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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Teutonic_Tamer on 16 September 2008, 18:48
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Yup, 420 from an Edition 30 . . . . :drool:
http://audisrs.com/about1397.html
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Need to login for that link T_T ..
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Need to login for that link T_T ..
I concur...
would be nice to read 'bout 420-E30, though...
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
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320 is too much, let alone another 100 on top of that!!. hurry up T_T, sort the link out before My bessy gets her baps out again!
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
....I'd be inclined to agree, even without the benefit of registering on the linked site. Wheelspin in 6th anyone?
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320 is too much, let alone another 100 on top of that!!. hurry up T_T, sort the link out before My bessy gets her baps out again!
320 just hits the sweet spot :smiley:
420....that must be wheelspin up into 6th gear? :huh:
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
....I'd be inclined to agree, even without the benefit of registering on the linked site. Wheelspin in 6th anyone?
damn! we were on the save wavelength there at the same time, RR! :laugh:
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Need to login for that link T_T ..
Bollox. Forgot about that! :embarassed:
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....230-ish is just right isn't it Phil? :afro:
The most ponies I've driven on a Mk5 GTI is 290-ish and that's absolutely fine and enough imo for practical driveability on public roads.
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
....I'd be inclined to agree, even without the benefit of registering on the linked site. Wheelspin in 6th anyone?
Its all about throttle control! :wink:
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Its all about throttle control! :wink:
Too right.
There is one Seat Ibiza (polo chassis) that will be running close to 600bhp in FWD mode soon. 1.8T and a GT35R turbo.
There is also another one that has a GT30 and has about 450bhp. Grip can be a problem but boy does it go when it finds some!
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....230-ish is just right isn't it Phil? :afro:
The most ponies I've driven on a Mk5 GTI is 290-ish and that's absolutely fine and enough imo for practical driveability on public roads.
I admire Phil for defending what he has to the last drop of blood. (kinda).
When it was blue GTI - that was the best car. E30? Forget about it!
Now he has red E30, so that's the car to defend.
Wait till he succumbs to remap epidemics, then 300+ he'll have will be THE RIGHT THING. :wink:
(Phil, do not delete me, I love this forum too much!)
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Its all about throttle control! :wink:
Too right.
There is one Seat Ibiza (polo chassis) that will be running close to 600bhp in FWD mode soon. 1.8T and a GT35R turbo.
There is also another one that has a GT30 and has about 450bhp. Grip can be a problem but boy does it go when it finds some!
I guess new tyres every coplathousand miles is no problem for these drivers.
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OK, I'll relay the details.
2007 Ed30 3dr left hooker owned by MRC Tuning.
Basic mods: Bilstein PSS10s, custom Milltek 3" TBE without cats, and the Forge twintercooler, and their own custom map.
Serious mods: one huge BFO turbo - GT3071R if that means anything. Also bigger injectors and bigger fuel pump
And the result - one awesome tool: :drool:
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3323/mrcgolfvt8.jpg)
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OK, I'll relay the details.
2007 Ed30 3dr left hooker owned by MRC Tuning.
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? :lipsrsealed:
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OK, I'll relay the details.
2007 Ed30 3dr left hooker owned by MRC Tuning.
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? :lipsrsealed:
Left hand drive - to us Brits, you lot over there have the steering wheel on the wrong side! :tongue:
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I wonder if that GTI with the big turbo feels like Porsche 911 3.3 Turbo (930) in its power delivery....
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Is it a DSG car? a GT30 equipped 2.0TFSI should achieve more than 350lb/ft of torque i would have thought!
nice tho!
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OK, I'll relay the details.
2007 Ed30 3dr left hooker owned by MRC Tuning.
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? :lipsrsealed:
Left hand drive - to us Brits, you lot over there have the steering wheel on the wrong side! :tongue:
THis is egregious lie! Our steering wheels are on the RIGHT side! :laugh:
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....230-ish is just right isn't it Phil? :afro:
The most ponies I've driven on a Mk5 GTI is 290-ish and that's absolutely fine and enough imo for practical driveability on public roads.
im happy, just wish it would sound abit nicer :sad:
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(Phil, do not delete me, I love this forum too much!)
