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Offline illyun

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #20 on: 15 September 2007, 15:44 »
Ve hav vayz of making you torque

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Manual is best :wink:

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #21 on: 15 September 2007, 15:47 »
Maybe I should stick with Revo for now...

I am right in thinking that if the torque is the same, the extra 30hp won't make that much difference as its not being translated to force at the wheel?

The extra bhp will translate more to top speed increase rather than in gear times if the torque doesn't increase much between the 300bhp and the 330bhp mods.

The torque remains the same at 350nm for the Oettinger upgrade - pointless then, unless you are in Germany on the Autobahn and want to drive faster than 150mph and even then I would want to be going 150mph+ in a Golf  :shocked:
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #22 on: 15 September 2007, 16:55 »
http://www.hgp-turbo.de/ - they do an upgrade for the dsg that raises the torque limit to 600nm  :evil:

One for post warranty mods methinks  :rolleyes:

On the HGP front page :

Golf V R32 Bi-Turbo - Leistung: 600PS, 720Nm
Auto Bild Sport sportscars Highspeed-Test Nardo 2006
Vmax 323,1km/h, 0-100km/h 4,0s

What a beast  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: 200 mph??
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #23 on: 15 September 2007, 17:23 »
http://www.hgp-turbo.de/ - they do an upgrade for the dsg that raises the torque limit to 600nm  :evil:

One for post warranty mods methinks  :rolleyes:

On the HGP front page :

Golf V R32 Bi-Turbo - Leistung: 600PS, 720Nm
Auto Bild Sport sportscars Highspeed-Test Nardo 2006
Vmax 323,1km/h, 0-100km/h 4,0s

What a beast  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: 200 mph??

lol... I got really confused there... I saw your sig and thought 'why have you got Hurdy's sig and his car under your post'.... didn't realise you also have a stunning silver GTI  :cool: 
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #24 on: 15 September 2007, 17:33 »
Thanks illyun  :cool:
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #25 on: 15 September 2007, 19:18 »
Yup, thanks Illyun :cool:
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #26 on: 17 September 2007, 10:53 »
Google does - ish. Bit "bonnet de douche" "duck ala orange" but better than nothing.. . ;)

Hello together!
I saw today the interesting entries about GTi edition 30 with Oettinger Tuning. In order to make it short, the gulf in the “good travel” (EN-AI 47) is my car.
In order to create here times a few facts:
1. The engine is from the AUDI S3, however factory-installed with a smaller LLK was provided.
2. The engine has hardly thing in common with series the TFSi, since it is completely strengthened, is had forging pistons and the compression different.

Hmm, I really don't know where this myth is coming from.  The Ed30 does not have the S3 engine.

3. In series my GTI had already 250 HP on the Rollenprüfstand.

I doubt that - VERY MUCH.  He is stating 250HP on a rolling road.  As the Ed30 engine has a claimed 230PS (about 225bhp) at the flywheel, transmission losses would give a wheel horsepower (the HP figure he is claiming  :nerd:) of around 180-190 HP - maximum.  If he is claiming a "corrected" power output, then that figure should be quoted as "brake horsepower" or BHP.  Even then, 250 BHP sounds a little "head in clouds" !!! :rolleyes:

4. After the re-equipment of Oettinger 340 HP were measured. With this achievement the car runs however merciless into the speed limiter.

Again, some incorrect figures.  Furthermore, the Golf does not have a speed limiter.  :nerd:

The standard LLK is at its power limit. Load air becomes too warm and the engine regulates down. In any case large LLk take.

A small intercooler does NOT limit power (unless it is internally restrictive and not free-flowing).  A small intercooler will merely be more suseptable to "heat soak", and the power will drop off more noticeably than a correctly specified larger version.

By LLK must be talking about intercooler.

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #27 on: 17 September 2007, 10:55 »
It's basically saying, it will eat M3's for breakfast but watch how much you gun it because the intercooler isn't as good as the one on the S3.

Why do you need to be careful of giving it the beans?  :huh:

An undersized intercooler won't cause any engine damage!
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #28 on: 17 September 2007, 10:58 »
fcuk, i thought mine was quick,  :cry:

what power would you get from a Forge Mk5 Golf 2.0T TWINtercooler, seen it on awesome-gti.co.uk

You will get exactly ZERO increase in power.

What you will get though, is a considerable improvement in "drop off", caused by heat soak, when giving it the beans in low road speed and high engine speeds - such as a series of hairpin bends, and particularly in very hot weather.
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #29 on: 17 September 2007, 11:03 »
It's basically saying, it will eat M3's for breakfast but watch how much you gun it because the intercooler isn't as good as the one on the S3.

Why do you need to be careful of giving it the beans?  :huh:

An undersized intercooler won't cause any engine damage!

b*ggered if i know i was just translating :grin: bloody germans.