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Offline Lagerlout

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Oettinger mods for Ed30
« on: 14 September 2007, 14:39 »
http://www.tuningnews.net/article.php?date=070511a

Couple of questions, anyone here done any of the stages? What's it like??

Are the prices correct?

Does this apply to DSG or should we be talking manual here?

I fancy a Stage 2 if I order this new Ed30.. might just eat my 996..  :grin:

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #1 on: 14 September 2007, 14:48 »
There is a guy on a German GTI forum who has Stage 2.
He is let's say very happy with it. It goes very fast indeed, he has manual. He had M3 for lunch in his Ottinger GTI.


Hallo Zusammen!
Ich habe heute die interessanten Einträge zum Thema GTi Edition 30 mit Oettinger Tuning gesehen. Um es kurz zu machen, der Golf in der "Guten Fahrt" ( EN-AI 47) ist mein Auto.
Um hier mal ein paar Fakten zu schaffen:
1. Der Motor ist vom Audi S3, wurde aber werksseitig mit einem kleineren LLK versehen.
2. Der Motor hat kaum Gemeinsamkeiten mit dem Serien TFSi, da er komplett verstärkt ist, über Schmiedekolben verfügt und die Verdichtung anders ist.
3. Serienmässig hatte mein GTI bereits 250 PS auf dem Rollenprüfstand.
4. Nach der Umrüstung von Oettinger wurden 340 PS gemessen. Mit dieser Leistung läuft der Wagen allerdings gnadenlos in den Drehzahlbegrenzer. Die Leistung wurde zugunsten des Drehmoments ( 478NM!) etwas zurückgenommen. Mit lang übersetztem 6. Gang sind rechnerisch 300 Km/h machbar. Der Kostenaufwand steht aber in keinem Verhältnis zum Ergebnis.
5. Das Auto ist wunderbar fahrbar. Entgegen der Aussage der "Guten Fahrt" ist das Fahrwerk erste Sahne. Die "Gute Fahrt" sollte besser bei den Tests eines Sharan Family bleiben. Hie haben die Herrschaften sicher mehr Erfahrung. Man kann nun mal 330 PS nicht mit nem Touareg Fahrwerk kombinieren.
6. Der R32 ist ein tolles Auto. Solltet Ihr mir auf der Autobahn begegnen, spart Euch den Sprit. Lohnt nicht!! Die Begegnung mit einem M3 (343 PS) hat schon in Tränen geendet.
7. Ein Wort noch zur Höchstgeschwindigkeit: Sie hat um ca. 15 km/h zugenommen. Dann ist das Auto drehzahlmässig im roten Bereich und das muss nicht sein. Es macht viel mehr Spass wenn man sich von einem Drängler einfach "wegzoomt"
8. Ich würde diese Massnahme immer wieder machen lassen, habe jedoch bei einigen Tunern erfahren müssen, dass Sie ein Chiptuning für dieses Auto für Ausreichen halten. Hier ist Vorsicht geboten!!!! Der serienmässige LLK ist an seiner Leistungsgrenze. Die Ladeluft wird zu warm und der Motor regelt runter. Auf jeden Fall den grossen LLk nehmen. Alles andere Finger weg!! Ihr ärgert Euch nur.

Gruss


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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #2 on: 14 September 2007, 15:21 »
Anyone speak German?

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #3 on: 14 September 2007, 15:29 »
Google does - ish. Bit "bonnet de douche" "duck ala orange" but better than nothing.. . ;)

Hello together!
I saw today the interesting entries about GTi edition 30 with Oettinger Tuning. In order to make it short, the gulf in the “good travel” (EN-AI 47) is my car.
In order to create here times a few facts:
1. The engine is from the AUDI S3, however factory-installed with a smaller LLK was provided.
2. The engine has hardly thing in common with series the TFSi, since it is completely strengthened, is had forging pistons and the compression different.
3. In series my GTI had already 250 HP on the Rollenprüfstand.
4. After the re-equipment of Oettinger 340 HP were measured. With this achievement the car runs however merciless into the speed limiter. The achievement became in favor of the torque (478NM!) something taken back. With long translated 6. Course are feasible computationally 300 km/h. The cost stands however in no relation to the result.
5. The car is marvelously mobile. Against the statement of the “good travel” the chassis is first cream. For “the travel” of a Sharan Family should remain better property with the tests. Hie have the rule surely more experience. One cannot combine now times 330 HP with nem Touareg chassis.
6. The R32 is a mad car. Should meet their me on the motorway, saves the Sprit for you. Is not worth!! The meeting with a M3 (343 HP) already ended in tears.
7. A word still to the maximum speed: It increased by approx. 15 km/h. Then the car is number of revolutions moderate in the red range and that must be. Much more fun makes itself if one “wegzoomt” of a Drängler simply
8. I would again and again let this measure make, however with some Tunern to experience had that you hold a Chiptuning for this car for being sufficient. Here caution is required!!!! The standard LLK is at its power limit. Load air becomes too warm and the engine regulates down. In any case large LLk take. Everything else fingers away!! You annoy you only.
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By LLK must be talking about intercooler.

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #4 on: 14 September 2007, 15:35 »
lol its like reading something a 4 year old wrote :D

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #5 on: 14 September 2007, 15:45 »
It's basically saying, it will eat M3's for breakfast but watch how much you gun it because the intercooler isn't as good as the one on the S3.

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #6 on: 14 September 2007, 16:04 »
Think it is saying that this one is OK because it does come with an Intercooler, whereas if you choose other Chip tuning companies that don't offer the Intercooler you might be taking a risk.

Not sure about that one, Oettinger just offer a map that is 300+ bhp.. I guess 330 pushes it borderline and requires the intercooler.

Either way sounds pretty good to me, reliable 100hp for £2350 or thereabouts. Interesting about what he says about being a detuned S3 motor with same internals.. don't want to bring up that old debate but..

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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #7 on: 14 September 2007, 16:06 »
fcuk, i thought mine was quick,  :cry:

what power would you get from a Forge Mk5 Golf 2.0T TWINtercooler, seen it on awesome-gti.co.uk


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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #8 on: 14 September 2007, 20:45 »
It says the stage 2 delivers 0-62 in 5.9 seconds :undecided:

Mine is standard and can get 0-60 in 5.66 seconds. Does that mean by tuning it, it will be SLOWER!! :laugh: :grin:
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Re: Oettinger mods for Ed30
« Reply #9 on: 14 September 2007, 21:05 »
By adding 30% more power should be down around the low 5's I'd think!

So what d'yall reckon? Manual or DSG for this?