Jesus H...who gives a monkeys nuts wether you have an 8v or a 16v!!! there aint that much of a difference for me to give a s***t (and yes I have an 8 valver) mayber those of us who have a Mk111 gti 8v have our own forum!! come on.......its not the size that matters, but what you do with it!!......I know some peeps are well passionate about the details, but I really do like the GTI's.....and anyway I'm still pissed at the fact some pikey scum keyed my car.......AAAAAGGGGHHHHH.....apologies in advance......