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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Hawaii-Five-O on 09 April 2016, 09:26
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I'll kick this off.
Unique front seats. Ones with moulded headrests and side bolsters would be nice.
Ability to spec 4Motion. Give the customer choice.
More choice in unique colours for the performance Golfs. To enhance its specialness.
Head up display (almost certain this will be an option on Mk8).
Radar sensor integrated into grill more discreetly.
Let's hope VW take note :whistle:
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GTD with 4 motion, Bi-turbo and active dash display.
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4motion would be great. Audi offer Quattro on nearly everything so it's not an impossibility.
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4motion would be great. Audi offer Quattro on nearly everything so it's not an impossibility.
And so VAG want you to have that by buying an Audi, not a VW or a SEAT or a Skoda.
For me:
1) The same colour range as they offer in Germany - nothing special, just the same.
2) Half leather option for the seating. I don't like sitting on leather, but leather trim would be nice.
3) 20 speed DSG box so that DSG has a lower pollution figure than manual
4) Dynamic LED lights (almost certain to happen)
5) ECM package to jam gatsos and machine guns behind the headlights?
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Option to delete Bridgestones would be nice :smiley:
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An R with more horse power
Cheaper Price
A middle gear box mode for the DSG between D and S.
Better Engine/Exhaust sounds like the Audi RS3.
A better stereo as standard, like the Dynaudio or Fender Gear.
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Id love the option Opel have with two coats of paint, HUD, 4 Motion, but I'd be just as happy if they put Keyless and Alarm option back on the 3 door models!
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I'll kick this off.
Unique front seats. Ones with moulded headrests and side bolsters would be nice.
Ability to spec 4Motion. Give the customer choice.
More choice in unique colours for the performance Golfs. To enhance its specialness.
Head up display (almost certain this will be an option on Mk8).
Radar sensor integrated into grill more discreetly.
Let's hope VW take note :whistle:
Great thread.
I agree with all your wish list.
Seats more like the mk5 GTI would be better than the mk7 ones, more prominent bolsters and a proper moulded in headrest.
Some much more appealing and less dowdy colours would be great.
Head up display would be nice, the fully digital dashes worry me slightly as the whole thing would go blank if we had problems like some of the MIB II people seem to be getting with blank screens.
And yes, that radar is pretty ugly and I'm sure there are more aesthetic ways of integrating it without it costing a bomb at production stage.
I'll echo the 4wd bi-turbo wish but a 20 speed DSG would be the bottom of my wish list as the thing would just be swapping cogs and stuttering like a cartoon character. It'd spend more time swapping cogs than it would actually in a gear!
I'll add: some nicer alloys (for the GTI model as standard) than the swastika monzas of the mk7.
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Remove self parking as if you can't park yourself you shouldn't be driving.
Remove anything that mirrors your phone on the screen so that you concentrate on driving not the phone.
Most things are just gimmicks to get buyers to fork out that little bit more. I would prefer them to sort out more power, better handling from stock.
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Remove self parking as if you can't park yourself you shouldn't be driving.
Remove anything that mirrors your phone on the screen so that you concentrate on driving not the phone.
Most things are just gimmicks to get buyers to fork out that little bit more. I would prefer them to sort out more power, better handling from stock.
The only thing I'll add to that is the self parking has a really useful side - getting out of ridiculously tight spaces when someone has blocked you in.
I had it on my GTI and couldn't have it on an R and I do miss it. Maybe only twice a year do I miss it but on those occasions it earns its value considering how cheap it was.
Having said that according to Lee's 2017 MY changes they've hiked the price of it up.
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GTD with 4 motion, Bi-turbo and active dash display.
Defiantly this :smiley: and a R I can afford to buy and run :lol:
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I'll kick this off.
Unique front seats. Ones with moulded headrests and side bolsters would be nice.
Ability to spec 4Motion. Give the customer choice.
More choice in unique colours for the performance Golfs. To enhance its specialness.
Head up display (almost certain this will be an option on Mk8).
Radar sensor integrated into grill more discreetly.
Let's hope VW take note :whistle:
Great thread.
I agree with all your wish list.
Seats more like the mk5 GTI would be better than the mk7 ones, more prominent bolsters and a proper moulded in headrest.
Some much more appealing and less dowdy colours would be great.
Head up display would be nice, the fully digital dashes worry me slightly as the whole thing would go blank if we had problems like some of the MIB II people seem to be getting with blank screens.
And yes, that radar is pretty ugly and I'm sure there are more aesthetic ways of integrating it without it costing a bomb at production stage.
I'll echo the 4wd bi-turbo wish but a 20 speed DSG would be the bottom of my wish list as the thing would just be swapping cogs and stuttering like a cartoon character. It'd spend more time swapping cogs than it would actually in a gear!
I'll add: some nicer alloys (for the GTI model as standard) than the swastika monzas of the mk7.
Oy Mr Ex, leave my Austins alone, I love em'
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I don't dislike the style of them, they're just such a pig to clean properly round the back with that channel behind the spokes.
Oh and they need spacers to sit them properly in the arch.
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I don't dislike the style of them, they're just such a pig to clean properly round the back with that channel behind the spokes.
Oh and they need spacers to sit them properly in the arch.
You're not wrong about that channel actually.
I might look at spacers shortly. Any recommendations?
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I went for some Sparco ones as I liked the idea that they used the brake disc screw to attach to the disc/hub making it easy to locate the bolts.
Otherwise go for a quality make such as Eibach, H&R or Forge as examples rather than cheap eBay ones that might not be machined as well or worse still the spigot might not be very strong.
10mm front and 15mm rear are popular sizes but I went for 12mm and 16mm.
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Some great replies. Cheers guys.
The one I missed came from ajmoir36 about VW adding a setting in between D and S on the DSG box. I think I've mentioned on here many moons ago about VW addressing the DSG box so it's less of a jump between D and S. At the moment it's just too harsh. D covers everyday driving and S is red line madness holding onto revs too long (which is fine on occasions). VW should have done it with D, S and S+ (or give us a custom setting).
I wonder if the Mk8 will get the rumoured 10 cog DSG? If its smoother and offers better mpg and lower co2 I'm all for it (despite what the DSG haters say).
Exonian: Personally I love the third reich Austin alloys (check my avatar) :laugh:
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I went for some Sparco ones as I liked the idea that they used the brake disc screw to attach to the disc/hub making it easy to locate the bolts.
Otherwise go for a quality make such as Eibach, H&R or Forge as examples rather than cheap eBay ones that might not be machined as well or worse still the spigot might not be very strong.
10mm front and 15mm rear are popular sizes but I went for 12mm and 16mm.
how easy are the to fit and do they come with bolts / locking wheel bolt ?
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I'd like to see less, much less. Just a proper car not a 4 wheeled laptop. Then they can use any savings to screw things together a bit better. Perhaps more wheel alternatives and a bit of weight saving wouldn't go amiss.
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I would like dimming external mirrors.
I don't dislike the style of them, they're just such a pig to clean properly round the back with that channel behind the spokes.
Oh and they need spacers to sit them properly in the arch.
You're not wrong about that channel actually.
I might look at spacers shortly. Any recommendations?
The channel is dead easy clean provided you have the right tool. Smallest of the wheel woolies does it perfectly.
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I would like dimming external mirrors.
I don't dislike the style of them, they're just such a pig to clean properly round the back with that channel behind the spokes.
Oh and they need spacers to sit them properly in the arch.
You're not wrong about that channel actually.
I might look at spacers shortly. Any recommendations?
The channel is dead easy clean provided you have the right tool. Smallest of the wheel woolies does it perfectly.
I've got wheel woolies and the small one is nigh on useless for wheels. Pretty good on honeycomb grill though :smiley:
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Keyless to operate from the rear doors as well as the fronts.
Inability to lock keys in the boot. (3rd time last week. I know- it's my fault).
A 60+ litre fuel tank.
Puddle lights fitted to all four door handles, like my bmw. They actually illuminate puddles not jus the door panels.
A dedicated detatchable towbar bolt that isn't retro fit by a half arsed vw dealer.
A footrest pedal that matches the other three aluminium ones.
Driver mode selection button on the steering wheel.
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I would like dimming external mirrors.
I don't dislike the style of them, they're just such a pig to clean properly round the back with that channel behind the spokes.
Oh and they need spacers to sit them properly in the arch.
You're not wrong about that channel actually.
I might look at spacers shortly. Any recommendations?
The channel is dead easy clean provided you have the right tool. Smallest of the wheel woolies does it perfectly.
I've got wheel woolies and the small one is nigh on useless for wheels. Pretty good on honeycomb grill though :smiley:
I find my wheel mitt gets in the channel of my Santiagos just fine. Any odd missed bits get sorted when I take the wheels off for a more thorough clean.
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You're not wrong about that .
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I've got wheel woolies and the small one is nigh on useless
I find my wheel mitt gets in the channel of my Santiagos just fine. Any odd missed bits get sorted when I take the wheels off for a more thorough clean.
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The wheels come off for cleaning? The world is truely a wonderful place! :cool:
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ACT or hybrid technology on the GTI and R.
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You're not wrong about that .
I've got wheel woolies and the small one is nigh on useless
I find my wheel mitt gets in the channel of my Santiagos just fine. Any odd missed bits get sorted when I take the wheels off for a more thorough clean.
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The wheels come off for cleaning? The world is truely a wonderful place! :cool:
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I see it as my little treat :wink:
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I went for some Sparco ones as I liked the idea that they used the brake disc screw to attach to the disc/hub making it easy to locate the bolts.
Otherwise go for a quality make such as Eibach, H&R or Forge as examples rather than cheap eBay ones that might not be machined as well or worse still the spigot might not be very strong.
10mm front and 15mm rear are popular sizes but I went for 12mm and 16mm.
how easy are the to fit and do they come with bolts / locking wheel bolt ?
Very very easy to fit and you can properly clean and seal the backs of the alloy wheels whilst they're off.
Some come with bolts some don't but suppliers will advise you on correct figment. Put it in another thread so as not to clutter this one up any more; snooze had a spacers thread recently or just PM me and I'd be happy to advise.
Lockers are bought separately I'm afraid.
I'd like to see less, much less. Just a proper car not a 4 wheeled laptop. Then they can use any savings to screw things together a bit better. Perhaps more wheel alternatives and a bit of weight saving wouldn't go amiss.
You're speaking my language Watts.
There are just too many cheap showroom gimmicks now.
No wonder driving standards are so bad if everyone is concentrating on their radio screens and Internet streaming rather than what they're doing whilst travelling at potentially lethal speeds.
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I'd like to see the golf get the button that you press to shut the boot instead of shutting it manually
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I'd like to see the golf get the button that you press to shut the boot instead of shutting it manually
That's the only exercise a lot of owners get :wink:
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I'd like to see the golf get the button that you press to shut the boot instead of shutting it manually
That's the only exercise a lot of owners get :wink:
:grin: :grin: probably true in some cases
I was thinking it would be good for the owners who have kids & partners who have to leave hand prints all over the outside of the boot lid when they are closing it, especially after you've spent hours cleaning the car :angry:
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I'd like to see less features, the mk2 had fewer features but was the best of them all. The features are just damage limitation.
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I'd like to see less features, the mk2 had fewer features but was the best of them all. The features are just damage limitation.
Not all features are bad. The LSD is pretty tasty on the Performance Pack GTI.
The 40th edition (Club Sport) is a missed opportunity (IMO) to shave weight and really go for it. VW don't seem in the mood to do those sorts of things anymore. Sadly :(
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The ambient light strip on the rear doors not just the front.
The 2 LED ambient lights on the roof like the Mk6.
A mode button on the MFSW so you can scroll through what source you want.
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Better Media Unit resolution, graphics and UI. Its functional but pretty average really.
Extended interior ambient LED lighting
Better dials more in line with Audi (though seems they will be a dying item due to virtual cockpits, maybe standard on the MK 8)
More wheel choices at lesser uplift cost - trading in the existing wheels and then adding nearly £1000 is extortionate
Being able to select modes by just pressing button to activate and then to keep pressing button to move through menu before timing out
Losing that silly little window in the design (its really picking at the small things now!)
DCC as standard
To be honest its just a great car of the size that personally seek, and with the options available (which maybe would like as standard) and now with Car Play there is very little to change aside from the usual uplifts in engines (greater economy from the R) and maybe additional gearing within the DSG thats been mentioned recently in articles seen.
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You can select mode by pressing the mode button near gearstick on MY16 GTD/GTI's
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You can select mode by pressing the mode button near gearstick on MY16 GTD/GTI's
Yes, thats what do, but be nice to keep pressing that button and cycle the modes, opposed to touching screen, as you can do that while still looking at road where you have little choice but to glance to screen and press (small things I know but this is where the MK 7 is at)
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Its very obvious that the Mk7 is quite close to perfection if we can only think of really minor things...
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Its very obvious that the Mk7 is quite close to perfection if we can only think of really minor things...
Yep, its very much into the territory of the nice to haves opposed to real issues, the only medium one that can think of is the media unit UI and screen as both have room for a real lift in functionality and quality but aside from that love the MK 7
- will add another nice to have, climate screen as a standalone option even if have to take it via a disclaimer to the telephone pack - The nice to have is for VW to not be so rigid and do some things that have you shaking head but no Sat Nav as standard in an R? thats nonsensical really, though Car Play makes that non issue for me now given limited times do use.
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You can select mode by pressing the mode button near gearstick on MY16 GTD/GTI's
Yes, thats what do, but be nice to keep pressing that button and cycle the modes, opposed to touching screen, as you can do that while still looking at road where you have little choice but to glance to screen and press (small things I know but this is where the MK 7 is at)
On the MIB II unit, the button by the stick does cycle the modes. I had a Golf Match courtesy car and it performed this function last week.
I did notice that the MIB II is a lot nicer to look at an use than the MIB I in my GTI. Still not a patch on the BMW media systems though.
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Actually, I'll add something else:
The twiddly i-drive style controller to enable better/safer use of the MIB unit instead of touch screen!
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YES! Ditch the touch screen in favour of a better/safer UI. Audi/BMW rotary dial or touch pad like Merc C Class would be much safer and easier to navigate through menus, phone number lists, music selection etc.
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You can select mode by pressing the mode button near gearstick on MY16 GTD/GTI's
Yes, thats what do, but be nice to keep pressing that button and cycle the modes, opposed to touching screen, as you can do that while still looking at road where you have little choice but to glance to screen and press (small things I know but this is where the MK 7 is at)
Yes sorry that's what I meant, you can cycle through the modes without touching the screen on MY16 cars..
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You can select mode by pressing the mode button near gearstick on MY16 GTD/GTI's
Yes, thats what do, but be nice to keep pressing that button and cycle the modes, opposed to touching screen, as you can do that while still looking at road where you have little choice but to glance to screen and press (small things I know but this is where the MK 7 is at)
Yes sorry that's what I meant, you can cycle through the modes without touching the screen on MY16 cars..
Well thats good to read as it maybe a small thing but definitely a decent nice to have feature ticked off, :)
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Am I the only one who hates how heated mirrors operate? Leave my control in 'L' position so that the mirror lowers on reverse. To heat, you have to turn the dial so many clicks clockwise. If you go the shorter anti clockwise route you end up folding the mirrors in. Also, I forget to move the dial back to 'L'. Wouldn't it be easier if you just pressed the dial and it could hear the mirrors for say 5-10 mins?
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My early 90s Audi had heated mirrors that worked when you switched on the heated rear window. That made better sense but I can't sat the Golf's arrangement particularly bothers me. Just pleased to have heated mirrors again.
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Do the heated mirrors work constantly or just come on below a certain temperature?
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Am I the only one who hates how heated mirrors operate? Leave my control in 'L' position so that the mirror lowers on reverse. To heat, you have to turn the dial so many clicks clockwise. If you go the shorter anti clockwise route you end up folding the mirrors in. Also, I forget to move the dial back to 'L'. Wouldn't it be easier if you just pressed the dial and it could hear the mirrors for say 5-10 mins?
Yes, drives you nuts as you go to reverse in winter and its in the heated option from your cold start.
Another minor irritant but definitely a design flaw that needs changing in next model - The best solution was to link with the heated rear screen = sorted!
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Am I the only one who hates how heated mirrors operate? Leave my control in 'L' position so that the mirror lowers on reverse. To heat, you have to turn the dial so many clicks clockwise. If you go the shorter anti clockwise route you end up folding the mirrors in. Also, I forget to move the dial back to 'L'. Wouldn't it be easier if you just pressed the dial and it could hear the mirrors for say 5-10 mins?
Give that man a star, this has been driving me mad for ages. Why VW why?
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I think the next generation Golf R should have the GTI PP e-diff (VAQ) on both the front and rear axels with the Haldex 4WD system in the middle, for a better system ;)
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I'd like to see fewer features and the car be smaller. Golf's now are the size and passat should be almost.
A smaller car with less gizmos, means less weight, meaning that the car will drive better.
Another thing I'd like to see is a greater choice of colours, there isn't many to choose from at the moment whereas there were all sorts of colours for the mk2. In my opinion the mk6 and 7 could have looked better with more choice. The only colour I really like at the moment is carbon steel grey, but vw have had so many brilliant colours in the past, capri green was my favourite.
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My early 90s Audi had heated mirrors that worked when you switched on the heated rear window. That made better sense but I can't sat the Golf's arrangement particularly bothers me. Just pleased to have heated mirrors again.
I still have an old GTI that has the same feature. A far more sensible arrangement.
I'd like to see fewer features and the car be smaller. Golf's now are the size and passat should be almost.
A smaller car with less gizmos, means less weight, meaning that the car will drive better.
Another thing I'd like to see is a greater choice of colours, there isn't many to choose from at the moment whereas there were all sorts of colours for the mk2. In my opinion the mk6 and 7 could have looked better with more choice. The only colour I really like at the moment is carbon steel grey, but vw have had so many brilliant colours in the past, capri green was my favourite.
Definitely more colours would be appreciated.
I saw a yellow S3 earlier (65 plate I think) which didn't make the S3 look any less like a base model but it certainly highlighted the fact you have more choice with Audi.
A proper ClubSport GTI with less weight and less gimmicks would be a nice option but unlikely.
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The feature I would like to see would be a delayed release date. Something like 2020 would be nice and then I won't get car envy for a while :smiley:
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The feature I would like to see would be a delayed release date. Something like 2020 would be nice and then I won't get car envy for a while :smiley:
Ha ha dream on matey. The Mk8 will be out sometime in 2017. VW moved onto 5 year cycles in 2012.
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The feature I would like to see would be a delayed release date. Something like 2020 would be nice and then I won't get car envy for a while :smiley:
Ha ha dream on matey. The Mk8 will be out sometime in 2017. VW moved onto 5 year cycles in 2012.
So first deliveries in 2018 then? :grin:
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The feature I would like to see would be a delayed release date. Something like 2020 would be nice and then I won't get car envy for a while :smiley:
Pros and Cons to each
Being an early adopter of the MK 7 made my choice a bit of a stab in the dark as there was very little around to make a truly informed decision as there was a lot that was quite new and not comparable to previous car/tech
Fortunately it worked out pretty well though at time there was the many moments where you thought others had make the better choices as debates on this and that went on.
Have to choose in next 6 weeks latest so there is no waiting for the MK 8 as an option, but the car will get will have no dilemma attached other than to preference as understand all the tech and options available.
Imagine the MK 8 will be sharper in lines and maybe have some new standard tech like virtual cockpits and some uplift in bhp etc and the nice to haves on this thread, but it will be more an evolution of the MK 7 than the substantial changes from the MK 6 with new chassis so doubt the overall experience between MK 7 and 8 changes too much
Looking more like a Deep Black Pearl Golf R on Pretoria with DSG/DCC at the moment - changing my storm trooper white GTD to Darth Vader R :wink: :cool:
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I was in the same position, can't wait any longer so ordered a Golf R.
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Ha ha dream on matey. The Mk8 will be out sometime in 2017. VW moved onto 5 year cycles in 2012.
The Mk6 was just 4 years after the Mk5.
So the Mk7 facelift or Mk7.5 or Mk8 may arrive at the end of this year.
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Except, would VW release the Clubsport as the special edition, kinda end of life cycle model for the MK7 only to have the MK8 come out this year before those who have ordered a clubsport would have their cars delivered. That would be a real kick in the teeth. waiting patiently for your new car to be delivered only to have it superseded by the Mk8 before you get to drive the now out dated car you ordered off the forecourt.
I suspect at the earliest it would be sometime in 2017 before you see or hear anything of the MK8. I suspect it will be the run of the mill family cars first, then a year later the GTI and GTD will appear and finally a similar time after that, the Golf R may appear due to popular demand after the MK7's popularity.
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It's not a feature, but I'm hoping the new Golf will have more colour options. The A3 facelift will have these new colour options - Ara blue, Cosmic blue, Nano gray, Tango red and Vegas yellow.
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Except, would VW release the Clubsport as the special edition, kinda end of life cycle model for the MK7 only to have the MK8 come out this year before those who have ordered a clubsport would have their cars delivered. That would be a real kick in the teeth. waiting patiently for your new car to be delivered only to have it superseded by the Mk8 before you get to drive the now out dated car you ordered off the forecourt.
I suspect at the earliest it would be sometime in 2017 before you see or hear anything of the MK8. I suspect it will be the run of the mill family cars first, then a year later the GTI and GTD will appear and finally a similar time after that, the Golf R may appear due to popular demand after the MK7's popularity.
That makes total sense. Though there are a lot of articles which are saying that the facelift will be this year.
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Except, would VW release the Clubsport as the special edition, kinda end of life cycle model for the MK7 only to have the MK8 come out this year before those who have ordered a clubsport would have their cars delivered. That would be a real kick in the teeth. waiting patiently for your new car to be delivered only to have it superseded by the Mk8 before you get to drive the now out dated car you ordered off the forecourt.
I suspect at the earliest it would be sometime in 2017 before you see or hear anything of the MK8. I suspect it will be the run of the mill family cars first, then a year later the GTI and GTD will appear and finally a similar time after that, the Golf R may appear due to popular demand after the MK7's popularity.
Here is an article which talks about the Golf facelift and the Clubsport...
http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/vw-golf-gti-clubsport--facelift-coming-updated-with-pricing/42156/#.VxXN_2b2Zdg (http://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news/vw-golf-gti-clubsport--facelift-coming-updated-with-pricing/42156/#.VxXN_2b2Zdg)
"Volkswagen looks set to introduce a facelifted Golf 7 in Europe this year and will also unveil the production version of the Golf R400 concept.
Before you get too excited, though, Volkswagen South Africa has not yet confirmed that these developments will have an impact on the local market in 2016… but has, however, committed to launching the Golf GTI Clubsport, probably around mid-year."
It may not make sense but it looks like VW are planning on doing both.
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Ha ha dream on matey. The Mk8 will be out sometime in 2017. VW moved onto 5 year cycles in 2012.
The Mk6 was just 4 years after the Mk5.
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Mk5 was first unveiled in late 2003. The MK6 didn't arrive until late 2008 / early '09.
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I suspect it will be a case of those countries which opened order books for Clubsport, first would adopt the facelift first which may be the speculated date being banded around. I would suspect if they say late 2016 early 2017 this will most likely be when Germany would see it. I would expect if it happens so soon before the MK8 we will see it later than Germany and other early adopting countries.
I am still wondering if the MK8 will be the facelift and they delay the facelift a little with this in mind. The Clubsport was suppose to be available to order beginning of 2016. In reality we were not able to order in UK until April. With this in mind the same will probably happen for the facelift and MK8. I can say now it happened when I ordered my GTI when the MK7 was launched.
I also have a feeling the Golf R400 may end up being the MK8 Golf R. If they do release the Golf R400 I suspect it will be so expensive a lot of us will not get near being able to afford one. The Clubsport is a lot more expensive with the extras (i.e. Bucket Seats) being an extra cost rather than standard like we were lead to believe they might be.
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Mk5 was first unveiled in late 2003. The MK6 didn't arrive until late 2008 / early '09.
my mistake... I meant the Mk7 was released just 4 years after the Mk6.
What I find really confusing is that some websites are saying that the Mk7 facelift will be out 2016/17 and the MK8 will be out 2017/2018.
Example...
https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/Volkswagen-Golf-Mk8-2017-price-specs-and-release-date-2367 (https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/Volkswagen-Golf-Mk8-2017-price-specs-and-release-date-2367)
"With the current Volkswagen Golf (Mk7) due for a facelift in 2016, we’re expecting a new model to be launched sometime in 2017. It will keep the current car’s platform underneath, but everything else will change to uphold the Golf’s reputation as a class leader."
Why bother with the facelift?
As Abraham Lincoln once said, "you can only believe 85% of what you read on the internet."
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It won't just be a cosmetic external facelift, there definitely will be some base components that will be uprated and almost certainly there will be a swathe of new optional extras in the tech area - traffic jam auto mode, maybe HUD, maybe digital clocks, maybe the new DSG box, maybe LED lights, MIB3 gesture control etc etc.
Mechanically will it be different? Probably not very much.
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It won't just be a cosmetic external facelift, there definitely will be some base components that will be uprated and almost certainly there will be a swathe of new optional extras in the tech area - traffic jam auto mode, maybe HUD, maybe digital clocks, maybe the new DSG box, maybe LED lights, MIB3 gesture control etc etc.
Mechanically will it be different? Probably not very much.
Think you just look at the Audi A3 face lift due in May and transpose to Golf in 2017 - Be getting my next one before then but do not feel that will be missing out on much aside from some minor lifts in functions, engines, cosmetics. The major lift for some will be virtual cockpits but they genuinely do not excite/bother me
The integrity of the Golf will be at least 95% of what it is now.
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The next time you'll see something really radical will be with next gen engine/gearbox and chasis.
That won't be the "facelift", that will all come with the replacement for MQB, which nobody is saying is the next step.
Whether they call the "facelift" a Mk8 or not probably doesn't add up to much, except that a distinct model number will make them more sales and effect everyone's resale vale.
Wasn't the Mk6 effectively a facelifted and tech-lifted Mk5?
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The next time you'll see something really radical will be with next gen engine/gearbox and chasis.
That won't be the "facelift", that will all come with the replacement for MQB, which nobody is saying is the next step.
Whether they call the "facelift" a Mk8 or not probably doesn't add up to much, except that a distinct model number will make them more sales and effect everyone's resale vale.
Wasn't the Mk6 effectively a facelifted and tech-lifted Mk5?
The A3 version changes are by the chassis, outside of that they are just called face lift A3 some minor some greater like the one coming in May.
The Golf versions are by the model and not chassis and so my expectation is the MK 8 will be in same vein as the A3 face lift thats occurring next month - sharper lines, better engines, wider range of tech
Agree with whoever said that new engines, maybe greatly improved hybrid and standalone electric technology may lead in the next radical version though for me electric tech needs to address the charging issue of access to charging points as vast majority have no drives and the sporadic charging points will not cut it - perfect resolution would be petrol station type centers with 5 min charging but we a long way from that on battery tech and having been in hybrid Lexus recently really not sure about electric silence, kinda soulless.
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Fuel Cell for the win!
100% analogous to petrol/diesel - fuel station fill up from a hose, drive on.
Infrastructure already in place, carbon emissions (at point of burn, but same as electric really!) zero. Running costs negligible, taxation easy to carry over.
I don't really understand why fuel cell isn't a reality yet... I guess a lot of big money wrong footed...
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Can't believe nobody has said 450bhp and 4wd :rolleyes:
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240PS Bi Turbo GTD with 4Motion.
Also just noticed the Octavia VRS 184 is now available in 4WD. Not fair :cry:
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240PS Bi Turbo GTD with 4Motion.
Also just noticed the Octavia VRS 184 is now available in 4WD. Not fair :cry:
My previous A3 was the 170 bhp unit and Quattro and you can specify the Quattro on the 184 bhp and soon to be 190 bhp units.
So its always been possible to do, but if they do that for the GTD, they would have to option it for the GTI and both would dilute the appeal of the R with the increased traction and economy of GTD/GTI with 4WD.
Unless they produce the car mentioned above, a GTD - R with significant raise in bhp and market as an additional model to the GTD then doubt ever happens.
Its easy to market in the A3 as the only model that stands apart is the S3 you bolt together anything else you want, where as VW have 3 distinct performance Gold bands and they would not want to damage one with raising another.
If it was available then would definitely be top of my list with the economy/performance balance
my 1-2-3 for next car all have 4WD its the only thing missed from moving from A3 to GTD
1. DBP Golf R
2. A3 Sportback 190 BHP Quattro (facelift)
3. S3
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240PS Bi Turbo GTD with 4Motion.
Also just noticed the Octavia VRS 184 is now available in 4WD. Not fair :cry:
When the facelift CC came in a few years ago 4WD was an option on the TDi in Germany but not here.
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240PS Bi Turbo GTD with 4Motion.
Now I'd buy one of those. But.. sadly.. I can't see VW ever producing one.
Equally why couldn't we have a GTI with 4Motion! Too close to the R that's why :cry:
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240PS Bi Turbo GTD with 4Motion.
Now I'd buy one of those. But.. sadly.. I can't see VW ever producing one.
Equally why couldn't we have a GTI with 4Motion! Too close to the R that's why :cry:
I know of a mk6 gti In Belgium with the R 4wd system, it needed an R boot floor to make room for the diff. The drive train came from the R doner car. He apparently built it because he wanted an r but was attached to the gti he already had.
Vw will not do it as there is little point to them, you may as well buy an r and fit the gti grill and headlights, that's what I would do as I always liked the red stripe gtis and g60s had. And I don't like chrome.
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240PS Bi Turbo GTD with 4Motion.
Now I'd buy one of those. But.. sadly.. I can't see VW ever producing one.
How about a GTD Performance Pack (if it hasn't been mentioned before)?
With an extra 10ps, electronically controlled limited slip differential and Golf R brakes. That would probably mean around 200ps in Mk8.
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One thing I would like to see is a much more aggressive looking R with more interesting wheel options and more standard kit.
Not that I'd buy one but I can't help thinking that it should look so much cooler than it does currently. Make the front look as aggressive as the back.
It might stop people jumping ship to BMW and the like.
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One thing I would like to see is a much more aggressive looking R with more interesting wheel options and more standard kit.
Not that I'd buy one but I can't help thinking that it should look so much cooler than it does currently. Make the front look as aggressive as the back.
It might stop people jumping ship to BMW and the like.
Its about finding that balance for the Golf as understated is the appeal for many including me, broader, squat with elements that allude to performance but do not scream it, but think the same, in that the front end could have been a little more aggressive, maybe feature the intakes more? you could even say the Clubsport stole the front end the R should have had.
But for the informed, you still do pick them out quite readily especially in motion with the twin DRL coming in your direction as well as Lapiz catching eye.
To the less informed you will likely miss its the top performance 'race' Golf, most still think thats the GTI
None of that puts me off but agree they just missed the balance on this aspect.
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GTD Estate Bi-Turbo 4 Motion with Rear LED cluster, less rattles and creakes and a flux capacitor.
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GTD Estate Bi-Turbo 4 Motion with Rear LED cluster, less rattles and creakes and a flux capacitor.
I'll second the less rattles and creakes, flux capacitor? Maybe an optional extra.
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GTD Estate Bi-Turbo 4 Motion with Rear LED cluster, less rattles and creakes and a flux capacitor.
I'll second the less rattles and creakes, flux capacitor? Maybe an optional extra.
How about Overboost?
The Clubsport gets roughly 10% extra power when the kick down switch is used. So a GTI PP would go from 227bhp to 250bhp when needed.
Or would it be easier to just increase the power without effecting mpg too much?
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I'd really like to see something like the Virtual Cockpit that you get in the new Audi's. Haven't seen one in person but from the videos they look brilliant. Would have to be retina quality though! :rolleyes:
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Solid LED lights on the rear clusters. (not individual led like the mk7)
My 2012 A3 s-line had individual led on the front and solid on the rear, yet my 2015 GTD has the opposite :huh: