Author Topic: Perhaps a new GTI and question on Discover Nav Pro vs Discover Navigation  (Read 16347 times)

Offline Sootchucker

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Hi all. Shock horror....after my recent thread about Diesel vs Petrol and from the other day, about a friend of mine who's changing his GTI, I went into my own dealership last night, and unbelievably, they made me an absolute cracking offer on a new GTI (this is the dealership I've purchased the last 11 VW's from), am I'm seriously considering it (just working things out in my mind at present - but the wife says OK  :grin:)

Not going to yet talk actual figures (as the spec is still a bit fluid), but it currently equates to around 17.5% off list. This comfortably beats the price I've had from Drive the deal and Orangewheels, and (taking the offers I've had so far) also beating Car Wow. I thought I'd then get reamed on the part ex price on the GTD, but they are offering me a price that gives me considerably more than I was offered back in December (though Car Wow dealers when I was last looking) and thus results in a tidy amount of collateral in the GTD, which they will hold at the same differential as what I owe over the next few months (so depreciating in line with what I owe only), until a new vehicle arrives (which they are quoting around the 16i-18ish week mark for a factory order - does that sound about right ?).

So, I'm now looking at options and i know these are a marmite thing for some people, but I've always specce'd a car to what I want over the next few years rather than worrying about resale cost.I'm pretty much locked in on the options I want (which I'll keep private - for now), but one that's giving me issues is the Discover Navigation (DN) vs Navigation Pro (DNP).

I know it's a lot of money (£1,325.00), but putting cost aside for a moment, as I've always had the Nav Pro's in my MK7's, I'm wondering what I will miss if i stick to the "standard" Nav. From what I can see, these are things that I know of

9.2" Widescreen display vs 8" display (Nav Pro vs Stnd). Reading the specs it looks like the 9.2" is a much higher resolution (1280x 640 vs 800 x 480). How much better and sharper is the screen or is the smaller unit still just fine ?

HDD to store the maps on leaving 2 free SD cards (as I currently have) for music / movies - whereas in the DN unit, one SD car has to have the map SD card in it at all times ?

I've heard that the Google maps feature has been removed completely (even from the £1325 DNP), so what CAR-Net services now distinguish one from the other ?

DNP (if it's like my Gen 2 version) allows you to play movies (which I do quite often whilst waiting for the wife at the train station), does the standard DN unit as well (from SD cards ?)

Do both units still only have 1 USB socket (what if you add the wireless smartphone charging - does that get you another one) ?

I know that only the DNP allows you to mirror the maps onto the Active Info Display and have both up at the same time (i understand that VW are working on a fix for this for the standard NP ?), but is this something that people actually need to have displayed on both units at the same time ?

What about speed of operation and boot up times - are they better for the DNP or about the same as the DN unit ?

If I've missed anything else out please chime in. As I say, please don't let the price or resale value cloud your thoughts, I know it's a fair chuck of money, but I can comfortably afford it, but I just need to understand if I actually do need it ?

I know this all seems a bit hypocritical of me, following on from my big thread last month, but having seen an indium grey GTI in their car park with 19" Brescia alloys and Art Velour interior, I'm really thinking that life's too short and I really want one of those in my life whist I can. I think the MK7 (7.5) will be the swan song of the 2L petrol engined hot hatches, and I fully expect that whilst the MK8 GTI will do doubt be more powerful, I think it will have a smaller engine (maybe 1.5-1.6 liter like their new WRC Polo), with some form of hybrid technology on board, so it could be now or never !

Cheers and thanks.
« Last Edit: 27 February 2018, 13:26 by Sootchucker »
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Offline I wanted a GTi

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Hypocrite  :laugh:
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Go for it, let your heart rule I say.
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Offline ashm1000

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I wasn't aware of DTD when I ordered my GTi a few weeks ago, and reading all the posts I felt silly afterwards as I felt like I'd been "had"

But when I checked it yesterday the DTD price is about £20 cheaper only, further away as well. I got about 16.5% off list from the local dealer, nothing to part-ex mind, didn't even have to negotiate much and a friend who knows more than I do tells me it was a good price.

Offline Eccie

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I'd get the pro - you'll always regret it and in the scheme of things its not a lot of money (if you can afford it) and if you end up keeping the car longer than you anticipate, it'll be money well spent and enjoyed, every day you drive it.

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Offline fredgroves

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My view - the pro is definitely better than basic one but probably not 1325 quid better... unless you use nav every day...
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Offline Arnold_Lane

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My view - the pro is definitely better than basic one but probably not 1325 quid better... unless you use nav every day...

Agreed. Worth an extra £500 tops.
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Offline Steve78

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Not worth the cost. Spend the money on better toys, or upgrading the interior like I did.

Offline andy28

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I knew you weren't "asking for a friend" on the Penny Pinching thread ;-)

Just my 2p worth but I think it must all depend what system we are all coming from. For myself, even the basic nav in the 7.5 was a huge step up from the VW RNS315 that I had previously. But given you have been used to the Pro before, there is a chance you will miss the extra.

You're right that one SD card is used always for maps and whilst you could (presumably) get a double size SD card for your music, you could lose a bit on speed and potentially ease of finding what you want. I don't think movies work on the standard system through the SD card but happy to check later.

I've never felt the need to put the map on both screens. I would prefer the turn by directions on one or use Google Maps/Waze on Android Auto (which I don't think you could have on both screens on either system anyway).

I don't regret not speccing the Pro Nav at all - I think VW made it difficult for me to spec it by putting all their focus on the touchless scrolling which didn't seem to work when I tried it, rather than on the benefits you have set out here - but I guess it's once you've had Pro, will the standard system be good enough.
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Offline Sootchucker

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Ha no seriously I was Andy - he's gone in today and ordered it. But it was talking to him that got me thinking and made me discuss with my dealer.
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