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Offline Mk7 rzy

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Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« on: 06 February 2018, 11:09 »
Hi guys,

I'm hearing a lot of people mention that the PP is must when choosing? I've only recently bought my GTI and it's stock/without the PP. I love every minute of it, especially since I've come from a N/A 1.2 Polo.

What's everyone's thoughts? Do you feel like you missed out without the PP?
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #1 on: 06 February 2018, 11:11 »
No PP. No regrets.
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #2 on: 06 February 2018, 11:12 »
The PP was a no brainer for me in terms of cost because of the upgraded brakes and the VAQ (i.e. "LSD").  It would cost well in excess of £1000 to retrofit these, but that's not to say the non-PP car isn't worthy of the GTI name.
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #3 on: 06 February 2018, 11:17 »
Quote from: GolfTi on 06 February 2018, 11:11
No PP. No regrets.

Good to hear!

Quote from: brettblade on 06 February 2018, 11:12
The PP was a no brainer for me in terms of cost because of the upgraded brakes and the VAQ (i.e. "LSD").  It would cost well in excess of £1000 to retrofit these, but that's not to say the non-PP car isn't worthy of the GTI name.

If I had the option (and funds) to buy new, I would have opted for it also. I asked VW if they could retrofit the performance pack features on, but they said no  :undecided:
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #4 on: 06 February 2018, 11:19 »
If you've never had it, you probably won't miss it.

Much like DCC, its better technically, its definitely something but is it worth 1k? That's a lot of money.

I think the vagueness that you are missing out on a tenth a lap is why people get drawn in.

Without it, you'll still love it.

If you can afford it, why not. Better brakes is a sound idea even if you can't specifically measure the results each day.
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #5 on: 06 February 2018, 11:40 »
Quote from: fredgroves on 06 February 2018, 11:19
If you've never had it, you probably won't miss it.

Much like DCC, its better technically, its definitely something but is it worth 1k? That's a lot of money.

I think the vagueness that you are missing out on a tenth a lap is why people get drawn in.

Without it, you'll still love it.

If you can afford it, why not. Better brakes is a sound idea even if you can't specifically measure the results each day.

Thanks! Feel better about my choice now  :grin:
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #6 on: 06 February 2018, 12:44 »
Quote from: Mk7 rzy on 06 February 2018, 11:09
Hi guys,

I'm hearing a lot of people mention that the PP is must when choosing? I've only recently bought my GTI and it's stock/without the PP. I love every minute of it, especially since I've come from a N/A 1.2 Polo.

What's everyone's thoughts? Do you feel like you missed out without the PP?

I wouldn't worry...the only reason the PP gets the extra power is to offset the extra weight of the "R" brakes & the FDL (VAQ)..

You can retro fit the FDL unit, but it will cost you an arm & a leg & you have to open up the gearbox case....

Think of the PP as all singing & all dancing.....the non PP as more stripped back & "analogue"....

horses for courses...
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #7 on: 06 February 2018, 13:21 »
I have the 2016 Gti built to my spec it's without PP and tbh I think it's a fantastic car as is.. :whistle:
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #8 on: 06 February 2018, 13:47 »
I specced the PP on mine and whilst I don't regret it, it was a luxury. I've not driven a non PP car, but I can guarantee that 99% of the time in normal daily driving (IE, not 'spirited') you'll never notice the difference.

I did (partly) get mine as I knew I was putting aftermarket 19" wheels on and thought the standard brakes might look a bit 'weedy' behind them, but that definitely wasn't the most important factor in my decision... probably!
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Re: Mk 7 GTI non/PP - all hope lost?
« Reply #9 on: 06 February 2018, 13:53 »
Having spent 6 months with a 7.5 without pp and collecting a 7.5 pp on 1st March, I will be able to give a real comparison with long term experience soon!
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