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Title: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 04 June 2010, 16:25
I walked past a parked GTD this morning while taking the kids to l'école. I noticed it because it was exactly the same spec' as my GTI: 5-door, carbon grey, cloth seats, etc. but it looked so dull and bland without the red bits (front grill inserts & cloth seats). They are such small additions, but boy, do they make a difference!

Bring on the hate mail :wink:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FamilyDub on 04 June 2010, 16:41

Deep inside their hearts, they know it's true.  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:   :evil:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: squirrelGTi on 04 June 2010, 16:42
I thought that when i test drove them both back to back.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 16:44
Not so bland when at the fuel pump :grin:

If red stripes float your boat then your easly satisfied!!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FamilyDub on 04 June 2010, 16:46
Not so bland when at the fuel pump :grin:

If red stripes float your boat then your easly satisfied!!

 :tongue:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: mds69 on 04 June 2010, 17:00
Bring on the hate mail :wink:

Don't be silly - seems to be mostly one way!  As a GTD owner I'd mostly agree with you...it is all relative though, GTD is hardly a SEAT is it?  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 17:07
I walked past a parked GTD this morning while taking the kids to l'école. I noticed it because it was exactly the same spec' as my GTI: 5-door, carbon grey, cloth seats, etc. but it looked so dull and bland without the red bits (front grill inserts & cloth seats). They are such small additions, but boy, do they make a difference!
Bring on the hate mail :wink:

Absolute nonsense. And you know it.
Stop being so attention grabbing.
You must be so bored.
As for the red lipstick on the GTi, some say it looks cheap and tarty!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: mac7 on 04 June 2010, 17:10
I think the GTD looks classier than the GTI thanks to the lack of the red stripes. However, I'm afraid the class goes straight out the window the moment you turn the key...  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 17:18
I think the GTD looks classier than the GTI thanks to the lack of the red stripes. However, I'm afraid the class goes straight out the window the moment you turn the key...  :lipsrsealed:

They are so right when they say, 'You are what you eat'.
Yes, I would hate to sit next to someone who has lots of beans in their diet!
But then again, beans are economical and full of goodness! :laugh:

Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Horney on 04 June 2010, 17:18
I think the GTD looks classier than the GTI thanks to the lack of the red stripes. However, I'm afraid the class goes straight out the window the moment you turn the key...  :lipsrsealed:

Does the MKVI GTI not sound like a Derv then? The MKV's sure do.

Nick
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Keithuk on 04 June 2010, 17:20
I think the GTD looks classier than the GTI thanks to the lack of the red stripes.
Well I don't like the honeycomb style as its a pain to clean properly.  :wink:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: PenguinGTI on 04 June 2010, 17:32
I like to put it this way...

The GTI is fresh orange juice.

The GTD is diluting orange juice.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 17:34
Does the MKVI GTI not sound like a Derv then? The MKV's sure do.
Nick

Mine is as very smooth and quiet, both inside and outside. Yummy! :smug:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 04 June 2010, 17:40
As for the red lipstick on the GTi, some say it looks cheap and tarty!

LMAO, so what do people say about red paint all over the bodywork, then? :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 17:49
As for the red lipstick on the GTi, some say it looks cheap and tarty!

LMAO, so what do people say about red paint all over the bodywork, then? :grin:

Frog your off your head :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 04 June 2010, 18:43
Frog your off your head :rolleyes:

It's the heat, 31° here today :kiss:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 19:00
Froggy: You're tits up!
Red and white, they are so right.
Black and grey, no fcuking way!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: VWKev on 04 June 2010, 19:15
I like the GTD, I just dont like the smog. But as a car it really should be a petrol, oh yeah, it would be a GTI then :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 19:24
I like the GTD, I just dont like the smog. But as a car it really should be a petrol, oh yeah, it would be a GTI then :grin:
There is no smog at all , its just so clean, infact its cleaner than a GTI :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 19:30
There is no smog at all , its just so clean, infact its cleaner than a GTI :grin:

Steve: Even though I have a GTi, in the real world the GTD+DSG is superb and rules. I have driven one and I loved it. :smiley:
Petrol in London, pah!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 19:57
Just some lightweights on here who have never driven the Gtd, who don't have a Danny la ru :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 20:01
Just some lightweights on here who have never driven the Gtd, who don't have a Danny la ru :grin:

+1 :smiley:
'Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise'.
And that's that!
Enough said.

