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Offline JonnyG

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #20 on: 04 February 2008, 19:42 »
The ED30 is just a chip isn't it to get 300bhp, no new exhaust?

All the cars I listed offer practicality, its the driving experience I am after...

Yes, you can get around 300bhp with just a chip for around £500-£600.   There's a road test of a Superchps ED30 here -

http://www.superchips.co.uk/roadtest/VW%20Driver%20May07%20Golf%20GTI%20Edition30.PDF

If you are purely after the driving experience, the Megane may well be the best car for you,  certainly EVO magazine rate it very highly. 

However the Golf ED30 is undoubtedly the more complete all rounder, and is always the car that the group test drivers want to drive home after thrashing their hot hatchbacks around all day :laugh:   



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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #21 on: 04 February 2008, 20:07 »
Renault,

We have run several in our fleet of cars at work.

Forget build quality, these things are not made very well, if you can get a big discount (new Megane boasting better build just around the corner?)

One good thing going for the Megane, IT HAS A VOLVO ENGINE  :laugh:

Just my opinion (experience)

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #22 on: 04 February 2008, 20:16 »
Renault,

We have run several in our fleet of cars at work.

Forget build quality, these things are not made very well, if you can get a big discount (new Megane boasting better build just around the corner?)

One good thing going for the Megane, IT HAS A VOLVO ENGINE  :laugh:

Just my opinion (experience)
Dont Volvos have ford engines???

The best way to see if you can handle a Megane is to go look at a few used examples.... they are all so tatty!!

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #23 on: 04 February 2008, 20:22 »



VolvoS40/S50=Focus+ST=MeganeR26=Loose arse at resale time :cry:

Seriously, young girl in accounts has a 197 apart from cat failing after 2 months its been fine. :wink:

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #24 on: 04 February 2008, 20:57 »
i had a little tussle with megane f1 adimiting it was on fairly straight dual carrageway and i had slight edge untill we hit traffic,only had 1200miles on me clock aswell.
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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #25 on: 04 February 2008, 20:59 »
Chavan,

you'll have read about the overwhelming bias towards the Golf but if it's ultimate driving thrills you're after then the ED30 isn't the sharpest tool in the box. Don't get me wrong it is an extraordinarily accomplished car and without doubt the most rounded and desirable package of any (affordable) hot hatch currently on sale but there are better 'drivers' cars out there.

Personally I find that it's the chassis and brakes that let it down and I wouldn't consider any of the 300bhp chips for this car in its standard form. It's great at 8 or 9 tenths but ragged thereafter with pronounced lateral transitional 'lag' (it takes the roll bars, springs and dampers too long to contain the side to side weight) and the brakes are only adequate and don't inspire confidence with hard use.

The engine is fantastic and gets its power down well but it's at the limits of its adhesion in low gear corners and will spin up its inside wheel given an opportunity. Torque steer is very well contained though. Another 60bhp will only exacerbate this and I'd wager that the standard ED30 would drive away from a chipped one on a twisty country road simply because it would get its power down more easily.

The motoring press havn't gone mad over the Megane R26 for nothing and that trick diff gives it an advantage on give and take roads that the ED30 (or any other hatch) can't match. I drove a Megane F1 the other day and was astonished at its stability (finely judged damping) and direction changing ability (wide track and huge tyres). You do though have to put up with the uninspiring interior, van like driving position and questionable looks, although you did state that this won't bother you.

There is speculation that Renault will soon release a last hurrah Megane 'Ultimate' with more power and less weight, so that'll be worth looking out for.

Although you thought that the F1 felt quickest I think that it was subjective as performance figures show that a standard ED 30 will hit 100mph around 1.5 seconds faster than the 30kg heavier Megane, probably due to the 'real' power output advantage of the Golf.

Finally, if you can bide your time then the general consensus is that fast hatches will soon all be running high 200's horsepower mated to trick diffs, the advantage being lower weight and less complexity (read cost) than 4 wheel drive models but still with reasonable traction and great ground covering ability.

The next 12-18 months looks like being an exciting time.

