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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 19:25

Title: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 19:25
Hi Guys

So Im close to placing an order on the MK7 GTD

Im undecided on a couple of bits and thought I would ask your advice:

On my Scirocco I currently have the RNS-510 and love the on board HDD to store my Music. I Use the Nav a couple of times a week and I find the screen etc fine. Would have been better if the directions etc from the NAV showed up on the MFD.

So I defo want the Nav on the GTD but do I go for the Discover Nav or Nav Pro ? Other than the larger screen, more advanced maps and on board storage what are the other benefits fro going for the Pro ? And can I justify paying an additional £990 or something for it

Secondly do I go for Oryx or Pure White. Local Dealer was unable to show me either of these as they are currently being refurbished and only had a Red GTI in stock from the MK7 Range. Does anyone have a GTD in either colour or even better a side by side comparison of the two

Other than that if you go for the Keyless Entry do you get a different key to the normal ? And what is the key like on the new GTI/GTD

Thanks
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 19:39
Hi, to be fair you already highlighted the main differences between the standard and pro nav.  You can play movies on the pro nav as well via DVD or SD/USB, and you get podcast capabilities...  Personally, for what I want to use it for, I can think of far better things to spend £990 on, but each unto their own and only you can make that choice!  With the price and size of SD cards though, a built in HDD is a bit pointless for me.

As for Oryx vs Pure, again it's a personal thing and a matter of around £700 or so difference.  It's not as "bright" as pure if that makes sense, maybe a bit more like the candy white.  Personally, I am not keen on white pearl paints as the oyster shell shimmer is a bit feminine, but its one you are going to have to see for yourself in the flesh first.  Again, I didn't bother with the more expensive option.

I've gone for keyless, and I believe that externally the key looks and functions just the same.  It has the same flip-out motion and open/close buttons.  Looks nicer than the normal Golf key:

(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/blaarp1/image_zps157b9923.jpg)

Title: Re: Options
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 August 2013, 19:42
I went for the pro nav as I think the keyless is a pointless toy  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 19:44
Oh right cool

I Like the GTI thing at the bottom of the key. Is this identical to the GTD with the obvious change on the end ?

I have noticed on some pics the Nav says GTI when it is turned on ? Does the GTD do the same

I have Candy White in my Scirocco. So Pure White will be brighter than this ? Having had an Audi before is the Pure White comparable to: Ibis White ?
Oryx White - Sounds like the Glacier White on the Audi's / Mineral White BMW ?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 19:45
I only want Keyless for the Stop/Start button. ha
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 19:47
I went for the pro nav as I think the keyless is a pointless toy  :grin: :grin:

Haha!  mcmaddy strikes back! :grin:  I went for keyless because it adds additionaly functionality I'll use everyday, as opposed to what would effectively be, for me, an extra £990 for a slightly larger screen.

We all have our justifications, nobody is right or wrong on this one! ;)

I Like the GTI thing at the bottom of the key. Is this identical to the GTD with the obvious change on the end ?

I have noticed on some pics the Nav says GTI when it is turned on ? Does the GTD do the same

I have Candy White in my Scirocco. So Pure White will be brighter than this ? Having had an Audi before is the Pure White comparable to: Ibis White ?
Oryx White - Sounds like the Glacier White on the Audi's / Mineral White BMW ?

Yep, the GTD key has the GTD logo on it.

Again, yep, pure white is brighter than candy white, but like most whites it is only massively noticeable when they are side-by-side.  I would think that the Glacier/Mineral white analogy is close to the mark.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 26 August 2013, 19:48
It's been so long since I ordered I've forgotten what options I've added  :rolleyes: :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 19:48
When did you order and when does it arrive ? lol
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 19:50
It's been so long since I ordered I've forgotten what options I've added  :rolleyes: :laugh:

You know what mate, I genuinely had to look at my order form the other day to get the list of things for me to check!  :grin:

When did you order and when does it arrive ? lol

I ordered mine back in mid-April.  It's with the dealer right now, will be prepped for collection from 1st September I hope!

Sorry, I just noticed you asked about the logo upon turning on.  I can only assume that the GTD shows a GTD logo, otherwise that would be a bit annoying for said owners! ;)
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 26 August 2013, 20:04
When did you order and when does it arrive ? lol

At the risk of boring everyone, I ordered 8th April and the mother f7cker still hasn't been built yet despite having a BW of 33 (confirmed)  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 20:08
Hmmm

Nav - Discover nav is more than adequate, however if you have money to burn why not! Nav audio is good and the directions and more are also displayed on the mfd screen so you don't have to look at the main screen.

Colour - I have oryx and it is ... Amazing, don't listen to the majority on here whining about it being too much money and not different to pure white. Don't get nav pro and get this. After all, all the other colours are so uninspiring and bland. And you can tell the difference between 'emulsion' white and oryx. Photos don't do it justice but in the flesh it more like a really light silver.

Keyless - This adds a nice touch once you get used to it, but you don't get any different or special key although it is slightly larger than the previous mk6 key

Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 20:15
Colour - I have oryx and it is ... Amazing, don't listen to the majority on here whining about it being too much money and not different to pure white. Don't get nav pro and get this. After all, all the other colours are so uninspiring and bland. And you can tell the difference between 'emulsion' white and oryx. Photos don't do it justice but in the flesh it more like a really light silver.

