Is the mk3 gti 8v slow?

[VeeDubGTI16v]

idiot how many metro 6R4's do you see on the road every day then?

[golfvr6]

I did actually ask how many cars a vr6 would piss on, the answer - most cars on the road today.
 

[Cupra Turbo]

idiot how many metro 6R4's do you see on the road every day then?

f**k off u retard, me and 6 were in chat laughing about this ... and here comes u storming in with ya size 12's thinking u own the place and getting it allll wrong.

I recommend u stay in the mk2 area where u belong.

[VeeDubGTI16v]

valid point though

think i will too many b!tches in here



oh and im a size ten

and i recommend you stop getting beaten by saxos

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back to my original point tho before you started b!tching how many 6r4's do you see every day and race off the lights? do you even know what one is?

[iball]

Lol, this is a quality thread! I don't see why all the mk2 people should stay in their own section, I quite often browse their section so think it's only fair they come in here! Anyway, don't a number of motoring magazines rate the Mk2 16v as the best Gti VW ever produced? May be wrong and I won't comment on this as I've never driven one.

Everyone in here loves their GTi's fair enough. The reason I bought mine was because I wanted a cheap car but not too old or with too many miles, not too expensive to insure, good build quality, reliability, comfortable interior, few toys and something with a little bit of poke.

The MK3 (I think) is the only car on the market that satisfies these criteria and for what I wanted it is a great car, and for less than ?3k it's fantastic value. Since getting the car I've averaged 36.6mpg which I'm bloody impressed with, but then I do drive like a grandad most of the time!!

Whether you own an 8v, 16v or VR6 they're all terrific value for money.

Anyway just my 2p.

PS A VTR is still quicker than an 8v!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cupra Turbo]

Mk3 Golf 8V '91-98

History/Spec

The all new Golf arrived in 1992, and was promptly christened 'Car of the Year' -- but not 'Hot Hatch of the Year'. That's because it was bigger, safer and heavier. Despite that blobby body being very slippery, with a drag factor between 0.30 and 0.33, it was seriously heavy. The original GTI weighed 844 kg, and the MK3 was up to 1032 kg. The power-to weight ratio had slipped from 133 bhp per ton to 113. That translated into a top speed of 124 mph and a sluggish 0-60 mph time of 8.7 seconds -surprising, as the new GTI had a larger 2.0-Jitre engine with Digifant multipoint electronic fuel injection system and regulated catalytic converter. With an enlarged bore and stroke at 82.5 mm and 92.8 mm respectively, the output rose to 115 bhp at 5400 rpm. At least it looked the part, with its color-coded two-bar grille, black wheel arches and bumper extension, rear spoiler, tinted rear light clusters, 6.5Jxl 5 in Long Beach alloys and twin exhaust pipes. Inside came sports seats, electric windows, on board computer and height-adjustable sports steering wheel. Handling-wise it was a lot softer and more refined. Basically, it was a modified Mk2 set-up with standard power steering. From September 1992 came split rear seats and, a year later, passenger seat height adjustment formed part of the package. October 1994 was safety month, as ABS brakes, driver's airbag and immobilizer were included -- but a sunroof became a cost option. July 1995 saw the arrival of rounded side indicators and a bee-sting aerial. May 1996 marked the 20th anniversary of the GTI, hence the 600 unit limited-edition Anniversary, with red alloys and traditional golf ball gear knob. King of the limited editions though was the Color Concept, in April 1995, available in yellow, red, blue or green, with matching leather Recaros, silver-faced instruments and 6.5 in Solitude alloys. Eight-valve deleted in November 1997.

[Overseer]

VW Golf mk3 16v '93-'98

Two years after the 2.0-litre 8-valve GTi failed to impress anyone greatly, Volkswagen decided that what the world needed was another 16-valve version, which was launched in January 1993. Beneath the familiar 16-valve head was the 2.0-litre unit, which produced 150 bhp at 6000 rpm and was quite different from the units fitted to the Corrado and Passat. New valves and revised breathing were intended to provide extra power and low-down torque. Acceleration improved, which meant that 60 mph arrived in around eight seconds. Top speed was a useful 134 mph. The five-speed gearbox was a carry over from the GTi, as was the suspension - unfortunately. So it was secure, safe, but a bit roly-poly, and still not enough fun. Interestingly, it came with the traction control system. As used on the VR6, which meant that it worked with the ABS system to eliminate torque steer (weaving as you bury the throttle) by monitoring the speed of the driving wheels. Standard specification was pretty much as the 8-valve, plus 6.5jx15 in Monte Carlo alloy wheels with 205/5OR-15V tyres, but still a space saver in the boot, bee-sting aerial with amplifier, plus a brake lining wear indicator, September 1993 heralded the arrival of passenger seat height adjustment, as the five-door model got rear electric windows. For October 1994, a driver's airbag and engine immobiliser were fitted. July 1995 saw the arrival of those neat rounded wing-mounted indicators. May 1996 - the GTi's 20th anniversary year - saw the launch of the limited-edition Anniversary. Just 150 were imported in three and five-door body styles, at a cost of ?16,995 and ?17,425, respectively. They had alloy wheels, which were painted red, plus the traditional and long-missed Golf ball gearknob. When it came to the interior trim, that was Sportsline' - slightly chequered flag in design - with red bumper stripes and GTi badging. Discontinued in November 1997. VW correct their 8v mistake with this 16v

[golfvr6]

I think everyone with a 8v gti should remove the badge and replace it with GL or should that be CL
 

[Cupra Turbo]

overseer is funny .. ho ho ho.

vr6 - is cocky as per usual ...  

[Bodhi]

God, whats wrong with some people, why must you call me a spanner? Just because i'm using the proper meaning, not a derived one. Why dont you grow up.

I think you'll find both parties are using the proper meaning. I'm just using the proper meaning in English, and you're using the peoper meaning in Italian. Wonderful these different languages aren't they.


anyway what I think you have to remember with the Mk3 is that the market had changed in the last couple of years of the Mk2. The hot hatch market had all but dissapeared, joyriders and the associated insurance premiums had priced most people out of the hot-hatch market. The focus became more on comfort than outright performance. In fact, apart from the Clio Williams, please name me another classic hot-hatch to come out of the same era from the Mk3 GTi (both variants - I don't consider the VR6 to be a hot-hatch - it certainly doesn't handle like one. It handles more like a Quattro Audi - understeer, understeer and yet more understeer).  The 306 was a great car, but was never likely to produce  a classic hot hatch like the 205 GTi 1.9 or Mk2 16v. The GTi-6 was nice, but still suffered from that "wonderful" french hatch nervousness (they were the last country in the world to realise trailing arm rear suspension = teh bad), which meant you really couldn't give it the same level of commitment through a corner as the VW's.

I'd also like to make an addition to Black_GTI's list of cars that could hump a VR6


- Any current six-cylinder BMW 3-series. And a few 5's aswell.

Oh, and to keep golfvr6 happy

-The Audi S4. But Audis aren't real performance cars so they don't really count.