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #26 on: 04 February 2008, 22:22 »
Personally I find that it's the chassis and brakes that let it down and I wouldn't consider any of the 300bhp chips for this car in its standard form. It's great at 8 or 9 tenths but ragged thereafter with pronounced lateral transitional 'lag' (it takes the roll bars, springs and dampers too long to contain the side to side weight) and the brakes are only adequate and don't inspire confidence with hard use.

The engine is fantastic and gets its power down well but it's at the limits of its adhesion in low gear corners and will spin up its inside wheel given an opportunity. Torque steer is very well contained though.

The motoring press havn't gone mad over the Megane R26 for nothing and that trick diff gives it an advantage on give and take roads that the ED30 (or any other hatch) can't match. I drove a Megane F1 the other day and was astonished at its stability (finely judged damping) and direction changing ability (wide track and huge tyres).

Finally, if you can bide your time then the general consensus is that fast hatches will soon all be running high 200's horsepower mated to trick diffs, the advantage being lower weight and less complexity (read cost) than 4 wheel drive models but still with reasonable traction and great ground covering ability.

....Though my experience is with the non-Ed30 GTI, I agree that upgrading the brakes and suspension make quite a difference to the standard car. However, I believe that the chassis is very good, and so do many others.

Interesting to read your comments about a "trick diff" - Spinning the inside wheel is usually the problem and I am seriously considering a Quaife ATB when my warranty runs out in the summer.
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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #27 on: 04 February 2008, 22:39 »
If you're not bothered about image then how about the new Subaru Impreza WRX STI!  I think its well ugly but it's got the performance that you crave.

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #28 on: 05 February 2008, 03:58 »
the Civic and Leon and I would consider them if they provided the performance, but they dont (for me)

Dont know how you could think the Leon Cupra fails to deliver performance when it runs the same spec engine turbo, intercooler etc as the Edition 30. Out the box the Leon Cupra is 10hp more powerful than the Ed30, and it remaps to the same as the Ed30. On top, it has the beefy brakes from the R32 as standard, which are not present on the Edition 30.

Perhaps you are confused with the 200bhp K03s Turbo'd Leon FR which is the Golf GTi engined Leon and the 240bhp K04 Turbo'd Leon Cupra which is the Edition 30 engined Leon.

And yes, the Leon Cupra will mince a Civic. Done it. :wink:

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Re: Need some honest reviews
« Reply #29 on: 05 February 2008, 09:07 »
the Civic and Leon and I would consider them if they provided the performance, but they dont (for me)

Dont know how you could think the Leon Cupra fails to deliver performance when it runs the same spec engine turbo, intercooler etc as the Edition 30. Out the box the Leon Cupra is 10hp more powerful than the Ed30, and it remaps to the same as the Ed30. On top, it has the beefy brakes from the R32 as standard, which are not present on the Edition 30.

Perhaps you are confused with the 200bhp K03s Turbo'd Leon FR which is the Golf GTi engined Leon and the 240bhp K04 Turbo'd Leon Cupra which is the Edition 30 engined Leon.

And yes, the Leon Cupra will mince a Civic. Done it. :wink:

Yes it was the Leon FR with 200bhp not the 240bhp, didnt know they did one, i had read sometime ago it was in the pipeline.  Just had a look at price and very good value as well, I am going to ring around some dealers to see if they have a demo car.  When i went to the dealer, he reckoned the FR was the most powerful Leon they did!!!!! idiot...  Thanks for that as it could be an option and with the same engine as the ed30 moding the car to 300bhp should be available via just a chip?

Had a Scoobie before and although not as raw as the Evo its still rough around the edges compared to all the cars I am looking at, thanks anyway....

I have now had some prices on a facelifted ST2 out in March and what I would save on that over the ED30 I could put towards the Lotus and get the 'R' rather than the 'S'....tempting i must admit as i did like the ST

Anyway thanks for all your thoughts, i have been very impressed with some of the very good view points of the ED30.  A great hot hatch no doubt about it...enjoy your motoring
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