laws on dismissal from work UPDATED

[JulesS3]

Its illegal for a reference to be detremental to an employee. You cant have a bad reference.

[dixie180]

My partner was a union rep for years & has helped quite a few people keep their jobs. She had to give it up when she became a Manager due to conflict of interest.

Lol,yep you can't be on both sides of the fence at the same time.It's a pity she chose to change sides as no one will be able to replace her years of knowledge,but sometimes it is the only way of promotion at work and i understand her choice.


Rob

[RandomJord]

Its illegal for a reference to be detremental to an employee. You cant have a bad reference.

References can be official and unofficial.

Its not by the letter of the employment law but i genuinely feel employment law keeps people who are sh!t at their job, in their job.

This is in no way an attack on the OP and his work ethic by the way. Just my view of Tribunals and how it could damage his future prospects

[dixie180]

Tribunals pretty much always lead to your name being smacked with a sh!tty stick.

Future employers might think twice if you've taken your old employers to court...even if it was their FU!

Bullsh!t how would my employer even know i took a company to a tribunal ? Thats a myth dodgy companies will tell you to stop you doing it. Employers have a duty to do things correctly if they don't then they should be dealt with. We have procedure after procedure we have to go through if we want to get rid of someone, we do it all by the book that way we don't leave ourselves open to anything.

It also doesn't take years mine took about 6 months.

No not bullsh!t, the business world is a small one and word gets around locally. And its not a myth i've seen it first hand.

Candidate one - Good Worker, Good CV, Good References
Candidate two - Good Worker, Good CV, Reference disclosed a f**k up that cost thousands, employee then dismissed and took us to tribunal.

Im taking candidate one ta!

Tribunals and unions are there to f**king egg on lazy sh!ts and people who are crap at their job into believing their employer owes them the world.

SMoke it

Everybody makes mistakes,from the top to the bottom.But it always seems the ones at the bottom get punished and the ones at the top don't!!

[J_V_Dub]

Tribunals pretty much always lead to your name being smacked with a sh!tty stick.

Future employers might think twice if you've taken your old employers to court...even if it was their FU!

Bullsh!t how would my employer even know i took a company to a tribunal ? Thats a myth dodgy companies will tell you to stop you doing it. Employers have a duty to do things correctly if they don't then they should be dealt with. We have procedure after procedure we have to go through if we want to get rid of someone, we do it all by the book that way we don't leave ourselves open to anything.

It also doesn't take years mine took about 6 months.

No not bullsh!t, the business world is a small one and word gets around locally. And its not a myth i've seen it first hand.

Candidate one - Good Worker, Good CV, Good References
Candidate two - Good Worker, Good CV, Reference disclosed a f**k up that cost thousands, employee then dismissed and took us to tribunal.

Im taking candidate one ta!

Tribunals and unions are there to f**king egg on lazy sh!ts and people who are crap at their job into believing their employer owes them the world.

SMoke it

Candidate's 2 previous employer braking the law for the second time, they can't disclose information like that, it's not a comunist country...

[RandomJord]

Not entirely true. But yes...workers can be sacrificed by someone above them to cover their own arse!

Its wrong and shouldn't happen. from the info we have from the OP, it sounds like he shouldnt be out of a job. But the employer may tell a totally different version of events.

But i really do know that a tribunal can damage his prospects! as it stands at the mo, it seems like his former employer will give a good reference if he finds another job. I'd go that route.

[Kerrse]

No not bullsh!t, the business world is a small one and word gets around locally. And its not a myth i've seen it first hand.

Candidate one - Good Worker, Good CV, Good References
Candidate two - Good Worker, Good CV, Reference disclosed a f**k up that cost thousands, employee then dismissed and took us to tribunal.

Im taking candidate one ta!

Tribunals and unions are there to f**king egg on lazy sh!ts and people who are crap at their job into believing their employer owes them the world.

SMoke it

You can't put that in a reference lmao You can refuse to give a reference but you can't give a bad reference especially not one that says they took you to tribunal. Do you actually employ people ? If you do i feel very sorry for them  

Plus we are talking about someone making one mistake, people make mistakes you can't sack someone because of one mistake especially as in this case he wasn't even equipped to do the job properly.

If people got sacked everytime they made a mistake there would be no one left at work. Fair enough it's because they are drunk or on drugs or being dangerous but you still can't just can't sack people without following the correct procedures.

[RandomJord]

Tribunals pretty much always lead to your name being smacked with a sh!tty stick.

Future employers might think twice if you've taken your old employers to court...even if it was their FU!

Bullsh!t how would my employer even know i took a company to a tribunal ? Thats a myth dodgy companies will tell you to stop you doing it. Employers have a duty to do things correctly if they don't then they should be dealt with. We have procedure after procedure we have to go through if we want to get rid of someone, we do it all by the book that way we don't leave ourselves open to anything.

It also doesn't take years mine took about 6 months.

No not bullsh!t, the business world is a small one and word gets around locally. And its not a myth i've seen it first hand.

Candidate one - Good Worker, Good CV, Good References
Candidate two - Good Worker, Good CV, Reference disclosed a f**k up that cost thousands, employee then dismissed and took us to tribunal.

Im taking candidate one ta!

Tribunals and unions are there to f**king egg on lazy sh!ts and people who are crap at their job into believing their employer owes them the world.

SMoke it

Candidate's 2 previous employer braking the law for the second time, they can't disclose information like that, it's not a comunist country...

Candidate 2's previous employer is a friend of a friend of the golfing partner of the potential employer. It came up during a BBQ at a mutual friends Nephews Christening.

[RandomJord]

No not bullsh!t, the business world is a small one and word gets around locally. And its not a myth i've seen it first hand.

Candidate one - Good Worker, Good CV, Good References
Candidate two - Good Worker, Good CV, Reference disclosed a f**k up that cost thousands, employee then dismissed and took us to tribunal.

Im taking candidate one ta!

Tribunals and unions are there to f**king egg on lazy sh!ts and people who are crap at their job into believing their employer owes them the world.

SMoke it

You can't put that in a reference lmao You can refuse to give a reference but you can't give a bad reference especially not one that says they took you to tribunal. Do you actually employ people ? If you do i feel very sorry for them  

Plus we are talking about someone making one mistake, people make mistakes you can't sack someone because of one mistake especially as in this case he wasn't even equipped to do the job properly.

If people got sacked everytime they made a mistake there would be no one left at work. Fair enough it's because they are drunk or on drugs or being dangerous but you still can't just can't sack people without following the correct procedures.

I do employ a lot of people yes, some of which are even on here! shall we wait to see if they come along with massive grievences.............





nothing yet........







Oh and heres a quote i thought very apt

'Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both'

[Kerrse]

Candidate 2's previous employer is a friend of a friend of the golfing partner of the potential employer. It came up during a BBQ at a mutual friends Nephews Christening.

Very unlikely also very unprofessional, plus depends on the size companies you work for, size of the place you live & if you even work in the same town you live.

I certainly wouldn't dismiss a candidate form a job because of some chinese whispers of a tribunal in fact if he had been well within his rights & had be dismissed unfairly i would understand completely.

The laws of employment are there for a reason & should be adhered to i know working for a very big company we have to do everything by the book.

Companies that dont follow employment laws deserve to be dealt with IMO