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[richy]

3500 deaths is nothing compared to 27 million motorists!!!!!

its down to people being brianwashed by government
officials!

That's a bit harsh, mate.  3500 deaths a year is a lot.  I know its only about 0.01% (1 ten-thousandth) of the total motorists, but its still too much.

If 1 in ten thousand people who got on a plane died a year, no-one would get on one.  (I bet someone will come up with a stat that says this many people do die on planes, but hey, I'm trying to make an analogy).

Killing someone by dangerous driving its not an accident.  I break the odd speed limit, but not when there's people about, or in built up areas.  If I killed someone when I was breaking a speed limit, or not watching what I was doing, i WOULD be guilty dangerous driving.

[Overseer]

^ yup agree with that

but theres many angles.. you can be driving dangerously without being over the limit, plus theres things like drunk/drug driving..

but accidents do happen.. its not ALL down to speeding drivers like these partnerships try yo make out.


there aren't many fixed cameras around here.

all the ones that are, are in stupid places.


for example, the main one here is on the entrance to town on a dual carriageway. its on a 50 limit after a set of lights at a large crossroads, most people can't even even get to 50 when they pull away from the lights.

the reason its there is because in about '94 a couple girls were killed when the car they were in shot through a over the junction shortly after it was changed from being a large roundabout to how it is now.

problem is.. the camera is in the wrong place to have prevented that accident anyways...

plus what happens is this.. when the lights aren't red, people fly through, hit the anchors to coast through at 50, then once clear put their foot down...

it acheives nothing, i'd be amazed if anyones been caught there in the last year or 2.

even more stupid, occasionally the turn the camera 180 degrees so it would actually catch people going intot he junction, not away from it. (still not the road the accident happened on..)... but the problem there is, unless its the middle of the night you'll have been stopped before then because of traffice queues.

the idiots i want caught are those low slammed honda's with all blacked out windows that go through the town centre at 50 if they see a sniff of another slightly modified or sporty car. plus drunk drivers, i can spot em a mile off when driving around at night, several times i have seen a car and said "that persons pissed" just before they have a near miss, or jump a light..

[tinman]

3500 deaths is nothing compared to 27 million motorists!!!!!

its down to people being brianwashed by government
officials!

That's a bit harsh, mate.  3500 deaths a year is a lot.  I know its only about 0.01% (1 ten-thousandth) of the total motorists, but its still too much.

but why dont we start to spend cash on things that would make a difference. something like 200,000 people a year die from cancer.

if we pump in ?1b into Road Saftey in a year, we should be pumping ?15b a year into cancer research.

to be honest, dying in a car crash doesn't scare me half as much as dying from cancer. whilst i've had very few friends die on the road - i've had plenty of family and friends taken early by cancer.

ah yes, i remember now. cancer is much more difficult to cure so we dont try very hard.

tin

[antgti]

plus you can't tax cancer victims!!!!!

[richy]

Good point... Well made.

3500 deaths is nothing compared to 27 million motorists!!!!!

its down to people being brianwashed by government
officials!

That's a bit harsh, mate.  3500 deaths a year is a lot.  I know its only about 0.01% (1 ten-thousandth) of the total motorists, but its still too much.

but why dont we start to spend cash on things that would make a difference. something like 200,000 people a year die from cancer.

if we pump in ?1b into Road Saftey in a year, we should be pumping ?15b a year into cancer research.

to be honest, dying in a car crash doesn't scare me half as much as dying from cancer. whilst i've had very few friends die on the road - i've had plenty of family and friends taken early by cancer.

ah yes, i remember now. cancer is much more difficult to cure so we dont try very hard.

tin

[turbo]

the speed limts are coming down due to the fact that the government wants us out of our cars and people lack respect for motor vehicles! they step out in the road as if they have '' right of way'' which they dont!

it doesnt help when people get behined the wheel and think there it and they can drive how they want!

this morning i had someone swerve infront of me on a roundabout and because i knew they would do this i kept back but i did keep flashing my lights at them and there responce is like whats the problem type of look or its your fault look they give you!

only the other day my mates said about fast road cam and brake pads they will stop making them or call them something else as there arnt any fast roads left!
  slow road brake pads slow road (town / city) camshafts

most crashes could be avoided if the manufactuers made abs standard since 1980's at least!
or if they made the braking systems better! only recently have they been doing this abs now starndard about bloody time!

at the end of the day the government doesnt give a s*** how many people die, millions die of aids no one says jack s*** millions die of cancer same again..... children have diseases or some type of gene error which kills them at early age ie no chance in life....

yet a few people get knocked over on the roads (due to there own fault unless the car mounted the pavement!) and there is uproar we want cameras etc etc...... its just bull!!!!

its sad but true the government doesnt care about you!
if you get cancer they wont fund the treatment!
this is there way of keeping the population down!

bse,aids cancer and all other nasty diseases they can 95% sure they can or have got the cure for them!
they can geneticly engineer viruses so they can make a virus to destroy a virus but they wont do that in time they might release the cure when an even deadly virus come to light!!!!!!!!

the speed limits are out of date! they need changing!

police want to clamp down on people running out and being stupid on roads they also want to clamp down on drivers who hog fast lanes, cut people up ,dont singnal, dont to the speed limit! (like 40-45 in a 60 zone) or 45 up the motorway!
but its too hard to do this they just drop the speed limit people know its too slow and do 40 -45 and get caught speeding!

if we got back to 1990 there wasnt this much hassle back then! why have everyone started to complain about speeding now!! reason is governemnt brainwashing and they think there ''doing good'' but there not!

take this for an example
2 kids are in hospital 1 is a rta victim lying there in a right mess broken ribs fractured skull etc.. jumped out in the road got knocked over he's 13 year old....

or 2 little lad who is on the verge of death because he has got cancer he's only 7 years old and there is no cure for him because the government is wasting money (millenium dome) which could help to save him!

which kid i would feel sorry for well personaly it would be no.2
as this isnt self inflicted he's done nothing to deserve this! where as no.1 its all his own fault even if the driver was speedling of which he may not have been he's ran in the road he should know better! may be when he's fully recovered he wont be so stupid to do it again! where as little lad no.2 well he's got no future! makes you think eh?

the government and speed campaigners want to take a trip in the cancer ward of a hospital! and get there act together!

speed kills they say its there utter dribble which is killing me!..... i know far worse things that kill and you dont have to go near cars to get them!

there just anti car they want strapping in a vr6! i'll show them that cars are fun

[richy]

If a ran over a pedestrian (unless they're on a zebra or pelican crossing) it would probably be their own fault.  They should watch what they're doing.  

... but seriously,  there are some idiots who just walk out and even when they see you they just keep walking slllloooooowly just to be a tw*t.  We should make it illegal to jaywalk.  That might have an effect.  

Rich.

(P.S. I don't mean to offend anyone who's lost a friend/relative in this way.)

[VeeDubGTI16v]

arent the braking distances based on like an old ford escort or something??
cars are better now and the limits should reflect this. and dont make a road a lower speed limit cos its got pedestrians around it, build them a bridge. simple.

[antgti]

yeah a few years ago top gear did a comparison on the original highway code braking distances.  I think they were done using a ford anglia back in the late sixties.  Performance cars far out break standard cars, eg compare a 911 to golf, nuff said

[Overseer]

the speed limts are coming down due to the fact that the government wants us out of our cars and people lack respect for motor vehicles! they step out in the road as if they have '' right of way'' which they dont!

dunno when you learned to drive mate, but anytime a person is on the road (with the exception of the mway) they have _instant_ right of way.