This is a really sh!tty and vile thread. :sick:
I refuse to be bothered with this crap anymore. :angry:
I am p!ssed off with this horsesh!t as it is no longer funny. :sick: :angry:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: andykram on 04 June 2010, 20:11
I'm sure the GTD's a cracking car but I didn't buy one
(a) because it's a diesel and, therefore, is a tractor (the wife's car is a diesel so I do know!!!)
(b) because I was having a mid-life crisis and a GTD just doesn't pull the heart strings like a GTi does
(c) the two GT TDi Mk4s I had were the most unreliable cars I've ever owned. By a country mile. So I'm very very suspicious of VW diesels
(d) and, er, the GTD didn't turn up at the dealers until the time I was picking my GTi up last July. So I couldn't have bought one anyway.

Suffice to say I have absolutely NO regrets whatsoever about buying the GTi, despite my doing a 60 mile a day commute.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 04 June 2010, 20:18
I'm sure the GTD's a cracking car but I didn't buy one
(a) because it's a diesel and, therefore, is a tractor (the wife's car is a diesel so I do know!!!)
(b) because I was having a mid-life crisis and a GTD just doesn't pull the heart strings like a GTi does
(c) the two GT TDi Mk4s I had were the most unreliable cars I've ever owned. By a country mile. So I'm very very suspicious of VW diesels
(d) and, er, the GTD didn't turn up at the dealers until the time I was picking my GTi up last July. So I couldn't have bought one anyway.
Suffice to say I have absolutely NO regrets whatsoever about buying the GTi, despite my doing a 60 mile a day commute.



THE THREAD SAYS THE GTD 'LOOKS' BLAND!

ALL OF YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT!

GOODBYE!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 20:19
Andykram , have you driven the new gtd?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: VWKev on 04 June 2010, 20:48
I like the GTD, I just dont like the smog. But as a car it really should be a petrol, oh yeah, it would be a GTI then :grin:
There is no smog at all , its just so clean, infact its cleaner than a GTI :grin:

It probably is  :laugh: I'm detailing mine again tomorrow, its a little dirty b!tch right now.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Saint Steve on 04 June 2010, 21:02
There is no smog at all , its just so clean, infact its cleaner than a GTI :grin:

Steve: Even though I have a GTi, in the real world the GTD+DSG is superb and rules. I have driven one and I loved it. :smiley:
Petrol in London, pah!

He's right. GTD+ dsg is a superb package. Will hold its value very well in the coming years and will be quite sort after.

Great car and loved the one i tested.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 21:19
Great car and loved the one i tested.
 
^^^^ This is what I want to hear about the GTD , why are people on the forum so negative about the GTD??

We are talking about a mega car here with DSG it is an outstanding motor, I keep saying this dont mock it till you try it!! :smug:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: AlanH on 04 June 2010, 22:08
Just ignore the trolls. Most of them are probably unaware that petrol and diesel both come out of the same hole in the ground.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 04 June 2010, 22:11
Just ignore the trolls. Most of them are probably unaware that petrol and diesel both come out of the same hole in the ground.

Oh yea , I forgot that :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Sam on 05 June 2010, 00:49
GTD =

(http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070612/070612_bland_vmed_4p.widec.jpg)

GTI =

(http://www.beerorkid.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/dog-pee-upside-down.jpg)

Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: VWKev on 05 June 2010, 00:59
Just ignore the trolls. Most of them are probably unaware that petrol and diesel both come out of the same hole in the ground.

Yeah and you talk out that hole in your arse, thats something we cant do anything about either unfortunately.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 05 June 2010, 11:51
Wow, sorry for rockin' the boat.

I'm not saying the GTD is a bad car - in fact, when I have a long motorway blast ahead of me, I wish I had the D and not the I - all I was saying is that the particular carbon grey model I saw yesterday looked very bland without the red trim. Obviously, CG is not the best colour for the GTD. White or red suit it a lot better.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: andykram on 05 June 2010, 11:54
No I haven't driven it Steve. It came out after I got my GTi so I haven't had the need to yet.
Like I said I'm not doubting it's a fantastic car and I could quite easily see me buying one in the future if fuel costs keep going mad.
However, the two key points for me were my personal experience with VW diesels in the past (they were that bad I vowed I would never buy another) and the heart strings aspect of the mid life crisis. I'm afraid a diesel was never going to satisfy those pangs.
As for it looking bland, I think it does look bland compared to the GTi but (in my humble opinion) that's all down to the alloys. If you stuck some Monzas on it now that'd be a different kettle of fish (remember I'm a huge fan of the Monzas and know this is a subjective opinion).
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 05 June 2010, 12:10
I cannot see how not having a red trim turns a car from not bland to bland  :undecided:
I guess i may have a different understanding of the word bland. I find the mk6 golf a designed by comitee bland eurobox anyway just its the best of the bad bunch.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: stupot on 05 June 2010, 16:54
I walked past a parked GTD this morning while taking the kids to l'école. I noticed it because it was exactly the same spec' as my GTI: 5-door, carbon grey, cloth seats, etc. but it looked so dull and bland without the red bits (front grill inserts & cloth seats). They are such small additions, but boy, do they make a difference!