I don't recall whining about it or saying there is no difference, although at a distance...and it is a considered amount of extra money.  "emulsion" white?  :whistle:  If iridescent paint is your bag then oryx is a very good, albeit relatively expensive choice.  Is CSG uninspiring though?  Red bland?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 20:17
I should come have a look at yours  :grin: im in West Yorkshire aswell. ha
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 20:33
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I don't recall whining about it or saying there is no difference, although at a distance...and it is a considered amount of extra money.  "emulsion" white?  :whistle:  If iridescent paint is your bag then oryx is a very good, albeit relatively expensive choice.  Is CSG uninspiring though?  Red bland?
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Sorry, I forgot that I mentioned particular people in my last post! The number of people not choosing oryx and the number people slating it because of its price and appearance is exactly the reason why it's a good option to go for because its different

Chose what ever option you want and can afford. Life would be pretty sh!t if we were all the same. Can you imagine everybody driving the same car and colour??
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 20:41
Im going to give serious thought to Oryx White

Think I will go for the Discovery Nav as I cant justify the additional cost
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 20:42
I should come have a look at yours  :grin: im in West Yorkshire aswell. ha

Could be up for that   :grin:

Need to get 'team oryx' going  :laugh:

You don't want to feel a bit of a tit when you see an oryx golf in the flesh, having bought a pure white car.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 26 August 2013, 20:55
Can you imagine everybody driving the same car and colour??
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What, like white?  :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 20:57
@rick2b, I just find the manner in which you seem to be defending and justifying your choice at the expense of insulting/belittling others a bit off, that's all.  As you said, buy what you want and can afford.  Clearly you value the external appearance of your car, and that's fine.  I've gone for options that are generally inside the car because that's of more value to me.

Why would I feel a tit pulling up next to an oryx GTD in my pure white GTI?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 21:09
@rick2b, I just find the manner in which you seem to be defending and justifying your choice at the expense of insulting others a bit off, that's all.  As you said, buy what you want and can afford.  Clearly you value the external appearance of your car, and that's fine.  I've gone for options that are generally inside the car because that's of more value to me.

Why would I feel a tit pulling up next to an oryx GTD in my pure white GTI?

I obviously need to dispose of my attempted humour and half hearted sarcasm ! (Maybe I should have bought a bmw)
I have probably spent too much time reading threads on here to be fair

I don't apologise for trying to have a light hearted discussion, with some like I say attempted humour, but if anyone was really put off then I apologise

If I really didn't like white, I would not have bought a white mk6 and then bought another 'white' golf.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 26 August 2013, 21:09
@rick2b, I just find the manner in which you seem to be defending and justifying your choice at the expense of insulting/belittling others a bit off, that's all.  As you said, buy what you want and can afford.  Clearly you value the external appearance of your car, and that's fine.  I've gone for options that are generally inside the car because that's of more value to me.

Why would I feel a tit pulling up next to an oryx GTD in my pure white GTI?  :rolleyes:

The point is you wouldn't. Because you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  :rolleyes:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 August 2013, 21:16
I think we've all forgotten the most important option of all, and it doesn't cost a thing, but you probably won't get it if you ask for it - an on time delivery!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 21:18
@rick2b, I just find the manner in which you seem to be defending and justifying your choice at the expense of insulting/belittling others a bit off, that's all.  As you said, buy what you want and can afford.  Clearly you value the external appearance of your car, and that's fine.  I've gone for options that are generally inside the car because that's of more value to me.

Why would I feel a tit pulling up next to an oryx GTD in my pure white GTI?  :rolleyes:

The point is you wouldn't. Because you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  :rolleyes:  :laugh:


I don't know if to  :laugh: or to  :cry:

What the hell  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 21:26
I obviously need to dispose of my attempted humour and half hearted sarcasm ! (Maybe I should have bought a bmw)
I have probably spent too much time reading threads on here to be fair

I don't apologise for trying to have a light hearted discussion, with some like I say attempted humour, but if anyone was really put off then I apologise

If I really didn't like white, I would not have bought a white mk6 and then bought another 'white' golf.

There's light-hearted in person and light-hearted on forums.  All I read was you calling people whiners and tits for thinking oryx is too expensive, no different, and for choosing pure white instead.

If it makes any difference, I apologise for how I interpreted things.  Let's just leave it there, move on, and enjoy/look forward to our cars :)
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 26 August 2013, 21:38
No doubt Oryx white will be far rarer than pure white so will make it stand out more. I didn't really consider it because for me I had other priorities but it definitely is nice. I went for the nav pro almost bevause I just really liked how the big screen integrated so well into the dashboard and just looked do nice, but its hell of expensive and the standard nav would be absolutely fine.

I love the keyless entry. Again probably completely unnecessary but its just so cool and I'm a bit of a gadget freak
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 21:42
I'm right with you there CraigW, I'm definitely a bit of a gadget freak, and I guess that in truth, had I not loaded up with all the other gadgets, the pro nav might have got a look in.  But, I settled on basic because it really is more than adequate, and left money over for the stupidly expensive heated screen!  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 21:45
On a more serious note, honestly, the park pilot system as a standard feature is great and in my opinion is a really good suitable parking aid and there is no need to add the reversing camera if people are wanting a park aid. Just saying
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 26 August 2013, 21:46
The cost of the heated screen was just a bit to hard for me to justify. Anyway I specced the winter pack cause I would rather have a heated arse than a heated screen  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 26 August 2013, 21:50
On a more serious note, honestly, the park pilot system as a standard feature is great and in my opinion is a really good suitable parking aid and there is no need to add the reversing camera if people are wanting a park aid. Just saying

Yeah I'm sure it's more than adequate on its own to be honest, but I figured for the little money it costs in relative terms, and having never had one before, I specced the camera.  Will be useful for when you are just reversing in general as well.

The cost of the heated screen was just a bit to hard for me to justify. Anyway I specced the winter pack cause I would rather have a heated arse than a heated screen  :grin:

Haha, too right, I added the winter pack as well - sick of not having a warm arse in the cold weather!  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 August 2013, 21:53
I obviously need to dispose of my attempted humour and half hearted sarcasm ! (Maybe I should have bought a bmw)

Hey!  What you trying to say here mate? :smug: :laugh: :wink: :whistle:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: TDI-line on 26 August 2013, 22:02
MM, the Oryx white is more likely a crystal based paint, hence the cost, and probably would have a better shimmer than Glacier white (Audi). VW only list it as a special paint, but for £900 odd, it won't be just a pearl base.

The RS4 has Prism Silver, crystal effect and Panther Black, crystal effect which cost £865.

As you know Audi extra's are over the top, but this paint for a larger estate car seems even reasonable.


Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 26 August 2013, 22:05
I obviously need to dispose of my attempted humour and half hearted sarcasm ! (Maybe I should have bought a bmw)

Hey!  What you trying to say here mate? :smug: :laugh: :wink: :whistle:

Ooohh
Don't want to get on the wrong side of more people tonite
Anyway, I hope you enjoy your bmw. I think there amazing   :wink:
 
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 August 2013, 22:18
Don't worry, I expect some good natured ribbing!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 26 August 2013, 22:55
Seems like the waiting time on the GTD/GTI is nuts at the moment. Feel sorry for you guys who have had your orders put back.

Ive been quoted 18-22 weeks for the GTD, longer if i want to add the reversing camera which I really wanted on the new car.

Does anyone have a Picture of the GTD Start up Screen and the Discovery/Discovery Pro Nav ?

I really need to see Oryx in the flesh before I can plump for it, at the min its making £15 pm difference to my PCP Quote.
The main draw for Oryx white is it will be a rarer white. Can you PM me some pics of the Oryx GTD ?  :smiley:

Rick2b - Let me know when you want me to come check the car out, ha  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



Title: Re: Options
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 August 2013, 07:55
Seems like the waiting time on the GTD/GTI is nuts at the moment. Feel sorry for you guys who have had your orders put back.

Ive been quoted 18-22 weeks for the GTD, longer if i want to add the reversing camera which I really wanted on the new car.

Does anyone have a Picture of the GTD Start up Screen and the Discovery/Discovery Pro Nav ?

I really need to see Oryx in the flesh before I can plump for it, at the min its making £15 pm difference to my PCP Quote.
The main draw for Oryx white is it will be a rarer white. Can you PM me some pics of the Oryx GTD ?  :smiley:

Rick2b - Let me know when you want me to come check the car out, ha  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Oryx white is £15pm more than pure white? In reality then it is costing you £540 more (seems to retain about £400 of it's cost, assuming that pure white is the baseline/retains zero).
Title: Re: Options
Post by: p3asa on 27 August 2013, 23:32
On my Scirocco I currently have the RNS-510 and love the on board HDD to store my Music. I Use the Nav a couple of times a week and I find the screen etc fine. Would have been better if the directions etc from the NAV showed up on the MFD.


Is it not meant to show up on the MFD the way it does on the MK6 Golf? I thought that was standard.
Did you add the RNS-510 as a retro fit?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Misterp on 27 August 2013, 23:34
Do you think there will be an option to retro fit a reversing camera.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 27 August 2013, 23:38
Yep it was a retro-fit
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Jimble on 28 August 2013, 03:56
Do you think there will be an option to retro fit a reversing camera.

No doubt, someone will figure it out if they haven't already?! However it'll be quite an expensive retrofit if the mk6 was anything to go by? :sick:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 August 2013, 07:50
As I've said countless times before on a multiple of threads carsystems.pl have been selling the full camera kits for the mk7 for over 6 months now. Its about 350 quid plus fitting and coding so it works out at around 500 quid at least for a 165 option. rather expensive if you ask me along with the fact that your pulling panels off your new car and then splicing wiring.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Jimble on 28 August 2013, 08:05
As I've said countless times before on a multiple of threads carsystems.pl have been selling the full camera kits for the mk7 for over 6 months now. Its about 350 quid plus fitting and coding so it works out at around 500 quid at least for a 165 option. rather expensive if you ask me along with the fact that your pulling panels off your new car and then splicing wiring.


You'll get used to repeating yourself mate! ::)
Title: Re: Options
Post by: JoeGTI on 28 August 2013, 08:26
Yep it was a retro-fit

With VAG-Com you could have enabled the nav menu on your MFD.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 09:58
Really ?

I will have to find someone with it to do this for me
Title: Re: Options
Post by: JoeGTI on 28 August 2013, 10:24
Really ?

