DTUK box or Carbon Chip tuning remap for GTD DSG?

[Optimus prime]

As above would be nice to hear both sides of the argument if possible    I have read that the remap has been causing a little clutch type slip in both manual & dsg is this still the case ?

Thanks

[ffrank]

Hi Optimus prime!

I added a DTUK box to my Manual GTD after it's first service (10,000 miles) and have since done another 11,000 problem free miles with the box on.

I never run the box higher than +1 (I use 3+1 or 1+1 only).

I think either a box or remap could cause clutch slip, as you are putting a lot more torque through the drivetrain - but I've never had any and the DTUK delivery is very smooth. Personally I chose a tuning box as I can remove it for services and I was concerned a remap might cause TD1 flag's which could have a negative impact on warranty issues.

The DTUK box also had loads of great reviews and lots of thorough testing and analysis here, especially by MonkeyHanger.

I don't think there is a right or wrong answer as to which solution is best as it will depend on what you consider a risk or not/your preference. If there are multiple clutch issues reported with Carbon, that's a bit concerning - but you could speak with them to see what circumstances the issues were in (manual/dsg/an older map??)

Either way, I do recommend a box/remap - the GTD was built for it

[Optimus prime]

Hi Optimus prime!

I added a DTUK box to my Manual GTD after it's first service (10,000 miles) and have since done another 11,000 problem free miles with the box on.

I never run the box higher than +1 (I use 3+1 or 1+1 only).

I think either a box or remap could cause clutch slip, as you are putting a lot more torque through the drivetrain - but I've never had any and the DTUK delivery is very smooth. Personally I chose a tuning box as I can remove it for services and I was concerned a remap might cause TD1 flag's which could have a negative impact on warranty issues.

The DTUK box also had loads of great reviews and lots of thorough testing and analysis here, especially by MonkeyHanger.

I don't think there is a right or wrong answer as to which solution is best as it will depend on what you consider a risk or not/your preference. If there are multiple clutch issues reported with Carbon, that's a bit concerning - but you could speak with them to see what circumstances the issues were in (manual/dsg/an older map??)

Either way, I do recommend a box/remap - the GTD was built for it

Hi,

Thanks for the reply always had mapped cars in the past via the obd but never with anything still under warranty.

How do you find your mpg and dpf regens with the box fitted?  Also do you run normal or super derv?  Mine pulls & runs so much better on the super stuff, never noticed any difference in previous derv's however there is a definite difference in the gtd with the better fuel.

[ffrank]

I haven't noticed any dpf's since having the box on, I guess they are happening - just not as often. Had the box off for a service last week and sure enough the fans were running when I stopped the car.

Mpg is about the same, I commuted on the motorway for a few months and was getting 53mpg actual including town driving and some A road blasts.

I use standard diesel, but always Esso - no supermarkets. I'll have to give their premium a go then!!

[Optimus prime]

I haven't noticed any dpf's since having the box on, I guess they are happening - just not as often. Had the box off for a service last week and sure enough the fans were running when I stopped the car.

Mpg is about the same, I commuted on the motorway for a few months and was getting 53mpg actual including town driving and some A road blasts.

I use standard diesel, but always Esso - no supermarkets. I'll have to give their premium a go then!!

Not sure the Esso premium is all that unfortunately, Shell or BP is the way to go, BP super has the highest cetane of all the super derv's.  I'm using shell nitro derv at the moment and there is a definite improvement over my normal esso derv.  Only an extra £5 on a fill up so worth the cost just to keep the dpf cleaner as the super fuels obviously burn better / cleaner hence less regens which hit your mpg

[KyleB]

I can't comment on the remap but I'm another big fan of the DTUK box. I run mine on 4+2 (it's the older box) and it absolutely pulls.

I get 53mpg pretty regularly, but I do a long commute, it's just as useless on a short journey as a standard car.

I also just run my car on supermarket fuel, tried Shell and BP and Esso in the first few months but consistently got the best MPG with Asda fuel and could feel no difference in the performance so I just fill up at Asda.

[Optimus prime]

I can't comment on the remap but I'm another big fan of the DTUK box. I run mine on 4+2 (it's the older box) and it absolutely pulls.

I get 53mpg pretty regularly, but I do a long commute, it's just as useless on a short journey as a standard car.

I also just run my car on supermarket fuel, tried Shell and BP and Esso in the first few months but consistently got the best MPG with Asda fuel and could feel no difference in the performance so I just fill up at Asda.

Thanks for the info, fuel wise the super stuff burns better so typically you get less soot from a dpf point of view so less regens hence the slight increase in mpg however it is only 2-3 mpg at best.  The engine seems to pull better which would also match the better burn rate.  However my interest is keeping the regens to a min & therefore looking after my dpf with regards to soot loading.  If I wanted to race around I would of kept my Merc E63 V8    Supermarket fuel is fine if you do good miles 12-15+K per year as a passive dpf burn will take place but for anyone doing under 10K a year or shorter trips I would consider the super fuels due to the lesser soot they produce

[Exonian]

As above would be nice to hear both sides of the argument if possible    I have read that the remap has been causing a little clutch type slip in both manual & dsg is this still the case ?

Thanks

The map can be written in a way that the boost won't wreck your clutch if you give it a boot full of 'throttle' in top gear just as the turbo hits max spool. I've had issues with previous TDI maps and even a REVO map on a petrol but revised software sorted this very easily, it just modulates the boost a bit differently.
Does Craig still work for Carbon or is it just Nick now? I've not seen doc on here for ages and ages.

It's six of one and half a dozen of the other really, they both do the same job in moderately different ways.
Bear in mind the box does have a sell on value and I think I'd go that way initially, possibly even picking up a used box that can be sold on again with minimal loss (if any) if it doesn't float your boat. I can't see that it wouldn't though, it brings the car alive.

[Optimus prime]

As above would be nice to hear both sides of the argument if possible    I have read that the remap has been causing a little clutch type slip in both manual & dsg is this still the case ?

Thanks

The map can be written in a way that the boost won't wreck your clutch if you give it a boot full of 'throttle' in top gear just as the turbo hits max spool. I've had issues with previous TDI maps and even a REVO map on a petrol but revised software sorted this very easily, it just modulates the boost a bit differently.
Does Craig still work for Carbon or is it just Nick now? I've not seen doc on here for ages and ages.

It's six of one and half a dozen of the other really, they both do the same job in moderately different ways.
Bear in mind the box does have a sell on value and I think I'd go that way initially, possibly even picking up a used box that can be sold on again with minimal loss (if any) if it doesn't float your boat. I can't see that it wouldn't though, it brings the car alive.

I think you right & the box is the way forward especially while under warranty,  nothing doing on ebay regarding a secondhand unit for sale unless a forum member is selling?

[Exonian]

Check on here, Briskoda and seatcupra.net & I can guarantee you'll find at least one for sale.
Look in the TDI section of the mk7 forum on here too as there's a huge thread and a few members have mentioned theirs are up for sale.