A theres me thinking you were hot footing off into the bmw forums peskarik!. i thought you'd had enough of your ed30?, from your recent postings???
Nice to see you hang around as one of the old schoolers :smiley:
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I wonder if that GTI with the big turbo feels like Porsche 911 3.3 Turbo (930) in its power delivery....
It looks pretty brutal upto about 4,500rpm. :shocked:
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Is it a DSG car? a GT30 equipped 2.0TFSI should achieve more than 350lb/ft of torque i would have thought!
Sorry, its a manual.
And he states he wants an uprated clutch, and an LSD - and yes, the Quaiffe has been mentioned. :wink:
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(Phil, do not delete me, I love this forum too much!)
A theres me thinking you were hot footing off into the bmw forums peskarik!. i thought you'd had enough of your ed30?, from your recent postings???
Nice to see you hang around as one of the old schoolers :smiley:
Noway Jose! I'll hang around here for looong time going forward. That is independent from whether I get a Bimmer or not.
E30 will stay in my heart for the rest of my life. But that does not mean there is no room for improvement, and I do not mean just tuning. I mean WHOLE package change. :smiley:
I love this place, this forum. I hope the old timers will stay here for a long time, that is TT, RR, Hurdy, you, joesgti, etc (sorry guys, do not remember all of you). When they are gone, I am gone.
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Is it a DSG car? a GT30 equipped 2.0TFSI should achieve more than 350lb/ft of torque i would have thought!
Sorry, its a manual.
And he states he wants an uprated clutch, and an LSD - and yes, the Quaiffe has been mentioned. :wink:
I BET HE DOES!!! :shocked:
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320bhp is fine in FWD with the right control. But 420 would be a bit OTT in anything under 4th gear I would imagine..
Oh and front tyres can be made to last. Still on my originals on 13k with 5mm left and I don't exactly fanny about.. :wink: I reckon the bloody things are made from tungsten carbide.. :shocked:
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320bhp is fine in FWD with the right control. But 420 would be a bit OTT in anything under 4th gear I would imagine..
Oh and front tyres can be made to last. Still on my originals on 13k with 5mm left and I don't exactly fanny about.. :wink: I reckon the bloody things are made from tungsten carbide.. :shocked:
I've heard of 500hp SAABs in Sweden! Now, those things must be hell to drive in winter times. :shocked:
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where's hurdy with the poweeeeeeeeeeeeer! comments
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
....I'd be inclined to agree, even without the benefit of registering on the linked site. Wheelspin in 6th anyone?
Its all about throttle control! :wink:
....Yes I know how important throttle control is but 420 for everyday road use isn't very practical, or should I say comfortable, is it.
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A Dutch tuner is offering a 470 bhp tuning package for the standard 2.0 TFSI, and is working on a > 500 bhp package: http://www.xs4all.nl/~jdengine/html/jd-powerpack.html
I don't know how the driveability is, and as most engine parts are replaced whether you can still talk about 'tuning' of the TFSI block. And price, well for the 416 bhp package it is already around 20.000 Euro...
An Ed30 chipped sounds like the sweet spot regarding price vs performance.
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....Sorry, but it's beginning to sound like a 'who-can-piss-the-highest-up-the-wall' competition.
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where's hurdy with the poweeeeeeeeeeeeer! comments
on his holidays :wink:
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320bhp is fine in FWD with the right control. But 420 would be a bit OTT in anything under 4th gear I would imagine..
