Why not go the whole hog and get a 'GTI' badge...? :lipsrsealed:
Why not go the whole hog and get a 'GTI' badge...? :lipsrsealed:
I always used to think these were an optional extra on the GTD but there not are they?No they are not available for the GTD , the vancoovers are much better IMO , so is the diesel hahahaha :wink:
Vancouvers are OK but the Monzas sh!t all over them.Go away you fool!! The monza's are old hat Alan, need to move with the times mate?? :laugh:
Vancouvers are OK but the Monzas sh!t all over them.
Vancouvers are OK but the Monzas sh!t all over them.Go away you fool!! The monza's are old hat Alan, need to move with the times mate?? :laugh:
lol @ the GTD hatters :D :D
lol @ the GTD hatters :D :DI'm not a GTD hater, or a fake GTI hater. I just think Monzas are the ugliest wheels ever designed by mankind :lipsrsealed:
who said anything about French cars?
Monzas are horrible looking wheels... FACT!
who said anything about French cars?
Monzas are horrible looking wheels... FACT!
I am not French, I just enjoy their sun and their women!
Why not go the whole hog and get a 'GTI' badge...? :lipsrsealed:
I really like the silver gtd grill it matches the wheels and black inserts perfectly on my black car.
Don't forget the food and the wine :wink:
I don't really rate the Monzas either to be honest. Couldn't believe it when the lazy fookers at VW kept them for the Mk5.5. But at least they are shiny and not black.
By the way, 18" Monza Shadows only look good on a Tornado Red GTi.
They do look rather awful with the other colours. :laugh:
By the way, 18" Monza Shadows only look good on a Tornado Red GTi.No dont agree, ive had both a tornado red GTI with monza shadows and a white GTI with monza shadows and the white looks a lot better with them! :tongue: :tongue:
They do look rather awful with the other colours. :laugh:
By the way, 18" Monza Shadows only look good on a Tornado Red GTi.No dont agree, ive had both a tornado red GTI with monza shadows and a white GTI with monza shadows and the white looks a lot better with them! :tongue: :tongue:
They do look rather awful with the other colours. :laugh:
That is because they take your eye off the 'white goods' effect!
Pity it takes a wheel to set off a colour. :laugh:
Yeah, it's the black gunge I don't like. The standard 17" Monzas aren't that bad... :smiley:
Looks much better than the Vancouvers, but still strikes me as "wannabe GTI" :evil:
If I wanted a gti I would of bought one!Yeah, it's the black gunge I don't like. The standard 17" Monzas aren't that bad... :smiley:
I saw a Mk5 GTI on 18 inch Monzas and they looked no where near as nice as the Mk6 design with the black inserts. Grey inserts just looked dull IMHO :tongue:
I'm still going to stick my 4 pen'orth in. Every person (and I mean everybody) who has ever commented on my car has said how much they love the Monzas. Now, I've said before I like lots of other wheels but I still think they're iconic alloys i.e. they are the Golf GTi and there's nothing else like them.
Every time I clean mine I think they look fantastic. So as Frog says each to one's taste.
The GTD by the way looks very nice with them on but I agree with the comment that it's a wannabee GTi.
:laugh:What you laughing at? :laugh:
Each to their own Steve30, I too had a little chuckle at your post though, better than a GTI, priceless! :grin:
:laugh:What you laughing at? :laugh:
Each to their own Steve30, I too had a little chuckle at your post though, better than a GTI, priceless! :grin:
Gossa , go and test drive one mate, and get back to me!! :smug:
Each to their own Steve30, I too had a little chuckle at your post though, better than a GTI, priceless! :grin:
Gossa , go and test drive one mate, and get back to me!! :smug:
I've driven one as a mate of mine has one on order as a company car, it's a really lovely car for a diesel but it aint no GTI.......
I really have to back up Steve30 here.:wink:+1
No, I have never driven a GTI, I do have a GTD (though I`m not driving my OWN GTD at the mo :sad:),
And I have to say, it really is amazing !
Blasting down the A55 in Wales on Monday was fantastic, and the sound from the engine was totally different to the Passat diesel I got rid of.
Fair do's Gossa, but I have driven the car now alomost done 200 miles , on the MW it comes into its own mate!! :wink:Each to their own Steve30, I too had a little chuckle at your post though, better than a GTI, priceless! :grin:
Gossa , go and test drive one mate, and get back to me!! :smug:
I've driven one as a mate of mine has one on order as a company car, it's a really lovely car for a diesel but it aint no GTI.......
:laugh:What you laughing at? :laugh:
what makes the GTD better than the GTI? we already know its faster :grin:
I am denfending the car to the max, ready for anything you throw at me!! :laugh: :rolleyes:what makes the GTD better than the GTI? we already know its faster :grin::laugh:What you laughing at? :laugh:
I am denfending the car to the max, ready for anything you throw at me!! :laugh: :rolleyes:what makes the GTD better than the GTI? we already know its faster :grin::laugh:What you laughing at? :laugh:
Steve, i've driven my GTI 12500 miles mate and can tell you on any roads it rules. Are you referring to motorways with MW? If so that's exactly where the GTD will shine and it is a great great car for what it is. My mate getting one is a rep so it's perfect.
AND you are right, in some areas the GTD WILL be better than a GTI, for you it is and that's all that matters.
I've been reading a lot of this stuff (crap!!) about GTI against GTD. I part ex'd my Ed30 against a second hand GTD (would never buy new - crazy prices) approx 6 weeks ago. The change was right for me because I needed to slow down(!!) and have a car which is better for long journeys (in-laws live in France and I'm in Scotland).
Anyway, to the point. A GTD is NOT a GTI or even close, neither in outright performance or in handling. The very nature of the diesel dictates that it can't match a GTI in initial acceleration. Yes, once on the move it can accelerate quite rapidly, but by then, if from a standing start the GTI will be long gone. A MK5 GTI left me for dead last night and while initially I tried to keep up, I soon realised it was pointless, plus I was leaving such a large amount of black smoke in my wake, somebody probably called out the Fire Brigade!!
Handling wise, it is also lacking. The extra weight up front means it will understeer a lot earlier than the GTI and I know this just from the way I could attack roundabouts and corners in the Ed, which I can't do the same with the GTD. Even a mapped GTD may be quicker, but it will have the same problems in the corners.
Don't think I am slagging the GTD off as a crap car, because it isn't. The inside is a much nicer place to be than the Ed30. It will easily do over 50mpg and travel approx 200 miles further on a tank than the Ed could manage. Cheaper tax, insurance etc.
However, those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI - fact. Be happy with your choice, you have bought a great car, you don't need to defend your decision if it was right for you.
I've been reading a lot of this stuff (crap!!) about GTI against GTD. I part ex'd my Ed30 against a second hand GTD (would never buy new - crazy prices) approx 6 weeks ago. The change was right for me because I needed to slow down(!!) and have a car which is better for long journeys (in-laws live in France and I'm in Scotland).Fair play Tonka, Yes the ED30 is pin sharp your right there must agree and is a great car. But I have to say The GTD is better place to be!! :smug:
Anyway, to the point. A GTD is NOT a GTI or even close, neither in outright performance or in handling. The very nature of the diesel dictates that it can't match a GTI in initial acceleration. Yes, once on the move it can accelerate quite rapidly, but by then, if from a standing start the GTI will be long gone. A MK5 GTI left me for dead last night and while initially I tried to keep up, I soon realised it was pointless, plus I was leaving such a large amount of black smoke in my wake, somebody probably called out the Fire Brigade!!
Handling wise, it is also lacking. The extra weight up front means it will understeer a lot earlier than the GTI and I know this just from the way I could attack roundabouts and corners in the Ed, which I can't do the same with the GTD. Even a mapped GTD may be quicker, but it will have the same problems in the corners.
Don't think I am slagging the GTD off as a crap car, because it isn't. The inside is a much nicer place to be than the Ed30. It will easily do over 50mpg and travel approx 200 miles further on a tank than the Ed could manage. Cheaper tax, insurance etc.
However, those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI - fact. Be happy with your choice, you have bought a great car, you don't need to defend your decision if it was right for you.
I've been reading a lot of this stuff (crap!!) about GTI against GTD. I part ex'd my Ed30 against a second hand GTD (would never buy new - crazy prices) approx 6 weeks ago. The change was right for me because I needed to slow down(!!) and have a car which is better for long journeys (in-laws live in France and I'm in Scotland).
Anyway, to the point. A GTD is NOT a GTI or even close, neither in outright performance or in handling. The very nature of the diesel dictates that it can't match a GTI in initial acceleration. Yes, once on the move it can accelerate quite rapidly, but by then, if from a standing start the GTI will be long gone. A MK5 GTI left me for dead last night and while initially I tried to keep up, I soon realised it was pointless, plus I was leaving such a large amount of black smoke in my wake, somebody probably called out the Fire Brigade!!
Handling wise, it is also lacking. The extra weight up front means it will understeer a lot earlier than the GTI and I know this just from the way I could attack roundabouts and corners in the Ed, which I can't do the same with the GTD. Even a mapped GTD may be quicker, but it will have the same problems in the corners.
Don't think I am slagging the GTD off as a crap car, because it isn't. The inside is a much nicer place to be than the Ed30. It will easily do over 50mpg and travel approx 200 miles further on a tank than the Ed could manage. Cheaper tax, insurance etc.
However, those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI - fact. Be happy with your choice, you have bought a great car, you don't need to defend your decision if it was right for you.
Lets face it if you like your GTD.. then you are simply going to love a remapped GTI!! nearly an extra 100bhp and a lighter car = win win :cool:
Lets face it if you like your GTD.. then you are simply going to love a remapped GTI!! nearly an extra 100bhp and a lighter car = win win :cool:
Don't you mean more than 100hp? GTD = 170, Revo'd GTI = 275...
I've been reading a lot of this stuff (crap!!) about GTI against GTD. I part ex'd my Ed30 against a second hand GTD (would never buy new - crazy prices) approx 6 weeks ago. The change was right for me because I needed to slow down(!!) and have a car which is better for long journeys (in-laws live in France and I'm in Scotland).
Anyway, to the point. A GTD is NOT a GTI or even close, neither in outright performance or in handling. The very nature of the diesel dictates that it can't match a GTI in initial acceleration. Yes, once on the move it can accelerate quite rapidly, but by then, if from a standing start the GTI will be long gone. A MK5 GTI left me for dead last night and while initially I tried to keep up, I soon realised it was pointless, plus I was leaving such a large amount of black smoke in my wake, somebody probably called out the Fire Brigade!!
Handling wise, it is also lacking. The extra weight up front means it will understeer a lot earlier than the GTI and I know this just from the way I could attack roundabouts and corners in the Ed, which I can't do the same with the GTD. Even a mapped GTD may be quicker, but it will have the same problems in the corners.
Don't think I am slagging the GTD off as a crap car, because it isn't. The inside is a much nicer place to be than the Ed30. It will easily do over 50mpg and travel approx 200 miles further on a tank than the Ed could manage. Cheaper tax, insurance etc.
However, those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI - fact. Be happy with your choice, you have bought a great car, you don't need to defend your decision if it was right for you.
Those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI.
Of course circumstances predict what you want to buy and what is beneficial, I dont think anyone doubts that. My mum probably thinks her corsa is the best out there for her, and my little sisters Ford Ka is probably the best for her, it doesnt mean they are the best when you compare them to better cars just because they are right for them.
Of course circumstances predict what you want to buy and what is beneficial, I dont think anyone doubts that. My mum probably thinks her corsa is the best out there for her, and my little sisters Ford Ka is probably the best for her, it doesnt mean they are the best when you compare them to better cars just because they are right for them.
You sound like philosopher now Kev :smug: :laugh:
Its getting intresting on here now, but I have to say the GTD is a hot hatch, and so is the GTI 2 brilliant cars. I have fell in love the GTD and it does sute my needs perfectly. Yes its not as pin sharp as the GTI but i do think we are splitting hairs between the 2 cars. The GTD is fast and i'm saying its faster than what VW are saying!! :cool:
.......................at the end of the day he bought the Audi Bluemotion (with R sport looks) now where is the fun in that.... :sick:
I think the whole thing is dead simple. They're both great cars but it's simply a head versus heart argument. Head says GTD heart says GTi.
After years of going with my head and driving diesels I decided to go with the heart and got the GTi. I know it's costing me more money but every morning when I get in it and I get that "tingle" of excitement at driving it I know I've made the right decision.
I cannot imagine getting that from a GTD!!!!
.......................at the end of the day he bought the Audi Bluemotion (with R sport looks) now where is the fun in that.... :sick:
Woops!
Your brother = GTD buyers, but worse! :rolleyes:
I get such a buzz from my GTI. I've driven loads of diesel cars and they just don't compete, great cars but nowhere near as good as a petrol car.
Gizzy
Petrol = wineYour right alot of GTI owners seem to wine. Or should i say like to do alot of whinging :evil:
Diesel = vinegar
Petrol = wineYour right alot of GTI owners seem to wine. Or should i say GTD OWNERS like to do alot of whinging :evil:
Diesel = vinegar
Oi Kev!Those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI.
^^^^ You've been superceded... :tongue:
It's an excellent warm hatch, with excellent running costs, but diesel is (and always will be) a compromise.
Give it another 5-10 years though and this thread might be irrelevant....
Oi Kev!Those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI.
^^^^ You've been superceded... :tongue:
It's an excellent warm hatch, with excellent running costs, but diesel is (and always will be) a compromise.
Give it another 5-10 years though and this thread might be irrelevant....
Nooooo, how could you not quote me in your sig, that got me deep right there mate :cry:
I was told today by VW that they are going to phase out petrol engines in the 10-15 years?? Hybrid's & diesel, are going to take over ?? :evil:Oi Kev!Those of you that have bought a GTD and are trying to defend it as a GTI equivalent are kidding yourselves. It is not and never will be a GTI.
^^^^ You've been superceded... :tongue:
It's an excellent warm hatch, with excellent running costs, but diesel is (and always will be) a compromise.
Give it another 5-10 years though and this thread might be irrelevant....
Nooooo, how could you not quote me in your sig, that got me deep right there mate :cry:
Wouldn't worry, i'm sure there will be another GTD thread that'll give me a gem soon. :laugh:
It will be like hell on earth :D
If I could afford to, I'd buy a 500hp Porsche Turbo now and keep it in storage for 15 years, then get it out and blast around making a racket while everyone else is pootling around in dandelion-juice-powered invalid carriages :laugh:
It will be like hell on earth :D
If I could afford to, I'd buy a 500hp Porsche Turbo now and keep it in storage for 15 years, then get it out and blast around making a racket while everyone else is pootling around in dandelion-juice-powered invalid carriages :laugh: