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Offline farmerpalmer

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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #10 on: 03 November 2008, 20:09 »
if you look under the lid on the snorkel attached to the bonnet, you will see a baffle, which is angled to reduce airflow, and most of the air bypasses this, and goes into the engine bay.
The carbonio does not have a baffle AFAIK, and therefore the flow of air is uninterrupted. This may not increase bhp, but it may improve responsiveness/ reduce lag. :evil:
The baffles can be carefully removed/alterred to improve airflow, and is much cheaper than a carbonio. :nerd:
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Do you know why this is?

I suspect it is angled to reduce the chance of significant amounts of water entering the engine, which would not be good news  :cry:
however, the air intake is fairly high on the bonnet, so should be fine unless you go thro deep water.
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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #11 on: 03 November 2008, 20:48 »
if you look under the lid on the snorkel attached to the bonnet, you will see a baffle, which is angled to reduce airflow, and most of the air bypasses this, and goes into the engine bay.
The carbonio does not have a baffle AFAIK, and therefore the flow of air is uninterrupted. This may not increase bhp, but it may improve responsiveness/ reduce lag. :evil:
The baffles can be carefully removed/alterred to improve airflow, and is much cheaper than a carbonio. :nerd:
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....Yes but it doesn't look as cool.

But discounting its appearance, the Carbonio (and it's cheaper identical unbadged versions) has a far bigger volume and is shaped much more specifically.

There may be a very minor increase to torque but there is a noticeable improvement in throttle response and its real benefit is when used with a performance exhaust such as Milltek and a remap.

The filter helps too. The stock panel filter looks like it's made from recycled newspaper. The Pipercross filter which comes with the Carbonio is much better but ITG filters are reckoned to be the best, but the most expensive.

If you want to see greater gains then you'll have to remove the engine cover and go for a fat python tube with a cone filter on the end.

There is always much heated debate about the pros and cons of various aftermarket air intakes.
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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #12 on: 03 November 2008, 21:14 »
Thanks RR, agree the carbonio looks great, but as a tight yorkshireman, i could not justify £££ on a carbonio., and i do not mind the oem look
I have no intention of remapping my ED30, as i am more than happy with the power etc.
I modified my air intake a few months ago, but kept the standard air filter, and noticed an slight increase in responsiveness.
Just last week i installed a pipercross panel filter -noticed an increased induction noise. hopefully increased noise= increased power  :undecided:
Its a shame no one makes a plastic version of carbonio - this would still look good, but be significantly cheaper.
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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #13 on: 03 November 2008, 21:24 »
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Yes, I agree, and so will Phil (Mcavity) - The Ed30 has plenty power as stock. If you have no intentions of performance modding yours, a Carbonio is wasted.
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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #14 on: 03 November 2008, 21:33 »
Thanks RR, agree the carbonio looks great, but as a tight yorkshireman, i could not justify £££ on a carbonio., and i do not mind the oem look
I have no intention of remapping my ED30, as i am more than happy with the power etc.
I modified my air intake a few months ago, but kept the standard air filter, and noticed an slight increase in responsiveness.
Just last week i installed a pipercross panel filter -noticed an increased induction noise. hopefully increased noise= increased power  :undecided:
Its a shame no one makes a plastic version of carbonio - this would still look good, but be significantly cheaper.


 Do a search on here under carbonio and you shall find an ebay seller who sells a carbonio copy(poss originals?) from the states @£70, I had one but dont reckon the do much.Greenouse found him.
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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #15 on: 03 November 2008, 23:39 »
I run this on mine and can safely say, yes it does appear to improve response in the mid range, but that's about it. It sounds a little better and looks really nice in the engine bay.
I'm actually moving onwards and upwards to the K04 Evoms set up shortly, so if someone wants to make me a sensible offer on a genuine Carbonio intake with an unused carbonio panel filter (pipercross??) let me know.  I could also supply a used BMC panel filter - about 6k miles but I'm guessing people wouldn't really want that!!!
If I appear to take a while to reply it's because I'm on occassional lurner here to see what you ed30 boys are up to lol, but I'm sure RedRobin will give me a nudge if anyone is really interested.

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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #16 on: 04 November 2008, 07:09 »
i was under the impression (from this very forum) that all sticky on carbon fibre bits made mk5s faster.

no, you probably mean those 10-dollar stickies, that you put around the engine bay to improve the performance of the parts that the stickers are put on.

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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #17 on: 04 November 2008, 07:47 »
if you look under the lid on the snorkel attached to the bonnet, you will see a baffle, which is angled to reduce airflow, and most of the air bypasses this, and goes into the engine bay.
The carbonio does not have a baffle AFAIK, and therefore the flow of air is uninterrupted. This may not increase bhp, but it may improve responsiveness/ reduce lag. :evil:
The baffles can be carefully removed/alterred to improve airflow, and is much cheaper than a carbonio. :nerd:
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....Yes but it doesn't look as cool.

But discounting its appearance, the Carbonio (and it's cheaper identical unbadged versions) has a far bigger volume and is shaped much more specifically.

There may be a very minor increase to torque but there is a noticeable improvement in throttle response and its real benefit is when used with a performance exhaust such as Milltek and a remap.

The filter helps too. The stock panel filter looks like it's made from recycled newspaper. The Pipercross filter which comes with the Carbonio is much better but ITG filters are reckoned to be the best, but the most expensive.

If you want to see greater gains then you'll have to remove the engine cover and go for a fat python tube with a cone filter on the end.

There is always much heated debate about the pros and cons of various aftermarket air intakes.

or you can buy carbon engine cover. Neuspeed produces these to go with their CAIs.

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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #18 on: 04 November 2008, 13:18 »
im looking into a new intake at the mo, seems like quite a cheap mod to get an extra 10bhp and a bit more torque, torn between dbilas and EVOMS one, both around £300 mark, dbilas looks better but like the heat sheild and an engien cover you can get with EVOMS, anyone know if i buy the dbilas will the evoms heatshield and engine cover fit?

thanks

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Re: So how does a Carbonio work?
« Reply #19 on: 04 November 2008, 13:20 »
im looking into a new intake at the mo, seems like quite a cheap mod to get an extra 10bhp and a bit more torque, torn between dbilas and EVOMS one, both around £300 mark, dbilas looks better but like the heat sheild and an engien cover you can get with EVOMS, anyone know if i buy the dbilas will the evoms heatshield and engine cover fit?

thanks

you won't get 10bhp from an induction kit.