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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: GrahamFR on 09 October 2014, 16:21
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We dont have a real tuning thread on here, yeah weve got a few where we have got our new exhausts and questions about panel filters but we dont seem to have one solely for new tuning bits we find that dont necessarily warrant their own thread so im starting one :smiley:
Have we seen what APR have brought out: http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_muffler_delete_ea888_g3_ihi.html
My intercooler should be at Shark by now, I hope I can get one of these deletes before it goes in for tuning so I can get it done in one big hit :cool:
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Yeah, I saw that on the USA mk7 forum the other day, it looks interesting and would be curious as to whether it made any noticeable difference. A fairly cheap and invisible mod if it does anything more than make more noise!
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I hope so too, unlike Apr to release something without a graph proving it's worth tho
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My thoughts too, I'm wondering if it's going to be more of a 'feel' thing increasing turbo spool making it feel more responsive rather than showing meaningful gains on the dyno. Time will tell!
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GIAC (http://www.giacusa.com/products/software/stage_info.php?engine=2.0%20Turbo%20&stage=Xplus&make=VW_%AE&model=Golf%20/%20Jetta%20/%20Eos%20%AE%20%20&submodel=Golf%20%AE%20(%20MK7%202014%20-%20Present%20)&chassis=Golf%20%AE&dynoplot=MK7GTI_GIAC_Stage1_Pump_Race_vs_OEM.jpg&hp=45%20-%2085%20HP&torque=50%20-%2060%20Ft/Lbs%20&chassis=Golf%20%AE%20&id=107%20&rec_hw=intake,%20inter-cooler,%20and%20exhaust.%20&req_hw) have released their OBD remapping worldwide and is priced at £550 inc VAT from Forge UK, not sure how that compares with the other well known OBD mappers(?) but seems to adapt well to further mods looking at their blurb
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Not bad price and I know people rate them well but bhp is a little down compared to revo and Apr but it's another tuner to add to the list. Unitronic have a map out too but they're not in the UK
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The muffler delete looks like its going to improve the airflow but if its actually a problem that needs solving im not sure....??
Im looking FWD to APR's exhaust system release....they normally put a lot of R&D into their systems.
Ken
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I still have two 3" High Flow Downpipe and De-cats for Testing if anyone is interested... :whistle:
(http://i511.photobucket.com/albums/s351/Millsyxsi/Mk7Downpipe2.jpg) (http://s511.photobucket.com/user/Millsyxsi/media/Mk7Downpipe2.jpg.html)
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Millsy, I was thinking about this the other day, why don't you try over at SCN, in my experience more SEAT owners wanna modify than VW's and im sure you'll get plenty of volunteers
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The muffler delete looks like its going to improve the airflow but if its actually a problem that needs solving im not sure....??
Im looking FWD to APR's exhaust system release....they normally put a lot of R&D into their systems.
Ken
Well I emailed APR last week about where I could get one of these as my car is going in for tuning 1/11 and I'd like to have it installed before it goes in. Very excited I can tell you! However as of yet no word back from them, think i'll give them a call today.
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Millsy, I was thinking about this the other day, why don't you try over at SCN, in my experience more SEAT owners wanna modify than VW's and im sure you'll get plenty of volunteers
Thank you for the Heads up, I'm already a member on there as I own a LCR, So I'll have a look in to it. But as these are made for the Mk7 Gti I was hoping to build the interest on the mk7 forums. To be honest there isn't much testing needed and would work well for anyone looking to Remap and especially for any Stage 2 mappers.
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i was thinking in the mk3 section, as arent they all the same downpipes?
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i was thinking in the mk3 section, as arent they all the same downpipes?
In theory yes as its the same set up, That said these haven't been tested on a Seat as of yet and were fabricated on a Mk7 gti. But I shall definitely look in to it. I haven't looked in to the new Seat Cupra's that much tbh. Which mk3 shares the same turbo as the mk7 gti?
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Hmm well actually none of them, so you may have a point there, as if the turbo is bigger then it might not fit the downpipe, unless the exhaust outlets are the same size and its the turbine housing thats just larger... but investigation may be necessary.
In the UK, no other car has the same turbo i think, I know in the US there is an A3 with the same turbo but thats about it.
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Hmm well actually none of them, so you may have a point there, as if the turbo is bigger then it might not fit the downpipe, unless the exhaust outlets are the same size and its the turbine housing thats just larger... but investigation may be necessary.
In the UK, no other car has the same turbo i think, I know in the US there is an A3 with the same turbo but thats about it.
Yeah its always been the same case with the Vw vs Seats.. The Seats normally always offer more bang for your buck. But I shall investigate further. But for the time being if there is anyone interested on here please drop me an email. millsy_4@hotmail.co.uk .
Thank you for your efforts Graham.
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ok 5-7 bhp and less weight? http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/neuspeed-power-pulley-kit-1-8tsi-2-0tsi
what do we all think and how hard is this to install, im guessing its not gonna be easy lol
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The muffler delete looks like its going to improve the airflow but if its actually a problem that needs solving im not sure....??
Im looking FWD to APR's exhaust system release....they normally put a lot of R&D into their systems.
Ken
Well I emailed APR last week about where I could get one of these as my car is going in for tuning 1/11 and I'd like to have it installed before it goes in. Very excited I can tell you! However as of yet no word back from them, think i'll give them a call today.
Awesome say in UK in 2 weeks btw, not sure on UK pricing tho...
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ok impatience strikes again, just bought the muffler delete from here http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Search/SiteSearch/Muffler/ES2792807/ only £20odd delivery to UK, cant really argue with that unless it comes out in the UK much cheaper lol then i'll shout at myself. Will put up picks when it arrives etc
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ok impatience strikes again, just bought the muffler delete from here http://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen-Golf_VII--2.0T_Gen3/Search/SiteSearch/Muffler/ES2792807/ only £20odd delivery to UK, cant really argue with that unless it comes out in the UK much cheaper lol then i'll shout at myself. Will put up picks when it arrives etc
:cool: awaiting your verdict on it with much interest!
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we have one problem with that.... car goes for intercooler and remap 1st nov... unless I take up the mantle to fit this myself i will never be able to tell the difference, aww feck it, if it comes before 1st ill go the local greasemonkey and chuck him a crate of beer to fit it and let you know :grin:
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we have one problem with that.... car goes for intercooler and remap 1st nov... unless I take up the mantle to fit this myself i will never be able to tell the difference, aww feck it, if it comes before 1st ill go the local greasemonkey and chuck him a crate of beer to fit it and let you know :grin:
Looking at where it goes it'll be a fiddly fecker to fit! Best get a greasemonkey on the case!
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You havent seen the fitting instructions lying around have you? they seem to be missing from apr.com?
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Let someone with oil under their nails worry about that bit!
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Well update for you, email from supplier saying due to demand they are unable to ship me the product, that plus the instructions being taken down from aprs website makes me wonder if they've realised only an idiot would buy this and have cancelled production lol
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Hi All
Brand new to this forum and after some expert advice. I've had my car around 8 months and it's time for the mods to begin. :grin:
First car was a MK1 campaign form 1984 in helios blue with the pirelli wheels and have spent the last 8 years in family hack hell but was really impressed driving the MK7 - a great improvement on the MK6 I test drove.
First mods will be an intake and downpipe.
I need your view on the APR carbon intake vs the Revo one (looking for function over looks). The APR one gets my vote but I'm really concerned on spending that much money and it not being functional. The reason I state this is I had a Gruppe M intake for a Civic Type R many years ago and the scoop collected air from the top of the bonnet and was positioned in the bulkhead, however looking at where the APR intake is positioned I do not understand where the airflows from as the plastic trim does not have any holes in and even if it did have holes I cannot see how the air could get in when the bonnet is sealed. On the opposite side of the engine where the standard airbox gets its air from there are holes in the plastic trim and also slotted holes in the front grille trim for the air to pass through so it would be great if someone explains how the air is directed into the APR intake? Presume you have to cut holes in the trim and also in the top of the grill section.
Regarding the downpipe. It seems that only BCS offer one that connects to the standard system and there was a good thread on the Vortex forum listed by some Italian guy. Does anyone have the BCS downpipe fitted? Are they happy with the results? What about running these mods without a remap - does the ECU compensate for running an intake and a DP. Do not want to lean the A/F too much.
Appreciate the feedback.
Paul.
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Hi Paul, are you asking how does air go from the left of the car where the holes are to the right of the car where it's blocked up? Doesn't the Apr one get rid of the standard air tunnel thing and bolt straight to the bonnet? I'll have to have a look but without the standard air tunnel the holes are on both sides. Strangely I have revo one (for arguments sake it's actually pipercross) but was advised to keep my air tunnel in place by the garage that fitted it, but when it gets tuned ill ask if they can run a dyno with it on and off to see which is better.
I have the full BCS system and for clarity I think milteks dp will also fit, but i wouldn't swap my powervalve for the world. I also thought Greg just lived in Italy lol.
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Or ask millsy if his dp fit with oem catbacks.
Ok just Google revo intake and aprs. So revo picture shows tunnel in place but aprs removes it and in doing so opens up the other side too
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Hi Paul regarding The BCS Downpipe I have it installed and is high quality and works really well. The throttle response is better and the sound is throaty, but not intrusive, especially as I had the sound actuator turned down to zero. There is more power but I can't quantify it.
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That's what I meant to say. Don't get an intake if you're not mapping your car, dyno plots say I'm actually 10bhp down now so the standard box and oem ecu setting are finely tuned, too much air and it messes it up! Also, if I was back in the market id wait to see how well vwrs new enclosed system performs cos that looks sick :smiley:
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Sorry Greg!
Thanks for the quick response gents. Interesting point regarding the intake.
I will get the car mapped but just want to wait until the aftermarket diffs are available as traction even in standard tune is a problem with the OEM tyres, especially as the weather is turning and the bridgestones do not like the cold. I was in a bit of a hurry when I got the car and it was a cancelled order - it is the standard one without the diff :sad:
Tornado8 - do you have any other mods as well as the DP? Can you feel the difference more in the upper range? The tail off of pwer is one of my main frustrations with the car!
Has anyone tried making the stock airbox to be more efficient - I was think about sealing the air vent at the rear on the entry to the standard air tunnel for more air is forced into the airbox but not sure if this will affect the cooling of the engine - I'm sure the vent at the back of the air tunnel allows air into the engine bay for some design reason. I'm new to turbo cars and perhaps this will make no difference. I know small mods (smoothing the rough edges) to the airbox on my previous civic made a difference.
Paul.
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Could always just get a panel filter. And I don't think the non pp will be too much trouble with stage 1. I doubt it will stop vrs owners mapping you know
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O...k I've deleted it now lol but did anybody else notice my phone decided to paste in a fb message from my gf...? Apologies all very confusing im sure but she likes to nag lol...
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Paul70 I have a pipercross panel filter, forge intercooler and GFB DV+ valve, altogether it pulls through the rev range well and the throttle response is soooooo much better. Just waiting for Revo stage2 or possibly the AMD tune (also possible VWR enclosed intake) to take full advantage of the mods.
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Sorry Greg!
Thanks for the quick response gents. Interesting point regarding the intake.
I will get the car mapped but just want to wait until the aftermarket diffs are available as traction even in standard tune is a problem with the OEM tyres, especially as the weather is turning and the bridgestones do not like the cold. I was in a bit of a hurry when I got the car and it was a cancelled order - it is the standard one without the diff :sad:
Tornado8 - do you have any other mods as well as the DP? Can you feel the difference more in the upper range? The tail off of pwer is one of my main frustrations with the car!
Has anyone tried making the stock airbox to be more efficient - I was think about sealing the air vent at the rear on the entry to the standard air tunnel for more air is forced into the airbox but not sure if this will affect the cooling of the engine - I'm sure the vent at the back of the air tunnel allows air into the engine bay for some design reason. I'm new to turbo cars and perhaps this will make no difference. I know small mods (smoothing the rough edges) to the airbox on my previous civic made a difference.
Paul.
A friend of mine runs a DTUK box on his company GTI and that doesn't have a PP Diff. You won't need a diff to run stage 1 as the MQB chassis is very competent.
I'd not bother putting any additional mods such as a filter or a DP on a non re-mapped (or tuning box equipped) car as it would gain you nothing and if anything possibly lose performance as far as the DP goes if the ECU decides to wind everything back.
Stage 1 first and everything else afterwards.
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And ill be selling my dtuk box in a few weeks, probably for about half price as I just wanna get rid of it, can have it reset to stage 1 or 2 depending what people want...
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What's your reason for selling if you don't mind me asking?
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Guys just a quick question, would I be better off removing my DTUK FSR box before my Gti PP goes in for its 1st Oil change next week?
Thoughts :whistle:
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What's your reason for selling if you don't mind me asking?
Not at all. Basically the box is programmed to work with a standard car at stage 1 or stage 2 with a downpipe. Considering I will be adding a few more bits to the car it needs a custom remap to account for them all and take full advantage. So ill be going to shark to get that done. So the box will be gathering dust in my boot so might as well flog it.
And yes I'd take it off for a service.
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Guys just a quick question, would I be better off removing my DTUK FSR box before my Gti PP goes in for its 1st Oil change next week?
Thoughts :whistle:
Definitely.
The box might not throw up any TD1 flags to let VW know you've been using a box, buut then why go and leave it in plain sight? The dealer may not care enough to inform VW when they see it, but if they do then engine/turbo/clutch/flywheel parts of your warranty will be adversely affected if something goes wrong later that they could attribute the box to as a contributory factor. For the sake of a fiddly hour's work to have it off and back on again i'd remove it.
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Monkeyhanger, you have a fair point, and I would have taken it off anyway as I dont want to get bitten in the ar$e if something does crop up and they turn round and blame the DTUK box, so better safe then sorry
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Which enclosed VWR Intake are you referring to Graham? I thought APR had the only enclosed intake on the market for the Mk7 at the moment?
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this beauty my good man...https://www.facebook.com/VolkswagenRacingUK/photos/a.315942515180331.75580.299731173468132/667580970016482/?type=1&theater
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I want that!
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I'm very interested. I wonder if it will be much noisier than the standard set up and how much it will be? :drool:
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Lack of noise is a concern for me but every post has said it will be competitively priced
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I know its really the wrong weather to be thinking of things like this but what do you guys think of the whole removing the weather strip in the engine bay thing? I think I may try and find a low profile strip as i have an open cone filter, cant think of a decent reason other than noise to do it for an enclosed system tho..
http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39763
http://www.vwgticlub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=19054
I was thinking maybe some of this stuff again http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007H736YG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#productDetails
I used it on my doors (as some of you may have seen already) as they swing wildly on mine, and I know it looks a bit funny but its worth it...
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0001_zpsc8qtlcql.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0001_zpsc8qtlcql.jpg.html)
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Well update for you, email from supplier saying due to demand they are unable to ship me the product, that plus the instructions being taken down from aprs website makes me wonder if they've realised only an idiot would buy this and have cancelled production lol
ok so prices for the uk are out....http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/apr-1-8t-2-0t-turbo-muffler-delete
are you taking the proverbial APR? £149 UK when its $149 in the US. Thats £92 in case anyone is wondering, so an extra £50 for the privilege of being in the UK?
If anyone makes a DIY version or finds a realistically priced version, please let me know.
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£150 is ridiculous for that. I wouldn't bother.
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Ok so as per my ramblings in the post above, my door protector arrived and I installed it this morning in lieu of the big chunky rubber weather strip...
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141025_094309_zpswncc4wup.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141025_094309_zpswncc4wup.jpg.html)
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141025_094410_zpsdjrvcgwg.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141025_094410_zpsdjrvcgwg.jpg.html)
Now as I mentioned earlier there's not much point unless you have an open cone or just wanna hear your engine some more but I can't argue with the results from those mk6s. I'll let you know if I have water ingress troubles too :smiley:
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If all else fails - at least it was a cheap mod!
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Unless it floods my engine bay in which case a very expensive mod lol
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Unless it floods my engine bay in which case a very expensive mod lol
:grin: :grin: :grin:
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Ohhhhh new present to myself :smiley:
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OOO...nice.... :undecided:
Intercooler..?
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Indeed, the new wagner competition intercooler, ones for a facia too tho. Getting this installed and mapped over the next week. Very happy boy
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facia :huh:
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Lol android does not recognise skoda...
For a Fabia...
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ARRR....LOL
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Apparantly the VWR intake should be available in the UK next week. Gonna get that fitted as soon as it comes out.
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Whoever gets one fitted first can I request they put up a video for sound as it's my only concern with it
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I will probably be the first mate as I've got one "pre-ordered" with Awesome GTI. Will post a vid up as soon as it comes. You fitted the intercooler yet? The standard cooling is pretty poor.
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If you could do an in and an out noise is appreciate it. No not yet, shark are having the car for a week so ill pick it up next Saturday all being well. In the meantime I'll be sporting a 1.6 megane lol so when I get it back it'll feel like a rocket!
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cant physically wait to get my car back, all i can do is look at her from a far... lol and she could do with a proper wash!
https://www.facebook.com/sharkperformance?fref=ts
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Forge FMIC for sale in the classifieds for £500..
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271037
http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/Uprated_Intercooler_For_Golf_Mk7_and_Audi_S3_8V_chassis--product--986.html
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on the subject of selling stuff, i will be flogging my dtuk box for £250 after saturday if anyone wants it, ill stick it up in the for sale section... hopefully cheap enough for a quick sale :smiley:
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Is that your dyno graph on Sharks FB page mate? Impressive BHP, how the hell have you managed to get over 500NM of Torque out that bad boy?
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aye buddy she be mine, cant wait to get her back, i might even have flames lol
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aye buddy she be mine, cant wait to get her back, i might even have flames lol
Haha I bet! Is that power from your intercooler, intake & stage 1? Any other mods?
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intercooler being fitted today according to their page, so that I think is from the exhaust and intake, but hes using it to develop stage 1 and 2 maps so I cant comment for certain which map is what as I dont know
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To be fair it could be from stage 1 with the exhaust and intake. Forgot you had a BCS Exhaust. Was it just the Downpipe or you changed the whole system? Still has a CAT right?
Mine got to 300 (296 to be exact) and 412NM from just Stage 1. So with the intake and exhaust is expect to see about 315BHP close to what you have there and maybe 450NM torque on a good dyno pull. Could be that Shark are going for more torque on Stage 1 (like APR have done).
At Stage 2 I'd expect to be sat around 350-360BHP, especially once the intercooler is fitted. My concern is how much torque these engines are being pushed to. They are very high torque to begin with. Wonder how much the DSG box can take?
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Full tbe with 100cel cat. Whose map you got? I'd love to see 360 lol but that may be many years of tuner fiddling off yet
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Full tbe with 100cel cat. Whose map you got? I'd love to see 360 lol but that may be many years of tuner fiddling off yet
I'm on Revo Stage 1 Map buddy, using setting 2 for 98RON fuel.
I don't think 360 is that far away at all. As I say I reckon stage 2 with turbo-back exhaust/intercooler & intake wouldn't be that far off. It'll get even more interesting when the bigger bi turbos are dropped in along with stage 3 ;) I think the EA888 is about to hit 400BHP. Just another matter getting all that power on the ground through the front wheels. :P
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Yeah sorry Savage, realised it was a daft question when I asked it lol if you weren't Apr who else were you gonna be. So the 310 figures revo and Apr quote must only be on optimistic dynos then?