I will have to find someone with it to do this for me

Yes, definitely. I had an RNS retro fitted to my MK6 GTD. A friend did it for me, so I don't know the exact setting, but unless you explicitly set it via vag-com, then your MFD won't show the Nav directions and your RNS isn't properly installed.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: stuart.cameron on 28 August 2013, 10:34
Options I went for:

Discovery Nav Pro - Very expensive but went for it as it finishes the interior and looks good
Keyless - Mainly for the keyless start, and so I don't have to fish my key out my pocket
Winter Pack - Cant have a cold bum in the winter!
Park Assist - Just a bit of a gizmo really
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 10:52
I really want the rear camera but they wont take an order on it even though I dont mind the extended wait as I know the retro-fit is quite expensive.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 August 2013, 10:54
I really want the rear camera but they wont take an order on it even though I dont mind the extended wait as I know the retro-fit is quite expensive.

What are you after, a GTI?

You could always call my dealer and ask to have the car I cancelled.  It has a rear camera speced.  Of course, you won't get to change any other options so depends how much of a big deal that camera is to you.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 11:11
A GTD
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 11:12
Honestly why would you be prepared to wait ages for a camera. The park assist is perfectly adequate and the camera thing is just a sideshow for passengers
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 28 August 2013, 11:26
Honestly why would you be prepared to wait ages for a camera. The park assist is perfectly adequate and the camera thing is just a sideshow for passengers

+1  Why let a gimmick (just my opinion of course) stop you getting the car you want??
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 August 2013, 11:35
Honestly why would you be prepared to wait ages for a camera. The park assist is perfectly adequate and the camera thing is just a sideshow for passengers

+1  Why let a gimmick (just my opinion of course) stop you getting the car you want??

Camera is pretty useful, isn't the park assist more of a gimmick?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 11:41
Honestly why would you be prepared to wait ages for a camera. The park assist is perfectly adequate and the camera thing is just a sideshow for passengers

+1  Why let a gimmick (just my opinion of course) stop you getting the car you want??

Camera is pretty useful, isn't the park assist more of a gimmick?

Nope. The park assist on the car is standard and is all you would need to help you to park (you shouldn't really need any assistance to park). The camera being an option is not required IMO.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: JohnP on 28 August 2013, 11:43
Honestly why would you be prepared to wait ages for a camera. The park assist is perfectly adequate and the camera thing is just a sideshow for passengers

Havre you not seen Jack Reacher? He wouldn't have been able to reverse into the quarry with guys shooting at him with machine guns without a rear camera. You just never know when it will be needed?!  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 11:49
 :grin:

Ummmm if its going to add months and not weeks then I would take it without the camera.

What do you mean Park Assist is standard ?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 11:51
:grin:

Ummmm if its going to add months and not weeks then I would take it without the camera.

What do you mean Park Assist is standard ?

The car has sensors in the front and rear which beep and show you a graphic on the media unit to warn you when your getting close to an object
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 12:05
Oh right you mean the OPS Parking Sensors
Title: Re: Options
Post by: theflash on 28 August 2013, 12:08

Nope. The park assist on the car is standard and is all you would need to help you to park (you shouldn't really need any assistance to park). The camera being an option is not required IMO.

Can you please tell that to my wife?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 August 2013, 12:17
:grin:

Ummmm if its going to add months and not weeks then I would take it without the camera.

What do you mean Park Assist is standard ?

The car has sensors in the front and rear which beep and show you a graphic on the media unit to warn you when your getting close to an object

We're not talking about the park sensors though Craig.  We're talking about the optional extra "park assist" function that does the parking for you that stuart refereed to as one of his extras.

I agree that the "parking distance control", or parking sensors, are all you need.  However, if it is a choice between the camera and the parking assist I say the camera is less of a gimmick.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 12:32
I mainly want the camera for the fact I have to reverse blind out of my drive onto a main road, and my stupid neighbours park their Merc Family Van thing right to edge of our diving wall, so reversing is quite often like roulette, the camera is just extra peace of mind.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 August 2013, 13:12
I had the standard parking sensors on my jetta and whilst they were fine they are totally different to park assist which i have on my tiguan. The camera with park assist is the top set up and certainly not a gimmick or anything to prove you cant park a car. I know i keep mentioning keyless entry but does having that mean your incapable of putting your key in the ignition?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 13:16
Apologies for the confusion. Yes I was talking about the parking distance control which to me is more than enough assistance for parking.

Title: Re: Options
Post by: mcmaddy on 28 August 2013, 15:55
camera will come in really handy for people with back and neck problems. Should reduce the need to turn round completely.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 16:08
camera will come in really handy for people with back and neck problems. Should reduce the need to turn round completely.

Exactly, the reversing camera is precisely that, not just for parking.  It will be useful for any situation when you are going backwards.  For parking though, the camera with the sensors is all I wanted.  I've been in cars that park themselves and while it's cool, and it works, it also unnerves me and isn't something I'd use much, although for the money it's cheap enough.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: dippy_x on 28 August 2013, 17:34
The only reason I have specced park assist is because in the grand scheme of things the cost is bugger all.  Never had a car with it and not sure how much I would use it.  Reverse cam is pretty much bugger all cost wise as well but I can see this being something that would be handy to have for safety aspects.  Again never had a car with it yet.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 18:07
I just though add everything I want ... Regret nothing later :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 28 August 2013, 20:02
Don't get yourself too hung up on the options or you will be thinking about them every day... It will drive you mad.
The cars pretty damn good as standard so try to think of any extras as a luxury non essential gadget that you may never use but is there should you need it.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 20:13
Don't get yourself too hung up on the options or you will be thinking about them every day... It will drive you mad.
The cars pretty damn good as standard so try to think of any extras as a luxury non essential gadget that you may never use but is there should you need it.

Exactly!  It's easy to go mad when choosing them too, so I basically added stuff that I knew I definitely wanted, or knew I would use/appreciate.  No second thoughts here, certainly not after seeing my car for the first time today...that thing doesn't need any gadgets just the way it sits on the road! :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 20:17
So far this is where I am up to:

GTD 3dr Manual
Pure White
Santiago Alloys - Essential as they look R8' ish
Discovery Nav - Essential for work
DynaAudio - Lots of driving = Lots of listening to Radio / SD Card
Park Assist - I like my Gadgets and it looks cool, and cheap so may as well have it !

Keyless Entry - Not Essential but I like the look of the Stop/Start Button.
Winter Pack - Not Essential - But may be worth it for the Heated Seats and Washer Jets ??? :shocked:

Service Plan - Defo worth it at £199 !
Title: Re: Options
Post by: JJH on 28 August 2013, 20:43
No rush to order it then, it's not like you'll have to wait long for it is it, not.

Have you considered DSG, 5dr, Oryx, sunroof, nav pro, and the camera ??

Only joking, just order the bloody thing and put us out of our (and your) misery.

Go on son, you can do it............take a deep breath, sign on up and join the crazy, torturous wait.

Mines been ' ......4 weeks' all week, nothing going on here.

Saw a red GTD in a dealers parking lot today, trick!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: rick2b on 28 August 2013, 20:47
The keyless option is the one I am most happy with. It adds a nice premium effect to the car. Not having to fanny about with the key to get in and start the damn thing is so pleasing. Would recommend this as an option over anything else.

Sorry if this confuses your options again
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 20:49
The keyless option is the one I am most happy with. It adds a nice premium effect to the car. Not having to fanny about with the key to get in and start the damn thing is so pleasing. Would recommend this as an option over anything else.

Sorry if this confuses your options again

Keyless and the camera were the first to get ticked!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 20:56
Is Winter Pack worth the £355 ?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: JoeGTI on 28 August 2013, 20:59
The keyless option is the one I am most happy with. It adds a nice premium effect to the car. Not having to fanny about with the key to get in and start the damn thing is so pleasing. Would recommend this as an option over anything else.

Sorry if this confuses your options again

Agreed. I'd have it ahead of the camera no question.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 21:01
No options are worth the money. They are luxury items that may enhance your ownership experience but are unnecessary. If you can afford it then go for it. Your effectively paying the money for heated seats and that's about it.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 21:05
Is Winter Pack worth the £355 ?

It's not the best value option on the list, but if you want heated seats then you have to make the call, nobody else can (or indeed should) decide for you!  I went for it as I want to be kept warm in winter.

CraigW is kinda' right, but I disagree on some things like the camera and park assist that if specced, are cheap, effective options.  Taking it further, the entire car is a luxury so I just look at options as part of the cost of the car and be done with it.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 21:09
Is Winter Pack worth the £355 ?

It's not the best value option on the list, but if you want heated seats then you have to make the call, nobody else can (or indeed should) decide for you!  I went for it as I want to be kept warm in winter.

CraigW is kinda' right, but I disagree on some things like the camera and park assist that if specced, are cheap, effective options.  Taking it further, the entire car is a luxury so I just look at options as part of the cost of the car and be done with it.


 :grin: :grin: :grin: We are never going to agree on this camera subject. If your fit, healthy, can look behind you and the DVLA have agreed that you can reverse park (i.e. by giving you a license) then you don't need a camera
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 21:25
:grin: :grin: :grin: We are never going to agree on this camera subject. If your fit, healthy, can look behind you and the DVLA have agreed that you can reverse park (i.e. by giving you a license) then you don't need a camera

Haha!  :grin: 

I didn't say you need a camera.  It's nice to have, just like the entire car is nice to have.  Is not about being unable to look behind you, or about reverse parking.  It's just convenient to be able to see exactly what is behind you when reversing as opposed to the usual restricted view.

Every option can be argued for or against by those who bought or chose not to!  Far from not needing a camera, I don't see why anybody would need pro nav over basic nav (or being pedantic, any form of nav at all). Rinse, and repeat!  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 21:37
 :grin: too funny

Can of worms has been opened here

Do I need Heated Seats - No
Would they be nice - Yes
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 21:46
:grin: too funny

Can of worms has been opened here

Do I need Heated Seats - No
Would they be nice - Yes

It's the same old-same old.  At the end of the day, I doubt any of us can say we actually "need" any of the options, so it comes down to what you would like, and are happy to compromise on with respect to your budget.  Certain things like pro nav, leather, pano roof, and 19s were struck off the list straight away in my case.  After adding the performance pack due to comments made on here, I promptly took it off as it would just feel like a grand down the drain.  Each unto their own, right?!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 21:55
I guess I will see what difference it makes to the PCP and make my decision based on that

Hmmmm
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 28 August 2013, 22:04
:grin: too funny

Can of worms has been opened here

Do I need Heated Seats - No
Would they be nice - Yes

Gryzor and I have our moments.

Gryzor thinks he has picked the right options. I think I have picked the right options. We argue until we both agree that I was right all along and then Gryzor forgets and it begins again  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 22:08
:lol:

How about this

Drop Winter Pack All together ? and Save £355

Or Winter Pack for Oryx White ?

 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 28 August 2013, 22:15
Gryzor and I have our moments.

Gryzor thinks he has picked the right options. I think I have picked the right options. We argue until we both agree that I was right all along and then Gryzor forgets and it begins again  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

What?  Who are you?! :huh:  :whistle:  :grin:

@MM087' get the options you want and can afford, including paint colour, be asking on an enthusiastic forum will net you every possible answer.  The way I see it is this...   I spend more time actually sat inside and driving my car compared to stood staring at it.  Nor did I buy it to please other people so they have something to gawp at.  I based my options on those facts, so they centre around interior comfort and convenience.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 28 August 2013, 22:30
I will mess around with the figures tomorrow and see what works out best
Title: Re: Options
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 August 2013, 08:02
:grin: too funny

Can of worms has been opened here

Do I need Heated Seats - No
Would they be nice - Yes

Heated seats? Stop being a soft sh!te!  :laugh:

I imagine heated seats to give you that same uncomfortable feeling of parking up on a warm toilet seat.... :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: theflash on 29 August 2013, 08:41
I imagine heated seats to give you that same uncomfortable feeling of parking up on a warm toilet seat.... :embarrassed:

Or having soiled yourself?  :huh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 08:50
Heated seats? Stop being a soft sh!te!  :laugh:

I imagine heated seats to give you that same uncomfortable feeling of parking up on a warm toilet seat.... :embarrassed:

Haha!  Dual zone climate anyone?!  Will yours be off in winter?! :grin: ;)
Title: Re: Options
Post by: theflash on 29 August 2013, 09:03

Haha!  Dual zone climate anyone?!  Will yours be off in winter?! :grin: ;)

Is dual zone climate not standard then? I'm light on options as mine is a company car and the only thing they pay for is the metallic/pearlescent paint. Good job I chose DPB as it will look great in the snow  :whistle:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 09:16
Is dual zone climate not standard then? I'm light on options as mine is a company car and the only thing they pay for is the metallic/pearlescent paint. Good job I chose DPB as it will look great in the snow  :whistle:

Yes it is, precisely why I asked if he'd have it switched off in the winter to not be a wuss!  :grin:

Hmmm, not sure about DBP looking great in the snow - that means muddy slushy roads, makes even a white car tough to keep clean, let alone black!  I know what you meant though, it'll stand out against the white background ;)
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Ricepop on 29 August 2013, 09:38
Heated seats? Stop being a soft sh!te!  :laugh:

I imagine heated seats to give you that same uncomfortable feeling of parking up on a warm toilet seat.... :embarrassed:

Haha!  Dual zone climate anyone?!  Will yours be off in winter?! :grin: ;)

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w568/ricepop71/WP_000053_zps1b6b1b0f.jpg)

You are all a bunch of "soft sh!tes". This is my ride until the Golf turns up in a couple of months.
No Air con, central locking, electric windows...it doesn't even have a blower.

The heating runs off the exhaust and the only fan in the whole car is the cooling fan on the engine. The only way to clear the windscreen in the winter is to drive faster.... :laugh:

Also I counted the number of buttons and switches in the whole car, there are 13 including the radio and the interior light switches (I know it's a bit posh)

The golf has 19 (I think) on the steering wheel alone.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: theflash on 29 August 2013, 10:04

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w568/ricepop71/WP_000053_zps1b6b1b0f.jpg)

You are all a bunch of "soft sh!tes". This is my ride until the Golf turns up in a couple of months.


 Just :cool:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 August 2013, 10:07
Heated seats? Stop being a soft sh!te!  :laugh:

I imagine heated seats to give you that same uncomfortable feeling of parking up on a warm toilet seat.... :embarrassed:

Haha!  Dual zone climate anyone?!  Will yours be off in winter?! :grin: ;)

You need to come out drinking in Tynemouth on a December night, the fresh North Sea air pounding you in the walk between pubs – it is obligatory to be wearing a short sleeved shirt,  no jumpers allowed! Long sleeved shirts are for work only.

Warmed seats only really semi-necessary for leather seats – a cold leather seat is going to feel a lot colder on your arse than a cloth one.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 10:18
You need to come out drinking in Tynemouth on a December night, the fresh North Sea air pounding you in the walk between pubs – it is obligatory to be wearing a short sleeved shirt,  no jumpers allowed! Long sleeved shirts are for work only.

Warmed seats only really semi-necessary for leather seats – a cold leather seat is going to feel a lot colder on your arse than a cloth one.

Pub walk tradition sounds good, nothing against a brisk cold night!

I agree, leather seats definitely need it, but they also need cooling in summer.  Much prefer cloth seats for their better grip and thermal qualities :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: mcmaddy on 29 August 2013, 10:41
After having cloth and leather both with winter pack I much prefer cloth seats. Saying that I also prefer manual leather seats to the crap electric ones  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: virginVWman on 29 August 2013, 12:47
Has anoyone gone with the Dynaudio option? £525.00 quid i believe

I was thinking about it, I have yet to have my BW confirmed, but more than likely it will be 45 the sales chap said. I was hoping to add this as an option, but been advised this would push back the order...really?! Its not even in progress yet. Is he fobbing me off?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: theflash on 29 August 2013, 12:54
Has anoyone gone with the Dynaudio option? £525.00 quid i believe

I was thinking about it, I have yet to have my BW confirmed, but more than likely it will be 45 the sales chap said. I was hoping to add this as an option, but been advised this would push back the order...really?! Its not even in progress yet. Is he fobbing me off?

Must admit, it was the only option I was really bothered about not having. Trouble is I don't want to shell out £525 and then have to give the car back after 3 years. It's got to be worth having if it's your own car as they spec up all the speakers and you get a sub in the boot.  :cry:

Might go for one of these (if it fits as these are for MK5/6) as it's neat and I can take it out when it's time.
 :smiley:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-MK5-MK6-Custom-Fit-MDF-10-Sub-Box-Subwoofer-Enclosure-Bass-MKV-MKVI-/370799663953?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item565561db51

In answer to your questions, it looks like most people have specced Dynaudio and I wouldn't believe anything VW or the dealer says!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 29 August 2013, 13:04
The standard system is perfectly adequate unless you are a huge music fan and are going to spend plenty of time in the car. You also have the fallback position of adding a sub through the accessories if your not happy with the standard set up
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 13:29
The standard system is perfectly adequate unless you are a huge music fan and are going to spend plenty of time in the car. You also have the fallback position of adding a sub through the accessories if your not happy with the standard set up

Yeah, I'm more than happy with the standard audio setup, and as you say, bass can be supplemented if required.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: virginVWman on 29 August 2013, 14:59
That's what the sales guy said as well, puts my mind at rest then if the standard is good enough. Was just looking for a poor excuse perhaps to add options and after options. The gtd comes pretty much with everything I need anyway, think I would be adding options for the sake of it
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 15:32
That's what the sales guy said as well, puts my mind at rest then if the standard is good enough. Was just looking for a poor excuse perhaps to add options and after options. The gtd comes pretty much with everything I need anyway, think I would be adding options for the sake of it

It's easy to fall into the trap!  I tend to focus on options that genuinely add new functionality/experiences rather than just expand on what is already there.  Audio is a great example of that.  With the stock setup I can play MP3s off my SD card and to my ears they sound great.  Do I really want to spend an extra £500 on making it sound a bit better, inside a car with wind and road noise?  By the same logic, I added Basic Nav, but is Pro Nav worth an extra grand when all I want to do is get from A to B without having any wires dangling from a separate unit on the windscreen?  No, Basic Nav more than has that covered.

Such a personal thing though, so can only give you my insight and reasoning.  When it comes to options, we are all right! :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 29 August 2013, 16:28
Such a personal thing though, so can only give you my insight and reasoning.  When it comes to options, we are all right! :grin:

Yeah, you're all wrong - I've got it and it sounds the nuts, and is well worth the money!  So boo!  :laugh: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 16:37
Such a personal thing though, so can only give you my insight and reasoning.  When it comes to options, we are all right! :grin:

Yeah, you're all wrong - I've got it and it sounds the nuts, and is well worth the money!  So boo!  :laugh: :grin:

 :grin:  I've never known anybody need to convince themselves so much about their decisions! ;)  :tongue:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 August 2013, 16:38
Such a personal thing though, so can only give you my insight and reasoning.  When it comes to options, we are all right! :grin:

Yeah, you're all wrong - I've got it and it sounds the nuts, and is well worth the money!  So boo!  :laugh: :grin:

 :grin:  I've never known anybody need to convince themselves so much about their decisions! ;)  :tongue:

And I've never known anybody need to convince everyone else so much about their decisions! :evil: :tongue:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: corgi on 29 August 2013, 16:39
Such a personal thing though, so can only give you my insight and reasoning.  When it comes to options, we are all right! :grin:

Yeah, you're all wrong - I've got it and it sounds the nuts, and is well worth the money!  So boo!  :laugh: :grin:

But if you can't hear or don't care about the difference... then don't bother...

I'm with matchboy on this one...
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 16:52
And I've never known anybody need to convince everyone else so much about their decisions! :evil: :tongue:

If offering opinion, insight and reasoning is trying to convince others, guilty as charged! :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: virginVWman on 29 August 2013, 17:28
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh DAMN YOU ALL lol. I felt okay about not opting for it...but now...darn

Is it worth delaying the car even more so though....thoughts?
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 August 2013, 17:34
Nothing is worth delaying the car even more.

Actually if you've waited a long time what is another few... err... months?

Remind me is this a GTI or GTD we're talking about.  If its a GTD I don't think you want any further delays as sounds like few people will be getting GTDs before the next ice age as it is.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 29 August 2013, 17:36
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 29 August 2013, 17:45
Such a personal thing though, so can only give you my insight and reasoning.  When it comes to options, we are all right! :grin:

Yeah, you're all wrong - I've got it and it sounds the nuts, and is well worth the money!  So boo!  :laugh: :grin:

 :grin:  I've never known anybody need to convince themselves so much about their decisions! ;)  :tongue:

 :grin: I don't need convincing - having had it on my mk 6 GTI and having heard it on the demo GTD I test drove, I know how good it is! I'd have it over the Nav that's how impressive it is!
Title: Re: Options
Post by: virginVWman on 29 August 2013, 17:46
It's a GTD. it's been pushed back from a Sep collection to November. I have heard of minor delays but 8 whole weeks...and it's not guaranteed. I was advised bw 45 so I live in hope. The eternal optimist or perhaps rather niece lol. But as you have advised...worth delaying for a better than good sound system, maybe not
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 29 August 2013, 17:48
It's a GTD. it's been pushed back from a Sep collection to November. I have heard of minor delays but 8 whole weeks...and it's not guaranteed. I was advised bw 45 so I live in hope. The eternal optimist or perhaps rather niece lol. But as you have advised...worth delaying for a better than good sound system, maybe not

For me personally, I would wait. Probably why I've had to wait so long for mine! It's an option I couldn't personally live without, but it's all down to personal preference!

How many times can I say personally in one sentence  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: virginVWman on 29 August 2013, 17:53
It's a GTD. it's been pushed back from a Sep collection to November. I have heard of minor delays but 8 whole weeks...and it's not guaranteed. I was advised bw 45 so I live in hope. The eternal optimist or perhaps rather niece lol. But as you have advised...worth delaying for a better than good sound system, maybe not

For me personally, I would wait. Probably why I've had to wait so long for mine! It's an option I couldn't personally live without, but it's all down to personal preference!

How many times can I say personally in one sentence  :lipsrsealed: :laugh:

Cat amongst the pigeons comes to mind. Sales lad said it may not delay but he can't promise. I mean surely a darn audio option isn't too difficult nor time consuming to fit. I think id cry if it pushed it back another 4 weeks to December. I may as well collect it in jan
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 August 2013, 17:58
Sales lad said it may not delay but he can't promise.

Don't believe this sh!t.  They say that but what happens is when they change an option the system (apprently) treats the updated order as if it were a brand new order and dumps it to the back of the queue.  People are being quoted BW51 now for  a GTD and if there have then been 3 or 4 other orders after that and then you change that could end up as ... what, mid next year? :shocked:

Hopefully the system isn't that bad but from what we've seen on here its probably safe to assume it IS that bad and wait to be pleasantly surprised rather than the other way around.

I think its all down to if you'll regret it or not.  If you can forget it when you get the car you're fine.. if you always think what if then you better spec the change.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: virginVWman on 29 August 2013, 18:05
Sales lad said it may not delay but he can't promise.

Don't believe this sh!t.  They say that but what happens is when they change an option the system (apprently) treats the updated order as if it were a brand new order and dumps it to the back of the queue.  People are being quoted BW51 now for  a GTD and if there have then been 3 or 4 other orders after that and then you change that could end up as ... what, mid next year? :shocked:

Hopefully the system isn't that bad but from what we've seen on here its probably safe to assume it IS that bad and wait to be pleasantly surprised rather than the other way around.

I think its all down to if you'll regret it or not.  If you can forget it when you get the car you're fine.. if you always think what if then you better spec the change.

Right....that's made my mind up. No deal to dynaudio. I mean the car looks unreal as it is and specced to a good enough level should you go with the basic entry level. a good audio system is all I need, I'm clutching at straws here I think and there is no way in h e l l I'm delaying this anymore. Not willing to make the gamble. Appreciate people thoughts and opinions. Cheers guys
Title: Re: Options
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 August 2013, 18:35
It's a GTD. it's been pushed back from a Sep collection to November. I have heard of minor delays but 8 whole weeks...and it's not guaranteed. I was advised bw 45 so I live in hope. The eternal optimist or perhaps rather niece lol. But as you have advised...worth delaying for a better than good sound system, maybe not

Spec it! It'll be standard equipment by the time you get yours and so they won't be able to charge for it! :grin:

But seriously, most of these options are like "if you haven't had it before, you won't miss it". VW standard sound is as good as standard sound gets. For those who like their music with lots (too much IMO) bass, you'll want the upgrade. If you've had recent VWs, haven't had an upgrade before, don't ramp your bass up and rarely take your stereo over 1/2 volume, i'd skip it.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: Gryzor on 29 August 2013, 19:47
If you've had recent VWs, haven't had an upgrade before, don't ramp your bass up and rarely take your stereo over 1/2 volume, i'd skip it.

That pretty much sums up how I listen to musc, not too loud and with not much bass.
Title: Re: Options
Post by: theflash on 29 August 2013, 22:23
If you've had recent VWs, haven't had an upgrade before, don't ramp your bass up and rarely take your stereo over 1/2 volume, i'd skip it.

That pretty much sums up how I listen to musc, not too loud and with not much bass.

Which is pretty much the opposite of how I listen to music! Probably due to the years standing in front of rumbling speaker stacks   :tongue:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 29 August 2013, 22:59
I have decided to leave the Winter Pack

However you guys are now making me doubt if I want the DynaAudio !  :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 29 August 2013, 23:09
I have decided to leave the Winter Pack

However you guys are now making me doubt if I want the DynaAudio !  :grin:

Don't listen to these old farts, for 500 notes its a no brainer!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: CraigW on 29 August 2013, 23:16
I have decided to leave the Winter Pack

However you guys are now making me doubt if I want the DynaAudio !  :grin:

Don't listen to these old farts, for 500 notes its a no brainer!  :laugh:

Ho you - old fart  :evil: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: matchboy on 30 August 2013, 09:34
I have decided to leave the Winter Pack

However you guys are now making me doubt if I want the DynaAudio !  :grin:

Don't listen to these old farts, for 500 notes its a no brainer!  :laugh:

 :grin: :grin:

Ho you - old fart  :evil: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: p3asa on 30 August 2013, 15:41
There is nothing better than getting into your car at 6.30am with ice everywhere and hitting that heated seat button.
All options are only to enhance your driving as you don't need any of them to actually get from A to B. So it would be Rear view camera, heated seats and Dynaudio for me in that order.

its your car, your payments, so your choice  :laugh:
Title: Re: Options
Post by: MM087 on 30 August 2013, 15:57
Rick2b do you have any more pictures of your Oryx GTD ? :laugh: