DTUK box or Carbon Chip tuning remap for GTD DSG?

[vwali2010]

interesting talk about this i dont have a DSG however few of my mates have gone for a remap at my local specialists and they remap both the engine ecu and also the gearbox to match. Therefore you dont have the issue of it putting strain on the standard programmed box.

Hi,

Sorry to tell you that without actually removing the gearbox ecu and mapping on the bench with the correct software no autobox or dsg can be remapped via the obd.  I hope your friends have not been lewd in by the "Conbox" that is being imported in from China for about £3 but is being sold as an auto gearbox remap for upwards of £800!  All this box does is load a canbus or signal blocker onto your car which then prevents the gearbox ecu communicating with the engine ecu.  In layman's terms it allows the gearbox to do exactly as it wants without any safe working limits!   So the gearbox will match the full torque limit of the engine giving the impression that the gearbox has been remapped, which it hasn't.  So if the car is remapped then the gearbox will just match the torque output which is extremely dangerous as our dsg boxes are limited to 400NM. 

Pls tell me they never went to either of these?  The conbox is the white box in the picture although there are several on the market in different disguises & colours.

http://www.jfautomotive.co.uk/ecu-remapping/gearbox-tuning/?gclid=CjwKEAjwluetBRD98L639p35p0QSJACC8BlKCRUtLJn_4z_LtQS6cqTzZx11q4DgJGSwPfzmWfI0rBoCdfbw_wcB

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/gearbox-remap-tcu-tuning-dsg-automatic.shtml

hi yes they have the proper software i wouldnt bother posting if it was some micky mouse software from china

Sorry not what I have discovered on my research, I only know as I was almost caught out myself.  So they actually removed the gearbox ecu and bench mapped it or sent it away then?  Believe me there is no access via the obd to the gearbox ecu for remapping.  Not saying it can't be done however not via the obd because if it could be then every mapper in the uk would be doing it

Yes they specifically had to go on courses to learn this.

[Optimus prime]

interesting talk about this i dont have a DSG however few of my mates have gone for a remap at my local specialists and they remap both the engine ecu and also the gearbox to match. Therefore you dont have the issue of it putting strain on the standard programmed box.

Hi,

Sorry to tell you that without actually removing the gearbox ecu and mapping on the bench with the correct software no autobox or dsg can be remapped via the obd.  I hope your friends have not been lewd in by the "Conbox" that is being imported in from China for about £3 but is being sold as an auto gearbox remap for upwards of £800!  All this box does is load a canbus or signal blocker onto your car which then prevents the gearbox ecu communicating with the engine ecu.  In layman's terms it allows the gearbox to do exactly as it wants without any safe working limits!   So the gearbox will match the full torque limit of the engine giving the impression that the gearbox has been remapped, which it hasn't.  So if the car is remapped then the gearbox will just match the torque output which is extremely dangerous as our dsg boxes are limited to 400NM. 

Pls tell me they never went to either of these?  The conbox is the white box in the picture although there are several on the market in different disguises & colours.

http://www.jfautomotive.co.uk/ecu-remapping/gearbox-tuning/?gclid=CjwKEAjwluetBRD98L639p35p0QSJACC8BlKCRUtLJn_4z_LtQS6cqTzZx11q4DgJGSwPfzmWfI0rBoCdfbw_wcB

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/gearbox-remap-tcu-tuning-dsg-automatic.shtml

hi yes they have the proper software i wouldnt bother posting if it was some micky mouse software from china

Sorry not what I have discovered on my research, I only know as I was almost caught out myself.  So they actually removed the gearbox ecu and bench mapped it or sent it away then?  Believe me there is no access via the obd to the gearbox ecu for remapping.  Not saying it can't be done however not via the obd because if it could be then every mapper in the uk would be doing it

Yes they specifically had to go on courses to learn this.

Sorry that doesn't answer my question so was the gearbox ecu actually removed from the car like this and then bench mapped?  If so it must of cost a fortune for very little gains

http://www.ecutesting.com/dsg_gearbox_ecu_removal_instru.html

[Optimus prime]

hmmm.......interesting when challenged the quick replies stop!  Draw your own conclusions

[p3asa]

Maybe he had work or similar to go to!

Just saying 

[Optimus prime]

Maybe he had work or similar to go to!

Just saying 

Oh yes of course silly me.....but I admire your optimism    I have seen enough people suddenly appear on forums to defend a product that actually doesn't work & then disappear when challenged with actual facts or questions

[ChrisGTD]

Hi Optimus prime!

I added a DTUK box to my Manual GTD after it's first service (10,000 miles) and have since done another 11,000 problem free miles with the box on.

I never run the box higher than +1 (I use 3+1 or 1+1 only).

I think either a box or remap could cause clutch slip, as you are putting a lot more torque through the drivetrain - but I've never had any and the DTUK delivery is very smooth. Personally I chose a tuning box as I can remove it for services and I was concerned a remap might cause TD1 flag's which could have a negative impact on warranty issues.

The DTUK box also had loads of great reviews and lots of thorough testing and analysis here, especially by MonkeyHanger.

I don't think there is a right or wrong answer as to which solution is best as it will depend on what you consider a risk or not/your preference. If there are multiple clutch issues reported with Carbon, that's a bit concerning - but you could speak with them to see what circumstances the issues were in (manual/dsg/an older map??)

Either way, I do recommend a box/remap - the GTD was built for it

Great to hear, this, got my car yesterday ordered the DTUK Stage 2 and GTi type Milltek Exhaust, did you try any other settings or just the 3+1?

[Optimus prime]

Guys,

Pls be aware if you buy a DTUK box 2nd hand or from ebay then the warranty does not transfer I checked with them, just friendly info nothing more