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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: Grand Master Patch on 15 February 2009, 10:58
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Nick's been telling me about these uprated spark plugs,does anyone know where the thread is regarding them? I can't find it.
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Nick's been telling me about these uprated spark plugs,does anyone know where the thread is regarding them? I can't find it.
not sure if there was a thread as such :undecided: i know Nick has mentioned them and coilpacks at shows
only info i think we have is in the info section
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=87370.0
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There was a thread I think Vapour Mat started it
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Denso IK22 Iridium Power Spark Plug (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104460.0) :smiley:
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Denso IK22 Iridium Power Spark Plug (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104460.0) :smiley:
well found Steve
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Thanks :smiley:
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get some densos fitted makes a difference on a mapped car :afro:
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Denso IK22 Iridium Power Spark Plug (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104460.0) :smiley:
well found Steve
Doing your job for you now :rolleyes: :wink:
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Denso IK22 Iridium Power Spark Plug (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=104460.0) :smiley:
well found Steve
Doing your job for you now :rolleyes: :wink:
you won't get any thanks for it :laugh: :laugh: :wink:
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These arn't the plugs that Nick has advised,he gained a fair bit of power from the Nology silver tip spark plugs.
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These
http://store.newlevelmotorsports.com/nosisppl.html
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I had the silver tipped nology uprated plugs fitted to my car on Friday by Nick. As it was done as part of many other things, I can't make any comment on whether the make the blindest bit of difference, but Nick recommended them highly, so that's good enough for me :nerd:
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they don't list them for the 1.8T? Be interested to know what ones Nick recommends as I'm due for a new set with my next service anyways
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
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They sell them here
http://www.lkperformancestyling.co.uk/catalogue/nologysilversparkplugs/Make/VOLKSWAGEN/Model/Golf%20IV%20GTI.html
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yeah not doubting they are, he might have even used some for a diff model but I wouldn't have the knowledge to make that decision lol
Edit - nice find, bookmarked :wink:
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
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they don't list them for the 1.8T? Be interested to know what ones Nick recommends as I'm due for a new set with my next service anyways
i would recommend the iridium densos i have been using them in mine since fitting new coilpacks have had no probs and the car runs great :laugh:
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
It's what he told me,he gained 7bhp average on his rollers with them :shocked:
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Question:
Aren't Platinum or Iridium spark plugs the best?
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No. As a matter of fact, Platinum and Iridium are some of the worst metal conductors. The reason why Platinum and Iridium spark plugs are used is for longevity only. They can last up to 100,000 miles. If you are looking for longevity, they are for you. If you are looking for performance, choose silver.
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
It's what he told me,he gained 7bhp average on his rollers with them :shocked:
thats not to bad for that thats suprised me worth getting uprated plugs really :rolleyes:
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Question:
Aren't Platinum or Iridium spark plugs the best?
Answer:
No. As a matter of fact, Platinum and Iridium are some of the worst metal conductors. The reason why Platinum and Iridium spark plugs are used is for longevity only. They can last up to 100,000 miles. If you are looking for longevity, they are for you. If you are looking for performance, choose silver.
actually i agree there iirc i read up somewhere about different metals/materials used in making plugs (quite interesting actually) :laugh:
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I stole that from here
http://www.nology.com/plugidenti.html
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interesting info on there :afro:
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
The big question is, though, did he gain 7 bhp from these plugs, or did he rediscover 7 'lost' bhp from shot plugs???
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
The big question is, though, did he gain 7 bhp from these plugs, or did he rediscover 7 'lost' bhp from shot plugs???
I think it was more down to that :smiley:
Looking back at the pm he sent,i don't think he's running these on his car yet.
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I've had OEM plugs, denso iridium tough's and now bosch super 4's. If i'm honest i don't think there much in them, you always think/feel a slight improvemnet when putting new plug's in anyway but there definatly wasn't much differance. Saying that when my AGU with remap went on the rolling road it had the denso's in and achieved 199 (corrected to 193bhp) which i was pleased with as i had no other mod's. Wether or not that was the plug's rollers or just a good day i can't say though.
My opinion is the bosch plug's seem pretty good value for money so far. Can be had for £16 a set (got mine for £8) and reading up on bosch website seem to be well designed.
JMO Sam
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
The big question is, though, did he gain 7 bhp from these plugs, or did he rediscover 7 'lost' bhp from shot plugs???
mmmm probably :smiley: as a worn plug thats covered loads of miles and is in need of a change certainly wont have the performance of a brand new plug even if they are uprated
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They must be available,he gained 7bhp average on his AUM
is that true if so not bad from a set of plugs :shocked: :huh:
The big question is, though, did he gain 7 bhp from these plugs, or did he rediscover 7 'lost' bhp from shot plugs???
mmmm probably :smiley: as a worn plug thats covered loads of miles and is in need of a change certainly wont have the performance of a brand new plug even if they are uprated
Exactly. If the original plugs were new as well, then that would be a great gain. :)
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I have no idea when the plugs were last changed in my Golf, a good couple of years ago I should imagine! I may look into some of these soon, £12 each is a tad steep though.
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I have no idea when the plugs were last changed in my Golf, a good couple of years ago I should imagine! I may look into some of these soon, £12 each is a tad steep though.
not to bad :wink: i suppose its like anything well mostly you pay for what you get iirc my iridiums were about 40quid :evil: :grin:
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These arn't the plugs that Nick has advised,he gained a fair bit of power from the Nology silver tip spark plugs.
The nology silver and Bosch super 4s plugs are what we use at the moment. We have tested coil pack which made greater power over oem but the cost to have them produced was ott. Plus we have tested some new plugs from USA which use a capasitor technology in side the plug to produce a greater spark. When fitted to Bens AUM the smooths a inhertent flat spot out and gave another 7bhp avg over the Bosch plugs. I will get the graphs dug out. We need to find some time and play a bit more with these plugs and comapre them back to back.
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These arn't the plugs that Nick has advised,he gained a fair bit of power from the Nology silver tip spark plugs.
The nology silver and Bosch super 4s plugs are what we use at the moment. We have tested coil pack which made greater power over oem but the cost to have them produced was ott. Plus we have tested some new plugs from USA which use a capasitor technology in side the plug to produce a greater spark. When fitted to Bens AUM the smooths a inhertent flat spot out and gave another 7bhp avg over the Bosch plugs. I will get the graphs dug out. We need to find some time and play a bit more with these plugs and comapre them back to back.
This is very impressive,i assume that the plugs removed were in good condition? What plugs were they Nick?
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They are very good plug, we also had some good results on a few MK2s and a Mi16 on 45s carbs.
We want to find the time to do back to back runs with a few sets of brand new plugs.
http://www.pulstar.com We had 4 sets to play with one set we smashed up to see what was inside.
Nick
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nick how bout adding iridium densos? to compare with the other two :laugh: may have to change plugs over dependant on what you n ben evaluate from comparison?
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nick let me know how you get on with the plugs.
my car needs a service and i will get some of them if they are good.
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nick how bout adding iridium densos? to compare with the other two :laugh: may have to change plugs over dependant on what you n ben evaluate from comparison?
Not much yet,
Back to back with super4s they make a huge gain in performance which can be seen on the dyno overlay but not felt on the road.
Nick
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nick how bout adding iridium densos? to compare with the other two :laugh: may have to change plugs over dependant on what you n ben evaluate from comparison?
Not much yet,
Back to back with super4s they make a huge gain in performance which can be seen on the dyno overlay but not felt on the road.
Nick
cheers m8 :smiley: keep us posted :wink:
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Ran super 4's on my aum and it caused a slow turnover when cold ok when warm, gone back to std vw plugs now as recomended by jbs running 300bhp btw
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what u runnin to achieve 300bhp
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what u runnin to achieve 300bhp
LSD lol! In a FWD car? as over 280bhp is a waste surly!?
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=96106.msg806788#msg806788
spec is there
no need for a lsd map is tame a bit too tame for my liking want to change it to revo its CC atm
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=96106.msg806788#msg806788
spec is there
no need for a lsd map is tame a bit too tame for my liking want to change it to revo its CC atm
if your after changing your map boxxer1973 then i would give nick &ben at r-tech a ring alot of us have their maps on our cars and in my opinion their map is awesome and probably better than revo and cc as well as better priced have a word with nick mate :wink:
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^^^^ www.bigbhp.co.uk :cool:
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=96106.msg806788#msg806788
spec is there
no need for a lsd map is tame a bit too tame for my liking want to change it to revo its CC atm
Have a word with Jamie at CC he can taylor the remap to how you want it, with in reason and with in hardware working limits, The tameness could be down to turbo characteristics. I dont know what the compressor map of the JBS04 is like so I cannot comment on how the car could perform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressor_map
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Have a word with Jamie at CC he can taylor the remap to how you want it, with in reason and with in hardware working limits, The tameness could be down to turbo characteristics. I dont know what the compressor map of the JBS04 is like so I cannot comment on how the car could perform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressor_map
So I didn;t quite get what you were saying earlier about bosch super 4's? Do you rate them or prefer the other make you mentioned?
I'm happy with them personally, run's alright
Sam
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Have a word with Jamie at CC he can taylor the remap to how you want it, with in reason and with in hardware working limits, The tameness could be down to turbo characteristics. I dont know what the compressor map of the JBS04 is like so I cannot comment on how the car could perform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressor_map
So I didn;t quite get what you were saying earlier about bosch super 4's? Do you rate them or prefer the other make you mentioned?
I'm happy with them personally, run's alright
Sam
I do rate the super 4s, We have started to trial the nology silver plugs aswell which seem to be really good with high temps.
I have always used super 4s on my calibra turbo, and customs cars.
We have found that the pulsed plugs seem to be a lot better, but at 3 or 4 times the price. So for the money the Bosch 4s FTW!
Nick
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http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=96106.msg806788#msg806788
spec is there
no need for a lsd map is tame a bit too tame for my liking want to change it to revo its CC atm
Have a word with Jamie at CC he can taylor the remap to how you want it, with in reason and with in hardware working limits, The tameness could be down to turbo characteristics. I dont know what the compressor map of the JBS04 is like so I cannot comment on how the car could perform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressor_map
did 3 times told them it wasnt as aggresive as my revo stage 2 running ko3s and was told i had a numb bum lol.
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Nick,do you rate the Pulstar pulse plugs? I have some spare cash lying about and i'm in need of new plugs.
http://pulstarpulseplugs.com/
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These are the plug we have been testing with xspec, so far so good we have a new batch in to test over the next week or so.
Nick
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I'm looking forward to your opinions.
How much can you get supply a set for?
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I put the Nology Silvers in at the weekend :)
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I'm looking forward to your opinions.
How much can you get supply a set for?
The mans arm to twist is Grahams at xspec 01455 617991 07921 679120. :wink:
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Any news on the testing with the pulse plugs?
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Oh yer!!
They have been tested on Richards 1.8t Audi TT from Redline magazine,the tesing was carried out today at the Powerstation rolling road centre. I could not atttend the testing today :embarassed: but Graham went donw and spent a day with them. The results I have been told are very good :smug:. The plugs managed to produce a good power again on a strong 1.5bar APR 240bhp remapped 225bhp TT. Graham has got the Nippon cup over the week and so I am not going to speak to him until Monday morning but as soon as I get the results I will post them up.
Nick
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Have you had to chance to test any more of these plugs Nick? I knew i had forgot to ask you something the other day :tongue: