DTUK box or Carbon Chip tuning remap for GTD DSG?

[monkeyhanger]

I haven't noticed any dpf's since having the box on, I guess they are happening - just not as often. Had the box off for a service last week and sure enough the fans were running when I stopped the car.

Mpg is about the same, I commuted on the motorway for a few months and was getting 53mpg actual including town driving and some A road blasts.

I use standard diesel, but always Esso - no supermarkets. I'll have to give their premium a go then!!

Not sure the Esso premium is all that unfortunately, Shell or BP is the way to go, BP super has the highest cetane of all the super derv's.  I'm using shell nitro derv at the moment and there is a definite improvement over my normal esso derv.  Only an extra £5 on a fill up so worth the cost just to keep the dpf cleaner as the super fuels obviously burn better / cleaner hence less regens which hit your mpg

Premium Esso diesel? I didn't know there was one, I only see one diesel pump at my local Esso stations. My GTD ran fine on standard Esso or BP, not so good on Shell regular or V-power. V-power is cleaner due to the synthesised content, but it is also less potent (it is about 8% less calorific than regular diesel), so although it has a cleaner burn, it has less go per litre, I regularly saw 4mpg less using V-power. Do yourself a favour and use Esso/Sainsburys (BP is generally pricey around the North East) and stick a shot of Millers Ecomax to boost the Cetane. Buy a 5L can of the stuff and it will add 60p to a tank of fuel, not a fiver like V-power does.

[Optimus prime]

I haven't noticed any dpf's since having the box on, I guess they are happening - just not as often. Had the box off for a service last week and sure enough the fans were running when I stopped the car.

Mpg is about the same, I commuted on the motorway for a few months and was getting 53mpg actual including town driving and some A road blasts.

I use standard diesel, but always Esso - no supermarkets. I'll have to give their premium a go then!!

Not sure the Esso premium is all that unfortunately, Shell or BP is the way to go, BP super has the highest cetane of all the super derv's.  I'm using shell nitro derv at the moment and there is a definite improvement over my normal esso derv.  Only an extra £5 on a fill up so worth the cost just to keep the dpf cleaner as the super fuels obviously burn better / cleaner hence less regens which hit your mpg

Premium Esso diesel? I didn't know there was one, I only see one diesel pump at my local Esso stations. My GTD ran fine on standard Esso or BP, not so good on Shell regular or V-power. V-power is cleaner due to the synthesised content, but it is also less potent (it is about 8% less calorific than regular diesel), so although it has a cleaner burn, it has less go per litre, I regularly saw 4mpg less using V-power. Do yourself a favour and use Esso/Sainsburys (BP is generally pricey around the North East) and stick a shot of Millers Ecomax to boost the Cetane. Buy a 5L can of the stuff and it will add 60p to a tank of fuel, not a fiver like V-power does.

Yep we have premium Essex diesel down here  used to do the whole millers thing with my 535d but got tired of the smell in the boot despite sealing the bottle properly after each fill up.  May go back to the idea but will try bp ultimate first.  My gtd is return 3 mpg extra on v-power over my usual journies.

[Exonian]

As above would be nice to hear both sides of the argument if possible    I have read that the remap has been causing a little clutch type slip in both manual & dsg is this still the case ?

Thanks

The map can be written in a way that the boost won't wreck your clutch if you give it a boot full of 'throttle' in top gear just as the turbo hits max spool. I've had issues with previous TDI maps and even a REVO map on a petrol but revised software sorted this very easily, it just modulates the boost a bit differently.
Does Craig still work for Carbon or is it just Nick now? I've not seen doc on here for ages and ages.

It's six of one and half a dozen of the other really, they both do the same job in moderately different ways.
Bear in mind the box does have a sell on value and I think I'd go that way initially, possibly even picking up a used box that can be sold on again with minimal loss (if any) if it doesn't float your boat. I can't see that it wouldn't though, it brings the car alive.

I think you right & the box is the way forward especially while under warranty,  nothing doing on ebay regarding a secondhand unit for sale unless a forum member is selling?

http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11309&highlight=DTUK+SALE
http://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11238&highlight=DTUK+SALE

[Optimus prime]

@ exonian thanks for the links I have replied to both so lets hope someone replies 

[Optimus prime]

Amazing found 6 DTUK boxes for sale in various places emailed all......no response from anyone 

[Exonian]

Amazing found 6 DTUK boxes for sale in various places emailed all......no response from anyone 

I guess some people are on holiday and others may have sold their cars so don't log into the forums as much so might not get the messages. Maybe I'm being too kind to them?! 

[vwali2010]

interesting talk about this i dont have a DSG however few of my mates have gone for a remap at my local specialists and they remap both the engine ecu and also the gearbox to match. Therefore you dont have the issue of it putting strain on the standard programmed box.

[Optimus prime]

interesting talk about this i dont have a DSG however few of my mates have gone for a remap at my local specialists and they remap both the engine ecu and also the gearbox to match. Therefore you dont have the issue of it putting strain on the standard programmed box.

Hi,

Sorry to tell you that without actually removing the gearbox ecu and mapping on the bench with the correct software no autobox or dsg can be remapped via the obd.  I hope your friends have not been lewd in by the "Conbox" that is being imported in from China for about £3 but is being sold as an auto gearbox remap for upwards of £800!  All this box does is load a canbus or signal blocker onto your car which then prevents the gearbox ecu communicating with the engine ecu.  In layman's terms it allows the gearbox to do exactly as it wants without any safe working limits!   So the gearbox will match the full torque limit of the engine giving the impression that the gearbox has been remapped, which it hasn't.  So if the car is remapped then the gearbox will just match the torque output which is extremely dangerous as our dsg boxes are limited to 400NM. 

Pls tell me they never went to either of these?  The conbox is the white box in the picture although there are several on the market in different disguises & colours.

http://www.jfautomotive.co.uk/ecu-remapping/gearbox-tuning/?gclid=CjwKEAjwluetBRD98L639p35p0QSJACC8BlKCRUtLJn_4z_LtQS6cqTzZx11q4DgJGSwPfzmWfI0rBoCdfbw_wcB

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/gearbox-remap-tcu-tuning-dsg-automatic.shtml

[vwali2010]

interesting talk about this i dont have a DSG however few of my mates have gone for a remap at my local specialists and they remap both the engine ecu and also the gearbox to match. Therefore you dont have the issue of it putting strain on the standard programmed box.

Hi,

Sorry to tell you that without actually removing the gearbox ecu and mapping on the bench with the correct software no autobox or dsg can be remapped via the obd.  I hope your friends have not been lewd in by the "Conbox" that is being imported in from China for about £3 but is being sold as an auto gearbox remap for upwards of £800!  All this box does is load a canbus or signal blocker onto your car which then prevents the gearbox ecu communicating with the engine ecu.  In layman's terms it allows the gearbox to do exactly as it wants without any safe working limits!   So the gearbox will match the full torque limit of the engine giving the impression that the gearbox has been remapped, which it hasn't.  So if the car is remapped then the gearbox will just match the torque output which is extremely dangerous as our dsg boxes are limited to 400NM. 

Pls tell me they never went to either of these?  The conbox is the white box in the picture although there are several on the market in different disguises & colours.

http://www.jfautomotive.co.uk/ecu-remapping/gearbox-tuning/?gclid=CjwKEAjwluetBRD98L639p35p0QSJACC8BlKCRUtLJn_4z_LtQS6cqTzZx11q4DgJGSwPfzmWfI0rBoCdfbw_wcB

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/gearbox-remap-tcu-tuning-dsg-automatic.shtml

hi yes they have the proper software i wouldnt bother posting if it was some micky mouse software from china

[Optimus prime]

interesting talk about this i dont have a DSG however few of my mates have gone for a remap at my local specialists and they remap both the engine ecu and also the gearbox to match. Therefore you dont have the issue of it putting strain on the standard programmed box.

Hi,

Sorry to tell you that without actually removing the gearbox ecu and mapping on the bench with the correct software no autobox or dsg can be remapped via the obd.  I hope your friends have not been lewd in by the "Conbox" that is being imported in from China for about £3 but is being sold as an auto gearbox remap for upwards of £800!  All this box does is load a canbus or signal blocker onto your car which then prevents the gearbox ecu communicating with the engine ecu.  In layman's terms it allows the gearbox to do exactly as it wants without any safe working limits!   So the gearbox will match the full torque limit of the engine giving the impression that the gearbox has been remapped, which it hasn't.  So if the car is remapped then the gearbox will just match the torque output which is extremely dangerous as our dsg boxes are limited to 400NM. 

Pls tell me they never went to either of these?  The conbox is the white box in the picture although there are several on the market in different disguises & colours.

http://www.jfautomotive.co.uk/ecu-remapping/gearbox-tuning/?gclid=CjwKEAjwluetBRD98L639p35p0QSJACC8BlKCRUtLJn_4z_LtQS6cqTzZx11q4DgJGSwPfzmWfI0rBoCdfbw_wcB

http://www.jrtuning.co.uk/gearbox-remap-tcu-tuning-dsg-automatic.shtml

hi yes they have the proper software i wouldnt bother posting if it was some micky mouse software from china

Sorry not what I have discovered on my research, I only know as I was almost caught out myself.  So they actually removed the gearbox ecu and bench mapped it or sent it away then?  Believe me there is no access via the obd to the gearbox ecu for remapping.  Not saying it can't be done however not via the obd because if it could be then every mapper in the uk would be doing it