because I fancied a change of scenery, a supposed quality upgrade. Now a car with less than 8k on the clock sounds like I'm driving about with a hole on the B pillar and a hand brake that feels like it's connected to a bungee cord instead of a cable.
Back on topic - the car is booked into Volkswagen to have the door seals looked at.
You should have stuck with the ST and thus be 'on topic' part way through the thread and possibly try and be less precious with a perfectly interesting discussion. Sometimes the truth hurts.
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Back to the wind noise from the windows, I took my GTI down to the dealer as I could hear what sounded like movement in the doors. One of the guys came out with a small bottle of lubricant which he reckoned would cure the problem (he used it on his dub van apparently). He rubbed it along the door seals around the top of the door & sure enough it cured the problem. He said it was expensive ( I think he said £20 for a bottle no bigger than a small tube of superglue). I'm sorry but I can't recall what it was called but my 10 plate GTI is all quiet now.
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WD40 is very effective. Try it.
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You should have stuck with the ST and thus be 'on topic' part way through the thread and possibly try and be less precious with a perfectly interesting discussion. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Are you genuinely that pedantic, or are you just dim? I mentioned the ST as a comparison since it was my last car, then some folk dragged it off topic with their uneducated VW tinted views and I responded accordingly. Once it started getting a bit too spammy for this thread, I tried to drag it back on topic only for you to continue badgering with your inane ramblings.
Now, if you've nothing constructive to say or if you have no value to add to this thread, kindly go polish the VW badge on your car key with your helmet.
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Back to the wind noise from the windows, I took my GTI down to the dealer as I could hear what sounded like movement in the doors. One of the guys came out with a small bottle of lubricant which he reckoned would cure the problem (he used it on his dub van apparently). He rubbed it along the door seals around the top of the door & sure enough it cured the problem. He said it was expensive ( I think he said £20 for a bottle no bigger than a small tube of superglue). I'm sorry but I can't recall what it was called but my 10 plate GTI is all quiet now.
Krytox
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Back to the wind noise from the windows, I took my GTI down to the dealer as I could hear what sounded like movement in the doors. One of the guys came out with a small bottle of lubricant which he reckoned would cure the problem (he used it on his dub van apparently). He rubbed it along the door seals around the top of the door & sure enough it cured the problem. He said it was expensive ( I think he said £20 for a bottle no bigger than a small tube of superglue). I'm sorry but I can't recall what it was called but my 10 plate GTI is all quiet now.
Krytox
This could be the same stuff that VW gave me to cure a noisy door seals. It is commonly used on the Eos as you do get more flex in the chassis with a convertible. I used to notice this slow creaking noise when reversing slowly on an uneven area. Very small bottle that you spray and rub into seals...
This is not the cure for the wind noise that continues to happen on the odd occasion at high speeds though :undecided:
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Back to the wind noise from the windows, I took my GTI down to the dealer as I could hear what sounded like movement in the doors. One of the guys came out with a small bottle of lubricant which he reckoned would cure the problem (he used it on his dub van apparently). He rubbed it along the door seals around the top of the door & sure enough it cured the problem. He said it was expensive ( I think he said £20 for a bottle no bigger than a small tube of superglue). I'm sorry but I can't recall what it was called but my 10 plate GTI is all quiet now.
Krytox
This could be the same stuff that VW gave me to cure a noisy door seals. It is commonly used on the Eos as you do get more flex in the chassis with a convertible. I used to notice this slow creaking noise when reversing slowly on an uneven area. Very small bottle that you spray and rub into seals...
This is not the cure for the wind noise that continues to happen on the odd occasion at high speeds though :undecided:
I'll wait to see what VW say when they look at the car. As per usual it's "the first time we've heard of that" when mentioning what appears a common fault.
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Yes, gman86, I am pedantic, dim and worse.
I hope you find a cure for your wind noise. Surely, it must be driving you mad.
I am now off to polish all my VW badges as per your suggestion. :kiss:
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Can't be bothered reading the whole thread.
The wind noise happens sometimes if the car is wet.
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A suggestion:
The solution might lie, not in just changing the seals but ensuring that the doors hang perfectly with respect to the bodywork, especially in the B pillar area. The heavier doors on two door cars may align less accurately after usage. An excellent bodyshop fitter is required. Car mechanics are hopeless with bodywork panels.
Even at a speedometer reading of approximately 149 mph, my car suffers no intrusive wind noise.
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On my first mk5 (which is basically the same door but a little superior in the older car) I had a wind noise issue and it was quickly cured by a 'technician' adjusting something on the door that made the top of the frame sit tighter against the seal (a bit like on kitchen unit doors I guess where you can mess about with the hinges, although it usually just makes it worse on kitchen units!). I didn't see exactly what he did as I was chatting to the receptionist at the time.
Not exactly a helpful post I know, but it shows it's an easy fix.
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Well I picked the car up from VW with a "fault not reproduced". Absolutely livid. I offered to take the technician there and then onto the dual carriageway right next to the dealership but was informed I'd have to make an appointment :angry:
I'll have a look at the door mounts and see if there's anything that's easily adjusted. If not, it's getting thrown straight back at them.
The car only had 3400 miles when I picked it up, and is sitting on 8k now. It's made the noise pretty much from day one.
I do a fair amount of miles at speed (over 50mph) and it's really starting to ruin my enjoyment of the car :(
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I would suggest trying another dealer and speaking to VW UK.... that usually gets them to pull their finger out :wink: :smiley:
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I would suggest trying another dealer and speaking to VW UK.... that usually gets them to pull their finger out :wink: :smiley:
That or buy one of the new Fords which might have less wind noise.
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Is that Krytox stuff the same as can be used for diving equipment? There was some dupont stuff on ebay for £13 but not sure if it's the same?
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Is that Krytox stuff the same as can be used for diving equipment? There was some dupont stuff on ebay for £13 but not sure if it's the same?
One and the same as it's made by DuPont.
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I would suggest trying another dealer and speaking to VW UK.... that usually gets them to pull their finger out :wink: :smiley:
That or buy one of the new Fords which might have less wind noise.
personally I would go back to the mk5... the original and much better made
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I would suggest trying another dealer and speaking to VW UK.... that usually gets them to pull their finger out :wink: :smiley:
That or buy one of the new Fords which might have less wind noise.
personally I would go back to the mk5... the original and much better made
:rolleyes:
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I would suggest trying another dealer and speaking to VW UK.... that usually gets them to pull their finger out :wink: :smiley:
That or buy one of the new Fords which might have less wind noise.
personally I would go back to the mk5... the original and much better made
:rolleyes:
You meen the 5 year old rust heaps. :grin:
My mk5 was nothing special and i was told i could not be unlucky twice yea right :grin:
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never had a day of trouble in my mk5 .... whish i could have said the same for the mk6 :undecided:
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never had a day of trouble in my mk5 .... whish i could have said the same for the mk6 :undecided:
Which car is the object of your present affection?
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never had a day of trouble in my mk5 .... whish i could have said the same for the mk6 :undecided:
Get another R32 then Gilly some lovely ones knocking around now, people cant afford to run them I suppose :wink:
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never had a day of trouble in my mk5 .... whish i could have said the same for the mk6 :undecided:
Get another R32 then Gilly some lovely ones knocking around now, people cant afford to run them I suppose :wink:
I love the R32, the looks, the sound - shame it's got the Mk5 interior
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never had a day of trouble in my mk5 .... whish i could have said the same for the mk6 :undecided:
Get another R32 then Gilly some lovely ones knocking around now, people cant afford to run them I suppose :wink:
I love the R32, the looks, the sound - shame it's got the Mk5 interior
Yes Ive drove quite a few on test and loved them,but I just refused to pay road tax £400 , yes I'm a tight git also 17mpg around london :shocked:
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never had a day of trouble in my mk5 .... whish i could have said the same for the mk6 :undecided:
Get another R32 then Gilly some lovely ones knocking around now, people cant afford to run them I suppose :wink:
I love the R32, the looks, the sound - shame it's got the Mk5 interior
Yes Ive drove quite a few on test and loved them,but I just refused to pay road tax £400 , yes I'm a tight git also 17mpg around london :shocked:
hmm... there is a though!! The mazda is in the same tax bracket as the R32, costs me just as much to run on petrol as the R32.. yet I still seem to like the mazda for now. :undecided:
I will be going back to an R32 soon.... but currently jobless means it would be silly to buy one right at this moment in time. sooooon though :evil:
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Ive read about a TPS on an American forum for this issue so your dealer if there any good should be able to find it on there TPI list.
Does anyone know if this "defect" is on VW's TPI list? I've my car booked in to have my wind-noise door looked at tomorrow, but when I made the booking he looked up the system and couldn't find any information this type of issue! I must be the first ever to complain about it!
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My dealer knew about, common problem I think.
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My dealer knew about, common problem I think.
149 mph and no wind noise. :smug:
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My dealer knew about, common problem I think.
149 mph and no wind noise. :smug:
Drowned out by the tyre noise!!
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My dealer knew about, common problem I think.
149 mph and no wind noise. :smug:
Drowned out by the tyre noise!!
No. The car was surprisingly quiet as the road surface, for once, was excellent. :smug:
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Drowned out by a multi million pound audio set up? :grin:
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Drowned out by a multi million pound audio set up? :grin:
Again. No. Was listening to nothing and marvelling at the silence of my rapid progress. :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug:
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Drowned out by a 'noise generator'? :smug:
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Drowned out by a 'noise generator'? :smug:
No. :kiss:
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You were actually on the Playstation and it wasn't windy outside? :smug: :smug: :kiss:
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You were actually on the Playstation and it wasn't windy outside? :smug: :smug: :kiss:
No. Both you and Snoops know that's not true.
You evil one. :evil:
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Update:
I had mine into the dealers today for the wind noise and I think they've fixed it. They adjusted the door so that it closes more flush with the side of the car, if that makes sense. Before this, when I closed the driver's door, the B-Pillar (shiny black plastic) stuck out more than it did on the passenger side. Now it sits flush.