400 will be a handful but I know a few mk2 cupras running close so it should be just about manageable in ours.
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335 bhp and 521 nm in the end. Safe and rapid lol will get graph up tomorrow or have a look on sharks fb page :smiley: very happy customer
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Great result....are you manual or DSG.....??
Im wandering what the limit is for both.....
Im trying to wait and see what arrives on the table before making a decision on what tuner to use.
Ken
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Manual mate, clutch is holding up so far but most people on scn change their clutches at stage 2 so we shall see. DSG will be fine for that level of bhp tho
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Wow! Impressive figures! Can't wait to see the graphs!
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There is a better graph on fb but doesn't show torque. This graph shows the difference between my car with a full tbe and then again with the intake and intercooler and map, poor quality I know I'll scan it in at work Monday but you may have to zoom in and squint. Try not to confuse the thick and thin lines where it dips slightly at about 2000 RPM.
Just look at the difference lol its bloody lightning even in the rain let me tell you all!
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Awesome! The power and torque isn't just really really strong but also comes in at really useable engine speeds too! It must fly!
You're going to get through a few front tyres!! :grin:
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I have my f1s waiting in the garage, don't reckon 3mm remaining on the bridgestones is gonna last a week tho :smiley:
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Yeah sorry Savage, realised it was a daft question when I asked it lol if you weren't Apr who else were you gonna be. So the 310 figures revo and Apr quote must only be on optimistic dynos then?
400 will be a handful but I know a few mk2 cupras running close so it should be just about manageable in ours.
Very optimistic Dyno's! If you look at most dyno figures they show the stock car at 250-260 which I fail to believe is correct. Plus the 310 figures they show will be run on the highest setting with race fuel and probably in optimum temperatures, wouldn't surprise me if some rounding up went on too ;)
My car at stock showed slightly over 230bhp which you'd expect.
That's some really impressive power gains. The torque is phenomenal. Mine feels like a rocket ship with 412NM, I can only imagine what another 100NM would be like ;)
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Really impressed by the intercooler tbh, it was 315 and 500 without it so it's good for an extra 20 of both it seems
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Got mine going in as soon as the intake is released from VWR. Might throw the intercooler in too.
Will post the dyno graph once it's been fitted. Will be interesting to see how it does on Stage 1 software with better airflow. Will get an idea of what the Downpipe & stage 2 does then.
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Dont know where abouts you are in the country savage but I'd be interested to see what it makes on the same dyno. Shark is a wvr supplier too
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I'm right on your door step buddy. In Nottingham :) Chris at Midland VW did my map.
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Definitely have to get a dyno run sorted once you get your intake then buddy. See what's what :smiley: plus if that intake is as good as it seems I might have to get one, might even make another 10 bhp :smiley:
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Mk7 Dyno day? :grin:
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Be nice but doubt attendance would be great lol would would be good to see what an APR car makes too
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here you go, better quality scan of the dyno as promised
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Be interested to here your thoughts on the Shark map GrahamFR? Only thing I'm in two minds over is how the extra power is put down.
I'm very local to them and had my mk5 GTI done there, so would be keen to use them again over Revo.
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As its a new map ive said i'll give him a full report after a week or two using it, but initial thoughts are the main problem with the map is I now need bigger brakes lol.
It is quite vicious, and I love it for that reason, but with the rain and the 3mm on my bridgestones left we do wheel spin in 3rd. I will say that the pull is amazing, the delivery in higher gears is amazing, just imagine your normal booting it in 4th, well you now get that feeling in 5th, its like every gear has moved down one in terms of pull and response.
Were you thinking of upgrading hardware or just stage 1?
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Probably just stage 1 tbh, don't normally keep cars long enough to get further, although the GTI might be different.
I'd be happy with 260-270, think that would feel more than enough for me!
That's exactly what the Shark mk5 remap felt like gearing wise. Wonder if they are going to offer switchable maps per the STS device or whatever it was called.
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I dont know if they can get the STS to work yet, could be wrong but it wasn't offered to me as an option, I am sure it will be soon however.
And you'll get more than for certain, I don't know what their stage 1 map looks like but going by the DTUK Shark box, you're looking at at least 285bhp which will literally transform the car.
I was happy with just the exhaust lol now i'm ecstatic every time i get in the car :grin:
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Mk7 Dyno day? :grin:
Lol I'm up for that!
Some really good power it's making their Graham. Amazing how much power these can produce at just stage 1.
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Just noticed APR have seemingly reduced the cost of their Carbonio Intake kit to £410 from £450. Wonder if it's to try and stay ahead of VWR's intake which is due imminently?
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Propaply wondering why they have shed loads on the shelf and need to keep the venture capitalists happy
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I'm starting to get impatient waiting for VWR's R600 intake. I'm about ready to just buy APR's especially now it's come down in price to £410.
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Be nice if they dropped the price of the turbo muffler to something reasonable
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hmm interesting read... http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=2924.0
Dont really wanna start an discussion about it, I know APR has a loyal fan base, but it does their reputation no favours..
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hmm interesting read... http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=2924.0
Dont really wanna start an discussion about it, I know APR has a loyal fan base, but it does their reputation no favours..
That's some fascinating reading :shocked:
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There's some research gone into that and a big axe to grind/witch-hunt.
Don't upset an American!
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Be interesting to hear an official response from Arin or anyone else
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To be fair, companies always try to cut corners and maximise profit. I'm not surprised. Sadly it's all about the money today.
As long as it still makes my car faster I'm not too fussed ;)
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Yeah but what they are doing appears to be selling one thing and delivering something else. Bit like you choosing and paying for DCC and then months later finding out you don't have it. Alright as long as the car is still faster than you expected and just a bit of profit maximisation?
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There is maximising profit and then there is fraud. Of course we dont know if these stories are true, unless someone on here would like to chop up their mk6 rsc.....?
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I see Neuspeed have brought out their usual torque arm insert, what are we thinking, not worth the vibration?
http://www.awesomegti.com/brand/neuspeed/neuspeed-engine-torque-arm-insert
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Not truly a tuning part but what do people think of these? http://www.navdy.com/ the video is pretty cool but how much would i really use it...
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Not truly a tuning part but what do people think of these? http://www.navdy.com/
Like the technology but would it be too much of a distraction and take your focus off the road just when you need it the most? :undecided:
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But as you can see through it I think you'd get used to it. I think if I didn't spec the satnav id definitely get one
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That looks really cool!
That's a £750 nav removed from the options list if I ever buy another new car!
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Look what arrived; :evil:
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/Ranen_2006/photo-8_zps43107c5a.jpg)
Video, sound and rolling road graphs to follow :laugh:
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pics once installed and inside and outside videos, busy Sunday for you savage :D
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Who has those VWR intakes available to buy..?
Ken
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Who has those VWR intakes available to buy..?
Ken
AwesomeGTI, however I got my name down for one of the first 10 that were shipped. Doesn't even have instructions because they weren't printed in time! The rest of the units will be readily available around January. :)
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Not truly a tuning part but what do people think of these? http://www.navdy.com/ the video is pretty cool but how much would i really use it...
Great find. Fantastic system. I wonder how much it costs. Next car: forget built-in Sat Navs ..... probably.
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I see they have a "R version and "GTI" version.....is there actually any difference..?? As both picture on Awesome's website shows a R engine bay. I assume its something to do with the washer bottle position.
How close a match is the plastic to the original engine cover..??
Ken
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Great find. Fantastic system. I wonder how much it costs. Next car: forget built-in Sat Navs ..... probably.
£210 according to website but as it comes from the USA you would then have to add import duty + VAT.
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I see they have a "R version and "GTI" version.....is there actually any difference..?? As both picture on Awesome's website shows a R engine bay. I assume its something to do with the washer bottle position.
How close a match is the plastic to the original engine cover..??
Ken
I'm not sure about if there's any difference between the GTI version and the R version. I doubt it. The plastic is a perfect match to the OEM engine cover plastic. You wouldn't beable to tell the two apart.
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Great to hear they match well.....look fwd to your review and fit pictures.
Ken
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I see they have a "R version and "GTI" version.....is there actually any difference..?? As both picture on Awesome's website shows a R engine bay. I assume its something to do with the washer bottle position.
How close a match is the plastic to the original engine cover..??
Ken
I'm not sure about if there's any difference between the GTI version and the R version. I doubt it. The plastic is a perfect match to the OEM engine cover plastic. You wouldn't beable to tell the two apart.
Yeah there wont be a difference, you could probably get a cupra one if you fancied lol.
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Looks like Shark is having a December sale (25%) https://m.facebook.com/sharkperformance/photos/a.10150257524545281.371167.159415695280/10152890414180281/?type=1&source=46&ref=bookmark
Im sure there will be Jan sales from the others like just FYI for anyone itching to get one before xmas...
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Revo is 25% off at the moment too.
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really liking the VWR intake, I know having spoken to their owner and technical guy that they have invested considerably in tooling and development
one will be finding its way on the R in the new year once the first service is out the way as i prefer my intake noise a bit more subtle these days
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Revo is 25% off at the moment too.
apologies so they are, just apr missing out on the action then, they must be too busy disposing of their exhausts :rolleyes:
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Revo is 25% off at the moment too.
apologies so they are, just apr missing out on the action then, they must be too busy disposing of their exhausts :rolleyes:
Busy on R development, all be it the beta equipped car at Crail has a few issues and evidence of having any code wiped from forums with a :smiley:
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Just bought this http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/neuspeed-engine-torque-arm-insert hopefully it will make the car less hoppy and feel better but not be too vibratory. I had one in my derv so it's gonna better than that! Will let you know how I get on. Also I see vwr have fully released their exhaust but can't see a price or anything that makes it different to a miltek...
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Funny reading this as to all those mods to stop wheel hop etc to put 300bhp through the front wheels
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Not quite sure what you're trying to say there wigit, bit fragmented but if you're saying it's pointless then I shall soon find out and if not, then every bit helps
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I see APR have released their R map http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_gen3_mqb_r.html
380bhp and 386lb/ft (thats 523nm!) so if the figures are true thats gonna be a rapid car! Certainly knocks Revo's out of the water but i've always thought Revo's torque was way too low for some reason I cannot fathom why.
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I see APR have released their R map http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_gen3_mqb_r.html
380bhp and 386lb/ft (thats 523nm!) so if the figures are true thats gonna be a rapid car! Certainly knocks Revo's out of the water but i've always thought Revo's torque was way too low for some reason I cannot fathom why.
I've heard from a few people I know (who still have decent connections in the VW world) that the APR beta testing UK car was having the crap hammered out of it in 'testing' and bits were published all over the internet about it; then suddenly the car had a bit of engine trouble and VW turned around and said "tough, cough up the cash if you want it fixed"
So maybe that's why REVO who are normally one of the more 'pushing the envelope' tuners reined theirs in a little in the power stakes.
Internet hearsay I know and how much truth there is in it I have no idea but the vids of the APR car were very quickly pulled off the net last I heard.
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Internet hearsay as well but it seems APR are going through quite a few turbos... I don't think our new ihis are not a rugged as the old ko4s
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The torque is incredibly high on all of APR's tunes. It spikes very sharp early on too.
The turbos in the US were already having issues as they did a recall on certain revisions! Strangely enough we seem to have the exact same turbo part numbers but a recall never happened on them in Europe.
I know APR are working on a BI Turbo for stage 3. Think I'll be upgrading to the larger turbo once it's released.
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Hmm hope the torque isn't the problem lol or im screwed hopefully I'll last until they start making decent aftermarket turbos
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Not quite sure what you're trying to say there wigit, bit fragmented but if you're saying it's pointless then I shall soon find out and if not, then every bit helps
having had two fwd 300bhp cars where i have chucked lots at cash at them to handle the power and torque they always remain flawed especially now having the R, people will say once on the move fwd comes into its on but mine used to flash the esp in the first four gears
I see APR have released their R map http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_gen3_mqb_r.html
380bhp and 386lb/ft (thats 523nm!) so if the figures are true thats gonna be a rapid car! Certainly knocks Revo's out of the water but i've always thought Revo's torque was way too low for some reason I cannot fathom why.
thank god revo only focus on what they do and not others and chase the numbers game, all about drivability these days, do i feel stage 1 revo is lacking, err no, could they have extracted more power/torque, yes they did in development but reigned it in for reliability purposes, i've done the upgraded clutch on manual cars and in reality got fed up of them as a pita in traffic
Internet hearsay as well but it seems APR are going through quite a few turbos... I don't think our new ihis are not a rugged as the old ko4s
a few of these have been going but not the numbers you'd expect and seemed to be the very early cars, fortunately my early R was a loaner
interestingly the APR beta car at Crail which was doing the rounds would appear to have turbo issues given the thread on psitonheads and the editing of posts on R forum
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I like to think the mk7 handles it better than my Leon did but I'll admit that any more power will be a bit of a waste. I used to spin in third but not since I got rid of my bridgestones. A bit more torque from revo wouldn't go amiss tho surely, it makes less nm than Aprs Gti map, turbo survival dependant obviously. Be interesting to see what they do for stage 2s tho
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the old IHI TSI on the Rocco and Mk6GTI made more torque than KO4 cars so nothing new and was why it killed clutches
all the power in the R is above 5k anyway so i just drive a car properly and change down a gear to keep it on the boil and actually why with a dsg in manual mode i find it more fun and engaging
i know how far pushed the boost on these during development with their car as was discussing it today, yes was rapid but they did not want the land of broken cars
tuners can't win as everyone used to say their stuff was too aggressive and not they say its not enough
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I like to think the mk7 handles it better than my Leon did but I'll admit that any more power will be a bit of a waste. I used to spin in third but not since I got rid of my bridgestones. A bit more torque from revo wouldn't go amiss tho surely, it makes less nm than Aprs Gti map, turbo survival dependant obviously. Be interesting to see what they do for stage 2s tho
The Bridgestones do play a massive part on the GTI, especially at Stage 1. They really hate this winter weather too. When I went Stage 1 when the weather was warmer the tyres were okay, not great but okay. Ever since the lower temperatures arrived though it's really made me have to be careful and very progressive with the accelerator to avoid traction control kicking in like mad.
I managed to get wheelhop in 3rd gear the other day driving at 40mph, work that one out...
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Insert has arrived, but not fitting till next wednesday, need decent ramps as i dont fancy jacking it up and trying to do it myself so i am having to wait for the garage
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i see Revo have released their 1.8tsi remap, looks like GTI performance at probably less weight, wonder what APR's will be as they have a video out of their 1.8 A3 beating mk6 R's etc...
http://blog.revotechnik.com/revo-stage-1-software-now-available-for-1-8tsi-transverse-and-longitudinal-engines/
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http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_18tsi_gen3_mqb.html
well, in form with the rest, higher numbers than revo...
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http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_18tsi_gen3_mqb.html
well, in form with the rest, higher numbers than revo...
wonder if that's the same engine as going in the new Polo GTI?
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most likely Ex, it would be the best thing for the engine in terms of development as i bet more people will want a stage 2 onwards Polo GTI than a 1.8 leon or golf.
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Insert has arrived, but not fitting till next wednesday, need decent ramps as i dont fancy jacking it up and trying to do it myself so i am having to wait for the garage
So fitted the insert wednesday, not really had chance to drive it far since but initial reports are good. Barely any extra vibration, cant actually feel anyway while driving, a little more on start up and reverse. Dont know if im going mad but car sounds/feels better now its in.... anyway not had chance to test the effect its had on hopping-ness but its definitely worth it simply for the nicer gear changes (manual obvs) 1st to 2nd is so much better now, probably just bad skill on my part in the past but feels so much crisper.
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Insert has arrived, but not fitting till next wednesday, need decent ramps as i dont fancy jacking it up and trying to do it myself so i am having to wait for the garage
So fitted the insert wednesday, not really had chance to drive it far since but initial reports are good. Barely any extra vibration, cant actually feel anyway while driving, a little more on start up and reverse. Dont know if im going mad but car sounds/feels better now its in.... anyway not had chance to test the effect its had on hopping-ness but its definitely worth it simply for the nicer gear changes (manual obvs) 1st to 2nd is so much better now, probably just bad skill on my part in the past but feels so much crisper.
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag318/Garry_Mcdonnell/F6D4DF9B-B5A0-417A-B325-84D85ACF0A7D_zps8optpycp.jpg)
I wish vw fitted these as standard then maybe this wouldn't have happened causing 8 grands worth of damage.
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Ouch. Well I've always wanted one since BCS were gonna put one in as standard with their tbe until they realised none were out yet lol
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If it calms down the wheel hopping it's got to be a good thing,you don't want hassle I've had. Car being off the road for nearly a month having a new dsg, catalytic converter,radiator,new belts & mounts etc,if I was keeping the car & not buying a Golf R I would get a new mount milled out off solid aluminium.
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put this intake on a mk7 today and saw impressive gains on the dyno. graphs will be up at some point i'm sure
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/tophism/mk7intake2_zps2165797a.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/tophism/media/mk7intake2_zps2165797a.jpg.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/tophism/mk7intake_zps19705e42.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/tophism/media/mk7intake_zps19705e42.jpg.html)
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^That looks awesome!! :cool:
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Dying to know how it performs against the revo unit Topher...?
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I've only ever used the mk7 revo intake on an R so don't have any figures to compare, but this one sure looks a whole lot nicer and is much simpler to fit.
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Dying to know how it performs against the revo unit Topher...?
That's my beast there ;) Full dyno graph will be up soon once I get hold of my MacBook along with videos in and outside the car. I'll tell you now that the gains are higher than expected and it's pretty quiet inside the cabin. Very glad I bought it :)
Full review to follow.
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=271735.0
New thread for the R600 intake because it was starting to get a little bit lengthy! Click link above :)
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What does everyone think to the suitcase muffler delete on the MK7? Makes it sound a lot throatier and raspier. I find the MK7's exhaust to be a little to tame for my liking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiRbSNMtY0I - Skip to 50 Secs in to hear the rev's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4PnkmY2JDk - Sounds a bit crap at idle.
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What does everyone think to the suitcase muffler delete on the MK7? Makes it sound a lot throatier and raspier. I find the MK7's exhaust to be a little to tame for my liking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiRbSNMtY0I - Skip to 50 Secs in to hear the rev's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4PnkmY2JDk - Sounds a bit crap at idle.
1st video sounds fantastic, would not believe that's a 2 litre engine :shocked:
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I'm not convinced on the turbo delete, and I'm convinced the noise made by that video is just the aftermarket exhaust
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I'm not convinced on the turbo delete, and I'm convinced the noise made by that video is just the aftermarket exhaust
As far as I'm aware the exhaust is stock he's just put some custom 4" tailpipes on the car and removed the rear silencer. So i'm pretty sure it's the delete that's producing the deeper sound and crackles.
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What does everyone think to the suitcase muffler delete on the MK7? Makes it sound a lot throatier and raspier. I find the MK7's exhaust to be a little to tame for my liking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiRbSNMtY0I - Skip to 50 Secs in to hear the rev's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4PnkmY2JDk - Sounds a bit crap at idle.
Not exactly gonna win any awards for sound but certainly anything is better than the sheer nothingness of the standard exhaust sound. Question is how much for this mufflerectomy?
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Not much I'd imagine. He said it cost $300 all in I think, that was including the tailpipes he bought. It's just a case of removing the silencer. Be interesting to see how it would sound with a none resonated Milltek Downpipe and the muffler delete.
The reason this appealed to me is that it seemed to be a cost effective mod to get a bit more sound without needing to purchase a full blown turbo back exhaust for £1500-2000. Obviously for performance reasons you'd need to change the Downpipe eventually anyway if you're going Stage 2 onwards.
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Best to ask a customer exhaust garage, should £200 then. And that set up... loud lol, might as well remove the exhaust entirely :smiley:
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Best to ask a customer exhaust garage, should £200 then. And that set up... loud lol, might as well remove the exhaust entirely :smiley:
Haha :D Yes it might be a little extreme I guess. Would probably get pulled over for noise pollution :D
I might make a few calls to my local custom exhaust bloke to see if he can remove it. Better money spent than the turbo delete.
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Yeah I meant custom not customer lol. Shouldn't be a problem, mufflerectomy's are quite common for tdis so it shouldnt be their first.
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So fitted the insert wednesday, not really had chance to drive it far since but initial reports are good. Barely any extra vibration, cant actually feel anyway while driving, a little more on start up and reverse. Dont know if im going mad but car sounds/feels better now its in.... anyway not had chance to test the effect its had on hopping-ness but its definitely worth it simply for the nicer gear changes (manual obvs) 1st to 2nd is so much better now, probably just bad skill on my part in the past but feels so much crisper.
Just wondering how is the insert behaving Graham FR
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Well I did think that after lube had chance to come off it would vibrate more but tbh I haven't noticed any change. I'm used to it now and could honestly see myself getting further mounts as well. At the price it is id certainly recommend it, just remember it's only a minor mod.
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Well I did think that after lube had chance to come off it would vibrate more but tbh I haven't noticed any change. I'm used to it now and could honestly see myself getting further mounts as well. At the price it is id certainly recommend it, just remember it's only a minor mod.
Has it helped with wheel hop?
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Wheel hop has been reduced even in these conditions. However typically useless with me, let's not forget my eagles will be well and truly bedded in now too. Honestly if it was priced in an APR fashion id say avoid but I'm happy as it is.
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Running Eagles asymetric 2 I assume! I am replacing all 4 rubbers soon and are thinking seriously about these, as I have always liked eagles and the best price I have found is £153 per corner. I have P zeros at the moment. I am also considering
DMAK Kinetic S as a punt, but I don't know the price yet :smiley:
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Got mine here http://lovetyres.com/tyre/Goodyear-Eagle-F1-Asymmetric-2/225-40-18
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R coming in March and fancy spacers, 10mm front 15 rear. Few questions here for people who have them currently or used before:
- Is H & R the best spacers and do i buy them direct from their site?
- Do i need to buy longer bolts from H & R or do they come with the spacers?
Thanks
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Seems they do two systems DR and DRA. DR need longer bolts, the others don't as they bolt to the hub and then you bolt the wheel to that. Don't know which is better tho. H&R or eibach if you want a named brand is what id go for but so long as you go for some decent hubcentric ones you'll be fine, mine haven't snapped off yet for instance :grin:
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Seen H&R spacers from Performance Alloys.com Unsure if reputable, where did everyone else get theres?
DR24 (12mm) @ £84.43 and DR 20 (10mm) Version B @ £79.55.
Problem is what bolts do you get? Diffrerent lengths etc.
Ta
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T5-Volkswagen-Radius-Wheel-Bolt-M14-x1-5mm-Thread-40mm-Thread-length-/370639904303?hash=item564bdc1e2f
these are the ones i got for my 15mm spacers.
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R coming in March and fancy spacers, 10mm front 15 rear. Few questions here for people who have them currently or used before:
- Is H & R the best spacers and do i buy them direct from their site?
- Do i need to buy longer bolts from H & R or do they come with the spacers?
Thanks
I have H&R spacers fitted to mine. Excellent quality and a snug fit. H&R now sell longer wheel bolts with locking bolts. The lock key is identical to VW's one. I got mine from alloy-wheels.ie. They are a H&R dealer but are based in Dublin.
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http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79194
Clutch stops, what do we reckon, pointless tack or cheap easy mod?
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Bought this the other day http://www.amdtuning.com/product.details.cfm?ProductID=17598&VariantID=4967&ReferenceID=192901, should be able to fit it myself, just be a pita taking the induction kit off. Read some really positive reviews about it so we shall see how it performs. Also order that clutch stop, I know its a bit tacky but since seeing it i have thought the clutch travel in my car does seem unnecessarily long :smiley: will update as the week goes on.
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http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79194
Clutch stops, what do we reckon, pointless tack or cheap easy mod?
(http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af109/GrahamFR/20150203_195306_zpsgddvsond.jpg) (http://s998.photobucket.com/user/GrahamFR/media/20150203_195306_zpsgddvsond.jpg.html)
See how it performs on tomorrow's drive to work...
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Driving a DSG then it obviously doesn't make a difference to me! Will be interesting to hear how you get on mate.
I wonder when Revo are releasing Stage 2..,.
I've recently acquired 2x Michellin Pilot Super Sports off my mates BMW M135I since he's put a set of winter tyres on. They're going on the fronts this Thursday. Will tell you how they perform.
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I don't understand why they are taking so long you know savage, I hope it's just harder to turn the cel light off than before and not a hardware issue...
Unitronics is out tho so hopefully not.
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I don't understand why they are taking so long you know savage, I hope it's just harder to turn the cel light off than before and not a hardware issue...
Unitronics is out tho so hopefully not.
I think really people do not get the remapping business and why they do not prioritise Stage 2, how many Stage 1 maps do the sell to Stage 2
Revo are working on the Stage 2 map for the R at the moment, i had their R last week to evaluate for two a couple of days, amazingly drivable with such a liner delivery and throttle pedal and know they have been testing at Bruntingthorpe
Totally different to their Stage 1 mapping when you speak to the calibration engineers on the R, all be it their ideal is to closely relate
They have an Octy VRs so I am sure the will get round to it
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I understand the cashcows are in stage 1s but stage 2 gives them an excuse to push their hardware so it's still worth getting it out when you can. I know one cupra that's been running stage 2 for a few months now but still no official release, just don't know why it's taking Apr and revo so long.
Meant to add savage that eurodyne also have stage 2 out as well but I don't know much about them.
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Because its called product development, maybe they like to get some serious miles under the belt, rather than 5 hours on a dyno and release it, they can't win
Of course they push the hardware in development, mainly to see what happens to intake temps and then bring back to levels they are happy with, maps that are running more bhp are pushing more boost simples
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So unitronic have rushed it then? And how can Apr have a stage 1 & 2 out for the 1.8 when they've been playing with it for less time than the 2.0. I'm not discrediting your points wigit, just saying it's strange.
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So unitronic have rushed it then? And how can Apr have a stage 1 & 2 out for the 1.8 when they've been playing with it for less time than the 2.0. I'm not discrediting your points wigit, just saying it's strange.
Maybe they have spent 5 hours on a dyno and are happy putting a product out, who knows how much R&D they have put in, if they are happy then great
Why is it strange, they have a finite resource in terms of people and a development programme, these are global players so its interesting when you chat about what is their best product line, also how much demand is there given the R forum are TD1 mad people are not modding these cars so much
Revo's car has done 11k now and is on the original turbo and not had the easiest of lives
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They do have finite resources, so why develop the 1.8 stage 2 first? Even with all the warranty worries, surely they'd get more custom from the Cupra and R than a less commonly tuned engine.
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They do have finite resources, so why develop the 1.8 stage 2 first? Even with all the warranty worries, surely they'd get more custom from the Cupra and R than a less commonly tuned engine.
Maybe the 1.8 has higher demand as its used in more cars
You'll go down well on the Rforum with the amount of conspiracy theories and internet rumours
I don't see that Shark have released anything for the R despite having Millteks at their disposal, obviously the GTI is Stage 2 as they had theirs, given the close ties I'm not surprised the Milltek makes more power than a BCS in terms of published figures
When companies are happy they release product simples
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They have done a few Rs and S3s but they haven't updated their website, most info is on Facebook.
Milltek does seem to make more power top end but the bcs had a better delta across the range.
What's a forum for if not for conspiracies :smiley:
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Personally i think politically the BCS could never make more than a Milltek at Shark to many vested interests ;)
Would be nice to get posts based on an element of fact rather than the hypothasising by the serial modded from burton who just does not get how the tuning world works
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Personally i think politically the BCS could never make more than a Milltek at Shark to many vested interests ;)
Now who's the conspiracy theorist :wink:
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Personally i think politically the BCS could never make more than a Milltek at Shark to many vested interests ;)
Now who's the conspiracy theorist :wink:
i think it is fairly obvious for those who know the industry as great for pushing preferred partners product
experience also dictates use a tuner neutral dyno for figures, not got a clue what my R makes or my previous Ed35, i'm told what they made but actually not that bothered
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I understand the cashcows are in stage 1s but stage 2 gives them an excuse to push their hardware so it's still worth getting it out when you can. I know one cupra that's been running stage 2 for a few months now but still no official release, just don't know why it's taking Apr and revo so long.
Meant to add savage that eurodyne also have stage 2 out as well but I don't know much about them.
Just checked out Eurodyne's Stage 2 tune and actually wow, it's pretty impressive. I first read it as 301BHP and not WHP! Over 300 at the wheels is nuts! Especially if we take into account the average 15% of power lost at the wheels.
APR released Stage 1 before Revo so maybe the same will happen again. Revo seem to focus more on their R.
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Revo's GTI code was ready before the R, what they had not concluded was the rest of the world testing
Marketing wise why not realise the R code around the time of Inters having just blasted up the 1/4 mile
There is always a strategy and marketing edge
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http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79194
Clutch stops, what do we reckon, pointless tack or cheap easy mod?
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See how it performs on tomorrow's drive to work...
Well for $15 I am pleasantly surprised. Went through all the gears including reverse on the way to work and no grinding issues. Clutch is obviously a lot shorter, and feels better to me now. If you have Michael Jordon legs this aint for you like, but if you have coal mining genes like me this is definitely worth it imo.
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How much would you say that other insert has helped with the cars wheel hop now that you've had it installed for a few days mate? Worth it?
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For the price, definitely Savage. I read that the bfi one is a lot harder tho and causes more vibration but may be better at stopping hop as a result, if yours is really bad at it.
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http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79194
Clutch stops, what do we reckon, pointless tack or cheap easy mod?
See how it performs on tomorrow's drive to work...
Well for $15 I am pleasantly surprised. Went through all the gears including reverse on the way to work and no grinding issues. Clutch is obviously a lot shorter, and feels better to me now. If you have Michael Jordon legs this aint for you like, but if you have coal mining genes like me this is definitely worth it imo.
This sounds quite interesting.
I'd not really noticed the long pedal travel until you mentioned it! Now I notice it all the time.
It's especially noticeable as I have a PedalBox on my GTI (no other mods) so the accelerator has minimal travel in normal use and the clutch has miles!
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Just drove home and I think it's even better now, suggest it's worth a punt but I couldn't find a UK seller so I had to order it from the USA but only took a week.
Just arrived
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But not fitting with half an hour of day light left lol
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Got mine from AMD. I'm very pleased with mine :smiley:
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R Stage 2 Beta for the conspiracy theorists :grin:
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Got mine from AMD. I'm very pleased with mine :smiley:
Ha come round and fit mine! Holding boost better?
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Right! Michellin Pilot Super Sports fitted and where do I start!!!!
Even though these are part worns, one with a puncture repair even! I could feel the difference as soon as I sat inside the car. It "sat" much nicer and felt less rigid (probably due to the softer rubber compound). So far so good...
Then I pulled out the car park with a huge grin on my face, the difference is PHENOMINAL. Where the Bridgestones would be hopping/tramping about while the traction control light gave a light show through the dash, the Michellin's had no wheel hop and smoothly pushed all the power down on the Tarmac, traction control blinked very briefly, once...until it was happy the tyres had the power under control.
The car feels so, so much faster now because all those horses are being used to propel the car successfully up the road. The GTI came up to its first roundabout, 3rd turn...it swung in and then gripped onto the road like there was glue on the tyres. So much more assured, you could feel the rear Bridgestones frantically trying to keep up with the sudden changes of directions the Michellins were making, not having a choice but to drag along and follow suite.
I'd go as far as saying they are the best upgrade so far to the car overall!! I wish I had changed them much sooner...and in fact I'm already looking at throwing away the rear Bridgestones that still have 6mm of tread and replacing them with the same pair of Michellins.
The GTI should never have come with Bridgestones, even at standard they can't cope with the power output. What were they thinking....
My advice to anyone buying a GTI? Buy a new set of tyres now and rip off those Bridgestones before you do anything.
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Sounds even more convincing than my eagles, and i should expect as much at £20 more per corner. May have to push the boat out next time round :grin:
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I was originally going to get Goodyear Eagle F1's to put on as replacements too mate, great tyres. But my friend had taken the Michellins off his M135I to replace them with winter tyres and I so happened to need a pair at the same time so I thought I'd give them a go.
I forgot to add that they are also much quieter than the Bridgestones (the rears sound noisy now!) and the roads were wet too! Apparantly the grip in the dry is even more impressive with tyre review site giving it 97%! Even the mechanic said they are "very grippy" tyres.
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Super Sports are a lovely tyre, i'm finding great in sub zero and wet, not braved them in snow yet
When I sprinted the R with these on omg, turn in is so much better
They may wear a bit quicker but for me will be going on the 19s
Wet weather handling is just immense
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Got mine from AMD. I'm very pleased with mine :smiley:
Ha come round and fit mine! Holding boost better?
Yes holding boost better and improved throttle response. Easy to fit. Just a bit fiddly getting to one of the bolts :smiley:
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Got mine from AMD. I'm very pleased with mine :smiley:
Ha come round and fit mine! Holding boost better?
Yes holding boost better and improved throttle response. Easy to fit. Just a bit fiddly getting to one of the bolts :smiley:
Did you need special long Allen keys or do normal ones work ok?
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http://us8.campaign-archive1.com/?u=794da4b785cf1097a614f2cc0&id=a3fa0a7558
shark maps are out for stage 1, need to update their website still but at least this is now official confirmation
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KB6A_rwjKs
48secs onwards, move over apr, that intake looks gorgeous!
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quite interesting on the friendly R forum people have a go at these figures, as well as Revo and APR saying they were lagging behind one small mapper
my question remains as how much boost they run, the savy tuners are keeping things cooler
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Sharks rollers are very accurate, them and Rtech are the ones id trust and they both got my bhp bang on identical after I had my bcs fitted.
Still wanna put a revo or apr car on either of them to get a proper comparison.
And they seem to quote the figures youre at least gonna get, not what you could get on the most perfect of perfect days. for e.g. they said stage 1 was 285, but their own graph says 297!?
Just reading the r page now...
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quite interesting on the friendly R forum people have a go at these figures, as well as Revo and APR saying they were lagging behind one small mapper
my question remains as how much boost they run, the savy tuners are keeping things cooler
ok who or what is unicorn, i thought for a moment it was code for unitronic!?
EDIT - Ok im off home now but i leave you with one thought. https://www.facebook.com/UnicornMotorDevelopments
How can they get 380 out of an R and only 360 out of a S3? Sounds like the dyno was drunk that day imo, conspiracies tho :)
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tuner neutral dyno for me i'm afraid, Surrey Rolling Road all day long, the only non contentious dyno day i have ever been to, at least APR and Revo hub dyno for whp during development
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Fitted in only 1.5 hrs lol 10mins my arse, only dropped the screws once :) not been out yet will update later
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Got mine from AMD. I'm very pleased with mine :smiley:
Ha come round and fit mine! Holding boost better?
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Yes holding boost better and improved throttle response. Easy to fit. Just a bit fiddly getting to one of the bolts :smiley:
Did you need special long Allen keys or do normal ones work ok?
Normal ok just a bit fiddly :smiley:
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So, been ok a few times since fitting the DV+, must say it seems to pull faster and stronger :grin: and I can also hear the tssh a little bit, admittedly not at high speeds given my other hardware noises but you can still hear it a few times, not loud or intrusive either like a BOV.
I will have to admit I had a slight scare, on the first trip out, coming out of Asda, lots of stop start traffic and for some reason the stopstart was working which it doesnt normally after just starting. Well after crawling a bit I came to a stop and it switched off, upon restart its revs climber to 1.5k and stayed there, like the choke was on and the acc error came up, thought id well and truly knackered it with my DIY skills, but I turned the car on and off myself and shazam error disappeared and car drove perfect and has ever since, very strange... but not replicated so not fussed :smiley:
Ever experienced any issues Tornado? I assume mine was caused by constantly stopped and restarting every five foot and chugging unburnt fuel into the system, may not have even been the dv+ fault just coincidental tbh.
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Have you got VCDS to see if any error codes are being shown so you can et least clear and monitor
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lost the cable, new one is on its way. Problem is I have the cel light on for the exhaust so I dont know if another one has been reported till it arrives, which should hopefully be this week
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So, been ok a few times since fitting the DV+, must say it seems to pull faster and stronger :grin: and I can also hear the tssh a little bit, admittedly not at high speeds given my other hardware noises but you can still hear it a few times, not loud or intrusive either like a BOV.
I will have to admit I had a slight scare, on the first trip out, coming out of Asda, lots of stop start traffic and for some reason the stopstart was working which it doesnt normally after just starting. Well after crawling a bit I came to a stop and it switched off, upon restart its revs climber to 1.5k and stayed there, like the choke was on and the acc error came up, thought id well and truly knackered it with my DIY skills, but I turned the car on and off myself and shazam error disappeared and car drove perfect and has ever since, very strange... but not replicated so not fussed :smiley:
Ever experienced any issues Tornado? I assume mine was caused by constantly stopped and restarting every five foot and chugging unburnt fuel into the system, may not have even been the dv+ fault just coincidental tbh.
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No, none at all. All in all a nice little mod :smiley:
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Must just not like start stopping early then
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Maps are officially officially out for shark now, including stage 2!
http://www.sharkperformance.co.uk/mapdetail?Volkswagen-Golf-VII-2013--2.0-TSI-GTI-Performance-Package-230bhp
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http://www.awesomegti.com/car/vw/golf-mk-7/neuspeed-p-flow-air-intake-golf-mk7-gti
yet another intake system, this time neuspeeds, very competitively priced and looks like pipercross's except it uses a gauze filter not foam, but everyone has their preferences which is better.
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Would rather pay the extra for the VWR R600. It's only about £50 more and I prefer the enclosed filters. Been really impressed with the increased power from mine, especially at top end.
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True, if I was in the market for an intake and as the unitronic one isnt on sale in the uk, then the vwr one is the one I'd have
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Was going to fit my R600 tonight but failing light and a fight with my wife's wing mirrors meant not this evening
Seen plenty of intakes but the quality of this is just amazing and love how it uses em bolts and connectors, link to the fact that ITG developed this and they do filters rather well
Pig fan of Neuspeed stuff in terms of suspension and wheels, every badly modded mk3 Scirocco however seemed to have one of their intakes and those seem to have gone up in price considerably
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Revo Stage 2 released for the R... almost 400bhp!
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Revo Stage 2 released for the R... almost 400bhp!
Just seen that, very nice, wonder if thats the Max for turbo or the fuel pump. No doubt Apr will be coming out next week now :smiley:
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Fitted a pipercross induction kit. Sounds crazy as hell !
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Just saw on Facebook. Revo Performance replying to a comment in the Stage 2 post;
"Can the software be traced by VW dealers?"
"In most cases not if the car is flashed back to stock before a dealer visit."
"Are you saying you have worked out a way to bypass the TD1 code?"
"Not as such. However if the car is stock it shouldn't flag TD1."
Interesting....scare mongery?
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This may be true....VW have had my stage 1 revo GTI for 2 days for diagnostics which they had to send to VW head office and repair of a clutch. Came back as warranty. I was expecting a £1k plus bill because of the map.
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This may be true....VW have had my stage 1 revo GTI for 2 days for diagnostics which they had to send to VW head office and repair of a clutch. Came back as warranty. I was expecting a £1k plus bill because of the map.
Is that because they found no trace of your map, or that the cause could never be attributed to a map? Bet we'll never know.
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I'm unsure, but given its a drivetrain problem and getting the map invalidates the drivetrain warranty I would assume they haven't found it.
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I'm unsure, but given its a drivetrain problem and getting the map invalidates the drivetrain warranty I would assume they haven't found it.
I suspect that a dealership won't go out of their way to look for signs of a remap and scupper your warranty by making VW aware of it, if VW can't remotely detect it. After all, warranty work is paid work and keeps the workshop running - they probably don't want to unnecessarily piss off a customer who has bought a car from them either.
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The dealership does not have to 'go looking' for signs of a remap, the auto scan they do when looking for fault codes will always through up a TD1 code which highlights that the cars is mapped.
Read this post for a detailed insight into this whole issue.
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7492
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The dealership does not have to 'go looking' for signs of a remap, the auto scan they do when looking for fault codes will always through up a TD1 code which highlights that the cars is mapped.
Read this post for a detailed insight into this whole issue.
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7492
So, maybe they did notice but because the fault wasnt caused by the tune, Rem didnt get billed. Which is even better news for us thinking that as soon as youre tuned ALL warranty work is void, clearly not the case here.
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DSG threw some codes on mine since it was serviced, Revo spotted it when I went to get the map back on, DSG reset under warranty, I do recommend getting friendly with your after sales manager
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Who is getting one....
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7123918-Unitronic-Stage-2-Turbo-Upgrade-Kit-for-2-0-TSI%AE-Gen3-MQB%AE (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7123918-Unitronic-Stage-2-Turbo-Upgrade-Kit-for-2-0-TSI%AE-Gen3-MQB%AE)
Ken
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Who is getting one....
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7123918-Unitronic-Stage-2-Turbo-Upgrade-Kit-for-2-0-TSI%AE-Gen3-MQB%AE (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7123918-Unitronic-Stage-2-Turbo-Upgrade-Kit-for-2-0-TSI%AE-Gen3-MQB%AE)
Ken
Well, certainly is more bhp but less tq than ours can be, plus as its clearly a R turbo I thought it would make more than that with an intercooler too. Either way, not sure if its worth the money...
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That's a stupid price for 60bhp extra. Given how the car struggles to handle a stage 1 giving it any more power would be a waste. Would keep the traction control busy I would imagine
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That's a stupid price for 60bhp extra. Given how the car struggles to handle a stage 1 giving it any more power would be a waste. Would keep the traction control busy I would imagine
As we know the gti is good for 315 without worry about the intercooler, you might as well buy this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-S3-VW-Golf-R-GTI-Seat-Leon-Cupra-2-0-TFSI-300-PS-turbolader-IHI-original-/331278335761?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item4d21ba3f11
Flash a mk7 r map on it, and then save up for the rest of the parts.
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Anyone wanna take my bcs downpipe off my hands? Still on the car but will be coming off Saturday 14th and being replaced...
http://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013/vw168-downpipe-with-200-cell-motorsport-cat-and-link-pipe-to-fit-oem-system-with-heat-wrap-system-options-sports-system.html
Comes with the flex but not heat wrapped (not sure why you'd need it wrapped either) so thats £649.99 new. Obviously this is a year old now, but what do you reckon would be a reasonable amount for it?
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http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_gen3_mqb.html
so thats, Shark, Unitronic and APR, only Revo left... (of usual lot)
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Anyone wanna take my bcs downpipe off my hands? Still on the car but will be coming off Saturday 14th and being replaced...
http://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013/vw168-downpipe-with-200-cell-motorsport-cat-and-link-pipe-to-fit-oem-system-with-heat-wrap-system-options-sports-system.html
Comes with the flex but not heat wrapped (not sure why you'd need it wrapped either) so thats £649.99 new. Obviously this is a year old now, but what do you reckon would be a reasonable amount for it?
I assume then this is a no lol?
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Anyone wanna take my bcs downpipe off my hands? Still on the car but will be coming off Saturday 14th and being replaced...
http://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013/vw168-downpipe-with-200-cell-motorsport-cat-and-link-pipe-to-fit-oem-system-with-heat-wrap-system-options-sports-system.html
Comes with the flex but not heat wrapped (not sure why you'd need it wrapped either) so thats £649.99 new. Obviously this is a year old now, but what do you reckon would be a reasonable amount for it?
I assume then this is a no lol?
Very few people seem to be modding cars here at the moment. I guess anyone who wants more power these days just leases an R for 50p a month and puts up with basic spec and red paint?
Even I can't be bothered with it all anymore. Maybe the car is just too good as standard? Maybe we've all been brainwashed and turned really dull?
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Anyone wanna take my bcs downpipe off my hands? Still on the car but will be coming off Saturday 14th and being replaced...
http://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013/vw168-downpipe-with-200-cell-motorsport-cat-and-link-pipe-to-fit-oem-system-with-heat-wrap-system-options-sports-system.html
Comes with the flex but not heat wrapped (not sure why you'd need it wrapped either) so thats £649.99 new. Obviously this is a year old now, but what do you reckon would be a reasonable amount for it?
I assume then this is a no lol?
Very few people seem to be modding cars here at the moment. I guess anyone who wants more power these days just leases an R for 50p a month and puts up with basic spec and red paint?
Even I can't be bothered with it all anymore. Maybe the car is just too good as standard? Maybe we've all been brainwashed and turned really dull?
Well luckily it fits the leon's too, hopefully they still enjoy tuning lol
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Anyone wanna take my bcs downpipe off my hands? Still on the car but will be coming off Saturday 14th and being replaced...
http://www.powervalve.co.uk/products/vw/golf/mk7/golf-mk7-2-0-tfsi-gti-2013/vw168-downpipe-with-200-cell-motorsport-cat-and-link-pipe-to-fit-oem-system-with-heat-wrap-system-options-sports-system.html
Comes with the flex but not heat wrapped (not sure why you'd need it wrapped either) so thats £649.99 new. Obviously this is a year old now, but what do you reckon would be a reasonable amount for it?
I assume then this is a no lol?
Very few people seem to be modding cars here at the moment. I guess anyone who wants more power these days just leases an R for 50p a month and puts up with basic spec and red paint?
Even I can't be bothered with it all anymore. Maybe the car is just too good as standard? Maybe we've all been brainwashed and turned really dull?
Well luckily it fits the leon's too, hopefully they still enjoy tuning lol
They've traditionally had a bit more fire in their belly for such things!
Assuming it will fit and R too? I'd think most petrolheads would be R drivers by now and surely not *all* if them are leased? :laugh:
Might be worth a punt where R owners hang out as well as cupranet.
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Not sure if its the same fitment but I'll check before I take it off and try and sell it, would open the s3 market up too :smiley:
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Not sure if its the same fitment but I'll check before I take it off and try and sell it, would open the s3 market up too :smiley:
Good point!
Audi's bore me senseless so I'd forgotten the S3 even existed!
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Will the Milltek Downpipe for a Mk7 GTI fit the MK7 R then? I know someone who's selling one as he's sold his GTI after his turbo exploded at Stage 2 (be careful Graham) :D
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Will the Milltek Downpipe for a Mk7 GTI fit the MK7 R then? I know someone who's selling one as he's sold his GTI after his turbo exploded at Stage 2 (be careful Graham) :D
The sooner it goes boom the sooner i stick a MAhoosive turbo on it!! Shark do monthly installments don't you know lol#
I asked BCS and they said the gti and the curpa were the same, but i cant see what would be so different on the R and S3, its only the dp section, surely its the same layout. Has anyone got a picture of the underneath, does the awd system get in the way?
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I'm pretty sure there's pics of underneath both cars on Millteks site;
It's true everyone does seem to be cautious with tuning their Mk7's. I think talk of TD1 has scared everyone to death aswell as the turbo recall on GTI's in the US and the few that have blown on R's at stock.
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Just looked. Hard to see but the Downpipe seems to follow the same shape up to the resonator but then after that the centre pipe is completely different. (On the R)
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Very strange, looking at all three it looks like the same starting position and i dont see why it shouldnt work, but for whatever reason milltek have made it so the dp on the R seems to be longer in length before it reaches its first clip, unless im looking at them wrong?
I must say i'm impressed that all 3 are different, tbh I thought they just cut and paste 3 times over...
