mk4 gti handling question

[Sirocco20348]

funny how i drive around a round about each day 3rd exit, before i lowered my car anything over 35mph and the car understeered and wasnt able to get around it. after lowering i can take it between 45-50...

Understeering has to do with uneven weight distribution between the front and rear... you haven't done anything to change this yet....

You obviously improved with driving around the round about., and as per your first post, your car still has the tendency to roll because of the positive camber created by the lowering of your car.

[dom]

Lets make sure this thread stays clean, no willy waving or abuse otherwise I will lock it.

By all means post opinions and experiences but don't start having a go at each other.

[Chris.]

TT hubs, cast wishbones, R32 rack  good start there.

[Sirocco20348]

TT hubs, cast wishbones, R32 rack  good start there.

Do you guys call control arms wishbones?

But yes I agree with the TT hubs, that's what I was referring to when I mentioned the h2 sport spindles.  But its more complicated going the TT parts route.

h2 sport spindles are like $1000. But drop the roll centre of the car at the front by 1".

[Chris.]

Find wishbones with stubs on then if you worry about the drop link?

TT wishbones are a DIRECT fit to mk4 suspension.  Theres only ARB drop links to worry about.

[GTi_James]

handling increased with lowering the center of gravity, add to the vehicle uprated and thicker ARB's means less bend on the ARB resulting in straighter wheels on a corner.

these kits would not be designed and placed on all sports cars if they were useless 

OMG haha such a noob comment, you have a lot to learn my friend.

These kits are more often designed for looks rather than actually solving the problem of making the car handle better. 

Its well known that the Shine suspension kit is the best handling setup for the golf iv.

Standard height at the front, rear is dropped by an inch.

speaking from experience, driven my friends golf through becketts corner at silverstone on in 2011 standard set up and then some time in pits to fit his shocks and springs with uprated ARBs and it was like day and night, im not saying im a all knowing all seeing super nut with a a set of spanners for fingers tbf so the noob insult was a bit OTT. im speaking from experience 

[golfyste]

I think it's all been a bit misunderstood....
I know that lowering a car too much can ruin the handling
But i read what scirocco said as "put the standard suspension back on" which is definitely a bad idea
The standard ride height is ok (although 30mm lower is better) but the standard springs and shocks are gash

The ideal set up is about 30mm lower then standard with tt hubs and wishbones etc etc and if you want to take it further you can get camber and caster adjustment too

The h2 sport spindles are a waste of money IMHO as the tt set up is easily available and does the same job.

Apologies for noob comments but I though you were saying standard suspension is better 

[GTi_James]

you also have to consider that the golf GTI is already 15mm lower than  standard so if you want 30mm from "standard hieght" you have to take this into consideration and put on up to 45mm worth of drop on so that you the desired 30mm drop otherwise if you put on 30mm then your only lowered by 15mm...

if that makes sense 

i understand where scirocco is coming from but entering a thread all guns blazing is a bit pointless really 

[Chris.]

Only the Anni is dropped a bit isnt it?

[golfyste]

Irrc the gti is 15mm and the anni is 30mm