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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 18:06

Title: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 18:06
looking at buying a 1.4 as a first car. wondering what can be done performance wise?
could i put a turbo on?
if so what does it consist of?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 30 June 2010, 18:10
Not worth it. Enjoy the fuel economy.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 18:13
why is it not worth it?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 30 June 2010, 18:16
Its a 1.4 mate, will be cheaper to buy a GTI/VR6 and you can actually buy kits for them.

I'm looking to supercharge my VR6 in time, that's not going to be cheap even with readily avaliable kits!
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 18:19
wont be able to get a GTI/VR6 as i am 18.
are there kits out there for turbos for 1.4s?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 30 June 2010, 18:23
wont be able to get a GTI/VR6 as i am 18.
are there kits out there for turbos for 1.4s?

Insurance would be cheaper on one of them, then getting a turbo.

As far as i'm aware there are no turbo kits for a 1.4, it's not a sought after engine.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 30 June 2010, 18:28
8v GTi's aren't too bad on insurance, and would be a hell of a lot cheaper than declaring a turbo on a 1.4!
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 18:28
is there any other way to get power from it then?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: tobybrennan on 30 June 2010, 18:33
is there any other way to get power from it then?

its your first car, make sure your a good driver before you start looking at increasing performance ;)
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: tobybrennan on 30 June 2010, 18:40
is there any other way to get power from it then?

pm'd you
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 30 June 2010, 18:46
is there any other way to get power from it then?

pm'd you

He doesn't have 10 posts yet lol

Mattb23 - you need to 10 posts before you can read the PM from Toby
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: tobybrennan on 30 June 2010, 18:47
is there any other way to get power from it then?

pm'd you

He doesn't have 10 posts yet lol

Mattb23 - you need to 10 posts before you can read the PM from Toby

just noticed! (Y)

thanks gti wherry
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 18:51
ok id better hurry up then. ill post some positive comments  :wink:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: dom on 30 June 2010, 18:59
Absolutely nothing to gain from a 1.4, don't waste your time or money.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 19:00
another thing i wanted to ask is it possible to get 9j rears on?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 19:01
is there any other way to get power from it then?

pm'd you

He doesn't have 10 posts yet lol

Mattb23 - you need to 10 posts before you can read the PM from Toby

just noticed! (Y)

thanks gti wherry
maybe you could email me?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: avengedslayer on 30 June 2010, 19:12
Leave a 1.4 standard, no point, go for looks rather than power :), try getting the multi point injection 1.4 which can be a lil nippier! Oh and welcome BTW  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: tobybrennan on 30 June 2010, 19:24
is there any other way to get power from it then?

pm'd you

He doesn't have 10 posts yet lol

Mattb23 - you need to 10 posts before you can read the PM from Toby

just noticed! (Y)

thanks gti wherry
maybe you could email me?

added you on facebook
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 20:02
Leave a 1.4 standard, no point, go for looks rather than power :), try getting the multi point injection 1.4 which can be a lil nippier! Oh and welcome BTW  :smiley:
so go for a 16v?
and thanks  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 20:02
is there any other way to get power from it then?

pm'd you

He doesn't have 10 posts yet lol

Mattb23 - you need to 10 posts before you can read the PM from Toby

just noticed! (Y)

thanks gti wherry
maybe you could email me?

added you on facebook
im online now.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: LazyLunatic on 30 June 2010, 20:18
As everyone else said, no point at all in putting money into the engine. They dont do a 1.4 16v mk3 golf. Have a look at insurance for a 1.6 or 1.8, the performance isnt much more, but its more nonetheless and a few people on here got a 1.8 instead of a 1.4 as the insurance was the same.

if you get a 1.4 just be prepared to down shift on hills and live in the red line :D lol

best way is roll low and slow for your first year driving, then move on from there.

9J's fit on the back, im even fitting 15mm spacers for my 9J's, although my arches are rolled :)

just try and learn as much you can in your first year and you'll soon not be silly enough to think turbo'ing a 1.4 is sensible/feasible. dont worry i was exactly the same when i got my 1.4 :D
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 20:24
As everyone else said, no point at all in putting money into the engine. They dont do a 1.4 16v mk3 golf. Have a look at insurance for a 1.6 or 1.8, the performance isnt much more, but its more nonetheless and a few people on here got a 1.8 instead of a 1.4 as the insurance was the same.

if you get a 1.4 just be prepared to down shift on hills and live in the red line :D lol

best way is roll low and slow for your first year driving, then move on from there.

9J's fit on the back, im even fitting 15mm spacers for my 9J's, although my arches are rolled :)

just try and learn as much you can in your first year and you'll soon not be silly enough to think turbo'ing a 1.4 is sensible/feasible. dont worry i was exactly the same when i got my 1.4 :D
i would be living in the red line anyways  :grin:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: archie837 on 30 June 2010, 20:45
+1 for low and slow. In running a 1.4 - they go alright for what they are and it's dependant on the driver anyway. You'll still find you're quick on the road.

Turbos a no go - the internals wouldn't cope and would end up sh1tting themselves.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 30 June 2010, 20:50
+1 for low and slow. In running a 1.4 - they go alright for what they are and it's dependant on the driver anyway. You'll still find you're quick on the road.

Turbos a no go - the internals wouldn't cope and would end up sh1tting themselves.
low and slow it is then. got my own ideas for mods anyways  :tongue:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Jimp on 30 June 2010, 22:54
My Vento is a 1.4 and it gets on fine tbh. Not fast but it never struggles either. It's too low to go fast on roads around here anyway  :grin:
On the subject of turbos, yes it's possible and yes people have done it, but only in Polos/Lupos. I don't think anyone has ever bothered in a Golf since bigger and better engines are readily available.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: glamourgirllexus on 30 June 2010, 23:49
mine is a 1.4 and its taken me to get used o the decrease in power from my old car but its pretty good for fuel, in the last 4 days i done about 15 hours of driving and only put £180 in it (thats from iow to shrew to wales to shrew to ely to cambridge to ipswich to colchester to ipswich and back to iow again not including driving round town for a bit while i was home) and i still have fuel left, thats also driving foot to the floor for most that, and if im honest since getting the fuel filter and stuff changed its made a big difference to the speed its not so sluggish any more, but i agree with the hill comment,  :embarassed: its embarrasing when i pass every car and then get to a hill and forget to drop a gear lol!!
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Wayne on 30 June 2010, 23:53
Not worth it. Enjoy the fuel economy.

Yep spot on. :afro:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 01 July 2010, 15:17
what do people think of 17"s on here?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Wayne on 01 July 2010, 15:59
what do people think of 17"s on here?

I ran them all ok.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: dom on 01 July 2010, 16:02
Look good, but will ruin the ride a bit. 16's are the best compromise between looks and ride.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 01 July 2010, 16:21
Look good, but will ruin the ride a bit. 16's are the best compromise between looks and ride.

+ 1 i would get 16s also :afro:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 01 July 2010, 16:26
17" calibre vintage or 16" lenso bsx :undecided:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: luke on 01 July 2010, 16:28
17" calibre vintage or 16" lenso bsx :undecided:

or save money for insurance as you are only 18...
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: LazyLunatic on 01 July 2010, 18:00
17" calibre vintage or 16" lenso bsx :undecided:


neither, you can grab a set of vw rims for less than £100, rattle can refurb.

save your money for a faster car when your insurance goes down.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Dan_GTi8v on 01 July 2010, 18:21
what I dont get is you say you cant have a GTi because of insurance, but by the sounds of it your 1.4 is gonna cost more to insure than a vr6!
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 01 July 2010, 18:41
not if i dont declare the mods  :smiley:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: LazyLunatic on 01 July 2010, 18:47
not if i dont declare the mods  :smiley:

dont go saying that on here, you have opened a can of whoop ass and your not allowed any! :D

not a clever idea doing that bud, you got to declare it all.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: luke on 01 July 2010, 18:48
not if i dont declare the mods  :smiley:
then frankly, you are a twit if you don't insured every mod on your car otherwise if you have a smash (showing off most likely), they will check the car and even if you have 1 mod that's not declared they will void your insurance..
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 01 July 2010, 18:49
thats a no no then.  :sad: looks like it will be stock for a while then.
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Rmachines on 01 July 2010, 18:50
There is a turbo kit for the 1.4 AEX engine,  its a German site i forget what its called but its for the Polo 6N engine (same engine)

Stock internals will run low boost with different pistons or stacked gaskets but the AEX engine on turbo boost needs to be revved quite hard (usually raise the limit too as its a low revving engine)  the turbo tends to use the bottom end torque of the AEX engine and then boost above it so it pulls hard to the red line,  but due to that the stock bottom end etc.. wont thank you as they don't like heavy revving and under heavy boost it really wouldn't like it,  also all the fuel system would need changing/customising,  Your talking thousands for the kit and engine rebuild.

Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: Rmachines on 01 July 2010, 18:55
http://www.rothe-motorsport.de/marken/vw/vw_polo_6n1_1-4l_2V.html (http://www.rothe-motorsport.de/marken/vw/vw_polo_6n1_1-4l_2V.html)

thats the kit you want,  DO IT!  :grin:
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: mattb23 on 01 July 2010, 19:29
also wanted to know can you get pop out rear windows?
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: tobybrennan on 01 July 2010, 20:27
also wanted to know can you get pop out rear windows?

declaring stuff like alloys will cost you like £25 not a lot at all
Title: Re: mk3 1.4
Post by: glamourgirllexus on 03 July 2010, 00:22
wait til your second year before u do anything crazy to you car, mine is up for renewal end of this month an has gone down by more than 800 quid thats declaring all mods i am going to do and the fact its parked on a pier next to a pub....also from 3rd party to fully comp
Title: same situation
Post by: MK3ModdA on 04 July 2010, 19:29
right guys im in the same situation,
18 years old own a 1.4cl, and im doing up the whole interior then the exterior and gonna finish with the enigne and in a few years considering putting in a new engine,
is that a reasonably good idea?  :smiley:
Title: Re: same situation
Post by: Wayne on 04 July 2010, 19:39
right guys im in the same situation,
18 years old own a 1.4cl, and im doing up the whole interior then the exterior and gonna finish with the enigne and in a few years considering putting in a new engine,
is that a reasonably good idea?  :smiley:

Nope not really as converting a non GTI to anything bigger is a lot more work.