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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Ginge 35Edition on 14 May 2013, 19:30
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Are the wheel fitments the same on the mk7? Just wondering if my 10mm spacers would fit? I think we've probably spoken about this before? :laugh:
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I've been wondering the same thing.
I have a set of H&R 10mm's waiting for the mk7 but I know the Scirocco had slightly different hubs on the back so the spigot is different. So I'm expecting to have to invest in another set.
That's if I keep the standard wheels on.
Will bolt the BBSs on and see how they look but quite keen to keep the mk7 fully OEM looking.
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One thing about the 7 is although the track is supposedly wider it does look like the wheels are tucked in the arches a bit more than the 6 so may well invest in a set of spacers.
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Forgive my ignorance, but are there any negative implications to fitting spacers? Increased tyre wear? More strain on suspension components? Arch rubbing on bumps?
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Forgive my ignorance, but are there any negative implications to fitting spacers? Increased tyre wear? More strain on suspension components? Arch rubbing on bumps?
Tyre wear shouldn't be an issue.
Minimal strain on suspension if any as we're not talking super wide 'stance' show scene looks here, just bringing the wheel out to fill the arch a bit.
No arch rubbing if you use sensible size.
Just remember to tell your insurance as it is a modification.
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I've had no issues on mine and as said above they're only 10mm to bring the wheel in line with the arch a bit.
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I've had no issues on mine and as said above they're only 10mm to bring the wheel in line with the arch a bit.
Did your Scirocco spacers fit? I'm looking to get a set but not many people list them for the Mk7 yet...
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Noticed that GrahamFR posted on a different thread on 17/12/13 that he had fitted 15mm spacers, I am thinking of doing this but dont want it to look like a teenagers Corsa in Tesco carpark :grin: Am I right to think its just the rear that the spacers are fitted? I looked last night and the front dont look too bad, 10mm or 15mm? :undecided:
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Noticed that GrahamFR posted on a different thread on 17/12/13 that he had fitted 15mm spacers, I am thinking of doing this but dont want it to look like a teenagers Corsa in Tesco carpark :grin: Am I right to think its just the rear that the spacers are fitted? I looked last night and the front dont look too bad, 10mm or 15mm? :undecided:
Yes i have just fitted the rear, and no i dont look like a Maccy D's Rudeboy just yet :wink:
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Noticed that GrahamFR posted on a different thread on 17/12/13 that he had fitted 15mm spacers, I am thinking of doing this but dont want it to look like a teenagers Corsa in Tesco carpark :grin: Am I right to think its just the rear that the spacers are fitted? I looked last night and the front dont look too bad, 10mm or 15mm? :undecided:
Yes i have just fitted the rear, and no i dont look like a Maccy D's Rudeboy just yet :wink:
Yeah think I'm going for the 15mm, where did you get them from?
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Noticed that GrahamFR posted on a different thread on 17/12/13 that he had fitted 15mm spacers, I am thinking of doing this but dont want it to look like a teenagers Corsa in Tesco carpark :grin: Am I right to think its just the rear that the spacers are fitted? I looked last night and the front dont look too bad, 10mm or 15mm? :undecided:
Yes i have just fitted the rear, and no i dont look like a Maccy D's Rudeboy just yet :wink:
Yeah think I'm going for the 15mm, where did you get them from?
Royal Wax on fleabay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251288025552?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3257wt_904&clk_rvr_id=574466342453&afsrc=1#ht_3110wt_1161
others are available just make sure you get hubcentric and dont buy them if they are much cheaper than those
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Royal Wax on fleabay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251288025552?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3257wt_904&clk_rvr_id=574466342453&afsrc=1#ht_3110wt_1161
others are available just make sure you get hubcentric and dont buy them if they are much cheaper than those
Any chance the standard locking bolts fit? Or do we need to consider paying for locking ones on top of that?
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Noticed that GrahamFR posted on a different thread on 17/12/13 that he had fitted 15mm spacers, I am thinking of doing this but dont want it to look like a teenagers Corsa in Tesco carpark :grin: Am I right to think its just the rear that the spacers are fitted? I looked last night and the front dont look too bad, 10mm or 15mm? :undecided:
Yes i have just fitted the rear, and no i dont look like a Maccy D's Rudeboy just yet :wink:
Yeah think I'm going for the 15mm, where did you get them from?
Royal Wax on fleabay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251288025552?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3257wt_904&clk_rvr_id=574466342453&afsrc=1#ht_3110wt_1161
others are available just make sure you get hubcentric and dont buy them if they are much cheaper than those
Thanks for that, much appreciated
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Royal Wax on fleabay - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251288025552?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3257wt_904&clk_rvr_id=574466342453&afsrc=1#ht_3110wt_1161
others are available just make sure you get hubcentric and dont buy them if they are much cheaper than those
Any chance the standard locking bolts fit? Or do we need to consider paying for locking ones on top of that?
No you need to get a longer one on top of that.
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And then you will need a new black cover cap to suit the shape of it, or if you dont bother with a locking one, you will need 2 more normal vw caps (suggest you go blag your dealers)
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in prediction of the next question http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M14X1-5-40MM-LONG-EXTENDED-ALLOY-WHEEL-LOCKING-BOLTS-FIT-VW-T5-TRANSPORTER-/181300921917?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_Trim_Nuts_ET&hash=item2a3660863d#ht_965wt_1161
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Graham: Any idea if the mk5/6 Golf fitment spacers fit the rear of the mk7 or does it need Scirocco fitment spec?
I've got H&R's from my old mk6 but haven't got round to trying them yet.
And I'll need the longer bolts too as mine are the wrong seats for OEM wheels.
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Graham: Any idea if the mk5/6 Golf fitment spacers fit the rear of the mk7 or does it need Scirocco fitment spec?
I've got H&R's from my old mk6 but haven't got round to trying them yet.
And I'll need the longer bolts too as mine are the wrong seats for OEM wheels.
No idea I am afraid but worth a shot
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Ordered some 15mm ones from here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370932551750 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370932551750)
£36.19 delivered :smiley:
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Link seems a bit broke...
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Ordered some 15mm ones from here [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370932551750[url]
£36.19 delivered :smiley:
Will you also need to replace all the bolts?
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Link seems a bit broke...
Link fixed :smiley:
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Ordered some 15mm ones from here [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370932551750[url]
£36.19 delivered :smiley:
Will you also need to replace all the bolts?
I'll let you know...
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Glad you've fixed it, now let me in part some wisdom I found out the other day. We have radial bolts not tapered, its not the end of the world but get them emailed and tell them to swap the bolts for the right bolts that should always be supplied for a mk7 golf!
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Glad you've fixed it, now let me in part some wisdom I found out the other day. We have radial bolts not tapered, its not the end of the world but get them emailed and tell them to swap the bolts for the right bolts that should always be supplied for a mk7 golf!
Good tip, thanks. They're en route but I'll drop them an email to raise the subject. Do you still run the fronts without spacers?
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Yeah, no doubt I'll change that when I get bored but right now I don't think the fronts need it and if they do its only like 10mm so it ain't worth it imo but as I say I'm sure I will do one day
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Yeah, no doubt I'll change that when I get bored but right now I don't think the fronts need it and if they do its only like 10mm so it ain't worth it imo but as I say I'm sure I will do one day
Cool, following your lead. Gonna see if I think the fronts need doing once these are on....
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Good find Monsta. Make sure you get some before and after pics of them. Wouldn't mind a set myself.
J
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Before and after;
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/2014-02-23155723_zps5f2f0681.jpg)(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/2014-02-23161607_zpsbd5b0b56.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/2014-02-23161628_zps70fbf716.jpg)
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That looks terrific! How did you get on with the bolt scenario?
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That looks terrific! How did you get on with the bolt scenario?
Tapered bolts supplied, there wasn't much difference in the shape when I took the originals off so I have just used them. If you're ordering a set then request radius seated ones perhaps. See below for the difference.
(http://www.priracing.com/images/t_bolttypes.jpg)
Need to get a set of locking bolts too for additional piece of mind and I'm going to order some of the black plastic bolt covers too as the one that covered the original locking nut has a different shape so one nut is currently exposed :smiley:
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Here's what I swapped mine with monsta but you will probably be ok but then again never say never lol http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/370639904303?txnId=559881481024
Whats your thoughts on the fronts, do you think it needs some?
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Thanks for the pics Monsta :wink:
J
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Here's what I swapped mine with monsta but you will probably be ok but then again never say never lol http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/370639904303?txnId=559881481024
Whats your thoughts on the fronts, do you think it needs some?
Are they long enough? Might get some of those, not a bad price I guess.
I think I'm going to do the fronts, but maybe 10mm instead of 15.
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Here's what I swapped mine with monsta but you will probably be ok but then again never say never lol http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/370639904303?txnId=559881481024
Whats your thoughts on the fronts, do you think it needs some?
Are they long enough? Might get some of those, not a bad price I guess.
I think I'm going to do the fronts, but maybe 10mm instead of 15.
You have me worried now youve said that lol. I meaured the tapered bolts and got 42mm, i couldnt find any 42mm but i could find 40mm so assumed it was my dodgy measuring skills, however when they arrived they were slightly shorter than the old ones, but their on my car and im still here. Ill take one off tonight and see if there are any unusual stress marks on it just to be sure.
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Here's what I swapped mine with monsta but you will probably be ok but then again never say never lol http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/370639904303?txnId=559881481024
Whats your thoughts on the fronts, do you think it needs some?
Are they long enough? Might get some of those, not a bad price I guess.
I think I'm going to do the fronts, but maybe 10mm instead of 15.
You have me worried now youve said that lol. I meaured the tapered bolts and got 42mm, i couldnt find any 42mm but i could find 40mm so assumed it was my dodgy measuring skills, however when they arrived they were slightly shorter than the old ones, but their on my car and im still here. Ill take one off tonight and see if there are any unusual stress marks on it just to be sure.
2mm isn't a great deal, I'm sure they'll be alright!
I've just been out in mine and got a chance to look at the car properly from behind. It looks much more aggressive with the wheels that little bit further out! Very happy.
The fronts are next, definitely.
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Nice one Monsta, glad you're happy with it. How far are you thinking of going with the fronts?
J
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I'm running 8x18 ET44 alloys on my GTI which gives me roughly 11mm(?) equivalent of a spacer on the Austins.
There's room for a few more millimetres on the rear of my car but I'd say not much more than 3 or 4 mm on the front without danger of catching the arch on speed humps. So I'd say 10 to 12mm max on the fronts on the Austins would be ok.
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I'm running 8x18 ET44 alloys on my GTI which gives me roughly 11mm(?) equivalent of a spacer on the Austins.
There's room for a few more millimetres on the rear of my car but I'd say not much more than 3 or 4 mm on the front without danger of catching the arch on speed humps. So I'd say 10 to 12mm max on the fronts on the Austins would be ok.
Cheers for that, I was thinking 10mm on the front so useful info :smiley:
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So has anyone done the fronts yet? Would be great to see some pics!
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Think monsta did can't remember where pics are tho
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Haven't done fronts yet, still somewhere on my list though :smiley:
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Well I'm sure somebody has put 10mm on the front
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Well I've now had the car for 4 days and I'm looking at what I can tinker with! Haha I think spacers will look good but if anyone has more pics they would be much appreciated; especially a full rear view or some more comparison shots from the back.
General consensus seems to be 15mm for the back and 10mm for the front? With longer (radial) bolts and longer locking bolts too?
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Hi guys sorry for bumping an old thread but I'm looking for advice on spacers. What's the max thickness to go for without any rubbing on the Austins? I have VWR springs fitted too.
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Fancy these myself but with a car on a pcp contract I can't really...or well so says the lad at vw. Have to hand it back as I collected it
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Fancy these myself but with a car on a pcp contract I can't really...or well so says the lad at vw. Have to hand it back as I collected it
Theres actually no terms and conditions in the PCP contract that says you have to take the car back in it's standard form and even if they want you to hand it back the way it was to begin with then why not just take the spacers off before driving it back?
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You sure? Well a lot off hassle as I wouldn't be adding the spacers myself id get a mate to do it. Id just hate to hand it back and they have a fit ive made slight mods and refuse to take it back or they turn round and tell me I have to pay for the removal or whatever it may be
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Surely you know how to take a wheel off your car, there is not much more to it pal
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You sure? Well a lot off hassle as I wouldn't be adding the spacers myself id get a mate to do it. Id just hate to hand it back and they have a fit ive made slight mods and refuse to take it back or they turn round and tell me I have to pay for the removal or whatever it may be
Yes I've read through all the T&C's it just states the car must be returned in line with the fair, wear & tear policy and serviced on time at a authorised VW garage.
80% of modded GTI's are probably on some form of PCP plan.
Wheel spacers are easy to install, wheel off, spacer on, wheel on.
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Surely you know how to take a wheel off your car, there is not much more to it pal
Far from a mechanic as youd get so I have no clue as to what is involved. I just had a nose on youtube and its pretty easy by the looks of it. It does mention anti-seize...is this necessary? It makes the car look far better so think il put an order in over the weekend for some.
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You sure? Well a lot off hassle as I wouldn't be adding the spacers myself id get a mate to do it. Id just hate to hand it back and they have a fit ive made slight mods and refuse to take it back or they turn round and tell me I have to pay for the removal or whatever it may be
Yes I've read through all the T&C's it just states the car must be returned in line with the fair, wear & tear policy and serviced on time at a authorised VW garage.
80% of modded GTI's are probably on some form of PCP plan.
Wheel spacers are easy to install, wheel off, spacer on, wheel on.
Right, lad at VW clearly tried to put fear of god in me so I wouldn't feck about with the car. Need to read the start of this thread as to the best set to buy.
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After almost 7 months with the car, first upgrade I'd like to fit is the wheel spacers. The only reason I haven't yet is due to how awful some roads are in my country. Would it significantly affect the ride quality? And would it cause me any extra wear or suspension issues? The car has been through some rough roads even been off road at one point lol. So I predict that I'll be having issues soon and I wouldn't want the spacers to shorten the lifespan even more.
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I fitted spacers at the weekend. I went with H&R as they get great reviews. I went with 12's on the front and 20's on the back. When I asked my H&R dealer about longer bolts he said H&R are now doing bolt sets with locking bolts that are identical to oem.
I didnt believe him that they would be identical to the oem bolts but I was wrong. Either H&R make the oem bolts or they sourced them from the same company that make them for VW because they were identical to the oem bolts. Even the lock nut key looked the same.
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(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/Mk7/A01C74EB-5EE9-40D0-AE2A-D4E12C758681_zpsiabvz6zs.jpg)
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/Mk7/5B91F989-94B2-4809-8E4F-DF1DD52F4ED0_zpsmaytoege.jpg)
(http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv79/kevinm_photobucket/Mk7/FB962C5C-7D81-4558-989E-80FF706E3070_zpsxhodgi2s.jpg)
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Do you have before and after pics?
J
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After almost 7 months with the car, first upgrade I'd like to fit is the wheel spacers. The only reason I haven't yet is due to how awful some roads are in my country. Would it significantly affect the ride quality? And would it cause me any extra wear or suspension issues? The car has been through some rough roads even been off road at one point lol. So I predict that I'll be having issues soon and I wouldn't want the spacers to shorten the lifespan even more.
Shouldn't adversely effect the ride quality.
Spacers will put extra stress on the wheel bearings and transfer additional load through the rest of the suspension but not excessively so unless they are very thick.
They may cause your car to tramline more...
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Before and after;
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(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab308/justinwanstall/2014-02-23161628_zps70fbf716.jpg)
Looks like 15mm spacers give the rear wheels just the right amount of poke. I'm gonna get some ordered up. Did u ever get round to getting 10mm spacers for the front?
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15mm spacers now ordered for my Gti's rear end. Hopefully this will sort the stance, which currently looks gash!
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What spacers did you go for Snooze, and how much, if you don't mind? I need a set myself
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What spacers did you go for Snooze, and how much, if you don't mind? I need a set myself
Bought these. Trying to find some 40mm locking wheel nuts now, but not having much luck.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=281582120892
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Thanks. Those look pretty good value.
I'm sure there must be long lockers out there.
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They were the cheapest I found. Will keep searching for the 40mm locking nuts. Let me know if you have any luck!
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I'll be on the case properly tomorrow :smiley:
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Nice one. I've found these, but they seem quite expensive. Can't find any others:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=290780538480
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Not toooo bad a price.
I'll have a look see if any of the wheel specialists are knocking out OEM quality ones at sensible money.
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Mcgard 41mm locking bolts will do the job and great quality too, I've had the same set for 8 years and 3 cars! :smiley:
Part number 28025SU for the OE radius seat in M14x1.5 41mm long
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Just dipped into the marque pages and glad to see that a post i started over two years ago is going strong, I love this forum!!!
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Just dipped into the marque pages and glad to see that a post i started over two years ago is going strong, I love this forum!!!
:grin: The power of the internet!
@ Snooze These are the ones Beddie has recommended at a decent price. Top quality lockers
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Mcgard 41mm locking bolts will do the job and great quality too, I've had the same set for 8 years and 3 cars! :smiley:
Part number 28025SU for the OE radius seat in M14x1.5 41mm long
Awesome and only £29.04 from Amazon with free postage!
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Just dipped into the marque pages and glad to see that a post i started over two years ago is going strong, I love this forum!!!
:grin: The power of the internet!
@ Snooze These are the ones Beddie has recommended at a decent price. Top quality lockers
Balls, didn't attach the link!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/McGard-Black-Edition-Locking-Wheel-Bolts-M14-x-1-5-Radius-Seat-17mm-Head-/321739573151?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae92c479f
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Another option:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/28025SU-radius-length-Overall-diameter/dp/B0048EJNZC
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So I'm still undecided on what width spacers to go for on the front wheels. Just popped to the shops and had a quick look and I'm not sure if 10mm will be right or not. The 15mm spacers for my rear wheels will arrive on Tuesday, so once I have those fitted ill break out the old tape measure!
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Took a pic to show just how bad the offset on the rear wheels looks. Fronts aren't too bad. But why aren't they the same offset?
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/Snooze9/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BDFD8EF1-B2C9-4CFD-97E0-CEB5625A1B6A.jpg) (http://s1091.photobucket.com/user/Snooze9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BDFD8EF1-B2C9-4CFD-97E0-CEB5625A1B6A.jpg.html)
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Took a pic to show just how bad the offset on the rear wheels looks. Fronts aren't too bad. But why aren't they the same offset?
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i388/Snooze9/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BDFD8EF1-B2C9-4CFD-97E0-CEB5625A1B6A.jpg) (http://s1091.photobucket.com/user/Snooze9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/BDFD8EF1-B2C9-4CFD-97E0-CEB5625A1B6A.jpg.html)
All 4 wheels are exactly the same offset (ET51 for the austins iirc), it's just that the rear track width is narrower than the front, probably to do with clearance when fully loaded and VW playing it extra safe etc
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Oh I see. That's weird and I don't like it!
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Yeah it's rubbish! Been like that on Golfs since the mk3 days (and maybe earlier?!), first mod I did to my mk4 golf was 15mm rear spacers! :smiley:
Getting the 'stance' right can be a funny old thing, I had 10mm front and rear on my mk5 ed30 and to me it was perfect as the car was lowered, same spacers on my standard suspension mk6 are perfect on the rear but I've left them off the front as they make the front wheels poke out from the arch line, lowered it would be spot on though!
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Yeah it's rubbish! Been like that on Golfs since the mk3 days (and maybe earlier?!), first mod I did to my mk4 golf was 15mm rear spacers! :smiley:
Getting the 'stance' right can be a funny old thing, I had 10mm front and rear on my mk5 ed30 and to me it was perfect as the car was lowered, same spacers on my standard suspension mk6 are perfect on the rear but I've left them off the front as they make the front wheels poke out from the arch line, lowered it would be spot on though!
That's interesting to hear. I was happy with the stance on my mk6.
So I googled track width and the rear end is 31mm narrower than the front. So 15mm spacers should fix things perfectly!
I am a little bit worried about fitting spacers i.e fitting modifications. Can you allay my fears beddie?
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Well I've had spacers on all my VWs (8 cars and 15 years) with only 1 issue in all that time - a rear spacer fractured its hub centric ring but that was down to the brand of spacer used (FK automotive crap) rather than a fault with spacers in general,
Some people would say they increase wheel bearing loading and whilst that is true when taken to extremes, but when using 10/12/15mm spacers i don't see any issues - after all running aftermarket wheels such as BBS CH-r in 8.5 et47 is just like running the austins 7.5 et51 with a 16mm spacer
I used spacers on thousands of road miles and loads of track days including the Ring without any issues, it'll be reet :smiley:
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Hey Guys,
Been tracking this tread regarding the Spacers, the link on ebay -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281582120892?rmvSB=true#ht_800wt_882
Would be a good enough buy?
Also I will need 40mm Locking nuts?
Please advise the best way forward
Cheers
Doug
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@hastd2, personally I wouldn't go for those spacers you have linked to, they could be perfectly fine but as I've had an issue with 'cheap' spacers in the past I personally won't use any other brand than H&R now :smiley:
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Hi Beedie,
I looked at the H&R website last night and i was an American site and all prices were in $$$.....do they have a UK base?
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Hi Beedie,
I looked at the H&R website last night and i was an American site and all prices were in $$$.....do they have a UK base?
Damien @ DPM performance is your best bet :smiley:
https://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/car-parts/volkswagen/golf/buy/wheel-spacers
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After some deliberation I've decided to park the spacers plan for the moment. The cheaper spacers on the market appear to have some risk attached and I'm not willing to fork out £100 odd for eibach or h&r ones. Cheers for everyone's advice/input and I hope others may have found this post helpful.
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Hi Beedie,
I looked at the H&R website last night and i was an American site and all prices were in $$$.....do they have a UK base?
Damien @ DPM performance is your best bet :smiley:
https://www.dpmperformance.co.uk/car-parts/volkswagen/golf/buy/wheel-spacers
Bookmarked!
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Hey Guys,
Been tracking this tread regarding the Spacers, the link on ebay -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281582120892?rmvSB=true#ht_800wt_882
Would be a good enough buy?
Also I will need 40mm Locking nuts?
Please advise the best way forward
Cheers
Doug
You will indeed need 40mm locking nuts. I was recommended these ones:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/28025SU-radius-length-Overall-diameter/dp/B0048EJNZC
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I'm thinking of getting some spacers myself but seem to be going round in circles :laugh:
Do the H&R spacers bolt to the hub and then the wheel bolts to the spacer as above?
I thought it bolted straight through hence the need for longer bolts.
Eurocarparts seem to do them cheaper than dpmperformance but the description is poor and I don't know what is included with them.
Or is that just for certain sizes does anyone know?
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I think it's just the pcd converters that bolt to the wheels or perhaps savers of a certain depth? The 10mm ones I had used longer bolts and went through the wheel, spacer and into the hub.
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generally 20mm spacers and above are bolted to the hub, anything thinner will be the bolt-through type requiring longer wheel bolts.
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Thanks.
After further investigating I've found: https://www.performancealloys.com/types-of-wheel-spacers.aspx
DR series 6 - 40mm require longer wheel bolts and bolt right through like a normal wheel.
DRA series 6 -60mm bolt to the hub with special bolts provided then use your originals to bolt to the spacer.
So now my other obvious question :rolleyes: if just going up to 15mm is one of them better than the other?
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P3, the bolt to hub type spacers are technically more secure and are easier to mount your wheel onto, but are heavier (unsprung weight) and you need to make sure both sets of bolts are done up 100% evenly to eliminate any chances of wheel wobble caused by the slightest amount of flex.
The differences in price you'll see with bolt through spacers between H&R retailers like DPM and Amazon sellers are that DPM sell with bolts and some other online retailers will sell minus bolts. Make 100% sure of what's included before paying and make sure you order radius bolts if using OEM wheels.
Don't go wider than 20mm on the back or 15 on the front.
I'd say 10 front and 15 back will sit pretty perfectly.
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Cheers Ex that makes perfect sense.
So I take it DPM are actually adding to the H&R spacers rather than it being an H&R all in one offering.
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I'm not sure whether they come from the importers like that or whether they add them to be honest.
So long as you get the right ones!
Damien is very good and knows his onions.
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I bought some Sparco spacers, being as they are pretty Motorsport orientated I was kind of hoping the quality would be ok (plus I like to be a bit left field at times).
They come with bolts too but the interesting thing with them (to me at least) is they come with an Allen bolt that goes into the hole on the disc so the spacer bolts to the hub that way to seat it making it easier to line up the bolt holes when you offer the wheel up. Pretty neat solution I thought.
One of those Touareg screw in things would still be very useful though...