DSG Help. Using it properly

[RedRobin]

ok reading the drivers handbook.....

with a gear engaged,take your foot from the brake and depress the accelerator

If you have to stop the vehicle on a gradient,always hold the vehical in position using the FOOT brake to stop it from rolling back

Well there it clearly states in the handbook, page 117 in the warning section.

Sorry but i shall be holding my foot on the pedal!!, and if T.T you see a DSG badge on a rear of a GTi,  then back off to avoid blindness! 

....Or to avoid being overcome by red mist!

I expect that someone will remind us about the 'handbrake law'. Did you know that, by law still existing, you can take a King Charles Spaniel wherever you wish - It's a law introduced by King Charles II decreeing that the breed may not be forbidden entrance to any public place including the Houses of Parliament.

I think the point of this thread is to establish what is and isn't good for the DSG box of tricks. Sorry, T_T, but I'm yet to be convinced on this one but am still trying to keep an open mind.

[MervMan]

yes, but doing that method, the car is still trying to eat the brake pads/discs, and doesnt do the brakes or handbrake anygood, you might aswell drive with your handbrake on!!!.
If your leaving it in D whilst the handbrake is ON on a hill, the engine and gearbox are now straining!!!!.If you have it in the handbook, then post it, this should be interesting....

Misunderstanding- I'm not holding the car with only the handbrake engaged. It's handbrake+foot-brake when on an incline, so that when I take my foot of the accelerator the car doesn't roll back as the clutch engages.

So I think we're doing the exact same thing.  I wasn't holding the car on an incline with only the handbrake while in drive-the car wouldn't like that!

[Saint Steve]

yes sorry merv man, it was just replying to Teutonic tamers reason to why you shouldnt hold your foot on the foot brake when you at a standstill without blinding the person behind you especially at night with your break lights.

[Top Cat]

Guys you are getting to separate issue's confused.
The question is when coming up to a set of lights how long should i leave it in D-mode for, if your going to be there a while IE its a big junction TT is advising that you put it in neutral. If you just pull up and they change to green  almost straight away then staying in drive its OK. If you are stationary for any length of time and leave it in drive then what you are doing is holding it on the biting point of the clutch.
What is getting everyone confused is TT commented on driving style as well. If you pull up at a set of light's and put it in neutral then you can pump the brake, dance on the brake, do anything you want to do with the brake or indeed the hand brake it has no relevance to the question or to the gear box.
Even if you leave it in D-mode when really you should have put it in neutral all you are doing is shortening the life of the clutch, by how much who knows.
When i drive a normal car i hold it on the clutch quite often at junction's its the same thing, you shouldn't but we all do.
I think TT's point is when you pull up at a set of lights in a normal car 99% of us knock it into neutral and either put the handbrake on or hold the foot brake or sometimes do neither if on level ground. But in a DSG and i know i am guilty of this we just hold it on the brake, i think its the mindset that i don't need to touch the gear stick because its automatic as well. 

[MervMan]

yes sorry merv man, it was just replying to Teutonic tamers reason to why you shouldnt hold your foot on the foot brake when you at a standstill without blinding the person behind you especially at night with your break lights.

Here in SA everyone (99.9%) holds the car with the footbrake and no one gets irritated with the lights. The ones that irritate are mostly BMW's with the rear foglights on- both sides of the car- BLINDING and can't see when the brake lights come on. At least VW put only one rear foglight on- half as blinding 

I had a look at the owners manual again, and nowhere does it say to shift the car into neutral if you are stopped in traffic.

It also says NEVER to put the car in N if the car is moving- with the engine on or the engine of.

[08micsta]

Here in SA everyone (99.9%) holds the car with the footbrake and no one gets irritated with the lights. The ones that irritate are mostly BMW's with the rear foglights on- both sides of the car- BLINDING and can't see when the brake lights come on. At least VW put only one rear foglight on- half as blinding   

He speaks the truth...  :embarassed:

I dont know a lot about the DSG box but in the Pajero which is Auto and Tiptronic my dad always just slips the car into neutral and holds the car there with the foot brake. Robot changes the pops the car back into drive and pulls off. Thats how I drive the Pajero too.

Mike

[neg]

I dont tend to shift into N at lights/traffic jams etc If I did at every oppurtunity then it would be a right pain - especially as to get it back in gear you then need to press the brake pedal again - seems to defeat the object to me.

Longer periods I will shift into N but this isnt very often - long period I'm talking over a minute realistically.

[neg]

10.  How much is the DSG service.? 

Shop around - difference was £40 when I asked. 

Service was cheaper at one dealer, DSG cheaper at another, so I asked the cheaper service dealer to price match the DSG  saved around £80 in total I think it was.