Oh and front tyres can be made to last. Still on my originals on 13k with 5mm left and I don't exactly fanny about.. :wink: I reckon the bloody things are made from tungsten carbide.. :shocked:
i have done 20k on my original tyres and have been to the ring on them and cadwell park and still have 4mm left :shocked: they just wont die :grin: and i do try :laugh:
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420bhp is not the problem, its the torque figure that triggers the wheel spin, that why they have tuned the car in that way.. (notice the low torque figure)
I think that would be perfectly drivable with an LSD and sticky tyres.. :)
Heres a quick video of my S3 with 417bhp & 356ft/lbs
Granted it had 4wd but gives you an idea of the acceleration, from 10mph in 1st to 7000rpm in 3rd! :)
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/th_MOV00022.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/jonnnny28/?action=view¤t=MOV00022.flv)
Jonny
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that video is awfull :grin: :grin:
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that video is awfull :grin: :grin:
yeah...
did he reach what speed? :undecided: was that 70?
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that video is awfull :grin: :grin:
Lol I know..
The speed is 3rd gear at 7000rpm ;)
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Good to see the people on here appreciate that 400bhp+ is too much in a FWD car. You should read some of the comments posted by numpties on places like VW Vortex.
Ps. What's this 'wheelspin' thing everyone keeps referring to?
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that video is awfull :grin: :grin:
Lol I know..
The speed is 3rd gear at 7000rpm ;)
Yeah 70mph.. Short ratio box.. :wink:
Nice vid mate.. Need more though, you do realise that. If you have any others PM me them if you don't want them broadcast.. :wink:
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Im will you on this one davefish... whats this "wheelspin/wasted power" thing that everyone keeps going in about :rolleyes:
Seriously if you want to puch 420ponies out of a g :grin:olf... atleast pick the right one to do it in :lipsrsealed:
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I run 385ish hp and its fine. Its not like the throttle is a on and off switch. I dont stamp on the throttle everywhere I go, plus im not constantly starting from a standing start. And yes its a daily driver . :smug:
Obvously when your already upto speed, its great to just put your foot down and it blasts off, no wheelspin or anything there.
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I run 385ish hp and its fine. Its not like the throttle is a on and off switch. I dont stamp on the throttle everywhere I go, plus im not constantly starting from a standing start. And yes its a daily driver . :smug:
Obvously when your already upto speed, its great to just put your foot down and it blasts off, no wheelspin or anything there.
I dont doubt that with that kind of power you can be gentle.. but if your not able to put your foot right down then surely there is no need for that kind of power. I see what your saying about being able to blast off at speed, just seems like alot of cost/wasted power for the money spent to get to that level.
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320bhp is fine in FWD with the right control. But 420 would be a bit OTT in anything under 4th gear I would imagine..
Oh and front tyres can be made to last. Still on my originals on 13k with 5mm left and I don't exactly fanny about.. :wink: I reckon the bloody things are made from tungsten carbide.. :shocked:
What make/type boots are you having to suffer?
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
....I'd be inclined to agree, even without the benefit of registering on the linked site. Wheelspin in 6th anyone?
Its all about throttle control! :wink:
....Yes I know how important throttle control is but 420 for everyday road use isn't very practical, or should I say comfortable, is it.
Huh - I don't get that comment.
The harder/further you press the throttle, the more of those 420 horses you release. If you don't want all 420 chomping at the bit, don't press the throttle as hard. It really is that simple - and is what makes Lewis Hamilton such a god in the rain, yet muppets like Raikonnen (Spa) and Massa (Silverstone) can't handle.
The only time those extremes would be un-managable is if you had a shyte map, which gave massive amounts of boost (therefore massive low down torque) at very low revs, rather than a better map, which increases the torque on a progressive, linear and predictable basis.
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....Sorry, but it's beginning to sound like a 'who-can-piss-the-highest-up-the-wall' competition.
Huh - so it's OK for you to "set out your stall", and expect others to agree with what you personally have as being THE benchmark - yet when others come out with higher figures, better products, different products, etc - you try to dis them? :rolleyes:
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420bhp is not the problem, its the torque figure that triggers the wheel spin, that why they have tuned the car in that way.. (notice the low torque figure)
Hooray - that is exactly right! :smug: :smiley:
I think that would be perfectly drivable with an LSD and sticky tyres.. :)
Agreed. And coupled with a common-sence "nut" holding the steering wheel (aka "the driver" :tongue:), it won't be a problem at all. However, if someone chooses to drive like a tw@t, then even just 100bhp can be too much through the front wheels! :wink: :tongue: :rolleyes: :smiley:
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Im will you on this one davefish... whats this "wheelspin/wasted power" thing that everyone keeps going in about :rolleyes:
Seriously if you want to puch 420ponies out of a g :grin:olf... atleast pick the right one to do it in :lipsrsealed:
Whilst I agree that four wheel drive would be advisable for 420 nags, a proper engine map, and a disciplined driver really shouldn't have any probs. Afterall, current F1 cars have about 700-750 hp going through just one axle (now without any electronic driver aids, thank god), and in the "turbo heyday" of F1, they were pushing anywhere between 1500 and 1800 hp through the rears - and this was long before the likes of traction control!
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I run 385ish hp and its fine. Its not like the throttle is a on and off switch. I dont stamp on the throttle everywhere I go, plus im not constantly starting from a standing start. And yes its a daily driver . :smug:
Obvously when your already upto speed, its great to just put your foot down and it blasts off, no wheelspin or anything there.
I dont doubt that with that kind of power you can be gentle.. but if your not able to put your foot right down then surely there is no need for that kind of power. I see what your saying about being able to blast off at speed, just seems like alot of cost/wasted power for the money spent to get to that level.
But sometimes, "less is more", and that comes from a disciplined right foot. :smug: A throttle pedal is not an "on-off" switch - it is a progressive device, ranging infinately and steplessly from 0 to 100%. :nerd: OK pedants might say something about tickover, but I'm sure you get my drift! :tongue:
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....Sorry, but it's beginning to sound like a 'who-can-piss-the-highest-up-the-wall' competition.
Huh - so it's OK for you to "set out your stall", and expect others to agree with what you personally have as being THE benchmark - yet when others come out with higher figures, better products, different products, etc - you try to dis them? :rolleyes:
....I'm not saying that at all, but frankly it's getting tedious trying to explain myself to you. I'm really not dissing anybody but merely saying that there comes a point where extreme power through a FWD car in the real-world of everyday driving on public roads can be an uncomfortable handful - IN MY OPINION!
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420....
ain't it a bit... aaah.... too much? For FWD, that is? :huh: :lipsrsealed:
....I'd be inclined to agree, even without the benefit of registering on the linked site. Wheelspin in 6th anyone?
Its all about throttle control! :wink:
....Yes I know how important throttle control is but 420 for everyday road use isn't very practical, or should I say comfortable, is it.
Huh - I don't get that comment.
The harder/further you press the throttle, the more of those 420 horses you release. If you don't want all 420 chomping at the bit, don't press the throttle as hard. It really is that simple - and is what makes Lewis Hamilton such a god in the rain, yet muppets like Raikonnen (Spa) and Massa (Silverstone) can't handle.
The only time those extremes would be un-managable is if you had a shyte map, which gave massive amounts of boost (therefore massive low down torque) at very low revs, rather than a better map, which increases the torque on a progressive, linear and predictable basis.
....And I don't get your comment, T-T - I actually agree with you about the importance of progressive use of the throttle but I'm relating 420 ponies to FWD in the real-world environment of everyday driving on UK public roads - It's not impossible but just unreliable and uncomforatble in some everyday circuumstances - IN MY OPINION!
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Quick update. The mad Frenchman has posted a 'Tube vid at v.max on the German Autobahn.
Boy, what a noise! :evil:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tG-WCPqsc
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Quick update. The mad Frenchman has posted a 'Tube vid at v.max on the German Autobahn.
Boy, what a noise! :evil:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tG-WCPqsc
Now that is fast :shocked:
The sound is amazing for a 4 pot :cool:
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i have done 20k on my original tyres and have been to the ring on them and cadwell park and still have 4mm left :shocked: they just wont die :grin: and i do try :laugh:
My dad had a look around my car today and mentioned the tyres look like theyve been given hell only got just over 3k on the clock. :rolleyes:
Need to lighten my right foot up abit :laugh: