speeding - continued

[golfvr6]

the speed limts are coming down due to the fact that the government wants us out of our cars and people lack respect for motor vehicles! they step out in the road as if they have '' right of way'' which they dont!

dunno when you learned to drive mate, but anytime a person is on the road (with the exception of the mway) they have _instant_ right of way.

What a load of rubbish.
If someone is already crossing the road when you turn up, then they do have the right of way. If not then they don't.
Otherwise anyone could just walk out if they see you driving along.
Its called jaywalking.

[golfvr6]

Just to add.
Speeding isn't the main cause of accidents.
Its unfortunate that anyone dies on our roads, no-one wants that.
However most people that creep over the speed limit ie. 40 in a 30 (not in estates and near schools) ARE being prosecuted.
THIS DOES NOT CUT ROAD DEATHS.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA THE GOVERNMENT SPINS, ITS SIMPLY TO RAISE REVENUE.
Ask yourself the question, how many people have got SP30s? How did they get them?
Speeding at 50 up the high street or past schools? NO
THE GOVERNMENT DO NOT GIVE A sh!t ABOUT ROAD DEATHS.
If they did they would do more to educate people about dangerous driving.
How many people TAILGATE?
Answer - nearly bloody everyone
I would like to see more education rather than cutting speed limits.
Most speed limits ARE ONLY CUT TO CATCH OUT GENUINE PEOPLE.
ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY. ITS JUST DRESSED UP TO LOOK LIKE ITS TO CUT ROAD DEATHS.
DON'T BELIEVE IT FOR f**kS SAKE.

[turbo]

hi there

i did say they step out as if they have right of way.....
what i should have said they do it infront of you!
ie they dont wait for you to go passed they just step  out! and either expect you to stop or knock them over so they can phone claims direct! no win no fee people!

they dont seem to do it if you sound like your going fast! i would also like to mention that they also have an habit of standing at the edge of the road on the dubble yellow lines! old people and young parents seem to do this with their childerens pram!
they stand on the kerb with pram on the yellow lines!
or old biddies shopping trolley little back pull ones!

about the government they do want you out of your car! they put the tax up , petrol, and all of this is failling so whats next making driving hell by the use of speed cameras and low speedlimits visit

www.speedcam.co.uk

and on there you will see that since 1999 there has been a hell of alot of speed limits which have had there speed reduced by about 30 mph!

there no doubt that they want us out of our cars!
and on buses like they keep saying!

you may also like to read a police letter which was sent to the Association of British Drivers
 www.abd.org.uk

http://www.abd.org.uk/police_letter.htm


and 1 more thing i would like to mention
the police set up a gatso on a road which had a speed limit of 40mph!
thousands of people were being caught by this that they couldnt cope with the demand for the film!

so they upped the speed camera trigger device to 60mph!
so in fact this must mean that it is safe to do 60mph on that road! if it wasnt then why have they set the trip limit that high! also why didnt they up the speed limit to 50 or 60mph!
because they want to keep you down!
and make driving hell!

[turbo]

golfvr6 i dont know who you are refering to me or him as there is a quote from us both!

i'm not arguing! just making a point!
i dont want any arguing as it spoils the forum makes it look bad! it was also this type of topic which forced me to leave another gti forum! and ive found a good forum this one and up till yet ive had no arguments and i wouldnt like any....

yes if someone is in the road they do have certain right of way it all depends how close you are too them!
the people who i was refering to are the people who step out on top of you and then look at you like their in the right the same look other drivers give you if they cut you up! its like yes i ve cut you up but what are you doing there, its that type of stare!

[tinman]

I have two big gripes at the moment.

1. people who do not use the paths.

   i see mums and dads with pushchairs using the road??
   i see an old guy every day walking down our road rather than the path.

I went to a local meeting about proposed changes to our road and the Malden Road (our link road to the A3). All proposals got stepped on big time.

Interestingly enough, a local resident complained to the Police about cyclists using the pavements on the Malden Road. (These are pavements at least 10feet wide at parts).

The Police response - we are not going to ask cyclists to use that road as it is far too dangerous. We would prefer them on the pavement to be honest.

Which leads me to my next point:

2   Why do cyclists between Robin Hood and Coombe Lane on the A3 have to use the A3. It is a dark, fast, stretch of road, with an empty pavement which includes a cycle lane!!?

3   Why do oncoming motorcyclists claim my bit of road when they are overtaking?

tin

[golfvr6]

golfvr6 i dont know who you are refering to me or him as there is a quote from us both!

i'm not arguing! just making a point!
i dont want any arguing as it spoils the forum makes it look bad! it was also this type of topic which forced me to leave another gti forum! and ive found a good forum this one and up till yet ive had no arguments and i wouldnt like any....

yes if someone is in the road they do have certain right of way it all depends how close you are too them!
the people who i was refering to are the people who step out on top of you and then look at you like their in the right the same look other drivers give you if they cut you up! its like yes i ve cut you up but what are you doing there, its that type of stare!

Not you mate, i meant Overseer.
Pedestrians don't have an automatic right of way unless they are already on the road.
Otherwise people would just walk out in front of you and you would have to stop.
Like Guildford town centre  

[Overseer]

lol... so you don't stop?  

i was told that was the rule when i was learning (only 2.5 years ago.. )

[tinman]

A mate of mine once gave me a bit of advice about pedestrians and town centres.

Treat them like sheep. Apparently they get out of the way.

Tin

[turbo]

Aii they are sheep! 98% of uk population are

baa baa we want cameras baa baa
there like kids...............
all i seem to hear we want we want we want!!!!!!

well campaigners you having nothing.....................
its about time we had something.....like cheap petrol and no speedlimits!!!!!!!!! and of course jay walking cameras!

[Overseer]

dunno about the sheep thing mate..

here there's spot in the town centre where people are forever driving into pedestrians.