Bring on the hate mail :wink:

It's all in the detail. I think the gti really needs the jacky cloth seats to set it off. I test drove a gti with leather  and it just didn't inspire me at all, never mind 'normal' cloth -  are the gtd seats recaros, like the gti?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 16:57
I walked past a parked GTD this morning while taking the kids to l'école. I noticed it because it was exactly the same spec' as my GTI: 5-door, carbon grey, cloth seats, etc. but it looked so dull and bland without the red bits (front grill inserts & cloth seats). They are such small additions, but boy, do they make a difference!

Bring on the hate mail :wink:
yes they are, everthing is the same as the GTI without the red stripes & Monza's also the diesel engine :wink:

It's all in the detail. I think the gti really needs the jacky cloth seats to set it off. I test drove a gti with leather  and it just didn't inspire me at all, never mind 'normal' cloth -  are the gtd seats recaros, like the gti?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 05 June 2010, 16:59
It's all in the detail. I think the gti really needs the jacky cloth seats to set it off. I test drove a gti with leather  and it just didn't inspire me at all, never mind 'normal' cloth -  are the gtd seats recaros, like the gti?

The GTD and GTi have exactly the same seats etc.
The only difference apart from the engine, are the 18" wheels you can spec and the bars on the front grille which for the GTD are chrome rather than red as for the GTi.
Even though I have a GTi, I love the GTD with DSG gearbox a bit more! It is a superb car and brilliant as an all purpose transportion tool.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 05 June 2010, 17:00
Snap Steve! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 17:01
No I haven't driven it Steve. It came out after I got my GTi so I haven't had the need to yet.
Like I said I'm not doubting it's a fantastic car and I could quite easily see me buying one in the future if fuel costs keep going mad.
However, the two key points for me were my personal experience with VW diesels in the past (they were that bad I vowed I would never buy another) and the heart strings aspect of the mid life crisis. I'm afraid a diesel was never going to satisfy those pangs.
As for it looking bland, I think it does look bland compared to the GTi but (in my humble opinion) that's all down to the alloys. If you stuck some Monzas on it now that'd be a different kettle of fish (remember I'm a huge fan of the Monzas and know this is a subjective opinion).
The thing is Andy , to me this is useless thread becuse a lot people on here slate the car without even testing the a GTD. I have had many GTI's inc an Ed30, belive me the GTD is up there mate with GTI go and test one and get back to me with a PM?? :cool:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Hartside on 05 June 2010, 17:06
I test drove the GTD before making my decision to go with the GTI. My experience was that it was a cracking car and drove superbly. The only reason I didn't get one was due to my short distances to work and back, and the potential problems with DPF and EGR valve as a result of this. I've owned two diesels, a Civic 2.2 and my current Alfa GT, so no axe to grind here. GTI/GTD - both cracking motors, think yourself lucky to own one or the other  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 17:09
I test drove the GTD before making my decision to go with the GTI. My experience was that it was a cracking car and drove superbly. The only reason I didn't get one was due to my short distances to work and back, and the potential problems with DPF and EGR valve as a result of this. I've owned two diesels, a Civic 2.2 and my current Alfa GT, so no axe to grind here. GTI/GTD - both cracking motors, think yourself lucky to own one or the other  :smiley:

I dont know of any probelms DPF and EGR valves these are mk5 problems?? And yes I am lucky I chose the right motor!! :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 05 June 2010, 17:36
I dont know of any probelms DPF and EGR valves these are mk5 problems?? And yes I am lucky I chose the right motor!! :grin:
I think it talks about it in the manual/broucher. The mk6 does not suffer as bad as the mk5 as VW have comented as such in magazine letter replies but its still an issue with DPF. I even think i posted about it when you were trying to decide about the GTD.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 17:43
I dont know of any probelms DPF and EGR valves these are mk5 problems?? And yes I am lucky I chose the right motor!! :grin:
I think it talks about it in the manual/broucher. The mk6 does not suffer as bad as the mk5 as VW have comented as such in magazine letter replies but its still an issue with DPF. I even think i posted about it when you were trying to decide about the GTD.

Can you expand a bit on the DPF snoops?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 05 June 2010, 17:58
Page 274 of the manual iirc it says to not just use for short jouneys. What use to happen is it collects the soot particals. If you did not do a more or less constant speed iirc they use to reccomend 40mph for 15 miles every so often the DPF use to block and you had to get the dealer to clean it. I think its better on the mk6 new engine and does not need such a long journey to clear it but cars fitted with DPF need a run out every so often to clean out the DPF or it blocks.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Hartside on 05 June 2010, 18:06
Agreed, dealer even commented on it when I was test driving the GTD. Luckily my Civic and Alfa GT were/are non DPF cars, which is why I picked them. I keep the Alfa running sweet from an EGR valve point of view with Millers Diesel Power Sport 4, which seems to do the trick

DPF's regen when they soot up which causes loss of power and a bit of smoking through the exhaust. In normal distance running this is minimised. As Snoopy says, if they block, then it's a dealer fix/clean 
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 18:21
Er your both wrong!! There is no DPF filter on my car, I checked this out before I bought it ! This is mk5 issue.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 18:23
Page 274 of the manual iirc it says to not just use for short jouneys. What use to happen is it collects the soot particals. If you did not do a more or less constant speed iirc they use to reccomend 40mph for 15 miles every so often the DPF use to block and you had to get the dealer to clean it. I think its better on the mk6 new engine and does not need such a long journey to clear it but cars fitted with DPF need a run out every so often to clean out the DPF or it blocks.

er snoops , I don't have page 274 in the manual just checked it now and there is no dpf filter?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Hartside on 05 June 2010, 18:27
Think you'll find it has:

Engines
– Front transverse-installed engine
– 2.0 litre/170 PS (01) (125 kW) common rail diesel engine. EU4 emissions standard (EU5 compliant),
four cylinder in-line engine, four valves per cylinder, aluminium-silicon alloy cylinder head, toothed
backlash compensator, intake manifold with electric continual tumble flap control, electronically
controlled common rail direct injection system with Bosch high pressure pump (up to 1800 bar)
and 8-hole piezo injector units, pre-supply electronic fuel pump, oil cooler, intercooler, exhaust gas
recirculation, additional coolant pump, turbocharger with variable turbine geometry, catalytic
converter and Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

Excerpt from the VW GTD brochure. DPF's became the norm for Euro5 compliancy
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 05 June 2010, 18:35
DPF's became the norm for Euro5 compliancy

+1
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: gooseuk on 05 June 2010, 18:48
Dpf are one most diesels.

I have a 56 plate fr seat and has dpf.

Been looking at getting a dpf delete but its rather pricey.

As for the whole diesel hatred thing each person like what they like. For me diesel is the only option right now unless i am lucky enough to get a closer job.

I prefar my 50mpg to 25mpg thats one good thing about the diesels lol
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 05 June 2010, 18:54
Er your both wrong!! There is no DPF filter on my car, I checked this out before I bought it ! This is mk5 issue.
http://cdn.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/common/pdf/brochures/golf-gtd-brochure.pdf
Page 9 under engine.
edit: basically the bit hartside quoted  :grin:

er snoops , I don't have page 274 in the manual just checked it now and there is no dpf filter?
You may have the ring binder manual i think its different to the newer one i have but mine is only for the GTD & GTI.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 18:58
Not the case on the mk6, you don't need to be clearing any filter!! Belive me I looked into this before I bought the car!!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 05 June 2010, 19:02
As i said it depends how you use the car if you just potter about like an old women and use it for very short trips to the local shops etc or in city then they maybe an issue. VW and audi have said as much in one of the magazine replies as a customer asked about it on one of the many Uk islands that have a blanket 40mph speed limit. If you give it a blast every so often thats a different matter.

Just done a search to try and find a link that explains DPF abit better.
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuels-and-environment/diesel-particulate-filters.html

Im not going to tell you what the additive they use is as you will think im taking the piss :evil:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 05 June 2010, 19:20
As i said it depends how you use the car if you just potter about like an old women and use it for very short trips to the local shops etc or in city then they maybe an issue. VW and audi have said as much in one of the magazine replies as a customer asked about it on one of the many Uk islands that have a blanket 40mph speed limit. If you give it a blast every so often thats a different matter.
Just done a search to try and find a link that explains DPF abit better.
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/fuels-and-environment/diesel-particulate-filters.html
Im not going to tell you what the additive they use is as you will think im taking the piss :evil:

Jersey and Audi were having a problem.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: AlanD on 05 June 2010, 19:34
Bland is waaaay too harsh a word.

The GTDs are lovely looking motors imo. However the dual exhaust on opposite side of the GTI really make it stand out from the rear compared to the rest of the Golf range i.e GTD.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 05 June 2010, 19:37
Bland is waaaay too harsh a word.
The GTDs are lovely looking motors imo. However the dual exhaust on opposite side of the GTI really make it stand out from the rear compared to the rest of the Golf range i.e GTD.

However, if you are a lazy bugger, the exhausts close together require less movement when their exit nozzles need cleaning. :tongue: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: AlanD on 05 June 2010, 19:40
You are one lazy bast@rd ! :D
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 05 June 2010, 19:44
You are one lazy bast@rd ! :D

Believe me, I can't even blow or suck on a baloon! :wink:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: evo1986 on 05 June 2010, 20:23
I do a 1.5 mile journey through Cheltenham to work every day in my gtd the dpf light has never come on. Not so much an issue now with the cr engines.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 05 June 2010, 20:49
I do a 1.5 mile journey through Cheltenham to work every day in my gtd the dpf light has never come on. Not so much an issue now with the cr engines.

Thank Fook for that :grin:

Evo when is VW bringing out a twin Turbo diesel? Reason being i want one now!!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 05 June 2010, 22:05
Evo when is VW bringing out a twin Turbo diesel? Reason being i want one now!!

That's my next car! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Hartside on 06 June 2010, 01:17
Quote
Not so much an issue now with the cr engines.


VW are one of the last to go over to CR. It's an issue on most diesels that do short distance. CR or not

Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Hartside on 06 June 2010, 01:28
Quote
Not the case on the mk6, you don't need to be clearing any filter!! Belive me I looked into this before I bought the car

Whether you like it or not you have a DPF.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 06 June 2010, 08:22
Quote
Not the case on the mk6, you don't need to be clearing any filter!! Belive me I looked into this before I bought the car

Whether you like it or not you have a DPF.

Hartside the point is, you dont need to be  clearing that filter!!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 09:35
Well, I never..... So much discussion on a supposedly 'bland' car and completely off topic. Scare mongers. They had to pick on something. Strange that. :rolleyes: :wink:

PS: I'm going to make my red GTi 'bland' by changing the red front grille bars to chrome. :evil: :rolleyes:

PPS: On second thought, I'll keep one red and change one to chrome. Top or bottom? :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 06 June 2010, 09:44
Well, I never..... So much discussion on a supposedly 'bland' car and completely off topic. Scare mongers. They had to pick on something. Strange that. :rolleyes: :wink:

PS: I'm going to make my red GTi 'bland' by changing the red front grille bars to chrome. :evil: :rolleyes:

Brilliant move that one!! :smug:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 09:48
 :laugh:
Hi Steve. Good morning.
Off to the garage for a big wash now. Hope it all goes well.
Speak later.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 06 June 2010, 09:52
Quote
Not the case on the mk6, you don't need to be clearing any filter!! Belive me I looked into this before I bought the car

Whether you like it or not you have a DPF.

Hartside the point is, you dont need to be  clearing that filter!!
I don't think anyone said you have to clean the filter. The car does it every so often itself by injecting a solution (Im still not going to say what it is  :grin: ) BUT certain conditions need to be met before and during this procedure so the DPF self clears as said on the AA page i linked too to help explain it better and a get out of jail free version by VW thats stated in the manual, in my 2010 GTD/GTI manual anyway. :grin:

Well, I never..... So much discussion on a supposedly 'bland' car and completely off topic. Scare mongers. They had to pick on something. Strange that. :rolleyes: :wink:
As you know i like the GTD alot so im not scare mongering im pointing out things owners should know. If you want to know the real reason VW were last to go over to common rail. Do a search on who own the paterns for common rail technologies and licience it out (not by wikipedia as its wrong :wink: ) Then do a search for the court case on narrow angle V engine copyrights.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 10:18
Well, I never..... So much discussion on a supposedly 'bland' car and completely off topic. Scare mongers. They had to pick on something. Strange that. :rolleyes: :wink:
As you know i like the GTD alot so im not scare mongering im pointing out things owners should know. If you want to know the real reason VW were last to go over to common rail. Do a search on who own the paterns for common rail technologies and licience it out (not by wikipedia as its wrong :wink: ) Then do a search for the court case on narrow angle V engine copyrights.

I know you were not, so sorry it appeared that way. If it seemed that I was targeting you in particular, please accept my apologies. I promise I was not.
Just have to give justifiable support to our GTD friends as they take so much stick from GTi owners.
I really love the GTD+DSG. Marvellous car.
 :smiley:

Off to wash Wolfgang but had to respond to you! Very important to do so! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 06 June 2010, 10:24
Im not a fan of the disaster struck gearbox but i do like the GTD a hell of a lot, i think i have even said more than once i should have really gone for the GTD if im truthful as its more my driving style now. (have been driving a VW TDi as a daily for the past few years anyway) and i also think the grey interior of the GTD is more in keeping with the series 2 mk1 GTIs grey stripped interior .I will admit the only reason i went GTI was i wanted another GTI to go with the mk1. Sad reason really, my hart ruled my head just :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 11:38
Im not a fan of the disaster struck gearbox but i do like the GTD a hell of a lot, i think i have even said more than once i should have really gone for the GTD if im truthful as its more my driving style now. (have been driving a VW TDi as a daily for the past few years anyway) and i also think the grey interior of the GTD is more in keeping with the series 2 mk1 GTIs grey stripped interior .I will admit the only reason i went GTI was i wanted another GTI to go with the mk1. Sad reason really, my hart ruled my head just :grin:

Head did rule a bit as you did not buy one of 'those stupid overweight, numb, bloated VR6/R32/R models'! :wink:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 06 June 2010, 11:49
Head did rule a bit as you did not buy one of 'those stupid overweight, numb, bloated VR6/R32/R models! :wink:
For what i use a car for and how i drive it would be pointless to own one anyway and when i look at the history of the V/VR and what VW have had to do because of them i would not on principle.

On topic.
I think personally i like a few of the GTD styling tweeks over the GTI's I like the more discrete rear exhausts, more in keeping with the GTI history, i like the grey on grey interior over the red bits, i use to like the vancover alloys better. I think the silver grill looks better on certain colours than the red.
I just found it a shame VW did not bring the GTD out with the twin turbo DI with say 210PS the same PS as the GTI. They may have started another cult car if they had.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Hartside on 06 June 2010, 11:49
Quote
Well, I never..... So much discussion on a supposedly 'bland' car and completely off topic. Scare mongers. They had to pick on something. Strange that

What a strange thing to say. It was on my shopping list as I could have fancied a GTD. As stated in an earlier post my last two cars ( and present one) have been diesels, so no axe to grind from me on that front. As I said previously DPF and EGR valve were my reasons for not getting the GTD and something people should be aware off as a potential issue

And back to topic if it's a problem for you.............I don't think it looks bland, it looks pretty good in my opinion
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: andykram on 06 June 2010, 12:23
I've had DPF and EGR problems in my diesel Saabs over the last few years. And the Mk4 diesel Golfs I had were just s***. Totally unreliable and those engines (the PDs) didn't have these DPFs and what not so were supposedly more reliable.
But as I've said, the GTD is highly likely to be at the top of my shopping list in three years purely for the fuel saving costs on a 60 mile a day commute. I'll just keep the Mk 2 for the heart strings issue!!!
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 13:03
I seriously feel that chrome grille bars on a red car will look better. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 06 June 2010, 15:13
I seriously feel that chrome grille bars on a red car will look better. :smiley:

I make you right, would look very nice me thinks!! :smug:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Saint Steve on 06 June 2010, 16:45
Im not a fan of the disaster struck gearbox but i do like the GTD a hell of a lot, i think i have even said more than once i should have really gone for the GTD if im truthful as its more my driving style now. (have been driving a VW TDi as a daily for the past few years anyway) and i also think the grey interior of the GTD is more in keeping with the series 2 mk1 GTIs grey stripped interior .I will admit the only reason i went GTI was i wanted another GTI to go with the mk1. Sad reason really, my hart ruled my head just :grin:

as against the number of Clutch and Dual mass flywheel failures on the manual cars   :evil::laugh:

Not really true your statement Snoops.

Dsg is more reliable when compared to the very weak clutch and flywheel issues currently on the manual cars.

Twin clutch is the future  :smiley:



Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 06 June 2010, 17:35
I just calling it what VW's own DSTs call it  :tongue:

The other its known as is Does'nt Select Gears box.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 06 June 2010, 17:38
I just calling it what VW's own DSTs call it  :tongue:

Snoopy what are these additives you were talking about?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: SteveP on 06 June 2010, 19:04
I will admit the only reason i went GTI was i wanted another GTI to go with the mk1. Sad reason really, my hart ruled my head just :grin:

Your not the only one  :grin:

I have a Mk2 GTI that I restored from this: -

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/MK2GTI/IMG_0806.jpg)

to this over the past 18 months

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/IMG_3009.jpg)

This made me feel more compled to buy another GTI when my Mk5 needed replacing  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: rjwojcik on 06 June 2010, 22:22
Very nice, Mr P
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 22:32
Very nice, Mr P

You don't seem to own a car. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: rjwojcik on 06 June 2010, 22:50
Very nice, Mr P

You don't seem to own a car. :rolleyes:

Don't ask... Was almost there :sad: but cancelled due to loosing my job.  Ironically, had VW delivered when they promised to (circa Nov 2009) then I'd probably still have it now.  I still enjoy the banter and for keeping up to date with developments (from my arm chair for the time being).
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 06 June 2010, 22:54
Very nice, Mr P
You don't seem to own a car. :rolleyes:
Don't ask... Was almost there :sad: but cancelled due to loosing my job.  Ironically, had VW delivered when they promised to (circa Nov 2009) then I'd probably still have it now.  I still enjoy the banter and for keeping up to date with developments (from my arm chair for the time being).

My sincere apologies for being nosey and causing you to reveal such uncomfortable news. :embarassed:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Spooner on 07 June 2010, 11:38
I followed a white GTD home a few months ago, it turned off into a street just round the corner from me.  The owner had debadged it, but I knew what it was from the exhaust placement on the rear.

My mate phoned me the other day to say that he was doing a job round the corner and had just spotted his first Golf R. 

"It looks just like your's except for the R badge on the grill"

I got my mate to take a look at the steering wheel - "It's got GTD on it" he says

I laughed!
 :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 07 June 2010, 11:54
I followed a white GTD home a few months ago, it turned off into a street just round the corner from me.  The owner had debadged it, but I knew what it was from the exhaust placement on the rear.
My mate phoned me the other day to say that he was doing a job round the corner and had just spotted his first Golf R. 
"It looks just like your's except for the R badge on the grill"
I got my mate to take a look at the steering wheel - "It's got GTD on it" he says
I laughed!
 :grin: :laugh:

Simply brilliant! Silly sod.
He should be proud he has a GTD. But I hope he had DSG with it. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: mds69 on 07 June 2010, 11:57
Snoopy what are these additives you were talking about?

I think he was talking about the adBlue stuff they have to fit to meet the American emissions standards...

The DPFs over here just incinerate the soot I think.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: AlanD on 07 June 2010, 11:59
BTW how sexy is that MK2 ! :cool:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: R32UK on 07 June 2010, 16:06
nothing bad to say about the GTD... but getting a very respectable 41mpg on a 400mile round trip this weekend, I dont really see the point of a GTD for myself. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 07 June 2010, 16:26
nothing bad to say about the GTD... but getting a very respectable 41mpg on a 400mile round trip this weekend, I dont really see the point of a GTD for myself. :smiley:

Well I can get almost 600 miles from mine!!  :grin:Where were you this weekend?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: R32UK on 07 June 2010, 17:16
nothing bad to say about the GTD... but getting a very respectable 41mpg on a 400mile round trip this weekend, I dont really see the point of a GTD for myself. :smiley:

Well I can get almost 600 miles from mine!!  :grin:Where were you this weekend?


600 miles is quite impressive... only it takes you twice as long to get there  :tongue:

was in N. London Steve... but unfortunately didnt get a spare minute as it was a friends wedding. Will be back down again within a few weeks though :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: AlanD on 07 June 2010, 17:17
Now now Steve, play nice. Lets not mislead here. To get 600 to a tank you would have to drive slower than a granny would you not?
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 07 June 2010, 17:30
Now now Steve, play nice. Lets not mislead here. To get 600 to a tank you would have to drive slower than a granny would you not?

It can be done Alan, but at 50mph :drool:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 07 June 2010, 17:34
nothing bad to say about the GTD... but getting a very respectable 41mpg on a 400mile round trip this weekend, I dont really see the point of a GTD for myself. :smiley:

Well I can get almost 600 miles from mine!!  :grin:Where were you this weekend?


600 miles is quite impressive... only it takes you twice as long to get there  :tongue:

was in N. London Steve... but unfortunately didnt get a spare minute as it was a friends wedding. Will be back down again within a few weeks though :wink: :smiley:

No problems mate :cool:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 07 June 2010, 17:36
I know you guy's on the forum just love the GTD in your hearts!!

I thank the frog for this thread its turned into really intresting one :evil:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 07 June 2010, 17:47
Can I suggest we lobby VW to get them to make a GTID, basically a car with TWO engines, one diesel and one petrol (no girly electric hybrid cr@p for the moment, thank you very much :smiley:).

Then we could switch between the two depending on what mood we were in and, if we were feeling particularly frisky, we could switch both on at the same time :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 07 June 2010, 17:53
Twin turbo diesel should do it!! :drool:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 07 June 2010, 18:02
Twin turbo diesel should do it!! :drool:

I would go for that in an instant... IF they could do something about the noise of a diesel AND make it RWD so that we could actually use all the torque.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 07 June 2010, 18:04
Twin turbo diesel should do it!! :drool:

I would go for that in an instant... IF they could do something about the noise of a diesel AND make it RWD so that we could actually use all the torque.

AWD would be better for the torque :wink:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 07 June 2010, 19:35
Ten pages of posts for a 'bland car! :rolleyes:
Just shows how 'bloand' everyone is! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: avalon on 09 June 2010, 17:16
 .... and that'll be with both manual and DSG boxes too  :wink:




Ava
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 09 June 2010, 18:25
I like to put it this way...

The GTI is fresh orange juice.

The GTD is diluting orange juice.

....... :smiley:  :wink:  :grin: top man.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 09 June 2010, 18:28
I like to put it this way...

The GTI is fresh orange juice.

The GTD is diluting orange juice.

....... :smiley:  :wink:  :grin: top man.

Rubbish and loads of it :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: ajmoir36 on 09 June 2010, 19:06
Whole bunch of tosh, they both look virtually identical (exhaust and red bits difference).  Although I have to admit having a red one with red bits might be red overkill.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: PenguinGTI on 09 June 2010, 23:01
Tbh honest the only real difference between the GTI and the GTD is the red tape... not the red stiching. Both are fantastic cars. What could be interesting is if they brough out an RD (hope you like what I did there  :wink:)
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 13 June 2010, 07:58
(http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/Rolex62/GTDdetailed-1-2.jpg)
(http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/Rolex62/Golf-1.jpg)

Does it still look bland??
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 13 June 2010, 08:07
Love those wheels and it does look better in white. It's crying out for R LED rear lights, though. Come on, Steve, get you wallet out :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: R32UK on 13 June 2010, 08:45
Love those wheels and it does look better in white. It's crying out for R LED rear lights, though. Come on, Steve, get you wallet out :grin:

+1

I actually think it looks better from behind than the GTI. Change to the R rears and silver/grey strips on the front to red and there we would have a very nice GTI/D
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 13 June 2010, 09:38
Steve: Looks pretty as a virgin on her wedding night. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Snoopy on 13 June 2010, 09:49
Does it still look bland??
not a fan of white but i really don't know what people are on about when comparing it to the GTI  :undecided: Theres little to nothing in it  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 13 June 2010, 09:51
Does it still look bland??
not a fan of white but i really don't know what people are on about when comparing it to the GTI  :undecided: Theres little to nothing in it  :undecided:

Talking out of their poop hole, me thinks! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: FroGTI on 13 June 2010, 16:32
i really don't know what people are on about when comparing it to the GTI  :undecided: Theres little to nothing in it  :undecided:

I know the red bits are subtle, but I really do think they make a difference. The same could be said about the MkV > Mk6 Golf: the only noticeable differences on the outside are the nose and the rear lights, but the Mk 6 is the first Golf I have actually liked since the Mk 1. All models in between lokked plain and stodgy to me. And that's why I never bought them.
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: PenguinGTI on 13 June 2010, 21:25
(http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/Rolex62/GTDdetailed-1-2.jpg)
(http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz206/Rolex62/Golf-1.jpg)

Does it still look bland??

I don't mean to have a go here Steve but I can't help but notice that both your photos are taken at such an angle as to avoid both GTD badges  :grin:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 13 June 2010, 21:50
Ha ha ha !! Wasn't done on purpose, trust me proud to own a Gtd :smug:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: am1w on 13 June 2010, 21:58
Penguin: God you are keen. How is Le Mans?
His angle is to hide the number plate, me thinks. :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTD looks bland
Post by: Steve30 on 13 June 2010, 22:30
Yes your right , didn't want to be cloned :smug: