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Title: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: kichiu on 04 August 2009, 10:08
Hi guys!

I need a cheap but really good tyres asap (think my front tyres are less 1.6mm!!!)? I been using the Toyo band tyres for a year now and they are really good but it wear down really quick!!! This will be my 5th and 6th pair this year!!!!!

I normally would buy some cheap band but this month I pay out on my Golf - £600 for a new air conditioning compressor
                                                                                                     - £60 for a new windscreen washer pump

Next month I will need to do my 60,000m servicing, which I don't know how much that going to be!?!?!?!

 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ifti on 04 August 2009, 13:20
Try the Falken 452's.
I stuck them on my car a few weeks back, and have been pretty impressed so far - very good for a budget tyre.
Several forum members have used them and they do come recommended.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ILoveTuna on 04 August 2009, 15:15
Try the Falken 452's.
I stuck them on my car a few weeks back, and have been pretty impressed so far - very good for a budget tyre.
Several forum members have used them and they do come recommended.

I had four of these a couple of months ago from tyre traders. Got 4 fitted for £300...

They are fine for the money, a little more road noise but grip great wet or dry.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ub7rm on 04 August 2009, 16:59
Another vote for the Falkens from me  :wink:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 18:10
I've got the falkens and am not impressed  :angry: any other suggestions needs to be reasonably grip but wear well, if theres such thing  :undecided:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ub7rm on 04 August 2009, 19:09
Rhyso didn't rate them at all either... I think its a mk4 tyre size thing? 

Wear is probably not brilliant (only had them about 7 months but they seem OK) but grip and handling is spot on.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 19:17
tyres are 225/40/18 although it shouldn't make much difference.
I had mine fitted after having Goodyear F1's on and the difference is like day and night, but the goodyears are too expensive for me. my fronts need changing soon, which would be my 3rd set since November  :cry:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ub7rm on 04 August 2009, 19:35
Thats the heavy oil's fault obviously  :grin:

I can see they are a bit of a comedown from the Goodyears.  For me they were a trade up from Dunlop Shytemaxxes so am happy with them.  Might give these Goodyears a shot next as everyone seems to rave about them.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Hurdy on 04 August 2009, 19:41
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's at £88 each from camskill. :cool:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 19:55
what do they wear like  :huh: I dont want something which is illegal after 10k, ideal 15k+ would be great that would bring me down to 2 sets front and rear a year  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ub7rm on 04 August 2009, 20:32
what do they wear like  :huh: I dont want something which is illegal after 10k, ideal 15k+ would be great that would bring me down to 2 sets front and rear a year  :lipsrsealed:

If wear is the issue try Michelin Primacy's.  Not the sportiest of tyre but still excellent grip in the wet as well as dry and I got 20k easily out of them on my mk4 1.8T.  Due to the torque and weight of the derv you might not do as well but probably better than anything else.

Being michelins they aint cheap though.  Standard GTI 16" were something in the region of £140 a corner IIRC.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Rhyso on 04 August 2009, 20:36
what do they wear like  :huh: I dont want something which is illegal after 10k, ideal 15k+ would be great that would bring me down to 2 sets front and rear a year  :lipsrsealed:

If wear is the issue try Michelin Primacy's.  Not the sportiest of tyre but still excellent grip in the wet as well as dry and I got 20k easily out of them on my mk4 1.8T.  Due to the torque and weight of the derv you might not do as well but probably better than anything else.

Being michelins they aint cheap though.  Standard GTI 16" were something in the region of £140 a corner IIRC.

i had Primacy's on my 16's - picked them up for £70 a corner though  :wink:  got 19K out of one pair!! and the performance far exceeded the Falkens.  Weird how the MK5's seem to perform ok and the MK4 doesn't  :undecided:

not sure if you can get them in 18's though  :undecided:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: JC on 04 August 2009, 20:43
mk5 on the cheap - love it  :grin:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 20:44
£140 a corner for 16's  :shocked: what would 18's be like  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Rhyso on 04 August 2009, 20:50
£140 a corner for 16's  :shocked: what would 18's be like  :lipsrsealed:

nah Steve! I paid £70 a corner for the Primcay's on my 16's
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 20:55
how long ago was that?? I was looking the other day and Goodyear F1's are now £140 fitted  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Rhyso on 04 August 2009, 20:57
how long ago was that?? I was looking the other day and Goodyear F1's are now £140 fitted  :lipsrsealed:

what site are you looking at??

Last set of Primcay's i bought was approx 18 months ago

Camskill do the F1 Assymetrics for £108 per corner - i've just looked now
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 21:03
just checked aswell, but then its postage and £15 a corner to fit
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Rhyso on 04 August 2009, 21:04
just checked aswell, but then its postage and £15 a corner to fit

i can get mine fitted for £10  :tongue:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 04 August 2009, 21:07
you live in the valleys  :tongue:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: ub7rm on 04 August 2009, 21:32
£140 a corner for 16's  :shocked: what would 18's be like  :lipsrsealed:

nah Steve! I paid £70 a corner for the Primcay's on my 16's

 :shocked: I was shafted  :sad:

At the time I don't think I paid too far over the odds though... If you have a Costco membership they only stock Michelins are about as cheap as you can get.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Hurdy on 04 August 2009, 22:55
what do they wear like  :huh: I dont want something which is illegal after 10k, ideal 15k+ would be great that would bring me down to 2 sets front and rear a year  :lipsrsealed:

Can't really say for sure. They still have over 6mm left on the fronts after about 4k miles, so I guess the fronts may go 12K. :smiley:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: kichiu on 04 August 2009, 23:01
what do they wear like  :huh: I dont want something which is illegal after 10k, ideal 15k+ would be great that would bring me down to 2 sets front and rear a year  :lipsrsealed:

My Toyo lasted me only 7k!!!!!

Also have any one use Kumho KU31? are they better than Falken???
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Emeye on 05 August 2009, 01:14
Not sure where you live, but check out www.event-tyres.co.uk (http://www.event-tyres.co.uk) they worked out the cheapest when I replaced the 17" Dunlops on my Gti last month and they come to you! I was very impressed. :)
I got about 13k miles out of my Dunlops and have been happy with them.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 05 August 2009, 08:37
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's at £88 each from camskill. :cool:
..........got these on mine & ''yes'' great price but in test's have come out a lot better than some of the most expensive tyres in test.Get my vote & also have a   :cool: tread pattern (sad i know) :wink: :grin:.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: bertmort8 on 05 August 2009, 12:58
avon coopers, i just had 2 fitted on the front for 70 quid each

they are not the avon budget tyre tho
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: AlanD on 05 August 2009, 14:01
If your trying to save money, dont do it on the tyres. It really isnt worth buying cheaper craper tyres. They are the only point of contact on the road, pay decent money and get proper ones and save money elsewhere.

My thoughts anyway.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Rhyso on 05 August 2009, 14:02
If your trying to save money, dont do it on the tyres. It really isnt worth buying cheaper craper tyres. They are the only point of contact on the road, pay decent money and get proper ones and save money elsewhere.

My thoughts anyway.

+1

won't be buying the Falkens again  :sad:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 05 August 2009, 17:11
If your trying to save money, dont do it on the tyres. It really isnt worth buying cheaper craper tyres. They are the only point of contact on the road, pay decent money and get proper ones and save money elsewhere.

My thoughts anyway.

But spending £1500 a year on tyres I cant do  :cry:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: AlanD on 05 August 2009, 18:54
To be fair Steve your a bit of a exception to the rule with your ludicrous 30k a year mileage. Most "normal" people do about half if not less than half of that so should really be buying premium tyres. My Eagle F1 GSDs saw 16k out of them (all be it the front two where horribly illegal when they came off, that was my bad :( )
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: R32UK on 05 August 2009, 19:05
i couldnt get through my sport maxx quick enough. use to wheels spin the shizzel out of them... still good for 17k :sad:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: DJGTi on 05 August 2009, 20:11
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's at £88 each from camskill. :cool:
..........got these on mine & ''yes'' great price but in test's have come out a lot better than some of the most expensive tyres in test.Get my vote & also have a   :cool: tread pattern (sad i know) :wink: :grin:.

Yes, a nice tread pattern, but is it true they are not sided, so the tread on the l/h wheels goes opposite to the r/h wheels? This would ruin the effect,surely.

I've replace my Bridgestones with Goodyear Assymetrics. The treadwear rating on the side is 240, compared with 140 on the Bridges. I'm hoping they will last nearly twice as long making them effectively cheaper than a budget tyre.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 06 August 2009, 08:34
Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's at £88 each from camskill. :cool:
..........got these on mine & ''yes'' great price but in test's have come out a lot better than some of the most expensive tyres in test.Get my vote & also have a   :cool: tread pattern (sad i know) :wink: :grin:.

Yes, a nice tread pattern, but is it true they are not sided, so the tread on the l/h wheels goes opposite to the r/h wheels? This would ruin the effect,surely.

I've replace my Bridgestones with Goodyear Assymetrics. The treadwear rating on the side is 240, compared with 140 on the Bridges. I'm hoping they will last nearly twice as long making them effectively cheaper than a budget tyre.
.........you'r correct about the tread it is opposite but this is how they have been designed & how they are ment to be fitted.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: RedRobin on 07 August 2009, 00:36

If your trying to save money, dont do it on the tyres. It really isnt worth buying cheaper craper tyres. They are the only point of contact on the road, pay decent money and get proper ones and save money elsewhere.


....I was going to post exactly the same. The area of contact is only the size of a CD on each tyre.

I currently run Goodyear F1 Assymetrics - Best tyre yet. I do about 20k a year and change pairs of tyres when close to 2 mm - Always move rears to front and fit new rubber on rear axle. Don't ask me what mileage I get from a tyre - I don't bother to record it.

:afro:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: AlanD on 07 August 2009, 08:48
I currently run Goodyear F1 Assymetrics

I was running the GSDs until last weekend when I got the Assymetrics put on, not had the chance to really test them as Im still running them in.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: RedRobin on 07 August 2009, 09:10
I currently run Goodyear F1 Assymetrics

I was running the GSDs until last weekend when I got the Assymetrics put on, not had the chance to really test them as Im still running them in.


....Hopefully you've got all 4 on Assyms - The ESP tends to hiccup when faced with a mixture of directional and assymetric tyres. I've had long conversations with Goodyear Technical about it (excellent support and totally opposite to Vredestein!). The tyre wall stiffnesses differ which then can fool the ESP system into thinking it needs to come to your aid. First time it happened to me it was in a very fast sweeping bend on a B-road and I thought my front brakes were snatching hard without being applied at all - Very scary!!

If you get the problem you'll just have to drive through it until you can buy the other 2 assym tyres. I had Goodyear F1 directionals mixed at first.

The F1 Assyms are great in both the dry and the wet but mine are aided by having a Quaife diff. I wouldn't run them any less than a fraction under 3mm tread.

:afro:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: AlanD on 07 August 2009, 09:13
Thanks for the heads up. I upgraded my wheels so got new rubber all round :D

I let my GSDs get to an embarrassing low level so its almost like having my old car back now that she can actually pull away without spinning lol
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Steve_PD on 07 August 2009, 13:34
I let my F1's run down to the marker  :rolleyes: and they still had more grip than the falkens do  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Rhyso on 07 August 2009, 13:36
I let my F1's run down to the marker  :rolleyes: and they still had more grip than the falkens do  :lipsrsealed:

thats not hard to believe either!
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 15 August 2009, 13:50
i couldnt get through my sport maxx quick enough. use to wheels spin the shizzel out of them... still good for 17k :sad:

Was that for all four?  I wore the pair of ShyteMaxxes on the front axle in 8k miles - and that was with SWMBO using it as her daily!
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 18 August 2009, 21:00
Max Power did a test that I skimmed in Asda.
Top brand new vs Budget new vs Top brand worn.

The worst (to the point of danger) were the top brand worn.
A budget replaced earlier rather than a premium brand replaced at 1.6mm might be a good idea for safety and the wallet.
Title: Re: Too many cost so now need cheap but good tyres
Post by: R32UK on 19 August 2009, 08:14
i couldnt get through my sport maxx quick enough. use to wheels spin the shizzel out of them... still good for 17k :sad:

Was that for all four?  I wore the pair of ShyteMaxxes on the front axle in 8k miles - and that was with SWMBO using it as her daily!

Swapped the backs to the fronts after 12k... still couldnt get through them. Most stubborn rubber ever!