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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: matchboy on 26 July 2013, 22:10
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Missus will be changing her car next year (currently driving an Alfa Guilietta 1.4 petrol (0-60 7.8)). We've been looking at the following cars:
Audi A3 1.8T Quattro Sportback (driving tomorrow)
BMW 125d M Sport
Golf GTD (driving tomorrow)
Seat Leon FR 1.8 TSI
Suddenly thought, what about another GTI? She loves GTI's as much as I do - but is it too sad to have two of the same car? When we were younger we always had two GTI's (mk 4s) but since then we've mixed it up every time one of us changed - and if we got her one it would be White, 18s, DSG & 5 door (so the 'opposite' to mine) - Opinions??
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I was going to keep my mk 6 GTI for the wife, but for various reasons now not going to happen :cry:
Though for you, moneybags :whistle: if you can do it bloody good one :cool:
Very, very different from a moron getting two bmw diesel cars :wink:
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I was going to keep my mk 6 GTI for the wife, but for various reasons now not going to happen :cry:
Though for you, moneybags :whistle: if you can do it bloody good one :cool:
Very, very different from a moron getting two bmw diesel cars :wink:
:grin:on both counts!
Hers is a company car, I only wish I could afford them both! :laugh:
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I don't see it as a problem at all Mark. It's such a good all round car that it suits everyone's needs. Just think about the dilemma each day, do I take the white one or the red one :grin: :grin:
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I don't see it as a problem at all Mark. It's such a good all round car that it suits everyone's needs. Just think about the dilemma each day, do I take the white one or the red one :grin: :grin:
:grin: it would certainly solve my issue with loving the white nearly as much as the TR :grin:
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Is she loking hard at the performance or happy to have something a little different that will be fun in a different way, like an A3 cabriolet for this sun we're all enjoying right now, or a little pocket rocket like an A1 1.4TSI 180 S-line (that S-line interior looks amazing)?
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Well if it makes you feel any better Mark, I'm gonna be keeping my current Mk6 GTi for a little bit longer (which also so happens to be a 'White' 5dr)..... so when the new Mk7 arrives in a couple of months I'm gonna be stuck with two near identical coloured GTi's on the drive!!!
I don't personally have a problem with it, but my wife is worried about what our friends & neighbours will say. They'll think we've gone 'Mad'.
If I was to pick an alternative from your list it would have to be the Beemer 125d M-Sport...
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Matching GTIs hhhhmmmm, not sure. A GTI and a GTD though, now your talking. A subtle but important difference.
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For me, if I was buying two cars, I'd definitely get different ones. I'd probably try to go more different than just a Golf and an A3 too (certainly not a GTD, is 90% identical). Its a big outlay and I'd like more variety, if they are both the same it would kinda feel like you just got one car. "Usually I drive a GTI but today I'm gonna drive a... err... GTI." Know what I'm saying. Its nice to drive something different if you feel the urge, and even if you decide the GTI is the better of the two cars you get to appreciate the GTI even more!
I'm anticipating a few "GTI is the best why would you get anything else!", "I never want to drive anything but a GTI!", "Two GTIs would be two completely different cars!" replies :tongue: :whistle: hehe. Its just my opinion folks. :wink:
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"Two GTIs would be two completely different cars!" replies :tongue: :whistle: hehe. Its just my opinion folks. :wink:
Are you saying that a white GTI won't be completely different to a red GTI? :tongue:
Variety is definitely a good thing, to be able to swap between a GTI and something completely different (and less practical) - Toyota MR2/Mazda MX5?
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Is she loking hard at the performance or happy to have something a little different that will be fun in a different way, like an A3 cabriolet for this sun we're all enjoying right now, or a little pocket rocket like an A1 1.4TSI 180 S-line (that S-line interior looks amazing)?
We have a TT at the moment so soft top is out. We did consider the A1 but it's just a little too small (eg for taking the little one & her cousins out plus car seats etc!)
She has the same concerns about what people will say Gung-Ho. And yes my preferred choice of the others is the 125d as its quick and economical.
And Bear I totally hear what you're saying about the variety. But we've had lots of cars and I never wanted to drive any of them for more than a day when I had GTI's :laugh:
She wants a practical car monkeyhanger, so something fun eg 2 seater is out too.
Thanks for the opinions chaps! I suppose it boils down to one question - if I wasn't getting a GTI which one would she choose out of all of them....I'll give you 3 guesses what she said....!
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Can understand the logic of having a daily which then lets you appreciate the GTI more when you jump in it to drive.
But can't fathom out the logic of having another decent car but not picking the GTI just so you can appreciate it when you get in it! If you know what I mean.
If you like the GTI go for it absolutely nothing wrong with having his n hers cars. Matching shellsuits as well?! :laugh:Seriously though, its a great car and fulfils both your needs so why not?
I wouldn't be bothered one bit with neighbours / friends. I've never bought a car with their thoughts in mind. The car is for you not them. Would be interesting though if you went GTD as you would be in an ideal position to review both on merit.
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But can't fathom out the logic of having another decent car but not picking the GTI just so you can appreciate it when you get in it! If you know what I mean.
No I can't fathom it either! :wink: That is the consequence, not the reason. :tongue:
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Yeah I don't care what the neighbours think! I think nearer the time we'll have to drive at A3, the BMW and the GTI all in one day. Then ill let her decide as after all it's her car and she's paying for it through her tax!
I'm looking forward to driving the GTD tomorrow to see how it compares. Also it's DSG so that will be interesting.
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Yeah I don't care what the neighbours think! I think nearer the time we'll have to drive at A3, the BMW and the GTI all in one day. Then ill let her decide as after all it's her car and she's paying for it through her tax!
I'm looking forward to driving the GTD tomorrow to see how it compares. Also it's DSG so that will be interesting.
How far down the practical route are you prepared to go? Audi Q3? Very well specced (for an Audi) in all trim levels, as economical as that bodyshape class gets, lots of passenger room and available with some higher output engines. I considered that as my next car when Newcastle had 2 separate bouts of major flooding (one of which turned my 20 minute commute into a 7 hour ordeal).
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Yes the Q3 is a serious contender. Had a look inside one the other day, was very impressed - and not too big eg Chelsea tractor. But they are expensive!
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I have a few cars. One of the reason we never got two the same is it helps keep you grounded.
What I meen by this is you get use to a car if driven daily.
If you then drive something else for a week getting back into the GTI brings it all back.
Its one of the ways ive stopped myself getting use to a car therefore borred of it or wanting to mod it. Which is what always happened to me 20 years back. As odd as it sounds its actually saved me money doing it this way.
I currently hace two dailys of my own a TDI and a GTI and the last week been running the TDI.
I was smilling this morning when I took the GTI out to go check my garage workshop was ok this morning.
I could not own two exactly the same cars but thats just me.
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I have a few cars. One of the reason we never got two the same is it helps keep you grounded.
What I meen by this is you get use to a car if driven daily.
If you then drive something else for a week getting back into the GTI brings it all back.
Its one of the ways ive stopped myself getting use to a car therefore borred of it or wanting to mod it. Which is what always happened to me 20 years back. As odd as it sounds its actually saved me money doing it this way.
I currently hace two dailys of my own a TDI and a GTI and the last week been running the TDI.
I was smilling this morning when I took the GTI out to go check my garage workshop was ok this morning.
I could not own two exactly the same cars but thats just me.
That's a very good point, I hear you!
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Ok, so back from car testing. No go on the 125d, driving that next Saturday. BMW tell me lead times are 8-10 weeks however for a new car :shocked:
Drive the A3 - what a disappointment. Top of the range petrol (bar the S3) and it was sluggish and seriously dull to drive. The missus was gutted as that was her fav, so that's out. Interior wise - sorry but I didn't see any major differences between that and a golf. Plus the audi interface is the same old same old from years back. The auto box wasn't responsive at all (even in sport mode) and the car itself made no satisfying noises when accelerating hard. Very disappointed in it.
Onto the GTD then - much, much better than the A3. Felt faster than the audi even though its supposedly not, and made a nice grunt when you put your foot down. Much more fun to drive than the audi as well. Very impressed by it and thought the DSG was a much better gearbox than in the audi. Very comfy even in sport, IMO the ACC isn't necessary. Downside - don't think a DSG is relevant to a diesel - would have been much better in a manual. DSG should be for the GTI.
Bottom line is though - its not a GTI. GTD buyers will not be disappointed at all as its a great car - just doesn't have the raw power and 'smile' factor that I got from the GTI. Saying that, it's still on the list for the wife as its a great car and because she does a lot of miles so consumption is a factor. Ill be interested to see what the real world figures are, IMO if its not getting 55mpg then it doesn't outweigh the higher price of diesel. Just for the record, this demo was averaging 37 which is very good given the amount of test drives whereby it has been driven hard for the majority of the time.
Great motor though. Not for me, but you GTD boys will not be disappointed!
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I wouldn't say it is said, but I would say its pointless to have 2 cars the same !
As someone said earlier you loose the sense of occasion, always better to have one daily grind car and one more fun car. Someone near me has 2 merc a class, and worse they are the same colour ! Now that is sad..
If diesel is a must, why not go for something a bit different like a convertible diesel then. You have all bases covered? Personally I wouldn't buy 2 very similar cars, variety is the spice of life :rolleyes:
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I wouldn't say it is said, but I would say its pointless to have 2 cars the same !
As someone said earlier you loose the sense of occasion, always better to have one daily grind car and one more fun car. Someone near me has 2 merc a class, and worse they are the same colour ! Now that is sad..
If diesel is a must, why not go for something a bit different like a convertible diesel then. You have all bases covered? Personally I wouldn't buy 2 very similar cars, variety is the spice of life :rolleyes:
Done the convertible thing this summer, so bored of that now. I hear what you're saying, I think if the 125d is a good drive then it'll be between that and the GTI!
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If it was me I would get something like a nearly new bmw 320 d hardtop convertible. 4 seats, convertible without the compromise and plenty room / economy.
Also, great deals and deposit contributions on the outgoing 3 series.
Then you still have the hot hatch fun covered..
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If it was me I would get something like a nearly new bmw 320 d hardtop convertible. 4 seats, convertible without the compromise and plenty room / economy.
Also, great deals and deposit contributions on the outgoing 3 series.
Then you still have the hot hatch fun covered..
Had a 320d so that's out! Plus too slow, has to be sub 7 secs (but not faster that my GTI :laugh:) The new 3 series does look good though, although the 4 looks very tempting (but too pricey I fear).
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Wow that's a tight brief !
Sub 7 secs but more than 6.4 ... Diesel... :whistle:
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Wow that's a tight brief !
Sub 7 secs but more than 6.4 ... Diesel... :whistle:
Maybe have a word with your mate Am1w for some advice with those specs? :whistle:
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Wow that's a tight brief !
Sub 7 secs but more than 6.4 ... Diesel... :whistle:
Quota is 7 secs and down to 6 - doesn't have to be diesel!
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Wow that's a tight brief !
Sub 7 secs but more than 6.4 ... Diesel... :whistle:
Maybe have a word with your mate Am1w for some advice with those specs? :whistle:
Maybe I could buy his 330d? :laugh:
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I was going to say tt but rereading your posts I see you already have one :grin:
Maybe try an Alfa giulietta cloverleaf to be different.
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I was going to say tt but rereading your posts I see you already have one :grin:
Maybe try an Alfa giulietta cloverleaf to be different.
She currently has a Guillietta so the cloverleaf isn't an option!
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How big a car does she need?
Maybe a junior hot hatch like the Fiesta ST, 208 Gti, Clio RS, MINI JCW ?
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How big a car does she need?
Maybe a junior hot hatch like the Fiesta ST, 208 Gti, Clio RS, MINI JCW ?
Mini's are too funky, wouldn't touch a French car with a barge pole :sick: and at 37 years old a Fiesta isn't an option! It's down to two now, the GTI and the 125d - hopefully the Beemer will be as good a drive as the GTI then it's decision time :laugh:
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How big a car does she need?
Maybe a junior hot hatch like the Fiesta ST, 208 Gti, Clio RS, MINI JCW ?
Mini's are too funky, wouldn't touch a French car with a barge pole :sick: and at 37 years old a Fiesta isn't an option! It's down to two now, the GTI and the 125d - hopefully the Beemer will be as good a drive as the GTI then it's decision time :laugh:
If you can live with the 125 looks then it'll be a wise buy. I suppose that's the trouble with the Golf, it's so good at so many things within it's pricepoint/running costs, it's hard to consider an alternative. Maybe a Leon Cupra if you want the same size as the Golf for practicality? Or do you not want the missus having a faster car than you? :whistle:
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How big a car does she need?
Maybe a junior hot hatch like the Fiesta ST, 208 Gti, Clio RS, MINI JCW ?
Mini's are too funky, wouldn't touch a French car with a barge pole :sick: and at 37 years old a Fiesta isn't an option! It's down to two now, the GTI and the 125d - hopefully the Beemer will be as good a drive as the GTI then it's decision time :laugh:
If you can live with the 125 looks then it'll be a wise buy. I suppose that's the trouble with the Golf, it's so good at so many things within it's pricepoint/running costs, it's hard to consider an alternative. Maybe a Leon Cupra if you want the same size as the Golf for practicality? Or do you not want the missus having a faster car than you? :whistle:
We have similar speed cars - it avoids arguments :grin: Leon is a great car - badge snob however so that's out (and its quicker :laugh:) The Beemer is like you say a wise choice as its quick (6.5) yet economical (58).
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If your a badge snob your a badge snob, i find it sad people are so but so be it.
I missed the polo Gti off the list as I dont know if they have fixed the engine/dsg issues yet.
Seems you have narrowed it down to two. I just hope the bmw is good.
I will admit when I see two cars the same in a drive way I think the owners must have no imagination. If it was me in a similar situationbi think I would let her have the GTI family car and get myself something less practical.
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My wife has our white mk6 GTi, and up until March this year I had a white Leon FR diesel and can honestly say I hated it and felt slightly embarrassed by it. Going one step further and having matching Golfs would be a bigger no no IMHO.
His and hers cars does look like a lack of imagination, thankfully now having an Estoril Blue 320d M-Sport the cars look sufficiently different and offer two completely different drives pending mood.
Good luck with whatever choice you make.
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I don't think you should rule out the Fiesta ST, its incredibly good and incredibly cheap. Interior is barely less roomy than the Focus either so unless you really need both cars to have the same space. Why not a Focus ST either?
Or if you don't have to have two hot hatches (and why would you need more than one?) how about an Octavia vRS with a few high spec interior options (£23k)? Or you could go for a C-class (£26k). Or a Freelander (£24k). I guess I'm saying why wouldn't you have two very different cars? Variation is good right?
However, if you're gonna rule these options out just get the BMW! Really makes much more sense than having two GTIs.
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I don't think you should rule out the Fiesta ST, its incredibly good and incredibly cheap. Interior is barely less roomy than the Focus either so unless you really need both cars to have the same space. Why not a Focus ST either?
Or if you don't have to have two hot hatches (and why would you need more than one?) how about an Octavia vRS with a few high spec interior options (£23k)? Or you could go for a C-class (£26k). Or a Freelander (£24k). I guess I'm saying why wouldn't you have two very different cars? Variation is good right?
However, if you're gonna rule these options out just get the BMW! Really makes much more sense than having two GTIs.
Bear:
Fiesta - too old for this, it's a young lads car.
Focus ST - too chavy/expensive to run
Octavia - old mans car
C-class - too slow unless you get the top of the range = too expensive
Freelander - not a farmer
May be weird reasons for discounting them I know :laugh:
Can you tell I'm/we're very picky :grin:
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I nearly ordered another Audi TT but decided having 2 coupes with barely any passenger space or able to carry a snowboard wasn't the practical choice and the spec of the GTi was too good & value for money to ignore.
What about a TT - same engine as the GTi therefore similar power and performance.
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I nearly ordered another Audi TT but decided having 2 coupes with barely any passenger space or able to carry a snowboard wasn't the practical choice and the spec of the GTi was too good & value for money to ignore.
What about a TT - same engine as the GTi therefore similar power and performance.
I've got a TT at the moment! Great cars though!
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I nearly ordered another Audi TT but decided having 2 coupes with barely any passenger space or able to carry a snowboard wasn't the practical choice and the spec of the GTi was too good & value for money to ignore.
What about a TT - same engine as the GTi therefore similar power and performance.
I've got a TT at the moment! Great cars though!
New TT is out next year, it would be daft not to wait for it if you were getting one. I bet there'll be another epic wait on the cards if you did get an early order in for the MK3 though.
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I nearly ordered another Audi TT but decided having 2 coupes with barely any passenger space or able to carry a snowboard wasn't the practical choice and the spec of the GTi was too good & value for money to ignore.
What about a TT - same engine as the GTi therefore similar power and performance.
I've got a TT at the moment! Great cars though!
New TT is out next year, it would be daft not to wait for it if you were getting one. I bet there'll be another epic wait on the cards if you did get an early order in for the MK3 though.
It looks fantastic too. Will be expensive though, certainly will be tempted when the first batch are a few years old and pick up a second hand one.
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I nearly ordered another Audi TT but decided having 2 coupes with barely any passenger space or able to carry a snowboard wasn't the practical choice and the spec of the GTi was too good & value for money to ignore.
What about a TT - same engine as the GTi therefore similar power and performance.
I've got a TT at the moment! Great cars though!
New TT is out next year, it would be daft not to wait for it if you were getting one. I bet there'll be another epic wait on the cards if you did get an early order in for the MK3 though.
It looks fantastic too. Will be expensive though, certainly will be tempted when the first batch are a few years old and pick up a second hand one.
Yip, same here. After 3 years of the golf I may head back to the mk3 TT cause I loved the mk2. My only concern would be the starting price as I reckon the TT will be moving up in the Audi price range.
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Second batch of test drives today. Drove the BMW 125d Auto and the Seat Leon FR 1.8TSI Manual.
Leon - very nice, did everything well, all the gadgets very impressive - and for the money, fully loaded its £24k - it's a tempter.
But....
The 125d was immense. Quick as you like, brilliant throttle response, auto box slick and effortless. Blows the GTD out of the water - but it's £5k more (basic) so for the money the GTD still makes sense.
Bottom line is that I think we'll go for the 125D or maybe even the 120D (which is cheaper, more efficient and still does 0-60 in 7.2 secs) depending on lease company quotes. As posted by many, nice to have a different car than two the same ie. two golfs.
Thanks for all the advice chaps! As an aside, anyone going down the company car route I'd urge you to try the 1 series - I thought it was an excellent car.
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Totally get your mindset on this, the 1 series is a very good car to drive I'm led to believe. I won't mention the U word though :whistle:
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Totally get your mindset on this, the 1 series is a very good car to drive I'm led to believe. I won't mention the U word though :whistle:
It's not that U.G.L.Y. :grin:
Great choice going with the 125d. Monster torque: 450 Nm (332 lb-ft) :shocked:
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I just don't find it ugly, but maybe I'm just weird! :laugh:
Just to throw a spanner in the works I think a contender to that is the 120d x drive - I know that effectively ruins the essence of a bmw being 4 wheel drive but she doesn't care about that..... Decisions, decisions!
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I just don't find it ugly, but maybe I'm just weird! :laugh:
Just to throw a spanner in the works I think a contender to that is the 120d x drive - I know that effectively ruins the essence of a bmw being 4 wheel drive but she doesn't care about that..... Decisions, decisions!
I'm with you, I think the current 1er looks good in M-Sport trim, the lower spec models look a bit meh.
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I just don't find it ugly, but maybe I'm just weird! :laugh:
Just to throw a spanner in the works I think a contender to that is the 120d x drive - I know that effectively ruins the essence of a bmw being 4 wheel drive but she doesn't care about that..... Decisions, decisions!
I'm with you, I think the current 1er looks good in M-Sport trim, the lower spec models look a bit meh.
Yep, has to be M Sport - that's like all cars though, eg a normal Golf looks meh whereby a GTI looks :evil:
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I just don't find it ugly, but maybe I'm just weird! :laugh:
Just to throw a spanner in the works I think a contender to that is the 120d x drive - I know that effectively ruins the essence of a bmw being 4 wheel drive but she doesn't care about that..... Decisions, decisions!
The latest one does look much better in the flesh, it's clearly not that photogenic but who cares, I'm sure it will look just fine next to the Golf. Good decision IMO :wink:
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@matchboy:
125d M Sport is a superb car and so is the 120d M Sport. Sensible choices. Congratulations.
The BMW F20 Series is not ugly to these eyes. It's an organic looking design and in M Sport guise and with the right engine, it is very much a Premium Performance Hot Hatchback.
Next to the F20 series, the Golf, whether it is a GTI or not, looks like a box and the Audi A3 Sportback reminds one of a breadvan. The BMW is my No1 choice (I really have warmed to its design) and I don't mind the Golf box which has its particular charm and unique look. But I simply cannot warm to the third car in this trio especially as a Sportback.
The ZF 8 speed Sport Auto box is tremendous. I would sacrifice xDrive just for the box.
Enjoy.
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@matchboy:
125d M Sport is a superb car and so is the 120d M Sport. Sensible choices. Congratulations.
The BMW F20 Series is not ugly to these eyes. It's an organic looking design and in M Sport guise and with the right engine, it is very much a Premium Performance Hot Hatchback.
Next to the F20 series, the Golf, whether it is a GTI or not, looks like a box and the Audi A3 Sportback reminds one of a breadvan. The BMW is my No1 choice (I really have warmed to its design) and I don't mind the Golf box which has its particular charm and unique look. But I simply cannot warm to the third car in this trio especially as a Sportback.
The ZF 8 speed Sport Auto box is tremendous. I would sacrifice xDrive just for the box.
Enjoy.
They are great cars, I really enjoyed driving the 125d. But just to clarify if I hadn't of all ready ordered a GTI then that's what she'd be buying - the 1 series is very nice - but it's no GTI.
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@matchboy:
125d M Sport is a superb car and so is the 120d M Sport. Sensible choices. Congratulations.
The BMW F20 Series is not ugly to these eyes. It's an organic looking design and in M Sport guise and with the right engine, it is very much a Premium Performance Hot Hatchback.
Next to the F20 series, the Golf, whether it is a GTI or not, looks like a box and the Audi A3 Sportback reminds one of a breadvan. The BMW is my No1 choice (I really have warmed to its design) and I don't mind the Golf box which has its particular charm and unique look. But I simply cannot warm to the third car in this trio especially as a Sportback.
The ZF 8 speed Sport Auto box is tremendous. I would sacrifice xDrive just for the box.
Enjoy.
We have just traded our MK6 Gti for a 120d M-Sport, test drove the 120d, 125d and also the M135i and sadly sensible head took over and we went for the lower power option bit it's a lovely car.
The addition of the Visibility pack has helped a bit with its ugly nose, but 3 door really boosts the rest of the aesthetics.
Not sure what delivery date you have been told but we are looking at last week in September, which is not too shabby.
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Thanks Raffe, that's good to know as it'll probably be the 120d we plump for. We were told 8-10 weeks from placing the order.
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Thanks Raffe, that's good to know as it'll probably be the 120d we plump for. We were told 8-10 weeks from placing the order.
Good choice Mark. Very nice car!
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Thanks Raffe, that's good to know as it'll probably be the 120d we plump for. We were told 8-10 weeks from placing the order.
Good choice Mark. Very nice car!
Yeah I like it. 0-60 in 7.2 secs & 4WD - and unlike most we both like the look of the 1 series!! :laugh:
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@matchboy:
Smart choice. Great bit of mixing. Two excellent cars and quite different. What fun. As they say, variety is the spice of life.
@Raffe:
Hope you enjoy your car when it arrives.
Both Mk7 Golfs and BMW 1 Series are excellent cars. I'd be happy with either as long as the Mk7 Golf chosen has multilink rear suspension.
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Thanks Raffe, that's good to know as it'll probably be the 120d we plump for. We were told 8-10 weeks from placing the order.
In all honesty the 120d felt plenty punchy enough, and the 125d didn't seem enough of a power jump to justify additional cost.
Good luck on your choice, it took us 2 hours in the dealership to finalise spec, good fun though :cool:
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Thanks Raffe, that's good to know as it'll probably be the 120d we plump for. We were told 8-10 weeks from placing the order.
In all honesty the 120d felt plenty punchy enough, and the 125d didn't seem enough of a power jump to justify additional cost.
Good luck on your choice, it took us 2 hours in the dealership to finalise spec, good fun though :cool:
Great fun isn't it, I could sit there for hours when speccing a car out!!
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We ended up with a Mineral Grey 3 door with Visibility Pack (a must have) Comfort Pack (rear pdc, cruise & servo assisted steering) Sun Protection Pack and BMW loudspeaker upgrade.
Wife doesn't do lots of travelling so no need for Nav, doesn't like the leather in our Golf so stuck with cloth and prefers a manual even though I did my best to get the auto.
Only thing I probably should have added was the black panel display and folding mirros but we had to draw a line in the sand and stop adding bits :grin:
Good luck :cool:
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Some nice extras there! I assume the visibility pack are the xenons? I agree, a must. We won't go for leather either, although its much better than the VW leather and cheaper at £800, it's still £800 (plus another £295 for heated seats). Other extras we'll have is the Nav (she needs it), the Harmon Kardon system and probably the interior light pack as well. I'd love to add more like the folding mirrors and parking sensors but like you say you have to draw the line somewhere!
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You guys are lucky that you have wife's who are into cars and who let you have a say. My partner has just traded her cooper s in for a DS3 because of the "nice sparkly lights" :cry: :cry: oh well at least it's a sport model but its not a patch on the cooper s performance. At least my spine won't be shattering any longer from the run flats.
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You guys are lucky that you have wife's who are into cars and who let you have a say. My partner has just traded her cooper s in for a DS3 because of the "nice sparkly lights" :cry: :cry: oh well at least it's a sport model but its not a patch on the cooper s performance. At least my spine won't be shattering any longer from the run flats.
:grin: She used to know more about cars than me! Not anymore though :laugh:
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Some nice extras there! I assume the visibility pack are the xenons? I agree, a must. We won't go for leather either, although its much better than the VW leather and cheaper at £800, it's still £800 (plus another £295 for heated seats). Other extras we'll have is the Nav (she needs it), the Harmon Kardon system and probably the interior light pack as well. I'd love to add more like the folding mirrors and parking sensors but like you say you have to draw the line somewhere!
The HK is fantastic but double the cost of the loud speaker upgrade which already sounds 100% better than our old Golf as i have it in my 3 series so we are pleased.
What colour you aiming for?
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Some nice extras there! I assume the visibility pack are the xenons? I agree, a must. We won't go for leather either, although its much better than the VW leather and cheaper at £800, it's still £800 (plus another £295 for heated seats). Other extras we'll have is the Nav (she needs it), the Harmon Kardon system and probably the interior light pack as well. I'd love to add more like the folding mirrors and parking sensors but like you say you have to draw the line somewhere!
The HK is fantastic but double the cost of the loud speaker upgrade which already sounds 100% better than our old Golf as i have it in my 3 series so we are pleased.
What colour you aiming for?
Estoril blue, the missus loves it! I may yet go for the loudspeaker system as she's not bothered but I'll need some form of sound upgrade for when I borrow her car! And its cheaper and will sound better than the normal system (which is pants, the one in my 3 series was awful). Just a shame we have to wait until next year to get it as she can't hand her car back till then!
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I do quite like the 1 Series in M Sport guise. The 120d was the only other car I looked at before deciding on the GTD.
I really took the huff with BMW the second I found out things like Dimming Rear View Mirror, Lumbar Support and Split Folding Rear seats were optional extras.
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I do quite like the 1 Series in M Sport guise. The 120d was the only other car I looked at before deciding on the GTD.
I really took the huff with BMW the second I found out things like Dimming Rear View Mirror, Lumbar Support and Split Folding Rear seats were optional extras.
That's the only trouble with BMW. All the standard kit that's on the GTI/D eg. parking sensors, folding mirrors etc are an option. Individually they're not too bad price wise, but then once you add a few on it suddenly adds up!
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I do quite like the 1 Series in M Sport guise. The 120d was the only other car I looked at before deciding on the GTD.
I really took the huff with BMW the second I found out things like Dimming Rear View Mirror, Lumbar Support and Split Folding Rear seats were optional extras.
That's the only trouble with BMW. All the standard kit that's on the GTI/D eg. parking sensors, folding mirrors etc are an option. Individually they're not too bad price wise, but then once you add a few on it suddenly adds up!
Well that's it.
Just out of interest i've checked, and standard kit on the Golf which is optional (Or not even available) on the 1 Series includes - Tinted Windows, Headlight Washers, Xenons, Auto Lights, Auto Wipers, Folding Mirrors, Front & Rear Parking Sensors, Radar Cruise Control, Adaptive Steering, Folding Rear Seats, Lumbar Support, Auto Dimming Mirrors, Cornering Headlights, Speed Limit Display, Motorway Lane assist..
The list is endless. Then to add the Visibility pack (Which I also agree is a must have) costs £1,100!!! For stuff that should be standard on a car of this level.
Then there's the expense of other options such as £330 for the reversing camera, or £600 for Front & Rear Parking sensors. It really does baffle the mind.
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When you list it out like that, that's a shed load of options that are free on the golf! Just shows what good value it really is!
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When you list it out like that, that's a shed load of options that are free on the golf! Just shows what good value it really is!
Bang on! The standard spec is just awesome on the car
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I do quite like the 1 Series in M Sport guise. The 120d was the only other car I looked at before deciding on the GTD.
I really took the huff with BMW the second I found out things like Dimming Rear View Mirror, Lumbar Support and Split Folding Rear seats were optional extras.
That's the only trouble with BMW. All the standard kit that's on the GTI/D eg. parking sensors, folding mirrors etc are an option. Individually they're not too bad price wise, but then once you add a few on it suddenly adds up!
Well that's it.
Just out of interest i've checked, and standard kit on the Golf which is optional (Or not even available) on the 1 Series includes - Tinted Windows, Headlight Washers, Xenons, Auto Lights, Auto Wipers, Folding Mirrors, Front & Rear Parking Sensors, Radar Cruise Control, Adaptive Steering, Folding Rear Seats, Lumbar Support, Auto Dimming Mirrors, Cornering Headlights, Speed Limit Display, Motorway Lane assist..
The list is endless. Then to add the Visibility pack (Which I also agree is a must have) costs £1,100!!! For stuff that should be standard on a car of this level.
Then there's the expense of other options such as £330 for the reversing camera, or £600 for Front & Rear Parking sensors. It really does baffle the mind.
Isn't lane assist a £500 option on the Golf? It's not standard.
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Didn't think it was an option, thought it was standard.
Either way even if you take this off the list, it's still a massive difference!
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Didn't think it was an option, thought it was standard.
Either way even if you take this off the list, it's still a massive difference!
Headlight wash, autodimming rear view mirror, rain sensors and auto ,xenons (adaptive), cruise control with braking functions are all £0.00 extras (for some reason you have to select them in the configurator, but they come at no charge. :huh: Not sure who wouldn't select free equipment.
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Didn't think it was an option, thought it was standard.
Either way even if you take this off the list, it's still a massive difference!
Headlight wash, autodimming rear view mirror, rain sensors and auto ,xenons (adaptive), cruise control with braking functions are all £0.00 extras (for some reason you have to select them in the configurator, but they come at no charge. :huh: Not sure who wouldn't select free equipment.
They're not free monkeyhanger - although it says £0.00, when you select it it says you must select the pack that goes with it eg. xenons £0.00 but then it says you have to pick the xenon pack £590. Its a bit misleading.
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Didn't think it was an option, thought it was standard.
Either way even if you take this off the list, it's still a massive difference!
Headlight wash, autodimming rear view mirror, rain sensors and auto ,xenons (adaptive), cruise control with braking functions are all £0.00 extras (for some reason you have to select them in the configurator, but they come at no charge. :huh: Not sure who wouldn't select free equipment.
They're not free monkeyhanger - although it says £0.00, when you select it it says you must select the pack that goes with it eg. xenons £0.00 but then it says you have to pick the xenon pack £590. Its a bit misleading.
Very misleading. Do all 1 series all still come with those awful runflats?
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Very misleading. Do all 1 series all still come with those awful runflats?
I hope not but I fear that they do. Makes such a difference to the price of new tyres, wish they wouldn't bother!
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Very misleading. Do all 1 series all still come with those awful runflats?
I hope not but I fear that they do. Makes such a difference to the price of new tyres, wish they wouldn't bother!
I was thinking more of the ride quality than the cost, but they are very expensive to replace also. They're like Fred Flinstone tyres (solid rock).
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Very misleading. Do all 1 series all still come with those awful runflats?
I hope not but I fear that they do. Makes such a difference to the price of new tyres, wish they wouldn't bother!
I was thinking more of the ride quality than the cost, but they are very expensive to replace also. They're like Fred Flinstone tyres (solid rock).
Yes, they are very hard. I had them on my 3 series and (although it didn't bother me) the ride was very, very firm. And all 4 tyres cost me £1,100 to replace. In January. F7ckin' cheers!
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Yes, they are very hard. I had them on my 3 series and (although it didn't bother me) the ride was very, very firm. And all 4 tyres cost me £1,100 to replace. In January. F7ckin' cheers!
Pothole damage? The main reason I am dreading Dunlops - shagged 3 of those on my first Roc in it's first winter (sidewall bulge), 2nd Roc came with Pirelli P7s. Hoping to get Bridgestone, Continental or Pirellis on the GTD
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Runflat tyres are standard on the 1 Series.
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Yes, they are very hard. I had them on my 3 series and (although it didn't bother me) the ride was very, very firm. And all 4 tyres cost me £1,100 to replace. In January. F7ckin' cheers!
Pothole damage? The main reason I am dreading Dunlops - shagged 3 of those on my first Roc in it's first winter (sidewall bulge), 2nd Roc came with Pirelli P7s. Hoping to get Bridgestone, Continental or Pirellis on the GTD
Potholes, one bulge and the rest nearly bald! Yep, me too, can't stand the Dunlops.
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They're not free monkeyhanger - although it says £0.00, when you select it it says you must select the pack that goes with it eg. xenons £0.00 but then it says you have to pick the xenon pack £590. Its a bit misleading.
This caught me out too. I tried to spec a similar M135i to my GTI order... didn't work out great.
Sat Nav costs moneys! Thought it was free...
Parking sensors
Cruise
Sunroof
5dr Auto
Nice blue colour
Came out near £35k I think. Ok, not got any discount on doing it like that, but then a lot of standard GTI options I left off which I would miss (Xenons for a start add £1k). If you go 3dr manual and don't add much spec you'll get a good price, say £28k. To get what I'm getting in the GTI would be £33k+ depending on how many options you sacrifice. When you add in the not great looks and the fact that its rear wheel drive so I'll probably crash it in the first month the fast lead time stops being attractive to me.
I prefer the 1-series coupe look. Although it does seem to have freakishly huge doors. Those things are like vast billowing sails... :shocked:
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Just out of interest I specced a Golf GT 1.4 to GTI levels with 18" alloys and Xenons/led DRLs etc. It came to only £800 less than the GTI (ok it also has basic Nav as a bonus). Shocked.
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Just out of interest I specced a Golf GT 1.4 to GTI levels with 18" alloys and Xenons/led DRLs etc. It came to only £800 less than the GTI (ok it also has basic Nav as a bonus). Shocked.
There is a big GFV difference too between GT and GTI/GTD. Overall, getting a vanilla GTD on solutions for 3 years and giving it back at the end costs £72 less than getting a vanilla 150TDI GT (taking into account both deposit and monthly payments) due to 47% GTV on the GT and 56% on the GTD. I haven't compared a 140 TSI ACT GT to a GTI but I bet there won't be much in it either.