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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: spencer30 on 02 May 2009, 11:54
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
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the diesel sound is very common but you certainly shouldn't be able to hear it from the inside of the car. I'd get a specialist or a vag dealer to give it a check over to see if everything is okay
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I've just spoken to a helpful VW dealership and they said "we get a lot of complaints, but it is absolutely normal, its the high pressure fuel pump"....Gutted, i'm not sure i can put up with it!!
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I've just spoken to a helpful VW dealership and they said "we get a lot of complaints, but it is absolutely normal, its the high pressure fuel pump"....Gutted, i'm not sure i can put up with it!!
Oh how I would love to suggest something.......... :evil:
but i do have a sneaky feeling that you might know what I am going to say :lipsrsealed: :grin:
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R32? no chance. Been there and done that.
Conclusion - lovely sounding car, lots of grip in the wet. Downsides - too thirsty and actually not that quick. Changed my R32 (Mk5 with Milltek) to an E46 M3 a few years ago - same fuel consumption, just as refined but much much faster.
I get your point though, no diesel clatter!!
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Fair point.... M3 are a totally different kettle of fish tbh. Strangely enough they dont sound too great at full throttle :undecided:
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Yeah its a sort of metallic rasp the M3s make when nailed, bit of a marmite noise, some love it, some loathe it.
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They do sound like a diesel on start up but mine sounds very quiet on tick over, tho 95% always use super unleaded.
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what fuel are you using?I always use Shell V power and my engine is really quiet on tickover
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ASk the dealers whether you can try and sit in and listen to the tickover of a mk5. If it's different to yours, you know there's something wrong with the car.
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I've just spoken to a helpful VW dealership and they said "we get a lot of complaints, but it is absolutely normal, its the high pressure fuel pump"....Gutted, i'm not sure i can put up with it!!
Sh*t and I'm buying a diesel Touareg :shocked:
Cass
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You want one of these mate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PUd1IBjLvQ&feature=related
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
I'm in exactly the same situation, picked up a 06 GTi 3 weeks ago and it sounds like a bag of bolts at idle (esp inside) even when the engine at operating temp. I have been checking the oil every other day and its spot on but even so as the warranty is due up in a couple of weeks I gonna take it to my local independant for a going over before dropping round to dealers.
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
I'm in exactly the same situation, picked up a 06 GTi 3 weeks ago and it sounds like a bag of bolts at idle (esp inside) even when the engine at operating temp. I have been checking the oil every other day and its spot on but even so as the warranty is due up in a couple of weeks I gonna take it to my local independant for a going over before dropping round to dealers.
Do you get the same noise when the engine is cold, or just when up to temp. Mine is is nice and quiet when cold and sounds like a Sh!te when warm.
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
I'm in exactly the same situation, picked up a 06 GTi 3 weeks ago and it sounds like a bag of bolts at idle (esp inside) even when the engine at operating temp. I have been checking the oil every other day and its spot on but even so as the warranty is due up in a couple of weeks I gonna take it to my local independant for a going over before dropping round to dealers.
Do you get the same noise when the engine is cold, or just when up to temp. Mine is is nice and quiet when cold and sounds like a Sh!te when warm.
Yes, from cold it sounds fine but as soon as it warms through it starts to sound like a tractor.
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You want one of these mate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PUd1IBjLvQ&feature=related
....Sounds glorious! I do like that zorst music!! :afro: :cool: :afro:
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
I'm in exactly the same situation, picked up a 06 GTi 3 weeks ago and it sounds like a bag of bolts at idle (esp inside) even when the engine at operating temp. I have been checking the oil every other day and its spot on but even so as the warranty is due up in a couple of weeks I gonna take it to my local independant for a going over before dropping round to dealers.
Do you get the same noise when the engine is cold, or just when up to temp. Mine is is nice and quiet when cold and sounds like a Sh!te when warm.
Yes, from cold it sounds fine but as soon as it warms through it starts to sound like a tractor.
Is your engine the AXX or BPY?
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Sounds to mer like you have the fuel line rattle....Get your head down near the pedals when the engine is running and let me know if it sounds louder in this area.
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
I'm in exactly the same situation, picked up a 06 GTi 3 weeks ago and it sounds like a bag of bolts at idle (esp inside) even when the engine at operating temp. I have been checking the oil every other day and its spot on but even so as the warranty is due up in a couple of weeks I gonna take it to my local independant for a going over before dropping round to dealers.
Is your engine the AXX or BPY?
Do you get the same noise when the engine is cold, or just when up to temp. Mine is is nice and quiet when cold and sounds like a Sh!te when warm.
Yes, from cold it sounds fine but as soon as it warms through it starts to sound like a tractor.
Yeah exactly that, fine from cold but sounds rubbish when its warm, if i sit there in neutral at idle it ticks constantly then if i raise the revs the ticking gets faster as the revs increase.
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Sounds to mer like you have the fuel line rattle....Get your head down near the pedals when the engine is running and let me know if it sounds louder in this area.
Its not that. Neither is it the purge valve which I thought it could be for a while. To me the sound is coming from the cam chain side of the engine. At first I thought it was the HPFP so I changed it for the APR item. It made no difference to the sound at all. I am starting to think it is the cam chain.
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Yes... it's not swine flu....you have the fuel line rattle illness.
This mod should actually be a dealer recall as nearly all Gti's suffer from the probem. Most dealers do not know of the problem or even the remedy, in the states they have sorted the problem through the dealer network.
Follow the instructions on the link but use stands as well as a jack to be safe.
http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18277&highlight=fuel+line+rattle+diy
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Good luck.....You will be amazed
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Yes... it's not swine flu....you have the fuel line rattle illness.
This mod should actually be a dealer recall as nearly all Gti's suffer from the probem. Most dealers do not know of the problem or even the remedy, in the states they have sorted the problem through the dealer network.
Follow the instructions on the link but use stands as well as a jack to be safe.
http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18277&highlight=fuel+line+rattle+diy
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Good luck.....You will be amazed
Like I said, it is not the fuel line rattle. I did that fix years ago.
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It's possible that it is the camchain. The last post on this page http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87509.0 is from someone who's had a new camchain and pulley because their engine was noisy.
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same fuel consumption, just as refined but much much faster.
:shocked: How did you manage 30mpg from the M3? I researched them as i was looking to buy but they were thousands more a year to own in running terms (servicing, parts etc) Decided i didnt want a car that meant i needed a few thousand in the bank for when (not if) something went wrong!
I find turbo engined cars are a little noisier mate, maybe you are just use to N/A engines?
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It's possible that it is the camchain. The last post on this page http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87509.0 is from someone who's had a new camchain and pulley because their engine was noisy.
....But the Mk5 GTI doesn't have a cam chain - It has a cam belt. A small point, I know, but we don't want to mislead others do we.
The new Mk6, aka Mk5.5, has a cam chain.
:afro:
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It's possible that it is the camchain. The last post on this page http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87509.0 is from someone who's had a new camchain and pulley because their engine was noisy.
....But the Mk5 GTI doesn't have a cam chain - It has a cam belt. A small point, I know, but we don't want to mislead others do we.
The new Mk6, aka Mk5.5, has a cam chain.
:afro:
Yes and no sort of
There is a cam chain as well RR. Its on the opposite side to the cam belt.
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Yes and no sort of
There is a cam chain as well RR. Its on the opposite side to the cam belt.
....Ah! I learn something new every day. I didn't know that - Thanks! :afro:
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Use mainly Tesco with the odd V-Power here and there and have had several people look at me with a funny face and ask if its a diesel :(
When you stand at the back all you can hear is the Miltek ticking over but standing at the front it really does sound like a smelly derv :(
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this thread makes me lol :laugh: :laugh:
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Didn't someone say that for the Gti to to work fully FSi it has to be run on mostly super unleaded!
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Yes and no neo. The FSI aspect of the engine only works for a certain amount of miles per tank. 98/98 RON fuel allows the engine to run more miles in FSI mode, is the long and short of it (or so I have read).
Rhyso, keep your sooty dirty nose out of this please :D
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Yes... it's not swine flu....you have the fuel line rattle illness.
This mod should actually be a dealer recall as nearly all Gti's suffer from the probem. Most dealers do not know of the problem or even the remedy, in the states they have sorted the problem through the dealer network.
Follow the instructions on the link but use stands as well as a jack to be safe.
http://golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18277&highlight=fuel+line+rattle+diy
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Good luck.....You will be amazed
Really Glad you posted this, i think mine has this issue, sounds like its on the dash but is much louder by the pedals, will be taking a look and fixing this weekend me thinks,
Something that is a bit odd is that it seemed to stop over the winter months but is back now, wierd things these Gti's at times, but i have to say down the B roads on the way to cornwall this weekend it made it all worth while :grin:
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I drove an Octavia VRS the other day, obviously with the same engine as you gentlemen. Has to be said that I thought it sounded terrible at idle, just like my diesel...! The GTI's that I have been in have all sounded similar (although not quite as bad as the Skoda!).
I must admit that it would drive me insane. At least mine is supposed to sound like sh!te....
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same fuel consumption, just as refined but much much faster.
:shocked: How did you manage 30mpg from the M3? I researched them as i was looking to buy but they were thousands more a year to own in running terms (servicing, parts etc) Decided i didnt want a car that meant i needed a few thousand in the bank for when (not if) something went wrong!
I find turbo engined cars are a little noisier mate, maybe you are just use to N/A engines?
Nope, i used to have an Mitsubishi Evo, and also a Leon Cupra R.
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Odd one then, doesnt sound right though!
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Its a 4-pot. All 4 cylinder engines sound rubbish :)
The GTI is nice on song though, and little things like the turbo dump valve noise add to its character.
The way it produces its power and handles outweighs the sound IMO.
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Its a 4-pot. All 4 cylinder engines sound rubbish :)
The GTI is nice on song though, and little things like the turbo dump valve noise add to its character.
The way it produces its power and handles outweighs the sound IMO.
....Agreed, but a Milltek exhaust does a heck of a lot to make the GTI sound better.
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I'm too old(boring) to be messing about with exhaust upgrades :)
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I'm too old(boring) to be messing about with exhaust upgrades :)
.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Do you know how old I am? - I'll let someone else here tell you.
A Milltek exhaust is without doubt the first mod I would do to any new performance car I had, regardless of whether I would continue with other mods or not. Most modern cars are over soundproofed and I consider hearing the engine of ANY vehicle I drive to be a driving aid, and that's without the consideration of the pure joy of hearing some good exhaust music.
I'm afraid that if you think you are too old, then I feel sorry for you - You are missing out.
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Yeah its a sort of metallic rasp the M3s make when nailed, bit of a marmite noise, some love it, some loathe it.
LOOOOOOOOOOVE IT! :evil:
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I'm too old(boring) to be messing about with exhaust upgrades :)
.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Do you know how old I am? - I'll let someone else here tell you.
A Milltek exhaust is without doubt the first mod I would do to any new performance car I had, regardless of whether I would continue with other mods or not. Most modern cars are over soundproofed and I consider hearing the engine of ANY vehicle I drive to be a driving aid, and that's without the consideration of the pure joy of hearing some good exhaust music.
I'm afraid that if you think you are too old, then I feel sorry for you - You are missing out.
I do :D
Oh I agree, engine sound in all cars is vitally important, especially to me - but you can't polish a turd! To get proper engine accoustics (IMO of course - sound/noise is subjective!) it has to be a 6-cyl engine and above, which I have had for the previous 7 years of car ownership. And without any fettling, sound infinitely better than any 4-cyl car with any kind of exhaust/induction changes.
The GTI is not a great sounding engine, its OK, but its real joy as I have said before is how it delivers its power, its handling and the way it does that all in a shell that oozes class and respectibility. The other day for example I was hooning around with my mate who has a Z4 Coupe 3.0si (a car that is much closer to my specification of my kind of car), and up to around 80-90mph there is absolutely nothing in it in performance, and in and out of bends its probably arguably quicker and more fun - and that fact put a smile on my face, if the sound of the car didnt :)
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I don't disagree :smiley:
My previous car was a BMW straight-six and any 4-pot is not the greatest but I have to say that mine is as good as it gets and many people comment on how nice she sounds.
I've got the new supercharged V6 S4 quattro to play with next week :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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I don't disagree :smiley:
My previous car was a BMW straight-six and any 4-pot is not the greatest but I have to say that mine is as good as it gets and many people comment on how nice she sounds.
I've got the new supercharged V6 S4 quattro to play with next week :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
You lucky %$^***&! :D
I am sure you can change my mind if and when our GTI's ever meet ;)
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who said all 4 pots sound sh!te? i wouldnt ever buy one myself but it has to be said that most scoobys sound amazing on idle and low revs imo :laugh: My gti sounds a bit tinny aswell on idle but ok once on the move and as someone else said the performance and noise once opened up outweigh the idle sound anyway my ctr sounded sh!te aswell on idle and when on the move lol
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OK 4-cyl BOXER engines are nice. Straight 4s.... no.
:)
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I see what you mean :evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6dPfQv6aLM&feature=related
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Sorry but subarus sound absolutely awful! Couldn't think of a more annoying and chavvy sound! :sick:
My CTR sounded good for a 4pot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_HwuOGl6I8
(but then it did need an exhaust :laugh: )
The only decent sounding engine i have heard under a V6 is the focus ST's engine.
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Sorry but subarus sound absolutely awful! Couldn't think of a more annoying and chavvy sound! :sick:
You are joking aren't you? :shocked:
Unless you mean the the chavs with straight through exhausts that you can hear a mile away.
My other half's Scoob sounds sweet, but its only a relatively quiet Prodrive system that burbles nicely. :cool:
Agree that the Focus ST sounds nice, though.
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Problem with the Scoobys is so many people have put glass shateringly loud exhausts on them they you start to think they are standard exhausts.
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^^ Scoobys sound AWFUL!!! Why would you want your car to sound like that all the time???? :huh:
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All these recent posts go to show is that, like colour, our individual appreciation of sound is different for each of us and is very subjective. It's well known that we each have different hearing capabilities - Some can't hear bass as well as they can higher frequencies etc etc.
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Scooby's were nice in the beginning - very different sounding car. Now I agree, when I hear one I cringe. It screams chav
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All these recent posts go to show is that, like colour, our individual appreciation of sound is different for each of us and is very subjective. It's well known that we each have different hearing capabilities - Some can't hear bass as well as they can higher frequencies etc etc.
Absolutely ;)
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^^ Scoobys sound AWFUL!!! Why would you want your car to sound like that all the time???? :huh:
You obviously have a very blinkered view. A non-chavved Scoob and an R32 sound pretty similar with a deep throaty roar when giving it some beans.
As opposed to the GTI which is a more high pitched scream, similar to the aforementioned M3.
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As I said in my previous post, a Miltek soon sorts that out.
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^^ Scoobys sound AWFUL!!! Why would you want your car to sound like that all the time???? :huh:
You obviously have a very blinkered view. A non-chavved Scoob and an R32 sound pretty similar with a deep throaty roar when giving it some beans.
As opposed to the GTI which is a more high pitched scream, similar to the aforementioned M3.
Believe me, the GTI sounds NOTHING like an M3
Its more Ford Focus
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a totally standard scooby sounds lovely i one drove a 3dr jap inport standard type r scooby and it sounded amazing at any revs tbh as i said i wouldn buy one myself but hats off to subaru they sound sweet lol do i detect a little bitterness from jules v6 and r32 uk that maybe there is a 4 pot around that tramples on the sound of theire v6's lol
scoobys sound great just a shame the engine is in a chav machine gti would have a different image if it sounded anything like that, still love mine though :smiley:
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
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a totally standard scooby sounds lovely i one drove a 3dr jap inport standard type r scooby and it sounded amazing at any revs tbh as i said i wouldn buy one myself but hats off to subaru they sound sweet lol do i detect a little bitterness from jules v6 and r32 uk that maybe there is a 4 pot around that tramples on the sound of theire v6's lol
scoobys sound great just a shame the engine is in a chav machine gti would have a different image if it sounded anything like that, still love mine though :smiley:
Ha ha!! comedy at its best :grin: :grin: ETTO i guess
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/3148096124_0aff05330c.jpg)
OHHHHHHH thats bitter ;)
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^^ Scoobys sound AWFUL!!! Why would you want your car to sound like that all the time???? :huh:
You obviously have a very blinkered view. A non-chavved Scoob and an R32 sound pretty similar with a deep throaty roar when giving it some beans.
As opposed to the GTI which is a more high pitched scream, similar to the aforementioned M3.
You need one of these mate
(http://myhealth.ucsd.edu/library/healthguide/en-us/images/media/medical/hw/nr55552038.jpg)
GTI sounding like an M3 :shocked:
There is a big difference between engine noise and exhaust noise! Subarus try to sound like a V6 by using the exhaust and fail in every way. One of the worst sounding engines. The noise from the R32 is the engine being accentuated by the exhaust, the subaru is just pure exhaust noise. This is proven with the newer shape which use the same engines but different exhausts.
Subaru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enYWT9b7ZQ&feature=related
R32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnx6Q3epnAo
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Do you think you could find out what the other part is?
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
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£1400 :shocked:
Thats an expensive rattle. If we could find the parts it could be DIY surely?
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£1400 :shocked:
Thats an expensive rattle. If we could find the parts it could be DIY surely?
Hope so. :sad:
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
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Out of interest is this constant or does it disappear when the clutch is pressed? Seems as though I'm getting a similar sounding issue when ever the car is in neutral and idling, once pressed it fads away until its engaged again in neutral.
Luke
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Out of interest is this constant or does it disappear when the clutch is pressed? Seems as though I'm getting a similar sounding issue when ever the car is in neutral and idling, once pressed it fads away until its engaged again in neutral.
Luke
Mine is a dsg so no clutch. Oddly the engine doesn't tick when its cold, only when its warm. Its only when stationary that i can hear it and inside the car more than outside. The car is 100% perfect other than this noise, i hope it is normal for the engine.
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The DSG has a clutch :laugh:
How do you think it works otherwise? Magic :grin:
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The DSG has a clutch :laugh:
no it doesn't
it has 2 :tongue: :grin: :grin:
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That it does :laugh:
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hi spencer 30 that sounds exactly the same as mine mate only ticky when warmed up and sounds worse inside the car right from the dash/bulkhead area, ive taken mine to vw twice and both times they have said there is nothing wrong with it and nothing to worry about, even let me hear another one running on the forecourt and sounded the same tbh :undecided:
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hi spencer 30 that sounds exactly the same as mine mate only ticky when warmed up and sounds worse inside the car right from the dash/bulkhead area, ive taken mine to vw twice and both times they have said there is nothing wrong with it and nothing to worry about, even let me hear another one running on the forecourt and sounded the same tbh :undecided:
This is the same as mine. Has not always made the noise though, so I know it is not normal. I am now on 76k with the noise starting at about 60k. It hasn't got any worse and performance hasn't been affected. Still, after saying that, something is wrong. I have been looking for an answer to this for about 8 months, mainly on the American forums with no joy. I think this is to do with the fact that the Americans never got the AXX engine. I am starting to think it is only affecting this engine code. It would be good to know if any parts in the cam chain/cover area have been superseded on the later engine codes.
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Hasn't this unexpected noise got something to do with the injectors?
Do other VAG platforms using the 2.0T FSI engine such as Skoda/Seat/Audi, also have this noise?
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Hasn't this unexpected noise got something to do with the injectors?
Do other VAG platforms using the 2.0T FSI engine such as Skoda/Seat/Audi, also have this noise?
No RR, you can still hear them as well. As for other VAG platforms, not sure on which ones use the AXX engine.
Would be good to know. The noise is coming from the cam chain cover area ONLY when warm. You can hear the noise in the cabin more because the sound of the injectors and purge valve are quiet when sat inside the car.
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@ ukdub:
I notice your sig says : - "BSH speedshop PCV stage 2 fix but with Forge catch can" - I don't want to hijack this thread so do you have a link to another thread on the subject please?
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@ ukdub:
I notice your sig says : - "BSH speedshop PCV stage 2 fix but with Forge catch can" - I don't want to hijack this thread so do you have a link to another thread on the subject please?
Not done a write up RR (should do) but here is one of the threads. (page 2)
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3321.0
I should add that the main reason I changed the PCV system is to see whether that was the reason for my noisey engine. Same thing with the HPFP. But no :sad: :angry:
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Out of interest is this constant or does it disappear when the clutch is pressed? Seems as though I'm getting a similar sounding issue when ever the car is in neutral and idling, once pressed it fads away until its engaged again in neutral.
Luke
Mine is a dsg so no clutch. Oddly the engine doesn't tick when its cold, only when its warm. Its only when stationary that i can hear it and inside the car more than outside. The car is 100% perfect other than this noise, i hope it is normal for the engine.
Sounds very similar to mine, almost like a rattle/ knocking. Mine's got to go in anyway to have the A/C fixed as thats gone duff so I'll get the mechanic to sit inside the car and wait him to tell me there's nothing wrong :rolleyes:. Sounds as though its coming directly from behind the bulkhead as well rather than someone has suggested it could be the fuel lines.
Luke
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The DSG has a clutch :laugh:
How do you think it works otherwise? Magic :grin:
Yes i know that :grin: but the question was "does it do it when the clutch is pressed" seeing that there is no clutch pedal i have no way of knowing, but it does it at slow speed ie when the road noise doesnt overcome the sound of te ticking and when stationary....
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Leave it in D while parked with foot on the brake then put it in N and see if its louder.
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Leave it in D while parked with foot on the brake then put it in N and see if its louder.
Already tried that, no difference. tick tick tick, then increase the revs, and the ticks get faster, to be fair you cant hear it on the move above about 10 mph. I'm pretty sure its not gearbox related. Maybe it is normal, perhaps i'm just disappointed that gti's sound like a diesel at tick over...... :angry:
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i think you may well be right. I tried the rocco 2.0 fsi and found it too tinny to get. Exhaust may just solve the problem... but on tick over its either grin and bear it or crank up the radio :grin:
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I have an AXX 2005. I'll be getting the cambelt and associated bits swapped out soon. Mine does sound tappity at idle, tho' can't say it's more noticable inside the car. I'll report if there is any noticeable difference.
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I have an AXX 2005. I'll be getting the cambelt and associated bits swapped out soon. Mine does sound tappity at idle, tho' can't say it's more noticable inside the car. I'll report if there is any noticeable difference.
The engine in your Gti George sounded normal when I owned it, the '05 Gti I had a few months later was the problem car! It sounded like a tractor and almost everyone who looked at the car or stood beside it commented that I had bought a Tdi with Gti badges on!!! :angry: :angry:
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Yep picked that up from your post Mark. When I first met Darren at the airport I mentioned the engine sound, it is quite normal (sadly). I only mention the cambelt change just to see when it does get swapped out if there's a difference. I have no probs with mine at all. Just outside on idle it sounds tappitty, they all do I think, it's one dissappointing trait of the mkv.
So whatcha driving now? You still got the s3 kicking around too?
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
What was the outcome Holepunch???
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
What was the outcome Holepunch???
Hi Spencer30 I did het your PM but for some reason it wouldnt let me reply??????
Anyway, the car went into the dealer on wednesday for 3 new monza II's but in they end they changed their mind and only replaced 2.
As for the rattle they decided it was the cam belt backing plate (never heard of it) but due a them not having the correct parts and then recieving the wrong ones its still with them.
I hopfully pick it up tomorrow lunch, I'll scan and post a copy of reciept so you can see exactly what has been replaced.
Fingers crossed it will sorted but I'm not holding my breath.
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
What was the outcome Holepunch???
Hi Spencer30 I did het your PM but for some reason it wouldnt let me reply??????
Anyway, the car went into the dealer on wednesday for 3 new monza II's but in they end they changed their mind and only replaced 2.
As for the rattle they decided it was the cam belt backing plate (never heard of it) but due a them not having the correct parts and then recieving the wrong ones its still with them.
I hopfully pick it up tomorrow lunch, I'll scan and post a copy of reciept so you can see exactly what has been replaced.
Fingers crossed it will sorted but I'm not holding my breath.
Still havent got the car as the noise is still noticable even after replacing the cam belt and tensioner. So on monday they going to remove this items to replace the waterpump.
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
What was the outcome Holepunch???
Hi Spencer30 I did het your PM but for some reason it wouldnt let me reply??????
Anyway, the car went into the dealer on wednesday for 3 new monza II's but in they end they changed their mind and only replaced 2.
As for the rattle they decided it was the cam belt backing plate (never heard of it) but due a them not having the correct parts and then recieving the wrong ones its still with them.
I hopfully pick it up tomorrow lunch, I'll scan and post a copy of reciept so you can see exactly what has been replaced.
Fingers crossed it will sorted but I'm not holding my breath.
Still havent got the car as the noise is still noticable even after replacing the cam belt and tensioner. So on monday they going to remove this items to replace the waterpump.
Hi, yes i've been doing some research it could well be the water pump! not sure though. Our symptoms are exactly the same, when cold no rattle, when warm tick tick tick at idle. let me know if its the water pump!
Let me
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
What was the outcome Holepunch???
Hi Spencer30 I did het your PM but for some reason it wouldnt let me reply??????
Anyway, the car went into the dealer on wednesday for 3 new monza II's but in they end they changed their mind and only replaced 2.
As for the rattle they decided it was the cam belt backing plate (never heard of it) but due a them not having the correct parts and then recieving the wrong ones its still with them.
I hopfully pick it up tomorrow lunch, I'll scan and post a copy of reciept so you can see exactly what has been replaced.
Fingers crossed it will sorted but I'm not holding my breath.
Still havent got the car as the noise is still noticable even after replacing the cam belt and tensioner. So on monday they going to remove this items to replace the waterpump.
Hi, yes i've been doing some research it could well be the water pump! not sure though. Our symptoms are exactly the same, when cold no rattle, when warm tick tick tick at idle. let me know if its the water pump!
Let me
I had the cam belt, tensioner and water pump changed abount 3k ago. It made no difference to the noise I have. IE. When cold nice. When warm, sh!te.
I think the noise comes from the other side of the block to the cam belt. What do you think?
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sounds the same...mate was laughing as i went from a CTR that whined to a petrol that sounds like a diesel :laugh: and i'm not sure if the missus is taking my car to work if she gets out the door first LOL!
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Back on topic....
I had an '05 Gti a few months back which sounded very clattery and diesel like on tickover, I was told it was normal but took it to my vw dealer and he found there was a problem with the timing chain housing and some other part that I can't remember!! all was replaced under extended warranty luckily as the work totalled over £1400
Get it checked out......
Thoughts on this anyone??......the diesel sound may not be "normal" then? :undecided:
Took mine to my local dealership and they agreed it didnt sound right, so its booked in for an investigation on wednesday. I'll be sure to let you know the outsome. I've got a feeling its going to be the fuel punp and/or timing chain!
What was the outcome Holepunch???
Hi Spencer30 I did het your PM but for some reason it wouldnt let me reply??????
Anyway, the car went into the dealer on wednesday for 3 new monza II's but in they end they changed their mind and only replaced 2.
As for the rattle they decided it was the cam belt backing plate (never heard of it) but due a them not having the correct parts and then recieving the wrong ones its still with them.
I hopfully pick it up tomorrow lunch, I'll scan and post a copy of reciept so you can see exactly what has been replaced.
Fingers crossed it will sorted but I'm not holding my breath.
Still havent got the car as the noise is still noticable even after replacing the cam belt and tensioner. So on monday they going to remove this items to replace the waterpump.
Hi, yes i've been doing some research it could well be the water pump! not sure though. Our symptoms are exactly the same, when cold no rattle, when warm tick tick tick at idle. let me know if its the water pump!
Let me
I had the cam belt, tensioner and water pump changed abount 3k ago. It made no difference to the noise I have. IE. When cold nice. When warm, sh!te.
I think the noise comes from the other side of the block to the cam belt. What do you think?
I agree, it does sound like its the other side of the engine from the cambelt area. I'm not going to hold my breath over the new water pump solving the problem.
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Any updates on whether these issues have been sorted?
Luke
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Any updates on whether these issues have been sorted?
Luke
I believe mine is finally sorted. :laugh:
First off the cam belt, tensioner and backing plate(???) was changed, this didnt solve it so this was all removed so the water pump could be replaced.
Whilst this did improve things I still wasnt quite happy with it, so back it went, to have the timing chain and tensioner changed. I think it was this that finally sorted it. At this point the oil and filter were changed too.
As I have been without the car for 2 whole weeks (mk6 1.4 TSI as a courtsy car, nice motor good mpg and refined but it isnt a GTI) its difficult to say for sure but it does feel as though its running better and pulling harder.
I suppose that if the timing chain was at fault then it would have affected the valve timing and in turn effect performance?
Luckily all this work plus 2 monza II's and 4 centre caps were replaced under warranty which ran out on monday!!!
The service I recieved from my local VW dealer was 1st class I cant fault it at all.
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Any updates on whether these issues have been sorted?
Luke
I believe mine is finally sorted. :laugh:
First off the cam belt, tensioner and backing plate(???) was changed, this didnt solve it so this was all removed so the water pump could be replaced.
Whilst this did improve things I still wasnt quite happy with it, so back it went, to have the timing chain and tensioner changed. I think it was this that finally sorted it. At this point the oil and filter were changed too.
As I have been without the car for 2 whole weeks (mk6 1.4 TSI as a courtsy car, nice motor good mpg and refined but it isnt a GTI) its difficult to say for sure but it does feel as though its running better and pulling harder.
I suppose that if the timing chain was at fault then it would have affected the valve timing and in turn effect performance?
Luckily all this work plus 2 monza II's and 4 centre caps were replaced under warranty which ran out on monday!!!
The service I recieved from my local VW dealer was 1st class I cant fault it at all.
I guess mine will be the timing chain as well then, as I have already had the timing belt ,tensioner and water pump changed. Plus the noise comes from that side of the engine. Any idea on price?
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Any updates on whether these issues have been sorted?
Luke
I believe mine is finally sorted. :laugh:
First off the cam belt, tensioner and backing plate(???) was changed, this didnt solve it so this was all removed so the water pump could be replaced.
Whilst this did improve things I still wasnt quite happy with it, so back it went, to have the timing chain and tensioner changed. I think it was this that finally sorted it. At this point the oil and filter were changed too.
As I have been without the car for 2 whole weeks (mk6 1.4 TSI as a courtsy car, nice motor good mpg and refined but it isnt a GTI) its difficult to say for sure but it does feel as though its running better and pulling harder.
I suppose that if the timing chain was at fault then it would have affected the valve timing and in turn effect performance?
Luckily all this work plus 2 monza II's and 4 centre caps were replaced under warranty which ran out on monday!!!
The service I recieved from my local VW dealer was 1st class I cant fault it at all.
I guess mine will be the timing chain as well then, as I have already had the timing belt ,tensioner and water pump changed. Plus the noise comes from that side of the engine. Any idea on price?
The dealership promised to post a photocopy of the warranty paperwork to me. This should arrive early next week and when it does I’ll provide details of part numbers and prices.
I know a cambelt change involves separating the engine from the exhaust and drive shafts but I believe this timing chain is more accessible.
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Cheers for that chaps, I've just booked the car in today for warranty work regarding the A/C which has gone a duff. I tried to get them to find the fault last time but this time I'll get them to sit in the car with the doors closed and play around with the clutch and ask them to check over the timing chain etc and hopefully they'll sort it. Out of interest which dealers have you used for these issues because some dealers seem to be turning down the option of paying their bills with obvious faults which some seem to class as a ball ache where as others seem to do anything they can.
Luke
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Yep picked that up from your post Mark. When I first met Darren at the airport I mentioned the engine sound, it is quite normal (sadly). I only mention the cambelt change just to see when it does get swapped out if there's a difference. I have no probs with mine at all. Just outside on idle it sounds tappitty, they all do I think, it's one dissappointing trait of the mkv.
So whatcha driving now? You still got the s3 kicking around too?
..............mine sounds a bit tappitty on tick over as well.Don't here it in the car tho .It's the axx engine code & is on an 05 plate.Just had cam belt & water pump done.
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So does changing the cam chain do the job ???.Mine is fine on start up but when it warms up gets a bit tappety tho not over loud.
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ooooo u learn something new every day! i thought mine sounded like a diesel too on start up...but now i know its normal pheeew!!
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No difference in mine after the belts and water pump done.
I described mine as sounding a little tappetty but only from outside the car, you would barely know its running from the inside (which is crap really as I have milltek and you can barely hear it!)...maybe I should remove some sound proofing lol (only kidding).
Lovin' my GTI just now, Its going like a dream since the service and all the work.
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Any updates on whether these issues have been sorted?
Luke
I believe mine is finally sorted. :laugh:
First off the cam belt, tensioner and backing plate(???) was changed, this didnt solve it so this was all removed so the water pump could be replaced.
Whilst this did improve things I still wasnt quite happy with it, so back it went, to have the timing chain and tensioner changed. I think it was this that finally sorted it. At this point the oil and filter were changed too.
As I have been without the car for 2 whole weeks (mk6 1.4 TSI as a courtsy car, nice motor good mpg and refined but it isnt a GTI) its difficult to say for sure but it does feel as though its running better and pulling harder.
I suppose that if the timing chain was at fault then it would have affected the valve timing and in turn effect performance?
Luckily all this work plus 2 monza II's and 4 centre caps were replaced under warranty which ran out on monday!!!
The service I recieved from my local VW dealer was 1st class I cant fault it at all.
I guess mine will be the timing chain as well then, as I have already had the timing belt ,tensioner and water pump changed. Plus the noise comes from that side of the engine. Any idea on price?
.......any further with this please ?.
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Any truth in this post on pistonheads?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=699739&mid=0&nmt=Noise%20from%20front%20drivers%20side%20GOLF%20GTI%20Mark%205%20Auto (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=699739&mid=0&nmt=Noise%20from%20front%20drivers%20side%20GOLF%20GTI%20Mark%205%20Auto)
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Were is the charcoal filter ???.As before mine is only a slight tappet sound BUT only when warm.From start up it's very quiet.
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Hi all!!
I am new to the forum as only just got my MK5 (had 3 golfs previously) and had a bit of a mare with my recent purchase as you will read........
I have a 55 plate GTI, graphite blue, DSG, leather, 18'' monzas. I believe it was the one previously owned by Spencer30 - based on the fact it had the same noise as he posted on this original thread, and his name was Spencer, lol!!!! Like Holepunch and Gene Hunt mine was fine when cold but as soon as up to running temp, sounded awful (just like a diesel) - however, performance was not affected.
Needless to say, when I took the car out to buy, it was cold so didn't notice the noise so much. He did say that he had been to VW dealership but they, like others, said there was nothing wrong with it - how wrong they are!!!!
Bought the car at the end of May and took it to my local dealership early June - they had it for a couple of weeks (gave them all the literature from this thread to help as they too were stumped). They changed the cambelt and waterpump on my request as thought it may be this, this did not solve it, at least it is done tho!!!!
After numerous tests - oil pressure, fuel pressure etc, they finally gave in and took advice and a visit from technicians from VW UK (Milton Keynes) - they were absolutely determined to fix the problem.
The result was the timing chain - exactly the same as Holepunches. Got it back yesterday and sounds just like it should. Only problem now is I am very skint, lol!!!
Gene Hunt - if yours is the same problem as mine was I hope you have a warranty as it cost £1200.......(this included cambelt and waterpump too).
Loving the car even more, it is awesome!!!!!!
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the post Lucas
Did you just have the chain replaced or did they change the tensioner as well?
Could you give a breakdown on prices off your invoice as well please.
Thanks
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Hi all!!
I am new to the forum as only just got my MK5 (had 3 golfs previously) and had a bit of a mare with my recent purchase as you will read........
I have a 55 plate GTI, graphite blue, DSG, leather, 18'' monzas. I believe it was the one previously owned by Spencer30 - based on the fact it had the same noise as he posted on this original thread, and his name was Spencer, lol!!!! Like Holepunch and Gene Hunt mine was fine when cold but as soon as up to running temp, sounded awful (just like a diesel) - however, performance was not affected.
Needless to say, when I took the car out to buy, it was cold so didn't notice the noise so much. He did say that he had been to VW dealership but they, like others, said there was nothing wrong with it - how wrong they are!!!!
Bought the car at the end of May and took it to my local dealership early June - they had it for a couple of weeks (gave them all the literature from this thread to help as they too were stumped). They changed the cambelt and waterpump on my request as thought it may be this, this did not solve it, at least it is done tho!!!!
After numerous tests - oil pressure, fuel pressure etc, they finally gave in and took advice and a visit from technicians from VW UK (Milton Keynes) - they were absolutely determined to fix the problem.
The result was the timing chain - exactly the same as Holepunches. Got it back yesterday and sounds just like it should. Only problem now is I am very skint, lol!!!
Gene Hunt - if yours is the same problem as mine was I hope you have a warranty as it cost £1200.......(this included cambelt and waterpump too).
Loving the car even more, it is awesome!!!!!!
Hope this helps.
........had the cambelt & water pump changed when i picked the car up.So looks like cam chain needs changing.Have to dig my warranty out.
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Well just checked on my warranty & the timing chain is covered.Down to the place i got the car from next week. :smiley:
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Hey,
I am away for few days just now, will post the invoice details when I get back.
They did change the chain and tensioners.
Cheers.
Glad the chain is covered by your warranty Gene Hunt.
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Right now i know that everyone here says its normal, in fact i only came on here to find out what the hell was wrong with my car. I've recently purchased a nice 55 plate Golf Gti, 3 dr, Graphite blue, leather + DSG + Monzas. Now i think its great but the ticking from the engine while i'm sitting in traffic is doing my head in, it really does sound like a diesel, even if i rev it a bit when stationary the rattling gets noisier and faster....it's actually worse inside than outside the car.
Now common i cant beleive its meant to be like that!! Surely there's something i can do to cure it????? :embarassed:
Im not sure what this sound is. But when i start my Golf i kinda have a rough sound that is similar to a diesel. I dont think theres too much problem with it. My Lady has the Audi A3 2.0 T so its basically the same car and does exactly the same.
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My mate in VW reckon's they all sound a bit like that.. Tappety etc, it's the direct injectors or something.. Wonder why changing the chain would affect it though?
Sam
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Hey,
I am away for few days just now, will post the invoice details when I get back.
They did change the chain and tensioners.
Cheers.
Glad the chain is covered by your warranty Gene Hunt.
........thanks mate.The cam belt/water pump have just been done i told the garage to do this as part of the deal so just the cam chain & any other bits please.
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Hey,
I am away for few days just now, will post the invoice details when I get back.
They did change the chain and tensioners.
Cheers.
Glad the chain is covered by your warranty Gene Hunt.
................any news with the invoice Lucas ?. :wink:
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Hey, sorry - just got back from being away!!
Right, invoice is as follows (not including cambelt and waterpump):
"Checked and reported on noise from cam-chain area. On further investigation found noise to be from cam-chain and variator. Supplied and fitted cam-chain, variator and tensioner and all associated parts"
Cover £72.06
Premium charge £5.00
Bolt x 2 £1.81
Bolt x 1 £3.05
Bolt x 1 £3.15
Nut x 3 £0.47
Bolt x 1 £2.05
Bolt x 6 £0.60
Gasket £3.77
Adjuster £251.94
Chain £38.46
Tensioner £62.70
Valve £57.75
Labour £422.96
Labour includes time for cambelt and waterpump!!!!
Hope this helps!!!! If you need anymore info, just let me know.
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Hey, sorry - just got back from being away!!
Right, invoice is as follows (not including cambelt and waterpump):
"Checked and reported on noise from cam-chain area. On further investigation found noise to be from cam-chain and variator. Supplied and fitted cam-chain, variator and tensioner and all associated parts"
Cover £72.06
Premium charge £5.00
Bolt x 2 £1.81
Bolt x 1 £3.05
Bolt x 1 £3.15
Nut x 3 £0.47
Bolt x 1 £2.05
Bolt x 6 £0.60
Gasket £3.77
Adjuster £251.94
Chain £38.46
Tensioner £62.70
Valve £57.75
Labour £422.96
Labour includes time for cambelt and waterpump!!!!
Hope this helps!!!! If you need anymore info, just let me know.
Baaaa. :angry: Thought it could be the cam adjuster if not the chain. It would be though wouldn't it, being the most expensive part. If the cam adjuster is the noisy part(would make sence as it is only noisy when warm)wonder if I have to change the cam chain and tensioner?
Oh and thank you very much Lucas
Could you please give us the part numbers as well if you have them.
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Mine is going back to the garage first thing monday so will let you know how it goes. :undecided:
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Mine is going back to the garage first thing monday so will let you know how it goes. :undecided:
Could you ask them if they have to change all these items or do they change them all because they don't exactly know which item is a fault.
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wow...so, did you pay £925.77 just to reduce the tappetty noise?
I take it that it did resolve the issue then?
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Hey Steve (Gene Hunt!!)
Got your mail, but get an error when tryin to reply......
Yes mate, after having all of the parts replaced the noise has gone. Your symptoms sound exactly the same as mine were. If your dealer gets stuck I am sure they could contact where I had mine fixed to get clarification - Wayside Dunstable 01582 500300 (ask for Hugh) Sounds sooo much better, like it should. Still running sweet as now and passed MOT on Friday - although got advisories on pads and discs, I have spent shed loads on this car, hmmmm!!!!!
Hope yours gets sorted mate, let me know how you get on.
Cheers
Chris
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Happy to hear it's sorted, but WOW!!! £900-odd?
Trust there was some warranty in there somewhere.
Otherwise it must have been REALLY annoying to shell out that type of money for a noise.
Fair play either way.
Dan :smiley:
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I have a 2L TDI and that developed a bad rattle, even for a diesel. It came from the inlet. With the bonnet up just behind the grill on the left side, there is a plastic box bolted to the front cross member with a 60mm diameter plastic pipe linking this to the airbox. The air pipe had worn enough to be no longer a tight fit. Hence it vibrated and rattled very loudly. I have only done 65000 kms. I cured it with a piece of self adhesive foam packing. Time to find noise: on and off for about two weeks. Time to effect the cure 20 minutes.
Incidentally if the noise is coming from the pipes under the floor try using silicon sealer as an alternative to plastic foam (mentioned in an earlier post). Clean any dirt and grease off both surfaces, poke the nozel between them and squirt out a button of silicone. Press the pipe into silicon and let it settle where it wants to. If necessary you can push the silicon in place with a licky-spit finger. When dry, (give it 24 hours) the gap is gone and the pipe is secure without any tension being applied. I have used this method on several cars where wiring looms or hoses touch each other or the body. It is surprising how quiet you can make an engine bay.
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Hey Steve (Gene Hunt!!)
Got your mail, but get an error when tryin to reply......
Yes mate, after having all of the parts replaced the noise has gone. Your symptoms sound exactly the same as mine were. If your dealer gets stuck I am sure they could contact where I had mine fixed to get clarification - Wayside Dunstable 01582 500300 (ask for Hugh) Sounds sooo much better, like it should. Still running sweet as now and passed MOT on Friday - although got advisories on pads and discs, I have spent shed loads on this car, hmmmm!!!!!
Hope yours gets sorted mate, let me know how you get on.
Cheers
Chris
Chris thanks for that mate.As in my pm it's going to my local vw dealer as soon as my sisters neighbour gets back off his hols(hes a tech down there).Thanks again for the help & the number i'm shure it will be a great help.
Steve.
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Hey, sorry - just got back from being away!!
Right, invoice is as follows (not including cambelt and waterpump):
"Checked and reported on noise from cam-chain area. On further investigation found noise to be from cam-chain and variator. Supplied and fitted cam-chain, variator and tensioner and all associated parts"
Cover £72.06
Premium charge £5.00
Bolt x 2 £1.81
Bolt x 1 £3.05
Bolt x 1 £3.15
Nut x 3 £0.47
Bolt x 1 £2.05
Bolt x 6 £0.60
Gasket £3.77
Adjuster £251.94
Chain £38.46
Tensioner £62.70
Valve £57.75
Labour £422.96
Labour includes time for cambelt and waterpump!!!!
Hope this helps!!!! If you need anymore info, just let me know.
Sorry for bumping an old thread, but desperately looking for advice. My mkv gti makes this diesel like noise at idle once it warms up. Showed mechanic this thread and he has agreed to replace all the above parts you mention, but I have no warranty..
Can anyone confirm if ALL those parts need replacing? I have read another thread where the guy indicated he only changed the chain and tensioner, and it did the trick? Don't want to replace the adjuster if there is no need..any advice welcome.
My car sound similar to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5jqHkD0qKM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5jqHkD0qKM)