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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 gallery => Topic started by: XMC1980 on 20 March 2014, 20:00
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Bought my third golf today and I'm so worried I made a mistake!
The car is absolutely solid bodywork wise apart from a few expected age related marks and the front anniversary valance needs painting "properly"
Interior is excellent.... Everything works
Brakes need new pads on the front, suspension is good just a rear top mount if your fussy like me
Wheels are all good and rear tyres are near new
BAD POINTS....
I noticed 5 miles up the road that there was quite a lot of white smoke behind me :( whilst I was on idle is when it's bad, I checked the oil over a 90 mile trip home on three occasions just to be sure. My girlfriend was driving behind me and said once I was driving she didn't see any, only at first, but when we refuelled I started the car and the smoke was there again! It's quite bad when it happens and smells both sweet and oily "more sweet" and there is a sporadic "oil sensor workshop" that flashes up when starting, 4/5 times.
The oil looks really new and the level was perfect there and back and the turbo was working perfect, I know it could be bad news but I thought maybe it is fixable so please give me some good news
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White smoke is not a good sign, Have you tired un-doing the oil cap? is there any mayo like stuff on the cap?
Could be a number of things, Head gasket, bad fuel, really bad boost leak.
shame your not closer to me Id scan it for you.
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No signs of bad oil or mayo but the oil was really fresh....
I am heartbroken as the missus will KILL me
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Oh damn. Take it back to the seller. Did you give him cash? Did you sign any paper to say sold as seen? I forgot to say always take someone down with you who knows more about cars than yourself. I hope it aint bad and just a boost leak from a pipe.
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Tell her to feck off :grin:
or just dont tell her?
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Have you checked the antifreeze? has it got oil in there?
The sweet smell would suggest that the antifreeze is leaking into the combustion chamber.
Have you double checked for sure what the colour of the smoke is?
Blue = oil in combustion chamber
White = Water in combustion chamber
Ether way it will ether be head gasket, worn block or broken piston rings.
Personally Id take it back unless you can buget £400-700
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Yes, sounds like head gasket, block or the piston rings. Get it compression tested and squirt a little oil in the cylinder that's low on compression and compression test again. If the compression goes up, it's the rings.
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Gutted mate looks sweet aswell :sad: worth contacting the seller
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Okay the seller has given me £150 back, he says it was running fine? I guess now I need someone sensible do look at it for me, the smoke has died right down now as I took it for a spin? I don't mind travelling to anyone who fancies looking at it and taking the job on?
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Tell her to feck off :grin:
or just dont tell her?
Got £150 back
I paid cash for it and sold as seen
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The coolant is all good although the temp needle is very inaccurate, it ranges from zero to 90 but mostly around 70, the needle seems lazy IMO
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Sharki my missus is after you :evil:
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Sharki my missus is after you :evil:
love you bro lolsss
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The coolant is all good although the temp needle is very inaccurate, it ranges from zero to 90 but mostly around 70, the needle seems lazy IMO
check it on vag com for any fault codes firstly,sounds most likely that it needs the thermostat replacing :wink:
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That will be a doggy thermostat please ensure you use an OEM part that will stop the temp moving everywhere the broken term will be sticking open. I would strongly suggest that you change the temp sensor too. As i stated id be happy to help with the little jobs and scan your car but your miles away :(
I would advise that you dont use the car until you have a professional do a compression test for you.
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That will be a doggy thermostat please ensure you use an OEM part that will stop the temp moving everywhere the broken term will be sticking open. I would strongly suggest that you change the temp sensor too. As i stated id be happy to help with the little jobs and scan your car but your miles away :(
I would advise that you dont use the car until you have a professional do a compression test for you.
Thanks again nino for the advice and kind offer, I will get the AA to come tomorrow and see what they say, if the compression test is ok ill do thermostat and temp sensor then see what happens? The car doesn't seem to be overheating but unless they been sneaky and taken the thermostat out?
Does anyone know a good techy that is not too far to help me out? Could get the car recovered there with my breakdown cover
Thanks again
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If you do a compression test and all is good i would very happy as your gasket will be fine. If that is the case i would be asking how long was the car standing as it may be stale fuel.
So if the compression test comes back fine then i woukd personally buy a bottle of slick 50 from halfords (its like redex only it works) brim the tank with tesco 99 ron. Change the termo and temp sensor. I would even go as far as taking off the throttle body and giving that a good clean.
Then i would perform a good service i.e oil, oil filter, coolent (G12), spark plugs and cabin filter. Then i woild take the car for a really long drive at least 100 miles strech the gears to push the slick 50 around and clean the engine.
If your compression test comes back as a fail you will need to get just hopefully the head gasket changed hopefully it hasn't warped the head.
While that is being done you may as well do the timing belt, water pump and ensure the engine mount bolts are also changed at this point because they are streched bolts and can only be used once.(see my build to what happens if you dont)
Keep us posted pal.
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If you do a compression test and all is good i would very happy as your gasket will be fine. If that is the case i would be asking how long was the car standing as it may be stale fuel.
So if the compression test comes back fine then i woukd personally buy a bottle of slick 50 from halfords (its like redex only it works) brim the tank with tesco 99 ron. Change the termo and temp sensor. I would even go as far as taking off the throttle body and giving that a good clean.
Then i would perform a good service i.e oil, oil filter, coolent (G12), spark plugs and cabin filter. Then i woild take the car for a really long drive at least 100 miles strech the gears to push the slick 50 around and clean the engine.
If your compression test comes back as a fail you will need to get just hopefully the head gasket changed hopefully it hasn't warped the head.
While that is being done you may as well do the timing belt, water pump and ensure the engine mount bolts are also changed at this point because they are streched bolts and can only be used once.(see my build to what happens if you dont)
Keep us posted pal.
Niño
Hello mate and thank you for all your advice, I went this morning to a friends garage who isn't the best but not a cowboy haha, we plugged the car in on a snap on scanner and it came back with a lambda sensor pre cat fault.
As for the oil sensor workshop warning that has been resolved, the plug had been knocked off the sump as it's low.
The car passed MOT emissions and with flying colours
As for the main concern...... Well it transpires that it's blue smoke that comes out, it's mostly when idle and when starting, once warm it's okay and under load it's not present.
Thee is no loss of coolant and no loss of oil in the last 100 miles
I ordered some bits but I'll wait until I resolve this issue first
Lambda sensor £75
Coolant temp sensor £11
Thermostat £8
Discs front £43
Pads front £30
So no compression test done yet but 2 mechanics say the head gasket looks good
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You've already been given lots of good advice but most of it means spending money..
Whip the spark plugs out and look into the chamber of each gap - any liquid?
spark plugs in good condition?
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You've already been given lots of good advice but most of it means spending money..
Whip the spark plugs out and look into the chamber of each gap - any liquid?
spark plugs in good condition?
I'll go and do that in 10 thanks :)
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You've already been given lots of good advice but most of it means spending money..
Whip the spark plugs out and look into the chamber of each gap - any liquid?
spark plugs in good condition?
I'll go and do that in 10 thanks :)
Done that mate, all plugs look okay and the chambers are all clear and dry, I did check the levels again and they were all fine but something strikes me as add? It had brand new fresh oil in it but the filter plugs and air filter were not changed? I did notice when I took the air filter out that the cone on the inside of the air box MAF was very oily and looks oily inside?
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You might have a dodgy temp sender causing it under or overfuel
Oil being replaced suggests something to hide
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Sounds like the guy knew the head gasket is on its way or has already gone and done a oil change & flush and filled it with new oil. Take it for a long drive and check the oil cap for mayo also i would get a sniffer test done on the coolant. Also i would touch the inside of the coolant bottle above the water for some mayo type
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Or it could be the breather system badly blocked up and the guy thought the head gasket has gone.
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You might have a dodgy temp sender causing it under or overfuel
Oil being replaced suggests something to hide
The temp sensor is lazy and I have ordered new temp sensor and thermostat but it can't under or over fuel as it passed mot emissions this morning?
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Sounds like the guy knew the head gasket is on its way or has already gone and done a oil change & flush and filled it with new oil. Take it for a long drive and check the oil cap for mayo also i would get a sniffer test done on the coolant. Also i would touch the inside of the coolant bottle above the water for some mayo type
It's done about 150 miles on that oil and there is no suggestion "yet" that there is a head gasket issue as no mayo, coolant is ok although the oil change without plugs and filters does concern me.
One mechanic said it smells of oil out the exhaust yet it's not burnt any so far, not that's visible on the dipstick anyway?
Can't get a comp test anywhere until late last week and I don't know if I do someone won't just say it's the head to rip me off! I still got a co*k up my arse from yesterday so don't want to get screwed anymore :(
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If the head was loosing water than the water lever would drop right? 150 miles and it's still the same?
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yes it would show a drop in coolant
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Listen before you go spending money on things you aint sure off please run a diagnostic on the car. If you was close to me in bham i would do it for you and check everything out fully.
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I can see what you have done so far but spending £8 on a thermostat tells me you haven't got an OEM part = BIG mistake you will be replacing that shortly...
Myself and my cuz were working on a mk2 golf gti that we bought for messing about with so we could learn a few things.
This mk2 on IDLE would bellow white smoke but once warm all was fine.
We also notice when driven all was fine.
I suggested an oil change at the time which improved it which would suggest is what the owner did to your car.
After alot of this and that the head gasket was found to be blown.
It's your car and totally upto you BUT i would get a compression test done before using that car but then thats just me.
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I can see what you have done so far but spending £8 on a thermostat tells me you haven't got an OEM part = BIG mistake you will be replacing that shortly...
Myself and my cuz were working on a mk2 golf gti that we bought for messing about with so we could learn a few things.
This mk2 on IDLE would bellow white smoke but once warm all was fine.
We also notice when driven all was fine.
I suggested an oil change at the time which improved it which would suggest is what the owner did to your car.
After alot of this and that the head gasket was found to be blown.
It's your car and totally upto you BUT i would get a compression test done before using that car but then thats just me.
Correction thermo is £38 and all those prices are not inc of VAT
I am getting the compression test done on Monday now after using my noddle, it has been fine again all day not one puff of smoke?
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Listen before you go spending money on things you aint sure off please run a diagnostic on the car. If you was close to me in bham i would do it for you and check everything out fully.
I am at a dead end now dude! Missus says if you help me she will cook you Mexican lasagne haha
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Hmmmmm what will I get if I remap the car?
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Niño
Hello mate and thank you for all your advice, I went this morning to a friends garage who isn't the best but not a cowboy haha, we plugged the car in on a snap on scanner and it came back with a lambda sensor pre cat fault.
As for the oil sensor workshop warning that has been resolved, the plug had been knocked off the sump as it's low.
The car passed MOT emissions and with flying colours
As for the main concern...... Well it transpires that it's blue smoke that comes out, it's mostly when idle and when starting, once warm it's okay and under load it's not present.
Thee is no loss of coolant and no loss of oil in the last 100 miles
I ordered some bits but I'll wait until I resolve this issue first
Lambda sensor £75
Coolant temp sensor £11
Thermostat £8
Discs front £43
Pads front £30
So no compression test done yet but 2 mechanics say the head gasket looks good
Sorry i read this post you did and i thought your thermostat cost you £8 didnt realise it was a typo.
As for remapping your car i would focus on ensuring your car is running right first :undecided:
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As for remapping your car i would focus on ensuring your car is running right first
This is good advice.
If it was me I wouldn't spend anything on the car until I knew what the issue is. It could be you are throwing good money after bad. Why not listen to the good advice people are giving you. Getting the problem diagnosed is the priority. Just looking at your list of parts bought already that's £200+ including VAT. This could be money wasted if the car really is a lemon. You may not even need all these parts but as you haven't had the problem diagnosed yet you don't know :whistle:
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Guys I do appreciate your advice and I have ordered the parts to be in store but not paid for them yet, the plan is is to resolve the issue first but I can't do anything now until Monday when I get the comp test done, maybe I'm being optimistic
I have been recommended to a guy called Mo at West London Performance Motors?
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As for remapping your car i would focus on ensuring your car is running right first
This is good advice.
If it was me I wouldn't spend anything on the car until I knew what the issue is. It could be you are throwing good money after bad. Why not listen to the good advice people are giving you. Getting the problem diagnosed is the priority. Just looking at your list of parts bought already that's £200+ including VAT. This could be money wasted if the car really is a lemon. You may not even need all these parts but as you haven't had the problem diagnosed yet you don't know :whistle:
hey dave. hows it going?
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Not a puff of smoke for 2 days oil and water haven't moved :undecided: wtf!!!
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Was the car by any chance parked up for some time?
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Was the car by any chance parked up for some time?
Apparently parked for a month or two then little use in the last month
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Looks like it must have been water built up in exhaust system. Well lets hope its just that then.
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Looks like it must have been water built up in exhaust system. Well lets hope its just that then.
Sharki I'm hoping so mate, comp test tomorrow and if that is all okay I'll get those bits I need ie new temp sensor and thermostat as mine is lazy and needle mostly not moving lol
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I would also use a good fuel treatment
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I would also use a good fuel treatment
Slick 50 yeah?
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I would also use a good fuel treatment
Slick 50 yeah?
some good sheet that!!
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I would also use a good fuel treatment
Slick 50 yeah?
some good sheet that!!
:grin:
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I would also use a good fuel treatment
Slick 50 yeah?
some good sheet that!!
:grin:
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Found this for fuel treatment bro
Is it worth doing oil treatment as well?
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Oil treatment? As in a oil flush? Some say its not best to do oil flush.
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I would also use a good fuel treatment
Slick 50 yeah?
some good sheet that!!
:grin:
280942412719 eBay
Found this for fuel treatment bro
Is it worth doing oil treatment as well?
ye that slick 50 should do the full fuel system
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Yes slick 50 is the stuff you want, stay away from oil flush treatments they have a tendancy to block the oil pickup pipe
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I am absolutely raging now, the car has been fine for the last 3 days and this morning loads of blue smoke that smells of oil :( I don't know who to call where to go .... Can't help but think I'm fooked now
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You need to start with some investigations - take the TIP off at the turbo side and check for any play in the spindle, wiggle it side to side and then see if there is any movement up and down.. this will check for turbo damage.
If the turbo is ok then you are wanting to be looking at the block next.
Did you get a compression test done?
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You need to start with some investigations - take the TIP off at the turbo side and check for any play in the spindle, wiggle it side to side and then see if there is any movement up and down.. this will check for turbo damage.
If the turbo is ok then you are wanting to be looking at the block next.
Did you get a compression test done?
Just been to West London Performance Motors and the guy there says it's either turbo or valve stem seals, he reckons it's going to be the valve stem oil seals..... He said to take it in on Monday next week and he will do a cold check hot check and wet check along with compression check, he thinks that either way it will be £700 for turbo rebuilt and refitted or 6-700 for the valve stems as long as the head is okay!!
I am well gutted! Anyone on here know a mechanic that won't screw me?
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I have noticed there is oil on the cone inside the air box. Could this be a blocked pipe that's being pulled in by vacuum ?..?
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Have you been using the car daily before having the checks done? Odds are you had some problems that may of gotten worse.
That mechanic has given you worst case scenario please mate get it looked at by a vw specialist in your local area have you had "Stop" pop up on your dash at all? Might be a blocked oil pickup pipe starving the turbo of oil.
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I have driven it for the last 4 days, and again there is no sign of smoke now, I'm getting it recovered tomorrow to Brighton to a mechanic unless someone on the forum comes up trumps
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Have you been using the car daily before having the checks done? Odds are you had some problems that may of gotten worse.
That mechanic has given you worst case scenario please mate get it looked at by a vw specialist in your local area have you had "Stop" pop up on your dash at all? Might be a blocked oil pickup pipe starving the turbo of oil.
No stop light has come on, and the mechanic said I could drive it?
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Have you been using the car daily before having the checks done? Odds are you had some problems that may of gotten worse.
That mechanic has given you worst case scenario please mate get it looked at by a vw specialist in your local area have you had "Stop" pop up on your dash at all? Might be a blocked oil pickup pipe starving the turbo of oil.
No stop light has come on, and the mechanic said I could drive it?
start saving buddy
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Have you been using the car daily before having the checks done? Odds are you had some problems that may of gotten worse.
That mechanic has given you worst case scenario please mate get it looked at by a vw specialist in your local area have you had "Stop" pop up on your dash at all? Might be a blocked oil pickup pipe starving the turbo of oil.
No stop light has come on, and the mechanic said I could drive it?
Any mechanic that tells you that then says you can drive it is an idiot
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Sounds like a collapsed/blocked breather pipe ,crankcase pressure that would normally go into the intake system cant, so forcing oil past the valve stem seals,just my 2p
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Nino is right, I would not be driving it at all, your making any damage worse.
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Nino is right, I would not be driving it at all, your making any damage worse.
I took niño advise! It got on a low loader and is now in Brighton find out tomorrow
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Good lad. Keep us posted.
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You need to take the TIP off at the turbo, check for play both side to side and up and down.
my turbo has recently gone, it took me 3 hours to take it off, costing me £250 for a full refurb (pound notes :whistle: ) and then ill fit it again at weekend...... worth just taking the TIP off to check before you get slammed for nearly 4 figures!
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You need to take the TIP off at the turbo, check for play both side to side and up and down.
my turbo has recently gone, it took me 3 hours to take it off, costing me £250 for a full refurb (pound notes :whistle: ) and then ill fit it again at weekend...... worth just taking the TIP off to check before you get slammed for nearly 4 figures!
okay....... here we are so far
the turbo has more play than whores fanny!!!
anyone know where I can get one from?
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damage report
turbo £320
thermostat 15.80
temp sensor £10.02
timing kit £70.80
water pump £28.80
head set £50.80
head bolt £28.77
oil filter £5.80
air filter £7.20
plugs £27.20
head test £35.00
valve seals £15.00
disks and pads £103.00
breather pipes £90.00
parts £808.37
vat £161.64
labour £500.00
total £1450!!!!
HAPPY FOOKING TUESDAY
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Whos quoted you all that? if the turbo is knackered replace that and go from there (yes there may be an underlining issue with a breather pipe or something) most of which you will do when you take the turbo out anyway as you'll lose all the oil and coolant anyway making it easier to investigate breathers and pipes as most will be coming off
Do the work yourself (if you were closer I would help) and get the turbo refurbished - job done
Is it a K03s?
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Break it for spare, cut your losses and move on might be the best option.
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Its a bit late now as the car is almost apart, new discs and pads are on and the turbo is being collected today, refurbed and fitting kit as quoted above, as for the rest ill be honest I have no faith and don't want to be in this situation anytime soon so im just going to do it.
compressions were at 150 apart from 1 cylinder at 130 but the problem is if I drive away and the valve stem seals are gone then all this will tip me over the edge.
he is a family friend and he is extremely good, so I trust him, at least it will be all done properly
I know that there were other options but no one lived closer and and we all have jobs I assume....
thanks for all your help guys I really appreciate it.
ill update as I go along and hopefully be done for thursday
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Whos quoted you all that? if the turbo is knackered replace that and go from there (yes there may be an underlining issue with a breather pipe or something) most of which you will do when you take the turbo out anyway as you'll lose all the oil and coolant anyway making it easier to investigate breathers and pipes as most will be coming off
Do the work yourself (if you were closer I would help) and get the turbo refurbished - job done
Is it a K03s?
yeah it is a K03s
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Let us know how you get on :sad:
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Ouch bud. I would strongly recommend you ensure the engine mount bolts are replaced as well otherwise they WILL snap.
Also have your oil pickup pipe replaced they commonly block straving the turbo of oil and then the turbo goes might be why yours went.
I had mine done for good measure and i was lucky as it was half blocked.
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Ouch bud. I would strongly recommend you ensure the engine mount bolts are replaced as well otherwise they WILL snap.
Also have your oil pickup pipe replaced they commonly block straving the turbo of oil and then the turbo goes might be why yours went.
I had mine done for good measure and i was lucky as it was half blocked.
thank you mate I really appreciate it
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I took my sump off and looked at my pickup pipe, there was all sorts of crud in there from metal from the threading of the sump bolt to gasket sealant where they had used too much!
Typical the one year I needed it all doing I gave it a garage who I would no longer touch with a barge pole! at least being done now (by me) I know its done right.
This is one of the problems with a garage doing work for you it may seem ok, but further down the line you get to see where they have made short cuts and cost savings rant over :evil:
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This reminds me all too well of my golf experience
Started to puff smoke a little bit when coming off boost which got worse and worse then realized my turbo was f**ked...
Came to do an oil change after low oil pressure light came on and thought would clear sump as well whilst did turbo etc... then found two crank spacers in the sump the bottom end had completly gone :/
Ended up costing me
£225 for a KO3S Low Millage
£150 for a Bottom End
£100 for a new timing belt and water pump
£75 for oil, plugs, filters and a new pick up pipe
Then lovely forum member helped me fit the lot and chucked him £100 as felt bad for amount of time it took, I would advice having a go at tackling the turbo yourself its a pain in the arse and fidly but take your time and you can do it with a basic (ish) selection of tools over a weekend.
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dude break the car, get more money for the parts involved and get a desent one, you may have a lemon there mate. if you can get the turbo sorted you should be fine however if you go over £700 you should really consider something better. if you're going to keep the car then upgrade the turbo. this would be a perfect opportunity to do this
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dude break the car, get more money for the parts involved and get a desent one, you may have a lemon there mate. if you can get the turbo sorted you should be fine however if you go over £700 you should really consider something better. if you're going to keep the car then upgrade the turbo. this would be a perfect opportunity to do this
James i do get what your saying but if you go to the beginning of this thread i picked this car for so many reasons and accepting the possibility of engine work, granted not even half what i just had to pay out.
all the work is gonna be done now and that will be pretty much the most expensive parts lol, i have 2 yrs unlimited mileage warranty on the turbo and head work so that gives me time to learn, im here with the car and have been helping every step so i learn.
when i learn more and am more confident i might do a turbo upgrade in a year, the only thing is that we missed the courier to recondition my turbo today but i only have until friday to do this, so unless someone has a turbo upgrade on here for sensible pennies thats an easy fit??
i took a video of the play in the turbo but dont know how to upload it?
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front and rears done
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Fook me man, you got shafted. I hope this is a proper lesson to you. If i was in your shoes i would take the car back and get ALL of my money back off him. That guy took the fookin p1ss. My mate had a simular problem with a mk2 16v he bought. He went god know how far and paid for it anyway on way back the car started to play up, he rang him to tell him that the car he sold him aint worth the effort. Eventualy he broke down in middle of nowere. He rang aa and they bought him and the car to his house. Next day my mate rang the guy and told him what a sh1t car the guy sold him and said i want my money back and take the car within 24hrs. Long story short my mate lost 150 on it + fuel costs but got rest back after demanding for his hard earned cash.
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I'm absolutely gutted tbh
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If you have plans for the golf and want to keep it at least you know all that your haveing fixed is done and a weight of your mind, life throws sh!t at you and u will learn lessons the hard way your not the first and wont be last, when my wife bought here beetle it had the belts and waterpump done and only done 5k before the pump failed costing us to replace it all again sh!t happens but keep on dubbin man and start to enjoy
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XMC1980 - you love the car and rightly so, looks nice and tidy, chin up bud and wait until its all sorted and the fun you have :wink:
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Cars are women (no disrespect to females) :evil:
No mater how much money you throw at them they want more. So why not fu*k it the way it likes to be fu*ked? :grin:
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Its all good I got my car in April 2012. to date including the price of the car I have spent over 6k!!! in mods and repairs.
I could of got an R32.... :lipsrsealed:
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Its all good I got my car in April 2012. to date including the price of the car I have spent over 6k!!! in mods and repairs.
I could of got an R32.... :lipsrsealed:
dont worry mate i am in the same boat :grin: :grin:
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Its all good I got my car in April 2012. to date including the price of the car I have spent over 6k!!! in mods and repairs.
I could of got an R32.... :lipsrsealed:
I've had mine since June 2011 and I'm probably close to £8k :whistle:
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I've had mine since March 2012 and only spent 100-150 pounds in parts on it
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Surprises me people are suggesting trying to get a refund
As I posted after 2,000 miles bottom end + turbo went on mine which cost me £600 with all the bits and mates labour to fit/fix with the belts etc...
Anyway I never even considered taking it back when the smoke came out to be honest if you buy private that's it really sold as seen. If it was a dealer I would suggest otherwise but once you have driven away the seller doesn't have to do anything.
Hope you get it all sorted though! :)
Must say your total cost seems high for just a turbo I got a bottom end, belts, turbo, headgasket, waterpump all oil filters and coolent for about £500 looking around then paid a mate £100 to give a hand fitting and donated my ko3s in need of a rebuilt and its still running sweet 8k miles later
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Thanks for your support guys it's been a real struggle today and I came close to hanging myself with the airline! Missus upset and crying 100miles away and I'm here till Friday as never got the turbo off in time for courier, people saying scrap it or get another engine etc... I am gonna get the whole lot done and have a tidy dub :smiley:
Again thank you all for your help and support and I'll update as I go
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Surprises me people are suggesting trying to get a refund
As I posted after 2,000 miles bottom end + turbo went on mine which cost me £600 with all the bits and mates labour to fit/fix with the belts etc...
Anyway I never even considered taking it back when the smoke came out to be honest if you buy private that's it really sold as seen. If it was a dealer I would suggest otherwise but once you have driven away the seller doesn't have to do anything.
Hope you get it all sorted though! :)
Must say your total cost seems high for just a turbo I got a bottom end, belts, turbo, headgasket, waterpump all oil filters and coolent for about £500 looking around then paid a mate £100 to give a hand fitting and donated my ko3s in need of a rebuilt and its still running sweet 8k miles later
I think £1400 for new turbo with 2yrs warranty and new head set cam and pump and everything else is okay? Considering I'm not mechanically minded, gonna learn hard and fast this week though! I just didn't want to change the turbo and find in a months time that the valve stem seals or head gasket goes cos I wouldn't cope with it all
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Ouch bud. I would strongly recommend you ensure the engine mount bolts are replaced as well otherwise they WILL snap.
Also have your oil pickup pipe replaced they commonly block straving the turbo of oil and then the turbo goes might be why yours went.
I had mine done for good measure and i was lucky as it was half blocked.
Both mechanics at this place and one of them is a very good mechanic wants to know the reason why the mount bolts WILL snap? He looked at me when I told him that like if was an idiot, and said he has replaced more than he remembers and never had one snap
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Ouch bud. I would strongly recommend you ensure the engine mount bolts are replaced as well otherwise they WILL snap.
Also have your oil pickup pipe replaced they commonly block straving the turbo of oil and then the turbo goes might be why yours went.
I had mine done for good measure and i was lucky as it was half blocked.
Both mechanics at this place and one of them is a very good mechanic wants to know the reason why the mount bolts WILL snap? He looked at me when I told him that like if was an idiot, and said he has replaced more than he remembers and never had one snap
if you mark the bolts with a centre punch or spot of tipex you can tighten them to exactly where they were before. just make sure each bolt goes to the same hole it came out of :wink:
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Ouch bud. I would strongly recommend you ensure the engine mount bolts are replaced as well otherwise they WILL snap.
Also have your oil pickup pipe replaced they commonly block straving the turbo of oil and then the turbo goes might be why yours went.
I had mine done for good measure and i was lucky as it was half blocked.
Both mechanics at this place and one of them is a very good mechanic wants to know the reason why the mount bolts WILL snap? He looked at me when I told him that like if was an idiot, and said he has replaced more than he remembers and never had one snap
if you mark the bolts with a centre punch or spot of tipex you can tighten them to exactly where they were before. just make sure each bolt goes to the same hole it came out of :wink:
Okay my man! I'll be doing those then :whistle:
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Have a look in my build thread you will see what happens if the bolts arnt changed.
The bolts are what is known as strecthed bolts and I was told they can only be used once and must be replaced once removed and torqued correctly otherwise they snap in the block.
You have to then have them drilled out of the block and cost me over £700!! I know these machcanics repair cars everyday but they will never have the knowledge that ethuthiasts have on certain models of cars.
For example not all machinics know that cable driven throttle bodys self allign after awhile or that some cars that constantly get the 17705 boost leak error code are known as "ghost codes" and can only be fixed via a map.
Also not many will know what the SAI pump is or what it does.
The bolts cost like £18 from VW personally after what your paying and for the shake of "Just in case" id change them.
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Brand new ko4 turbo going on :)
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You need some supporting mods on that XMC1980 its not just a case of throwing it on
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spoke to the chap from beach buggy turbos and was told it was a direct fit replacement but ive gone back on myself now, im getting the ko3s rebuilt
the head is just being stripped now, and thankfully the bottom end is beautiful, lovely markings in the sleeve its all good :)
rocker cover has been painted in black
head gasked was only marginally pitted
get the valve stem seals done and head tested and cleaned today
get a few pics on as soon as i can
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You will need to change more than Just the turbo for a ko4
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So was the turbo fooked? Anything else wrong with it? Like said before if going k04 you need more than just the k04 turbo.
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So was the turbo fooked? Anything else wrong with it? Like said before if going k04 you need more than just the k04 turbo.
Turbo was truly fooked! But I'm having head set and valve seals and all the other bits for peace of mind
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Get it ported and polished :grin:
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Get it ported and polished :grin:
yeah its being done too :smiley:
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thats enough for today :drool:
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TPS parts are really good quality :smiley:
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TPS parts are really good quality :smiley:
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you do know that tps sell genuine parts?? Lols. But i have heard that they also sell refurbished parts too.
how much is the porting & polishing costing you?
When the car is back on the road take it easy for the 1st 600 odd miles (i did it upto 1k miles) didnt driver over 2k revs for 200 miles then not over 3k revs and so on. But others will say different.
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TPS parts are really good quality :smiley:
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you do know that tps sell genuine parts?? Lols. But i have heard that they also sell refurbished parts too.
how much is the porting & polishing costing you?
When the car is back on the road take it easy for the 1st 600 odd miles (i did it upto 1k miles) didnt driver over 2k revs for 200 miles then not over 3k revs and so on. But others will say different.
I realised this when I rang VW and they were out of stock for a few parts so they referred me to TPS, the part numbers and engineering marks confirmed it.
Yeah I'm gonna treat it like a run in service with a new car, the fact all the brakes are new will help me behave :)
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Oh yeah, go easy on the brakes too. They will need bedding in.
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gone for rover blue and finished with silver speckles
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Turbo engineer said that there is no sign of engine damage which is a Brucey bonus :smiley:
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Funny how when you are doing springs you triple check everything lol
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Turbo has arrived :)
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Wow bud. This it going to be like a new car :)
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Thanks dude :)) it's been a slog
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Ported and polished, new valve stem seals and valves properly done
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Got a better pic of the porting?? How much did the porting and polishing cost you? Also did you get the jnlet and exhaust ports matched up?
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Sorry couldn't get any more shots, I basically had to drive to Brighton TPS to get engine mount bolts and when I got back the head was down!! Damn it! The turbo is on now too, hopefully button it up tomorrow
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£180
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Well atleast you know your head is fresh now :grin:
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Hacked right off!! Need a engine mount before Monday morning :( the animal that did the last cambelt needs a slap!
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Its all good I got my car in April 2012. to date including the price of the car I have spent over 6k!!! in mods and repairs.
I could of got an R32.... :lipsrsealed:
dont worry mate i am in the same boat :grin: :grin:
Finally someone in this section admits a MK4 is in a different league to the MK3 :laugh:
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Hacked right off!! Need a engine mount before Monday morning :( the animal that did the last cambelt needs a slap!
Bit like triggers broom this car :wink
Chin up it happens to us all
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Hacked right off!! Need a engine mount before Monday morning :( the animal that did the last cambelt needs a slap!
Bit like triggers broom this car :wink
Chin up it happens to us all
Seriously that person shouldn't be allowed within 10ft of a car! The intellectual part is still dripping down his mums leg
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All done :cool:
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Whole purpose to paint rocker is to show it off. Take off the engine cover.
also cars looking nice. Did you let the seller know all about this?
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Looking nice! can't beat a dewipered rear :whistle: mines just the same minus the badges too :cool:
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Whole purpose to paint rocker is to show it off. Take off the engine cover.
also cars looking nice. Did you let the seller know all about this?
I'm going to take the cover off when I do the ultimate delete :smiley: thanks bro and I did contact the seller but he refuses to reply or call me back? Can I go to a small claims court?
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I did contact the seller but he refuses to reply or call me back? Can I go to a small claims court?
Was it a private sale ? if so very little you can do, case of buyer beware at the end of the day.
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I did contact the seller but he refuses to reply or call me back? Can I go to a small claims court?
Was it a private sale ? if so very little you can do, case of buyer beware at the end of the day.
Yes it was private :\ gutted
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Looks great how she driving?
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Looks great how she driving?
Drives so good! And sounds so quiet and nice :) only teething problem I have is that twice today the needle shot to red and the dials said "stop" "check coolant" and within 30 seconds went back to normal.
I am really pleased overall just need to find out what that fault is.
Thanks :wink:
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If I'm about at the weekend I'll come scan it for ya ;)
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Thanks rio I really appreciate it :smiley:
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Replaced sensor from VW and all done and working well :)
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Can't believe how well the car drives after the rebuild... Just need to get it mapped now, hopefully should see around 215-220?
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Can't believe how well the car drives after the rebuild... Just need to get it mapped now, hopefully should see around 215-220?
To see that performance you will have to replace a few things. Wont cost you a fortune but personally i wouldnt leave it all standard. Also remember to run it in
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Can't believe how well the car drives after the rebuild... Just need to get it mapped now, hopefully should see around 215-220?
To see that performance you will have to replace a few things. Wont cost you a fortune but personally i wouldnt leave it all standard. Also remember to run it in
Nino you guided me well so far my friend, what do you think then?
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Can't believe how well the car drives after the rebuild... Just need to get it mapped now, hopefully should see around 215-220?
To see that performance you will have to replace a few things. Wont cost you a fortune but personally i wouldnt leave it all standard. Also remember to run it in
Nino you guided me well so far my friend, what do you think then?
Is the engine standard at the moment? If so a remap alone will see about 200bhp.
I'd be looking at adding the following before getting it mapped:
- Forge 007p or 008p
- Decent panel filter or induction kit
- Full exhaust including downpipe
- Decent silicone boost hoses
That lot should see you at around the 220bhp mark, for anything more you're going to need a FMIC and other bits and pieces.
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Can't believe how well the car drives after the rebuild... Just need to get it mapped now, hopefully should see around 215-220?
To see that performance you will have to replace a few things. Wont cost you a fortune but personally i wouldnt leave it all standard. Also remember to run it in
Nino you guided me well so far my friend, what do you think then?
Is the engine standard at the moment? If so a remap alone will see about 200bhp.
I'd be looking at adding the following before getting it mapped:
- Forge 007p or 008p
- Decent panel filter or induction kit
- Full exhaust including downpipe
- Decent silicone boost hoses
That lot should see you at around the 220bhp mark, for anything more you're going to need a FMIC and other bits and pieces.
Thanks Dom, I think I can manage with most of that it's just the exhaust that's giving me a headache, sooo expensive and I can't find anything sensible, might have to wait till the end of the summer as the exhaust and remap I imagine will be around £700-£800
Car is completely standard minus lowering kit and wheels
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R-tech remap cost is about £290 I think, as for the exhaust a downpipe can be had from eBay for less than £90, the cat-back is the expensive part.
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Take a look at my build to see the type of stuff to change.
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Take a look at my build to see the type of stuff to change.
Just about to trawl through it Nino :cool:
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Take a look at my build to see the type of stuff to change.
Love your build thread mate :cool: f**k me you were unlucky :) bit like me! Thanks too you I changed my engine mount bolts!
I love the front grill and the the r32 bumper! How much was the respray bro?
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Might wrap my front grill :whistle: in black
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My mate owns the garage that did it so i only paid for paint :)
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Nt a bad mate to have!!! :)
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Turbo has arrived :)
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Turbo has arrived :)
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Where did you get your turbo from? How much?
I had mine reconditioned, picture to follow
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Just took the car for a 200 mile round trip and had a check on all the bolts and pipes and feeds, dropped the oil out and filled it up with freshness, oh and changed the cabin filter as I forgot all about that, it was filthy!
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Noticed some fresh oil on the floor today :( will get under it in the morning and check!
Did fit my new s200 filter today thanks to Gabriel :) cheers mate
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Gonna clean my TB tomorrow too? What do you think?
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Done the TB clean up today, but it was spotless anyways! Easy job :)
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Don't worry about a remap, nick at RTech has already done it ;)
Mike.
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This used to be my car, I sold it in 2011 and it was fantastic. I took it to a few shows on the ukmkivs clubstand. started off totally standard.
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This used to be my car, I sold it in 2011 and it was fantastic. I took it to a few shows on the ukmkivs clubstand. started off totally standard.
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there it is in the background!
Love the car mike, was great chatting earlier and well done on what you did with her, just gotta find this scoundrel now.
I'll keep it for years now :smiley:
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Back in 2010
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during the transformation
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Hmmmmm what will I get if I remap the car?
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The graph show the before and after wheel bhp and flywheel bhp (in brackets).
before was 182 bhp(standard), after remap was 206 bhp :)
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Mike thanks for the info! Pleasure talking to you earlier, I like the bra on it :cool: good work with it pal
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Hmmmmm what will I get if I remap the car?
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The graph show the before and after wheel bhp and flywheel bhp (in brackets).
before was 182 bhp(standard), after remap was 206 bhp :)
I'm not sure it's hitting that figure now? And that's with everything brand new, would he charge to check the Map is still running correctly?
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Not sure, probably just a run on the rollers, normally around £50 I think.
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Established today the car is running circa 217bhp :)
Need a forge 007 now and looking at buying a exhaust system of eBay, what are your opinions on it as it doesn't seem to be branded?
Cheers guys
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217! That's pretty good, which rollers was that on? I'm guessing that's on super unleaded too.
It had a forge 007p on when I had it so someone must of removed it.
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217! That's pretty good, which rollers was that on? I'm guessing that's on super unleaded too.
It had a forge 007p on when I had it so someone must of removed it.
It's just a guess Mike, I say circa because a friend has a MKV running 210 and we rinsed them yesterday. :whistle:
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Headliner and pillars out :) paint time
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New plates
Interior now black
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Easy now rude boi. What did you use for the headlining?
I know this has been said before but have you started a project thread?
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New grill
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I thought this was the project thread!
Are the plastics painted too or genuine black ones?
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Easy now rude boi. What did you use for the headlining?
I know this has been said before but have you started a project thread?
Hey bro!
I used satin black acrylic on a airline, looks the nuts!
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Preferred the anni front valance to the jom airblade
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I thought this was the project thread!
Are the plastics painted too or genuine black ones?
Everything painted really well apart from seatbelt covers, I'll have to get some black ones, even the visors turned up nice.
Should I move this thread then?
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You could ask a mod to move it for you. What belts are you after? Theres a top bloke in matlock who breaks mk4s for a joke. He loves his annis. He has tons of stuff for the mk4. Look in the good guys section.
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Thanks man ill have a word with Dom, as for the belts I'm after the plastic surrounds on the belt sliders that bolt on to the pillar, e everything else turned out good!
Thanks made ill have a look :)
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What would you guys say this car is worth if I were to sell it?
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Moved at XMC1980's request :wink:
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sell it, after all that work? I don't think you'd get what you've spent back to be honest.
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oh yeah, also in your sig it says lm reps, but they're new style Audi rs4 reps mate :)
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Ha I did put lmao reps lol thanks Mike! I did some homework mate and it looks like I'd get 2500 and it's not worth letting it go for that, I'll be keeping it as a daily and save for an R.... wish I'd never lost the M3 tbh.... how's tricks pal?
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Just got hold of a audi tt ARB and all the bits for my adjustable drop links too :) massive thank you to Dom and Wazzer!
Hopefully fit it next week :whistle:
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So.... Bought and fitted centre armrest today, love it! Hopefully I can fit the tt ARB and drop links on Tuesday, I'll probably do the oil pick up pipe and oil change too :)
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Few pics at Goodwood
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Thanks Gabriel for the pictures! Top man