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and with any look it will fit 1.8tsi models too :smiley:
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Stage 2 MK7 R with Milltek Exhaust....pretty rapid. Timed the 0-100kmh well under 4 seconds.
http://youtu.be/m1HFYzKkX-k
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I see Revo have relased a V2 version of the GTI remap....looks to have a decent gain over V1
https://www.facebook.com/RevoHQ (https://www.facebook.com/RevoHQ)
I must resist a remap....LOL
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Although reaching those numbers on an independent dyno are optimistic, wonder how high theyre going to say stage 2 is cos 330 is massive tbh
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Nobody fancy taking my downpipe off my hands? Thought id sold it to 280 owner in brizzol but someone has run into him and now obviously doesn't need it right now :sad:
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=416849
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http://www.goapr.com/news/2015/05/13/apr-presents-the-golf-r-s3-stage-ii-ecu-upgrade-quarter-mile-record/#more-4218
APR stage 2 is out for the R, and with normal form, the torque is still much higher than revo's
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Nobody fancy taking my downpipe off my hands? Thought id sold it to 280 owner in brizzol but someone has run into him and now obviously doesn't need it right now :sad:
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=416849
Is your DP still for sale?
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Nobody fancy taking my downpipe off my hands? Thought id sold it to 280 owner in brizzol but someone has run into him and now obviously doesn't need it right now :sad:
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=416849
Is your DP still for sale?
ahh sorry chief sold it to a scn member
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Went to Shark Open day on Sunday, found out my car has been mapped back to standard by the dealer lol what a dumbass I am, thought it felt a bit off, anyway also bought these bad boys at a very reasonable price! Hopefully getting fitted next week!
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http://www.superpro.com.au/find/superpro-engine-mount-kit-for-a-superpro-suspension-parts-and-poly-bushings-for-vw-golf-mk-7-typ-5g-4motion-2012-on-/productnr-TRC2001/cid-999501495/vid-
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GrahamFR how much was the kit? and let us know what difference it makes :smiley:
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It was a steal mate, supposedly retails at £600 but not out here yet so time will tell if that's a bit of bs but got it for £250 on the day! I took it off him before I even worked out what "roll control" was lol. Hopefully it's an easy job to fit so I'm not stung with labour too much and of course full review when it's on.
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It certainly looks well made.
Very likely a very worthwhile mod considering the torque you're putting through the drivetrain. It'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on it and we'll all keep our fingers crossed that it's not too bad a job to fit!! :grin:
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So good news and bad news. Good news is, we are now roll controlled. Bad news is, still standard map :( that won't get sorted till next weekend now. Anyhow, I think the real test will be after we're back at full power but so far results are good. Extra vibration is minimal, however noise is increased, you can really hear the running gear and stuff which at first I wasn't too sure about but it's really grown on me over the last few hours and I'm glad exists. I can see it being more of a seat cupra.net thing than here but I'm very happy with it.
In terms of speed, I actually feel faster even without a map. There is no longer any engine rocking under acceleration and deceleration. It's hard to describe but it's like everything feels more solid, you put your foot down and off you go without any hesitation or movement in any direction but forwards.
We shall see how it holds up under stage 2 next week!
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Hope this Superpro offering is better than the rest of their mqb stuff, their lower arms are meant to be dire
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Well it certainly looks the part. And their vibration promise is spot on I'm really surprised tbh, just wish I had the power to give them a real work out :(
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http://www.pistonheads.com/road-tests/road-tests/vw-golf-r-revo-technik-driven/33029
seems revo may beat apr to a stage 3...
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Well it certainly looks the part. And their vibration promise is spot on I'm really surprised tbh, just wish I had the power to give them a real work out :(
Have you had your stage 2 put back on yet and what difference is there :smiley:
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Well it certainly looks the part. And their vibration promise is spot on I'm really surprised tbh, just wish I had the power to give them a real work out :(
Have you had your stage 2 put back on yet and what difference is there :smiley:
Devastatingly no :( basically the updated vw software has well messed up my ecu (or fixed it depending on your perspective) car needs to go back in for a few days to be retuned so hoping to get that sorted next week!
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and here was me thinking APR were concentrating on a proper stage 3 set up
http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_20t_g3_is38_mqb.html
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Interesting that the turbo upgrade works ok with the standard downpipe, albeit with reduced power but uber stealthy!
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well its the same dp as on the cupra as well so it work oem anyway, it would also be a lot cheaper just to buy the cupra too lol!
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well its the same dp as on the cupra as well so it work oem anyway, it would also be a lot cheaper just to buy the cupra too lol!
I missed that bit - didn't realise it was just a Cupra/Clubsport turbo.
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In fact now i've read the article on a proper screen rather than a fiddly phone screen I've no idea how I missed that fact!!!!
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D'oh!
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yes it is just the R turbo, very much like what unitronic have been doing for a while but i would be interested in how much they are charging, i don't believe its worth it on a gti but maybe on a 1.8...
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Ok a few months back to stage2 and the clutch is starting to slip :( so this...http://www.awesomegti.com/sachs-performance-clutch-kit-for-volkswagen-golf-mk7-gti is going on next week at Shark, will let you know how it effects drivability etc
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Ok a few months back to stage2 and the clutch is starting to slip :( so this...http://www.awesomegti.com/sachs-performance-clutch-kit-for-volkswagen-golf-mk7-gti is going on next week at Shark, will let you know how it effects drivability etc
Personally i'd also change the stock dmf for new one at the same time
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Meh I know it would make sense but I have Xmas and new tyres still kicking my ass in terms of my bank balance and considering it's only a light slippage occasionally in 5th and 6th, I'm hoping the rest is ok :)
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How's the stage 2 holding up Graham? I've got mine booked in for the 19th! Are you the only Mk7 gti with sharks stage 2 map?
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Holding up a lot better than it should tbh I cancelled the clutch as since ordering it it's stopped slipping. I can't work out if it just happens when I carry passengers or I'm told it could be a small leak on the plate. Either way I managed to easily fend off a S5+ this morning (assume the plus badge meant he was mapped and tbf it wasn't that easily but I emerged victorious :) ) so the clutch clearly still has some life left in it.
As for other stage 2 ers I'd say they're pretty scarce. A few trade people and a few overseas but people are quite warranty conscious when it comes to physical changes especially on the vw side of the stable it seems.
What hardware are you going for?
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I'm suprised your standard clutch is still holding! Ive seen so many people complaining about their clutch slipping just on stage 1. Mine is Dsg so hopefully won't have to touch it. I've also got the Wagner IC, VWR intake with a forge induction hose, Forge recirculation valve, 3 inch Scorpion Decat downpipe, kw v1 coilivers and also the performace pack.How do you find getting your power down with stage 2?l must be difficult with that rediclious amount of torque!
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ill be honest, i do spin in third now lol but its not too bad, just put a new set of tyres on, rainsport 3's, seem to be doing well.
Clutch is mostly user dependent, i guess im not as harsh as some people, or they just have less self belief that the clutch is fine like me lol.
You'll be fine with dsg tho, it'll hold up to a lot more than stage 2 anyway judging on previous marks.
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Sorry to dig up a old thread just looking a bit of help if possible Hi all I'm new to the site 😁😁
I've a scirocco 2.0tsi and I've just
Finished installing a
Ko4 turbo
Cts discharge pipe
Miltek turbo back
Apr cai
Revised PCv valve
Revised n75
Revised diverter valve
The problem Iam having is that when the car was being mapped to suit it just wasn't making the required boost when being asked for 16 psi of pressure car was only giving 12psi and so on basically it isn't making the required amount of pressure
Tuner done a quick log and baisiacly narrowed it down to being the n75 I replaced this and still no change at the time I also replaced all vacuum lines etc
Could it be a faulty actuator ??
Any help would be appreciated 😁😁😁
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Welcome buddy, if you're ko4 you're a mk5/6 platform so we can't help you cos you're in mk7 land. Someone may know from a previous car or place the question in the mk6 forum, failing that, try mk2 Leon section of seatcupra.net they love playing with stuff.
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http://www.revotechnik.com/product-details/air-filter-intake-kits/carbon-air-intake-mqb
for those that like an enclosed system but cant be arsed to pay for one :)
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Hi Graham, I've been thinking about changing the filter or intake and this looks on paper very good. Nice bit of under-bonnet bling too! But for an otherwise standard car, are they worth it? Can you say in reality what difference they make?
Cheers! And please keep the thread going, makes for an interesting read :smiley:
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Thanks Watts.
Unfortunately I'd says unless you're planning on having the ecu played with, any intake modifications will be a little pointless. The car will be able to suck in more air, but it won't ask for it, if that makes sense?
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Thanks Watts.
Unfortunately I'd says unless you're planning on having the ecu played with, any intake modifications will be a little pointless. The car will be able to suck in more air, but it won't ask for it, if that makes sense?
That's what I thought, tbh. I'm not presently considering any performance mods as the way I drive hardly taxes the car :embarrassed: Cheers for the advice though!
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Save your money Watts.
Unless you're going to remap you're going to get no benefit despite that looking really nice.
Graham sums it up perfectly there.
Mind you, even though you say you drive pretty sedately you'd still benefit from the massive torque increase a stage 1 would give you at low to mid RPMs. Just saying... :smug: :wink: :grin:
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Thanks Exonian, but additional torque is going to be a tad troublesome to tyre longevity, surely?
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Only if you don't feed the power in progressively from a standing start leading to increased wheel spin or you start hooning around corners more. You don't really strike me as quite that gung ho all the time.
I find the extra torque is of benefit most at lower to medium revs in the upper three or four gears where the car can just surge forward with a gentle prod if need be, but generally you just use it to waft around on like driving a big lazy V8.
I've actually found remapped cars to be better on fuel on longer journeys as gear changing necessity is vastly reduced when cruising.
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Many tuners (just check revos website) do a money back guarantee after 30 days, could always just give it a go and see if you like it :)
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Thanks chaps, I'll mull it over..