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Offline CraigW

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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #30 on: 22 September 2013, 18:03 »
Guys,

Just been out to mine. I've found these under the front shocks rubber boot on both sides. Are these supposed to be there (bump stops), or should they have been removed ?

If it makes any difference, mine has DCC and isn't making any noises, it's just that this thread has me thinking now  :grin:


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I wouldn't remove them without knowing for sure if they are supposed to be there or not. The blue blocks are a different matter. It's either poor communication from VW to their dealerships re the full PDI process or it's just plain incompetence from the dealership themselves. Are they likely to go any damage to the car if they are are left in long term ?

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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #31 on: 22 September 2013, 18:14 »
Worst case looks like it would shag the shocks - those shocks having a shorter, severe end of travel. Wondering if these sliding up and down the shock piston could be the source of my rubbery squeak. Going to have a look.
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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #32 on: 22 September 2013, 18:14 »
Well, just lifting the car up and they pretty much fell out once the boot was lifted. Surely they are not supposed to be there ?


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Going to check the part number out on ETKA to see how it describes them - 5Q0 412 117

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Just checked ETKA and my mk7 workshop manuals and no sign of these anywhere. Don't appear at all on the exploded view of the suspension.
« Last Edit: 22 September 2013, 18:36 by Norbreck21a »
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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #33 on: 22 September 2013, 18:37 »
That has to be a part to remove at PDI surely!?... can I check if mine has them or do you need to jack it up to do so?

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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #34 on: 22 September 2013, 18:39 »
You need to jack the car up! Look what I found:



PS I went out for a drive hoping my car would be better oh no its much worse when doing slow manoeuvres. On the plus side the ride is now even better than before!
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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #35 on: 22 September 2013, 18:51 »
I found some blue ones on the front too. I have a single one in each of the rears (felt around the flexible rubber part at the top of the plastic sheath), but the sheaths on the rear shocks seem to pull down after snipping the cable tie that secures them up. I don't have any cable ties to tie them back up so i'm leaving the blocks in until I return from my hols.



Is this the way VW makes sports suspension - by hoying some of these pucks in?  :grin:

Norbreck - where did your pink ones come from, front or back? If it's front, maybe you should have a feel around for some blue ones in there too (maybe they are above where the blue ones were).
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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #36 on: 22 September 2013, 18:53 »
Yep, it's definitive. Luckily I had downloaded the Golf 7 Maintenence manual from the Erwin website, and on page 92 guess what....

Removing blocking pieces on piston rod
– Relieve weight on coil springs by raising vehicle with a hoist.

– Slide suspension strut protective sleeve -arrow- upwards.
– Push visible blocking piece -arrow- off piston rod.
– Slightly press in bellows to sense the remaining blocking pieces. Slide them downwards on piston rod towards shock absorber cap using the folds of the bellows.
– Push remaining blocking pieces off piston rod.

WARNING
On the front axle 3 blocking pieces are installed on each side.

Slide suspension strut protective sleeve -arrow- upwards.

On the front axle 3 blocking pieces are installed on each side

Push visible blocking piece -arrow- off piston rod

Slightly press in bellows to sense the remaining blocking pieces. Slide them downwards on piston rod towards shock absorber cap using the folds of the bellows

Push remaining blocking pieces off piston rod.

And the photo they publish is these blocks, so deffo remove them guys.
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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #37 on: 22 September 2013, 18:55 »
My blue one come from the front. I didnt check the rear springs should they be there to. This is a bloody joke...


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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #38 on: 22 September 2013, 18:55 »
Gonna need some cable ties for the rears if you don't ask the dealership to do them.

Mcmaddy: Let Mick know to be on the lookout to remove all of yours!
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Re: Steering Rack / Suspension Squeak
« Reply #39 on: 22 September 2013, 18:57 »
My blue one come from the front. I didnt check the rear springs should they be there to. This is a bloody joke...

Definitely felt one in each of the rears, need to get those cable ties or get to the garage.
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