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Offline workhorse '90 8v

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Timing belt change...
« on: 18 December 2003, 12:50 »
As we have no record of the last belt change on either of our cars
i'm hoping to do the change myself soon.

The Haynes manual doesn't make it look too hard, but there are a
couple of bits i'm not sure about!

Firstly (pages 2C.8 / 2C.9 section 9) paragraph 6 states "turn the
crankshaft sprocket...in the direction of engine rotation"
which way would that be? clockwise/anti-clockwise?

Secondly, paragraph 7 - "Now look through the hole in which the TDC
sensor goes where the timing marks show on the periphery of the
flywheel and note the reading."
You what?!!!!
and why?!!

Also i've heard that you should also renew the tensioner aswell as the belt ?  Is this recomended?

So, any tips would be super appreciated!
Have any of you done a timing belt change at home with the usual
 tools, nothing special?
Is it a b!tch of a job?!

Offline Gozza

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #1 on: 18 December 2003, 13:05 »

If u r having trouble understanding the manual I would not recommend you having a go really because if you do something slightly wrong and then start the car you can bend all the valves in the head and possibly further damage.

If u do decide to do it anyway then I believe you basically have to do the following. Loosen the tension retaining bolts, take belt off, use new belt and put new tensioner on, U need a special tool to get the tension of the belt correct as far as I am aware and it is not as easy as it sounds above I am sure..................well good luck with whatever ya do !! ::)

Offline workhorse '90 8v

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #2 on: 18 December 2003, 13:37 »
I understand the manual fine thanx ;)

I was just querying the fact that looking down the top dead center
sensor hole seems to bare no relevance to the replacement of a
timing belt ?

Or maybe it does?

I need someone out there who has actually replaced a timing belt on a mk2 to let me know..

thanx anyway ;)

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #3 on: 18 December 2003, 14:07 »
an easy bodge way of doing it is, cut the exisiting belt in half all the way round

pull that half off, slide the new belt on - then pull rest of the old belt off and slide the new belt over

Offline Bdub

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #4 on: 18 December 2003, 14:08 »
It is important that the sprokets all remain in EXACT same position they may move when you take the belt off so you need a datum to work from. TDC marks allow you to check.
Personaly I set the cam sproket to TDC ( using the dot on the spocket to line up with the metal tab on the rocker box, and then mark a dot of paint on the crank sprocket and ajdacent teeth on the Aux sprocket.

Don't do it if you are not sure - big SH1t if you get it wrong.

Offline richandhazel

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #5 on: 18 December 2003, 14:18 »
I understand the manual fine thanx ;)

I was just querying the fact that looking down the top dead center
sensor hole seems to bare no relevance to the replacement of a
timing belt ?

Or maybe it does?

I need someone out there who has actually replaced a timing belt on a mk2 to let me know..

thanx anyway ;)

If you get the engine to TDC using the pulley marks, to help verify you are at exactly TDC you can look through  the TDC sensor hole at the flywheel. There are markings on the flywheel that line up with a small arrow head on the gearbox bell housing. I think its just more precise than using the pulley marks.

Offline workhorse '90 8v

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #6 on: 18 December 2003, 14:18 »
Cheers guys!

Bdub - your method is v similar to the Haynes way.

Gambit - your 'bodge' method sounds excellent!

May try the full manual method tho..

I know all you guys are saying if your not sure don't do it,
but there always has to be a first time!
I would consider myself quite confident with the spanners (mechanics)
so I gotta go for it - if it fcks up, it fcks up!

But i'm sure it wont........ ;)

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #7 on: 18 December 2003, 14:22 »
By the way.........the tensioning tool makes life a lot easier, but isn't absolutely necessary.........in the past I have used two 1/8" drills and a large screwdriver.

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #8 on: 18 December 2003, 14:22 »
I like Gambits method 2 - taht sounds absolutely Tw4t proof - probably the one for me in future!!!!

By the way - I struggled to get the bottom pulley off having undone the 4 allen screws - ended up having to borrow a puller as it was well solid on the shaft. apart from this it was fairly easy.

Good luck

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Re:Timing belt change...
« Reply #9 on: 18 December 2003, 14:24 »
Thanx richandhazel

the Haynes manuals are notorious for complicated discriptions and a
serious lack of photos/diagrams

Like with all the jobs i do, a slow methodical approach will see me through..

The last belt i got changed was on a mazda and it cost 120bucks!
so i figure DIY is the way forward (and i enjoy it).