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Offline am1w

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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #10 on: 24 November 2014, 20:23 »
Perhaps the OP should post his excellent comparative review on the 7R Forum. It would be interesting to read the reactions.
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #11 on: 24 November 2014, 20:51 »
At the end of the day, its only my opinion, I had a similar reaction after test driving an M135 when I got back the dealer thought I would get the card out for a deposit but I handed the keys back and said I don't like it..

Thankfully everyone is entitled to their view and not everyone likes the same thing.  I have a general gripe about how expensive 4 cyl hatches are becoming to be honest, especially new and the gti is no different to the R in This respect.  I wonder how much of the decision making is driven by monthly pcp quotes and a certain amount of top trumps discussions on 0-60 times.. 

Before my TT I ran a 135i coupe with 306 bhp and a pretty good 0-60 but to be honest the diesel TT is just as quick in 70-80 % of the road conditions I ever encounter.

Ifi look at a new gti, or R or an other modern hot hatch I seem to find myself looking at things like a mk5 R32 for £10k and asking, is a mk 7 R really £25k better ? 

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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #12 on: 24 November 2014, 21:12 »
Perhaps the OP should post his excellent comparative review on the 7R Forum. It would be interesting to read the reactions.

He would be burned at the stake....Not the friendliest of places. There are around 5 "Mafia" members there whose job it is to haze new members.  :grin:
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #13 on: 24 November 2014, 21:59 »
Perhaps the OP should post his excellent comparative review on the 7R Forum. It would be interesting to read the reactions.
He would be burned at the stake....Not the friendliest of places. There are around 5 "Mafia" members there whose job it is to haze new members.  :grin:

Yes, it is one tough forum.

But then there is also the ill mannered and childish RobS23GTI on this thread who finds being abusive cathartic.

Am1w - your posting style seems very similar to someone who got themselves banned from the baby bmw forum for being a bit of a pillock. Maybe its just coincidence!
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #14 on: 24 November 2014, 22:08 »
Lets not become one of those places...... :whistle:
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #15 on: 24 November 2014, 22:10 »
Lets not become one of those places...... :whistle:

Anyway, probably smarting that he bought the wrong car!  :evil:
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #16 on: 24 November 2014, 22:22 »
Just making an observation which you didn't refute, so I can't be far off. Didn't take you long to get banned on baby bmw after getting a lot of members backs up.

GTI and R are both great in their own way. As mentioned, I changed my order from an R...
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #17 on: 24 November 2014, 22:36 »
Just making an observation which you didn't refute, so I can't be far off. Didn't take you long to get banned on baby bmw after getting a lot of members backs up.
GTI and R are both great in their own way. As mentioned, I changed my order from an R...

Wrong. Never had a baby BMW and not familiar with that forum. Anyway, take a chill pill and enjoy your 2W FWD 7GTI.
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #18 on: 25 November 2014, 11:24 »
Nice write up!  Having owned a GTI PP (total 19,000 miles) and now an R (total nearly 2,000) miles, I would disagree with some of your points - however, there's no point as its all down to personal preference - otherwise we'd all be driving the same car and the roads would be a very dull place to be!!

Enjoy your GTI PP - it's a great car and I had the most fun in mine!
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Re: Golf R and Gti PP back to back test drive
« Reply #19 on: 25 November 2014, 15:38 »
I think that as a whole the MK7 feels a bit sterile. It is much faster than it feels, maybe it is too polished for me, but i've been VW fan for a very long time, jump from MK6 to MK7 has seen by far the biggest refinement jump between the MKs.

I had far more fun with my 170TDI Scirocco than I have with my MK7 GTD. I have chased the R because it's genuinely rapid, I might get a better sense of performance despite the polished edges.

I have to disagree about the need to spec an R up highly vs a GTI. Is £27k really the threshold beyond which expensive options like 19" wheels, Satnav and leather become essential? The R has everything I want as standard (as did the GTD), An R is still a Golf, I don't need it to feel like a £45k car. To some the GTD and GTI Tartan do not appeal, some get leather purely to not have the Tartan, just as some may not like the R seats. The seats in all 3 performance Golfs let down the interior IMO, the MK6 set had nicer looking seats.


Think the best point made here, that continually gets overlooked, is that you are going a lot quicker than the car makes it feel.

Even in my lowly GTD to the discussion or R vs GTI you can look down and find yourself way past where think are speed wise and have to reel it in quite quickly.

My previous 170BHP was flat and steady and then boom as pressed the accellerator.

The MK7 does the same but without all the notable grunt and thrust in doing so and to some expecting that in a performance hatchback it can be quite hard to see past.

With the DCC and DSG the ride is cossetted and smooth but with no less pace and its something come to admire and really like now adjusted to the car.

Have been in a vanilla GTI and experience was pretty much the same and so imagine R even with its added BHP is still going to be pretty refined and something you will have to adjust to.