Hurdy i agree, totally different cars and thats why i fancy a hot hatch, more usable day to day and we are getting the Lotus

But theres always somebody who is either far to brand loyal and blinkered. Quotes like ive kept up with EVO's and Scoobies really let down the rest of the members IMO. The bottom line is if the poster did, the EVO driver wasn't trying, end of. You would have to change a hell of a lot on an ED30 to get it anywhere near a standard EVO FQ to be honest even with some serious mods it would struggle to even get close. As for a EVO260 struggling to keep up with a standard ED30 with DSG, no way. The EVO260 would easily beat the DSG ED30 off the lights and would maintain a healthy lead. And I dont think whatever mods you put on an ED30 (maybe if you installed 4wd!!!!) it would ever make 0-60 in less than 5.5secs and that would only be achievable in optimum conditions.
The ED30 along with other hot hatches is a good all rounder, better at doing the day to day things along with comfy mway driving and good for a blast.
What it isnt and never will be is an EVO FQ rival...... different market...
I am going to get an ED30 but I am realistic about my expectations of the car